Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
I've mentioned this before but my tantra guru told me not to eat beef about a month after my initiation. He said it would ruin my meditations. He was a little late as I had already eaten beef at a couple meals. And no my meditation was not effected. Maybe some Indians didn't develop the enzymes to eat beef but then they eat heavier meat like lamb. When we went to a talk by Dr. Robert Svoboda in San Francisco my guru got hungry and I happened to have a couple of Atkins bars, the tasty pina colada ones so I gave him one. He said it sat in his stomach like a rock but it was mainly whey protein. Animal protein can be very strengthening and restore endurance quickly. Probably why there is all this lore about taking on an animals powers if you eat one. I could spend a week being very nutritionally correct but by the end of that week feeling off go have a cheeseburger and fries and feel good again. The principal tastes that Americans favor is salty, sweet and unctuous (fat). Or as Deepak Chopra says vata balancing tastes. Go figure. Many of the TM folks I knew in the mid 1970s had bouts of hypoglycemia. They cured it by eating meat again even if it was just poultry and fish. On 04/15/2013 04:39 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should you be so surprised? I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering
Well, I guess I am ignorant of Indian life and just imagined that the Hindus would never allow killing of cows for any reason - that picture has certainly been promoted in various documentaries on India that are produced here in the US and England. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should you be so surprised? I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you
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Obviously I dunno if this is accurate, but I found it on one web site: According to Vedic texts, cattle was regularly eaten in India during the early, middle and late Vedic periods. According to historian Om Prakash, author Food and Drinks in Ancient India , oxen and barren cows were offered at rituals and eaten by priests; cows were eaten at marriage feasts; slaughterhouses existed; and the flesh of horses, rams, buffalo and probably birds were all eaten. In the later Vedic period, he wrote, oxen, big goats, and sterile cows were slaughtered and cows, sheep, goats and horses were offered as sacrifices. The Ramayana and the Mahabharata have references to beef eating. There is also plenty of evidence—cattle bones with human teeth marks— from archeological digs. One religious text referred to beef as “the best kind of food” and quoted a 6th century B.C. Hindu sage as saying, “Some people do not eat cow meat. I do so, provided it’s tender.” The Mahabharata describes one king who was famous for slaughtering 2,000 cows a day and distributing meat and grain to Brahmin priests. In 2002, Dwijendra Narayan Jha, a historian at the University of Delhi, caused a big uproar when he asserted in his scholarly work, Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions that ancient Hindus ate beef. After excerpts were released on the Internet and published in an Indian newspaper, his work was called “sheer blasphemy” by the World Hindu Council, copies were burned in front of his house, his publishers stopped printing the book and Jha had to be taken to work under the protection of police. Academics were surprised by the brouhaha. They saw the work as a simple historical survey that rehashed material that scholars had known for centuries. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should you be so surprised? I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though
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No worried, it's life - say you are a poor farmer the choice could be between starving and selling the cow. Or one could be greedy or calculative. On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I guess I am ignorant of Indian life and just imagined that the Hindus would never allow killing of cows for any reason - that picture has certainly been promoted in various documentaries on India that are produced here in the US and England. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should you be so surprised? I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was both hilarious and shocking at the same time. On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote
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Interesting, I don't see why any of this could not be accurate. Anyway eating beef is not an issue for me - my big concerns are the factory farming and the inhumane treatment of animals while alive and inhumane methods of slaughter. I used to be a member of PETA when I was in Seattle - I buy Organic and free range just to do my part. On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Obviously I dunno if this is accurate, but I found it on one web site: According to Vedic texts, cattle was regularly eaten in India during the early, middle and late Vedic periods. According to historian Om Prakash, author Food and Drinks in Ancient India , oxen and barren cows were offered at rituals and eaten by priests; cows were eaten at marriage feasts; slaughterhouses existed; and the flesh of horses, rams, buffalo and probably birds were all eaten. In the later Vedic period, he wrote, oxen, big goats, and sterile cows were slaughtered and cows, sheep, goats and horses were offered as sacrifices. The Ramayana and the Mahabharata have references to beef eating. There is also plenty of evidence—cattle bones with human teeth marks— from archeological digs. One religious text referred to beef as “the best kind of food” and quoted a 6th century B.C. Hindu sage as saying, “Some people do not eat cow meat. I do so, provided it’s tender.” The Mahabharata describes one king who was famous for slaughtering 2,000 cows a day and distributing meat and grain to Brahmin priests. In 2002, Dwijendra Narayan Jha, a historian at the University of Delhi, caused a big uproar when he asserted in his scholarly work, Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions that ancient Hindus ate beef. After excerpts were released on the Internet and published in an Indian newspaper, his work was called “sheer blasphemy” by the World Hindu Council, copies were burned in front of his house, his publishers stopped printing the book and Jha had to be taken to work under the protection of police. Academics were surprised by the brouhaha. They saw the work as a simple historical survey that rehashed material that scholars had known for centuries. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should you be so surprised? I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine interpretation of saris. Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing to do in front of or near any Hindus. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
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Do you know a guy named Mike Brazell - he's from SC and was a big PETA guy for a few years. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Interesting, I don't see why any of this could not be accurate. Anyway eating beef is not an issue for me - my big concerns are the factory farming and the inhumane treatment of animals while alive and inhumane methods of slaughter. I used to be a member of PETA when I was in Seattle - I buy Organic and free range just to do my part. On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Obviously I dunno if this is accurate, but I found it on one web site: According to Vedic texts, cattle was regularly eaten in India during the early, middle and late Vedic periods. According to historian Om Prakash, author Food and Drinks in Ancient India , oxen and barren cows were offered at rituals and eaten by priests; cows were eaten at marriage feasts; slaughterhouses existed; and the flesh of horses, rams, buffalo and probably birds were all eaten. In the later Vedic period, he wrote, oxen, big goats, and sterile cows were slaughtered and cows, sheep, goats and horses were offered as sacrifices. The Ramayana and the Mahabharata have references to beef eating. There is also plenty of evidence—cattle bones with human teeth marks— from archeological digs. One religious text referred to beef as “the best kind of food” and quoted a 6th century B.C. Hindu sage as saying, “Some people do not eat cow meat. I do so, provided it’s tender.” The Mahabharata describes one king who was famous for slaughtering 2,000 cows a day and distributing meat and grain to Brahmin priests. In 2002, Dwijendra Narayan Jha, a historian at the University of Delhi, caused a big uproar when he asserted in his scholarly work, Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions that ancient Hindus ate beef. After excerpts were released on the Internet and published in an Indian newspaper, his work was called “sheer blasphemy” by the World Hindu Council, copies were burned in front of his house, his publishers stopped printing the book and Jha had to be taken to work under the protection of police. Academics were surprised by the brouhaha. They saw the work as a simple historical survey that rehashed material that scholars had known for centuries. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should you be so surprised? I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in various meditation guru movements like
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No - I used to just donate money to them and of course watch all those hot women model for them :-) On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Do you know a guy named Mike Brazell - he's from SC and was a big PETA guy for a few years. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2013 10:41 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Interesting, I don't see why any of this could not be accurate. Anyway eating beef is not an issue for me - my big concerns are the factory farming and the inhumane treatment of animals while alive and inhumane methods of slaughter. I used to be a member of PETA when I was in Seattle - I buy Organic and free range just to do my part. On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Obviously I dunno if this is accurate, but I found it on one web site: According to Vedic texts, cattle was regularly eaten in India during the early, middle and late Vedic periods. According to historian Om Prakash, author * Food and Drinks in Ancient India *, oxen and barren cows were offered at rituals and eaten by priests; cows were eaten at marriage feasts; slaughterhouses existed; and the flesh of horses, rams, buffalo and probably birds were all eaten. In the later Vedic period, he wrote, oxen, big goats, and sterile cows were slaughtered and cows, sheep, goats and horses were offered as sacrifices. The Ramayana and the Mahabharata have references to beef eating. There is also plenty of evidence—cattle bones with human teeth marks— from archeological digs. One religious text referred to beef as “the best kind of food” and quoted a 6th century B.C. Hindu sage as saying, “Some people do not eat cow meat. I do so, provided it’s tender.” The Mahabharata describes one king who was famous for slaughtering 2,000 cows a day and distributing meat and grain to Brahmin priests. In 2002, Dwijendra Narayan Jha, a historian at the University of Delhi, caused a big uproar when he asserted in his scholarly work, * Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions * that ancient Hindus ate beef. After excerpts were released on the Internet and published in an Indian newspaper, his work was called “sheer blasphemy” by the World Hindu Council, copies were burned in front of his house, his publishers stopped printing the book and Jha had to be taken to work under the protection of police. Academics were surprised by the brouhaha. They saw the work as a simple historical survey that rehashed material that scholars had known for centuries. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2013 10:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should you be so surprised? I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they would sell their cows to be slaughtered. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso
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On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these LOL How 'bout do you understand biochemical individuality? Or why do you look like a Seventh Day Adventist? Or do you want to go lift some weights with me?
