Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him?.)('samhita/impersonal')

2006-08-03 Thread Peter


--- purushaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>  My conclusion: levitation is a Siddhi which may or
> may not occur in 
> conjunction with BC; and additional research should
> be undertaken 
> (preferably through one's own experience); to
> ascertain the precise 
> causations behind levitation: so that one can either
> keep the 
> spectacle a secret or package and market it, thus
> getting rich.

1000 more lifetimes for you, Grasshopper.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-02 Thread Peter
Not only is it hot where I am -but then again it's
almost always hot here- but there's a a hurricain
acomin'! YeeHaw!!

--- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Just keep that fan Vastu right, pointed right at ya!
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > You've got the life up there man!
> > > 
> > It's only 100 degrees. (but my house does point
> the RIGHT way VB :-) )
> > 
> > JohnY
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "jyouells2000" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "curtisdeltablues"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  That's why I said it was more than I
> expected. Maybe they'll
> get to
> > > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like
> timeshare sales 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > JohnY
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hey John,
> > > > > 
> > > > > The whole setup is a marker's dream.  Put
> MMY on the tube for
> a few
> > > > > hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a
> long program, and
> > then lay
> > > > > some product offers on them!  The course is
> the loss leader. 
> Other
> > > > > then herding them in with fear and guilt, it
> is pretty much
> > timeshare
> > > > > marketing 101, you nailed it!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake
> and Big Boulder ski
> > > > > resort.  What a beautiful area.  Now that I
> am back in the
> > smoldering
> > > > > furnace of DC again I really miss those cool
> mountains.
> > > > >  
> > > > Call me cynical, but I'll bet the courses turn
> a profit ...(don't
> > > > forget the donors). No problem with the
> profit, it's the dishonesty
> > > > that's the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > JohnY
> > > > PS Was up at Camelback Waterpark last
> Sunday :-)
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "jyouells2000" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "sparaig" 
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "jyouells2000"
> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "Robert Gimbel"
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"
> > > >  
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were
> doing other
> stuff.  And
> > > > > seeing 
> > > > > > > > > as how 
> > > > > > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out
> for that, how likely
> > > is it
> > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > > they'd 
> > > > > > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not
> that there'd even be
> > that
> > > > > many 
> > > > > > > > > willing 
> > > > > > > > > > > to go.)
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Sal
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi
> would be open about it?
> > > > Why even
> > > > > > > > > > bother to ask? 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > JohnY 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his
> answer;
> > > > > > > > > If you never ask, you'll never
> know...
> > > > > > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in:
> "Action is always
> > > > superior to 
> > > > > > > > > inaction", because at least you get
> an answer...
> > > > > > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some
> 'Heavy Dudes', in
> India?
> > > > > > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat
> Wala Baba?
> > > > > > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in
> the Dome?
> > > > > > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if
> someone would only ask...
> > > > > > > > > That has been the problem; there
> have been such
> controlling;
> > > > > > > > > People around Maharishi, that they
> intimidate;
> > > > > > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly
> relevant question:
> > > > > > > > > Very Sad!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs
> speak to both
> Maharishi's
> > > > > and the
> > > > > > > > TMO's openness. That's why the
> participation is as it is.
> > 27,000
> > > > > > > > siddha's ... less than 2000
> participating. That's actually
> > more
> > > > > than I
> > > > > > > > expected
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > JohnY
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics
> go to see the Pope?
> > Not 6
> > > > > > percent, I'll bet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I
> expected. Maybe they'll
> > get to
> > > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like
> timeshare sales 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > JohnY
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)

2006-08-02 Thread Vaj


On Aug 2, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Robert Gimbel wrote:The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of God.  The actual words for "Holy Spirit' in Aramaic/Hebrew is Ruach   HaKodesh and it is a form of shakti which makes prophecy possible.  In   tantric terms it would be the downward descent of shakti once   kundalini reaches the crown chakra. This mystery is also concealed  in   the shape of the Hebrew letter Shin, which looks like a downward   moving dove.  Well, that image makes total sense, and goes along with the prayer of  Jesus: 'Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy Name, Thy Kingdom  come, Thy Will be done, on earth, as it is in Heaven... Give us this day, our daily bread, and forgive our tresspasses, as we  forgive those that trespass against us; And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil; For thine is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, forever, and ever, Amen. So, it's bringing Heaven from above, opening the crown chakra; And bringing the energy of the Holy Spirit, down into the earth... Om Shri Shakti Namah Om Shri Shivaiyam Namah Om Also the "secret" name of Jesus, which is IHVH with "Shin (Sh)" in the middle:IHShVH or Yeheshuah, the Holy Spirit descending into the Four Worlds (of IHVH), HaShem becomes "flesh", and each one of us hopefully.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)

2006-08-02 Thread Vaj


On Aug 2, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Peter wrote:  --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet.   If the Pope was offering an non-denominational technique to  experience the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of people would I  mean  'er 'um, ah, never mind  :)  JohnY  Hey JohnY, What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be to the Catholics? I thought it was all about the personal aspect of God. Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of the crucifixion. I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to entertain, such, A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God. That would put the 'Control', of the Universe; Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch; And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure. No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this concept at all. By the way, how's the pizza up there ?  R.G.  The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of God. The actual words for "Holy Spirit' in Aramaic/Hebrew is Ruach HaKodesh and it is a form of shakti which makes prophecy possible. In tantric terms it would be the downward descent of shakti once kundalini reaches the crown chakra. This mystery is also concealed in the shape of the Hebrew letter Shin, which looks like a downward moving dove.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)

2006-08-02 Thread Peter


--- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to
> see the Pope? Not 6
> > percent, I'll bet.
> > >
> > 
> > If the Pope was offering an non-denominational
> technique to 
> experience
> > the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of
> people would I 
> mean
> >  'er 'um, ah, never mind  :)
> > 
> > JohnY
> 
> Hey JohnY,
> What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be
> to the Catholics?
> I thought it was all about the personal aspect of
> God.
> Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of
> the crucifixion.
> I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to
> entertain, such,
> A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God.
> That would put the 'Control', of the Universe;
> Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch;
> And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure.
> No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this
> concept at all.
> By the way, how's the pizza up there ?
> 
> R.G.

The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of
God.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-02 Thread Vaj


On Aug 2, 2006, at 3:03 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Re: Ask MMY  Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   sparaig  Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:11 pm (PST)  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1"  wrote:  How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question  about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in  participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the  courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield  not in the dome.   Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually  every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that  anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well.  Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them  without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it.   I think you actually believe your own bullshit.  What techniques tha t are detrimental are you referring to? And what research do you have to back up your claims.? Thruout India I have sat with various gurus  who extolled the virtues of sadhana but never mentioned TM. Even at Jyotir Math the shankaracharya's right hand man, Ramananda Saraswati, told me his main sadhana was japa, not TM. Just because you write it , does not make it so. You should take a lie detector test. After reading a number of your posts I believe you will make up anything to justify your point of view and have a great need to be right, truth be damned. Get some help man, for God's sake.  And MMY revived TM in its pure form, so Nyah. And apparently so did the thousands of other people who always taught it in it's pure (and fuller) form.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-02 Thread Vaj


On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question  about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in  participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the  courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield  not  in the dome.Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually  every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that  anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. Like brainwashing you?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
I believe that.  While I have never "been around him" in the sense that it was just a few people including myself in the room with him, the times I have seen him, mostly on the TOU course here and the first Holland course, a total of maybe a dozen times, he looked pretty removed and didn't say a word any of those times.

Sal


On Aug 1, 2006, at 4:16 PM, geezerfreak wrote:

Do you really believe that MMY is unaware of what goes on around him?
I notice that many here use that one as an excuse for whatever the
weirdness of the day is. It's been a few years, but I've been around
him. He knows and is in complete control.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
But I would think the fact that they are even *in* the dome would indicate that someone wouldn't have the guts to ask even a mildly confrontational question...right?  Because the minute they do...boom!...out on their ass.

Sal


On Aug 1, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote:
 > 
 > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the 
 > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in 
 > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings 
 > > in participants lives

 > whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined:
 >
 > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff.  
 >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out 
 >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the 
 >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing 
 >to go.)
 > 
 > Sal
 > 

 And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by
 numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an
 impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation".
 Uns.

He’s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. As far as I know, the questions aren’t screened. Anyone with the guts to do so could ask him such a question.  __

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-01 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY





on 8/1/06 8:57 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you saying MMY ought to get out more? 
I once heard a tale of him turning up unexpectedly in a black cab at 
one of the movement properties in the middle of the English 
countryside, apparently it really threw everyone.

One time he was traveling with Vesey in the UK and he showed up unexpectedly at Mrs. Gill’s, an old founder of the movement. He had Vesey hide in the bushes so it was just MMY on the doorstep.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-01 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY





on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote:
> 
> > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the 
> > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in 
> > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings 
> > in participants lives

> whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined:
>
> But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff.  
>And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out 
>for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the 
>rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing 
>to go.)
> 
> Sal
> 

And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by
numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an
impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation".
Uns.

He’s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. As far as I know, the questions aren’t screened. Anyone with the guts to do so could ask him such a question.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
Either that or focused on his own health problems.

Sal

On Aug 1, 2006, at 1:09 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most 
here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which 
was what I was trying to say.

Sal

I just don't think he would be candid in a public forum. So focused on
the 'big' picture that there are no new meditators or new siddha's (to
speak of) anymore. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY

2006-08-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which was what I was trying to say.

Sal


On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:29 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff.  And seeing as how 
someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd 
be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing 
to go.)

Sal


How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even
bother to ask?