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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The first Dr. Who I ever saw was the fourth,Tom Baker - he is still Dr. Who to me, tho my daughter is a Matt Smith David Tennant fan big time - she's not too keen on Peter Capaldi though, who I think did a better job as Cardinal Richelieu in The Musketeers (which I like) than he does as the twelfth Dr. Fond memories of Jon Pertwee and dim recollections of Patrick Troughton (though I did carry his shopping to his car when I was a trolley boy at the local supermarket) I often look up my favourite stories of theirs on the net when I feel the nostalgia pangs. But Tom Baker was my favourite, I met him once too. It was like meeting god to an 8 year old. Better actually. I've still got my signed copy of The curse of Peladon somewhere, that's probably worth a penny or two to someone... Good thing Bucky isn't around as he would consider this entire line of posting to be an insult in the face of FFL. Good, I see the Texas troll has resurfaced to make up for it though. Hopefully he'll be moderated back to the peak before he can drag anyone down to his level. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not having been raised in Scorpion land, I never had the advantage of being raised on Dr. Who, so for a 10 year old kid who lusted after comics and science fiction, the original ST was like a bowl full of greasy hamburger to a starving dog. The only other sci fi stuff on at that time was Lost in Space which I also watched but even as a 10 year old, I knew it was pretty lame. I was one miserable kid if my parents couldn't get us home in time on a Saturday night for Dr Who. Wherever we were I'd get well stressed if I missed finding out how the Dr escaped from whatever cliff hanger he was in. That show helped defined my early life and gave me endless nightmares. Sometimes I wish I'd never seen the old shows again as my memories were rather more impressive in a lot of ways, funny how youthful wonderment can paper over the cracks in the scripts, and the sets. Some of them stood the test of time though, I wish the old writers were given a story each for the new series because none of those have impressed me even slightly. I liked lost in space when I was 5 because of the robot but other than that we had loads on TV, not just Star Trek but the BBC was always making little series for kids with doomy sci-fi themes. Then we had Blakes 7, known affectionately as the fifteen pound Star Trek. Good stories though whoch is what it's all about. Milton Berle show and Ed Sullivan, Gunsmoke and Gilligan's Island were the other types of offerings at that time. I remember being absolutely blown away every time the Star Trek theme music wafted forth from our old black and white tv we had at that time. Even my Old Man who generally didn't watch anything but westerns and war movies watched it with the rest of the family. It was aces! From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes
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The first Dr. Who I ever saw was the fourth,Tom Baker - he is still Dr. Who to me, tho my daughter is a Matt Smith David Tennant fan big time - she's not too keen on Peter Capaldi though, who I think did a better job as Cardinal Richelieu in The Musketeers (which I like) than he does as the twelfth Dr. Good thing Bucky isn't around as he would consider this entire line of posting to be an insult in the face of FFL. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not having been raised in Scorpion land, I never had the advantage of being raised on Dr. Who, so for a 10 year old kid who lusted after comics and science fiction, the original ST was like a bowl full of greasy hamburger to a starving dog. The only other sci fi stuff on at that time was Lost in Space which I also watched but even as a 10 year old, I knew it was pretty lame. I was one miserable kid if my parents couldn't get us home in time on a Saturday night for Dr Who. Wherever we were I'd get well stressed if I missed finding out how the Dr escaped from whatever cliff hanger he was in. That show helped defined my early life and gave me endless nightmares. Sometimes I wish I'd never seen the old shows again as my memories were rather more impressive in a lot of ways, funny how youthful wonderment can paper over the cracks in the scripts, and the sets. Some of them stood the test of time though, I wish the old writers were given a story each for the new series because none of those have impressed me even slightly. I liked lost in space when I was 5 because of the robot but other than that we had loads on TV, not just Star Trek but the BBC was always making little series for kids with doomy sci-fi themes. Then we had Blakes 7, known affectionately as the fifteen pound Star Trek. Good stories though whoch is what it's all about. Milton Berle show and Ed Sullivan, Gunsmoke and Gilligan's Island were the other types of offerings at that time. I remember being absolutely blown away every time the Star Trek theme music wafted forth from our old black and white tv we had at that time. Even my Old Man who generally didn't watch anything but westerns and war movies watched it with the rest of the family. It was aces! From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of for
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According to Campbell Thomas, sitting watching wrestling on TV while drinking beer, increases bodily mass. Quantum Entanglement seems to show that a pair of particles at great distance from each other are somehow instantly connected. It may not be that information is being transmitted however, just there is a connexion that we do not understand. Quantum entanglement cannot transmit classical information (for example the information contained in a thought such as, 'I am eating a tuna fish sandwich'). There is no way known that can transmit what we would call ordinary information at speeds faster than light. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, According to Tom Campbell, all of us can have an immediate access to the cosmic data bank or the akashic records to find out about our past lives and to perform remote viewing through our human consciousness. As such, we can assume that communication with ETs within the galaxy and beyond can be done instantaneously through the cosmic data bank. Is Tom Campbell even remotely trouble that nobody actually CAN access this mythical cosmic data bank? Doesn't that teeny inconvenient fact speak volumes about the veracity of his theory? It's certainly never bothered JR about any of his theories. :-) If we consider consciousness as a form of data bits that pervade the entire universe, then the communication must be faster than light since we are already connected with everything through consciousness in the universe which acts and behave like a virtual reality. Even if consciousness - or anything - consisted of data bits that pervaded the universe any information passed would happen no faster than the speed of light. Information is classed as when you can tell one bit of the universe from another distinctly, a defining feature of the quantum foam is that you can't. He probably got this idea from experiments that allegedly show that pairs of quantum particles separated from each other can both be altered instantaneously no matter how far apart they are by simply altering one of them. There are many possible explanations for this even assuming the results were correct to start with. There is no possibility of them working with anything approaching information unless he thinks we are some sort of cosmic quantum computer that can encode thoughts using the fundamental level of nature. If it was true we could already do it. I think that what JR is postulating is that if two people on different sides of the planet are impressed by the same dumb idea at the same time and react by saying "Wow" at exactly the same time, their minds must be in instantaneous communication. The ancient sage Lao-tzu once commented on this phenomenon in his book the "Duh! Te Ching." :-) But we can't. Or I can't and I don't know of anyone else who can, and the theory is stupid anyway, who says that quantum bits are consciousness? The only time you hear it is from amiable flakes on the new age lecture circuit or cynical money grubbers like John Hagelin as they try and fleece the pre-brainwashed flocks of Marshy and Chopra. Why does this meme persist? Obviously it's a hang over from the early days of QP when they had something they couldn't explain and left the door vaguely open for all sorts of nonsense to creep in. It's the equivalent of religion for our computer age I think, wild promises of life after death and magical powers and it's based in the way of ooking at the world we learned at school. It's science! Perfect! The trouble is there is more to science than just coming up with wild ideas about what might be possible. You also have to demonstrate that it is possible. Have a read of this: http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Quantum/QuantumConsciousness.pdf http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Quantum/QuantumConsciousness.pdf ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our kn
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not having been raised in Scorpion land, I never had the advantage of being raised on Dr. Who, so for a 10 year old kid who lusted after comics and science fiction, the original ST was like a bowl full of greasy hamburger to a starving dog. The only other sci fi stuff on at that time was Lost in Space which I also watched but even as a 10 year old, I knew it was pretty lame. I was one miserable kid if my parents couldn't get us home in time on a Saturday night for Dr Who. Wherever we were I'd get well stressed if I missed finding out how the Dr escaped from whatever cliff hanger he was in. That show helped defined my early life and gave me endless nightmares. Sometimes I wish I'd never seen the old shows again as my memories were rather more impressive in a lot of ways, funny how youthful wonderment can paper over the cracks in the scripts, and the sets. Some of them stood the test of time though, I wish the old writers were given a story each for the new series because none of those have impressed me even slightly. I liked lost in space when I was 5 because of the robot but other than that we had loads on TV, not just Star Trek but the BBC was always making little series for kids with doomy sci-fi themes. Then we had Blakes 7, known affectionately as the fifteen pound Star Trek. Good stories though whoch is what it's all about. Milton Berle show and Ed Sullivan, Gunsmoke and Gilligan's Island were the other types of offerings at that time. I remember being absolutely blown away every time the Star Trek theme music wafted forth from our old black and white tv we had at that time. Even my Old Man who generally didn't watch anything but westerns and war movies watched it with the rest of the family. It was aces! From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her f
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And we haven't even touched on his career as a singer: William Shatner - Mr Tambourine Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0hTtsqiFCc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0hTtsqiFCc William Shatner - Mr Tambourine Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0hTtsqiFCc William Shatner's beatnik version of Bob Dylan's "Mr Tambourine Man". The song is funny enough, but I thought it deserved a little Kirk to go alon... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0hTtsqiFCc Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I saw Shatner on Broadway in a one man show called Shatner's World. This was about his life, and it was one of the most entertaining shows I have ever seen. Really funny. This narcissist was able to make fun of his life in a well structured show. His almost inescapable tendency to overact served him well here. I suppose in the hectic schedule of TV production he never had a director that could tone down his excesses. Christopher Pine makes a better Captain Kirk, and he has a lot more potential for a career doing other things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared
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Not having been raised in Scorpion land, I never had the advantage of being raised on Dr. Who, so for a 10 year old kid who lusted after comics and science fiction, the original ST was like a bowl full of greasy hamburger to a starving dog. The only other sci fi stuff on at that time was Lost in Space which I also watched but even as a 10 year old, I knew it was pretty lame. Milton Berle show and Ed Sullivan, Gunsmoke and Gilligan's Island were the other types of offerings at that time. I remember being absolutely blown away every time the Star Trek theme music wafted forth from our old black and white tv we had at that time. Even my Old Man who generally didn't watch anything but westerns and war movies watched it with the rest of the family. It was aces! From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change r
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From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! OK, maybe I'll give it another try sometime. I'm basing the above rant on the last few times I watched episodes from it, and perhaps either it's mellowed since then or I have. :-) Spock was OK, and to their credit the writers did interject the occasional note of humor into the series, which at the time was near-heretical in mainstream scifi. I'm not sure it would stand the test of time for me. But if you ever want to chat about a series that for me has SO stood the test of time, it's "Firefly." *That* is the kinda crew I want on *my* spaceship. Just on the level of sheer babe-age it blows all variants of "Star Trek" away. My memory for Star Trek Babes is probably faulty, but I mean, really...the only female characters I can remember in any of them who gave me a fanboy woodie were Beverly Crusher and Seven Of Nine, maybe the Borg Queen. Compare to Kaylee, Zoe, River, Nandi, YoSafBridge, and Inara. 'Nuff said. :-) :-) :-) I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29
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I saw Shatner on Broadway in a one man show called Shatner's World. This was about his life, and it was one of the most entertaining shows I have ever seen. Really funny. This narcissist was able to make fun of his life in a well structured show. His almost inescapable tendency to overact served him well here. I suppose in the hectic schedule of TV production he never had a director that could tone down his excesses. Christopher Pine makes a better Captain Kirk, and he has a lot more potential for a career doing other things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've ye
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Ah, but for me watching old veterans like DeForrest Kelly more than makes up for Shatner's performances. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out thereor not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look in
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You realize of course that this interesting article is TM blasphemy? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, According to Tom Campbell, all of us can have an immediate access to the cosmic data bank or the akashic records to find out about our past lives and to perform remote viewing through our human consciousness. As such, we can assume that communication with ETs within the galaxy and beyond can be done instantaneously through the cosmic data bank. Is Tom Campbell even remotely trouble that nobody actually CAN access this mythical cosmic data bank? Doesn't that teeny inconvenient fact speak volumes about the veracity of his theory? If we consider consciousness as a form of data bits that pervade the entire universe, then the communication must be faster than light since we are already connected with everything through consciousness in the universe which acts and behave like a virtual reality. Even if consciousness - or anything - consisted of data bits that pervaded the universe any information passed would happen no faster than the speed of light. Information is classed as when you can tell one bit of the universe from another distinctly, a defining feature of the quantum foam is that you can't. He probably got this idea from experiments that allegedly show that pairs of quantum particles separated from each other can both be altered instantaneously no matter how far apart they are by simply altering one of them. There are many possible explanations for this even assuming the results were correct to start with. There is no possibility of them working with anything approaching information unless he thinks we are some sort of cosmic quantum computer that can encode thoughts using the fundamental level of nature. If it was true we could already do it. But we can't. Or I can't and I don't know of anyone else who can, and the theory is stupid anyway, who says that quantum bits are consciousness? The only time you hear it is from amiable flakes on the new age lecture circuit or cynical money grubbers like John Hagelin as they try and fleece the pre-brainwashed flocks of Marshy and Chopra. Why does this meme persist? Obviously it's a hang over from the early days of QP when they had something they couldn't explain and left the door vaguely open for all sorts of nonsense to creep in. It's the equivalent of religion for our computer age I think, wild promises of life after death and magical powers and it's based in the way of ooking at the world we learned at school. It's science! Perfect! The trouble is there is more to science than just coming up with wild ideas about what might be possible. You also have to demonstrate that it is possible. Have a read of this: http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Quantum/QuantumConsciousness.pdf ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or the rest of the galaxy. Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through consciousness
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out thereor not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has
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I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out thereor not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrot
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From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, According to Tom Campbell, all of us can have an immediate access to the cosmic data bank or the akashic records to find out about our past lives and to perform remote viewing through our human consciousness. As such, we can assume that communication with ETs within the galaxy and beyond can be done instantaneously through the cosmic data bank. Is Tom Campbell even remotely trouble that nobody actually CAN access this mythical cosmic data bank? Doesn't that teeny inconvenient fact speak volumes about the veracity of his theory? It's certainly never bothered JR about any of his theories. :-) If we consider consciousness as a form of data bits that pervade the entire universe, then the communication must be faster than light since we are already connected with everything through consciousness in the universe which acts and behave like a virtual reality. Even if consciousness - or anything - consisted of data bits that pervaded the universe any information passed would happen no faster than the speed of light. Information is classed as when you can tell one bit of the universe from another distinctly, a defining feature of the quantum foam is that you can't. He probably got this idea from experiments that allegedly show that pairs of quantum particles separated from each other can both be altered instantaneously no matter how far apart they are by simply altering one of them. There are many possible explanations for this even assuming the results were correct to start with. There is no possibility of them working with anything approaching information unless he thinks we are some sort of cosmic quantum computer that can encode thoughts using the fundamental level of nature. If it was true we could already do it. I think that what JR is postulating is that if two people on different sides of the planet are impressed by the same dumb idea at the same time and react by saying "Wow" at exactly the same time, their minds must be in instantaneous communication. The ancient sage Lao-tzu once commented on this phenomenon in his book the "Duh! Te Ching." :-) But we can't. Or I can't and I don't know of anyone else who can, and the theory is stupid anyway, who says that quantum bits are consciousness? The only time you hear it is from amiable flakes on the new age lecture circuit or cynical money grubbers like John Hagelin as they try and fleece the pre-brainwashed flocks of Marshy and Chopra. Why does this meme persist? Obviously it's a hang over from the early days of QP when they had something they couldn't explain and left the door vaguely open for all sorts of nonsense to creep in. It's the equivalent of religion for our computer age I think, wild promises of life after death and magical powers and it's based in the way of ooking at the world we learned at school. It's science! Perfect! The trouble is there is more to science than just coming up with wild ideas about what might be possible. You also have to demonstrate that it is possible. Have a read of this: http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Quantum/QuantumConsciousness.pdf ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or the rest of the galaxy. Or, they may be transmitting through other medi
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That's one of my favorite episodes from the Original series. Original screenplay was by Harlan Ellison I believe. I think James Blish did the final work up though. I do think Spock had more than a mirror and radio to work with but I could be wrong. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out thereor not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or the rest of the galaxy. Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe. Hmm, I'm a sentient being and I cannot communicate instantaneously with anyone - let alone across the universe - and I have never received telepathic communication either from my fe
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out thereor not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or the rest of the galaxy. Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe. Hmm, I'm a sentient being and I cannot communicate instantaneously with anyone - let alone across the universe - and I have never received telepathic communication either from my fellow humans or from aliens. And to the best of my knowledge neither has anybody else. From this we can conclude a few things. Either we humans cannot send or receive intergalactic telepathic messages for some reason, or there is no one sending them. The third option - and the one I will put money on - is that telepathy is impossible any
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I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out thereor not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or the rest of the galaxy. Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe. Hmm, I'm a sentient being and I cannot communicate instantaneously with anyone - let alone across the universe - and I have never received telepathic communication either from my fellow humans or from aliens. And to the best of my knowledge neither has anybody else. >From this we can conclude a few things. Either we humans cannot send or >receive intergalactic telepathic messages for some reason, or there is no one >sending them. The third option - and the one I will put money on - is that telepathy is impossible anyway and we therefore cannot use it as evidence either for or against alien life. Consciousness can be considered as the data bits that create the virtual reality that we live in, and that enable conscious beings to access the entire cosmic data bank--the unified field in TMO speak. These are not my ideas, but are from Tom Campbell, an author of a book that attempts to unify the ideas of philosophy and science, particularly physics. I've watched a few of his physics clips on youtube and he has a solid grasp of the subject - as you would hope given his background - the trouble is he goes leaping off into unfounded fantasies and wild extrapolations without offering any evidence other than that he thinks it's possible, and then only according to the way he interprets things. As I outline above there is a serious problem with the idea of transgalactic telepathy. He is also a standard bearer for remote viewing which is another mysterious claim that has no convincing evidence.
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Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out thereor not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or the rest of the galaxy. Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe. Hmm, I'm a sentient being and I cannot communicate instantaneously with anyone - let alone across the universe - and I have never received telepathic communication either from my fellow humans or from aliens. And to the best of my knowledge neither has anybody else. >From this we can conclude a few things. Either we humans cannot send or >receive intergalactic telepathic messages for some reason, or there is no one >sending them. The third option - and the one I will put money on - is that telepathy is impossible anyway and we therefore cannot use it as evidence either for or against alien life. Consciousness can be considered as the data bits that create the virtual reality that we live in, and that enable conscious beings to access the entire cosmic data bank--the unified field in TMO speak. These are not my ideas, but are from Tom Campbell, an author of a book that attempts to unify the ideas of philosophy and science, particularly physics. I've watched a few of his physics clips on youtube and he has a solid grasp of the subject - as you would hope given his background - the trouble is he goes leaping off into unfounded fantasies and wild extrapolations without offering any evidence other than that he thinks it's possible, and then only according to the way he interprets things. As I outline above there is a serious problem with the idea of transgalactic telepathy. He is also a standard bearer for remote viewing which is another mysterious claim that has no convincing evidence. Both things would be easy to prove so why doesn't he? Theorise then test. That's the way it works. I suppose you could say that channellers are receiving instantaneous messages from aliens but they lack all credibility. It all boils down to their being no action at a distance, if there was a way round it we would be able to exploit it here and wouldn't need to wait for aliens to talk to us. Do you agree? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Another theory about the Fermi paradox; if we aren't alone in the universe where the hell is everybody? Do carbon dioxide-creating processes always destroy the biosphere they occur in? If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | NCSE | | | | | | If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | N... The New York Times recent
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
Meaning that once the fart has issued forth from someone's hindquarters, the
master would apply paint to it so it could be seen by all and sundry.
From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky
Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to
us or the rest of the galaxy.
Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to
communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on
consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through
consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe.
Consciousness can be considered as the data bits that create the virtual
reality that we live in, and that enable conscious beings to access the entire
cosmic data bank--the unified field in TMO speak. These are not my ideas, but
are from Tom Campbell, an author of a book that attempts to unify the ideas of
philosophy and science, particularly physics.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Another theory about the Fermi paradox; if we aren't alone in the universe
where the hell is everybody?
Do carbon dioxide-creating processes always destroy the biosphere they occur in?
If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | NCSE
| |
| | | | If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | N...
The New York Times recently ran an interesting article by Adam Frank titled “Is
Climate Disaster Inevitable?” This piece posed an intriguing answer to this
puzz... | |
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If the universe is based on consciousness, then it is possible for sentient
beings to communicate through consciousness instantaneously throughout the
entire universe.
Theoretically it is also possible to paint a fart with watercolors, but I have
yet to see someone achieve that feat. That is a master I would follow.
From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky
Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to
us or the rest of the galaxy.
Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to
communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on
consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through
consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe.
Consciousness can be considered as the data bits that create the virtual
reality that we live in, and that enable conscious beings to access the entire
cosmic data bank--the unified field in TMO speak. These are not my ideas, but
are from Tom Campbell, an author of a book that attempts to unify the ideas of
philosophy and science, particularly physics.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Another theory about the Fermi paradox; if we aren't alone in the universe
where the hell is everybody?
Do carbon dioxide-creating processes always destroy the biosphere they occur in?
If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | NCSE
| |
| | | | If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | N...
The New York Times recently ran an interesting article by Adam Frank titled “Is
Climate Disaster Inevitable?” This piece posed an intriguing answer to this
puzz... | |
| View on ncse.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
Didn't you even see Star Wars?
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we
assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?'
Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble
us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication
technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the
speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any
reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what
speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined
entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is
present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience.
It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common
value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown.
So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary
barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of
light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars.
When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking
years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and
billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we
experience now which happened long ago.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way.
However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or
the rest of the galaxy.
Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to
communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on
consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through
consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe.
Hmm, I'm a sentient being and I cannot communicate instantaneously with anyone
- let alone across the universe - and I have never received telepathic
communication either from my fellow humans or from aliens. And to the best of
my knowledge neither has anybody else.
>From this we can conclude a few things. Either we humans cannot send or
>receive intergalactic telepathic messages for some reason, or there is no one
>sending them.
The third option - and the one I will put money on - is that telepathy is
impossible anyway and we therefore cannot use it as evidence either for or
against alien life.
Consciousness can be considered as the data bits that create the virtual
reality that we live in, and that enable conscious beings to access the entire
cosmic data bank--the unified field in TMO speak. These are not my ideas, but
are from Tom Campbell, an author of a book that attempts to unify the ideas of
philosophy and science, particularly physics.
I've watched a few of his physics clips on youtube and he has a solid grasp of
the subject - as you would hope given his background - the trouble is he goes
leaping off into unfounded fantasies and wild extrapolations without offering
any evidence other than that he thinks it's possible, and then only according
to the way he interprets things.
As I outline above there is a serious problem with the idea of transgalactic
telepathy. He is also a standard bearer for remote viewing which is another
mysterious claim that has no convincing evidence. Both things would be easy to
prove so why doesn't he? Theorise then test. That's the way it works.
I suppose you could say that channellers are receiving instantaneous messages
from aliens but they lack all credibility. It all boils down to their being no
action at a distance, if there was a way round it we would be able to exploit
it here and wouldn't need to wait for aliens to talk to us. Do you agree?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Another theory about the Fermi paradox; if we aren't alone in the universe
where the hell is everybody?
Do carbon dioxide-creating processes always destroy the biosphere they occur in?
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