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I think you missed the false and unfair attack part Barry baby - regardless a worthy rant on behalf of The Liars Club, I'm sure it's much appreciated by Curtis, Vaj and Sal !!! On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:25 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: I too have cyber friends, I'm sure you do. but I don't spend hours and hours for many many months defending them. How many cyber friends do you have who have been the focus for months and months, mostly in their absence, of all kinds of false and unfair attacks and comments from a bunch of people on an electronic forum seemingly bent on portraying them as a monster? To help answer these questions, as a learning aid for wayback and Steve on how to act morally and stick to the facts, Judy-style here are some facts: Curtis last posted to this forum on May 7, 2013. Since that time, he has been mentioned -- almost always negatively -- in the following number of posts by the following people: Judy - 35 Ann - 44 Doctordumbass - 52 Ravi - 60 Willytex - 8 Vaj last posted to this forum on Aug 25, 2012. Since that time, he has been mentioned -- almost always negatively -- in the following number of posts by the following people: Judy - 54 Ann - 17 Doctordumbass - 33 Ravi - 66 Willytex - 27 Sal Sunshine last posted to this forum on Aug 25, 2012. Since that time, she (tracked by Judy's insulting pet name for her Stupid Sal to avoid confusion with Sal/Salyavin) has been mentioned -- almost always negatively -- in the following number of posts by the following people: Judy - 18 Ann - 2 Doctordumbass - 1 Ravi - 14 Willytex - 1 In other words, it's *OK* for Judy and her friends to obsess on the people *they* don't like, long after they've left this forum, but if others do it to Robin, that's bad. Can you spell H Y P O C R I T E ? I think you can...
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 3:42 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, *on 14 July, 2013*, Ravi Chivukula wrote: I think you missed the false and unfair attack part Barry baby - regardless a worthy rant on behalf of The Liars Club, I'm sure it's much appreciated by Curtis, Vaj and Sal !!! But back *on 11 July 2013*, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God, how can you be so rude Barry. Is this how you spin my loving, playful, innocent purity? Oh yeah I'm totally mad and this is it, I am not talking to you unless you apologize to me. What was that you were saying about liars? But before that on *12 July 2013*, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Ravi - sorry for emailing you privately man. I apologize for making up outrageous lies about you, but I am the official spokesman for The Liars Inc, so hope you understand. Truth be told I have a huge crush on you and I so want to be like you. So please feel free to write to me on FFL anytime.
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:03 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 3:42 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, *on 14 July, 2013*, Ravi Chivukula wrote: I think you missed the false and unfair attack part Barry baby - regardless a worthy rant on behalf of The Liars Club, I'm sure it's much appreciated by Curtis, Vaj and Sal !!! But back *on 11 July 2013*, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God, how can you be so rude Barry. Is this how you spin my loving, playful, innocent purity? Oh yeah I'm totally mad and this is it, I am not talking to you unless you apologize to me. What was that you were saying about liars? But before that on *12 July 2013*, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Ravi - sorry for emailing you privately man. I apologize for making up outrageous lies about you, but I am the official spokesman for The Liars Inc, so hope you understand. Truth be told I have a huge crush on you and I so want to be like you. So please feel free to write to me on FFL anytime. OMG can't stop laughing! Yes - I was totally cracking up too. Barry is so obviously irony-challenged, the sure sign of emotional, psychological stuntedness.
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Steve, grilled artichoke! I've never even heard of that! But I love artichokes and that sounds delicious. Not to mention nutritious (-: Anyway, thank you for all the wonderful details. I think you have officially joined the ranks of good travel writers here on FFL. Part of that has to do with pacing in the narrating of events. It's not a skill I have so I enjoy seeing it in the writing of others. Anyway, welcome back, safe travels today, hope you found some good gifts and had a sweet arrival back home. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share Hi Share, We really only splurged one night. Wife had some kind of fancy chicken breast, son had a grilled flat iron steak, daughter had seafood pasta, and I had a caesar salad and grilled artichoke. Caesar salad was magnificent with the sliced anchovies. The taste I had of everyone elses dish was very good. We had Mexican one night, bbq tonight, and the rest of the time was eating at the condo or pizza type dinners. Activities were fun, but we didn't get to do the camping overnight. The conditioning wasn't really there for an 8-1/2 mile hike, and it turned out that I had to stay close to e-mail for much of each morning. But we did take a nice bike ride, (mostly all downhill) from Snowmass to Aspen, and then another day from Snowmass to Aspen via the Rio Grande Trail. About halfway through the Rio Grande Trail, tired and parched, we stopped at a path side water fall where we removed our shoes and waded in the the little spash pond and refreshed ourselves. Then yesterday was tubing on the Colorado River. Fun also, but I couldn't find a good way to stay on the tube and kept falling off. I lost the tube a one point and had to walk a ways. Little frustrating, but overall fun. Hi-light there was at the end, near Glenwood Springs, where Gaia had hot water mineral spring that went right into the river and they had built a rock pool around it where the rafters and tubers could stop and enjoy. Also, took one long day hike, which was strenuous but fun. It was that hike that made me realize I couldn't really bite off 8-1/2 miles. (along with the business stuff) Today did some fishing and caught fish after fish at a stocked pond, but had no luck later at the fast running stream. That's it in a nutshell. Have to try to find some presents on the way home tomorrow for the employees who did a stand up job while I was gone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Welcome back, Steve and it'll be great to hear about some of your adventures. I remember that you all went hiking last year. And you mentioned something about possibly camping. How was the weather? Did you all get to Aspen at all? Not to mention, how was the FOOD? PS If time is limited, please talk about the food first (-:
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For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any 'indications' that an apology is in order, or that he would accept one if you made it. Difficult though it may be for you to face, the reality is that you don't get to put conditions on making that apology. You owe it unconditionally. Nor do I think you have the moral authority
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Irony Klunker IK from Raunchy pontificating about verbal abuse yet being the woman who posted the most hard porn item on FFL about others. But maybe she doesn't think hard porn is verbal abuse, especially when it's done in kind of a sneaky, indirect way.* In any case, certainly a major inner disconnect for a grandmother IMO. What's that? We shouldn't continue to judge her for something she did in the past? Plonk! * post #326688 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional Don't confuse Share with the facts. Her mind is already made up. She sees things from her reality only. There in no room for reality in a discussion with her. Your point of view has no value despite the facts. It's a coping behavior that attempts to control the outcome of a dispute in relationships. Too bad she hasn't figured out that attacking the messenger and piling on more layers of bullshit to confuse the issue is a piss poor strategy on a public forum. http://youtu.be/amcDIPQ5z5E
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Welcome back, Steve and it'll be great to hear about some of your adventures. I remember that you all went hiking last year. And you mentioned something about possibly camping. How was the weather? Did you all get to Aspen at all? Not to mention, how was the FOOD? PS If time is limited, please talk about the food first (-: From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share Hey Share, Wonderful point. My God, do these people worship this woman. Now you've got Raunchy coming to the fore. I had a chance to skim over some the posts. I especially enjoyed the exchange between Edg and turqb on the cult article, and the point Xeno made about what must be the emotional make up of someone who demands an apology from someone, (for a percevied infraction against someone else -for God's sake!) That must have hit the target pretty well, because it elicited a Fuck Off from Judy. We don't see that very often. Still not a Fuck Off and Die. That's most been reserved mostly for Curtis when Judy has exhausted most every other argument she can put forth, and still fallen way short. Seeing alot of the f word from Judy lately. Talk about psychological stress, I guess. Anyway, returning tomorrow. Been a fun vacation, but a lot of staying in touch with work, and handling other issues back home. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote:  Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment
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Dear Share, You think by forcefully denying, shouting, screaming you can alter the truth. Judy has time and again posted the timeline of your words - the inconsistencies and contradictions, you have never once addressed those. Raunchydog was spot on with her video. You are an emotional abuser, all you have done is attacked Judy - calling it as her opinion, asking for professional credentials, calling her mean, arrogant, evil and what not. Don't forget your emotional handicaps - you are easily triggered and suffer from attachment disorder. Judy OTOH is extremely healthy - emotionally and psychologically. So your judgements are useless not Judy's. Unless you can logically address Judy's posts of your behavior you can cry and shout yourself silly and hoarse but you will be judged as an emotional abuser, someone who's severely stunted - emotionally and psychologically Ravi On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** For the record Ravi, Judy's opinions are not facts much less the truth. Nor are her distortions whether they be deliberate or merely out of habit due to lack of whole brain development eg mirror neurons. Nor are her untrained attempts to understand the emotional conditions within or between others, much less her attempts to write beneficially or even usefully about them. As for shooting the messenger, this is not that. This is recognizing that the messenger has distorted messages many times in the past and thus wisely taking the incompetent messenger's messages with a huge grain of salt. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 12, 2013 6:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. -- *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@...sharelong60@...wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have
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Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any 'indications' that an apology is in order, or that he would accept one if you made it. Difficult though it may be for you to face, the reality is that you don't get to put conditions on making that apology. You owe it unconditionally. Nor do I think you have the moral authority or mental good health to do so. I have to assume that is said without intentional irony. As to the former, I've seen how you distort what I say. No, you haven't. I don't distort what you've said. I can back up every word of what I wrote below. As to the latter, IMO I think you are out of balance with regards to Robin. Says the person who called him a psychological rapist. Barry, you're going to lose your Master of Inadvertent Irony title if you aren't careful. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Four for Share  349555 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) OTOH, thank you so much for your insights about apologizing. Xeno has no insights about apologizing. He makes it up as he goes along because he knows it impresses people like you. Robin didn't accept my apologies before and I've had no indication from him that he'd do so now. And actually I have apologized many times so I agree with you that some posters are using that issue, I'd say in an unhealthy way. IMO they need to focus on their own lives and let Robin and I, if we want, figure out who needs to apologize to whom and for what. This is grossly offensive total bullshit, Share. And somewhere deep in your stunted heart and atrophied conscience, you know it. There was plenty of hurtful words on both sides. There did not have to be *any* hurtful words on either side had you, Share, simply accepted Robin's initial explanation of what he had said to you that you had so absurdly misunderstood. Instead, you mulishly resisted that explanation--as well as his gracious (and entirely undeserved) *apology* to you for having written something quite simple and straightforward that you somehow managed to get thoroughly garbled in your own mind. It was so ridiculously, hideously garbled that Robin didn't even understand what you were objecting to at first. Robin was blameless in all this. What you call hurtful words on his side were no more than his trying to get you to deal with reality. This terrified you so badly that you made your inexcusable and utterly unjustified accusation that he had psychologically raped you-- referring back to your *original* misunderstanding. I've documented how mild your initial complaint was and how you went on to inflate and embroider it, contradicting yourself time and again and refusing to address the contradictions when they were pointed out to you. There is no way anybody but you needs to apologize. And your apology needs to be made in the same place as you made your false accusation, right here on FFL, in public where everyone can see it. That has not happened yet. Not only have you not apologized many times, you
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Emily, I suggest you look at your last posts before your left a while ago in order to ascertain who indeed keeps bringing it up. And in fact I did explain what I meant. To you actually, when you posted an online definition way back at the beginning of all this. Furthermore, I think you are not objective enough about me or Robin and so I don't find what you have to say about all that either beneficial or useful. From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share Share, you are completely missing the point and changing the context up. Judy is not commenting on the upset between you and Robin - what goes down privately between the two of you is private. What she and I also were commenting on was your irresponsible behavior on this public forum with respect to how stuck you were in automatically and steadfastly repeating an accusation of major proportion about someone publicly that you refused to back up or explain or discuss and which had no basis in anything ever posted here by Robin to you. Irresponsible. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any 'indications' that an apology is in order, or that he would accept one if you made it. Difficult though it may be for you to face, the reality is that you don't get to put conditions on making that apology. You owe it unconditionally. Nor do I think you have the moral authority or mental good health to do so. I have to assume that is said without intentional irony. As to the former, I've seen how you distort what I say. No, you haven't. I don't distort what you've said. I can back up every word of what I wrote below. As to the latter, IMO I think you are out of balance with regards to Robin. Says the person who called him a psychological rapist. Barry, you're going to lose your Master of Inadvertent Irony title if you aren't careful. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Four for Share  349555 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) OTOH, thank you so much for your insights about apologizing. Xeno has no insights about apologizing. He makes it up as he goes along because he knows it impresses people like you. Robin didn't accept my apologies before and I've had no indication from him that he'd do so now. And actually I have apologized many times so I agree with you that some posters are using that issue, I'd say in an unhealthy way. IMO they need to focus on their own lives and let Robin and I, if we want, figure out who needs to apologize to whom and for what. This is grossly offensive total bullshit, Share. And somewhere deep in your stunted heart and atrophied conscience, you know it. There was plenty of hurtful words on both sides. There did not have
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Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any 'indications' that an apology is in order, or that he would accept one if you made it. Difficult though it may be for you to face, the reality is that you don't get to put conditions on making that apology. You owe it unconditionally. Nor do I think you have the moral authority or mental good health to do so. I have to assume that is said without intentional irony. As to the former, I've seen how you distort what I say. No, you haven't. I don't distort what you've said. I can back up every word of what I wrote below. As to the latter, IMO I think you are out of balance with regards to Robin. Says the person who called him a psychological rapist. Barry, you're going to lose your Master of Inadvertent Irony title if you aren't careful. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Four for Share  349555 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) OTOH, thank you so much for your insights about apologizing. Xeno has no insights about apologizing. He makes it up as he goes along because he knows it impresses people like you. Robin didn't accept my apologies before and I've had no indication from him that he'd do so now. And actually I have apologized many times so I agree with you that some posters are using that issue, I'd say in an unhealthy way. IMO they need to focus on their own lives and let Robin and I, if we want, figure out who needs to apologize to whom and for what. This is grossly offensive total bullshit, Share. And somewhere deep in your stunted heart and atrophied conscience, you know it. There was plenty of hurtful words on both sides. There did not have to be *any* hurtful words on either side had you, Share, simply accepted Robin's initial explanation of what he had said to you that you had so absurdly misunderstood. Instead, you mulishly resisted that explanation--as well as his gracious
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On 7/12/13 4:08 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share - I think this is a brilliant move. This new strategy is the right way to avoid Judy's perverse, obsessive, pathological need to stick to facts, stick to truth. Clearly she lacks emotional intelligence, or why would she continually insist on presenting the gory, cruel, torturous facts with links to your posts over and over again. Why can't she just let you rest in peace, why does she trigger you and your attachment disorder? Your new strategy is sure to perplex and thwart Judy. Yep - where is her moral authority, what are her credentials - is she a fucking therapist, does she like have a Ph. D? Or is she even a pastoral counsellor even? Ha. So - yes, to reiterate dear Share, presenting facts is not good enough unless someone has moral or professional authority. Let her produce evidence of her training and/or authority. The gall of this vengeful woman that we will just accept the truth in the absence of any credentials. She must think we are naive and gullible. This is a sickness dear Share. People like Judy who insist on truth, insist on facts should be fucking institutionalized, they need to be fucking medicated - yeah that's we need and your efforts are very admirable, brave and courageous my dear. On 7/12/13 7:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, in order of importance: IMO you do not have the moral authority to comment beneficially on the upsets bt me and Robin; you do not have the emotional good health to comment beneficially on them; you do not have the emotional intelligence to comment usefully on them; you do not have the professional training to comment usefully or beneficially on them. IMO this is a matter bt me and Robin so lastly, I don't think it is useful or appropriate for you to comment on these matters bt him and me. *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 12, 2013 9:17 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, my own discernments re the upset bt me and Robin have been validated by objective people like Xeno and Susa Not only are they obviously not objective, they weren't following what went on. Recently I had to give Susan a primer as to the facts. Xeno has acknowledged he didn't follow things closely. Plus when Robin emailed me a few weeks ago, on June 17, he said nothing specific about our upset. So I don't think it is appropriate for you to comment on these matters. You don't seem to get it. This has to do with your behavior on FFL, in public, which gives me every right to comment. Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago, your refusal to apologize hadn't even been a topic here for some time. If he wants to come on FFL and say something about it, he's welcome to do so. Let me repeat what I said below, because you appear to have missed it: There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. With behavior as appalling as this, the target does not have to give you any 'indications' that an apology is in order, or that he would accept one if you made it. Difficult though it may be for you to face, the reality is that you don't get to put conditions on making that apology. You owe it unconditionally. Nor do I think you have the moral authority or mental good health to do so. I have to assume that is said without intentional irony. As to the former, I've seen how you distort what I say. No, you haven't. I don't distort what you've said. I can back up every word of what I wrote below. As to the latter, IMO I think you are out of balance with regards to Robin. Says the person who called him a psychological rapist. Barry, you're going to lose your Master of Inadvertent Irony title if you aren't careful. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Four for Share  349555 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) OTOH, thank you so much for your insights about apologizing. Xeno has no insights about apologizing. He makes it up as he goes along because he knows it impresses people like you. Robin didn't accept my apologies before and I've had no indication from him that he'd do so now. And actually I have apologized many times so I agree with you that some posters are using that issue, I'd say in an unhealthy way. IMO they need to focus on their own lives and let Robin and I, if we want, figure out who needs to apologize to whom and for what. This is grossly offensive total bullshit, Share. And somewhere deep in your
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On 7/12/13 7:09 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Xeno has no insights about apologizing. He makes it up as he goes along because he knows it impresses people like you. Wrong. I have no idea whether it impresses people or not, or will impress people or not. I just make it up. If I angle for trying to get some specific response from others, then that behaviour results in my being controlled by that desire. It is living in a prison. For reasons not known to me, you appear to think that what you think represents reality and truth. The human mind is a fantasy manufacturing facility, and it churns out its stuff on a second by second basis. Yes wow Xeno is back !!! Yep this nails it really - human mind is a fantasy manufacturing ability. Judy may have produced clear evidence of Share's words over and over again - but it is all fantasy, fiction. Really I can say Xenosociopath is a , something about Xeno makes me uncomfortable and his behavior is very similar to a sociopath. andI don't really need to take any accountability for it because that's what it is - my mind, conjuring up fantasies. Not to forget truth and facts don't matter in Unity - your original postulate Xeno, facts and truth don't exist at a universal, impersonal level, very powerful - very profound. I wonder if arguments like yours can used in a court of law. I mean anything can be explained away with your postulates Xeno. Why is there any need for any honesty, any integrity? I don't think you even associate with these values - you don't even have any dignity apparently. How pathetic and retarded Xeno. Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits, and Are melted into air, into thin air: And like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on; and our little life Is rounded with a sleep.
