Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Snip But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, too many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust and commitment. Only with love can you accept a person in totality. No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis choose Buddhism. Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi? Ethno-centric bias is so predictable. So you were born in that part of the world and amazingly enough conclude that the stories they tell are the rightest ones. How convenient! Hmm, no, not right stories, the wrong ones too, the good , bad and the ugly, stories of love and hatred, war and peace, life in its all fullness. Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering, consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the likes of pain projecting liberals like you. Pretty naive statement. What you have to realize Ravi is that Shakyamuni Buddha is just the primary Buddha of this era - there were Buddhas before him and there were Buddhas after him. In fact, some believe that Shiva is a corruption of a great Bonpo Buddha associated with the kingdom of Xhang Xhung (the area around current Mt. Kailash). Some of the Vedic rishis would be Buddhas as well...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering, consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the likes of pain projecting liberals like you. Why would you use the term projection while doing just that? I am not a Buddhist. I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that means. Weird game Ravi. Weird game. Weird guy, weird guy. I think his whore gave him a spiritual STD. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On Aug 26, 2011, at 8:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote: ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia! Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already... Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh... Plus a little help from having stolen the entire concept from Xerox Parc labs. :-) Sri Jobs had cognized the graphical GUI while in India; Xerox, taking advantage of the hundredth monkey effect, stole Jobs cognition. Job- ji, due to support of nature and the frictionless flow of his state of consciousness effortlessly regained what was rightfully his. Geeks in lower states of consciousness tried to replicate it, but only succeeded in mimicking Job's reality distorting cognitions of ultimate User Interface realities.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On 08/26/2011 05:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:24 AM, cardemaister wrote: ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia! Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already... Sri Jobs actually took off, long ago, in search of himself to India, backpacking and hitchhiking around that country. The trip culminated with him being taken high to the hills above Rishikesh and having his head shaved by his guru. He returned to America with a shaved head and dressed in Indian clothing. From that silence sequentially unfolded the Macintosh... Plus a little help from having stolen the entire concept from Xerox Parc labs. :-) And how Xerox Fumbled the Future in the book Fumbling the Future: http://www.amazon.com/Fumbling-Future-Invented-Personal-Computer/dp/1583482660 Of course much of today's GUI concept came from the work of Doug Engelbart at SRI circa 1968: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIgzSoTMOs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On 08/26/2011 09:35 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliamswillytex@... wrote: Bhairitu: Of course much of today's GUI concept came from the work of Doug Engelbart... The Apple Macintosh was the first commercially successful personal computer with a graphical user interface. Missed the reference to Douglas Engelbart. Alan Kay (lead/participant for most of the GUI and much of the other advanced technology work at Xerox) says that almost every major computer invention in the past 45 years was inspired by Douglas Engelbart's Mother of all Demos... google Mother of all Demos for more info. L. The YouTube link I provided IS part 1 of 9 of The Mother of All Demos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIgzSoTMOs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On 08/25/2011 08:35 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@... wrote: ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia! Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already... Let's hope Nabby has a PC instead of a Mac. Otherwise he'd have to be afraid of getting Buddhist cooties. The way the press is going with Jobs resignation you'd think he actually invented all of Apple's stuff. From what I heard he was more a governor on a lot of ideas that teams in Cupertino came up with. Apparently he likes keeping things simple so he can understand them. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On 08/25/2011 10:43 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 08/25/2011 08:35 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@ wrote: ... that Steve Jobs is a Buddhist, according to Wikipedia! Well, I guess almost everyone knew that already... Let's hope Nabby has a PC instead of a Mac. Otherwise he'd have to be afraid of getting Buddhist cooties. The way the press is going with Jobs resignation you'd think he actually invented all of Apple's stuff. From what I heard he was more a governor on a lot of ideas that teams in Cupertino came up with. Apparently he likes keeping things simple so he can understand them. :-D Actually, Jobs' main strengths have always been to recognize and inspire talent and recognize the potential for others' ideas, combined with an infectious vision (reality distortion field was originally a reference to his ability to get *engineers* fired up about a project), and a good sense of marketing to the masses. Certainly, he doesn't have a 200 IQ like Woz is said to have, but he has the ability to communicate with world-class engineers on their level combined with the ability to communicate with world-class artists and designers on THEIR level, AND coordinate the creation of an end-product that is more often than not, world-class. That combination has produced many of the most popular and significant products of the last 30 years, including the Apple I, ][ and \\e, the Mac, NeXT/MacOS X, iPod/iPhone/iPad and of course, Toy Story friends. It has made him the most influential technologist and media mogul in the world, taking Apple to become the largest company in the world and eclipsing the fact that he and his team now run DIsney (seeing that he sits on the BoD, is the largest shareholder, and John Lassiter of Pixar now runs the Disney Animation division). L. That read like an Apple PR release. :-D Here in the Bay Area the opinion of Jobs may not be as high. I once saw him give a demo of his networked development system at a multimedia event. Some folks around here thought this fictional movie pretty much hit it on the head: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Pirates_of_Silicon_Valley/70036929 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/ Maybe with him out of the picture Apple can gain the market share it should have as an alternative OS by licensing it to other companies. And maybe one won't need a damned Mac to build an iPhone app. And maybe build the UI with more than just Obejct C.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...
On 08/25/2011 12:28 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 08/25/2011 10:43 AM, sparaig wrote: [...] Actually, Jobs' main strengths have always been to recognize and inspire talent and recognize the potential for others' ideas, combined with an infectious vision (reality distortion field was originally a reference to his ability to get *engineers* fired up about a project), and a good sense of marketing to the masses. Certainly, he doesn't have a 200 IQ like Woz is said to have, but he has the ability to communicate with world-class engineers on their level combined with the ability to communicate with world-class artists and designers on THEIR level, AND coordinate the creation of an end-product that is more often than not, world-class. That combination has produced many of the most popular and significant products of the last 30 years, including the Apple I, ][ and \\e, the Mac, NeXT/MacOS X, iPod/iPhone/iPad and of course, Toy Story friends. It has made him the most influential technologist and media mogul in the world, taking Apple to become the largest company in the world and eclipsing the fact that he and his team now run DIsney (seeing that he sits on the BoD, is the largest shareholder, and John Lassiter of Pixar now runs the Disney Animation division). L. That read like an Apple PR release. :-D Do you think an Apple press release would refer to Jobs as having a reality distortion field? I've programmed Apple //e's, Classic Macs and Mac OS X. I've been an Apple programmer for nearly 30 years and I've worked for Apple indirectly as the local Performa representative, traveling around to all the dept stores, trying to make sure that the Mac displays were kept neat and functional. I've dealt with many of the Apple people over the years including Jef Raskin (founder of the original Mac project and arch enemy of Steve Jobs) and Steve Wozniak. I used to own a bit of Apple stock and became an Apple watcher because of it (had I held onto all of it I would now be worth about $4 million -I sold the last 3/4 (6 shares after a 3 x 2-way splits) of a share for $1600 earlier this year), so I've been following the company pretty darned closely compared to most people. Here in the Bay Area the opinion of Jobs may not be as high. What would they say differently? Anyone who denies what I said above is deluded. They might enjoy concentrating on his personality/character flaws, but that wasn't the point of my post. I once saw him give a demo of his networked development system at a multimedia event. Some folks around here thought this fictional movie pretty much hit it on the head: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Pirates_of_Silicon_Valley/70036929 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/ Wozniak once pointed out that while the actors nailed the personalities and inter-personal relationships of all the major characters, there was a great many factual errors in that movie. Maybe with him out of the picture Apple can gain the market share it should have as an alternative OS by licensing it to other companies. A publicly held company isn't supposed to gain market share :It is supposed to make money. Apple is now the largest company in the world, market-cap wise, and its year over year profits are growing as fast or faster than Microsoft's did at its most influential. What argument can you make that using Microsoft's strategy will make more money for Apple than Apple's strategy does? And maybe one won't need a damned Mac to build an iPhone app. And maybe build the UI with more than just Obejct C. Great marketing strategy for Apple, don't you agree? iPhone programming classes are amongst the most popular computer programming classes in the world. 100,000 people have signed up to watch the Stanford University iPhone programming classes online, and every one of them needs a Mac to sell (if not program since plenty of people have Hackintoshes) an iPhone app. When you learn to program an iPhone, you have basically learned 90-95% of what is required to program a Mac and vice versa. As I said, great marketing strategy for Apple. Objective C is basically C with object libraries added that use Smalltalk syntax and a Smalltalk-like runtime object model. I understand that most people (especially C++/C#/Java programmers) don't really understand Object-Oriented Programming but Smalltalk was the language from which almost all other OOP languages get their OOP concepts and most of languages don't do it nearly as well. Additionally, the GUI that Jobs and Gates saw at PARC was written in Smalltalk. In fact, modern GUIs and SMalltalk-OOP evolved hand in hand up until the Mac and Windows came about, so to knock using Smalltalk-like syntax in a GUI is well, stupid. On almost every detail of your post you have proven yourself to be
