Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz on 8/18/06 11:05 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does running aroung to all sorts of saints do to your deserving ability, your consciousness. Apparently not much since she is not able to fulfill even such a simple desire as to meditate in the Dome. Actually, I believe her consciousness is doing quite well. Probably a lot better than many of those in the dome. She’s just playing out her particular drama. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz on 8/18/06 9:37 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> So you’re saying that the “context” of the TMO is that you have to > lie to >> participate in it, and that she should have abandoned her > principles to get >> what she wanted. >> > Not really- I am saying that she should act as she feels is right > for her, and live with the consequences, whatever they might be. > After all it is she who created the reality that she was denied > access to the domes. Why blame others? Apparently, she feels right about telling the truth, and then continuing to take action when this doesn’t produce results. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz on 8/17/06 11:32 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is a time and a place for everything. Having been on a number > of job interviews, I have not been completely open hearted and > trusting if I wanted the job. Same thing with S. Ma, who should've > just acted in such a way to be able to do her program in the dome. > Act in context. So you’re saying that the “context” of the TMO is that you have to lie to participate in it, and that she should have abandoned her principles to get what she wanted. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
Well said.jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:> >> > That people are empathetic with Shiva Ma says much about the quality> of people that were > > attracted to the TMO in the first place...> >> > You mean all the trusting and open hearted people who are trying to do> the best they can for themselves and their world? Or the ones that had> their temporary ignorance and naivety used against them? Those people?> I quess they just aren't elite enough or rich enough, eh? Jesus, all> they want to do is program in the dome! > > JohnY>There is a time and a place for everything. Having been on a number of job interviews, I have not been completely open hearted and trusting if I wanted the job. Same thing with S. Ma, who should've just acted in such a way to be able to do her program in the dome. Act in context. I just don't understand folks who insist that everyone must know their "truth", and then if they are denied something as a result, start all the wailing and gnashing of teeth. S. Ma needs to take responsibility for her actions, and stop laying the victim trip on everyone.The TMO is not run by God directly- it is run by people and these people have decided for whatever reason on rules in order to do the program there. S. Ma sounds like she needs to mature a little bit. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! MessengerÂs low PC-to-Phone call rates. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
No, I don`t justify telling lies, and I don`t speak about lies, I just found it amusing to write it down.Greetings, Paul.Paul Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To justify telling lies, one might resort to the arguments about Absolute Truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ivica Kostić" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote: > > Actually, from the absolute point of view, noone can ever say the Truth, because Truth can never be said by any words. > > Paul Mason ...> wrote: I disagree, not 'EVERYONE' lies, but perhaps many have in the sake of > their beliefs in MMY & TM, which is a mistake, because the whole > teaching is based on trust & clearly ANY breach of that trust shakes > confidence in the rest of the information being shared. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > The thing is, EVERYONE makes mistakes and EVERYONE lies. > > > > > > > - > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
--- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (mercy snip!) > > > > > > You missed the point. If I consistantly lie, no > one > > > will trust me or > > > believe what I say. I believe you said, "And > once > > > you play fast and > > > loose with the figures in a documentable way, no > > > matter how trivial,it > > > becomes very hard to beat your chest and say > "I'm > > > really honest THIS > > > TIME, honest,"" That's why the response to the > > > courses has been so > > > weak. The "Everybody does it defense" proves my > > > point. Even 'mostly > > > free' isn't enough when the trust is gone. > > > > > > JohnY > > > > I don't think that people are not going to this > new > > course because of lack of trust, but because they > have > > lives and commitments outside of the TMO. When I > was > > in my 20's, not married, and going to college I > could > > go off to any course I wanted too and I did. But > now > > in my 50's like many others, who can just leave > their > > life and go to Fairfield for a two month course? > > >Sure, there's that too. I guess the question is: > If you could go, > would you? Is the purpose the Maharishi Effect, or > satisfying a > margin call? Or both? See what I mean about trust? > > > JohnY I got your trust thing just as I posted the above. I asked myself if I had the money and time would I actually go to the course? The answer is probably not. If I did go, the motivation would certainly have nothing to do with the ME and World Peace. I'd go to see old friends and would end up enjoying the deep experiences I always have when meditating in large groups. But the ME? Naw. That's so weak with the bhogi's sleeping in the domes and world peace does not depend upon the square root of anybody or anything. It's Kali yuga, man. Animals are incarnating for the first time in human bodies and they're acting just like, well, animals! > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
--- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (mercy snip!) > > You missed the point. If I consistantly lie, no one > will trust me or > believe what I say. I believe you said, "And once > you play fast and > loose with the figures in a documentable way, no > matter how trivial,it > becomes very hard to beat your chest and say "I'm > really honest THIS > TIME, honest,"" That's why the response to the > courses has been so > weak. The "Everybody does it defense" proves my > point. Even 'mostly > free' isn't enough when the trust is gone. > > JohnY I don't think that people are not going to this new course because of lack of trust, but because they have lives and commitments outside of the TMO. When I was in my 20's, not married, and going to college I could go off to any course I wanted too and I did. But now in my 50's like many others, who can just leave their life and go to Fairfield for a two month course? > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
Actually, from the absolute point of view, noone can ever say the Truth, because Truth can never be said by any words. Paul Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I disagree, not 'EVERYONE' lies, but perhaps many have in the sake of their beliefs in MMY & TM, which is a mistake, because the whole teaching is based on trust & clearly ANY breach of that trust shakes confidence in the rest of the information being shared.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> The thing is, EVERYONE makes mistakes and EVERYONE lies. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz on 8/15/06 4:46 PM, mainstream20016 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Maharishi has many flaws. He does so many things. He never gives up, and has grand >> plans. I am fond of him, and appreciate him more because he has feet of clay. >> He is paying a heavy price now. >Rick Archer questioned : And what is that? The doldrums of the TMO? Mainstream20016 : The reluctance of FF, U.S. & Canadian TM flyers to participate in the virtuallly free-of- charge 'Invincible America' course during a time of crises is a real shock to MMY. Is it? Did he say it was? I guess he’ll never know why the TMO withered, because no one will have the guts to tell him. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
