Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:52 PM, brian64705 wrote: I am not persuaded by those who chose to attack the messenger which is a common response to anyone raising questions. It's interesting to me that noone has so far claimed to have been present at Obamas birth in Hawaii. Brian, who exactly do you *expect* to claim to have been present at Obama's birth in Hawaii? 3 wise men and a couple of shepherds perhaps? With a star pointing the way? 48 years ago no less? Bet I couldn't produce anybody present at my birth either beyond my parents. And my dad most likely only because he was a doctor. He was a nobody~~his mother was just one more young wife giving birth amongst many others. End of story. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
So what do you want the outcome to be? Obama removed and Joe Biden president? Or maybe you want slimeball Mitt Romney in office? No less than Paul Craig Roberts, a member of the Reagan administration and a conservative said when the birther issue came up that it was all bull because Obama would have been vetted just to have public office. brian64705 wrote: Well the birthplaces of Presidents are ussually regarded as national monuments. Even actors and other famous peoples birthplaces are celebrated. And of course noone knew at the time of their births they would later be famous. I would imagine the local doctors and others who might have been present to have checked their hospital records to see if they might have been the ones to claim the honor of assisting in the birth of a future president. It seems highly suspicious to me that all Obama's private records have been sealed. With the sole exception of the certificate of live birth. Why the secrecy if there is nothing to hide? I understand the story has changed about even which institution he was born at in Hawaii. I also heard - but have not seen written anywhere - that there is a record confirming that his mother tried to fly to Hawaii but was turned away because she was too close to giving birth. So she flew immediately after giving birth and registered the birth with newspapers which allegedly was possible at the time without requiring a birth certificate. There's enough uncertainty here I think to justify asking to see the long form birth certificate. There are at least two other legal issues as well. One about whether his mother had been in the US for five years prior to age 19 in order for Obama to claim US citizenship. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:52 PM, brian64705 wrote: I am not persuaded by those who chose to attack the messenger which is a common response to anyone raising questions. It's interesting to me that noone has so far claimed to have been present at Obamas birth in Hawaii. Brian, who exactly do you *expect* to claim to have been present at Obama's birth in Hawaii? 3 wise men and a couple of shepherds perhaps? With a star pointing the way? 48 years ago no less? Bet I couldn't produce anybody present at my birth either beyond my parents. And my dad most likely only because he was a doctor. He was a nobody~~his mother was just one more young wife giving birth amongst many others. End of story. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Joe wrote: Dude. The truth prevailed on that one long ago. You choose not to believe it because you don't want to believe it. You want your country back, right? (I thought so.) Obama Birthers are right there with folks who think the landing on the moon was shot in Hollywood and that 9/11 was a US Government plot. Enjoy you status as a complete looney tune. With every post Brian is proving himself to be not only a few french fries short of a Happy Meal, but also a charter member of the Angy-White-Guys-Whose-World-Is-Rapidly- Changing-And-Who-Know-They-Can't-Stop-It-But-Who-Are Dang-Well-Gonna-Try-Anyway Club. Not by doing anything substantial, of course~~simply by starting rumors and casting doubt (or at least their version of it) where and when they can. It would be funny if it weren't sad. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
Yeah, take that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_QcGpR8SCY From: Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 1 July, 2010 6:11:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube Dude. The truth prevailed on that one long ago. You choose not to believe it because you don't want to believe it. You want your country back, right? (I thought so.) Obama Birthers are right there with folks who think the landing on the moon was shot in Hollywood and that 9/11 was a US Government plot. Enjoy you status as a complete looney tune. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: So what do you want the outcome to be? That the truth prevail! Release the long form birth certificate so all can see that this a nation which abides by the rule of law. Not a nation of bullies where might is right allowing the powerful to refuse to abide by the laws and treaties that are the hallmark of any civilized society. Obama removed and Joe Biden president? Or maybe you want slimeball Mitt Romney in office? No less than Paul Craig Roberts, a member of the Reagan administration and a conservative said when the birther issue came up that it was all bull because Obama would have been vetted just to have public office. brian64705 wrote: Well the birthplaces of Presidents are ussually regarded as national monuments. Even actors and other famous peoples birthplaces are celebrated. And of course noone knew at the time of their births they would later be famous. I would imagine the local doctors and others who might have been present to have checked their hospital records to see if they might have been the ones to claim the honor of assisting in the birth of a future president. It seems highly suspicious to me that all Obama's private records have been sealed. With the sole exception of the certificate of live birth. Why the secrecy if there is nothing to hide? I understand the story has changed about even which institution he was born at in Hawaii. I also heard - but have not seen written anywhere - that there is a record confirming that his mother tried to fly to Hawaii but was turned away because she was too close to giving birth. So she flew immediately after giving birth and registered the birth with newspapers which allegedly was possible at the time without requiring a birth certificate. There's enough uncertainty here I think to justify asking to see the long form birth certificate. There are at least two other legal issues as well. One about whether his mother had been in the US for five years prior to age 19 in order for Obama to claim US citizenship. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:52 PM, brian64705 wrote: I am not persuaded by those who chose to attack the messenger which is a common response to anyone raising questions. It's interesting to me that noone has so far claimed to have been present at Obamas birth in Hawaii. Brian, who exactly do you *expect* to claim to have been present at Obama's birth in Hawaii? 3 wise men and a couple of shepherds perhaps? With a star pointing the way? 48 years ago no less? Bet I couldn't produce anybody present at my birth either beyond my parents. And my dad most likely only because he was a doctor. He was a nobody~~his mother was just one more young wife giving birth amongst many others. End of story. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
Not taking sides hereactually it is racist to refer as an Angry white guy. From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 1 July, 2010 8:25:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Joe wrote: Dude. The truth prevailed on that one long ago. You choose not to believe it because you don't want to believe it. You want your country back, right? (I thought so.) Obama Birthers are right there with folks who think the landing on the moon was shot in Hollywood and that 9/11 was a US Government plot. Enjoy you status as a complete looney tune. With every post Brian is proving himself to be not only a few french fries short of a Happy Meal, but also a charter member of the Angy-White-Guys-Whose-World-Is-Rapidly- Changing-And-Who-Know-They-Can't-Stop-It-But-Who-Are Dang-Well-Gonna-Try-Anyway Club. Not by doing anything substantial, of course~~simply by starting rumors and casting doubt (or at least their version of it) where and when they can. It would be funny if it weren't sad. Sal Excellent description of a person from Planet Wingnuttia! Well done, Sal!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
Well Raunch, maybe it isn't a ridiculous craze. Maybe it's true. He sure is *acting* like he has something to hide and that isn't very presidential. If he is willing to display a COLB on the Internet, why not show the original BC on the Internet? I also believe he was probably born in Hawaii, but the more defiant he is, the worse he looks and he has so many problems, you would think, he would do whatever he could to minimize any or all of them. Question is, what would become of all the legislation he has signed if it turned out he really was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii? Talk about a mess! Where would you stand if it turned out he was not constitutionally qualified to hold the office? Where would the Democrats stand? I don't think you can change the law retroactively. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 6:39:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube Obama was probably born in Hawaii. That should be the end of the story but it isn't because Obama refuses to show his birth certificate. If he has nothing to hide, why doesn't he just show the damn thing and put the whole ridiculous birther craze to rest? What's on a Hawaiian BC that isn't on a COLB? Is there anything on his BC that would make him ineligible to serve as president? Inquiring minds want to know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Can't resist this one... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_reply@ wrote: Well the birthplaces of Presidents are ussually regarded as national monuments. Only if they were born at home. We really don't have much by way of comparison. Jimmy Carter was the first president born in a hospital, but his Web bios don't give the name, only the town. Reagan was born in a commercial building, according to Wikipedia, but no address is given; George H.W. Bush was born at home, and that address *is* given. Wikipedia doesn't say whether Clinton was born at home or in a hospital. George W. Bush was born in a hospital, but the name isn't given. I'm not aware of any of the hospitals Carter, George W. Bush, and (maybe) Clinton were born in being made a national monument, are you? Even actors and other famous peoples birthplaces are celebrated. Again, not if they were born in a hospital. The home where a famous person *grew up*, if it's still around, is often celebrated. And of course noone knew at the time of their births they would later be famous. I would imagine the local doctors and others who might have been present to have checked their hospital records to see if they might have been the ones to claim the honor of assisting in the birth of a future president. So do we know of any hospital staff claiming to have been present in the hospitals at the births of Carter, George W. Bush, and (maybe) Clinton? It seems highly suspicious to me that all Obama's private records have been sealed. With the sole exception of the certificate of live birth. Why the secrecy if there is nothing to hide? Now, that's funny. His private records are sealed, *except for* his certificate of live birth, and somehow that makes you suspicious of where he was born? I understand the story has changed about even which institution he was born at in Hawaii. I also heard - but have not seen written anywhere - that there is a record confirming that his mother tried to fly to Hawaii but was turned away because she was too close to giving birth. So she flew immediately after giving birth and registered the birth with newspapers which allegedly was possible at the time without requiring a birth certificate. And have you checked to see if these stories can be verified? Have you checked to see whether any of them have been *debunked*? For example, are you aware that in Hawaii, newspapers get their lists of births directly from the state department of health, not from registrations made by parents? I found that information in about two minutes. There's enough uncertainty here I think to justify asking to see the long form birth certificate. No, Brian, there isn't. There are at least two other legal issues as well. One about whether his mother had been in the US for five years prior to age 19 in order for Obama to claim US citizenship. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:52 PM, brian64705 wrote: I am not persuaded by those who chose to attack the messenger which is a common response to anyone raising questions. It's interesting to me that noone has so far claimed to have been present at Obamas birth in Hawaii. Brian, who exactly do you *expect* to claim to have been present at Obama's birth in Hawaii? 3 wise men and a couple of shepherds
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
Oh, relax Judy. It was just a couple of gaffs on Michelle's part, kind of like when Barry mentioned *his Islamic religion* to Georgie Stephanopolous on *This Week*. I saw Michelle's comment on TV and by the way, you can google *my Kenyan husband* and should find both of her's on You Tube. I just find it a bit humorous that after so much denial on their part, and yours, that they stick their feet in their mouths. Same thing happened with Cheney. On some news program , probably Meet the Depressed, after repeatedly saying there is no evidence that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11, he said exactly the opposite and of course, the rest is history. It was one of those moments when you're trying so hard not to say something and without being aware of it, you say exactly the opposite of what you intended. What do they call that, a senior moment? From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 8:44:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Funny you should bring this up. A few weeks ago Michelle referred to her husband as a Kenyan and in April as having gone to her husband's home country, Kenya. Right, that Michelle, they really need to keep her from speaking in public so she doesn't spill the beans. guffaw Think you could be just a little more gullible, Mike? Hasn't it occurred to you that if Obama wasn't born in the U.S., the chances of her saying so in public are exactly ZERO? Where did you hear this? Glenn? Rush? Hannity? Let's see the full quote in context, please, with its original source. Maybe we can have these accusations finally cleared up in 2012 They were cleared up a LONG time ago. He was born in Hawaii. snip From: brian64705 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Very good documentary on the Obama birth question http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=a+question+of+eligibilityaq=5 Brian, read this: http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2009/wndbirthlies.html#grandmother http://tinyurl.com/26t9rr8
