Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
Let me try this differently. I know you won't agree, we rarely do, but my experience is that the left uses empathy as a tool, a power tool, to impose a guilt trip on the public for the purpose of redistribution of wealth. I also believe these students, in the study, are on to the *trip* and reject it, as I did when I was in my twenties and thus must be labeled as cruel , heartless,greedy,sociopaths, yada yada yada, a demonization process. A process the Soviet Union took to extremes to control dissidents. If you don't believe in their system , there must be something wrong with you and you need to be institutionalized and on meds till you're better, eliminating competing ideas. My rant, about freedom and the constitution, was simply that. People need to be free to rise and fall, succeed or fail. Free markets are like the process of evolution, clearing out old useless ideas and allowing new ones to take hold and grow so individuals and the economy can prosper. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 1:22:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Judy, let me clarify this. I'm not against empathy, just those that wear it on their sleeves for the whole world to see and *admire*, especially for political purposes.I would call that *false empathy* and when I see it or hear it, it makes me want to vomit. I can understand that. Don't know how you can always tell for sure whether it's true or false, though. And boy, that didn't seem like what you were objecting to to start with! What does that have to do with FREEDOM and the Constitution and all the other stuff you were spouting? Â Kind of reminds me of Christ reading the riot act to the Pharisees in the Temple, calling them vipers and brooder vipers, whited sepulchers, all clean and white outside, but full of dead men's bones and corruption inside, standing in the doorway to heaven , neither going in nor allowing others to enter. That's fine for hypocrisy-in-general, but in this case one of the things he was railing at them for was *lack* of empathy: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Man, I love that whole rant. I think every politician and CEO should be required to stand in front of the mirror every morning and deliver it to themselves, loudly, with gestures (in the King James version, please).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
So you don't mind if we don't empathize with you? I'm not into belligerence anyway. Mike Dixon wrote: Of course anyone can have and in some cases *show* it. Lets' do it for the ...children.:) From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:16:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: You're jumping to conclusions... again. Your article was about students having *less* empathy, not *zero* empathy. Survival of the fittest in this context was exactly what the the Nation was founded on, FREEDOM. You are free to follow your heart's desire. You are free to succeed and free to fail. We have equality of opportunity, not outcome. And we can't have that and be empathetic as well??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
Judy, let me clarify this. I'm not against empathy, just those that wear it on their sleeves for the whole world to see and *admire*, especially for political purposes.I would call that *false empathy* and when I see it or hear it, it makes me want to vomit. Kind of reminds me of Christ reading the riot act to the Pharisees in the Temple, calling them vipers and brooder vipers, whited sepulchers, all clean and white outside, but full of dead men's bones and corruption inside, standing in the doorway to heaven , neither going in nor allowing others to enter. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 5:44:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy Of course anyone can have and in some cases *show* it. Lets' do it for the ...children. :) From: authfriend jst...@panix. com To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:16:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: You're jumping to conclusions. .. again. Your article was about students having *less* empathy, not *zero* empathy. Survival of the fittest in this context was exactly what the the Nation was founded on, FREEDOM. You are free to follow your heart's desire. You are free to succeed and free to fail. We have equality of opportunity, not outcome. And we can't have that and be empathetic as well??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
Whatever floats your boat. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 11:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy So you don't mind if we don't empathize with you? I'm not into belligerence anyway. Mike Dixon wrote: Of course anyone can have and in some cases *show* it. Lets' do it for the ...children.:) From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:16:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: You're jumping to conclusions... again. Your article was about students having *less* empathy, not *zero* empathy. Survival of the fittest in this context was exactly what the the Nation was founded on, FREEDOM. You are free to follow your heart's desire. You are free to succeed and free to fail. We have equality of opportunity, not outcome. And we can't have that and be empathetic as well??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
Ummm... empathy, love and compassion are three different concepts. Empathy is the least spiritual of the three. For you hindu wannabes, Krishna warns in the Gita not to *feel* too badly for those he condems and that is what empathy is, *feeling* another's loss, not simply being aware of or doing something about it. Empathy is not productive, in fact may be more counter productive, getting lost in negative emmotion. Compassion and love are much more spiritual and helpful to everyone. From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 8:07:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Good for them!! Nothing like being saddled with other people's debts and being their *slaves* to make you worry about your own future. It's about time a new generation return to living according to *natural law* i.e. evolution,  survival of the fittest, allowing the cream to rise to the top, freedom! Of course this leads to so much prosperity that once again, the next generation will have too much free time and again begin to ponder if they can organize life better than nature. Yes, yes! Let's live like animals! I'll get mine and fuck everybody else! There is no morality but selfishness! Greed and selfishness is good! Caring for others is for suckers and losers! Compassion is evil! The only virtue is selfishness. ~~ Ayn Rand Kudos to the*me generation*, God bless you! But wait! ... Did use the word God Mr Dixon? --Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. ...If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. 1 John 4:7-8, 20-21 From: do.rflex do.rf...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 9:22:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Study: Today's students have less empathy  Today's College Students Lack Empathy By Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Managing Editor posted: 28 May 2010 08:05 am ET        Live Science - College students today are less likely to get the emotions of others than their counterparts 20 and 30 years ago, a new review study suggests. Specifically, today's students scored 40 percent lower on a measure of empathy than their elders did. The findings are based on a review of 72 studies of 14,000 American college students overall conducted between 1979 and 2009. We found the biggest drop in empathy after the year 2000, said Sara Konrath, a researcher at the University of Michigan's Institute for Social Research. The study was presented this week at the annual meeting of the Association for Psychological Science in Boston. Is generation me all about me? Compared with college students of the late 1970s, current students are less likely to agree with statements such as I sometimes try to understand my friends better by imagining how things look from their perspective, and I often have tender, concerned feelings for people less fortunate than me. Many people see the current group of college students †sometimes called 'Generation Me' †as one of the most self-centered, narcissistic, competitive, confident and individualistic in recent history, said Konrath, who is also affiliated with the University of Rochester Department of Psychiatry. Konrath's colleague graduate student Edward O'Brien added, It's not surprising that this growing emphasis on the self is accompanied by a corresponding devaluation of others. Other recent studies have shown mixed results on the character of today's youth. For instance, one study of more than 450,000 high-school seniors born at different time periods showed today's youth are no more self-centered than their parents were at their age. The role of media Even so, Konrath and O'Brien suggest several reasons for the lower empathy they found, including the ever-increasing exposure to media in the current generation. Compared to 30 years ago, the average American now is exposed to three times as much nonwork-related information, Konrath said. In terms of media content, this generation of college students grew up with video games, and a growing body of research, including work done by my colleagues at Michigan, is establishing that exposure to violent media numbs people to the pain of others. The rise in social media could also play a role. The ease of having 'friends' online might make people more likely to just tune out when they don't feel like responding to others'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
Of course anyone can have and in some cases *show* it. Lets' do it for the ...children.:) From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:16:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: You're jumping to conclusions... again. Your article was about students having *less* empathy, not *zero* empathy. Survival of the fittest in this context was exactly what the the Nation was founded on, FREEDOM. You are free to follow your heart's desire. You are free to succeed and free to fail. We have equality of opportunity, not outcome. And we can't have that and be empathetic as well??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
This was progressively developed over the last century. Here's part one of a four part BBC documentary that I've recommended many times here called The Century of the Self: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614 The public has been manipulated to be the Me society. And Mike should be pleased know that another study shows these students aren't really interested in any career climbing and say they'll be perfectly happy to be poorer and have more free time than working their asses off. ;-) WillyTex wrote: The 'Me Generation' describes anyone born in the 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s -- this means people between the ages of 7 and 36. Apparently most of the informants on FFL are 'Baby Boomers' or were born during the 'Silent Generation' - 1925 to 1945. From what I can tell, there are no 'Generation Xers' on this list. Mike: Good for them!! Today's College Students Lack Empathy By Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Managing Editor
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy
do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Good for them!! Nothing like being saddled with other people's debts and being their *slaves* to make you worry about your own future. It's about time a new generation return to living according to *natural law* i.e. evolution,  survival of the fittest, allowing the cream to rise to the top, freedom! Of course this leads to so much prosperity that once again, the next generation will have too much free time and again begin to ponder if they can organize life better than nature. Kudos to the*me generation*, God bless you! Yes, yes! Let's live like animals! I'll get mine and fuck everybody else! There is no morality but selfishness! Greed and selfishness is good! Caring for others is for suckers and losers! Compassion is evil! Not to mention that what the article describes is also the classic definition of a psychopath. Is that what is coming up? A generation of psychopaths? Maybe that is what is needed for the coming road warrior world.
