Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
Nabloss wrote: I'm not enlightened so what I say is just what I've read on this matter, a consensus of severel enlightened Masters: One will never become God. One with God in full enlightenment yes, but you do not become Him/Her. It's simply not possible. Bronte writes: Everything is possible. Wasn't it Maharishi who said that? And Nabby, if God is the mind that organizes and created everything, the deepest part of ourselves, how can we not become Him/Her? We already are that. nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you describe some of the ways it grows and grows? I've wondered along these lines. When you're sharing the mind of God, as you put it, is it possible to know whatever you ask to? Like say you want to know what Bronte looks like, will you suddenly get an accurate picture in your head of me? Can you know anything you want to at will? Will it simply enter your head intact, as completely reliable, verifiable information? If not, then to me it wouldn't be completely a sharing of the mind of God. Because God knows all those things simultaneously. Bronte I'm not enlightened so what I say is just what I've read on this matter, a consensus of severel enlightened Masters: One will never become God. One with God in full enlightenment yes, but you do not become Him/Her. It's simply not possible. An enlightened man can know anything anytime, but not everything all of the time. - Maharishi - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
date: June 20th, 1954 time: 3:28 AM place: 553 F Street, Chula Vista, California I was born in May 54. You may already know that Hagelin was born 11 days before you. --- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Jim. I'll send you a copy of the chart and my analysis in private. Regards, John R. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Jim, Can you share with us your birth data (date, time, location)? As you may have gathered, I have deep interest in jyotish. We would like to see how your experiences are shown in the birth chart. Regards, John R. Only if you promise to share your conclusions with me (offline if you like)! I am fascinated by so many myriad things, and jyotish is one, though I know nothing about it. What fun! date: June 20th, 1954 time: 3:28 AM place: 553 F Street, Chula Vista, California To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
Hey Jim, do you experience gods? If so, what’s your take on Bronte’s opinion of them? She can summarize that for you if you didn’t read her earlier post. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
Can you describe some of the ways it grows and grows? I've wondered along these lines. When you're sharing the mind of God, as you put it, is it possible to know whatever you ask to? Like say you want to know what Bronte looks like, will you suddenly get an accurate picture in your head of me? Can you know anything you want to at will? Will it simply enter your head intact, as completely reliable, verifiable information? If not, then to me it wouldn't be completely a sharing of the mind of God. Because God knows all those things simultaneously. Bronte jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Self-Realization = Brahman Consciousness ? Yes, only it is different than the other seven states of consciousness that have been spoken about; waking, dreaming, sleeping, TC, CC, GC, UC, because it not only includes them all, but it has no bound and distinctive characteristics of its own. That is the confounding and paradoxical quality of Brahman when it is described, and the absolute runaway joy of its experience. It is absolute freedom, that grows, and grows and grows and grows, without end. Sharing the mind of God, like a 'free refills' glass of lemonade on a hot summer's day. Always satisfies.:-) - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
Then Jim, would you tell us about angels? I would love that. I sort of collect people's angel experiences. What do they look like to you? What do you see them do? What personal interactions have you had with them? Do they really go around like Superman saving the day for people, saving them from accidents and things? It seems this is the case. The author Joan Westmore Anderson puts out about one book a year of true-life angel experiences people have sent her over the recent months. It's very inspiring to read her stuff -- names and towns of the people are provided. From your own experience, what do you think angels are, in relation to gods? How are they different? jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jim, do you experience gods? If so, what's your take on Bronte's opinion of them? She can summarize that for you if you didn't read her earlier post. Hi, I read Bronte's take, and enjoyed the subject matter. I haven't experienced gods as much as I do angels for example, as discrete beings, because I don't want to take on that power directly-- The gods are very, very powerful, and to open myself to that experience, carries with it a *lot* of responsibility!!! So, I glance at them from time to time, and definitely submerge myself in their vibration, or find myself thus at times. Om Shiva. There is no limit that I have found for my so called 'free' will, either from the gods or otherwise. It always comes down to what I choose to experience, and its attendant consequences. Experience is more a matter of just being present, than due to some inexorable outside or inside influence. Fyi, life for me is like for everyone else, pretty darned normal. I am getting ready to attend my mother in law's 85th birthday party today, with my wife and daughter. Should be a good time!:-) - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple You mention that average joe found freedom reminds me of Trotaka, the first of Shankaras four closest disciples to gain enlightenment. He was a murderer before he sat out to find Realization, and gained enlightenment before his wise fellow-disciples. I’ve never heard of Trotaka being a murderer. Aren’t you mixing him up with Valmiki? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 5:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:55 PM To: HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple You mention that average joe found freedom reminds me of Trotaka, the first of Shankaras four closest disciples to gain enlightenment. He was a murderer before he sat out to find Realization, and gained enlightenment before his wise fellow-disciples. I've never heard of Trotaka being a murderer. Aren't you mixing him up with Valmiki? No Can you find a reference for this? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1010 - Release Date: 9/15/2007 7:54 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
Jim wrote: God's management of the Universe isn't directly comprehensible, and yet there are ways to gain access into that mind, ways to sense it, feel it, and merge with it. Its all about transforming boundaries, stories, limitations into freedom and infinity. Bronte writes: I'm very interested in knowing about those ways to gain access. It seems to me in full masterhoood a person would be so one with God that they completely can share that Mind, including knowing all things at once. What you have described sounds more analogous to me walking into your office, watching you juggling all the plates -- managing things -- but not really having access to all that you know in your work. You could show me a manual in your office and I could read it and know that part of your work, but that's very different from complete oneness with your mind, in which state I would literally know all that you know about your job. If we really are all THAT, which I believe we are, we ought to be able to fully experience that fullest aspect of ourselves. Yet I don't hear anyone in the guru set saying that's part of the package, and you don't seem to say so either. That makes me suspect there's still a higher level of evolution to rise to, in which the person very literally becomes the Source in its fullness and in its full capacities again. That would mean this brahman business is good stuff, but not the end of the road by any means. As far as your experimenting with intuiting what I look like, you were off on just about everything but white female. Let me have a try at you: I picture you slim, blonde, and smiling. Probably not a real intuition but the impression I get because there's so much light, joy and kindness in your writing. So I think of you like sunshine. - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Light of Self Realization, plain and simple
Jim: Brahman is *always* the beginning of the road, Always new, always fresh, always like the dawn, through the full ripeness of the day-- not static at all. I have no idea what comes next, except to say it is new, wonderful, and fulfilling.: -) Bronte: Got it. Good explanation, thanks. Bronte: I picture you slim, blonde, and smiling. Jim: I was born blonde, and used to be slim until about five years ago. Yes, I smile a lot! And laugh a lot too! There's actually a pic of me, and my daughter, in the FFL Photos section.:-) Bronte: Probably not a real intuition but the impression I get because there's so much light, joy and kindness in your writing. So I think of you like sunshine. Jim: My mother in law calls my Sonny or Sunny, and yellow has always been my favorite color. I was born on the longest day of sunshine in the year. I love both sunlight and moonlight. Bronte: I'll look it up. Cool that I picked up on your sunshine thing. I worked on developing intuition in the Ramtha School. I love playing psychic games like remote viewing. It puts me right into a cosmic space. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
