Re: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo

2011-10-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:34 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

 Just as a question, how many of you out there in the 
 FFL audience still, to this day, light a stick of 
 incense and then, to blow it out, either wave the
 stick in the air or wave your hand over it, to create
 a breeze that blows out the flame?
 
 I caught myself doing this tonight.
 
 Immediately thereafter, I caught myself thinking, 
 WHY the fuck am I doing this? Does it really 
 MATTER whether I blow this stick of incense out 
 by waving my paw at it, Dogbert-like, or whether 
 I blow it out with my human -- and thus so-much-
 lower-than-incense-deserves -- breath?

I thought the woo-woo reason you were supposed to
wave your hand at it rather than use your precious
breath to blow it out was to preserve your prana
or something like that.  But the incense deserves
better than my lowly, stinking breath is a pretty
good meme too.  And for the record, we never use 
it, going on the very well-established meme
that fire and kids generally don't mix, not to 
mention hokey hocus-pocus-like ceremonies that
would have most kids' very-accurate BS meters
going off the charts.

Sal 







RE: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo

2011-10-10 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of turquoiseb
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:35 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo

 

  

Just as a question, how many of you out there in the 
FFL audience still, to this day, light a stick of 
incense and then, to blow it out, either wave the
stick in the air or wave your hand over it, to create
a breeze that blows out the flame?

I caught myself doing this tonight.

Immediately thereafter, I caught myself thinking, 
WHY the fuck am I doing this? Does it really 
MATTER whether I blow this stick of incense out 
by waving my paw at it, Dogbert-like, or whether 
I blow it out with my human -- and thus so-much-
lower-than-incense-deserves -- breath?

I was unable to come up with a satisfactory answer. 
So I pass it along to you in the FFL 'verse: DOES 
it make any difference at all whether we blow out 
a stick of incense by waving at it with our hands 
or blowing it out with our own breath?

I don't actually expect anyone to answer, but I do
suggest that the answers might have been interesting
if anyone were interested in questioning the things
we never question...

You don't want to offend Agni, do you?



Re: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo

2011-10-10 Thread Bhairitu
On 10/10/2011 08:34 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 Just as a question, how many of you out there in the
 FFL audience still, to this day, light a stick of
 incense and then, to blow it out, either wave the
 stick in the air or wave your hand over it, to create
 a breeze that blows out the flame?

 I caught myself doing this tonight.

 Immediately thereafter, I caught myself thinking,
 WHY the fuck am I doing this? Does it really
 MATTER whether I blow this stick of incense out
 by waving my paw at it, Dogbert-like, or whether
 I blow it out with my human -- and thus so-much-
 lower-than-incense-deserves -- breath?

 I was unable to come up with a satisfactory answer.
 So I pass it along to you in the FFL 'verse: DOES
 it make any difference at all whether we blow out
 a stick of incense by waving at it with our hands
 or blowing it out with our own breath?

 I don't actually expect anyone to answer, but I do
 suggest that the answers might have been interesting
 if anyone were interested in questioning the things
 we never question...

It's just part of tradition and considered rude to blow on the incense.  
No biggie just to put it out with a wave of the hand.  It's not limited 
by any means to TM either.

In tantra one is supposed to face east when meditating and bad to face 
south unless you are performing a siddhi such as Uchattan or Maran where 
it is appropriate.  Which way to face was not a part of TM unless it was 
added after my time.

We often don't mess with traditions since they are easy to follow.




RE: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo

2011-10-10 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bhairitu
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 3:48 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo



In tantra one is supposed to face east when meditating and bad to face 
south unless you are performing a siddhi such as Uchattan or Maran where 
it is appropriate. Which way to face was not a part of TM unless it was 
added after my time.

 

At Poland Spring, MMY said to face East in the morning and North in the
evening. People still do that to this day. (I do.)