Re: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo
On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:34 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Just as a question, how many of you out there in the FFL audience still, to this day, light a stick of incense and then, to blow it out, either wave the stick in the air or wave your hand over it, to create a breeze that blows out the flame? I caught myself doing this tonight. Immediately thereafter, I caught myself thinking, WHY the fuck am I doing this? Does it really MATTER whether I blow this stick of incense out by waving my paw at it, Dogbert-like, or whether I blow it out with my human -- and thus so-much- lower-than-incense-deserves -- breath? I thought the woo-woo reason you were supposed to wave your hand at it rather than use your precious breath to blow it out was to preserve your prana or something like that. But the incense deserves better than my lowly, stinking breath is a pretty good meme too. And for the record, we never use it, going on the very well-established meme that fire and kids generally don't mix, not to mention hokey hocus-pocus-like ceremonies that would have most kids' very-accurate BS meters going off the charts. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:35 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo Just as a question, how many of you out there in the FFL audience still, to this day, light a stick of incense and then, to blow it out, either wave the stick in the air or wave your hand over it, to create a breeze that blows out the flame? I caught myself doing this tonight. Immediately thereafter, I caught myself thinking, WHY the fuck am I doing this? Does it really MATTER whether I blow this stick of incense out by waving my paw at it, Dogbert-like, or whether I blow it out with my human -- and thus so-much- lower-than-incense-deserves -- breath? I was unable to come up with a satisfactory answer. So I pass it along to you in the FFL 'verse: DOES it make any difference at all whether we blow out a stick of incense by waving at it with our hands or blowing it out with our own breath? I don't actually expect anyone to answer, but I do suggest that the answers might have been interesting if anyone were interested in questioning the things we never question... You don't want to offend Agni, do you?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo
On 10/10/2011 08:34 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Just as a question, how many of you out there in the FFL audience still, to this day, light a stick of incense and then, to blow it out, either wave the stick in the air or wave your hand over it, to create a breeze that blows out the flame? I caught myself doing this tonight. Immediately thereafter, I caught myself thinking, WHY the fuck am I doing this? Does it really MATTER whether I blow this stick of incense out by waving my paw at it, Dogbert-like, or whether I blow it out with my human -- and thus so-much- lower-than-incense-deserves -- breath? I was unable to come up with a satisfactory answer. So I pass it along to you in the FFL 'verse: DOES it make any difference at all whether we blow out a stick of incense by waving at it with our hands or blowing it out with our own breath? I don't actually expect anyone to answer, but I do suggest that the answers might have been interesting if anyone were interested in questioning the things we never question... It's just part of tradition and considered rude to blow on the incense. No biggie just to put it out with a wave of the hand. It's not limited by any means to TM either. In tantra one is supposed to face east when meditating and bad to face south unless you are performing a siddhi such as Uchattan or Maran where it is appropriate. Which way to face was not a part of TM unless it was added after my time. We often don't mess with traditions since they are easy to follow.
RE: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 3:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Persistence Of Woo Woo In tantra one is supposed to face east when meditating and bad to face south unless you are performing a siddhi such as Uchattan or Maran where it is appropriate. Which way to face was not a part of TM unless it was added after my time. At Poland Spring, MMY said to face East in the morning and North in the evening. People still do that to this day. (I do.)