Re: [farsiweb] Re: Persian input with US/European keyboard
Re Roozbeh Pournader's message of 12 Jun 2003: > Do you really belive so?! It's definitely harder to type "zban farsi" > than "cfhk thvsd" for the word "زبان فارسی" for almost > everybody I know around here. And almost all of them are *more* > familiar with the QWERTY keyboard than with the کمنتالبیسش > keyboard. If you mean that it's easier to type Persian on a Persian _physical_ keyboard with the Iranian layout, I'm sure you're right. PerScript is designed for use on US/European QWERTY keyboards, where the keys are actually marked Q, W, E, R, T, Y, etc. Nigel ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
RE: [farsiweb] Persian input with US/European keyboard
Re Peter E. Hauer's message of 12 Jun 2003:
Many thanks for your patient testing & feedback.
> I tried your demo at
> http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/fdemo_online.htm and found that
> some of the substitution rules you use are problematic (e.g., in the
> beginning of a new line, "oftad" generates ? and NOT ? ;
I can't replicate this, I'm afraid.
> in front of certain punctuation marks, "do" generates ?? and NOT ??);
Could you please specify which punct. marks? Ah yes, you must mean
things like {}<>/. We'll look into that.
> what's more, punctuation in LTR (Latin) insert mode does not work
> properly -- it always follows RTL rules!
This is true. The Latin feature is intended mainly for the occasional word,
title or place name -- but I agree the punctuation should be correct if
possible.
Nigel
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[farsiweb] Re: Persian input with US/European keyboard
Re Mostafa Modirrousta's message of 11 Jun 2003: > This program of yours, it is not free, is it? No, but you can try it out by typing short passages of 10 lines or so with the online demo. > Also, there is a link on your page to Eurofarsi or something like > that. As a movement which has no authority over Persian language, this > site offers no valuable information, insight, or help, to Persian > writing people around the world. It only adds to the problems! You're probably right, but I think it's interesting to see a different approach -- however eccentric you may think it is! Incidentally, it's meant to help Persian-_speaking_ people -- not all of whom are Persian-_writing_. In practice, of course, people use the Latin alphabet in an informal way, writing "Janam" if they're in an English-speaking environment, & "Djanam" or maybe "Dschanam" if they're in France or Germany. > Learning new combination of latin alphabets for Persian characters per > se is not that new or helping. <...> > I have the keyboard already available to me, in XP, and I would > only need to learn which letter is where ;) That's true, but it's surely easier to type the letters "zban farsi" (PerScript on a QWERTY kbd) than "cfhk thvsX" (I think that's roughly what you would have to type using the MS Farsi kbd: miraculously, the letter Sin is generated by the S key!). It all depends on how familiar you already are with the QWERTY kbd, I suppose. PerScript also simplifies typing the different letters for H, T, S and Z: for example you simply type z, Z, z\ and Z\ for Ze, Zad, Zal & Za. Another important benefit of PerScript is that it can generate an automatic hidden transliteration of utf-8 Persian text on webpages: this makes editing the HTML source code much easier, since you can see at a glance where you are in the text. The same technique is available in PerScribe (the MS Word program for W 98): the example we've chosen is a well-known beyt from Sa`di, which was included in a message addressed to Persian-speakers in outer space (see, or should I say hear, the audio link at: http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/pers_web.htm With Windows 98 it seems to me that you have to use something like the PerScript approach, or Jon D.'s converter, since Farsi support isn't available. Nigel ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
[farsiweb] Persian input with US/European keyboard
Connie Bobroff of Wahington University has kindly suggested that I bring our ScriptMaster software products PerScript and PerScribe to the attention of list members who would like to type Farsi using a US/European OS. For most users, particularly those with Windows XP or Windows 2000, **PerScript** is more appropriate. It allows you to type (more or less!) phonetically right-to-left in a text box. The [Unicode] Persian text can then be saved as HTML or, if your system has Farsi-language support, pasted into Word for further processing. For more details and an online demo, please see: http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/perscript.htm If you are running Windows 98 you can still use PerScript to generate HTML -- but you won't be able to use Word (for example, Word 97) for further processing. If you really want to produce a Persian document in Word you will have to use our other product, **PerScribe**, which is a bit more complicated and in effect "tricks" Word into displaying Persian correctly. The .doc file will print out correctly, but may look strange if viewed with a WXP/W2K system. For details, please see: http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/perscribe.htm I would be happy to answer any questions about these programs. Nigel ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
