Fedora Edu Spin Poster/broucher
Hi, Sorry for the last request! Appreaciate if I could find a broucher on Fedora Education Spin. Tomorrow (16th March / GMT +5.30) I will attending to a IT exbition for school children. We are going to demonostrate both Fedora Edu Spin as well as Fedora (Genaric release.) + FEL. Regards, -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banners and splashes
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic. I'm betting the cloudy sky (with or without birds, depending on the number of color gradients needed) would work OK... The constraint with GRUB is 14 colors (16 if counting also black and white), there is no way we can use a photorealistic image with that. Probably a blue background and a drawing of some birds or clouds. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
Jeff Spaleta wrote: To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. We played a bit with Cambridge cultural elements but it didn't get further than some preliminary concepts (and of course someone complained about a visible church). I think cultural references are good and personally consider pushing myself chocolate as a cultural reference for F12. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
Máirín Duffy wrote: Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): I don't like this particular photo: - from a compositional point of view, it is correct, with the land at 1/3 of the screen, but id does not tell me anything; - the colors are dull, the land is brown (tan?), not green to show life and the water is too gray. - the resolution of 1600x1200 is not enough. Too bad Smolt is not giving any statistics about display sizes, but I expect a lot of people would need to scale it up. And even viewed at 100%, the photo lack details. If we are going with this approach, I think we may need to search for a better photo. http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. If we take the temple out, then the result may be a bit to close to the Windows XP default wallpaper but with mountains instead of a hill. Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . Back when we started talking about landscape photography I did extensive search on Flickr and was not able to find something to like with Mount Olympus -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 19:21 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . Thanks ~m Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on too many elements at once. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:30:58AM +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 19:21 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . Thanks ~m Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on too many elements at once. That's not a bad idea if the desire is to reduce the number of elements and simplify the background. Maybe losing the birds would be something to consider too. All right, I'll put in a bit of critique here, noting that overall I like the theme and the care which was put into it. I confess, I am one of those people with a messy Desktop in the computer sense. (OK, you caught me, I have a messy desk in the real-life sense too. Oh, the shame!) So I tend to hit problems with icons and/or their labels clashing with backgrounds easily. But I wouldn't put myself out there as an average user, because I suspect many people keep an emptier Desktop than I do. I found that in my use case, the following elements tend to make it more difficult to discern text labels on icons: (1) birds, (2) the particular coloration and brightness of the sky, especially around the middle third of the picture. Interestingly, toward the bottom third of the picture, even though that is where some people complain about clutter, this problem goes away completely -- probably because the picture's quite darker there, so the white text of the icon labels shows up easier. To be fair, this could also indicate that I need more or better shadowing on icon text, so that it shows up well even on a medium-bright background area. That's not the Artwork team's problem AFAICT, but I don't know an easy way of adjusting it. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpgiIoxnGElS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
- Original Message From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on too many elements at once. This feedback is really useful. I'm a little disappointed that I didn't see any feedback like this on the list when the wallpaper was first posted over a week ago. (Did I simply miss it?) I am wondering what we should be doing in order to get this feedback in a more timely manner so we have more time to take it into account. Also, I just wanted to make it really clear that if anyone has the time to step in and help out with the wallpaper it would be very deeply appreciated. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
sorry to bother ... but i'm a bit confused now ... what are the final key elements for the beckground now? P.S: i am willing to give a shot on helping with the design (if i have an idea about what we are aiming for). ~hish 2009/3/16 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com - Original Message From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on too many elements at once. This feedback is really useful. I'm a little disappointed that I didn't see any feedback like this on the list when the wallpaper was first posted over a week ago. (Did I simply miss it?) I am wondering what we should be doing in order to get this feedback in a more timely manner so we have more time to take it into account. Also, I just wanted to make it really clear that if anyone has the time to step in and help out with the wallpaper it would be very deeply appreciated. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
Hi Hish! what are the final key elements for the beckground now? P.S: i am willing to give a shot on helping with the design (if i have an idea about what we are aiming for). Great to hear from you! I'm not sure what the final elements should be. It does seem we have too many, though - my suggestion would be: - field - mountains - clouds Any other elements should be removed for the next iteration, and the mountains should probably be the center of attention / main focus, the fields and clouds playing a supporting role. What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
hi mo ^_^ k .. got the idea .. will c wt i can do .. regards. ~hish 2009/3/16 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com Hi Hish! what are the final key elements for the beckground now? P.S: i am willing to give a shot on helping with the design (if i have an idea about what we are aiming for). Great to hear from you! I'm not sure what the final elements should be. It does seem we have too many, though - my suggestion would be: - field - mountains - clouds Any other elements should be removed for the next iteration, and the mountains should probably be the center of attention / main focus, the fields and clouds playing a supporting role. What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Eng. Hisham Isam M. Abdel-Magid Civil Infrastructures Engineer Dar Al-Handasah Consultants (Shair and Partners) P.O.Box: 40358 Mobile: +974 5042547 - +974 5543080 E.mail: hisham.abdelma...@dargroup.com Websites: www.dargroup.com - www.thepearlqatar.com Fedora Ambassador in Sudan and Qatar, E.mail: hi...@fedoraproject.org wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Himam ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
fedora security
here is a concept for fedora security spin. it is only a silhouette at the moment. seeing what you all think of the shape. I think it has a very strong shape. It might be a bit cliche but distinctly recognizable as a silhouette or anything else. you can add or remove detail from and use it on a button, letterhead ect https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Oldkeysecurity.svg Get the world#39;s best email - http://nz.mail.yahoo.com/___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: fedora security
brian hurren wrote: here is a concept for fedora security spin. it is only a silhouette at the moment. seeing what you all think of the shape. I think it has a very strong shape. It might be a bit cliche but distinctly recognizable as a silhouette or anything else. you can add or remove detail from and use it on a button, letterhead ect https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Oldkeysecurity.svg Ultimately the cusotmer (in our case the Security SIG) has the decision, but I would like the teeth (this is correct in English?) to be larger, even if oversized, to make it clear this is a key. And for fedora you will use the wordmark and for security the MgOpen-Modata font, right? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banners and splashes
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an expert in Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar. Charlie, maybe you could drop some wisdom here and/or on the wiki. That would give more people a chance to learn how the stunning Solar theme was produced for Plymouth. Never fails to get a whistle or a cool! out of someone who's seen it... /me envisions birds flying, or clouds drifting over landscape... Sorry for the late reply. So currently the plugins are rather complicated to create as there are plenty of holes to fall down. I could write a few words but what I think would be better atm is to work it from the other side (i.e. make plugins really easy to make). What I would like to do is to make a customisable plugin which has an interprited script which allows very easy changes of what it does. The script specifies the image locations and what movements the images take every frame. Should be simple enough that non-programmers can do it. Over Christmas I did get somewhere towards this but this wont be complete for a few months. In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. The birds flying away is easy to do (like [2]) but I will wait till the background settles down and there is a common demand for something in particular (send suggestions and if people agree I will put it in). [1] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/ [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7NqQ30KfAo#t=6m28s ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
help with wallpaper
exactly what kind of help? Get the world#39;s best email - http://nz.mail.yahoo.com/___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
- Original Message From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Blame Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me think about it and you've read the result :-D Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. :( ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: help with wallpaper
exactly what kind of help? For some reason I'm not able to find the thread that you're replying to, but if you are interested in helping out with the wallpaper we can use: 1 - detailed critique 2 - help in sourcing appropriately-licensed reference and source photographs (CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, public domain, GNU documentation license are all acceptable licenses) 3 - help in iterating the wallpaper (the files are at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 11:25 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Original Message From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Blame Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me think about it and you've read the result :-D Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. :( Not sure this was needed... But having it in release definitely helps a lot. Naturally, we cannot see everything ourselves, but the feedback from people outside of the Art Team can be the push (like with Matthias). I hope more mails will pour in after the Beta is released to public ;-) Come to think of it, it would be really great to have it in Alpha already, but seeing how we are always late with schedule (note that I'm also at fault here for not helping with the actual art)... But I think the new process of creating the art also contributed a bit to us not being exactly fastest this release... I'm sure next release will be better (unless we change the process again). Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: We played a bit with Cambridge cultural elements but it didn't get further than some preliminary concepts (and of course someone complained about a visible church). I think cultural references are good and personally consider pushing myself chocolate as a cultural reference for F12. Crap, sorry. I didn't realize there was a pre-existing discussion that spoke to this. Sorry for bringing it to the list's attention then. -jef ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 08:38:44PM +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 11:25 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Original Message From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Blame Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me think about it and you've read the result :-D Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. :( Not sure this was needed... But having it in release definitely helps a lot. Naturally, we cannot see everything ourselves, but the feedback from people outside of the Art Team can be the push (like with Matthias). I hope more mails will pour in after the Beta is released to public ;-) Come to think of it, it would be really great to have it in Alpha already, but seeing how we are always late with schedule (note that I'm also at fault here for not helping with the actual art)... But I think the new process of creating the art also contributed a bit to us not being exactly fastest this release... I'm sure next release will be better (unless we change the process again). Actually, from what I could see release-over-release, this time around the Artwork team has done its best job ever of meeting a self-imposed schedule, including having a theme iterated during the early part of the cycle, producing promo Alpha and Beta banners for the web site, soliciting backgrounds, and getting one included in the Beta release. I think this team's doing a spectacular job. Nevertheless, more hands are good, and I encourage you to get involved as much as you can! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpTRQPZwXnYU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
Máirín Duffy wrote: Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . Thanks ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Hello all, newbie to fedora-art-list here. :) I don't currently have any time on my hands to contribute any mock-ups or artwork, unfortunately. In the meantime, I wanted to offer constructive criticism and ideas. Following the current thread, I think that the direction of going for a landscape/photo-realistic wallpaper is going to be prohibitively difficult. I foresee problems with the wallpaper clashing with desktop icons due to the amount of detail required by a landscape. It will also be difficult to reconcile this theme with the, likely, more benign overall Fedora theme/icons/details. I think Fedora 7's theme is as close as anyone could really get to a highly detailed, yet not obstructive, theme. To suggest (another) alternative direction, has anyone explored employing a more subtle reference to Greek culture? I think there should be a lot of resources to pull from in this line of thought - there are many patterns/themes that could be built upon from Greek culture, for example: http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2hl=ensafe=offq=greek+patternbtnG=Search+Images Using such patterns as a guideline, it could be possible for someone to come up with a more abstract-style wallpaper (a la Fedora 8) that, while not necessarily beating the user over the head with Greek culture, could still subtly carry the Leonidas/Greek reference/theme/inspiration. I have some ideas of what this might look like, but as I said, no time. :( Anyway, good luck in your efforts and I look forward to the finished product! I will try to offer criticism/opinions/ideas whenever possible. -- Justin Fuhrer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new direction for the wallpaper
2009/3/16 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com: Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. That sounds like a job for me. -jef ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banners and splashes
Charlie Brej wrote: In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the background in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now which I personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll get the progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of each segment progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them together and ripple their actions. [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo1.png [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo2.png [3] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo_progress.gif ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
