Re: FUDCon Berlin 2009
Max Spevack wrote: I'd love to use FUDCon Berlin to really show off the coolness of the Fedora Art team, and to provide our EMEA crew with some reusable resources for future FUDCons in the region, as well as some stuff that we can use for the F11 release, and then auction off or something :) Here is a crazy and not easily reusable idea (if the graphic is not clear enough - a cardboard painted with the Leonidas guy and having a hole cut in it, so people can stick their faces and have a photo taken): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/painted-cardboard.png I am trying to develop a story for my comic around it but wondered how crazy would be to have such a physical thing. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
New Concept for F11 King
Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg Thanks for the attention. Samuele Reference info: Rust texture comes from: http://www.lostandtaken.com/search/label/rust you can download it and use it for free. The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two The Lion's photo it's a CC resources that I've found on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tambako/494118044/ Thanks to author for gaving me the possibility to use the image. You can find he's profile here: http://www.flickr.com/people/tambako/ -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Simply WOW! I also like the idea of a lion or something that has more to do with the word "Leonidas" than with ancient greek culture. Nice work! I'd only change the colors of the lion towards...more blue for fedora? i don't really know, but at this point it looks a little bit too dirty i think. Not like a desktop background that is more static and calm... And also the birds shouldn't be there for my taste - or at least have another color. What about making the Lions hair less detailed, change his color a little bit, erase those birds...and for the background maybe we'll find some more greek things? On the other hand those lines make it more like Leonidas in the 21st ceentury - adding a more modern touch to it (don't forgert: these are nerdy times with a lot of technology.) -- Justus ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi guys, > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing > you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors > about "Windows-like" layout. > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from > Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? > > This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and > the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". > > I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I wanted > to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. > > If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this > release. > > I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. > > You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg > > Thanks for the attention. > > Samuele Hi Samuele, I'm not sure if it is OK to go at this point with a conceptually completely new theme but still your design looks awesome. I have only a few to point out: * The circles at the left side seem to be a little strange, also since fedora's default layout has some icons on the left part of the screen it would be nice to have the wallpaper in that part less cluttered * I think the birds, or whatever they are, are unnecessary -- the main concern with the current wallpaper is that it concentrates on too many motives at once, I think this apply on this one as well * I'd perhaps remove the stripes over the lion As for whether it is OK to use this concept for F11, I'd leave the answer to Mo. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi guys, > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, > seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a > lot of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas > come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? > > This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king > and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". > > I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I > wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. > > If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for > this release. > > I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. Really a good work!! :) The concept is completely different but this new subject is really effective and awesome! :) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 He that would govern others, first should be the master of himself. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Le vendredi 27 mars 2009 à 15:10 +0100, Luca Foppiano a écrit : > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: ... > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas > > come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? > > > > This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king > > and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". ... > Really a good work!! :) > The concept is completely different but this new subject is really > effective and awesome! :) I like it very much... :D ++ -- Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er) French fedora ambassador opossum...@fedoraproject.org GPG fingerprint : 1E38 D153 476F C831 0CF6 0A6A 2E7A 992F 8958 8851 signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi Samuele, - Original Message > From: Samuele Storari > To: fedora-art-list > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:32:33 AM > Subject: New Concept for F11 King > > Hi guys, > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing > you > a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors > about > "Windows-like" layout. > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from > Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This looks really great. There are a couple problems though: - We are *really* late in the schedule right now, and we had already made a decision, based on our survey, to go with a landscape depicting Greece so we have a number of mockups and work around that concept already. While I don't think it's completely out of the question to change course at this point, we will definitely need a commitment of help from you in getting some mockups for the other elements, e.g. some of the splash screens, etc. Can you give us that commitment and help us meet our deadlines in spite of a change in direction? - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Thanks, ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Friday 27 March 2009 14:07:26 Martin Sourada wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, > > seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot > > of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. > > > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come > > from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? > > > > This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king > > and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". > > > > I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I > > wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. > > > > If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for > > this release. > > > > I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. > > > > You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg > > > > Thanks for the attention. > > > > Samuele > > Hi Samuele, > > I'm not sure if it is OK to go at this point with a conceptually > completely new theme but still your design looks awesome. I have only a > few to point out: > * The circles at the left side seem to be a little strange, also > since fedora's default layout has some icons on the left part of > the screen it would be nice to have the wallpaper in that part > less cluttered +1 Same as actual Leonidas wallpaper it's maybe too overcomplicated for icons and widgets. Samule, could you redesign it? Simple, clean left side in opposite to rich right one? But it's really nice design! Maybe won't be default one, I let decision on artwork team ;-), but I'll add it to my wallpapers collection... It's nearly time to have final one... Jaroslav > * I think the birds, or whatever they are, are unnecessary -- the > main concern with the current wallpaper is that it concentrates > on too many motives at once, I think this apply on this one as > well > * I'd perhaps remove the stripes over the lion > > As for whether it is OK to use this concept for F11, I'd leave the > answer to Mo. > > Martin -- Jaroslav Řezník Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
- Original Message > From: Máirín Duffy > - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please > provide > references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Oh, I found the references, sorry for that. The lion picture has a clause that I just want to double check is okay: "Please note that my pictures are under the Creative Commons license. You are free to use them in any commercial or non-commercial application, but please send me a message if you used or plan on using any of my pictures, especially for commercial purposes. Thanks in advance." If he *requires* notice of commercial usage, it may pose a problem for Fedora resellers, I'll discuss this with Fedora legal to make sure and perhaps we can talk to the photographer and get his okay if it would be an issue. The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license that's acceptable for Fedora: http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submitted-textures-jeff-foster.html Same problem with the spray brushes. The license isn't explicit. "Free" can mean a lot of things and not all of them involve the kind of free we need, unfortunately. I can try to contact them as well. http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two In the future, it would save a lot of work and heartache to make sure we use work that has explicitly approved licenses. When someone says something like, "hey guys here u go it's free have it!" it unfortunately does not count as an explicit license in our pre-approved list, so we have to go to Fedora legal on a case-by-case basis and many times contact the authors themselves (who are not always responsive or even reachable) to clarify the situation. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: [...] > The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two those brushes are released with this licence: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html I think it's ok to use it :) What do you think? Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 An exotic journey in downtown Newark is in your future. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luca Foppiano a écrit : | | those brushes are released with this licence: | | http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html | | I think it's ok to use it :) | | What do you think? | | Luca Never heard that license before. I wonder if it is GPL or CC compatible. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknNFHcACgkQa10Jb0NOz+EjTACfUeq7J8Beug4iYiBbit8ffBJZ w4AAoIlI/voQpcxPN5ZY1EMojLwQw96e =Lgi0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Samuele Storari a écrit : | Hi guys, | | I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. | | So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? | | This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". | | I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. | | If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. | | I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. | | You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): | | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg | Very interesting wallpaper. Like other people, I wonder if it is a bit late for Fedora 11 Leonidas as default. Tweaking the existing version from F11 Beta is the way to go. Otherwise, That King wallpaper should be included once licenses have been verified. *Graphic Design course is finally completed. Yay!* - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknNFcAACgkQa10Jb0NOz+ERzgCgrV5flqo0dC9Q2pYncaL+qctD LD8AoJGy6K60zsYjYYyL1o+kNtigJqA2 =0qXy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:50:49PM +0100, Luca Foppiano wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: > > [...] > > The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: > > > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one > > > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two > > those brushes are released with this licence: > > http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html > > I think it's ok to use it :) > > What do you think? IANAL, but that reads to me as if it has a non-commerical use clause. It first references that it is under the CC BY, which is on the "good license" list for Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses_3 ... but then the page goes on to specify: "You can NOT sell the resources directly for profit (eg. Selling the items on stock resource websites)" Note that the license called out first does not have any non-commercial use clauses: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/uk/ ... but because they have the right to add additional clauses, and appear to have done so, it seems as if they made their redistribution require non-commercial use. Anyway, they encourage us to ask: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/contact So you might want to get that clarified that they mean to add an additional non-commercial use clause. FWIW, the second clause about not copying the website makes sense to me. The website is a separate from the individual graphic elements, and might even have trademark restrictions, etc. This doesn't seem to put any clauses on the individual resources being licensed. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 pgpBqWAAouHs7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:39:41AM -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: > - Original Message > > From: Máirín Duffy > > - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you > > please provide references for your source images before uploading > > artwork to the wiki? > > Oh, I found the references, sorry for that. > > The lion picture has a clause that I just want to double check is > okay: > > "Please note that my pictures are under the Creative Commons > license. You are free to use them in any commercial or > non-commercial application, but please send me a message if you used > or plan on using any of my pictures, especially for commercial > purposes. Thanks in advance." > > If he *requires* notice of commercial usage, it may pose a problem > for Fedora resellers, I'll discuss this with Fedora legal to make > sure and perhaps we can talk to the photographer and get his okay if > it would be an issue. The way this license reads, the author is asking (note "please") for a contact, but it's not required as it would be had he used the wording "but you must send me a message...". This doesn't conflict with his clear statement that the recipient is free to use the picture in any application. > The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to > contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license > that's acceptable for Fedora: > > http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submitted-textures-jeff-foster.html > > Same problem with the spray brushes. The license isn't > explicit. "Free" can mean a lot of things and not all of them > involve the kind of free we need, unfortunately. I can try to > contact them as well. > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two The licensing statements for the freebies on the site are kept here: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html Quoting: ''' You Can: * Use the resources in your personal work, in whole or part. * Use the resources in your commercial work, in whole or part. * Modify the work to your personal preference. * Share the resources with others, under the following terms: o Link to the resource webpage, not the download file. o Use an excerpt from the webpage if necessary (don’t copy * the full article and display it on your site) You Can Not: * You can NOT sell the resources directly for profit (eg. Selling the items on stock resource websites) * You can NOT copy the full webpage and display it on your own website. (Use an excerpt by all means, but please link to the original resource download page – not the actual file.) ''' The part that bothers me about these licensing texts is the statement of terms for sharing: it is unclear about whether you *must* link to his resource web page. It would be much better for the author to use a standard license such as CC-BY-SA or some other more appropriate license, not something he's written himself. > In the future, it would save a lot of work and heartache to make > sure we use work that has explicitly approved licenses. When someone > says something like, "hey guys here u go it's free have it!" it > unfortunately does not count as an explicit license in our > pre-approved list, so we have to go to Fedora legal on a > case-by-case basis and many times contact the authors themselves > (who are not always responsive or even reachable) to clarify the > situation. +1. Especially when there is not much in the way of time or resources free, having to do all this is a real drag, and gets in the way of creating and promoting beautiful art and design. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpsZMotuN5Kq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 07:39 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: > The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to > contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license > that's acceptable for Fedora: > > http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submit This is the reply to my asking about possibility to use his resource: " Hey Luca, It's good to hear from you! The textures you linked to are actually copyright-free, so you can do whatever you like with them. All of the textures I give away are available for commercial and personal uses, without attribution required. Glad you find the textures useful and if you need anything else just let me know. Caleb " Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 The Usenet news is out of date ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
