Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 01:01 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> Martin Sourada a écrit : 
> > 
> > > So +1 from me
> > > 
> > > There is still a minor observation: in the 256x256 version it looks like 
> > > the small gear is not on the same plane with the other, like it is a bit 
> > > backward, so maybe raise it a bit (overlap more the two gears).
> > > 
> > > 
> > Hm... I didn't want the gears to touch, and being slightly apart, it
> > creates the unwanted effect of not being on the same plane...
> > 
> >   
> Tweaked both huge and large icons by sightly spacing both gears. There
> were no much to do with
> other sizes. Feedback welcome.
> 
Looks good to me. No further comments.

> Luya
> 
Martin




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Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-25 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 12:52 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Having the second gear smaller is a suggestion I wanted to make but I 
> was shy about it: it was late in the discuss and I may sound much like a 
> whiner which contribute only with words and no actual work to the icon 
> set...
> 
Don't be shy about that. Suggestions and comments are also welcome
contribution, if you are not confident enough to draw the icons
yourself :-)

> So +1 from me
> 
> There is still a minor observation: in the 256x256 version it looks like 
> the small gear is not on the same plane with the other, like it is a bit 
> backward, so maybe raise it a bit (overlap more the two gears).
> 
Hm... I didn't want the gears to touch, and being slightly apart, it
creates the unwanted effect of not being on the same plane...

> > Reference:
> > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/system-run.svg
> 
> 
Martin


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Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-25 Thread Nicu Buculei

Martin Sourada wrote:

I wasn't still happy about it so I decided to redo it from scratch. The
sprockets are now distributed evenly and the top gear is smaller. It's
still not there yet I think, but I leave the rest of the tweaking for
you.


Having the second gear smaller is a suggestion I wanted to make but I 
was shy about it: it was late in the discuss and I may sound much like a 
whiner which contribute only with words and no actual work to the icon 
set...


So +1 from me

There is still a minor observation: in the 256x256 version it looks like 
the small gear is not on the same plane with the other, like it is a bit 
backward, so maybe raise it a bit (overlap more the two gears).



Reference:
http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/system-run.svg



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Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:29 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> Added a second gear.
That works better.

> I forgot to shrink outline to 2px which has been addressed.
> Done for 16x16. Need to see how it looks on other screen.
> 
Might need some more touches, the other sizes are looking crisp, but the
16x16 is a little bit hard to recognise.

> Luya
> 
Further comments to this version:
The gradients are a bit strange, I think both gears should use same
gradients, rather metallic than grey. Also the side face should have
different gradient - one the top of the gear it should be similarly
bright as the front face I think to better follow the lighting
guidelines. 

The connection of the two grears is a little off, it's noticeable only
on the 256x256 and slightly on 48x48 version. The shadow below the
second gear should be more transparent, since the gear is higher. You
might want to make the top-right gear smaller than the bottom left one,
I think it would look better.

Martin



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Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-24 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 03:04 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> system-run is an action icon hence the use of table perspective
> following the guideline.
> It is derived from emblem-system, one gear is used instead of three like
> some other icon theme.
> 16x16 and 22x22 should be crisp enough. Comment welcome.

The angle looks a little strange (it looks like it's falling over
towards the left), teeth 1, 4, and 5 (counting clockwise from the top)
look the wrong size/shape (shape, shape, and size respectively), and the
gaps between teeth 2 and 3 and teeth 6 and 7 seem too wide. But I'm
picky.

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Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 03:04 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> system-run is an action icon hence the use of table perspective
> following the guideline.
> It is derived from emblem-system, one gear is used instead of three like
> some other icon theme.
> 16x16 and 22x22 should be crisp enough. Comment welcome.
> 
> Luya
> 
> Reference:
> http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/actions/

The icon looks generally good (and crisp), but I have some comments.
First the metaphor - can you try to fit there more than one gear? Or
maybe you could try similar metaphor like oxygen theme uses (gear with
"play" symbol inside). The current single gear variant looks IMHO too
much like settings or something... 

Next is 256x256 version - you might want to redo the 3-D part to make it
look more echoey. Just take the front face and redo the rest and it
should be fine I think. I mostly don't like the outline around the hole
and you should use 1px wide (or if it's just the outline and bellow all
other objects, 2px wide because only half of the width is actually
visible) semitransparent outline to keep in sync with other new icons.

Finally, the shadow - in 22x22 it is too small and in 32x32 it seem a
little bit off. You can use similar shadow I used for the go-* icons or
the dialog-* icons.

It should be possible to make the gears both smaller and still
recognisable by reducing number of sprockets.

Martin


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