Re: Fedora Mascot
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:20:04PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is against having one. Not even a cuddly-wuddly Fedora ferret, with a first name starting with an F? Nicu could draw him in various costumes, little tshirts, or mittens in the winter. I thought you were all about the lemurs, now it's ferrets? Anyway, the answer is NO, Spevack! Now go pay some attention to your cat, whom you're probably ignoring so you can troll us ;-D I think this will settle the debate about pets as mascot: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/04/i-can-has-mascot.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: 2009/4/2 Paul W. Frields A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is against having one. I disagree with you.. most cases our brand is symbolized with our logo & our Trademark name.. mascot is just for familiarizing our product line... Angel, all the Mascot effort happened back when the fedora logo was restricted for use and part of it took place when it was also ugly (before we had the "infinity bubble"). These days I still have to receive the complaints about the T-shirts of the characters used in my comic... We can have different icon for each of our product line or we can have different mascot for our product line... More than one mascot? That's overkill. Brand is something else it can not be disillusioned by mascot While I think the impact of a mascot on the branding would not be so damaging, I consider our previous effort about mascots a failure, people didn't want them. No wonder people don't know much about our Fedora code Name while everyone you ask knows the Code name of Ubuntu even better... (like jaunty hardy gutsy etc...), believe it or not, it´s true. Because, Ubuntu make the Code name their mascot. People know a little about the Fedora code name because we have not pushed it, until a few years ago it was kind of an Easter-egg, known only by a few. Ubuntu have to push code names because their numbering scheme is rather unusual (9.04???) However, I'm sure large part of "Fedora Community" people will think of these as threat to our brand Name Fedora. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
2009/4/2 Paul W. Frields > > A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is > against having one. > I disagree with you.. most cases our brand is symbolized with our logo & our Trademark name.. mascot is just for familiarizing our product line... We can have different icon for each of our product line or we can have different mascot for our product line... Brand is something else it can not be disillusioned by mascot No wonder people don't know much about our Fedora code Name while everyone you ask knows the Code name of Ubuntu even better... (like jaunty hardy gutsy etc...), believe it or not, it´s true. Because, Ubuntu make the Code name their mascot. However, I'm sure large part of "Fedora Community" people will think of these as threat to our brand Name Fedora. -- Angel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel 0DF8 3CD4 AFE3 68C6 2CDA 9F17 14B8 1A15 E5F7 73C2 Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
wonderer wrote: Hy there, A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is against having one. Not even a cuddly-wuddly Fedora ferret, with a first name starting with an F? Nicu could draw him in various costumes, little tshirts, or mittens in the winter. Max, I did not know what drugs you are consuming right now, but ... could you send me some boxes of them ;-) Anyway, I also did not think we need such thing. Ok, it would be nice to see max, paul, etc. in some cute animal costumes ... on the other hand, NO! Please pull out this stupid crazy thoughts out of my head. Give me some more chocolate-beer to forget these... :) I think the Linux community has enough pet-based Distros. Let us be a bit more innovative and stay serious... or just try :) Faithfully submitted, Max Spevack Ex-FPL and Level 50 Troll Ok, I will think about some PR lines about THAT ... mit freundlichen Gr��en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonde...@fedoraproject.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I stand by my claim that Max and Paul in cheerleader outfits would be ideal for a mascot... wait, nevermind, I forgot they are just the fedora art team's biggest fans. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
Hy there, > >> A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is >> against having one. > > Not even a cuddly-wuddly Fedora ferret, with a first name starting > with an F? Nicu could draw him in various costumes, little tshirts, > or mittens in the winter. Max, I did not know what drugs you are consuming right now, but ... could you send me some boxes of them ;-) Anyway, I also did not think we need such thing. Ok, it would be nice to see max, paul, etc. in some cute animal costumes ... on the other hand, NO! Please pull out this stupid crazy thoughts out of my head. Give me some more chocolate-beer to forget these... :) I think the Linux community has enough pet-based Distros. Let us be a bit more innovative and stay serious... or just try :) > > Faithfully submitted, > Max Spevack > > Ex-FPL and Level 50 Troll Ok, I will think about some PR lines about THAT ... mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonde...@fedoraproject.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
Actually I like the idea of Fedora Ferret. They're very intelligent and fast learning creatures. -Jere Samuli Perttula- 2009/4/2 María Leandro : > All af you only want me to do a ferret on blender u_U > > (maybe tomorrow I could finish it :P ) > > > > 2009/4/3 Max Spevack : >> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> >>> I thought you were all about the lemurs, now it's ferrets? Anyway, the >>> answer is NO, Spevack! Now go pay some attention to your cat, whom you're >>> probably ignoring so you can troll us ;-D >> >> Just so you know, I'm doing my weasel war dance, and you are the target, >> Frields. >> >> SPART! >> >> ___ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list@redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
All af you only want me to do a ferret on blender u_U (maybe tomorrow I could finish it :P ) 2009/4/3 Max Spevack : > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> I thought you were all about the lemurs, now it's ferrets? Anyway, the >> answer is NO, Spevack! Now go pay some attention to your cat, whom you're >> probably ignoring so you can troll us ;-D > > Just so you know, I'm doing my weasel war dance, and you are the target, > Frields. > > SPART! > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: I thought you were all about the lemurs, now it's ferrets? Anyway, the answer is NO, Spevack! Now go pay some attention to your cat, whom you're probably ignoring so you can troll us ;-D Just so you know, I'm doing my weasel war dance, and you are the target, Frields. SPART! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:20:04PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is >> against having one. > > Not even a cuddly-wuddly Fedora ferret, with a first name starting with > an F? Nicu could draw him in various costumes, little tshirts, or > mittens in the winter. I thought you were all about the lemurs, now it's ferrets? Anyway, the answer is NO, Spevack! Now go pay some attention to your cat, whom you're probably ignoring so you can troll us ;-D -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpgbznUhQouA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is against having one. Not even a cuddly-wuddly Fedora ferret, with a first name starting with an F? Nicu could draw him in various costumes, little tshirts, or mittens in the winter. We could sponsor ferrets at pet stores around the world. We could have users submit pictures of their own ferrets running "yum update" and submitting bugs. According to wikipedia, ferrets are energetic, curious, and have a "repetoire of behaviors both endearing and difficult". Just like most of the Fedora community! Then there's this: "When ferrets are excited, they may perform a routine commonly referred to as the weasel war dance, a frenzied series of sideways hops. This is often accompanied by a soft clucking noise, commonly referred to as dooking." I'm picturing a session at a future FUDCon in which we have people do their own weasel war dance. In conclusion, who wouldn't want a little critter like this teaching you all about how to set up a virtual machine, or popping his head out from behind PackageKit to tell you to update? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Female_ferret_Emily_cinnamon_color.jpg/160px-Female_ferret_Emily_cinnamon_color.jpg Faithfully submitted, Max Spevack Ex-FPL and Level 50 Troll ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
I just don't have work at the office u_U http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/star-fedora.jpg 2009/4/3 inode0 : > 2009/4/2 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : >> Hi, >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot . >> Is there any possibility of a new mascot based on recent versions of Fedora? >> What I have seen, last mascot was the Warewolf (based on Fedora 8 codenamed >> Warewolf). > > I'm so partial to a more general mascot that conveys something about > our values like something based on one of these guys maybe > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Blue_starfish.JPG > > John > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:56:29PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: >> Hi, >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot . >> Is there any possibility of a new mascot based on recent versions of >> Fedora? What I have seen, last mascot was the Warewolf (based on Fedora >> 8 codenamed Warewolf). > > We never had a real mascot, the Werewolf was just an unofficial drawing > made by me. > > The general opinion of the larger community was that we don't need a > mascot, so we didn't pursue the effort. A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is against having one. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgp2umATES7jt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: Hi, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot . Is there any possibility of a new mascot based on recent versions of Fedora? What I have seen, last mascot was the Warewolf (based on Fedora 8 codenamed Warewolf). We never had a real mascot, the Werewolf was just an unofficial drawing made by me. The general opinion of the larger community was that we don't need a mascot, so we didn't pursue the effort. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
I tried to avoid talking about the pagan ideas behind some artworks but do we really need a Mascot The term mascot – defined as a term for any person, animal, or object thought to bring luck[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascot don't you have minds, those things are useless they don't bring any luck and you know it why do you pretend to be pagans in the 21th century ? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot
2009/4/2 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : > Hi, > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot . > Is there any possibility of a new mascot based on recent versions of Fedora? > What I have seen, last mascot was the Warewolf (based on Fedora 8 codenamed > Warewolf). I'm so partial to a more general mascot that conveys something about our values like something based on one of these guys maybe http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Blue_starfish.JPG John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Mascot
Hi, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot . Is there any possibility of a new mascot based on recent versions of Fedora? What I have seen, last mascot was the Warewolf (based on Fedora 8 codenamed Warewolf). -- Angel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel 0DF8 3CD4 AFE3 68C6 2CDA 9F17 14B8 1A15 E5F7 73C2 Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot?
We could use the Transfinite (aleph) numbers instead of infinity. this is a description of a set with an infinite number of members. Ordinary vanilla flavored infinity. (aleph null) A description of a continuum which is the next level beyond infinity is(aleph one) this is a description of the aleph number set an infinite amount of infinity, hyperinfinity. this is a description of a continuum. anyway, we could use the aleph symbol maybe as a wallpaper. or we could name future releases of Fedora as a sequence of aleph (transfinite) numbers Fedora 10. Pavel Shevchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People's operating system is Ubuntu, that would be ripoff 2008/4/5 brian hurren : > There is another interpretation for the number 10. In the bible it > represents 'all' or 'everyone' or 'everything' so where it says ten > kings it means all of the kings ect. maybe fedora ten is for 'everyone' the > peoples operating system. > > David wrote: > > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.<>___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot?
People's operating system is Ubuntu, that would be ripoff 2008/4/5 brian hurren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is another interpretation for the number 10. In the bible it > represents 'all' or 'everyone' or 'everything' so where it says ten > kings it means all of the kings ect. maybe fedora ten is for 'everyone' the > peoples operating system. > > David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
RE: Fedora Mascot?
There is another interpretation for the number 10. In the bible it represents 'all' or 'everyone' or 'everything' so where it says ten kings it means all of the kings ect. maybe fedora ten is for 'everyone' the peoples operating system. David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
RE: Fedora Mascot?
fedora as a state in motion. that is a good idea. Talking heads ' houses in motion' what is in a constant state of motion? David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness"- Is a definition not a concept. The idea of 10 being what many view as the perfect score. A circle is perfect in every aspect. It can represent unity and continuation. I hope that the idea is merely viewed as that an idea to base inspiration. I understand that Fedora is a continuous work in progress, but it can also be displayed as better than the rest. Thanks for your feed back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavel Shevchuk Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:15 PM To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. Subject: Re: Fedora Mascot? I don't support state of completeness. Free Software is movement, Fedora is project in motion. Stopping and beholding perfectness is not what i expect from developers, being one of them. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM, David wrote: > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
RE: Fedora Mascot?
"Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness"- Is a definition not a concept. The idea of 10 being what many view as the perfect score. A circle is perfect in every aspect. It can represent unity and continuation. I hope that the idea is merely viewed as that an idea to base inspiration. I understand that Fedora is a continuous work in progress, but it can also be displayed as better than the rest. Thanks for your feed back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavel Shevchuk Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:15 PM To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. Subject: Re: Fedora Mascot? I don't support state of completeness. Free Software is movement, Fedora is project in motion. Stopping and beholding perfectness is not what i expect from developers, being one of them. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot?
I don't think Fedora will ever be "Perfect" given the fact that we're always "on the edge" and installing potentially unstable software. It's the price you pay to push innovation. David wrote: Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot?
I don't support state of completeness. Free Software is movement, Fedora is project in motion. Stopping and beholding perfectness is not what i expect from developers, being one of them. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
RE: Fedora Mascot?
Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot?
Frank Murphy wrote: Object: Fae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faerie Name: Dora Right place: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot Chance: low (in the paste people were not enthusiastic about a mascot) Me likes: maybe Things to avoid, short clothing, too much bare skin resemblance to Disney, tinkeybell et all. Things to include, some form of wand\stick. No sketch as yet. Just a thought -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Mascot?
Object: Fae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faerie Name: Dora Things to avoid, short clothing, too much bare skin resemblance to Disney, tinkeybell et all. Things to include, some form of wand\stick. No sketch as yet. Just a thought Frank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot Idea....
On Feb 8, 2008 12:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A interesting idea but not one I like. A variation of the Fedora logo > would have the same protections as the logo itself and leads to the same > issues we are trying to avoid by suggesting the use of a mascot that > lends itself to artistic freedoms and creative uses. Keep the mascot > completely separate from the logo. Or to put it another way... can you take your seahorse idea and rework it so that its not confusing with the logo? The other problem is.. we have a desktop application actually named.. seahorse. That's probably a reasonable reason to avoid using a seahorse as a mascot for Fedora. -jef"Is really tempted to drag out his scapegoat svg as offer it up for mascot consideration...again"spaleta ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot Idea....
Chad Bloem wrote: Fedora, I was looking at the Fedora WIKI page and I stumbled across the information regarding the need for a mascot. It mentioned that they wanted an animal design wrapped into the current icon. I slapped together an idea. Máirín Duffy was kind enough to suggest Inkscape (had to figure it out) to clean up the design and pointed me to these email addresses. Got it installed, played with it this afternoon. I have attached it as an SVG. A interesting idea but not one I like. A variation of the Fedora logo would have the same protections as the logo itself and leads to the same issues we are trying to avoid by suggesting the use of a mascot that lends itself to artistic freedoms and creative uses. Keep the mascot completely separate from the logo. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Mascot Idea....
Fedora, I was looking at the Fedora WIKI page and I stumbled across the information regarding the need for a mascot. It mentioned that they wanted an animal design wrapped into the current icon. I slapped together an idea. Máirín Duffy was kind enough to suggest Inkscape (had to figure it out) to clean up the design and pointed me to these email addresses. Got it installed, played with it this afternoon. I have attached it as an SVG. -Chad Bloem Raleigh, NC <>___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Project Mascot
Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: Hi people what is with a *Mascot project*? Is it closed without results (resume)? It seems like it quietly died due to lack of interest, both from the contributors and the general public. But it is not really dead, is like Sleeping Beauty, in a dormant state, it may get back to life someday if we get to the conclusion that we need or want a mascot (or have something so good looking that we can't stop using it). But, you know, Sleeping Beauty is a fairy tale... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Project Mascot
Hi people what is with a *Mascot project*? Is it closed without results (resume)? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot JJM -- I'm still learning English... Jiří Jakub Mašek - Mr Jiri Jakub Masek Moravia, Czech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fwd: Fedora Mascot - Blue Arara Idea
Antonio Menezes wrote: Another Blue Arara Image, for your evaluation: http://freeplone2.openia.com/teledev/imagens/blue_arara2.svg/download Why don't you use the fedoraproject.org wiki to upload those images? Is useful to have all the proposals in one place for easier comparison. Regarding your second proposal, if we will ever have a mascot, it will not make use of the logo in its original form (trademark policy). People may remix and add some logos in their own derivatives, but this is up to the individuals. PS: the server you are using does not use the right MIME type for SVG, it should be "image/svg+xml" -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fwd: Fedora Mascot - Blue Arara Idea
Another Blue Arara Image, for your evaluation: http://freeplone2.openia.com/teledev/imagens/blue_arara2.svg/download Regards, Antonio. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Mascot - Blue Arara Idea
I'd like to send you another version of Blue Arara Mascot for Fedora. The svg file can be found here: http://freeplone2.openia.com/teledev/imagens/blue_arara.svg/download It's just an idea. The bird was designed primarily from a "f" drawing... Regards, Antonio. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
María Leandro wrote: I think is a delicated issue. To pic a mascot, we "should" think about animals in danger of extinction, but this would unduly favour some of them. So when I made my propose, I was thinking not just of one, rather, of several, but to make a unique mascot that could be more symbolic. (don't wanna say USE MINE!.. just the idea...) What I hoped for was convergence: after a certain number of proposals are submitted, people start playing with and improving the images submitted by the other and when *a lot* of people converge on playing by their own will with one single mascot, we can be certain we found a winner. So, why don't we make a list of which animals are in danger of extinction and join them to make a new one? I am not sure, we can come with a *huge* list with endangered species but we have not solved anything until someone draw *cute* images of them. Also, some of those species may be not well known outside a certain geographical area (they are endangered) so people may ask: what is that? (but as an apposite argument, something less known is geekier and may appeal better to our current audience). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
I think is a delicated issue. To pic a mascot, we "should" think about animals in danger of extinction, but this would unduly favour some of them. So when I made my propose, I was thinking not just of one, rather, of several, but to make a unique mascot that could be more symbolic. (don't wanna say USE MINE!.. just the idea...) So, why don't we make a list of which animals are in danger of extinction and join them to make a new one? 2007/8/22, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Karel Boissinot wrote: > > Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I really suck at > > drawing things so I can't say I have made a sketch, but I got inspired > > looking at this picture: > > > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg > > > > The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings of a > butterfly. > > > > Anyway, just food for thought > > The thing is a mascot should not be centered around the logo, the > intention behind the mascot was to have it freely usable by anyone and > the logo is governed by trademark guidelines. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
Karel Boissinot wrote: Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I really suck at drawing things so I can't say I have made a sketch, but I got inspired looking at this picture: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings of a butterfly. Anyway, just food for thought The thing is a mascot should not be centered around the logo, the intention behind the mascot was to have it freely usable by anyone and the logo is governed by trademark guidelines. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 22:40 +0200, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 15:34 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > > I think what we need to do first is determine an animal or whatnot > > that symbolizes what Fedora is about. For instance, we always see owls > > as wise, and elephants as forgetful, etc. > > The problem with that is that such representations mean different things > in different cultures; finding something that has a neutral or positive > connotation in all cultures is difficult if not impossible. Yep, and furthermore one should feel Fedora in it... From the mascots that were mockuped so far I like most of them (especially the parrot and the mermaid and merman and Try 9), but only in the parrot I feel a slight touch of Fedora... dunno why, however. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 15:34 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > I think what we need to do first is determine an animal or whatnot > that symbolizes what Fedora is about. For instance, we always see owls > as wise, and elephants as forgetful, etc. The problem with that is that such representations mean different things in different cultures; finding something that has a neutral or positive connotation in all cultures is difficult if not impossible. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
I think what we need to do first is determine an animal or whatnot that symbolizes what Fedora is about. For instance, we always see owls as wise, and elephants as forgetful, etc. On 8/21/07, Christopher David Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the human mascots are too anime looking. I think a goat > (perhaps a mountain goat standing on the top of a mountain of free/open > software? but please nothing resembling the GNU logo) or the platypus > sound like great ideas to me. The platypus is an extremely fascinating > animal. Another suggestion might be an otter? > Chris > > On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 15:12 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > > I don't think that's a good idea at all, no offence, because Microsoft > > uses a butterfly a lot, and that's not what we want to associate > > Fedora with. I'm still torn on the need for a mascot or not, so I > > don't really have any suggestions in replacement of this. However on > > the mascot wiki, I did kind of like the humans towards the bottom. > > > > On 8/21/07, Karel Boissinot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I > > really suck at drawing things so I can't say I have made a > > sketch, but I got inspired looking at this picture: > > > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg > > > > The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings > > of a butterfly. > > > > Anyway, just food for thought > > > > Karel > > > > ___ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ~Michael > > http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) > > http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) > > ___ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
I think the human mascots are too anime looking. I think a goat (perhaps a mountain goat standing on the top of a mountain of free/open software? but please nothing resembling the GNU logo) or the platypus sound like great ideas to me. The platypus is an extremely fascinating animal. Another suggestion might be an otter? Chris On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 15:12 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > I don't think that's a good idea at all, no offence, because Microsoft > uses a butterfly a lot, and that's not what we want to associate > Fedora with. I'm still torn on the need for a mascot or not, so I > don't really have any suggestions in replacement of this. However on > the mascot wiki, I did kind of like the humans towards the bottom. > > On 8/21/07, Karel Boissinot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I > really suck at drawing things so I can't say I have made a > sketch, but I got inspired looking at this picture: > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg > > The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings > of a butterfly. > > Anyway, just food for thought > > Karel > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > -- > ~Michael > http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) > http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About the mascot
I don't think that's a good idea at all, no offence, because Microsoft uses a butterfly a lot, and that's not what we want to associate Fedora with. I'm still torn on the need for a mascot or not, so I don't really have any suggestions in replacement of this. However on the mascot wiki, I did kind of like the humans towards the bottom. On 8/21/07, Karel Boissinot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I really suck at > drawing things so I can't say I have made a sketch, but I got inspired > looking at this picture: > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg > > The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings of a > butterfly. > > Anyway, just food for thought > > Karel > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
About the mascot
Anybody thought of using a butterfly for the mascott? I really suck at drawing things so I can't say I have made a sketch, but I got inspired looking at this picture: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/images/3d_bubble_07.svg The reflected logo kinda makes it look like the bottom wings of a butterfly. Anyway, just food for thought Karel ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: my idea for mascot
Anuja KR wrote: hi I have a few ideas about fedora mascot. check the link below. http://anujagraphics.googlepages.com/home Gerold already explained about hat, so I won't redundantly talk about that. Please submit any proposals to the relevant wiki page - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot Back in the initial discuss about a mascot some people supported a dolphin, so a dolphin mascot could have some fans (sure, it will have also opponents claiming MySQL use *another* dolphin) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: my idea for mascot
Am Sonntag, den 19.08.2007, 22:21 +0530 schrieb Anuja KR: > hi > > I have a few ideas about fedora mascot. check the link below. > http://anujagraphics.googlepages.com/home > > anuja ^^ _NO_ never use a "red hat" ... please have a look into the guidelines to understand; ... Thanks GeroldKa signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
my idea for mascot
hi I have a few ideas about fedora mascot. check the link below. http://anujagraphics.googlepages.com/home anuja ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: uploading a mascot
María Leandro wrote: Hi everyone!! I have a possible mascot that I would like to add to the wiki, but I really don't know if I should modify the wiki by myself or give my art to someone. I see you already uploaded the image, which is a very good looking image, I like it very much. Welcome! I hope you will not mind a couple of suggestions: - a good way to get other involved with your work is to make the sources available, so they can easily download, tweak, modify; - I said, I like it very much but I don't think it can work well as a mascot: * usually mascots are not humans * is better for a mascot to have a simpler shape, so it can be easily re-created by other people This does not mean the graphic can't be used in any way, have a look at this poster made by Mairin as an example of how I believe we can use non-mascot graphics: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SummerOfCode/Posters Being new, I will use this opportunity to introduce you a few projects our team is working on, you may know them, other people on the list know them (and even contributed to them): - Design Service: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService is an initiative for our group to act as a design firm creating graphics for various entities inside Fedora. Its request queue has increased in size and could use some help; - Desktop Themes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/ we are approaching the end date for the Round 2, so the base ideas for this cycle are defined, but we still need more feedback, adjustments, polishing. I will also introduce you to some places where you can interact with the community: - Mugshot has a pretty inactive Fedora Art group http://mugshot.org/group?who=DrZ42qVjmPWmnh but a more active general Fedora group http://mugshot.org/group?who=qF6wdtBPcy3D8T - deviantART is a place where many of us publish so we have there a group: http://fedora-art.deviantart.com/ - our flickr group http://flickr.com/groups/fedora-art/ is used very little, but if we like it, is possible to use it more. Do I forgot something? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: uploading a mascot
all done!!! thanks a lot xD 2007/7/30, Ben Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 30/07/07, María Leandro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone!! > > > > I have a possible mascot that I would like to add to the wiki, but I > really > > don't know if I should modify the wiki by myself or give my art to > someone. > > > > I already have editing privileges as the list shows [1] > > > > > > So, I would like to know if I should wait for something else to upload > my > > contribution about this issue. > > > > Go ahead and do it yourself; add the image using the Attatchments link > to the right of the wiki page and upload it. Go back to the page and > click Edit, typing in something like: > > [attachment:MariaMascot1.png] > > where you want it to be placed. Use the Preview button to see if it's > right. This can be a bit slow sometimes, patience will pay off! > > Don't worry, there is always a way of pulling it back if it all goes wrong > :) > > -- > |..// seawolf //..| > | Ben Arnold | > |e-mail / msn / icq / web | > | http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary | > | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | > | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | > |GnuPG Available - ask me!| > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro www.tatica.org www.fedora-ve.org LinuxUser= 440285 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: uploading a mascot
On 30/07/07, María Leandro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone!! > > I have a possible mascot that I would like to add to the wiki, but I really > don't know if I should modify the wiki by myself or give my art to someone. > > I already have editing privileges as the list shows [1] > > > So, I would like to know if I should wait for something else to upload my > contribution about this issue. > Go ahead and do it yourself; add the image using the Attatchments link to the right of the wiki page and upload it. Go back to the page and click Edit, typing in something like: [attachment:MariaMascot1.png] where you want it to be placed. Use the Preview button to see if it's right. This can be a bit slow sometimes, patience will pay off! Don't worry, there is always a way of pulling it back if it all goes wrong :) -- |..// seawolf //..| | Ben Arnold | |e-mail / msn / icq / web | | http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | |GnuPG Available - ask me!| ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
uploading a mascot
Hi everyone!! I have a possible mascot that I would like to add to the wiki, but I really don't know if I should modify the wiki by myself or give my art to someone. I already have editing privileges as the list shows [1] So, I would like to know if I should wait for something else to upload my contribution about this issue. Thanks! :D [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EditGroup <== MariaLeandro -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro www.tatica.org www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 *GPG Public Key*: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora Mascot] What's the current status?
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : I see the Mascot page [1] is little outdated - Last edit in the April... Was actually any Mascot selected for promoting Fedora or the development died out? I'm just pinging how's it going, as I am not quite sure about the status. The response from the team to the initiative was pretty low, so we did not pursued it harder. Personally I intended at some point to revive the interest with a blog post but was busy with other thing and forgot about that. Maybe I'll blog about it later today... Idle status at the moment. Given the time constraint for Fedora 8. having mascot is not really a high priority. But the mascot is not tied with the release in any way, the graphics is not planned to be included in the downloadable bits, so we can release it when is ready. Alignment of some kind with the release schedule may be nice just from a marketing point of view, a publicity stunt. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora Mascot] What's the current status?
Martin Sourada a écrit : > Hi, > > I see the Mascot page [1] is little outdated - Last edit in the April... > Was actually any Mascot selected for promoting Fedora or the development > died out? I'm just pinging how's it going, as I am not quite sure about > the status. > > Idle status at the moment. Given the time constraint for Fedora 8. having mascot is not really a high priority. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Fedora Mascot] What's the current status?
Hi, I see the Mascot page [1] is little outdated - Last edit in the April... Was actually any Mascot selected for promoting Fedora or the development died out? I'm just pinging how's it going, as I am not quite sure about the status. Also I'd like to add my two cents as to which I would like to see as our mascot. I really like the parrot (try 6)[2]. I somehow feel the fedora in him... I would pick the one without T-shirt (or maybe with the t-shirt but without the fedora logo). Also the aliens [3] from try 4 are also very nice and representative, IMHO. Martin [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=arara3_n.png [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=yet_more_aliens_m.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: I got the time to start something: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot antropomorphic? Sound like we are going to create a Fedora version of Pokemon. antropomorphic, right? Well, I definitely would like something along the lines of http://www.freebsd.org/art.html But this is not a rule, just how I see it, and I will *not* make the final decision. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Nicu Buculei wrote: > > I got the time to start something: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot > antropomorphic? Sound like we are going to create a Fedora version of Pokemon. antropomorphic, right? *Going to sleep and thinking about steck* ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: Hi everybody, I added to wiki one picture of mascot named Feliks, a dragon-fly pilot, it isn't in the list of possibilities, but it's lovely, isn't it? It seems we needed someone to break the ice and Jiri just did that with a first graphic. Everybody, the friendly competition is open! Correct, we don't have to limit ourselves to the listed proposals. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
MASCOT
Hi everybody, I added to wiki one picture of mascot named Feliks, a dragon-fly pilot, it isn't in the list of possibilities, but it's lovely, isn't it? JJM -- I'm still learning English... Jiří Jakub Mašek - Mr Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union http://jjm.xf.cz ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: OK, now I head to the wiki and start a page there... +1 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot The page is a mess right now, I listed there every small proposal from the Marketing list, some ideas from our talk and a few of my own opinions. And no graphics yet... -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? My vision is like this: even if we and with an animal, it has to be anthropomorphic so we can use it in various situations: fix servers, kick Clippy's behind, racing the Daemon and other funny situations. Hehe +1, they've got to be able to do stuff. They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? I think so, but with a cuter character. Does it have to be cute? Can it be someone very smart / cool / funny but perhaps not cute? E.g., ipod kind of has the dancing people (http://images.google.com/images?q=ipod+people&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=5fK&um=1&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title), I guess it might be easier to sketch some different possibilities and send them out first :) A problem I see: we as a team are spread around the world, so the characters/mascots, TV commercials and products we see every day are not exactly the same so we really need to use something like youtube. See, I don't see this as a problem at all. It's a totally sweet advantage :) OK, now I head to the wiki and start a page there... +1 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Nicu Buculei wrote: John Baer wrote: I see the need for some wiki pages to hold ideas/submissions and someone to coordinate the effort. Do you have an interest in leading the artTeam on this one? Yes, I am very interested to work on this, just yesterday was not a good day for the task. I got the time to start something: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Kelly wrote: If we're discussing the concept of a mascot, I'll just post the link to my personal favourite wallpaper on Fedora: Wow! I like those. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920609/?qo=23&q=by%3Ajuzo-kun&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps And of course... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920887/?qo=22&q=by%3Ajuzo-kun&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps Though I suspect that's not exactly what you're looking for... Unfortunately. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Máirín Duffy wrote: The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? My vision is like this: even if we and with an animal, it has to be anthropomorphic so we can use it in various situations: fix servers, kick Clippy's behind, racing the Daemon and other funny situations. Actually, so this is totally inbred I think, but - for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Red Hat has put out a series of little videos that simplify and explain the technology coming out with RHEL 5: http://www.redhat.com/videos/real_tech/ Those are also very popular on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=red+hat+real+technology+lesson&search=Search They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? I think so, but with a cuter character. From the thread on marketing-list and some comments I saw in our IRC channel, I think some of the main points being brought up as issues to solve are: 1) the Fedora logo is somewhat impersonal 2) it's not 'ours' - eg the community didn't create it and doesn't own it so we're restricted in using it 3) it's not very good fodder for plush animals :) 4) it seems many suspect it doesn't reach out to as broad an audience as a well-done mascot might. Also the official logo don't give me the artistic freedom to create something like this: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/otto_dueling.svg (old and ugly images, but I hope you get the idea) I think probably the main goal for a mascot for Fedora, then, to be derived from the list of issues above: a community-created and maintained mascot for the Fedora project that brings a friendly personality to the project and reaches out to our target audience. This is fine. Of course, a very difficult question I think is: who is our target audience? One idea for moving forward would be for us to think of what characters/mascots/ even TV commercials we associate with different products and try to figure out what we like/don't like about each. We could go through youtube.com, for example, and look for popular/funny commercials that worked, that people liked and uploaded. A problem I see: we as a team are spread around the world, so the characters/mascots, TV commercials and products we see every day are not exactly the same so we really need to use something like youtube. OK, now I head to the wiki and start a page there... -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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John Baer wrote: Nicu, This item was suggested before and did not proceed IMO because it lacked sponsorship. With the marketing team as sponsor this could be a chance for marketing and the artTeam to work together. :) I think it lacked enthusiasm from us. We don't really need sponsoring, just our graphic tools and our communication channels. I see the need for some wiki pages to hold ideas/submissions and someone to coordinate the effort. Do you have an interest in leading the artTeam on this one? Yes, I am very interested to work on this, just yesterday was not a good day for the task. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Me think character should be female. -- ¢D0< ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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If we're discussing the concept of a mascot, I'll just post the link to my personal favourite wallpaper on Fedora: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920609/?qo=23&q=by%3Ajuzo-kun&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps And of course... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920887/?qo=22&q=by%3Ajuzo-kun&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps Though I suspect that's not exactly what you're looking for... -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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O/H Máirín Duffy έγραψε: > They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that > represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a > friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are > looking for, right? +1 for a custom character. We can then use it to create lost of poses etc. I suggest to concentrate on the character and not the image. I'd think that a guy named "Bob" that looks like these http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join is better than a shiny thing like Firefox which is hard to adopt in various poses and contexts. Ideally it should: * Look daring/fearless (reflecting Fedora's vision for bleeding-edge) * At the same time friendly/earnest and potentially serious * Be simple enough to easily yield a stuffed puppet An example for the above is FreeBSD's daemon mascot: * http://www.freebsd.org/art.html And OpenBSD's: * http://www.openbsd.org/art/wanthead2.gif * http://www.openbsd.org/art/blowfish.jpg -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Nicu Buculei wrote: There is a very active thread going on the Marketing list [1] about the need of a Fedora mascot and an important number of Ambassadors and community people are in agreement about this need (see the link for comments, ideas, proposals). I think we, the Art Team, can come *as a community* with a nice, friendly and cute mascot which users will love. The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? Actually, so this is totally inbred I think, but - for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Red Hat has put out a series of little videos that simplify and explain the technology coming out with RHEL 5: http://www.redhat.com/videos/real_tech/ They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? From the thread on marketing-list and some comments I saw in our IRC channel, I think some of the main points being brought up as issues to solve are: 1) the Fedora logo is somewhat impersonal 2) it's not 'ours' - eg the community didn't create it and doesn't own it so we're restricted in using it 3) it's not very good fodder for plush animals :) 4) it seems many suspect it doesn't reach out to as broad an audience as a well-done mascot might. I think probably the main goal for a mascot for Fedora, then, to be derived from the list of issues above: a community-created and maintained mascot for the Fedora project that brings a friendly personality to the project and reaches out to our target audience. Of course, a very difficult question I think is: who is our target audience? One idea for moving forward would be for us to think of what characters/mascots/ even TV commercials we associate with different products and try to figure out what we like/don't like about each. We could go through youtube.com, for example, and look for popular/funny commercials that worked, that people liked and uploaded. As for some preliminary rules, I think we need something: - Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks); +1 I wouldn't say public domain though? Maybe just a plain CC attribution (attribute the Fedora Project) - derivs are OK. - lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot; +1 - produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our community's baby. +1 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Mascot
Nicu, This item was suggested before and did not proceed IMO because it lacked sponsorship. With the marketing team as sponsor this could be a chance for marketing and the artTeam to work together. :) I see the need for some wiki pages to hold ideas/submissions and someone to coordinate the effort. Do you have an interest in leading the artTeam on this one? John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Mascot
There is a very active thread going on the Marketing list [1] about the need of a Fedora mascot and an important number of Ambassadors and community people are in agreement about this need (see the link for comments, ideas, proposals). I think we, the Art Team, can come *as a community* with a nice, friendly and cute mascot which users will love. I will think a bit about it and lay down a page in the wiki, but in the meantime, please come with initiatives, ideas, proposals or even metaphors or sketches. As for some preliminary rules, I think we need something: - Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks); - lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot; - produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our community's baby. [1] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2007-March/msg00053.html -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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O.K., so, it should be the *Byte* a not infantilizating mascot of FEDORA, seriously: it's about graphics design, when it's naive it may look infantile. The other way, a mascot could bring more of sympathy with FEDORA, some people like mascots. JJMP.S.: don't forget http://jjm.xf.czOn 9/25/06, Joachim Frieben < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon. > Do you think the SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon, the Ximian's "Rupert"> monkey,> the Linux's "Tux" penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile?___ Fedora-art-list mailing listFedora-art-list@redhat.comhttp://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- I'm still learning English...Jiří Jakub Mašek - Jiri Jakub MasekCzech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon. > Do you think the SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon, the Ximian's "Rupert" > monkey, > the Linux's "Tux" penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Joachim Frieben wrote: Stop infantilization, .. no 'mascot' for Fedora! The 'infinity' logo is amply sufficient. Do you think the SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon, the Ximian's "Rupert" monkey, the Linux's "Tux" penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Stop infantilization, .. no 'mascot' for Fedora! The 'infinity' logo is amply sufficient. > Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: >> Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's >> talk about. May be I have an idea... > > I think there was a little talk about having a mascot, but without a > final resolution, so is not decided if we will have a mascot or not. > ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's talk about. May be I have an idea... I think there was a little talk about having a mascot, but without a final resolution, so is not decided if we will have a mascot or not. If you have an idea, my opinion is: fire it up! If we bring a very cute proposal I believe the chances for Fedora to adopt a mascot will increase. Of course, we can start a very slow and bureaucratic approach: discuss if we want a mascot or not, vote, talk about the metaphor, vote again, make some concurrent designs and vote once more. But having something uber-cute from the start may be a shortcut for this entire process :p On 9/21/06, *Charles VINCHON* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make a dragoon or another creature that look like these ones. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's talk about. May be I have an idea...JJMOn 9/21/06, Charles VINCHON < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make adragoon or another creature that look like these ones.Charles--Charles Vinchon French Fedora AmbassadorLille, France (GMT+2 - CEST)http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchonmailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___Fedora-art-list mailing listFedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list-- I'm still learning English...Jiří Jakub Mašek - Jiri Jakub MasekCzech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make a dragoon or another creature that look like these ones. Charles -- Charles Vinchon French Fedora Ambassador Lille, France (GMT+2 - CEST) http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
