Re: Mascot
Nicu Buculei wrote: I got the time to start something: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot antropomorphic? Sound like we are going to create a Fedora version of Pokemon. antropomorphic, right? *Going to sleep and thinking about steck* ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: I got the time to start something: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot antropomorphic? Sound like we are going to create a Fedora version of Pokemon. antropomorphic, right? Well, I definitely would like something along the lines of http://www.freebsd.org/art.html But this is not a rule, just how I see it, and I will *not* make the final decision. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Kelly wrote: If we're discussing the concept of a mascot, I'll just post the link to my personal favourite wallpaper on Fedora: Wow! I like those. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920609/?qo=23q=by%3Ajuzo-kunqh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps And of course... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920887/?qo=22q=by%3Ajuzo-kunqh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps Though I suspect that's not exactly what you're looking for... Unfortunately. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Nicu Buculei wrote: John Baer wrote: I see the need for some wiki pages to hold ideas/submissions and someone to coordinate the effort. Do you have an interest in leading the artTeam on this one? Yes, I am very interested to work on this, just yesterday was not a good day for the task. I got the time to start something: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? My vision is like this: even if we and with an animal, it has to be anthropomorphic so we can use it in various situations: fix servers, kick Clippy's behind, racing the Daemon and other funny situations. Hehe +1, they've got to be able to do stuff. They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? I think so, but with a cuter character. Does it have to be cute? Can it be someone very smart / cool / funny but perhaps not cute? E.g., ipod kind of has the dancing people (http://images.google.com/images?q=ipod+peoplehl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialhs=5fKum=1sa=Xoi=imagesct=title), I guess it might be easier to sketch some different possibilities and send them out first :) A problem I see: we as a team are spread around the world, so the characters/mascots, TV commercials and products we see every day are not exactly the same so we really need to use something like youtube. See, I don't see this as a problem at all. It's a totally sweet advantage :) OK, now I head to the wiki and start a page there... +1 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Nicu Buculei wrote: There is a very active thread going on the Marketing list [1] about the need of a Fedora mascot and an important number of Ambassadors and community people are in agreement about this need (see the link for comments, ideas, proposals). I think we, the Art Team, can come *as a community* with a nice, friendly and cute mascot which users will love. The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? Actually, so this is totally inbred I think, but - for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Red Hat has put out a series of little videos that simplify and explain the technology coming out with RHEL 5: http://www.redhat.com/videos/real_tech/ They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? From the thread on marketing-list and some comments I saw in our IRC channel, I think some of the main points being brought up as issues to solve are: 1) the Fedora logo is somewhat impersonal 2) it's not 'ours' - eg the community didn't create it and doesn't own it so we're restricted in using it 3) it's not very good fodder for plush animals :) 4) it seems many suspect it doesn't reach out to as broad an audience as a well-done mascot might. I think probably the main goal for a mascot for Fedora, then, to be derived from the list of issues above: a community-created and maintained mascot for the Fedora project that brings a friendly personality to the project and reaches out to our target audience. Of course, a very difficult question I think is: who is our target audience? One idea for moving forward would be for us to think of what characters/mascots/ even TV commercials we associate with different products and try to figure out what we like/don't like about each. We could go through youtube.com, for example, and look for popular/funny commercials that worked, that people liked and uploaded. As for some preliminary rules, I think we need something: - Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks); +1 I wouldn't say public domain though? Maybe just a plain CC attribution (attribute the Fedora Project) - derivs are OK. - lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot; +1 - produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our community's baby. +1 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
O/H Máirín Duffy έγραψε: They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? +1 for a custom character. We can then use it to create lost of poses etc. I suggest to concentrate on the character and not the image. I'd think that a guy named Bob that looks like these http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join is better than a shiny thing like Firefox which is hard to adopt in various poses and contexts. Ideally it should: * Look daring/fearless (reflecting Fedora's vision for bleeding-edge) * At the same time friendly/earnest and potentially serious * Be simple enough to easily yield a stuffed puppet An example for the above is FreeBSD's daemon mascot: * http://www.freebsd.org/art.html And OpenBSD's: * http://www.openbsd.org/art/wanthead2.gif * http://www.openbsd.org/art/blowfish.jpg -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither. (Anonymous) -- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
If we're discussing the concept of a mascot, I'll just post the link to my personal favourite wallpaper on Fedora: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920609/?qo=23q=by%3Ajuzo-kunqh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps And of course... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920887/?qo=22q=by%3Ajuzo-kunqh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps Though I suspect that's not exactly what you're looking for... -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Me think character should be female. -- ¢D0 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
John Baer wrote: Nicu, This item was suggested before and did not proceed IMO because it lacked sponsorship. With the marketing team as sponsor this could be a chance for marketing and the artTeam to work together. :) I think it lacked enthusiasm from us. We don't really need sponsoring, just our graphic tools and our communication channels. I see the need for some wiki pages to hold ideas/submissions and someone to coordinate the effort. Do you have an interest in leading the artTeam on this one? Yes, I am very interested to work on this, just yesterday was not a good day for the task. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Máirín Duffy wrote: The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? My vision is like this: even if we and with an animal, it has to be anthropomorphic so we can use it in various situations: fix servers, kick Clippy's behind, racing the Daemon and other funny situations. Actually, so this is totally inbred I think, but - for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Red Hat has put out a series of little videos that simplify and explain the technology coming out with RHEL 5: http://www.redhat.com/videos/real_tech/ Those are also very popular on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=red+hat+real+technology+lessonsearch=Search They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? I think so, but with a cuter character. From the thread on marketing-list and some comments I saw in our IRC channel, I think some of the main points being brought up as issues to solve are: 1) the Fedora logo is somewhat impersonal 2) it's not 'ours' - eg the community didn't create it and doesn't own it so we're restricted in using it 3) it's not very good fodder for plush animals :) 4) it seems many suspect it doesn't reach out to as broad an audience as a well-done mascot might. Also the official logo don't give me the artistic freedom to create something like this: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/otto_dueling.svg (old and ugly images, but I hope you get the idea) I think probably the main goal for a mascot for Fedora, then, to be derived from the list of issues above: a community-created and maintained mascot for the Fedora project that brings a friendly personality to the project and reaches out to our target audience. This is fine. Of course, a very difficult question I think is: who is our target audience? One idea for moving forward would be for us to think of what characters/mascots/ even TV commercials we associate with different products and try to figure out what we like/don't like about each. We could go through youtube.com, for example, and look for popular/funny commercials that worked, that people liked and uploaded. A problem I see: we as a team are spread around the world, so the characters/mascots, TV commercials and products we see every day are not exactly the same so we really need to use something like youtube. OK, now I head to the wiki and start a page there... -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's talk about. May be I have an idea... I think there was a little talk about having a mascot, but without a final resolution, so is not decided if we will have a mascot or not. If you have an idea, my opinion is: fire it up! If we bring a very cute proposal I believe the chances for Fedora to adopt a mascot will increase. Of course, we can start a very slow and bureaucratic approach: discuss if we want a mascot or not, vote, talk about the metaphor, vote again, make some concurrent designs and vote once more. But having something uber-cute from the start may be a shortcut for this entire process :p On 9/21/06, *Charles VINCHON* [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make a dragoon or another creature that look like these ones. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Stop infantilization, .. no 'mascot' for Fedora! The 'infinity' logo is amply sufficient. Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's talk about. May be I have an idea... I think there was a little talk about having a mascot, but without a final resolution, so is not decided if we will have a mascot or not. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Joachim Frieben wrote: Stop infantilization, .. no 'mascot' for Fedora! The 'infinity' logo is amply sufficient. Do you think the SUSE's Gekko chameleon, the Ximian's Rupert monkey, the Linux's Tux penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's Gekko chameleon. Do you think the SUSE's Gekko chameleon, the Ximian's Rupert monkey, the Linux's Tux penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
O.K., so, it should be the *Byte* a not infantilizating mascot of FEDORA, seriously: it's about graphics design, when it's naive it may look infantile. The other way, a mascot could bring more of sympathy with FEDORA, some people like mascots. JJMP.S.: don't forget http://jjm.xf.czOn 9/25/06, Joachim Frieben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's Gekko chameleon. Do you think the SUSE's Gekko chameleon, the Ximian's Rupert monkey, the Linux's Tux penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile?___ Fedora-art-list mailing listFedora-art-list@redhat.comhttp://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- I'm still learning English...Jiří Jakub Mašek - Jiri Jakub MasekCzech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's talk about. May be I have an idea...JJMOn 9/21/06, Charles VINCHON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make adragoon or another creature that look like these ones.Charles--Charles Vinchon French Fedora AmbassadorLille, France (GMT+2 - CEST)http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchonmailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___Fedora-art-list mailing listFedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list-- I'm still learning English...Jiří Jakub Mašek - Jiri Jakub MasekCzech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
