Re: Solar final fixing
Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi Màirìn About the sources (XCF) they was already online on the Solar page i've uploaded it yesterday, I forgot to say it, sorry :D And about the Image i used in the background of my tutorial it was a part of solar created followin' the instruction I shown you in this other Tutorial: http://people.byte-code.com/sstorari/?p=21 I wanted to recreate a new effect so we can certificate the image now is totally cc, made by zero. The problem with the past effect is that unfortunately I can't certificate the originality so for don't fall again I do it by new. The past effect after the start tutorial here above where masked, scaled, rotated and merged in gimp, as the same for the vector. Why I use Inkscape in the yesterday tutorial? 'Cause it's nice to change :D, and 'cause make it again usin' the brushes will take so much time more. Than I hope here we are, sorry for the misunderstandings we have had. I hope to see your works soon. The XCF and half of the wallpapers look okay, but it looks like the other artworks need to be replaced. I think probably you might have been waiting for my okay to do that, so consider this an okay for the following source: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2c/Solar_2048x1536.xcf.bz2 Artwork that needs to be replaced: - The row of 2560x960 wallpapers are still using the old artwork - The row of 2048x1536 wallpapers are still using the old artwork - The syslinux splashes are still using the old artwork - What are labeled as grub splashes (they are actually syslinux splashes, grub is missing) are using the old artwork (I checked in the XCF) - The anaconda header and splash are using the old artwork - the release poster is using the old artwork and also appears to be using an unidentified brush ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Hi Mairin I'm replaicing right now all the materials, I changed some little things on the Solar Login and on the User Icon was changed too. Side Bar and the Welcome splash was changed too, just a little. All the Dual Format wallpaper still waitin to be finished, and right now I'm doin' something for the Splash. This time the progress splash will have some modify just cause when I was re-doing the sun last week I don't draw all the side of the Sun so it can be not rendered a little transparent as the past version. If you have some other correction I'm here. cheers Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 4:47:25 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Solar final fixing Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi Màirìn About the sources (XCF) they was already online on the Solar page i've uploaded it yesterday, I forgot to say it, sorry :D And about the Image i used in the background of my tutorial it was a part of solar created followin' the instruction I shown you in this other Tutorial: http://people.byte-code.com/sstorari/?p=21 I wanted to recreate a new effect so we can certificate the image now is totally cc, made by zero. The problem with the past effect is that unfortunately I can't certificate the originality so for don't fall again I do it by new. The past effect after the start tutorial here above where masked, scaled, rotated and merged in gimp, as the same for the vector. Why I use Inkscape in the yesterday tutorial? 'Cause it's nice to change :D, and 'cause make it again usin' the brushes will take so much time more. Than I hope here we are, sorry for the misunderstandings we have had. I hope to see your works soon. The XCF and half of the wallpapers look okay, but it looks like the other artworks need to be replaced. I think probably you might have been waiting for my okay to do that, so consider this an okay for the following source: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2c/Solar_2048x1536.xcf.bz2 Artwork that needs to be replaced: - The row of 2560x960 wallpapers are still using the old artwork - The row of 2048x1536 wallpapers are still using the old artwork - The syslinux splashes are still using the old artwork - What are labeled as grub splashes (they are actually syslinux splashes, grub is missing) are using the old artwork (I checked in the XCF) - The anaconda header and splash are using the old artwork - the release poster is using the old artwork and also appears to be using an unidentified brush ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi Mairin I'm replaicing right now all the materials, I changed some little things on the Solar Login and on the User Icon was changed too. Side Bar and the Welcome splash was changed too, just a little. All the Dual Format wallpaper still waitin to be finished, and right now I'm doin' something for the Splash. This time the progress splash will have some modify just cause when I was re-doing the sun last week I don't draw all the side of the Sun so it can be not rendered a little transparent as the past version. If you have some other correction I'm here. Right now I'm working with the wallpaper XCF, cleaning up the layers so I can make a grub splash. The stars I think are a little messy/unrealistic so I'm creating some hopefully better ones. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
So if you will do something for the GRUB SPLASH I will dedicat my time to the Solar Poster? Ok? Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 5:11:41 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Solar final fixing Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi Mairin I'm replaicing right now all the materials, I changed some little things on the Solar Login and on the User Icon was changed too. Side Bar and the Welcome splash was changed too, just a little. All the Dual Format wallpaper still waitin to be finished, and right now I'm doin' something for the Splash. This time the progress splash will have some modify just cause when I was re-doing the sun last week I don't draw all the side of the Sun so it can be not rendered a little transparent as the past version. If you have some other correction I'm here. Right now I'm working with the wallpaper XCF, cleaning up the layers so I can make a grub splash. The stars I think are a little messy/unrealistic so I'm creating some hopefully better ones. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Samuele Storari wrote: So if you will do something for the GRUB SPLASH I will dedicat my time to the Solar Poster? Ok? Sounds good but you may want to consult with the marketing list on the actual content. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Ok, I will thanks for support. Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 5:43:52 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Solar final fixing Samuele Storari wrote: So if you will do something for the GRUB SPLASH I will dedicat my time to the Solar Poster? Ok? Sounds good but you may want to consult with the marketing list on the actual content. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi Mairin I'm replaicing right now all the materials, I changed some little things on the Solar Login and on the User Icon was changed too. Side Bar and the Welcome splash was changed too, just a little. All the Dual Format wallpaper still waitin to be finished, and right now I'm doin' something for the Splash. This time the progress splash will have some modify just cause when I was re-doing the sun last week I don't draw all the side of the Sun so it can be not rendered a little transparent as the past version. If you have some other correction I'm here. Right now I'm working with the wallpaper XCF, cleaning up the layers so I can make a grub splash. All the wallpapers are now the new version and I uploaded the cleaned-up XCF sources. Moving on to grub now. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Samuele Storari wrote: Ok, I will thanks for support. Hey I got GRUB up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar#GRUB It seems to work really well with 16-color. I think we should use the same image (cropped to 300px tall) for the low color syslinux as well. And keep the hicolor syslinux one. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Hi Màirìn About the sources (XCF) they was already online on the Solar page i've uploaded it yesterday, I forgot to say it, sorry :D And about the Image i used in the background of my tutorial it was a part of solar created followin' the instruction I shown you in this other Tutorial: http://people.byte-code.com/sstorari/?p=21 I wanted to recreate a new effect so we can certificate the image now is totally cc, made by zero. The problem with the past effect is that unfortunately I can't certificate the originality so for don't fall again I do it by new. The past effect after the start tutorial here above where masked, scaled, rotated and merged in gimp, as the same for the vector. Why I use Inkscape in the yesterday tutorial? 'Cause it's nice to change :D, and 'cause make it again usin' the brushes will take so much time more. Than I hope here we are, sorry for the misunderstandings we have had. I hope to see your works soon. Cheers Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Friday, 26 September, 2008 2:17:09 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Solar final fixing Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all, as today told on irc channel (#fedora-art) I've uploaded on fedorapeople.org an archive with screenshots attesting my work is now fixed so there will be no problem about any part of the file. You will find all at: http://sstorari.fedorapeople.org/ Please check this out and if all is correct i will go on creatin the Solar Theme. It is quite obvious you have done a lot of work here to retrace and document carefully your steps and I really, really appreciate that. You've done a tremendous job! I walked through all of your screenshots. My main question (which I asked you earlier on IRC but I don't think I got a response from you on) is where did the original flare bitmap that you traced come from? I feel a little nervous about giving you an okay when I don't know the source of that bitmap, because I do not want to encourage tracing of unknown-licensed works. I think in some cases using a photo or other work as a guide can be ok, and you've certainly done some manual work in tracing it and applied to the solar graphic so that it's not that recognizable. However, I do want there to be some recognition that at least in spirit it's a bad practice to trace other people's work like that (if it is another person's work). This is especially true if you plan to publish your tutorial on doing the flare to a wider audience (which I would love to see you do! It's very useful :) ) I would really encourage you to cite that image in the tutorial if so. If the image it's from is not openly-licensed, I would encourage you to modify the tutorial such that it uses an openly-licensed photo. I know this may seem very strict and perhaps it's overly so. But I think you have to be VERY careful, especially in a tutorial setting when you are setting an example for others, to send the right message. Being very responsible and clear about your sources can only set a *good* example to your audience. So here are just two things I'd like to hear from you before I give you my approval on this: - Can you tell us the source of the flare bitmap that you started from? (I considered that perhaps you created it on your own, but it would be rather recursive to create it, trace it, and then re-create it - wouldn't it? So I assume it came from elsewhere. Where?) - Can you provide the final XCF? I would feel a lot more confident giving you my approval if I had the chance to look it over beforehand. Again, this is a tremendous effort on your part Samuele, thank you so much! I'm really looking forward to working with this new improved Solar artwork so I can start creating banners for fedoraproject.org and working on the disc and disc sleeve artwork! :) I hope this mail isn't a discouragement to you; it's obvious you have a lot of talent and I think you will be a very valuable member of the art team! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Hi Samuele, Hey Samuele! Samuele Storari wrote: Hi Màirìn About the sources (XCF) they was already online on the Solar page i've uploaded it yesterday, I forgot to say it, sorry :D And about the Image i used in the background of my tutorial it was a part of solar created followin' the instruction I shown you in this other Tutorial: http://people.byte-code.com/sstorari/?p=21 I wanted to recreate a new effect so we can certificate the image now is totally cc, made by zero. The problem with the past effect is that unfortunately I can't certificate the originality so for don't fall again I do it by new. The past effect after the start tutorial here above where masked, scaled, rotated and merged in gimp, as the same for the vector. Why I use Inkscape in the yesterday tutorial? 'Cause it's nice to change :D, and 'cause make it again usin' the brushes will take so much time more. Than I hope here we are, sorry for the misunderstandings we have had. I hope to see your works soon. Oh okay, this is great - thanks for your patience! It's early morning here, I'll be able to look over the XCF later today to give you final approval. So far it's looking really good. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Solar final fixing
Hi all, as today told on irc channel (#fedora-art) I've uploaded on fedorapeople.org an archive with screenshots attesting my work is now fixed so there will be no problem about any part of the file. You will find all at: http://sstorari.fedorapeople.org/ Please check this out and if all is correct i will go on creatin the Solar Theme. Thanks Samuele -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar final fixing
Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all, as today told on irc channel (#fedora-art) I've uploaded on fedorapeople.org an archive with screenshots attesting my work is now fixed so there will be no problem about any part of the file. You will find all at: http://sstorari.fedorapeople.org/ Please check this out and if all is correct i will go on creatin the Solar Theme. It is quite obvious you have done a lot of work here to retrace and document carefully your steps and I really, really appreciate that. You've done a tremendous job! I walked through all of your screenshots. My main question (which I asked you earlier on IRC but I don't think I got a response from you on) is where did the original flare bitmap that you traced come from? I feel a little nervous about giving you an okay when I don't know the source of that bitmap, because I do not want to encourage tracing of unknown-licensed works. I think in some cases using a photo or other work as a guide can be ok, and you've certainly done some manual work in tracing it and applied to the solar graphic so that it's not that recognizable. However, I do want there to be some recognition that at least in spirit it's a bad practice to trace other people's work like that (if it is another person's work). This is especially true if you plan to publish your tutorial on doing the flare to a wider audience (which I would love to see you do! It's very useful :) ) I would really encourage you to cite that image in the tutorial if so. If the image it's from is not openly-licensed, I would encourage you to modify the tutorial such that it uses an openly-licensed photo. I know this may seem very strict and perhaps it's overly so. But I think you have to be VERY careful, especially in a tutorial setting when you are setting an example for others, to send the right message. Being very responsible and clear about your sources can only set a *good* example to your audience. So here are just two things I'd like to hear from you before I give you my approval on this: - Can you tell us the source of the flare bitmap that you started from? (I considered that perhaps you created it on your own, but it would be rather recursive to create it, trace it, and then re-create it - wouldn't it? So I assume it came from elsewhere. Where?) - Can you provide the final XCF? I would feel a lot more confident giving you my approval if I had the chance to look it over beforehand. Again, this is a tremendous effort on your part Samuele, thank you so much! I'm really looking forward to working with this new improved Solar artwork so I can start creating banners for fedoraproject.org and working on the disc and disc sleeve artwork! :) I hope this mail isn't a discouragement to you; it's obvious you have a lot of talent and I think you will be a very valuable member of the art team! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
