Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft
2008/7/1 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 20:09 +0200, Mark wrote: 2008/6/21 Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A quick trace of system-file-manager icons (16x16 and 48x48) using metallic colours. They might need some fix on outlines. Any comments? Those things are rarely made from wood so the colors like they are now are wrong. It needs to be in: - white - beige - black - silver or a combination of that. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] system-software-installer draft
2008/7/2 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 18:20 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New draft of system-software-installer icon. Comments welcome. Not bad. I think we should go beyond optical media because there are other medias like usb, SD card that can used for installation. Using metaphor like arrow would be appropriate. Do you mean some simple arrow, like I used in the system-software-update48a.png [1] (btw. I mistakenly named the icon in thread subject as preferences-system-update), or do you have in mind something more complex? As for the package+CD/DVD metaphor - I think it's so widely used that it wouldn't hurt to use it in Echo as well ;-) You or martin really need to explain why that shit color keeps being used with software boxes... take a look here: http://images.google.nl/images?ndsp=18um=1hl=nlclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:nl:officialq=software+boxstart=0sa=N NONE have that shit color. And to be somewhat more modern i would go for a shape like this one: http://www.di-o-matic.com/press/Library/fswin/fswin-box.jpg And if you then still decide to use that shit color then use the real cardboard one and not that over darkened one: http://www.climatechangecorp.com/resources/images/content/large/20073147294_cardboard.jpg And besides that all the box is the deep. cut of 1/3 of it ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] system-software-installer draft
Mark a écrit : You or martin really need to explain why that shit color keeps being used with software boxes... take a look here: http://images.google.nl/images?ndsp=18um=1hl=nlclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:nl:officialq=software+boxstart=0sa=N NONE have that shit color. And to be somewhat more modern i would go for a shape like this one: http://www.di-o-matic.com/press/Library/fswin/fswin-box.jpg And if you then still decide to use that shit color then use the real cardboard one and not that over darkened one: http://www.climatechangecorp.com/resources/images/content/large/20073147294_cardboard.jpg And besides that all the box is the deep. cut of 1/3 of it Sound like a enhancement. Here is a homework for you. Pick that icon, read Echo guideline and try to come with a variant using Inkscape. As Martin and I try to complete the second level menu, an active participation from critic would be greatly welcome. Luya - Interesting that nobody complained about the brown color choice before. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] system-software-installer draft
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 18:21 +0200, Mark wrote: You or martin really need to explain why that shit color keeps being used with software boxes... take a look here: http://images.google.nl/images?ndsp=18um=1hl=nlclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:nl:officialq=software+boxstart=0sa=N NONE have that shit color. Because: * I like that colour * You are the only one complaining about it * It's picked from the colour palette * Even though real-life packages are lighter than that, this fits Echo more, we are not doing photo realistic icons And to be somewhat more modern i would go for a shape like this one: http://www.di-o-matic.com/press/Library/fswin/fswin-box.jpg We are talking about icons, not about real life. We need an icon to look decent, have easily recognisable shape, even by colour blind people, suggest what it symbolises. In a small icon (22x22) you can easily mistake such box for credit card... And if you then still decide to use that shit color then use the real cardboard one and not that over darkened one: http://www.climatechangecorp.com/resources/images/content/large/20073147294_cardboard.jpg As I said earlier - the brightness of the icon is result of me trying various choices and comparing the results with other icons. I didn't chose the one that looks most like a paper box, I chose the one that looked most echoey. And besides that all the box is the deep. cut of 1/3 of it It's intentional. Due to other elements apart from the box, it looks weird when shorter. But as Luya said, if you feel like you can come up with something better, you are welcome to do so, if we feel like it's an improvement we'll approve it. Thanks, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] system-software-installer draft
2008/7/2 Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sound like a enhancement. Here is a homework for you. Pick that icon, read Echo guideline and try to come with a variant using Inkscape. As Martin and I try to complete the second level menu, an active participation from critic would be greatly welcome. Luya - Interesting that nobody complained about the brown color choice before. Not completely true. I've complained about it before but not to the extend of what i said in my last post. I always thought that the brown thing was plain ugly (sorry Martin). Infact i don't agree on a bunch of the icons made so far.. but i'm not: 1. looking here to just complain 2. not always complain ofcause or not look at all new icons 3. only complain when i really feel that it's just ugly and should not exist (this icon) And yes, i can try to improve it but why should i when the color in general for wood/cardboard is looking like a shit color. First the color palette to use needs to change before i can give it a try. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] system-software-installer draft
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 23:09 +0200, Mark wrote: I still don't like the icon. maybe tastes just differ to much on this one. Ok, then I'll go with the original colour (requires less work) and suggest you to fill enhancement ticket in trac [1] requesting for colour change (improvement) of the Echo box. Please try to be more constructive there (rather than criticizing, suggest how to improve it), some examples might help (links to images with short explanation). Images.google search results are of little help here so rather try to find one to three example images that nicely shows what your point is. And on the rest you said. i agree ^_^ Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/newticket signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] system-software-installer draft
Mark wrote: as you said: * I like that colour. now if noone comments in here or only people that do like it then it will get in echo. And because you like it there will need to be a lot of people here that say otherwise before you don't include it. That's also another issue that you are practically the leader of the echo icon theme. if you don't like an icon that i make it won't get in and if you make an icon that i don't like (but you do) it can still get in (this one). And there are to few people reading and commenting on the art list to get a good idea of what the people think of it. In this thread it's just 3 people! Adding the fourth person to the thread... What's wrong with that? Martin is practically the leader of the echo icon theme because he is doing the largest amount of work, this is how things work around here: how does the work also makes the decisions. And what if Martin and Luya make a few suboptimal decisions? They can be corrected. And if Echo does not get good enough as a whole theme, we won't switch to it as a default for F10 (it isn't yet the default). And the examples i showed are for the shape! not the color use. (except the box. it's for color indication) it doesn't need to be photo realistic, but better then this would be a lot better -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Bug 441213] [i18n] [zh_CN] Rendering different bold effect
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [i18n] [zh_CN] Rendering different bold effect https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441213 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-02 04:08 EST --- I am still not really convinced any bold font is involved here in this report. To me it just looks to be the contrast of the light Chinese font and the dark Western font, no? I have generally found Chinese fonts to be pretty faint but maybe it is necessary for them to be so fine to be able render very detailed Hanzi characters? I think there was some discussion somewhat related to this pango issue between Qianqian and Behdad not so long ago on fedora-fonts-list IIRC and also elsewhere. Shao, I think if you specify a Chinese font in the gedit preferences it looks ok, no? So I think this is really comes down to pango. We could try reassigning to pango, but unless someone has some real ideas how to improve it upstream it is probably unlikely to get changed yet. (But sure, I guess the Qt embolden issue is worth pursuing upstream.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 441213] [i18n] [zh_CN] Rendering different bold effect
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [i18n] [zh_CN] Rendering different bold effect https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441213 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-02 05:41 EST --- (In reply to comment #14) If the problems are reported against QT apps I sort of doubt pango is involved. No, the complaint was that the rendering in konqueror and gedit is different. Actually Qt seems to be doing the right thing here and it is pango that is using a different font for the Western characters in the screenshot as is a well-known problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 452357] The mathml-fonts package needs some cleaning up
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: The mathml-fonts package needs some cleaning up https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452357 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Keywords||FutureFeature --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-02 11:52 EST --- Nod, such cleanups have been a long-standing todo item of mine. Still pondering the best approach to take here. brainstorm: 1 make each upstream a subpkg 2 kill mathml-fonts altogether, package each upstream separately 3 some combo of 1 and 2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 450810] Baekmuk Dotum slash '/' is very wide
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Baekmuk Dotum slash '/' is very wide https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450810 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-02 19:28 EST --- Patch of openoffice to change requires from fonts-korean to baekmuk-ttf-fonts rely on this bug. OO has to be patched again when default Korean font is changed. (bug#453868) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: GNU Unifont update
Le Mer 2 juillet 2008 10:59, Debarshi Ray a écrit : The maintaining expense for both packages is not that much though. I would be glad to maintain GNU Unifont, or show Paul how to do that if he wants. The spec files for both packages can be almost identical. Do you still want to do this? :) It would be nice to have Unifont in Fedora. Or more generaly to have more fonts in Fedora. It's been ages since anyone but the usual suspects packaged a new font in Fedora (and a fixed team does not scale) Is someone already doing this? If not, then I am interested. If yes, then I can help with the review. There are lots of unclaimed fonts on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Font_wishlist If you have the time and interest please do not block on Unifont. Our packaging wishlist has other elements. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
[Fwd: Re: GNU Unifont update]
[FWD because Paul Hardy forrgot to subscribe] I just finished the glyphs and posted them at http://unifoundry.com/unifont.html on 20 June 2008. I then took a vacation I had planned for a long time. I was trying to get something in releasable form before my vacation, but it didn't happen. I intend to package all the sources used to build the GNU Unifont: my software, plus software that Roman Czyborra wrote originally, plus software that Luis Gonzalez Miranda wrote to convert the .hex font into a TrueType font with my modifications, in one source tree with make files and man pages. I've been wrapping this up behind the scenes and expect to finish this weekend. I would like to go through the Fedora release process, starting with just the font and then adding the whole source tree to build the font. Qianqian Fang will be able to guide me through this process (and I've been in frequent contact with him while adding the missing CJK glyphs), but review by anyone else of course would be welcome. If anyone would like updates on this, you can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll keep you posted on the latest developments. Thanks for your interest! Paul Hardy Le Mer 2 juillet 2008 10:59, Debarshi Ray a écrit : The maintaining expense for both packages is not that much though. I would be glad to maintain GNU Unifont, or show Paul how to do that if he wants. The spec files for both packages can be almost identical. Do you still want to do this? :) It would be nice to have Unifont in Fedora. Or more generaly to have more fonts in Fedora. It's been ages since anyone but the usual suspects packaged a new font in Fedora (and a fixed team does not scale) Is someone already doing this? If not, then I am interested. If yes, then I can help with the review. There are lots of unclaimed fonts on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Font_wishlist If you have the time and interest please do not block on Unifont. Our packaging wishlist has other elements. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Re: Patch to arch/x86/mm/init_32.c causes EFI-32 machines to reboot early in startup
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, Peter Jones wrote:
Hi. Using git bisect, I've discovered that commit
61165d7a035f6571c7576e7f51e7230157724c8d is the cause of 32-bit Intel Mac
machines to reboot very early during startup when booting with EFI (but not if
using BIOS). The last change in that commit is:
diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/init_32.c b/arch/x86/mm/init_32.c
index de236e4..ec30d10 100644
--- a/arch/x86/mm/init_32.c
+++ b/arch/x86/mm/init_32.c
@@ -438,8 +438,6 @@ void zap_low_mappings(void)
{
int i;
- save_pg_dir();
-
/*
* Zap initial low-memory mappings.
*
@@ -663,16 +661,8 @@ void __init mem_init(void)
test_wp_bit();
cpa_init();
-
- /*
-* Subtle. SMP is doing it's boot stuff late (because it has to
-* fork idle threads) - but it also needs low mappings for the
-* protected-mode entry to work. We zap these entries only after
-* the WP-bit has been tested.
-*/
-#ifndef CONFIG_SMP
+ save_pg_dir();
zap_low_mappings();
-#endif
}
#ifdef CONFIG_MEMORY_HOTPLUG
If I put the #ifndef CONFIG_SMP back, it no longer fails to boot.
Hmm, I'm sorry about that: thanks for letting us know. We haven't
heard of any such failure on 2.6.26-rc, but that's probably because
Fedora is doing the wider testing for us.
What can I do to help debug this and get it fixed?
Ooh, send me a 32-bit Intel Mac ;-?
But perhaps that'll take too long. I would like to see the .config
involved; but if it's a CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y (or a CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y),
then please try the patch below - against 2.6.26-rc8, I hope that's
close enough to the Fedora kernel you're testing.
The EFI calls appear to be doing their own low mapping as required,
but it seems to me they've got confused between PSE and PAE: I don't
see why PSE would be relevant at this level, whereas PAE would indeed
cause each swapper_pg_dir entry to map much larger areas. You almost
certainly have PSE active, so with the current code I believe they
would be mapping half as much as intended, so relying on early boot's
low_mappings for the other half.
If this patch does not fix it for you, then other things to try...
Does a CONFIG_SMP=n kernel boot okay with EFI? I'd expect it to
suffer from the same problem, and it just hasn't been tried because
you've got 2 or more cores on those machines? But confirmation or
denial would be interesting.
And I've attached a patch which in the efi_enabled case moves that
zap_low_mappings() from mem_init() to end of efi_enter_virtual_mode().
(It would be nice to merge efi_enter_virtual_mode() into mem_init(),
but I suspect that cannot be done: it looks to me like it's done
somewhat later in the start_kernel() sequence (see init/main.c) than
is necessary, but probably couldn't be done before kmem_cache_init().
Though I don't know much about it and don't have suitable box to test.)
If the patch below doesn't fix the problem, but the patch attached
does fix it, then it at least narrows the scope we have to look at,
and gives you something to run with correctly for now (the fix you
made above, putting back the #ifndef CONFIG_SMP, leaves low mappings
there forever, which caused segfaults and other weirdness later).
I've got my fingers crossed: please let us know, thanks.
Hugh
--- 2.6.26-rc8/arch/x86/kernel/efi_32.c 2008-04-17 03:49:44.0 +0100
+++ linux/arch/x86/kernel/efi_32.c 2008-07-02 17:02:36.0 +0100
@@ -49,13 +49,13 @@ void efi_call_phys_prelog(void)
local_irq_save(efi_rt_eflags);
/*
-* If I don't have PSE, I should just duplicate two entries in page
-* directory. If I have PSE, I just need to duplicate one entry in
+* If I don't have PAE, I should just duplicate two entries in page
+* directory. If I have PAE, I just need to duplicate one entry in
* page directory.
*/
cr4 = read_cr4();
- if (cr4 X86_CR4_PSE) {
+ if (cr4 X86_CR4_PAE) {
efi_bak_pg_dir_pointer[0].pgd =
swapper_pg_dir[pgd_index(0)].pgd;
swapper_pg_dir[0].pgd =
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ void efi_call_phys_epilog(void)
cr4 = read_cr4();
- if (cr4 X86_CR4_PSE) {
+ if (cr4 X86_CR4_PAE) {
swapper_pg_dir[pgd_index(0)].pgd =
efi_bak_pg_dir_pointer[0].pgd;
} else {--- 2.6.26-rc8/arch/x86/kernel/efi.c2008-05-03 21:54:40.0 +0100
+++ linux/arch/x86/kernel/efi.c 2008-07-02 17:29:32.0 +0100
@@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
#include linux/io.h
#include linux/reboot.h
#include linux/bcd.h
+#include linux/smp.h
#include asm/setup.h
#include asm/efi.h
@@ -485,6 +486,7 @@ void __init efi_enter_virtual_mode(void)
runtime_code_page_mkexec();
early_iounmap(memmap.map, memmap.nr_map * memmap.desc_size);
memmap.map = NULL;
+ zap_low_mappings();
}
/*
---
Re: Patch to arch/x86/mm/init_32.c causes EFI-32 machines to reboot early in startup
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Peter Jones wrote: Hugh Dickins wrote: Does a CONFIG_SMP=n kernel boot okay with EFI? I'd expect it to suffer from the same problem, and it just hasn't been tried because you've got 2 or more cores on those machines? But confirmation or denial would be interesting. Well, it hasn't been tried with CONFIG_SMP=n simply because in Fedora we haven't been building uniprocessor kernels since SMP alternatives came about. Right. I've got my fingers crossed: please let us know, thanks. Hugh --- 2.6.26-rc8/arch/x86/kernel/efi_32.c 2008-04-17 03:49:44.0 +0100 +++ linux/arch/x86/kernel/efi_32.c 2008-07-02 17:02:36.0 +0100 [...] The inline patch works, thanks! Oh, that's good news, thank you! I'll write a better description and send it off to Linus and Ingo for 2.6.26 now. I'll say Fedora reports... and say Tested-by: Peter Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED], would that be appropriate? Hugh ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: Patch to arch/x86/mm/init_32.c causes EFI-32 machines to reboot early in startup
Hugh Dickins wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Peter Jones wrote: The inline patch works, thanks! Oh, that's good news, thank you! I'll write a better description and send it off to Linus and Ingo for 2.6.26 now. I'll say Fedora reports... and say Tested-by: Peter Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED], would that be appropriate? That's fine by me, though TBF I don't think any /users/ have actually reported it, not counting myself. -- Peter ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: ICQ Patch
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, I just filed a RFE to apply a patch to Pidgin that makes it work with ICQ again https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453691 Just a heads up. Rahul I tried going to the URL mentioned in the bug description and the site is pretty much unavailable right now for whatever reason. I think it might help if you attached a copy of the patch to the RFE. BTW, I'm not a Fedora dev, don't ask me to apply it :) New versions of pidgin are being build as we speak. So you can pretty much ignore it for now and just wait. Rahul Sit back and relax -- that I can definitely do ;) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse
Steve Dowe wrote: I think I have the answer (below). ... Option AccelMethod EXA Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it didn't last that long. I had another hang this morning when moving a Windows window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box). I'll keep working on it! Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ICQ Patch
Am Dienstag, den 01.07.2008, 23:36 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, I just filed a RFE to apply a patch to Pidgin that makes it work with ICQ again https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453691 Just a heads up. Rahul I tried going to the URL mentioned in the bug description and the site is pretty much unavailable right now for whatever reason. I think it might help if you attached a copy of the patch to the RFE. BTW, I'm not a Fedora dev, don't ask me to apply it :) New versions of pidgin are being build as we speak. So you can pretty much ignore it for now and just wait. Rahul Sit back and relax -- that I can definitely do ;) :-) Pidgin 2.4.3 is there... http://pidgin.im/ http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 update problem (kernel-uname needed)
Somebody has seen this? sudo yum -y update Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * livna: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de * fedora: ftp.esat.net * updates: ftp.esat.net Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package revisor-gui.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package ruby-libs.i386 0:1.8.6.230-3.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gdm.i386 1:2.22.0-8.fc9 set to be updated --- Package kmod-nvidia.i686 0:173.14.09-2.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 = 173.14.09-2.lvn9 for package: kmod-nvidia --- Package selinux-policy.noarch 0:3.3.1-72.fc9 set to be updated --- Package ruby.i386 0:1.8.6.230-3.fc9 set to be updated --- Package revisor-cli.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package ghostscript.i386 0:8.62-4.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gdm-user-switch-applet.i386 1:2.22.0-8.fc9 set to be updated --- Package selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:3.3.1-72.fc9 set to be updated --- Package revisor-comps.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package sgml-common.noarch 0:0.6.3-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package python-setuptools.noarch 0:0.6c8-1.fc9 set to be updated --- Package kde-settings.noarch 0:4.0-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package revisor.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package xml-common.noarch 0:0.6.3-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package selinux-policy-devel.noarch 0:3.3.1-72.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gimp.i386 2:2.4.6-1.fc9 set to be updated --- Package kde-settings-kdm.noarch 0:4.0-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gimp-libs.i386 2:2.4.6-1.fc9 set to be updated -- Running transaction check --- Package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686.i686 0:173.14.09-2.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 for package: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 -- Finished Dependency Resolution kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686-173.14.09-2.lvn9.i686 from livna has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686-173.14.09-2.lvn9.i686 (livna) Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686-173.14.09-2.lvn9.i686 (livna) Regards -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Pidgin/Kopete problems with ICQ
Il giorno mer, 02/07/2008 alle 09.56 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I cannot use pidgin-2.4.2-1.fc8 to connect the ICQ server now Also for me... I can't connect to ICQ with pidgin.x86_64 2.4.2-1.fc8 On pidgin.im there is a 2.4.3 version but is not provided for fedora 7 and above, so we have to wait for maintainer of fedora to make a new version available for download. I hope it will be very quick bye Ambrogio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: enter password for default keyring to unlock
2008/7/1 max [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Burns wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Richard England [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that you an remove the current password by removing the file .gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring This worked for me. I deleted that file, logged out, logged back in, NetworkManager brought up the usual dialog to authenticate to the wireless system. Logged out in a few times to see if the keyring dialog would come back, it didn't. Maybe it will come back when my wireless session expires? At which point, if I enter my login password, it should be okay? I hope? Thanks Mick and Richard, Dave Install keyring manager and then you can remove/add keyrings and such. Just play with it a little and you'll get the hang of it. -- Fortune favors the *BOLD* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list I installed the keyring manager but when I start it, I am asket for a password as it wanst to access the login keyring. What does it mean?? what is the loging keyring password??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 update problem (kernel-uname needed)
2008/7/2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Somebody has seen this? sudo yum -y update Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * livna: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de * fedora: ftp.esat.net * updates: ftp.esat.net Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package revisor-gui.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package ruby-libs.i386 0:1.8.6.230-3.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gdm.i386 1:2.22.0-8.fc9 set to be updated --- Package kmod-nvidia.i686 0:173.14.09-2.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 = 173.14.09-2.lvn9 for package: kmod-nvidia --- Package selinux-policy.noarch 0:3.3.1-72.fc9 set to be updated --- Package ruby.i386 0:1.8.6.230-3.fc9 set to be updated --- Package revisor-cli.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package ghostscript.i386 0:8.62-4.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gdm-user-switch-applet.i386 1:2.22.0-8.fc9 set to be updated --- Package selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:3.3.1-72.fc9 set to be updated --- Package revisor-comps.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package sgml-common.noarch 0:0.6.3-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package python-setuptools.noarch 0:0.6c8-1.fc9 set to be updated --- Package kde-settings.noarch 0:4.0-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package revisor.noarch 0:2.1.1-5.fc9 set to be updated --- Package xml-common.noarch 0:0.6.3-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package selinux-policy-devel.noarch 0:3.3.1-72.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gimp.i386 2:2.4.6-1.fc9 set to be updated --- Package kde-settings-kdm.noarch 0:4.0-24.fc9 set to be updated --- Package gimp-libs.i386 2:2.4.6-1.fc9 set to be updated -- Running transaction check --- Package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686.i686 0:173.14.09-2.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 for package: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 -- Finished Dependency Resolution kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686-173.14.09-2.lvn9.i686 from livna has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686-173.14.09-2.lvn9.i686 (livna) Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686-173.14.09-2.lvn9.i686 (livna) The new kernel har not yet been pushed to your fedora-updates mirror, but livna's nvidia packages for the new kernel has. Wait for mirrors to be updated. -- Tarjei -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
gaim problem: version too old in F9
Hi, anybody seen this in F9 when calling gaim: The client version you are using is too old. Please upgrade at http://pidgin.im/ -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: empty log files
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 14:38 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2008/7/1 michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't recall doing anything 'wrong' but I now notice most of my log files are, unexpectedly, empty (see example, below). Anybody care to suggest how I can debug why this is so? Thanks, M Did you by chance happen to install vmware? Installing vmware seems to change the SEli9nux context of /etc/services, which prevents syslog from working. To fix: 1) run /sbin/restorecon -v /etc/services 2) /sbin/service syslog restart yes I had installed vmware! what a mess up by them... I've got it all working now, thanks M -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: gaim problem: version too old in F9
yes, pidgin 4.2.3 is available already also check these repositories: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=3460 P.S. hello everyone, I'm new here 2008/7/2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, anybody seen this in F9 when calling gaim: The client version you are using is too old. Please upgrade at http://pidgin.im/ -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Regards, Ivan Cat -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Help with notebook wi-fi
Robert O. Kahl wrote: I'm unable to get wifi working on my Presario Laptop (H-P) Model V6719NR. Any Help would be appreciated. The system is setup with Fedora 8/KDE, dual boot with Vista The start-up error message shows: Bringing up interface for wlan0. Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) SET failed on device wlan0; invalid argument Determining IP info for wlan0...[FAILED] The boot sequence stops and then resumes after exactly 60 seconds! The KDE Network Device Manager shows it recognizes the Atheros chipset, but I can't Activate it. A dmesg dump shows: ath5k phy0: Atheros 2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70 (Incidentally, it works OK in Vista. Their Device Manager shows the chip is an Atheros AR007) Any advice on how to correct the invalid argument and to proceed would be greately appreciated. I don't think these SET errors are usually fatal. What does iwconfig say? Maybe the problem is just with dhcp on the machine you are trying to connect to? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Fedora 9 / pcscd
The 'pcscd' daemon on Fedora 9 works but spews messages into the messages file example I cant show an example because copy/paste from konsole into Thunderbird no longer seems to work . wtf ? (both issues) begin:vcard tel;work:843-218-6521 version:2.1 end:vcard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Kernel 2.6.25 (F8/F9) problem
On this kind of server (HP ProLiant DL380 G5) http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_e04ad1d7-e691-4b54-a3b6-1a5ff974d5bd It's NOT possible install then use F9 and F8+update. This is a HP common server, since there is the problem for over a month, means that no one is using Fedora 8 + update or Fedora 9 on this kind of server. If someone was able to run Fedora 8 + Updates or Fedora 9 on these servers, please let me know how to do. The problem witch I have fount is this: Subject: f8/f9 on HP: kernel 2.6.25.x problem if I install f9-i386 (kernel 2.6.25) or install f8-i386+upgrade with last kernel 2.6.25 I get this error: invalid opcode: [#1] SMP Modules linked in: sg ipmi_si(+) hpwdt(+) ipmi_msghandler bnx2 button iTCO_wdt sr_mod pcspkr iTCO_vendor_support i5000_edac edac_core cdrom ata_piix libata cciss sd_mod scsi_mod dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror dm_mod xfs uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Pid: 1173, comm: modprobe Not tainted (2.6.25.4-10.fc8PAE #1) EIP: 0060:[f7c5edca] EFLAGS: 00210286 CPU: 3 EIP is at 0xf7c5edca EAX: 5f32335f EBX: 000f ECX: 00cd0100 EDX: ESI: d0ff EDI: c39bd09b EBP: f7c5eda8 ESP: f7c5ed78 DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068 Process modprobe (pid: 1173, ti=f7c5e000 task=f6e08e70 task.ti=f7c5e000) Stack: f89c54a9 0060 007b 00200286 f7949000 ffed f7c5eda8 f7c5eda8 c00ffee0 000f1fff c00f f7c5edc8 c00f c00ffee0 f7c5edc8 c00f f89c65d0 f89c65a0 f7949000 f7c5eddc c050659d f7949054 Call Trace: [f89c54a9] ? hpwdt_init_one+0x18b/0x3a3 [hpwdt] [c050659d] ? pci_device_probe+0x39/0x5b [c056a66b] ? driver_probe_device+0xc0/0x137 [c056a806] ? __driver_attach+0x73/0xa9 [c0569baf] ? bus_for_each_dev+0x37/0x5c [c056a4f0] ? driver_attach+0x14/0x16 [c056a793] ? __driver_attach+0x0/0xa9 [c056a2fd] ? bus_add_driver+0x90/0x1b7 [c056a9fc] ? driver_register+0x47/0xa2 [c0506740] ? __pci_register_driver+0x35/0x61 [f89b0017] ? hpwdt_init+0x17/0x19 [hpwdt] [c044649d] ? sys_init_module+0x1610/0x177a [c062e63c] ? do_page_fault+0x528/0x909 [c0437238] ? param_get_int+0x0/0x15 [c0484bd3] ? do_sync_read+0x0/0xe9 [c0485896] ? sys_read+0x3b/0x60 [c0404b7a] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb === Code: 00 ff 1f 0f 00 00 00 0f c0 c8 ed c5 f7 00 00 0f c0 e0 fe 0f c0 c8 ed c5 f7 00 00 0f c0 d0 65 9c f8 a0 65 9c f8 00 90 94 f7 dc ed c5 f7 9d 65 50 c0 54 90 94 f7 00 00 00 00 d0 65 9c f8 f4 ed c5 EIP: [f7c5edca] 0xf7c5edca SS:ESP 0068:f7c5ed78 ---[ end trace 732bbc392f92b3f6 ]--- input: Ups Manufacturing RS232-USB converter as /class/input/input5 input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [Ups Manufacturing RS232-USB converter] on usb-:00:1d.2-2 usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0a6d, idProduct=0005 usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 4-2: Product: RS232-USB converter usb 4-2: Manufacturer: Ups Manufacturing usb 6-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input6 input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.01 Keyboard [HP Virtual Keyboard] on usb-:01:04.4-1 input: HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input7 input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.01 Mouse [HP Virtual Keyboard] on usb-:01:04.4-1 usb 6-1: New USB device found, idVendor=03f0, idProduct=1027 usb 6-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 6-1: Product: Virtual Keyboard usb 6-1: Manufacturer: HP usb 6-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found hub 6-2:1.0: 7 ports detected usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=03f0, idProduct=1327 usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 6-2: Product: Virtual Hub usb 6-2: Manufacturer: HP NET: Registered protocol family 10 lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:03.0[A] - GSI 23 (level, low) - IRQ 23 device-mapper: multipath: version 1.0.5 loaded (this errore is grab from dmesg of f8+upd) F8 after a lot of timeout during the boot start, but f9+update or f9 +update-testing or f9+update-rawhide (2.6.26) not start ... -- Dario Lesca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: USB memory stick won't mount [SOLVED???]
Brian Mury wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:58 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: It looks from the messages that it is being properly detected, but HAL is not mounting it. While it does not explain the problem, you lsusb shows it as Feiya Technology Corp. Memory Bar. Google found this, and some other similar pages: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=443674page=2 Unfortunately that fix didn't work for me - the entry in 10-usb-music-players.fdi does not exist. may be able to get it to mount if you give it a label. For the FAT file system used on most memory sticks, it is easy to do in Windows, but it is a bit complicated to do in Linux. I tried it in Windows, it appears to already have a label (CORSAIR). If I mount it from the shell, as root, it shows up as 8.1 GB Media, no name... and the USB Drive is still there and unmountable (that is, there are two separate GNOME icons after mounting). It is formatted as FAT32, BTW, so that should be ok. === Ok... This is strange... While writing this email, I was moving the drive back and forth between a Windows and a Fedora box. I mounted it as root, wrote a short text file to it, moved it to Windows, edited the file, moved it back to Fedora and it worked... Tried unplugging/plugging a few tries and it seems fine. Weird So now it mounts as a non-root user? Or was it never unmounted but just yanked from the machine? Sounds like a permissions problem with your mounting as a non-root user. K -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Kernel 2.6.25 (F8/F9) problem
I am seeing the same problem but on a Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 laptop instead an HP system. The problem may not be Fedora specific since I having what appears to be the same problem when I tried to install Ubuntu 8.0.4 on my new laptop. I am configuring my laptop as a dual boot system with Vista Ultimate (installed first) and Fedora 9. Steven F. LeBrun http://www.lebruns.com Quote of the Week: Zoology, eh? That's a big word, isn't it No, actually it isn't, said Tiffany. Patronizing is a big word. Zoology is really quite short. -- Terry Pratchett from The Wee Free Men -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dario Lesca Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:41 AM To: Fedora Development Subject: Kernel 2.6.25 (F8/F9) problem On this kind of server (HP ProLiant DL380 G5) http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_e04ad1d7-e691-4b54-a3b6-1a5ff974d5bd It's NOT possible install then use F9 and F8+update. This is a HP common server, since there is the problem for over a month, means that no one is using Fedora 8 + update or Fedora 9 on this kind of server. If someone was able to run Fedora 8 + Updates or Fedora 9 on these servers, please let me know how to do. The problem witch I have fount is this: Subject: f8/f9 on HP: kernel 2.6.25.x problem if I install f9-i386 (kernel 2.6.25) or install f8-i386+upgrade with last kernel 2.6.25 I get this error: invalid opcode: [#1] SMP Modules linked in: sg ipmi_si(+) hpwdt(+) ipmi_msghandler bnx2 button iTCO_wdt sr_mod pcspkr iTCO_vendor_support i5000_edac edac_core cdrom ata_piix libata cciss sd_mod scsi_mod dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror dm_mod xfs uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Pid: 1173, comm: modprobe Not tainted (2.6.25.4-10.fc8PAE #1) EIP: 0060:[f7c5edca] EFLAGS: 00210286 CPU: 3 EIP is at 0xf7c5edca EAX: 5f32335f EBX: 000f ECX: 00cd0100 EDX: ESI: d0ff EDI: c39bd09b EBP: f7c5eda8 ESP: f7c5ed78 DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068 Process modprobe (pid: 1173, ti=f7c5e000 task=f6e08e70 task.ti=f7c5e000) Stack: f89c54a9 0060 007b 00200286 f7949000 ffed f7c5eda8 f7c5eda8 c00ffee0 000f1fff c00f f7c5edc8 c00f c00ffee0 f7c5edc8 c00f f89c65d0 f89c65a0 f7949000 f7c5eddc c050659d f7949054 Call Trace: [f89c54a9] ? hpwdt_init_one+0x18b/0x3a3 [hpwdt] [c050659d] ? pci_device_probe+0x39/0x5b [c056a66b] ? driver_probe_device+0xc0/0x137 [c056a806] ? __driver_attach+0x73/0xa9 [c0569baf] ? bus_for_each_dev+0x37/0x5c [c056a4f0] ? driver_attach+0x14/0x16 [c056a793] ? __driver_attach+0x0/0xa9 [c056a2fd] ? bus_add_driver+0x90/0x1b7 [c056a9fc] ? driver_register+0x47/0xa2 [c0506740] ? __pci_register_driver+0x35/0x61 [f89b0017] ? hpwdt_init+0x17/0x19 [hpwdt] [c044649d] ? sys_init_module+0x1610/0x177a [c062e63c] ? do_page_fault+0x528/0x909 [c0437238] ? param_get_int+0x0/0x15 [c0484bd3] ? do_sync_read+0x0/0xe9 [c0485896] ? sys_read+0x3b/0x60 [c0404b7a] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb === Code: 00 ff 1f 0f 00 00 00 0f c0 c8 ed c5 f7 00 00 0f c0 e0 fe 0f c0 c8 ed c5 f7 00 00 0f c0 d0 65 9c f8 a0 65 9c f8 00 90 94 f7 dc ed c5 f7 9d 65 50 c0 54 90 94 f7 00 00 00 00 d0 65 9c f8 f4 ed c5 EIP: [f7c5edca] 0xf7c5edca SS:ESP 0068:f7c5ed78 ---[ end trace 732bbc392f92b3f6 ]--- input: Ups Manufacturing RS232-USB converter as /class/input/input5 input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [Ups Manufacturing RS232-USB converter] on usb-:00:1d.2-2 usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0a6d, idProduct=0005 usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 4-2: Product: RS232-USB converter usb 4-2: Manufacturer: Ups Manufacturing usb 6-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input6 input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.01 Keyboard [HP Virtual Keyboard] on usb-:01:04.4-1 input: HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input7 input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.01 Mouse [HP Virtual Keyboard] on usb-:01:04.4-1 usb 6-1: New USB device found, idVendor=03f0, idProduct=1027 usb 6-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 6-1: Product: Virtual Keyboard usb 6-1: Manufacturer: HP usb 6-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found hub 6-2:1.0: 7 ports detected usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=03f0, idProduct=1327 usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 6-2: Product: Virtual Hub usb 6-2: Manufacturer: HP NET: Registered protocol family 10 lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:03.0[A] - GSI 23 (level, low) - IRQ 23 device-mapper: multipath: version 1.0.5 loaded (this errore
Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse
... Option AccelMethod EXA Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it didn't last that long. I had another hang this morning when moving a Windows window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box). I'll keep working on it! Same section, but using Option DRI off .. seems to have had a positive effect. Might be in some way related to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436632 HTH! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Google toolbar for Firefox
stan wrote: I installed the google toolbar in firefox 2 days ago, but when I tried to install it on another machine today I got the message: Google Toolbar for Firefox 3.1.20080605L could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.0b5. I assume from this that the toolbar was updated very recently. Is there a version of the toolbar that is compatible with the current version of Firefox in standard Fedora? Firefox 3.0b5 is the beta that came with the release of Fedora 9. It has been updated to Firefox 3.0 final on the Fedora repositories for Fedora 9. Perhaps that is the source of the problem. Maybe running yum update firefoxwill solve the problem? Thanks very much. That was indeed the problem. I had forgotten to yum update after installing Fedora-9 from the KDE Live CD on my large (250GB) new disk. This installation was one up on Windows, since the Fedora installation to hard disk went without any problems, while after installing Windows XP on this ThinkPad T43 neither ethernet nor WiFi was working. I had to use a PCMCIA-to-ethernet card to run Windows Update. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
Andrew Kelly wrote: There is also a large amount of work that needs to be done on fixing software that doesn't react well to network connections disappearing underneath them as happens often with wireless networks on laptops and mobile systems. Rahul As much as I am not a fan of NetworkManager, I think I have to give that post an A'men. 'Specially that last sentence. NM is a worthy target for criticism, but it shouldn't be a punching boy for other applications weaknesses. But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? I don't think you can blame other applications for problems this causes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.
Mike Evans wrote: For machines with a wired connection I have been in the habit of disabling NM and using the good old network service. Works like a dream and doesn't need tampering with. You can do that through the Admin-services gui if you don't like fiddling with the links in the init directories. But most people nowadays use a WiFi connection, at least on laptops, so the advice to use the good old network service is not much help. as the network service is much, much worse than NM with WiFi in my experience. Both are completely undocumented, so one is in the world of magic. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
Timothy Murphy wrote: But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. It is a system service which starts at boot. nm-applet(GNOME) or Knetworkmanager (KDE) is just a frontend to the system service called NM. It is possible to write a console frontend to do a similar task for the non-desktop case but NM atleast initially was designed to make wireless network access easier. It has grown additional functionality over time however. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Problems installing Fedora 9 on SatelliteA305-S6825
Hi, Has anyone successfully installed Linux on a Satellite A305-S6825 laptop? I have tried both Fedora 9 and Ubuntu 8.0.4 unsuccessfully. What does it take to install Linux, Fedora 9 specifically on the Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 laptop? Am I missing a driver or is there another problem? Any suggestions, feedback or comments are welcome. BTW. This is my second attempt at this message. I apologize if both of them show up. == I am attempting to configure my laptop for dual boot between Vista and Fedora. Vista has been reduced to a 40 GB partition on the 250 GB HDD with the rest of the space partitioned into a set of Ext3 and [one] swap partitions (/boot, swap, /, /usr, /usr/local, /tmp, /var and /opt). I can see the Ext3 partitions from Vista as Ext2 file systems with a third party driver. In the case of Fedora 9, the install DVD runs as follows: - starts loading, writing startup (dmesg) text to monitor. - displays a stack trace (only part of trace is visible on the screen) - displays another 3/4 screen of text - hangs for a few minutes - Displays curses GUI asking to select Language (I selected English) - Displays curses GUI asking to select Keyboard Type (again, I select English) - Displays curses GUI asking for Installation Method (See selection below. I selected local CD/DVD). -- Local CD/DVD -- Hard Drive -- NFS Directory -- URL - Displays curses GUI stating No Driver Found. - Selecting the Select Driver button moves to a list of drivers, mostly, NIC drivers. - Selecting any driver causes the system to hang until rebooted. = I have also attempted to boot the laptop from Live CDs for both Ubuntu and Fedora. Both Live CDs had trouble loading. The Ubuntu was only able to boot to a command line while Fedora managed to get the Gnome GUI up and running. In both cases, dmesg showed that there was a NULL kernel pointer encountered and a call to /sbin/modprobe crashed with the dump of the crash displayed in dmesg text. The Fedora 9 Live is able to see the swap partition that I pre-configured so I am assuming that Fedora can access my HDD and I was able to copy the dmesg text to a USB flash drive and a USB HDD. During the login to Fedora 9 Live, there is a pop-up that states that there was a Kernel failure but does not states any details. Part of the Dmesg text: input: Power Button (FF) as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input6 ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present) ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] input: Power Button (CM) as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input7 ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB] input: Lid Switch as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0D:00/input/input8 ACPI: Lid Switch [LID] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.2LK-NAPI loaded PCI: :02:00.0 has unsupported PM cap regs version (7) ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:00.0[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 PCI: Setting latency timer of device :02:00.0 to 64 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0124 IP: [c05601b5] dev_driver_string+0x1/0x2a *pde = bea4f067 Oops: [#1] SMP Modules linked in: r8169(+) v4l1_compat button battery ac soundcore pcspkr iTCO_wdt cfg80211 joydev iTCO_vendor_support sg ext3 jbd mbcache dm_snapshot dm_mod squashfs usb_storage ata_piix pata_acpi sd_mod ata_generic ahci libata sdhci firewire_ohci firewire_core crc_itu_t mmc_core ehci_hcd uhci_hcd loop sr_mod scsi_mod cdrom Pid: 1423, comm: modprobe Not tainted (2.6.25-14.fc9.i686 #1) EIP: 0060:[c05601b5] EFLAGS: 00010206 CPU: 0 EIP is at dev_driver_string+0x1/0x2a EAX: 0054 EBX: 00f0 ECX: EDX: f8c55548 ESI: 37a0 EDI: f74ea454 EBP: f6ad8dd0 ESP: f6ad8d54 DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068 Process modprobe (pid: 1423, ti=f6ad8000 task=f6b6ee90 task.ti=f6ad8000) Stack: f6ad8dd0 f8c549e7 d001 f72106b8 0028 f74ea400 f8c550dc f6328500 f6328000 f8c06000 f6ad8db4 c04bc269 f6ad8db4 f6b90c90 f6ad8da8 c04bc35e f6ad8db4 f6b90c90 f6ad8dd0 f74ea4cc f6ad8dbc Call Trace: [f8c549e7] ? rtl8169_init_one+0x356/0x9b3 [r8169] [c04bc269] ? sysfs_find_dirent+0x16/0x27 [c04bc35e] ? sysfs_add_one+0x14/0xa6 [c04fea0f] ? pci_match_device+0x8f/0x95 [c04feac9] ? pci_device_probe+0x39/0x59 [c0562826] ? driver_probe_device+0xa0/0x136 [c0562935] ? __driver_attach+0x79/0xaf [c05621d3] ? bus_for_each_dev+0x3b/0x63 [c05626cb] ? driver_attach+0x14/0x16 [c05628bc] ? __driver_attach+0x0/0xaf [c0561ba4] ? bus_add_driver+0x9d/0x1ba [c0562ab8] ? driver_register+0x47/0xa7 [c047592d] ? __vunmap+0x93/0x9b [c04fec75] ? __pci_register_driver+0x35/0x64 [f8c04017] ? rtl8169_init_module+0x17/0x19 [r8169] [c0446f93] ? sys_init_module+0x17be/0x18f6 [c04d3577] ? selinux_file_permission+0x100/0x106 [c045c76c] ? disable_irq+0x0/0x2a [c04cc41c] ? security_file_permission+0xf/0x11 [c04835e1] ? sys_read+0x3b/0x60 [c0405bf2] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb === Code: 85 c0 79 20 68
Re: enter password for default keyring to unlock
max wrote: I believe that you an remove the current password by removing the file .gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring This worked for me. I deleted that file, logged out, logged back in, NetworkManager brought up the usual dialog to authenticate to the wireless system. Logged out in a few times to see if the keyring dialog would come back, it didn't. Maybe it will come back when my wireless session expires? At which point, if I enter my login password, it should be okay? I hope? Install keyring manager and then you can remove/add keyrings and such. Just play with it a little and you'll get the hang of it. But what is the point of this absurd rigmarole? One would have thought there were enough problems with NM without inventing still more hurdles for people to jump over. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora Core 9: xorg savage driver freezes display
1lnxraider wrote: I recently updated FC8 to FC9 and in so doing the new Savage Driver version 2.2.0-2 freezes the display on initializing the video card, a quad vga Colorgraphic Predator LT 4 PCI. Thru trial and error I was to get a simple test to work partially. That is 3 of the 4 screens will initialize and display the test session (ie X -config /xorg.conf.new) by using the option NoInt10 in each device section. This same hardware setup previously worked under FC6-8 and no longer works on FC9. The base system is a Dell Precision 340 with 512Mb RAM and an Intel 4 2.66Ghz CPU. The system is configured to operate under quad displays with Xinerama set to true. Any ideas? Have you tried running sudo yum update? I had a problem with a machine (ThinkPad T23, I think) with a Savage card when I first installed Fedora-9, but the update seemed to solve it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Does one have to be a sound engineer?
I installed Fedora-9 (from the KDE Live CD) on a big new disk on my laptop (ThinkPad T43) yesterday, and found that sound was not working. I noticed on left-clicking on the sound icon in the panel that the sound mixer was muted, and the sound was set at minimal level as well. Why? Surely the rational setup would be to have sound working at a reasonably high level when one logs on? Anyway, after unmuting the sound and increasing the level I found there was still no sound. Left-clicking on the sound icon, and then left clicking on the word Mixer in the small window that appeared brought up a KMix window. I noticed that the Front slider was set at the minimal level in this, and pushing it up started sound working. What exactly does Front mean? Windows XP seems to get by without all this sophistication. As far as I can see, all I can do under Windows is make the sound stronger or weaker. I must say that is all I want. Am I alone in feeling there is too much expertise, and not enough common sense, in the Linux sound community? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
Rahul Sundaram wrote: But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. It is a system service which starts at boot. nm-applet(GNOME) or Knetworkmanager (KDE) is just a frontend to the system service called NM. It is possible to write a console frontend to do a similar task for the non-desktop case but NM atleast initially was designed to make wireless network access easier. It has grown additional functionality over time however. Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. When I say that NM waits until the user logs in I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP until I login. Therefore any application that requires me to be connected has to wait until I login. This doesn't worry me particularly, but it does puzzle me. I am asking the reason for this delay. Perhaps if there was some minimal documentation for NM this might be clear. The standard network service, on the rare occasions when it works for me, does not wait for me to login. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Fedora 9 / pcscd
'pcscd' works fine but spews messages into /var/log/messages example Oh,I cant show an example because copy/paste from konsole to Thunderbird no longer works . wtf ? (both issues) Installed Fedora 9 yesterday begin:vcard tel;work:843-218-6521 version:2.1 end:vcard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
PostgreSQL-glom error
Greetings, Get the following error when trying to start glom postgresql gui database designer: Your installation of Glom is not complete, because the PostgreSQL libgda provider is not available on your system. This provider is needed to access Postgres database servers. Please report this bug to your vendor, or your system administrator so it can be corrected. If I try to start it from a command line there is this additional information: ** (glom:26193): WARNING **: Error: /usr/lib/libgda-3.0/providers/libgda-bdb.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 Thanks. Max Pyziur [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
Hi; I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous Double checking grub-install ?? lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. I think I now have more of a focus. To recap: I am getting a double Fedora grub splashimage at boot. I have a dual boot system with WindowsXP on sda and Fedora 9 on sdb. I have some experience with installing grub but made a typo type mistake during a grub install a month ago and I think (??) that might have been the root of my double splashimage problem. To check the mbr, I ran on /dev/sda: ~]# dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/sda | od -Ax -tx1z -v it returned: ... 000160 7c be 85 7d e8 40 00 eb 0e be 8a 7d e8 38 00 eb |[EMAIL PROTECTED] 000170 06 be 94 7d e8 30 00 be 99 7d e8 2a 00 eb fe 47 ...}.0...}.*...G 000180 52 55 42 20 00 47 65 6f 6d 00 48 61 72 64 20 44 RUB .Geom.Hard D 000190 69 73 6b 00 52 65 61 64 00 20 45 72 72 6f 72 00 isk.Read. Error. 0001a0 bb 01 00 b4 0e cd 10 ac 3c 00 75 f4 c3 00 00 00 .u. ... [Notice the GRUB string on the second and third line and Error on the fourth line] Then, I ran on /dev/sdb: ]# dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/sdb | od -Ax -tx1z -v it returned: ... 000160 7c be 85 7d e8 40 00 eb 0e be 8a 7d e8 38 00 eb |[EMAIL PROTECTED] 000170 06 be 94 7d e8 30 00 be 99 7d e8 2a 00 eb fe 47 ...}.0...}.*...G 000180 52 55 42 20 00 47 65 6f 6d 00 48 61 72 64 20 44 RUB .Geom.Hard D 000190 69 73 6b 00 52 65 61 64 00 20 45 72 72 6f 72 00 isk.Read. Error. 0001a0 bb 01 00 b4 0e cd 10 ac 3c 00 75 f4 c3 00 00 00 .u. ... [Notice the GRUB string on the second and third line as well, and Error on the fourth line] Could this double grub be the source of my problem ? If it is, how do I remove it (from sdb -- I presume)? Others have suggested that the double splashimage is just a video mode switch but then how do I account for the grub appearing on both mbr's -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. When I say that NM waits until the user logs in I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP until I login. Again, you are confusing between NM and nm-applet. Therefore any application that requires me to be connected has to wait until I login. This doesn't worry me particularly, but it does puzzle me. I am asking the reason for this delay. I believe I already answered that. NM was initially designed to manage wireless networks easily where it makes more sense to connect after you login. Refer http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/networkmanager/ Perhaps if there was some minimal documentation for NM this might be clear. Perhaps if you will volunteer to contribute, it would have been done by now. If you want to wait for someone else to do the work, it is going to be done when others find time and interest to do it. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:30 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. It is a system service which starts at boot. nm-applet(GNOME) or Knetworkmanager (KDE) is just a frontend to the system service called NM. It is possible to write a console frontend to do a similar task for the non-desktop case but NM atleast initially was designed to make wireless network access easier. It has grown additional functionality over time however. Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. When I say that NM waits until the user logs in I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP until I login. Therefore any application that requires me to be connected has to wait until I login. This doesn't worry me particularly, but it does puzzle me. I am asking the reason for this delay. Perhaps if there was some minimal documentation for NM this might be clear. The standard network service, on the rare occasions when it works for me, does not wait for me to login. Think about how accessing wireless systems works. If you have to authenticate, then you have to be logged in to do it (or you have to preconfigure it). If you are a mobile user, you may have to do it several times--NM makes the process about as convenient as possible. Authentication should be tied to a user: user A should not necessarily be able to authenticate to user B's WAP unless user A also knows the key. (Apropos another thread, that's why the keyring is used to store encrypted keys.) NM was originally designed primarily for mobile machines that may connect to many different networks or no network, so management by a logged-in user is a reasonable assumption. The F9 NM supposedly also has the ability to set system-level access parameters (including static IPs) and connect at boot, but that mostly makes sense for workstations and servers. (I'm still running F8, so I haven't figured out how to do it yet.) -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Lost DNS lookup (SOLVED)
In a previous message I wrote: A few days ago, a workstation in a lab stopped doing DNS lookups to support connectivity to SMTP, POP, and web services. As I think back, the behavior started in close proximity in time to a stunnel update. Checked the usual locations and all seems to be ok. /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/nsswitch.conf, /etc/host and /etc/networks files look ok. Running ifconfig in a terminal shows that DHCP on the boundary firewall gave it a good address, netmask, and gateway. The machine still serves up an ext3 partition via samba to some windowze machines on the 192.168.1.0 network, and still prints to two network printers via cups (same 192.168.1.0 network), so it is not a hardware problem. The two other windowze machines on the network can reach the web via Firefox, but the fedora 7 box won't, so I don't believe it is a firewall problem (nothing has changed there). As a last resort, I executed the normal windowze solution...a reboot. That did not solve the problem. Lights on the local 8-port switch don't seem to indicate any network traffic when an nslookup command is issued. I don't believe it is issuing DNS requests through the gateway to the dns server...but will confirm with tshark later today/this evening. Any ideas? Problem was a DHCP lease in an ISP provided router/firewall on our boundary that we set to 6 minutes. Per RFC, what normally happens when a lease expires? I would think that the host would ask for another IP and be back up on the net. Dave McGuffey Principal Information System Security Engineer // NSA-IEM, NSA-IAM SAIC, IISBU, Columbia, MD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:43:04 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous Double checking grub-install ?? lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. I think I now have more of a focus. To recap: I am getting a double Fedora grub splashimage at boot. What exactly does that mean? Can you hit keys to enter the first GRUB menu and stop it from booting any entry automatically? I have a dual boot system with WindowsXP on sda and Fedora 9 on sdb. And what does your boot sequence look like? NTLDR on sda? Do you chainload from sda into sdb? And what does your sdb GRUB config look like? Is it really GRUB in the MBR of sdb instead of the boot sector of your boot/root partition? I have some experience with installing grub but made a typo type mistake during a grub install a month ago and I think (??) that might have been the root of my double splashimage problem. To check the mbr, I ran on /dev/sda: ~]# dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/sda | od -Ax -tx1z -v it returned: ... 000160 7c be 85 7d e8 40 00 eb 0e be 8a 7d e8 38 00 eb |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What does it print for the line at offset 0? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 and a GPS -
Gene Heskett wrote: My old Garmin 12 (yeah, it has gray hair) has a very dumb serial interface, so I have to use an adapter to make it usb. And there are no intermittent connection problems? Maybe Prolific has quietly fixed that bug in later issues. Mine are 5 or 6 years old, one I got from the shack, and another I got from Wallies a year or so later. Both of them have been problems. I tried to use one to connect to a ups, but every time it dropped the connection, the ups monitor initiated a shut down about a second later. Several times a day. That, and glancing over at the roadnav screen while in western Iowa, and noted it showing me in downtown Indianapolis IN for 30 seconds just got to be too much. I moved one of them to the heyu circuit, that gave heyu a tummy ache it would segfault die. I asked Charles on the heyu list he said I wasn't the only one having trouble with pl2303's, and he was telling folks to go get the FTDI devices as they seemed to Just Work(TM), and they have, very well, as have the Atmel silicon in a pair of extension cables I use. By intermittent connection problems, do you mean that it would drop characters? One problem I have run into is where the flow control lines are not implemented. If the hardware and/or application are set up to use hardware flow control, this can cause data loss. I don't know if this is the case here. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: RAID 1, F9 not booting up
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I did a fresh install of F9. I created a RAID 1 as follows: RAID Devices /dev/md0 /boot /ext3 100mb /dev/md1 VolGroup00 LVM 476835mb /dev/sda /dev/sda1 Software RAID 100 MB as boot /dev/sda2 Software RAID as Logical Volume Management /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 Software RAID 100 MB as boot /dev/sdb2 Software RAID as Logical Volume Management Then I created a LVM volume as follows: LVM Volume Groups VolGroup00 lvmhome /home /ext3 lvmroot / /ext3 60gb lvmswap /swap 10gb I then installed F9 and when I rebooted I got stuck with the following message: grub loading stage2 I've fixed this before using grub from a rescue cd but not with a RAID setup. Please advise. Thanks, EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list I boot up from a live cd and installed grub on each /boot partition. After that the system booted and I saw both raid disks working in /proc/mdstat EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: USB memory stick won't mount [SOLVED???]
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 07:43 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: So now it mounts as a non-root user? Yes. Or was it never unmounted but just yanked from the machine? No, it was never unplugged without being unmounted. Sounds like a permissions problem with your mounting as a non-root user. Possible, but I'm not convinced. Even when mounted as root, I was getting weird errors trying to access it. It works fine now, no permission problems, and I haven't changed a thing. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
William Case wrote: Hi; I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous Double checking grub-install ?? lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. I think I now have more of a focus. To recap: I am getting a double Fedora grub splashimage at boot. I have a dual boot system with WindowsXP on sda and Fedora 9 on sdb. I have some experience with installing grub but made a typo type mistake during a grub install a month ago and I think (??) that might have been the root of my double splashimage problem. If I remember correctly from the first thread, you would get a brief flash on the screen with Fedora at the top of the screen, a short pause, and then the proper splash screen with Fedora on the bottom. This is a good indication that ether the video card or the monitor are changing modes to properly display the splash screen. I would suspect that it is the monitor changing modes to match the video output. While it will not prove this isn't the problem, it would be interesting to see what happens if you log into the GUI, and then hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and see if you get the same kind behavior. Didn't the problem go away when you turned off the splash screen, and ran Grub in the text mode? Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
grub not working after kernel update
Help: I just upgraded my laptop using yum. Upgrade included a new kernel, after upgrade finished I rebooted. Now all I get is GRUB on my screen. I booted with rescue disk and can see nothing wrong with grub. New kernel is 2.6.26.9-76.fc9.i686. Thanks Lee -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: grub not working after kernel update
-- Original message -- From: lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help: I just upgraded my laptop using yum. Upgrade included a new kernel, after upgrade finished I rebooted. Now all I get is GRUB on my screen. I booted with rescue disk and can see nothing wrong with grub. New kernel is 2.6.26.9-76.fc9.i686. Thanks Lee -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list This happened to me recently. I booted from a live cd and reinstalled grub. After that the system booted up. If you don't know how do it let us knows to get step by step instructions. EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: grub not working after kernel update
Just reinstall grub it might work On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help: I just upgraded my laptop using yum. Upgrade included a new kernel, after upgrade finished I rebooted. Now all I get is GRUB on my screen. I booted with rescue disk and can see nothing wrong with grub. New kernel is 2.6.26.9-76.fc9.i686. Thanks Lee -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Regards, Ivan Cat -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RAID and /boot partitions
Hi, When creating a RAID 1 in F9. Does it make sense to make the /boot partition on both discs a RAID too? I have /boot and / as RAID 1 (dm-0 and dm-1). If I disconnect one of the drives, the computer freezes. Isn't the RAID supposed to keep it running? I'm really new to this, so any help is appreciated. Thanks, EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
Hi Mikkel; On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:54 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: William Case wrote: Hi; I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous Double checking grub-install ?? lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. I think I now have more of a focus. To recap: I am getting a double Fedora grub splashimage at boot. I have a dual boot system with WindowsXP on sda and Fedora 9 on sdb. I have some experience with installing grub but made a typo type mistake during a grub install a month ago and I think (??) that might have been the root of my double splashimage problem. If I remember correctly from the first thread, you would get a brief flash on the screen with Fedora at the top of the screen, a short pause, and then the proper splash screen with Fedora on the bottom. This is a good indication that ether the video card or the monitor are changing modes to properly display the splash screen. I would suspect that it is the monitor changing modes to match the video output. Yes. And that was where I was going to leave. There was a suggestion on the list that I should file a bug against grub. I was about to do that this morning and thought that I should check the first 512 bytes of each disk just to be sure. I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I filed an inappropriate bug report. While it will not prove this isn't the problem, it would be interesting to see what happens if you log into the GUI, and then hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and see if you get the same kind behavior. Ctrl-Alt-F1 gives me normal behaviour. No pauses or anything but straight to: Fedora 9 (Sulphur) kernel-2.6-etc. (tty1) CASE login: Didn't the problem go away when you turned off the splash screen, and ran Grub in the text mode? Yes, it does. Which makes the problem a Fedora grub problem, not just a grub problem -- I would think. Mikkel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:32 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:43:04 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous Double checking grub-install ?? lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. I think I now have more of a focus. To recap: I am getting a double Fedora grub splashimage at boot. What exactly does that mean? About a week ago (I don't re-boot very often), I noticed the Fedora grub splash screen appear for 1/2 second or less, then go blank and pause for a second or two. Then a new splash screen appeared and everything progressed fine from there. This occurs definitely during the grub stage of bootup. Can you hit keys to enter the first GRUB menu and stop it from booting any entry automatically? No. The image is incomplete in the first instance and disappers too quickly. I have a dual boot system with WindowsXP on sda and Fedora 9 on sdb. And what does your boot sequence look like? NTLDR on sda? Do you chainload from sda into sdb? And what does your sdb GRUB config look like? Is it really GRUB in the MBR of sdb instead of the boot sector of your boot/root partition? I have some experience with installing grub but made a typo type mistake during a grub install a month ago and I think (??) that might have been the root of my double splashimage problem. To check the mbr, I ran on /dev/sda: ~]# dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/sda | od -Ax -tx1z -v it returned: ... 000160 7c be 85 7d e8 40 00 eb 0e be 8a 7d e8 38 00 eb |[EMAIL PROTECTED] What does it print for the line at offset 0? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/sda | od -Ax -tx1z -v 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 6.288e-05 s, 8.1 MB/s 00 eb 48 90 8e d0 bc 00 7c fb 8e d8 be 00 7c 8e c0 .H.|.|.. 10 bf 00 06 b9 00 01 f3 a5 e9 00 8a be ae 07 b9 04 20 00 83 c6 10 80 3c 80 74 09 80 3c 00 75 5d e2 f1 ..t...u].. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: RAID and /boot partitions
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 16:50:09 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When creating a RAID 1 in F9. Does it make sense to make the /boot partition on both discs a RAID too? I have /boot and / as RAID 1 (dm-0 and dm-1). If I disconnect one of the drives, the computer freezes. Isn't the RAID supposed to keep it running? I'm really new to this, so any help is appreciated. Thanks, Yes it does. It will make it possible to boot if you lose one of the drives. Otherwise if the drive with the /boot partition on it were to die, you'd need to do a rescue first. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:50:31 -0400, William Case wrote: I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I filed an inappropriate bug report. Then what happens if you overwrite sda's mbr with NTLDR? To me it is still not clear what your boot sequence looks like. You say this is a dual-boot machine. Unless you prefer ntldr, you would store grub in sda. However, you say you store it in sdb. So, how exactly do you boot? Do you really chainload sdb from sda? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:10:29 -0400, William Case wrote: Can you hit keys to enter the first GRUB menu and stop it from booting any entry automatically? No. The image is incomplete in the first instance and disappers too quickly. Can you influence it by editing /boot/grub/grub.conf and - disabling the splash image - disabling the hidden menu ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:50:31 -0400, William Case wrote: I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I filed an inappropriate bug report. Then what happens if you overwrite sda's mbr with NTLDR? To me it is still not clear what your boot sequence looks like. You say this is a dual-boot machine. Unless you prefer ntldr, you would store grub in sda. However, you say you store it in sdb. So, how exactly do you boot? Do you really chainload sdb from sda? Sorry Michael, I was trying to avoid re-telling a long tale of woe. Here it is; About four weeks ago my commercial boot loader (BootMagic) was blown away by the WindowsXP sp3 download and install. Fine and good: that didn't surprise me -- it was an old version of BootMagic kept out of stubbornness. I had paid for it before I started using Linux so I was going to use it. I had climbed the grub learning curve a couple of years ago, so I am fairly confident about using the grub shell or grub-install. When BootMagic was blown away, I just installed grub. During a first attempt at a grub install I had an ooops! So I just re-installed grub and everything seemed fine. The intent was to install grub on /dev/sda dual booting to sdb /boot. (BIOS loads in the natural hd0, hd1 order.) Because it was an oops (typo) and not a confusion, I didn't pay attention to the mistake, so now a month later I have forgotten exactly what I did wrong. Besides I thought I had recovered. About a week ago (I don't re-boot very often), I noticed the Fedora grub splash screen appear for 1/2 second or less, then go blank and pause for a second or two. Then a new splash screen appeared and everything progressed fine from there. This occurs definitely during the grub stage of bootup. I didn't do anything then because I was going to fresh install Fedora 9 with a new grub. Which I have done. But the double splash screen still appears. To add to the confusion, I installed a new motherboard with a new and different video chip three months ago. Since I don't boot often, I could have not noticed the double splashimage for some time. This would support the changing video mode suggestion. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 and a GPS -
hi ! On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Bob Goodwin USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Magellan 3100 GPS device that came with a USB cable and a collection of Windows software on a CD. Is there an application for F8 that will permit me to communicate with it. At first I thought I would just plug it in and extract coordinate information for my present position but it's not that easy. It would be even more convenient if I could list a destination address from the computer keyboard instead of using the little touch screen which doesn't really seem designed for normal human sized finger tips. It does show up on my XFCE desk top when plugged in and I can list some files, none of which seem to be usable in Linux. Can I do anything with it via Linux? install gpsbabel .. $ yum install gpsbabel this is the best utility that you can get to communicate with your gps device . If you are on mapping then use josm[1] to edit and create maps . [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems
Kevin Martin wrote: Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on the internet? Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but still, this might be what's going on. Kevin If the parent is that concerned, move the computer to a common room. Control access to times that the parents are home. Learn to talk to your kids and explain the consequences of doing the wrong thing. FWIW, my kids have their Firefox configured to delete the cache and cookies on closing. If they are a concerned parent about what kids are doing, then it would be easier to look at the data over the network port than a key logger as that would display sites and most of the data that is sent if it is captured. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:56:20 -0400, William Case wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:50:31 -0400, William Case wrote: I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I filed an inappropriate bug report. Then what happens if you overwrite sda's mbr with NTLDR? To me it is still not clear what your boot sequence looks like. You say this is a dual-boot machine. Unless you prefer ntldr, you would store grub in sda. However, you say you store it in sdb. So, how exactly do you boot? Do you really chainload sdb from sda? Sorry Michael, I was trying to avoid re-telling a long tale of woe. Here it is; A long tale, but the details are missing. To reinstall grub, you run grub-install /dev/sda, right? And what do /boot/grub/grub.conf and /boot/grub/device.map contain? and everything seemed fine. The intent was to install grub on /dev/sda dual booting to sdb /boot. (BIOS loads in the natural hd0, hd1 order.) Still, one question remains. With grub in the mbr of sda, how do you boot from sdb? Do you point grub.conf to your /boot partition? Or perhaps you do some unusual chain-loading to the mbr of sdb? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
William Case wrote: Hi Mikkel; If I remember correctly from the first thread, you would get a brief flash on the screen with Fedora at the top of the screen, a short pause, and then the proper splash screen with Fedora on the bottom. This is a good indication that ether the video card or the monitor are changing modes to properly display the splash screen. I would suspect that it is the monitor changing modes to match the video output. Yes. And that was where I was going to leave. There was a suggestion on the list that I should file a bug against grub. I was about to do that this morning and thought that I should check the first 512 bytes of each disk just to be sure. I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I filed an inappropriate bug report. This should not be a problem. Because the part of Grub on the MBR does not display anything - it just loads the next part of Grub. The MBR on the second hard disk would not be used unless it was chained to by another copy of Grub, or if you tell the BIOS to boot from the second hard drive instead of the first. (Or if you swap the drives, or remove the first drive...) Didn't the problem go away when you turned off the splash screen, and ran Grub in the text mode? Yes, it does. Which makes the problem a Fedora grub problem, not just a grub problem -- I would think. Unless Fedora modified Grub to use splash images, it would be a Grub problem. It may be specific to your hardware combination. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Network disconnected
no I mean in main menu of GNOME there are 3 items :Applications, Places, System I chose System--- Administration---Network by the way, it was the problem of SELinux. I disabled it and network connection was O.K. He means system-config-network I guess On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: elk dolk wrote: I have installed F9 and configured network as wired but network manager applet says the network connection has been disconnected , when I look at System-Admin-Network the eth0 is active. I think I need some help What is System-Admin-Network? I don't seem to have any such program. Is it a Gnome speciality? (I'm a KDE person.) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
One at a time.
Hello everybody, I am under fedora nine and I have two problems. One with the scanner and the second with the firewire. Here is the first. My scanner does not work and I don't know how to get out of it. I have install the last version of iscan and iscan plugin to no avail except for the sixty-two erreur messages at boot time . The scanner is an epson v100 which worked great under fedora 8. With sane-find-scanner I get this: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x012d [EPSON Scanner]) at libusb:001:005 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. And with scanimage -L absolutely no joy. Could somebody please get me out of this mess. Thanks a lot. John Brennan-Sardou -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:15 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: William Case wrote: Hi Mikkel; Yes. And that was where I was going to leave it. There was a suggestion on the list that I should file a bug against grub. I was about to do that this morning and thought that I should check the first 512 bytes of each disk just to be sure. I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I filed an inappropriate bug report. This should not be a problem. Because the part of Grub on the MBR does not display anything - it just loads the next part of Grub. I understand the difference between stage1, (stage1_5) and stage2. The MBR on the second hard disk would not be used unless it was chained to by another copy of Grub, That is the only possiblity left, I would think. In all the searching I have done, the video mode problem seems to be with grub2 -- not grub-0.97-33.fc9.x86_64 or if you tell the BIOS to boot from the second hard drive instead of the first. (Or if you swap the drives, or remove the first drive...) Didn't the problem go away when you turned off the splash screen, and ran Grub in the text mode? Yes, it does. Which makes the problem a Fedora grub problem, not just a grub problem -- I would think. Unless Fedora modified Grub to use splash images, it would be a Grub problem. It may be specific to your hardware combination. I believe Fedora has substituted it's own splashimage, at least the splash image has the Fedora colours and logo + containing the grub menu selection rectangle . Mikkel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor was: Re: help with setting up graphics
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:50:02 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 21:00 +, Beartooth wrote: [...] Start a new tread with maybe subject: help with setting up graphics/ I made that cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|most and started slogging. Other than the two lines below, I see nothing that even might be enlightening. [...] Could you post the complete Xorg.0.log. Try not to use the grep\more\less etc.. [...] I wrote a detailed email reply, which should have appeared here (on Gmane) ere now; I think there was a glitch in the list address. I'll go copy it from my outbox and re-post. My apologies in advance if it eventually shows up twice! When it does appear, I have a follow-up with videocard info. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Think about how accessing wireless systems works. If you have to authenticate, then you have to be logged in to do it (or you have to preconfigure it). If you are a mobile user, you may have to do it several times--NM makes the process about as convenient as possible. Authentication should be tied to a user: user A should not necessarily be able to authenticate to user B's WAP unless user A also knows the key. (Apropos another thread, that's why the keyring is used to store encrypted keys.) This actually raises an interesting point. The various discussions of wireless authentication I've seen don't clearly distinguish between the user and the device in all cases. Sometimes they do (e.g. when using WPA in an enterprise mode which requires authenticating the actual user to a central server) and other times they don't (such as the very common PSK mode where everyone just knows the magic passphrase). What happens in the following scenario: User A logs in to his laptop and authenticates. Without logging out, User B comes along and logs in as well (on a different virtual console). Can User B now access the network without needing to authenticate again? If so, NM is treating the authentication as per-device, if not, then it's per-user. Does it depend on the WPA mode? I don't know. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor was: Re: help with setting up graphics
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:50:02 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: Could you post the complete Xorg.0.log. Try not to use the grep\more\less etc.. There will be stuff useful that others more knowledgeable (a lot more) than myself will gather from it. The same with any other log post the full thing. I'll try. But I'm on email (Alpine 1.10) at the moment, and I'm not going to try to copy a file that length into it, page by page or screen by screen. Does the list accept attachments?? I can probably do that; or I can use Pan (0.132) against Gmane -- my normal and strongly favored way of monitoring this list -- which will let me paste the whole huge thing (from gedit, which will let me copy it all at once) smack into the text of a post. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF06b/20491-314293 -314303-314303-314303-80720291-80720356.html Should be you monitor? That certainly seems to be the one, yes, thanks! But I've moused all over it, following every likely link, only to conclude there's no finding a driver without knowing your video card. So I broke down and sent an email to the guy who built my current machines for me, asking if he has records of what he put in. Stay tuned. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
Hi Michael; On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:54 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:10:29 -0400, William Case wrote: Can you hit keys to enter the first GRUB menu and stop it from booting any entry automatically? No. The image is incomplete in the first instance and disappers too quickly. Can you influence it by editing /boot/grub/grub.conf and - disabling the splash image commenting-out splashimage produces a grub basic menu without double loading. - disabling the hidden menu commenting hiddenmenu or not, does not prevent the loading of a double splashimage. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems
Robin Laing wrote: Kevin Martin wrote: Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on the internet? Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but still, this might be what's going on. Kevin If the parent is that concerned, move the computer to a common room. Control access to times that the parents are home. Learn to talk to your kids and explain the consequences of doing the wrong thing. FWIW, my kids have their Firefox configured to delete the cache and cookies on closing. If they are a concerned parent about what kids are doing, then it would be easier to look at the data over the network port than a key logger as that would display sites and most of the data that is sent if it is captured. And I agree 100% with what you're saying except: It's not always as easy as that to control access unless you take away the keyboard, lock the computer, etc. and the last statement. Data over the network port won't be caught if it's encrypted and, while you won't capture the other side of a conversation, at least a keylogger will capture your kids side of it. The parent can probably make some deductions about the conversation at that point. I'm all for trust and teaching right and wrong but kids will be kids and, if it's gotten to the point where the parent is having to keylog their kids conversations (or feels like they do) then those concepts have been sidetracked somehow. Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:33:10 -0400, William Case wrote: the video mode problem seems to be with grub2 -- not grub-0.97-33.fc9.x86_64 ?? Can't comment on grub2 yet as I've seen it only once or twice, I think, and it's a different code base. Your recent description of the symptoms sounds like the image data are loaded prior to setting a video mode. That's something to report to grub2 upstream, especially if Fedora 9's grub works for you. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem and Fedora 8
Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:43:57 -0400 Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check these two sites , there is a driver for Linux for the Sagem Fast 800 E3 usb modem. Thank you. This looks like something that I could probably set up if I had the modem and the laptop here to fiddle around with, but I don't think it's going to be workable in the present situation. Thanks for the information, though. The next time someone has a question about one of the modems they will be able to find this in the list archives. Another issue is the ISP may require the MAC address to validate the network connection on their end. I have seen this many times in my helping of others. My mother-in-law has the same issue on her network. She has a USB cable modem. The modem does have an ethernet port but hooking any other computer to this port is a waste of time as the MAC address is useless. The Windows network sharing would be the quickest and easiest way to set this up. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor was: Re: help with setting up graphics
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:53:12 +, I Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:50:02 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: [...] http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF06b/20491-314293 -314303-314303-314303-80720291-80720356.html Should be you monitor? That certainly seems to be the one, yes, thanks! But I've moused all over it, following every likely link, only to conclude there's no finding a driver without knowing your video card. So I broke down and sent an email to the guy who built my current machines for me, asking if he has records of what he put in. Stay tuned. My query and the response from the builder are as follows : = = = I've tried the hardware browsing tools I can find. I see M2V-TVM on this newest machine, and I seem to be seeing A7NVM400 on both the others -- is that possible? Or am I looking in the wrong place? It's possible the two computers have the same motherboards. That particular one was very good with several updates and series available for almost 2 years. It's also possible that one is an A7N8X-VM and the other is an A7N8X-VM/400 which was released about a year later. This series uses the nVidia nForce2 video adaptor. The M2V-TVM has a VIA DeltaChrome Graphics Controller. = = = Translation : that means what I call machine #1 (now running F8) has the VIA DeltaChrome Graphics Controller, while what I call #2 and #3 both have the nVidia nForce2 video adaptor. Meanwhile, fwiw, I took #1 out from behind the KVM switch, meaning to try again to upgrade, hit a large snag, thought better of the attempt, and put it back. In the process, all three machines got rebooted. On all three reboots, X failed; I logged in as root, ran system- config-display, logged back out, logged in as user, and commanded startx. On all three, I got a display -- a bad one; ran the display applet (whose Properties give /usr/bin/system-config-display as its command), logged out, and repeated the exercise at least once, till I got each to run 1280x1024 given under Settings and generic lcd 1280x1024 under Hardware. That's not optimal, of course, on a 1680x1050 monitor; but it's more usable, I find, than some of the other things that get substituted for it, such as iirc 1440x900 or 1400x1050 -- more usable, at least, in that the monitor adapts by stretching in ways that gripe me less. Upshot : I *think* what I now need is to discover what drivers to get, and where, for the VIA DeltaChrome Graphics Controller and the nVidia nForce2 video adaptor. And then, of course, to install them on the right machines. Right? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:33:55 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: [...] The DMI data doesn't come from the various pieces of hardware themselves. It's all stored in a memory on the motherboard, so it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what hardware is actually installed. It seems only big corporations have tools to write to the DMI memory. Is there something else I should be looking for?? What I know of hardware would go in a gnat's eye -- and never discommode the gnat. Try running lspci and looking for words like display, graphics and VGA. On the #1 machine : = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lspci|grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video (rev 01) [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# = = = But there is later, better info -- which I have just posted here, under the thread Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor was: Re: help with setting up graphics
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:24 +, Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:53:12 +, I Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:50:02 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: [...] http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF06b/20491-314293 -314303-314303-314303-80720291-80720356.html massive snip Would you be willing to send (email me the logs from all three machines. It's the one monitor they share? Send me the xorg.conf mark them machine 1,2,3 as you know them as i'm on gmt (Ireland) you may not get a reply till the following day in your tz Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh reverse tunnel
Rick Bilonick wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 14:07 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Rick Bilonick wrote: I re-installed Fedora 8 and now I can get a reverse ssh tunnel (from server to home) by typing on the server: ssh -R 2022:server.ip:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then when at the home computer, I type: ssh -p 2022 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works fine. The only problem is the connection always times out even though I've changed the sshd_config files on both machines to keep it alive. I've restarted the sshd daemon also. Not sure why the connection keeps closing. And the reason this is desirable? You can easily set iptables to accept ssh packets on 2022 from only your computer, and not run encryption through encryption. And if you want a real connection, OpenVPN is probably a better solution. And if I had any control over any of this, that would be exactly what I would do. But since I don't, this fits the bill. Just be aware of the laws about unauthorized access to computers, and CYA. Something in writing might be nice, in case you ever need proof. [ not cc to any list ] -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 and a GPS -
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: My old Garmin 12 (yeah, it has gray hair) has a very dumb serial interface, so I have to use an adapter to make it usb. And there are no intermittent connection problems? Maybe Prolific has quietly fixed that bug in later issues. Mine are 5 or 6 years old, one I got from the shack, and another I got from Wallies a year or so later. Both of them have been problems. I tried to use one to connect to a ups, but every time it dropped the connection, the ups monitor initiated a shut down about a second later. Several times a day. That, and glancing over at the roadnav screen while in western Iowa, and noted it showing me in downtown Indianapolis IN for 30 seconds just got to be too much. I moved one of them to the heyu circuit, that gave heyu a tummy ache it would segfault die. I asked Charles on the heyu list he said I wasn't the only one having trouble with pl2303's, and he was telling folks to go get the FTDI devices as they seemed to Just Work(TM), and they have, very well, as have the Atmel silicon in a pair of extension cables I use. By intermittent connection problems, do you mean that it would drop characters? One problem I have run into is where the flow control lines are not implemented. If the hardware and/or application are set up to use hardware flow control, this can cause data loss. I don't know if this is the case here. Mikkel In the case of roadnav, the serial speed is about 1/100th the usb speed, so there should not even be a need for flow controls. AFAT pl2303 is concerned, in my tests, trying to run a minicom terminal here, to a serial port on a TRS-80 Color Computer 3, (aka a coco3) running nitros9, using a 9600 baud connection rate, and Chuck Foresberg's rzsz to move files. With a pl2303 doing that adaptation, I could type by hand from either end and see it perfectly. Fire up a zmodem transfer, and the data got so scrambled that zmodem eventually gave up on a 12 byte file! The rz implementation on the coco3 actually checksums each character as rx'd into the total for a 128 byte packet, but this restricts the coco3 to about 700cps. I tried every flow control method, but with the coco3 acia chip only having a 1 byte buffer, and the coco3 was exerting the 7 wire protocol (with xon/xoff, control is too slow) that I could see on an rs232 sniffer was working, but the pl2303 was apparently ignoring. Conversely, a transfer from the coco3 to here got scrambled even though this box takes naps between bytes received. I could only come to the conclusion that the pl2303 was a $40 POS. Add in its poor showing with heyu, roadnav and 2 different UPS's and any reasoning person will reach the same conclusion. Now I've moved an FTDI adapter to that circuit, and while there are errors that make rz do resets restarts on the larger files, it will eventually get the file moved with no errors in the file. I think those are because I don't have the 7 wire properly configured on the coco3, I believe it is here on this box although stty's nemonics nomenclature is a bit foreign to me the manpage quite frankly, is all but worthless. A manpage should have demo cli examples for eol translations and for the two 'std' flow mechanisms in common use. No, instead it explains each option in excrutiating detail, taking up 4 or 5 pages, which is info overload IMO to me. Experts at rs232 protocols are, like me at 73, a dying breed, so there are few to ask about it in this world, and I might get 1 or 2 fingers used counting them in the coco3 world, very scarce and memories are fading. Since the coco3 os9 (a mini unix) precede google by over a decade, googling is not the help it could be. Shades of the old Telebit Trailblazer running the serial at 230400 bps to keep compressed data flowing and using RTS when the data you were sending didn't compress enough. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: RAID and /boot partitions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When creating a RAID 1 in F9. Does it make sense to make the /boot partition on both discs a RAID too? I have /boot and / as RAID 1 (dm-0 and dm-1). If I disconnect one of the drives, the computer freezes. Isn't the RAID supposed to keep it running? I'm really new to this, so any help is appreciated. Are you sure /boot is on a raid partition, and not on a dm pseudo device? If you created a partition on your drives, made a raid-1 of the two partitions (100-200MB is good), and then did whatever with the rest of your disk, you should be fine. If you made one huge raid array and used dm to break it up, you are not fine. Do cat /proc/mdstat and see that there is a small raid-1 for boot, and df to check that /dev/mdX is mounted on /boot. If that's the case you should be good, otherwise you probably don't boot off one drive. NOTE: your BIOS may not boot off the 2nd drive if the 1st drive is present and has data errors, should if the 1st drive is dead. Some BIOS do, some don't. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
logging is a Unix feature ; -) was Re: Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems
2008/6/27 Parshwa Murdia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be viewed with all the details. I don't really know what you mean by keylogger but I will extrapolate to the various possibilities offered by a Unix-like operating system is capable to reach the nirvana of keystroke logging. I will also assume that you don't want to hide your activities but this was already understood ;-) - script There is the old and venerable Unix command called script that permits to record a whole interactive session in a text file. Very handy when you have to record an activity session for a course or making documentation. You just need to run script myfile and this will save all shell interaction into a file called myfile. Of course, you are free to add some scripting around it. - GNU Screen A second option is to use the wonderful GNU Screen (but I'm sure that you already know that very nice GNU package). Screen is capable to do extensive logging of any session happening in a screen session. screen -L is going to log the activities in screenlog.0 but feel free to use the screenrc config file to configure it. Lookup the man page of screen and search the following keywords : deflog / logfile and %n - Sebek You have also more powerful tool like Sebek (http://www.honeynet.org/tools/sebek/) often used in honeypot to capture activities of an attacker. Of course, this is just an overview of the capacity. You have also the excellent socat (http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/) that can be used to capture interaction on any /dev/ttyp. You can also patch the GNU readline library, use ttyrec, use the THC vlogger... But don't forget that such power come with responsibilities. Hope this helps, adulau -- -- Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau) -- http://www.foo.be/ -- http://www.foo.be/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/Diary -- Knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance -- that we can solve them Isaac Asimov -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Think about how accessing wireless systems works. If you have to authenticate, then you have to be logged in to do it (or you have to preconfigure it). If you are a mobile user, you may have to do it several times--NM makes the process about as convenient as possible. Authentication should be tied to a user: user A should not necessarily be able to authenticate to user B's WAP unless user A also knows the key. (Apropos another thread, that's why the keyring is used to store encrypted keys.) This actually raises an interesting point. The various discussions of wireless authentication I've seen don't clearly distinguish between the user and the device in all cases. Sometimes they do (e.g. when using WPA in an enterprise mode which requires authenticating the actual user to a central server) and other times they don't (such as the very common PSK mode where everyone just knows the magic passphrase). What happens in the following scenario: User A logs in to his laptop and authenticates. Without logging out, User B comes along and logs in as well (on a different virtual console). Can User B now access the network without needing to authenticate again? If so, NM is treating the authentication as per-device, if not, then it's per-user. Does it depend on the WPA mode? I don't know. Ooh, good point. The answer is, once the link is up, it's tied to the device. I think you can even log out of your session and into another without taking the link down (but I haven't tried that). I'll leave it to Dan Williams (NM developer) to address possible alternative architectures. poc -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
iwl3945 not working with lastest kernel update
With kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 I am no longer able to connect to my AP. The last kernel that worked for me was kernel-2.6.25.6-57.fc9.i686. I have opened a bug 453833. Is anyone having problems with this hardware? -Louis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: RAID and /boot partitions
-- Original message -- From: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When creating a RAID 1 in F9. Does it make sense to make the /boot partition on both discs a RAID too? I have /boot and / as RAID 1 (dm-0 and dm-1). If I disconnect one of the drives, the computer freezes. Isn't the RAID supposed to keep it running? I'm really new to this, so any help is appreciated. Are you sure /boot is on a raid partition, and not on a dm pseudo device? If you created a partition on your drives, made a raid-1 of the two partitions (100-200MB is good), and then did whatever with the rest of your disk, you should be fine. If you made one huge raid array and used dm to break it up, you are not fine. Do cat /proc/mdstat and see that there is a small raid-1 for boot, and df to check that /dev/mdX is mounted on /boot. If that's the case you should be good, otherwise you probably don't boot off one drive. NOTE: your BIOS may not boot off the 2nd drive if the 1st drive is present and has data errors, should if the 1st drive is dead. Some BIOS do, some don't. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot This is the output of df. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/md1 470535632 3951984 442681744 1% / /dev/md0 99099 12499 81484 14% /boot tmpfs 203216848 2032120 1% /dev/shm And this is the output of cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0] 102336 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] 478038080 blocks [2/2] [UU] unused devices: none I have two drives with /boot and / If I unplug the first one, the system remains up and running. If I however unplug the second one, the system becomes unstable, X crashes, and eventually the system becomes irresponsive. Why does this happen with one disk only? Thanks, EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Announcing Eth-0: A week long outdoor Lan Party, Netherlands
Hi List, I would like to announce that we will have a last minute planned Fedora presence at the ETH0 outdoor lan party event. So far we have no plans for an official tent, but I will be giving one or two presentations, and participating in the VJ camp with some friends. ETH-0 is a week long camping event held in in the province Noord-Holland, in the woods near Friesland. The camping site is about 12km away from the town of Den Oever. You can get either day passes or a discounted full week pass. The event is focused around four themes, or camps: Open Source Software, Embedded Systems, Multimedia, and Gaming. The goal of the event is to bring together highly creative people in any one of these fields to meet with other like minded people and come up with new creative ideas. The event appears to be officially in English, and if you are not familiar with the Netherlands, almost everyone here speaks English fluently. You can find out more about the event at these links. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=FedoraEvents/Eth0/Eth02008 Our wiki for coordination http://www.eth-0.nl/ The home page for the event http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/Main_Page The wiki for the event Since this event is geared around the people who use the software, rather than just the people who develop it, I would like to open an invitation to anyone in the Fedora User community to come join me at the event. FAMSCO has allocated a budget for this, so feel free to let me know about any special or fancy ideas you have. Also if you are interested in coming but need help with resources like camping supplies, or looking for more information about travel, please post information either to this thread, our wiki page, or email me. Yours, Yaakov Nemoy -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 21:13 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:33:10 -0400, William Case wrote: the video mode problem seems to be with grub2 -- not grub-0.97-33.fc9.x86_64 ?? Can't comment on grub2 yet as I've seen it only once or twice, I think, and it's a different code base. Your recent description of the symptoms sounds like the image data are loaded prior to setting a video mode. That's something to report to grub2 upstream, especially if Fedora 9's grub works for you. You got it backwards. I was saying I don't have grub2, that is why I am persisting with solving this problem. Fedora 9's grub isn't working for me! -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: iwl3945 not working with lastest kernel update
Louis E Garcia II wrote: With kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 I am no longer able to connect to my AP. The last kernel that worked for me was kernel-2.6.25.6-57.fc9.i686. I have opened a bug 453833. Is anyone having problems with this hardware? I haven't booted the new kernel yet But, the Intel 3945abg on my laptop has been troublesome since I got it. Under FC6 (using ipw3945) it was a crap shoot to get it to connect at all. With F9 (and iwl3945), I've had much better luck. I'm still running 2.6.25.6-57.fc9. I'll reply here again after I upgrade. -Louis -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??
Hi; On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:33 -0400, William Case wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:15 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: William Case wrote: Hi Mikkel; [snip] Just to see what happens how would I go about safely removing the stage1 of Grub from /dev/sdb ?? -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Dell D630 fc9 can't change screen resolution with system-config-display
I select menu item System/Administration/Display and authenticate. I select a different resolution from the resolution menu. I click 'OK'. A dialog box pops up: Display settings changed You need to log out and restart the X server for the changes to take effect. Coinfiguration was written to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, original configuration saved as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup I click okay, open up a terminal window. ls -la shows /etc/X11/xorg.conf was modified. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup does not exist. If I choose the highest resolution setting shown (832x624), /etc/X11/xorg.conf has a screen section that looks like this: Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Dell D630 fc9 can't change screen resolution with system-config-display
Oops, hitsend with my elbow. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I select menu item System/Administration/Display and authenticate. I select a different resolution from the resolution menu. I click 'OK'. A dialog box pops up: Display settings changed You need to log out and restart the X server for the changes to take effect. Coinfiguration was written to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, original configuration saved as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup I click okay, open up a terminal window. ls -la shows /etc/X11/xorg.conf was modified. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup does not exist. If I choose the highest resolution setting shown (832x624), /etc/X11/xorg.conf has a screen section that looks like this: Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Jumping Terminal Windows on F9
Any hints out there for fixing terminal windows that jump from their session-saved positions at login on a gnome desktop? Thanks. -Tom -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor was: Re: help with setting up graphics
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor was: Re: help with setting up graphics To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:53 AM On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:50:02 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: Could you post the complete Xorg.0.log. Try not to use the grep\more\less etc.. There will be stuff useful that others more knowledgeable (a lot more) than myself will gather from it. The same with any other log post the full thing. I'll try. But I'm on email (Alpine 1.10) at the moment, and I'm not going to try to copy a file that length into it, page by page or screen by screen. Does the list accept attachments?? I can probably do that; or I can use Pan (0.132) against Gmane -- my normal and strongly favored way of monitoring this list -- which will let me paste the whole huge thing (from gedit, which will let me copy it all at once) smack into the text of a post. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF06b/20491-314293 -314303-314303-314303-80720291-80720356.html Should be you monitor? That certainly seems to be the one, yes, thanks! But I've moused all over it, following every likely link, only to conclude there's no finding a driver without knowing your video card. So I broke down and sent an email to the guy who built my current machines for me, asking if he has records of what he put in. Stay tuned. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- I missed your previous posts, maybe clicking real fast, but I have an integrated video in the motherboard and I use OpenChrome driver. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su - Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE I/O APIC Interrupt Controller 00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800/K8T890 South] 00:02.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller 00:03.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller 00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A SATA 2-Port Controller (rev 80) 00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 07) 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to ISA Bridge 00:11.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 Ultra VLINK Controller 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 7c) 00:13.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A Host Bridge 00:13.1 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to PCI Bridge 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video (rev 11) 04:05.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems LT WinModem (rev 02) 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10) When I installed the machine, I booted to level 5, and I tried to play a dvd and I would see lines across the screen and I have a Samsumg SyncMater 914v Flat Panel Monitor. I tried getting the via drivers and thankfully they did not compile. What I did to fix my situation was the following: Change inittab:5 to 3, that is from level 5 to level 3 and then type startx. What I noticed is that I did not see the lines that I saw when the system booted into level 5. I played movies and did not see the bad lines that I previously saw. This corrected the issue for me. I also use Slax Linux on this machine and when the machine booted and logged in automatically to X, the lines appeared, but then, I booted in text mode and created a module for the OpenChrome drivers
Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 12:25 PM On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:33:55 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: [...] The DMI data doesn't come from the various pieces of hardware themselves. It's all stored in a memory on the motherboard, so it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what hardware is actually installed. It seems only big corporations have tools to write to the DMI memory. Is there something else I should be looking for?? What I know of hardware would go in a gnat's eye -- and never discommode the gnat. Try running lspci and looking for words like display, graphics and VGA. On the #1 machine : = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# lspci|grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video (rev 01) [EMAIL PROTECTED] btth]# It appears to be the same as mine: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci|grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video (rev 11) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# Start you machine in level 3, you shall see the difference. Read my other post, it will tell you my experience. Regards, Antonio = = = But there is later, better info -- which I have just posted here, under the thread Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
b43 not working with latest kernel 2.6.25.9-76
I cannot connect anymore to my AP with a Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) With the new kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 The previous kernel was ok (2.6.25.6-55). The Centrino Wireless ipw2100 works in both cases. What happens is that I get over and over the dialog box of the WPA password. Andrea -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: RAID and /boot partitions
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Original message -- From: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When creating a RAID 1 in F9. Does it make sense to make the /boot partition on both discs a RAID too? I have /boot and / as RAID 1 (dm-0 and dm-1). If I disconnect one of the drives, the computer freezes. Isn't the RAID supposed to keep it running? I'm really new to this, so any help is appreciated. Are you sure /boot is on a raid partition, and not on a dm pseudo device? If you created a partition on your drives, made a raid-1 of the two partitions (100-200MB is good), and then did whatever with the rest of your disk, you should be fine. If you made one huge raid array and used dm to break it up, you are not fine. Do cat /proc/mdstat and see that there is a small raid-1 for boot, and df to check that /dev/mdX is mounted on /boot. If that's the case you should be good, otherwise you probably don't boot off one drive. NOTE: your BIOS may not boot off the 2nd drive if the 1st drive is present and has data errors, should if the 1st drive is dead. Some BIOS do, some don't. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot This is the output of df. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/md1 470535632 3951984 442681744 1% / /dev/md0 99099 12499 81484 14% /boot tmpfs 203216848 2032120 1% /dev/shm And this is the output of cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0] 102336 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] 478038080 blocks [2/2] [UU] unused devices: none I have two drives with /boot and / If I unplug the first one, the system remains up and running. If I however unplug the second one, the system becomes unstable, X crashes, and eventually the system becomes irresponsive. Why does this happen with one disk only? Thanks, EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list To answer my own question. The problem is that the swap partition is only on one disk and it's not RAIDed. So when I unplug the drive with the swap partition, the system goes down. The next step would be to create a RAID for swap and make the system use it. EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Dell D630 fc9 can't change screen resolution with system-config-display
D630 has an NVIDIA(R) Quadro NVS 135M1 and Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator X3100. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I select menu item System/Administration/Display and authenticate. I select a resolution from the resolution menu. I click 'OK'. A dialog box pops up: Display settings changed You need to log out and restart the X server for the changes to take effect. Coinfiguration was written to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, original configuration saved as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup I click okay, open up a terminal window. ls -la shows /etc/X11/xorg.conf was modified. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup does not exist. But the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf have not changed. The file is owned and writeable by root. Nothing shows up in /var/log/messages, except authorization stuff, which succeeds. Then I tried changing the hardware tab/monitor type. Sadly, no pre-setting for my Dell screen, so I choose generic LCD panel 1280x800, since that is what my screen is. Again, system-config-display acts like it is saving it and backing up old settings, but nothing changes and no backup written. I ended up editing the file by hand. Here's the file I have now: Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 ModelNameLCD Panel 1280x800 HorizSync31.5 - 50.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 65.0 Option dpms EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nv EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes1280x800 1024x768 832x624 800x600 720x400 640x480 640x400 640x350 EndSubSection EndSection system-config-display doesn't show the 1280x800 option. It does let me switch between those modes, though of course I can't choose 1280x800, since it is missing from the menu. I'm confused. Why won't system-config-display let me save my settings? Why does it override the contents of the config file? Do I need to put some sort of usemodes or mode entry in the monitor section? Thanks for any clues. Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Dell D630 fc9 can't change screen resolution with system-config-display
D630 has an NVIDIA(R) Quadro NVS 135M1 and Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator X3100. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I select menu item System/Administration/Display and authenticate. I select a resolution from the resolution menu. I click 'OK'. A dialog box pops up: Display settings changed You need to log out and restart the X server for the changes to take effect. Coinfiguration was written to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, original configuration saved as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup I click okay, open up a terminal window. ls -la shows /etc/X11/xorg.conf was modified. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup does not exist. But the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf have not changed. The file is owned and writeable by root. Nothing shows up in /var/log/messages, except authorization stuff, which succeeds. Then I tried changing the hardware tab/monitor type. Sadly, no pre-setting for my Dell screen, so I choose generic LCD panel 1280x800, since that is what my screen is. Again, system-config-display acts like it is saving it and backing up old settings, but nothing changes and no backup written. I ended up editing the file by hand. Here's the file I have now: Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 ModelNameLCD Panel 1280x800 HorizSync31.5 - 50.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 65.0 Option dpms EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nv EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes1280x800 1024x768 832x624 800x600 720x400 640x480 640x400 640x350 EndSubSection EndSection system-config-display doesn't show the 1280x800 option. It does let me switch between those modes, though of course I can't choose 1280x800, since it is missing from the menu. I'm confused. Why won't system-config-display let me save my settings? Why does it override the contents of the config file? Do I need to put some sort of usemodes or mode entry in the monitor section? Thanks for any clues. Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 and a GPS -
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Les wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 15:45 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: My old Garmin 12 (yeah, it has gray hair) has a very dumb serial interface, so I have to use an adapter to make it usb. And there are no intermittent connection problems? Maybe Prolific has quietly fixed that bug in later issues. Mine are 5 or 6 years old, one I got from the shack, and another I got from Wallies a year or so later. Both of them have been problems. I tried to use one to connect to a ups, but every time it dropped the connection, the ups monitor initiated a shut down about a second later. Several times a day. That, and glancing over at the roadnav screen while in western Iowa, and noted it showing me in downtown Indianapolis IN for 30 seconds just got to be too much. I moved one of them to the heyu circuit, that gave heyu a tummy ache it would segfault die. I asked Charles on the heyu list he said I wasn't the only one having trouble with pl2303's, and he was telling folks to go get the FTDI devices as they seemed to Just Work(TM), and they have, very well, as have the Atmel silicon in a pair of extension cables I use. By intermittent connection problems, do you mean that it would drop characters? One problem I have run into is where the flow control lines are not implemented. If the hardware and/or application are set up to use hardware flow control, this can cause data loss. I don't know if this is the case here. Mikkel In the case of roadnav, the serial speed is about 1/100th the usb speed, so there should not even be a need for flow controls. AFAT pl2303 is concerned, in my tests, trying to run a minicom terminal here, to a serial port on a TRS-80 Color Computer 3, (aka a coco3) running nitros9, using a 9600 baud connection rate, and Chuck Foresberg's rzsz to move files. With a pl2303 doing that adaptation, I could type by hand from either end and see it perfectly. Fire up a zmodem transfer, and the data got so scrambled that zmodem eventually gave up on a 12 byte file! The rz implementation on the coco3 actually checksums each character as rx'd into the total for a 128 byte packet, but this restricts the coco3 to about 700cps. I tried every flow control method, but with the coco3 acia chip only having a 1 byte buffer, and the coco3 was exerting the 7 wire protocol (with xon/xoff, control is too slow) that I could see on an rs232 sniffer was working, but the pl2303 was apparently ignoring. Conversely, a transfer from the coco3 to here got scrambled even though this box takes naps between bytes received. I could only come to the conclusion that the pl2303 was a $40 POS. Add in its poor showing with heyu, roadnav and 2 different UPS's and any reasoning person will reach the same conclusion. Now I've moved an FTDI adapter to that circuit, and while there are errors that make rz do resets restarts on the larger files, it will eventually get the file moved with no errors in the file. I think those are because I don't have the 7 wire properly configured on the coco3, I believe it is here on this box although stty's nemonics nomenclature is a bit foreign to me the manpage quite frankly, is all but worthless. A manpage should have demo cli examples for eol translations and for the two 'std' flow mechanisms in common use. No, instead it explains each option in excrutiating detail, taking up 4 or 5 pages, which is info overload IMO to me. Experts at rs232 protocols are, like me at 73, a dying breed, so there are few to ask about it in this world, and I might get 1 or 2 fingers used counting them in the coco3 world, very scarce and memories are fading. Since the coco3 os9 (a mini unix) precede google by over a decade, googling is not the help it could be. Shades of the old Telebit Trailblazer running the serial at 230400 bps to keep compressed data flowing and using RTS when the data you were sending didn't compress enough. Check your grounding and isolation. Typically that is what causes the error. A well designed interface uses the supply wire to controll the voltage on the interface logic. If you are getting scrambled data, one or the other of the ports is probably not supplying the voltage for the interface. Or alternatively the ground may be broken at either end or in the cable. Losing the voltage will make one interface not pass valid data, losing the ground loses the reference to the receiver comparators, which will make them decode junk depending upon the transitions on the cable. Cables rung, good, and all power supplies have 3 wire cords. The coco3 is in fact running on an elderly AT supply, so the machine itself is well grounded through that. Unforch, I don't believe the electrical is on a common circuit, it appears a recent
