Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
Hi, I prefer the variant of 14,17,20,23 (in the right column) shapes from radio-check.png, low noise, good readable... JJM 2008/7/18 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 22:55 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: * improvement of the check/radio button design I've just finished new design sketch for those. It's rather radical change compared to current looks, but IMHO it's badly needed. As usual, comments are welcome :-) Thanks, Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- I'm still learning English.. Mr Jiri Jakub Masek (Jiří Jakub Mašek) Moravia, Czech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: pungi repo priorities
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 04:23 +0100, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote: Hi, how I set pungi repo priorities ? New pungi on fedora 9, give me an error about repo.priorities is a NoneType I thought I pushed an update for that. Check with either F9 updates or F9 updates testing. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Supporting EPEL Builds in Koji
Mike Bonnet wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 13:54 -0400, Mike McLean wrote: If the remote_repo_url data is going to be inherited (and I tend to think it should be), then I think it should be in a separate table. I'd like to reserve tag_config for data that is local to individual tags. This will also make it easier to represent multiple remote repos. I don't have any problem with this, though it does mean we'll need to duplicate quite a bit of the inheritance-walking code, or make it configurable as to which inheritance it's walking. This new table would also have to be versioned, the same way the tag_config table is. Walking inheritance is just a matter of determining the inheritance order and scanning data on the parent tags in sequence. Currently, nothing scans tag_config in this way because no data in tag_config is inherited. (Well, in a sense tag_changed_since_event() does walk tag_config, but that's a little different.) We need to figure out how we'll deal with multiplicity for the external repos. If tag A uses repo X and inherits from tag B which uses repo Y, then does tag A use both X and Y, or does the X entry override it? A (+repo X) +- B (+repo Y) My inclination is that it should override, because I think we'll want some way to do override that that mechanism seems easiest. Also, I think we'll probably want to allow multiple external repos per tag, something which will be much easier to represent in an external table. We can include an explicit priority field to make a sane uniqueness condition (and to provide a clear ordering for the repo merge). The big win here is that the methods and tools that query rpminfo for information about what was present in the buildroot at build time -snip- I see all that, and I'm almost convinced. The flipside is that by default all the code will treat these external rpms the same as the local ones, which will not be correct for a number of cases. Obviously, part of this will involve changing code to behave differently for the external ones, I'm just worried about how much we might have to change, or what we might miss. Yes, I realize that the not null constraint should exist now, and in fact all rpms in the Fedora database do reference builds. However, I think logically having a remote rpm not reference a local build makes sense. The alternative is to create the build object from the srpm info in the repodata (along with some namespacing similar to rpminfo). However, this would significantly clutter the build table with information that is pretty non-essential. The idea of grouping them into builds appeals to me, but I don't think it's possible in general (though maybe we could fake it well enough somehow). The only data we're (mostly) guaranteed to have to work with is the sourcerpm header field. The catch is that in case of an nvr-collision we can't determine which build it belongs to (or indeed if we should create a new build of same nvr). I'm open to suggestions on how to modify the uniqueness constraint to handle this case. We care about ensuring that a locally-built rpm doesn't have the same n-v-r as another locally-built rpm. I don't think we care at all about n-v-r uniqueness amongst remote rpms. However, we probably want to avoid creating 2 rpminfo entries when the same remote rpm is used in 2 different buildroots. Using the sigmd5 is a good way to avoid that. Agreed. same sigmd5 == same rpm. However, what happens if a remote rpm with the same n-v-r and sigmd5 gets pulled in from 2 different remote repos? This gets into part of what bugs me about this and why I'm somewhat inclined to keep the ext repo data a step removed. It's so potentially dirty. Koji has all these consistency constraints that an external repo (much less many of them in aggregate) lacks. It's quite possible that an external repo might respin a package keeping the same nvr, so we don't even need 2 external repos to hit this possibility. Perhaps the origin field should be pushed down to the buildroot_listing table, so the buildroots can reference the same rpminfo object, but indicate that it came from a different repo in each buildroot? Interesting. Yeah, I think that is is probably the right answer. Also, I'm thinking we need to have some sort of rpm_origin table so that all these references can be managed cleanly. Also, what happens when we find 2 remote rpms with the same n-v-r but different sigmd5s? Should that be an error? Certainly we have to allow the possibility that two origins might have overlapping nvras. Within a single origin, I'm not so sure. I suppose we can get away with some small consistency demands. As long as we're only enforcing unique nvra for local builds and indexing by sigmd5/similar, I don't think we /have/ to make this an error condition. In the same vein, what happens when an external repo has an nvra+sigmd5 matching a /local/ rpm? Maybe it doesn't matter, though I guess
rpms/edrip-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.6, 1.7 edrip-fonts.spec, 1.9, 1.10 import.log, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.6, 1.7
Author: nim
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/edrip-fonts/devel
In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv10058/devel
Modified Files:
.cvsignore edrip-fonts.spec import.log sources
Log Message:
some more coverage ð
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/edrip-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.6
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.6 -r1.7
--- .cvsignore 11 Jul 2008 20:32:04 - 1.6
+++ .cvsignore 18 Jul 2008 08:10:03 - 1.7
@@ -1 +1 @@
-edrip-src-20080710.tar.bz2
+edrip-src-20080717.tar.bz2
Index: edrip-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/edrip-fonts/devel/edrip-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.9
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -r1.9 -r1.10
--- edrip-fonts.spec11 Jul 2008 20:32:04 - 1.9
+++ edrip-fonts.spec18 Jul 2008 08:10:03 - 1.10
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
%define archivename %{fontname}-src-%{version}
Name:%{fontname}-fonts
-Version: 20080710
+Version: 20080717
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Edrip decorative font
@@ -75,6 +75,10 @@
%changelog
+* Fri Jul 17 2008 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 20080717-1
+ð
More cyrillic coverage
+
* Fri Jul 11 2008 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
- 20080710-1
â Fedora 10 alpha general package cleanup
Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/edrip-fonts/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- import.log 11 Jul 2008 20:32:04 - 1.1
+++ import.log 18 Jul 2008 08:10:03 - 1.2
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
edrip-fonts-20080710-1_fc10:HEAD:edrip-fonts-20080710-1.fc10.src.rpm:1215808287
+edrip-fonts-20080717-1_fc10_nim:HEAD:edrip-fonts-20080717-1.fc10.nim.src.rpm:1216368564
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/edrip-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.6
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.6 -r1.7
--- sources 11 Jul 2008 20:32:04 - 1.6
+++ sources 18 Jul 2008 08:10:03 - 1.7
@@ -1 +1 @@
-e450ea109fb70d2ca337cdbf3d57ec63 edrip-src-20080710.tar.bz2
+22887d7871edef64ccc67b7e0107050f edrip-src-20080717.tar.bz2
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[Bug 453077] fonts-indic is deprecated and should be removed
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[Bug 453081] fonts-sinhala is deprecated and should be removed
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rpms/padauk-fonts/F-9 sources,1.1,1.2
Author: mintojoseph Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/padauk-fonts/F-9 In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5856 Modified Files: sources Log Message: update source Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/padauk-fonts/F-9/sources,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2 --- sources 15 Jul 2008 22:11:11 - 1.1 +++ sources 18 Jul 2008 14:22:28 - 1.2 @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +f328e367efc7425d7b161d1c287d8caa ttf-sil-padauk-2.4.tar.gz ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/padauk-fonts/F-9 padauk-fonts-fontconfig.conf,NONE,1.1
Author: mintojoseph Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/padauk-fonts/F-9 In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv6185 Added Files: padauk-fonts-fontconfig.conf Log Message: add conf file --- NEW FILE padauk-fonts-fontconfig.conf --- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd fontconfig alias familyPadauk/family default familysans-serif/family /default /alias alias familysans-serif/family prefer familyPadauk/family /prefer /alias /fontconfig ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/padauk-fonts/F-8 padauk-fonts-fontconfig.conf,NONE,1.1
Author: mintojoseph Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/padauk-fonts/F-8 In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv6314 Added Files: padauk-fonts-fontconfig.conf Log Message: add conf file --- NEW FILE padauk-fonts-fontconfig.conf --- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd fontconfig alias familyPadauk/family default familysans-serif/family /default /alias alias familysans-serif/family prefer familyPadauk/family /prefer /alias /fontconfig ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454128] Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org
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[Bug 454128] Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454128 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-18 17:06 EST --- Fix the rpmlint warnings. While the mixed tab and spacing warnings are less serious, the permissions are definitely wrong. srpm: thibault-fonts.src: W: mixed-use-of-spaces-and-tabs (spaces: line 1, tab: line 12) thibault-fonts.src: W: strange-permission Essays1743-1.0-ttf.tar.gz 0777 thibault-fonts.src: W: strange-permission Rockets-ttf.tar.gz 0777 thibault-fonts.src: W: strange-permission StayPuft.tar.gz 0777 thibault-fonts.src: W: strange-permission Isabella.tar.gz 0777 1 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 5 warnings. Spec file: thibault-fonts.spec: W: mixed-use-of-spaces-and-tabs (spaces: line 1, tab: line 12) 0 packages and 1 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 1 warnings. OK | MUST: The package must be named according to the Package… OK | MUST: The spec file name must match the base package… OK | MUST: The package must meet the Packaging Guidelines… OK | MUST: The package must be licensed with a Fedora approved… OK | MUST: The License field in the package spec file must… OK | MUST: Packaged detached license and specified in %doc OK | MUST: The spec file for the package MUST be legible. OK | MUST: The package must successfully compile and build… OK | MUST: successfully compile, build OK | MUST: All build dependencies must be listed… OK | MUST: A package must own all directories that it creates OK | MUST: A package must not contain any duplicate files NOK | MUST: Permissions on files must be set properly. Please fix the incorrect permissions OK | MUST: Each package must have a %clean section OK | MUST: Each package must consistently use macros OK | MUST: The package must contain code, or permissible OK | MUST: Packages must not own files or directories already OK | MUST: At the beginning of %install, each package MUST… OK | MUST: All filenames in rpm packages must be valid UTF-8. OK | SHOULD: If the source package does not include license OK | SHOULD: The description and summary section … translations… OK | SHOULD: The package builds in mock OK | SHOULD: The package builds on all supported architectures OK | SHOULD: The reviewer should test that the package… OK | SHOULD: If scriptlets are used, those scriptlets must be sane… Add a font config file as described in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Annotated_fonts_spec_template and in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig_packaging_tips -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454967] Review Request: darkgarden-fonts - Dark Garden is a decorative outline font of unusual shape.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: darkgarden-fonts - Dark Garden is a decorative outline font of unusual shape. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454967 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-18 17:27 EST --- I would recommend following the standard template specified at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Annotated_fonts_spec_template It would ease the review process quite a bit if you follow that which is always a good thing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454175] Review Request: gfs-nicefore-fonts - GFS Nicefore majuscule Greek font
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[Bug 454175] Review Request: gfs-nicefore-fonts - GFS Nicefore majuscule Greek font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: gfs-nicefore-fonts - GFS Nicefore majuscule Greek font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454175 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-18 17:35 EST --- OK | MUST: rpmlint is clean OK | MUST: The package must be named according to the Package… Shouldn't the font directory name be consistent? Under /usr/share/docs it is gfs-nicecore-fonts and it is just called gfs-nicefore under /usr/share/fonts. I suppose that is a matter of taste since font packages don't seem to follow any particular convention here. OK | MUST: The spec file name must match the base package… OK | MUST: The package must meet the Packaging Guidelines… OK | MUST: The package must be licensed with a Fedora approved… OK | MUST: The License field in the package spec file must… OK | MUST: Packaged detached license and specified in %doc OK | MUST: The spec file for the package MUST be legible. OK | MUST: The package must successfully compile and build… OK | MUST: successfully compile, build OK | MUST: All build dependencies must be listed… OK | MUST: A package must own all directories that it creates OK | MUST: A package must not contain any duplicate files OK | MUST: Permissions on files must be set properly. OK | MUST: Each package must have a %clean section OK | MUST: Each package must consistently use macros OK | MUST: The package must contain code, or permissible OK | MUST: Packages must not own files or directories already OK | MUST: At the beginning of %install, each package MUST… OK | MUST: All filenames in rpm packages must be valid UTF-8. OK | SHOULD: If the source package does not include license OK | SHOULD: The description and summary section … translations… OK | SHOULD: The package builds in mock OK | SHOULD: The package builds on all supported architectures OK | SHOULD: The reviewer should test that the package… OK | SHOULD: If scriptlets are used, those scriptlets must be sane… APPROVED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454176] Review Request: gfs-jackson-fonts - GFS Jackson majuscule Greek font
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[Bug 454176] Review Request: gfs-jackson-fonts - GFS Jackson majuscule Greek font
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[Bug 261881] Review Request: ecolier-court- fonts - Ãcolier court fonts
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[Bug 261881] Review Request: ecolier-court- fonts - Ãcolier court fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: ecolier-court-fonts - Écolier court fonts https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=261881 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-18 19:55 EST --- OK | MUST: rpmlint is clean OK | MUST: The package must be named according to the Package… OK | MUST: The spec file name must match the base package… OK | MUST: The package must meet the Packaging Guidelines… OK | MUST: The package must be licensed with a Fedora approved… OK | MUST: The License field in the package spec file must… OK | MUST: Packaged detached license and specified in %doc OK | MUST: The spec file for the package MUST be legible. OK | MUST: The package must successfully compile and build… OK | MUST: successfully compile, build OK | MUST: All build dependencies must be listed… OK | MUST: A package must own all directories that it creates OK | MUST: A package must not contain any duplicate files OK | MUST: Permissions on files must be set properly. OK | MUST: Each package must have a %clean section OK | MUST: Each package must consistently use macros OK | MUST: The package must contain code, or permissible OK | MUST: Packages must not own files or directories already OK | MUST: At the beginning of %install, each package MUST… OK | MUST: All filenames in rpm packages must be valid UTF-8. OK | SHOULD: If the source package does not include license OK | SHOULD: The description and summary section … translations… OK | SHOULD: The package builds in mock OK | SHOULD: The package builds on all supported architectures OK | SHOULD: The reviewer should test that the package… OK | SHOULD: If scriptlets are used, those scriptlets must be sane… Please fix the typos: licence and traditionnal before you commit. The UTF-8 details have been hashed out already and I don't have much to add. I don't understand French and can't read the text file provided but I see the reference to OFL. Perhaps you should add a README.dist and include a note in English too? Probably not needed as the fonts are useful only for French folks. APPROVED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454175] Review Request: gfs-nicefore-fonts - GFS Nicefore majuscule Greek font
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[Bug 454128] Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454128 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-19 01:26 EST --- I think that isn't the packagers real name, and I thought the CLA didn't permit anonymous contributions. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: Database Upgrades
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: So next week will be an interesting week regarding our databases. It just so happened this way but db1 and db3 will be ready at about the same time. The new db1 will replace the old db1 exactly. We'd already migrated to it a couple of weeks ago but had to revert after some memory issues came up. I believe that has been resolved. db3 is a little different. db2 will remain as the primary database for all databases except for koji. Koji will get moved to db3 which will also have Postgresql 8.3 on it. I'd like to leave db2 at 8.1 for the immediate future, after we've determined db3 is a success we'll schedule a time to update db2 to 8.3 as well. Initial, very basic tests (db import) showed that with koji at least, postgresql 8.3 was significantly faster. 8.5 hours instead of 14.4 hours to import the koji database. From this point on please don't make any changes to db1, db2, db3, or the new db1 without coordinating with me first. This db freeze will be over after the upgrades. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
latest update
Is anyone having problems with the latest update of Fedora 9 I keep getting the message Dependency resolution failed and in More details: it says *Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fcp.i386(installed) and anouther that says its needed for nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-2.fc9.i386* I tried going to the terminal and doing a yum install gecko-libs but i get the same thing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bushido]# yum install gecko-libs Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package xulrunner.i386 0:1.9.0.1-1.fc9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 for package: nspluginwrapper -- Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 for package: yelp -- Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 for package: totem-mozplugin -- Running transaction check -- Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 for package: nspluginwrapper -- Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 for package: totem-mozplugin --- Package yelp.i386 0:2.22.1-4.fc9 set to be updated -- Finished Dependency Resolution totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386 (installed) nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-2.fc9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-2.fc9.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-2.fc9.i386 (installed) Anyone have any ideas ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: latest update
I am experiencing same problem while updating today... 13:32:02 : Preparing for install/remove/update 13:32:02 : -- Preparing for a full update 13:32:02 : -- Running transaction check 13:32:02 : --- Package yelp.i386 0:2.22.1-4.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:02 : --- Package binutils.i386 0:2.18.50.0.6-4.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package firefox.i386 0:3.0.1-1.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package device-mapper-multipath.i386 0:0.4.7-16.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package kpartx.i386 0:0.4.7-16.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package selinux-policy.noarch 0:3.3.1-78.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package cpio.i386 0:2.9-8.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package dmraid.i386 0:1.0.0.rc14-8.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : -- Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 for package: totem-mozplugin 13:32:03 : --- Package selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:3.3.1-78.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package xulrunner.i386 0:1.9.0.1-1.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package system-config-language.noarch 0:1.3.1-2.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:03 : --- Package nspluginwrapper.i386 0:1.1.0-3.fc9 set to be updated 13:32:08 : -- Finished Dependency Resolution 13:32:08 : totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems 13:32:08 : -- Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386 (installed) 13:32:17 : Error in Dependency Resolution 13:32:17 : Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386 (installed) On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Master M.A.G.E ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Is anyone having problems with the latest update of Fedora 9 I keep getting the message Dependency resolution failed and in More details: it says *Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fcp.i386(installed) and anouther that says its needed for nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-2.fc9.i386* I tried going to the terminal and doing a yum install gecko-libs but i get the same thing It's being fixed. Bill ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list -- مئھممد زیسشان -- مئھممد زیسشان ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 09:45 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: John Cornelius wrote: This discussion is becoming both increasingly religious and somewhat oblique in its depictions of the elements under discussion. It may be instructive to review the classic definitions of some of these elements in order to clarify in the minds of zealots from the several sides of the discussion and thereby promote a more rational discussion. Can you cite any consensus based definition of operating system other than what you've provided? I think that the POSIX specification is generally agreed to be the definition of one operating system interface, and it includes the shells, editors, compilers, etc that you've decided aren't part of an operating system. That's what we're getting at. GNU/Linux is an operating system. Linux is one of the kernels that GNU *can* use, and one of the most common that it does. GNU is not an operating system it is, and as far as I know always has been, a tool kit that is platform and operating system independent. I think that the GNU developers disagree with you. What makes your opinion more valid than theirs? GNU is not Linux and Linux is not GNU, it's just an evolution of a movement started by Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie nearly 40 years ago. Whoda thunk? I think you're giving Ken and Dennis too much credit. As far as I understand it, Unix was only distributed free of charge because ATT was concerned that its monopoly status prevented it from entering new markets. Look at Plan 9. Free Software? Nope. GNU modeled its operating system after Unix because it was a common system, not because there was any particular sharing of ideals or goals. The US government paid for the development of UNIX. That was the original source of its being free. The people of the US owned it. I got that from some folks very close to the source. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Make error for ralink wlan and kernel 2.6.25.10-47.fc8
Olaf Mueller daily-planet at istari.de writes: after updating to kernel 2.6.25.10-47.fc8 I can't build a new module for my ralink rt61 a/b/g wlan card. There is already a driver for RT61 devices in that kernel (the new rt2x00 driver: the module for RT61 is called rt61pci, but unless you did something strange to your modprobe.conf, it should be loaded automatically). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Acknowledge consent before login
Aldo Foot wrote: It's a legal requirement in some places to display some text advising the user that their keystrokes may be monitored and i agree with these and even tho op may not be needing this agreement for 'military' use, he may want it for his own employees. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Web Based system monitoring
Another option is collectd[1]. Or if you want something more ambitious, maybe should have a look at Nagios[2] and Nagios Grapher[3]. Or groundwork[4] that puts everything together. Regards Marcelo [1] http://collectd.org/ [2] http://www.nagios.org/ [3] http://wiki.contribs.org/Nagios_Grapher [4] http://www.groundworkopensource.com/community/community-edition.html Anthony Messina wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008 04:27:55 pm Seann Clark wrote: All, I know this isn't exactly the place to look for anything like this, but I am wondering from the Fedora users base, if there is any good/recommended tools to display real-time or near real time system information VIA web (AJAX or JAVA based) for a server? I would like to set up something where I can monitor server status at a glance without having 400 shell windows open (Like I do now when doing that stuff). I know Gnome and KDE have system monitoring applications, but since I dont' have X installed on the servers I desire to monitor like this, I figure web based would be next best. cacti (cacti.net) is a nice web-based frontend for snmp (and other) monitoring, it's not realtime by default, but updates every 5 minutes. that can be changed however to better suit your needs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Web Based system monitoring
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 16:27 -0500, Seann Clark wrote: All, I know this isn't exactly the place to look for anything like this, but I am wondering from the Fedora users base, if there is any good/recommended tools to display real-time or near real time system information VIA web (AJAX or JAVA based) for a server? I would like to set up something where I can monitor server status at a glance without having 400 shell windows open (Like I do now when doing that stuff). I know Gnome and KDE have system monitoring applications, but since I dont' have X installed on the servers I desire to monitor like this, I figure web based would be next best. You might want to take a look at PandoraFMS, it's a really cool monitoring system with web interface. You have an online demo here: http://artica.homelinux.com/pandora user demo password demo The official website is: http://pandora.sourceforge.net Manuel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: smbclient -N --no-pass broken
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:08:49 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:01:59 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: Example : $ smbclient -A /tmp/foo -N //192.168.200.10/a_share -D / -c ls Where : /tmp/foo contains : username=uname password=pass Under F7 this worked fine. The -N (or --no-pass) option helps deal with broken credentials files (/tmp/foo) so no prompt is requested or shown. For example in scripts, which should not hang. Under F9 this fails with : Anonymous login successful Domain=[FOO] OS=[Windows 5.0] Server=[Windows 2000 Lan Manager] tree connect failed : NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED I don't see anything in bugzilla about this. Should I bz or ask elsewhere about this? Options -A and -N are unrelated. Both skip the password prompt to make smbclient non-interactive. -A because it can read the credentials from a file. -N because it is used when no password is needed (login as guest/nobody). Either one worked for you, but access to the share was denied. What do you think is the bug? I definitely think -A and -N are related, because : 1) Sometimes a credentials file has a username and no password. Why? password= in the credentials file skips the password prompt, too, when no valid password is required. Without -N it prompts for the password; with -N it does not, and is suitable for a script, and should fail without prompting, whereas from the command line, as a test, it prompts, using the same credentials file either way. 2) If the credentials file is mangled, e.g; a sysadmin has misspelled 'password=', -N prevents the broken -A file from hanging the script. Misspelled or invalid credentials files make a script more difficult to debug anyway. Admin doesn't know whether the login failed or whether smbclient submitted the null password because of -N. When not using a credentials file but entering the password in the command-line, -N even overrides the given password with the null password. So, for debugging a script, this is not helpful. Today I found removing -N from the above example only improves things. On F9 : Adding the -N option causes 100% failure. Without the -N option, the example command works about 80% of the time. The other 20% of the calls give the anonymous,tree connect,NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED as described above. Let me sum up: Even without -N you get access denied at 20%. So, your authentication problems are unrelated to -N. That's impossible to comment on without verifying the Win2000 share setup. Can you confirm F9's smbclient behaviour when accessing a local Samba share? On F7 : Same scripts, same subnet, same server : 100% success. Since mount -t cifs appears to be 100% reliable on F7 and F9, and supports credentials files, I plan on abandoning the smb tools and re-writing the scripts unless something changes very soon. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Paul Johnson wrote: Please be more explicit. What are you referring to exactly? I said passing along 'respin' url's that you could check if you have not already. many who post on this and other tech list do not bother to mention where all they have looked, and you posted only one. i do not recall which one, or link from, as under 'qa' or 'faq', that i did see info. i also recall that sites have a 'search', which you could try. if it is too much for you to check sites or there was nothing to jump out and say 'here i am', my apologies for straining you eyes. one thing i know for sure from your post where you stated; livecd-creator \ --config=/usr/share/livecd-tools/livecd-fedora-desktop.ks \ --fslabel=Fedora-7-LiveCD-1-foo does not produce an F9 dvd. using '--fslabel=Fedora-7-LiveCD-1-foo' most definitely will not produce an f9. which tends to indicate that you have some lack in understanding of what you are trying to. among sites that i sent, there are instructions. also, 'tnwesttex' post may well be what you are wanting. my apologies for bothering you. go luck with your venture... -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
TNWestTex wrote: Robert McBroom interesting happenings. tried to log; http://www.nabble.com/Current-Respin-for-F9%2C-or-how-to-build-updated-F9-live-dvd-on-an-F7-system--tp18500775p18516657.html load started, showed a bar across page, then crashed firefox; mozilla/5.0 (x11;u; linux i686; en-us; rv1.9.0.1) geko/2008071611 redhat/30.0.1-1.el5/firefox/3.0.1 an ideas of why? thanks. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
firefox x86_64 update and a bunch of i386
I have a F9 system with only x86_64 packages installed and when I try to update firefox today it tries to install 76 i386 packages. Why is this? I don't want does i386 packages. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 09:52 +, g wrote: TNWestTex wrote: Robert McBroom interesting happenings. tried to log; http://www.nabble.com/Current-Respin-for-F9%2C-or-how-to-build-updated-F9-live-dvd-on-an-F7-system--tp18500775p18516657.html load started, showed a bar across page, then crashed firefox; mozilla/5.0 (x11;u; linux i686; en-us; rv1.9.0.1) geko/2008071611 redhat/30.0.1-1.el5/firefox/3.0.1 an ideas of why? Before concluding it's a FF problem, try it again with add-ons disabled. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: setroub;eshoot problem
max wrote: Steve wrote: max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 - The only other sane thing I could advise you too do is bounce your question off the fedora-selinux list. I would include a reference to this thread and all the relevant details. The kernel your running, the policy version (rpm -qa | grep selinux...setrouble) , setroubleshoot version, the error messages below , and that you run in permissive and used preupgrade to go from f8 to f9. This will ensure that the right people see your message, this list is also monitored but I think when they get busy fedora-selinux is likely to still get checked more often than fedora-list. I was trying to avoid this. I already get several hundred e-mails per day and I would guess that the selinux list is pretty busy too. Oh well, I'll just have to deal with it for a while. I found this in the SELinux list archives: http://www.nsa.gov/SELinux/list-archive/0801/thread_body36.cfm which appears to say there was a problem but it was fixed in a patch. I wonder if it has not made it to F9 yet? Steve It could be related but they seem to have been running mls policy which is not the default policy in f9. I think the patch would have made it into F9 by now, the thread dates back to January and F9 released in May if memory serves. I think in the end you will have to rebuild the policy. The only way that I know of to change the handle_unknown=deny to allow is at policy build time. This is set to allow in F8 and F9. Why yours is not this way is something I don't understand, unless mine is screwed up somehow but I doubt it. I have looked at two f9 boxes and an f8 box. All of them have the handle_unknown=allow. Maybe a third party could confirm this : dmesg | grep -i selinux Use the Force, Max Steve, Try semodule -B . It had completely slipped past me. It will force a rebuild and reload of policy. Checkout man semodule. Max -- Fortune favors the BOLD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Truecrypt on Fedora
http://arbitness.blogspot.com/2008/07/installing-truecrypt-on-fedora-9-howto.html Here is how you can compile and install Truecrypt on Fedora, there seam to be packages made for fedora. Can truecrypt be included in Fedora? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: flock
On Friday 18 July 2008, Robert P. J. Day wrote: type flockOn Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: Arnav Kalra wrote: How can i install flock on my fedora 8 laptop What is flock? What are you looking for? flock is a social network-oriented browser, with hooks for stuff like facebook, linkedin, etc. rday -- One old farts opinion: Why should we enable these creeps who exist solely for the purpose of collecting data on its users for sale to the highest bidder, or in some cases as a cruising site by pedophiles looking to score some underage action? Doubt me? Google for facebook and calling home, facebook's user client ignores your wishes to keep quiet, and calls home to facebook, reporting all your web activities. As one lady observed, scroom the camel that rode in on them. Ditto for reunion.com, a bro-in-laws winderz box was infected just this past week. It bombed everyone in his address database. All that stuff from linkedin etc that come in here gets fed to sa-learn -spam. For everyone who thinks those are neat sites, just remember TANSTAAFL. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The choice of approaches could be made the responsibility of the programmer. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Truecrypt on Fedora
Valent Turkovic wrote: http://arbitness.blogspot.com/2008/07/installing-truecrypt-on-fedora-9-howto.html Here is how you can compile and install Truecrypt on Fedora, there seam to be packages made for fedora. Can truecrypt be included in Fedora? No (due to nonfree licensing and/or maybe patents, don't recall precisely off the top of my head) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Truecrypt on Fedora
Valent Turkovic wrote: Can truecrypt be included in Fedora? No. The license has restrictions on distributing modifications. (I believe this is covered in the archives for this list and/or fedora-legal-list.) -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Aim Low, Reach Your Goals, Avoid Disappointment. pgpTmVIAAgjrG.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Jul 18, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I look at at this way: a unix-like operating system is the part that makes everything look like a file and applications that are portable across them only need an API of creat(), open(), read(), write(), and ioctl() API = UNIX-like C library? On GNU+Linux, GNU libc, right? Linux per se offers no such APIs. Nothing like many small programs, each doing a single simple task very well, that can be combined through pipes and a powerful shell programming language would be part of the UNIX philosophy, because, well, these small programs wouldn't be part of UNIX per this narrow definition. That's a good idea under any OS, not particularly unique to unix. Heh. Discarding part of a statement to make it fit others isn't very nice :-) Good ideas are present in any OS, so... whatever conclusion you might want to get to :-) The c library isn't unique to unix by design. I don't understand what you're trying to communicate here, there are several different possible interpretations. Please expand or use different words? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! = http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: flock
Robert P. J. Day wrote: type flockOn Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: Arnav Kalra wrote: How can i install flock on my fedora 8 laptop What is flock? What are you looking for? flock is a social network-oriented browser, with hooks for stuff like facebook, linkedin, etc. heh, ok. pkg review submission needed and welcome then. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: flock
ummm gene... forgive me.. but what the heck are you talking about! i use linkedin extensively.. never had a problem with it capturing my web site/travel information.. of course i ignore the ability to peruse my outlook/email addresses as i don't want to spam other people... it's perfectly ok for sites to ask you if they can use the information they collect on you for other purposes, as long as they spell the purposes out. it's also perfectly ok for you to not use their services.. and i'm also willing to bet that you're wrong regarding any facebook client calling home, reporting all your internet travels.. so, enlighten us, what's your real issue??? and yeah, i'm a 47 year old dude who's been dealing with tech when alot of these guys weren't finished crawling to their moms!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gene Heskett Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:52 AM To: For users of Fedora Subject: Re: flock On Friday 18 July 2008, Robert P. J. Day wrote: type flockOn Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: Arnav Kalra wrote: How can i install flock on my fedora 8 laptop What is flock? What are you looking for? flock is a social network-oriented browser, with hooks for stuff like facebook, linkedin, etc. rday -- One old farts opinion: Why should we enable these creeps who exist solely for the purpose of collecting data on its users for sale to the highest bidder, or in some cases as a cruising site by pedophiles looking to score some underage action? Doubt me? Google for facebook and calling home, facebook's user client ignores your wishes to keep quiet, and calls home to facebook, reporting all your web activities. As one lady observed, scroom the camel that rode in on them. Ditto for reunion.com, a bro-in-laws winderz box was infected just this past week. It bombed everyone in his address database. All that stuff from linkedin etc that come in here gets fed to sa-learn -spam. For everyone who thinks those are neat sites, just remember TANSTAAFL. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The choice of approaches could be made the responsibility of the programmer. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
I upgraded to F9 when it first came out. Everything works, but my desktop is a mess. But surely I am missing something, after all, why are the KDE developers so proud of their work ? So... how is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ? Right now I have about 100 icons for folders and files randomly dispersed on the desktop. How do I clean them up and get my desktop organized again ? I hate that I can't drag and drop files into folders on the desktop. Is there a way to do this without using Dolphin ? I hate the collars that appear around the file and folder icons. Can they be turned off ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE4 Desktop icons ?
linuxguy wrote: I upgraded to F9 when it first came out. Everything works, but my desktop is a mess. But surely I am missing something, after all, why are the KDE developers so proud of their work ? I'll skip the passive snarkiness here. Oh wait... :) So... how is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ? Right now I have about 100 icons for folders and files randomly dispersed on the desktop. How do I clean them up and get my desktop organized again ? the Desktop was kinda lame in 4.0. 4.1 includes a folderview plasma widget that will be closer to classic expectations/usage. I hate that I can't drag and drop files into folders on the desktop. Is there a way to do this without using Dolphin ? nope. The desktop emulation in 4.0 was to emulate each file/folder in your Desktop folder as an independent plasma widget (see lame comment above). besides, hate is such a strong word. chill. I hate the collars that appear around the file and folder icons. Can they be turned off ? nope -- Rex p.s. I hate posts that use the word hate, especially hate responding to posts mentioning hate. oops. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE4 Desktop icons ?
On Friday 18 July 2008 16:36:00 Rex Dieter wrote: linuxguy wrote: I upgraded to F9 when it first came out. Everything works, but my desktop is a mess. But surely I am missing something, after all, why are the KDE developers so proud of their work ? I'll skip the passive snarkiness here. Oh wait... :) So... how is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ? Right now I have about 100 icons for folders and files randomly dispersed on the desktop. How do I clean them up and get my desktop organized again ? the Desktop was kinda lame in 4.0. 4.1 includes a folderview plasma widget that will be closer to classic expectations/usage. I hate that I can't drag and drop files into folders on the desktop. Is there a way to do this without using Dolphin ? nope. The desktop emulation in 4.0 was to emulate each file/folder in your Desktop folder as an independent plasma widget (see lame comment above). besides, hate is such a strong word. chill. I hate the collars that appear around the file and folder icons. Can they be turned off ? nope -- Rex p.s. I hate posts that use the word hate, especially hate responding to posts mentioning hate. oops. Some end-user documentation to make the changeover easier is in preparation. As soon as the pages are up I'll post links on all the MLs I frequent. It's a long job, since content has to be gathered then sanity-checked before posting onto public pages. Expect the first one in a few days. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
bind update keeps messing up write-rights
Hey List, Not sure why this is happening so perhaps someone can explain this to me. Whenever I update bind it messes up/resets access rights on my zone files. Now normally this wouldn't be a bad thing, but because I have dynamic updates on, for which named creates journalizing files, I end up having non-writeable journalizing files. So after every update I end up having to manually change the access rights on my jnl files. Is anyone else having the same problem and/or is it supposed to be like this? Regards, Gijs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Friday 18 July 2008 16:20:44 linuxguy wrote: I upgraded to F9 when it first came out. Everything works, but my desktop is a mess. But surely I am missing something, after all, why are the KDE developers so proud of their work ? So... how is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ? Right now I have about 100 icons for folders and files randomly dispersed on the desktop. How do I clean them up and get my desktop organized again ? I hate that I can't drag and drop files into folders on the desktop. Is there a way to do this without using Dolphin ? I hate the collars that appear around the file and folder icons. Can they be turned off ? Yep - I hated it too, when I first saw it. Stick with it a while and learn how to get the best from it. I wouldn't go back for anything now I've used it a while. Can't wait for 4.1, though :-) If there are things you can't figure out for yourself, ask about them. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
2008/7/18 linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I upgraded to F9 when it first came out. Everything works, but my desktop is a mess. But surely I am missing something, after all, why are the KDE developers so proud of their work ? So... how is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ? Right now I have about 100 icons for folders and files randomly dispersed on the desktop. How do I clean them up and get my desktop organized again ? I hate that I can't drag and drop files into folders on the desktop. Is there a way to do this without using Dolphin ? I hate the collars that appear around the file and folder icons. Can they be turned off ? Thanks I use KDE 4 daily on both of my computers, as the primary desktop environment. I don't like the new desktop icons either, but I just turned them off. The ability to manage files on the desktop background is far from necessary, imo. In addition, there is greatly improved support for desktop icons coming in KDE 4.1, so this is just a temporary solution until the better one is ready. -- Joonas Sarajärvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Remi's F8 firefox2 update breaks evolution-rss
Remi's latest firefox2 update appears to provide a newer version of gecko-libs, but evolution-rss still requires gecko-libs = 1.8.1.15. As a result, I can't update firefox2, so I can't update devhelp or yelp. Where's the breakage here? Does the Fedora firefox update have the same problem? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: bind update keeps messing up write-rights
Around 04:48pm on Friday, July 18, 2008 (UK time), Gijs scrawled: Not sure why this is happening so perhaps someone can explain this to me. Whenever I update bind it messes up/resets access rights on my zone files. Now normally this wouldn't be a bad thing, but because I have dynamic updates on, for which named creates journalizing files, I end up having non-writeable journalizing files. So after every update I end up having to manually change the access rights on my jnl files. Is anyone else having the same problem and/or is it supposed to be like this? I am having exactly this problem on my CentOS server. It started recently and I haven't managed to fix it, or find any more about it yet. It bugs the hell out of me - if you do get a solution outside this board can you let me know. thanks Steve -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? 16:51:47 up 21 days, 6:42, 1 user, load average: 0.33, 0.24, 0.10 pgpP1AhLNPiks.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Printing with Canon Pixma iP1800 on Fedora Core 7
Hi, I have a printer Canon Pixma iP1800 and I want to print on Linux. I installed the following packages: #yum localinstall –nogpgcheck cnijfilter-common-2.70-1.i386.rpmhttp://www.canon.com.au/products/printers/colour_bj_printers/ip1800_support.aspx # yum localinstall –nogpgcheck cnijfilter-ip1800series-2.70-1.i386.rpmhttp://www.canon.com.au/products/printers/colour_bj_printers/ip1800_support.aspx They worked, the printer seems to be recognized (Im not sure) but it won't print. When I send work to print Fedora doesnt report any problem but the printer doesnt make a thing. Does any1 know how I can fix that? If that is so, plz I would like to get some instructions, since I'm new on Linux. Thank u, Valentina -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Remi's F8 firefox2 update breaks evolution-rss
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:57:25 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Remi's latest firefox2 update appears to provide a newer version of gecko-libs, but evolution-rss still requires gecko-libs = 1.8.1.15. As a result, I can't update firefox2, so I can't update devhelp or yelp. Where's the breakage here? Does the Fedora firefox update have the same problem? This one does: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-6491 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Make error for ralink wlan and kernel 2.6.25.10-47.fc8
Olaf Mueller daily-planet at istari.de writes: I did blacklist rt61pci under /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Any other ideas to get the original ralink sources working with the new kernel? Why don't you just let the old driver die and use the new one (i.e. remove the blacklist)? rt2x00 is working fine these days. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Maybe try the Noscript add-on? I use it routinely. poc i install a few ffox plugins, 2 days ago, do not recall seeing such. is it's name 'noscript' and from mozilla? -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: bind update keeps messing up write-rights
Steve Searle wrote: Around 04:48pm on Friday, July 18, 2008 (UK time), Gijs scrawled: Not sure why this is happening so perhaps someone can explain this to me. Whenever I update bind it messes up/resets access rights on my zone files. Now normally this wouldn't be a bad thing, but because I have dynamic updates on, for which named creates journalizing files, I end up having non-writeable journalizing files. So after every update I end up having to manually change the access rights on my jnl files. Is anyone else having the same problem and/or is it supposed to be like this? I am having exactly this problem on my CentOS server. It started recently and I haven't managed to fix it, or find any more about it yet. It bugs the hell out of me - if you do get a solution outside this board can you let me know. It's undoubtedly one of the %post scripts in the rpm that's doing it. Bugzilla it. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - -- -Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.- -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Its not a KDE4.0 bashing session... was: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 18:50 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: I use KDE 4 daily on both of my computers, as the primary desktop environment. I don't like the new desktop icons either, but I just turned them off. The ability to manage files on the desktop background is far from necessary, imo. In addition, there is greatly improved support for desktop icons coming in KDE 4.1, so this is just a temporary solution until the better one is ready. a) I didn't mean to start a KDE4.0 bashing session. I am not asking for a commentary on it. Its installed on my computer and I suspect I am not using it to its fullest potential and I want to. How ? b) I don't like the new desktop icons either, but I just turned them off. Do you mean you turned off the collars so that they look like the icons did in KDE 3.5.9 ? How ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Alexandre Oliva wrote: I look at at this way: a unix-like operating system is the part that makes everything look like a file and applications that are portable across them only need an API of creat(), open(), read(), write(), and ioctl() API = UNIX-like C library? On GNU+Linux, GNU libc, right? Linux per se offers no such APIs. In the original design, the things in section 2 of the manual (fork(), open(), pipe(), etc.) were system calls and thus by definition what the operating system does. Now everything is stubbed into the c library so it is harder to tell the difference unless you look at the man section number that documents the function. Nothing like many small programs, each doing a single simple task very well, that can be combined through pipes and a powerful shell programming language would be part of the UNIX philosophy, because, well, these small programs wouldn't be part of UNIX per this narrow definition. That's a good idea under any OS, not particularly unique to unix. Heh. Discarding part of a statement to make it fit others isn't very nice :-) Good ideas are present in any OS, so... whatever conclusion you might want to get to :-) The philosophy is loosely associated with unix and aided by it's ability to fork fairly lightweight processes, but really isn't specific to anything, much less whether something is GNU-ish or not. Emacs, the very first GNU program, was probably the thing most widely accused of straying from the 'small program that does one thing' concept in its day. (Actually, I think emacs goes back farther than unix, but my memory is a little fuzzy that far back). The c library isn't unique to unix by design. I don't understand what you're trying to communicate here, there are several different possible interpretations. Please expand or use different words? We've strayed from GNU vs. not-GNU into unix vs. not-unix, but the point of unix-like operating systems is to hide the differences among processor types and i/o devices and present the system calls as described in section 2 of the manual regardless of the hardware - and to do some special stuff in process id 1 which is the only one not created by fork() with inherited file descriptors. The point of the standard c library is to hide the differences among operating systems. But back to GNU vs. not-GNU. There is a GNU operating system. Nobody uses it and there are reasons for that. Instead of fixing those reasons, they want to tack their name onto the distributions that people do use because some portable applications from their set are often included. For reasons I've already covered, I'd rather see distributions minimize the GPL-encumbered code and use things from the *bsd or opensolaris projects instead - except for gcc which I don't think has a less restricted counterpart. Then the GNU project could just go its own way in the isolation the GPL demands while the rest of the world cooperates and interoperates at the component level. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Hardware
Hello all, I'm about to build a new computer. I've been using Asus for years and have F8 running flawless on it. Any suggestions? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: bind update keeps messing up write-rights
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 09:36 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Steve Searle wrote: Around 04:48pm on Friday, July 18, 2008 (UK time), Gijs scrawled: Not sure why this is happening so perhaps someone can explain this to me. Whenever I update bind it messes up/resets access rights on my zone files. Now normally this wouldn't be a bad thing, but because I have dynamic updates on, for which named creates journalizing files, I end up having non-writeable journalizing files. So after every update I end up having to manually change the access rights on my jnl files. Is anyone else having the same problem and/or is it supposed to be like this? I am having exactly this problem on my CentOS server. It started recently and I haven't managed to fix it, or find any more about it yet. It bugs the hell out of me - if you do get a solution outside this board can you let me know. It's undoubtedly one of the %post scripts in the rpm that's doing it. Bugzilla it. actually, I don't use Fedora for bind but rather RHEL or CentOS and it exhibits the same behavior if I have dynamic updates turned on too. The same thing happens if I just restart manually but seemingly not when logs rotate. I presume that a complete shutdown/restart should have the initscript delete the journal files or something but I never bothered trying to figure it out. you can chmod g+s, g+w /var/named/chroot/var/named to ensure that the journal files are always created as group named Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Hardware
2008/7/18 Robert Karge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, I'm about to build a new computer. I've been using Asus for years and have F8 running flawless on it. Any suggestions? Well, you generally can't go wrong with ASUS but as you didn't list a price range or where you want to be on the technology curve so it's hard to make any suggestions... Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Its not a KDE4.0 bashing session... was: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
2008/7/18 linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 18:50 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: I use KDE 4 daily on both of my computers, as the primary desktop environment. I don't like the new desktop icons either, but I just turned them off. The ability to manage files on the desktop background is far from necessary, imo. In addition, there is greatly improved support for desktop icons coming in KDE 4.1, so this is just a temporary solution until the better one is ready. a) I didn't mean to start a KDE4.0 bashing session. I am not asking for a commentary on it. Its installed on my computer and I suspect I am not using it to its fullest potential and I want to. How ? I really think the desktop icon implementation in KDE 4.0 is close to unusable, and I thus disabled them completely. I Instead use the desktop to display a beautiful wallpaper, that I can even decorate with a few pictures (the picture frame plasmoid) and a big clock. The desktop icons are... interesting, but not really useful. At least I can now enjoy the actuall desktop wallpaper and not the usual mess I get when I am too lazy to keep my files organized elsewhere than the desktop. I think the optimal use of the KDE 4.0 desktop space is to use it for anything else besides icons. b) I don't like the new desktop icons either, but I just turned them off. Do you mean you turned off the collars so that they look like the icons did in KDE 3.5.9 ? How ? I don't know how to get rid of the collars. Fortunately, the folderview applet in KDE 4.1 doesn't have them around icons. The frame around the applet itself is probably dependent on the plasma theme that is being used. -- Joonas Sarajärvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: flock
On Friday 18 July 2008, bruce wrote: ummm gene... forgive me.. but what the heck are you talking about! i use linkedin extensively.. never had a problem with it capturing my web site/travel information.. of course i ignore the ability to peruse my outlook/email addresses as i don't want to spam other people... it's perfectly ok for sites to ask you if they can use the information they collect on you for other purposes, as long as they spell the purposes out. it's also perfectly ok for you to not use their services.. and i'm also willing to bet that you're wrong regarding any facebook client calling home, reporting all your internet travels.. so, enlighten us, what's your real issue??? and yeah, i'm a 47 year old dude who's been dealing with tech when alot of these guys weren't finished crawling to their moms!! Ahh, you are just a youngster yet, but you'll learn. :) I got the electronics virus (its incurable) back in the middle 1940's from an alcoholic uncle, largely self educated, I quit school and started out doing consumer electronics service about the time others were freshmen in high school, but switched to tv engineering for the last 45 years, since '78 the sign on the door has said Chief Engineer, since '84 at a tv station here in WV. Now 73, I keep trying to retire, but when TSHTF, my phone still rings. It has been quite a ride so far. There was a story, I think on /., 2-3 days ago about facebook and calling home. Apparently the person had caught it in the act, then checked the config he had set, and it was turned off, but it was reporting despite its being turned off. The exact details are lost in the CRS syndrome that seems to go with the accumulated years, but should be easily found. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gene Heskett Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:52 AM To: For users of Fedora Subject: Re: flock On Friday 18 July 2008, Robert P. J. Day wrote: type flockOn Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: Arnav Kalra wrote: How can i install flock on my fedora 8 laptop What is flock? What are you looking for? flock is a social network-oriented browser, with hooks for stuff like facebook, linkedin, etc. rday -- One old farts opinion: Why should we enable these creeps who exist solely for the purpose of collecting data on its users for sale to the highest bidder, or in some cases as a cruising site by pedophiles looking to score some underage action? Doubt me? Google for facebook and calling home, facebook's user client ignores your wishes to keep quiet, and calls home to facebook, reporting all your web activities. As one lady observed, scroom the camel that rode in on them. Ditto for reunion.com, a bro-in-laws winderz box was infected just this past week. It bombed everyone in his address database. All that stuff from linkedin etc that come in here gets fed to sa-learn -spam. For everyone who thinks those are neat sites, just remember TANSTAAFL. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The choice of approaches could be made the responsibility of the programmer. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Be a better psychiatrist and the world will beat a psychopath to your door. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Friday 18 July 2008 17:11:43 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? ?? 1024x768 is landscape, isn't it? He probably meant widescreen. However, to answer the question, no...not really. 1024x768 is a standard resolution for a 4:3 style monitor up to a particular size (14 and 15 monitors come to mind). You remember: 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 (most 17 screens) 1600x1200 (19/20) -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes: 1) How do I resize the Desktop plasmoid? It has no handles. You mean the folderview showing the desktop icons? Or the whole desktop? If it's the latter, that shouldn't need to be resized at all (see also point 4). 2) How do I rearrange stuff in the Panel? There used to be a gawd-awful start move/end move thing on the panel menu in 4.0 but at least it worked. Now it's gone. You put up the panel controller then you dragdrop your applet. See: http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/07/05/move-your-applets-freely/ 4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? Is this some sort of dual screen configuration, e.g. a laptop with an external video output? If so, it's probably picking up the size of the wrong display: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440239 Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
2008/7/18 linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I upgraded to F9 when it first came out. Everything works, but my desktop is a mess. But surely I am missing something, after all, why are the KDE developers so proud of their work ? So... how is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ? Right now I have about 100 icons for folders and files randomly dispersed on the desktop. How do I clean them up and get my desktop organized again ? I hate that I can't drag and drop files into folders on the desktop. Is there a way to do this without using Dolphin ? I hate the collars that appear around the file and folder icons. Can they be turned off ? Thanks I use KDE 4 daily on both of my computers, as the primary desktop environment. I don't like the new desktop icons either, but I just turned them off. The ability to manage files on the desktop background is far from necessary, imo. In addition, there is greatly improved support for desktop icons coming in KDE 4.1, so this is just a temporary solution until the better one is ready. Currently, I'm only running F9/KDE4 on one system (desktop...not upgrading my laptop until I have a chance to try out KDE4.1 on my desktop). I don't put much on my desktop...I use the Favorites section of the menu. I've never been a big fan of cluttering my desktop, anyhow...too difficult to remember what's there, and where it is. My one concern, now that I've been using it a while, is the limited functionality of the Plasma widget tool in the upper left corner. I've read a number of write-ups on KDE4, and note that there a couple of things not set up to run from that widget...right now, it only allows you to add/remove widgets from various places. My understanding is that you should be able to work with a number of settings, from the Cashew, than we seem to be able to do, now. Another thing I miss, going from KDE3 to KDE4, is that KDE3 would save the state of my desktop, so that any apps/konsoles I had up when I logged out would be brought back up when I logged back in. I'm having some trouble locating a setting for that, right now. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com writes: 4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? ?? 1024x768 is landscape, isn't it? He means widescreen (i.e. wider than 4:3). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Truecrypt on Fedora - OT
Valent Turkovic wrote: http://arbitness.blogspot.com/2008/07/installing-truecrypt-on-fedora-9-howto.html Here is how you can compile and install Truecrypt on Fedora, there seam to be packages made for fedora. Can truecrypt be included in Fedora? Cheers, Valent. I am adding this to the thread but I added the OT because it takes a different direction. http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/07/17/2043248.shtml Schneier, UW Team Show Flaw In TrueCrypt Deniability Now this covers upto TC5 and it is reported that TC6 fixes many of these issues. To make TrueCrypt fully effective, you still need to have an encrypted drive. Watch for all those temp files and many desktop applications that store opened files and paths. I have seen this in many programs. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: bind update keeps messing up write-rights
Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 09:36 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Steve Searle wrote: Around 04:48pm on Friday, July 18, 2008 (UK time), Gijs scrawled: Not sure why this is happening so perhaps someone can explain this to me. Whenever I update bind it messes up/resets access rights on my zone files. Now normally this wouldn't be a bad thing, but because I have dynamic updates on, for which named creates journalizing files, I end up having non-writeable journalizing files. So after every update I end up having to manually change the access rights on my jnl files. Is anyone else having the same problem and/or is it supposed to be like this? I am having exactly this problem on my CentOS server. It started recently and I haven't managed to fix it, or find any more about it yet. It bugs the hell out of me - if you do get a solution outside this board can you let me know. It's undoubtedly one of the %post scripts in the rpm that's doing it. Bugzilla it. actually, I don't use Fedora for bind but rather RHEL or CentOS and it exhibits the same behavior if I have dynamic updates turned on too. The same thing happens if I just restart manually but seemingly not when logs rotate. I presume that a complete shutdown/restart should have the initscript delete the journal files or something but I never bothered trying to figure it out. you can chmod g+s, g+w /var/named/chroot/var/named to ensure that the journal files are always created as group named Craig I only see the problem occur after I update, not when I restart/shutdown named. And I kinda had the same feeling, about not wanting to bother to try and figure it out, but this has happened so many times before, I got kinda annoyed of it :P And your solution, using chmod, might work if named recreates journal files every restart. But when I restart named, it does not recreate them. It just leaves them as they are (neither does it chown/chmod them for that matter). Maybe RHEL recreates jnl files every restart, but that I don't know :) Anyway, the bug is filed under: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455894 Regards, Gijs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: yum update/install from a specific repo
PK wrote: hmm close enough. But still not what I was hoping for. the above approach sure works but I would have to know all the repo names. It might be easy for this world is not perfect for everyone. but it is best one around for breathing oxygen. have a look at attached. from what you have be told in this thread, and reading attached, you may realize what to do to get what you want. rots a ruk pk. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. Name: yum-aliases Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.10Vendor: Scientific Linux Release : 10.el5Build Date: Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:05:47 PM UTC Install Date: Sat 12 Jul 2008 01:06:54 PM UTC Build Host: norob.fnal.gov Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: yum-utils-1.1.10-10.el5.src.rpm Size: 14940License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:25:22 PM UTC, Key ID da6ad00882fd17b2 URL : http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/ Summary : Yum plugin to enable aliases filters Description : This plugin adds the command alias, and parses the aliases config. file to enable aliases. Name: yum-allowdowngrade Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.10Vendor: Scientific Linux Release : 10.el5Build Date: Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:05:47 PM UTC Install Date: Sat 12 Jul 2008 01:06:54 PM UTC Build Host: norob.fnal.gov Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: yum-utils-1.1.10-10.el5.src.rpm Size: 3489 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:25:22 PM UTC, Key ID da6ad00882fd17b2 URL : http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/ Summary : Yum plugin to enable manual downgrading of packages Description : This plugin adds a --allow-downgrade flag to yum to make it possible to manually downgrade packages to specific versions. Name: yum-basearchonly Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.10Vendor: Scientific Linux Release : 10.el5Build Date: Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:05:47 PM UTC Install Date: Sat 12 Jul 2008 01:06:54 PM UTC Build Host: norob.fnal.gov Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: yum-utils-1.1.10-10.el5.src.rpm Size: 6186 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:25:22 PM UTC, Key ID da6ad00882fd17b2 URL : http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/ Summary : Yum plugin to let Yum install only basearch packages. Description : this plugin makes Yum only install basearch packages on multiarch systems. If you type 'yum install foo' on a x68_64 system, only 'foo-x.y.x86_46.rpm' is installed. If you want to install the foo-x.y.i386.rpm, you have to type 'yum install foo.i386'. The plugin only works with 'yum install'. Name: yum-changelogRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.10Vendor: Scientific Linux Release : 10.el5Build Date: Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:05:47 PM UTC Install Date: Sat 12 Jul 2008 01:06:54 PM UTC Build Host: norob.fnal.gov Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: yum-utils-1.1.10-10.el5.src.rpm Size: 11964License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:25:22 PM UTC, Key ID da6ad00882fd17b2 URL : http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/ Summary : Yum plugin for viewing package changelogs before/after updating Description : This plugin adds a command line option to allow viewing package changelog deltas before or after updating packages. Name: yum-downloadonly Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.10Vendor: Scientific Linux Release : 10.el5Build Date: Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:05:47 PM UTC Install Date: Sat 12 Jul 2008 01:06:55 PM UTC Build Host: norob.fnal.gov Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: yum-utils-1.1.10-10.el5.src.rpm Size: 4618 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:25:22 PM UTC, Key ID da6ad00882fd17b2 URL : http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/ Summary : Yum plugin to add downloadonly command option Description : This plugin adds a --downloadonly flag to yum so that yum will only download the packages and not install/update them. Name: yum-fastestmirrorRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.10Vendor: Scientific Linux Release : 10.el5Build Date: Wed 11 Jun 2008 04:05:47 PM UTC Install Date: Sat 12 Jul 2008 12:58:24 PM UTC Build Host: norob.fnal.gov Group : System Environment/Base
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Friday 18 July 2008 18:05:44 Kevin Kofler wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes: 1) How do I resize the Desktop plasmoid? It has no handles. You mean the folderview showing the desktop icons? Or the whole desktop? If it's the latter, that shouldn't need to be resized at all (see also point 4). 2) How do I rearrange stuff in the Panel? There used to be a gawd-awful start move/end move thing on the panel menu in 4.0 but at least it worked. Now it's gone. You put up the panel controller then you dragdrop your applet. See: http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/07/05/move-your-applets-freely/ Second sentence, Kevin - quote This will be included in KDE 4.1 final. /quote Standard Fedora and Mandriva are still on 4.0.x. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
But back to GNU vs. not-GNU. There is a GNU operating system. Nobody uses it and there are reasons for that. Instead of fixing those reasons, they want to tack their name onto the distributions that people do use because some portable applications from their set are often included. For reasons I've already covered, I'd rather see distributions minimize the GPL-encumbered code and use things from the *bsd or opensolaris projects instead - except for gcc which I don't think has a less restricted counterpart. Then the GNU project could just go its own way in the isolation the GPL demands while the rest of the world cooperates and interoperates at the component level. -- While ideally that would be nice, it won't happen :( Which license should be used then, if the above happens? There are other free licenses/open source licenses around, but which is the best one to use? As I understand, if one uses Linux Linux === GPL *BSD == BSD/GPL(for KDE/Gnome other DE) Solaris === CDDL A license that is often mentioned indirectly is the Beerware license http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware Would that one be accepted as an appropriate license? People have to pay bills, support their families, gas up their vehicles, from where would the motivation come to continue giving up some work for no $, Which is the best way to continue and support your favorite OS and applications at the same time? There are many revisions to the GPL as of now, and I believe that one was posted on this list, how can cooperation be achieved and also protect the code as well? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:29 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 18 July 2008 17:11:43 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Be careful what you ask for Anne :-) Here are some (using 4.0.98 at the moment): 1) How do I resize the Desktop plasmoid? It has no handles. AIUI, that is a 4.1 feature. I'm pretty certain I've read that that's fixed in 4.1. 2) How do I rearrange stuff in the Panel? There used to be a gawd-awful start move/end move thing on the panel menu in 4.0 but at least it worked. Now it's gone. I'm not using Fedora at this moment, so I can't check, but it was there last week. However, I understand that that was a Fedora work-around. I *think* it's fixed in 4.1. Meanwhile, the recommended method in 4.0 is to delete icons from the panel and add them again in the order you want them. 3) Why is the Kmix icon in minimized state (i.e. in the panel) different from its normal icon? This last could be my config as I just carried it over from 3.5, but I don't see any way to change it. Actually, kmix is reluctant to show at all on mine :-) Seriously, though, I've wondered about that myself. The tiny icons that sit in two rows seem to be the things that load at startup, like klipper, wifi-status-indicator, korgac, and so on. Do you find the same? There seem to be two kinds: those that are just there because, such as Kmix, NM etc., and others that one puts there through the Autostart dialogue. In my case I only added Ktorrent to this last, nevertheless I have Kmix, Pidgin, NM, Amarok, Ksensors, Kpowersave (?) and the keyboard switcher thingy. I'm sure I did add these all at some point in my 3.5 days, but I no longer know where to change them. I'll try to find the answer to that one. 4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? ?? 1024x768 is landscape, isn't it? No, it's 4x3 or a standard square TV monitor. Landscape is 16x9. I've set it correctly using the Display dialogue, but it doesn't remember its state. However as soon as I click on the Display setting it *immediately* corrects itself to 1440x900 without me touching anything else (except that I now have to resize some windows, not to mention the panel which doesn't adjust itself). I reported a version of this to BZ a while back but I need to update it. I don't think this is KDE-related at all. I think it's more concerned with the new way that X is being served - you know, not reading xorg.conf if it can get away without it. Just my guess, though. Maybe. I'm sure I can think of more but these are the most annoying. Luckily nothing is a showstopper. Yes, there are many small annoyances in 4.0, and there will still be some, though nowhere like as many, in 4.1, but, as you say, they are not show-stoppers. I was tempted to revert to the old ways, like using the Classic Menu, but stuck it out so that I could give support. I'm glad I did, as I find I have adapted my working practices almost without noticing, and I really like some of the changes. In passing, it may interest you to know that some of the developments were held up because they depend on Qt4, and Qt4 is still very much in development. As the boundaries are being pushed new needs are being discovered, and fixed as fast as devs can work. Thanks Anne. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? ?? 1024x768 is landscape, isn't it? This one is easy, just edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root user and add Modes lines Original can look like: Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Add the Modes line with your optimal resolution included Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1440x900 1280x800 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection The numbers here can changed but namely you prefer 1440x900 as I saw in previous post. Try that and Deskop should start in your preferred resolution :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:07 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: Another thing I miss, going from KDE3 to KDE4, is that KDE3 would save the state of my desktop, so that any apps/konsoles I had up when I logged out would be brought back up when I logged back in. Settings-Advanced Tab-Session Manager-Restore Previous Session (or Manually Saved Session etc.). This is on 4.0.98. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:05 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes: 1) How do I resize the Desktop plasmoid? It has no handles. You mean the folderview showing the desktop icons? Or the whole desktop? If it's the latter, that shouldn't need to be resized at all (see also point 4). It's the former. 2) How do I rearrange stuff in the Panel? There used to be a gawd-awful start move/end move thing on the panel menu in 4.0 but at least it worked. Now it's gone. You put up the panel controller then you dragdrop your applet. See: http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/07/05/move-your-applets-freely/ Nice. 4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? Is this some sort of dual screen configuration, e.g. a laptop with an external video output? If so, it's probably picking up the size of the wrong display: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440239 Nope, it's a bog-standard 19 Samsung SyncMaster 920 running off an onboard Intel 965. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 + NM: wireless options don't come up from hibernate on Thinkpad T61
Hi, I boot into a machine on wired ethernet. All is well, the wireless options come up as well as wired (which is connected). However, after I put the laptop on hibernate and wake it up, the wireless options are all gone, and the only option is the wired eth0 (without a reboot). If I go away from my wired network, rebooting is the only option. Does anyone have this problem? Any suggestions as to how I can fix this? Many thanks, Trotter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 18:51 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 18 July 2008 18:05:44 Kevin Kofler wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes: 1) How do I resize the Desktop plasmoid? It has no handles. You mean the folderview showing the desktop icons? Or the whole desktop? If it's the latter, that shouldn't need to be resized at all (see also point 4). 2) How do I rearrange stuff in the Panel? There used to be a gawd-awful start move/end move thing on the panel menu in 4.0 but at least it worked. Now it's gone. You put up the panel controller then you dragdrop your applet. See: http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/07/05/move-your-applets-freely/ Second sentence, Kevin - quote This will be included in KDE 4.1 final. /quote Standard Fedora and Mandriva are still on 4.0.x. Actually it kind of works on 4.0.98. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Friday 18 July 2008 19:05:19 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:07 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: Another thing I miss, going from KDE3 to KDE4, is that KDE3 would save the state of my desktop, so that any apps/konsoles I had up when I logged out would be brought back up when I logged back in. Settings-Advanced Tab-Session Manager-Restore Previous Session (or Manually Saved Session etc.). This is on 4.0.98. I only get to work with my Fedora box spasmodically, so - how do you get 4.0.98? I'm sure I still only have 4.0.5, and I do update. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 16:30 +, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Maybe try the Noscript add-on? I use it routinely. poc i install a few ffox plugins, 2 days ago, do not recall seeing such. is it's name 'noscript' and from mozilla? Yes. See also http://noscript.net/ I have it enabled by default, and selectively allow scripts on trusted pages. You can also allow scripts temporarily i.e. only for the current session. Well worth having IMHO. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 11:04 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: 4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? ?? 1024x768 is landscape, isn't it? This one is easy, just edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root user and add Modes lines There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This is in line with current practice of trying to avoid it wherever possible. That's it's not necessary is demonstrated by the fact the 1440x900 mode works perfectly once I tell KDE to use it. The problem is that KDE forgets. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:12 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 18 July 2008 19:02:27 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:29 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: There seem to be two kinds: those that are just there because, such as Kmix, NM etc., and others that one puts there through the Autostart dialogue. In my case I only added Ktorrent to this last, nevertheless I have Kmix, Pidgin, NM, Amarok, Ksensors, Kpowersave (?) and the keyboard switcher thingy. I'm sure I did add these all at some point in my 3.5 days, but I no longer know where to change them. You should be able to get rid of them from a right-click. I know. I don't want to get rid of them. However I'd still like to know where they are. I'll try to find the answer to that one. 4) Why does my desktop always start up as 1024x768 when I have a landscape LCD? ?? 1024x768 is landscape, isn't it? No, it's 4x3 or a standard square TV monitor. Landscape is 16x9. No, :-) Landscape is the opposite of portrait. 16x9 is widescreen. Quite right, my mistake. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This is in line with current practice of trying to avoid it wherever possible. That's it's not necessary is demonstrated by the fact the 1440x900 mode works perfectly once I tell KDE to use it. The problem is that KDE forgets. I did not know that KDE 4 had Alzheimer :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer's_disease The session does not get saved, that is one problem that you have. But as for the xorg.conf, you decide that you do not like it, then you assume the consequences, the Modes lines fixes the situation, but you do not like the medicine :( In rawhide, sometimes removing xorg.conf is necessary, but here you should not resort to that. poc -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Friday 18 July 2008 19:21:39 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: There seem to be two kinds: those that are just there because, such as Kmix, NM etc., and others that one puts there through the Autostart dialogue. In my case I only added Ktorrent to this last, nevertheless I have Kmix, Pidgin, NM, Amarok, Ksensors, Kpowersave (?) and the keyboard switcher thingy. I'm sure I did add these all at some point in my 3.5 days, but I no longer know where to change them. You should be able to get rid of them from a right-click. I know. I don't want to get rid of them. However I'd still like to know where they are. Ah - we're bordering on the metaphysical, are we? :-) Where does the panel actually live? Can't answer that, sorry :-) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:32 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:14 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 18 July 2008 19:05:19 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:07 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: Another thing I miss, going from KDE3 to KDE4, is that KDE3 would save the state of my desktop, so that any apps/konsoles I had up when I logged out would be brought back up when I logged back in. Settings-Advanced Tab-Session Manager-Restore Previous Session (or Manually Saved Session etc.). This is on 4.0.98. I only get to work with my Fedora box spasmodically, so - how do you get 4.0.98? I'm sure I still only have 4.0.5, and I do update. Get the kde-redhat repo files and enable kde-unstable and kde-unstable-all. Erm, moved to kde-redhat/testing just today. (No need for any -all repos anymore) Yippee :-) Does this mean I should disable the kde-unstable-* stuff? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Friday 18 July 2008 19:32:39 Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:14 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 18 July 2008 19:05:19 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:07 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: Another thing I miss, going from KDE3 to KDE4, is that KDE3 would save the state of my desktop, so that any apps/konsoles I had up when I logged out would be brought back up when I logged back in. Settings-Advanced Tab-Session Manager-Restore Previous Session (or Manually Saved Session etc.). This is on 4.0.98. I only get to work with my Fedora box spasmodically, so - how do you get 4.0.98? I'm sure I still only have 4.0.5, and I do update. Get the kde-redhat repo files and enable kde-unstable and kde-unstable-all. Erm, moved to kde-redhat/testing just today. (No need for any -all repos anymore) Thanks, Rex. With any luck I'll get a chance to try that tomorrow. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Dependency hell again. Or is it still?
Greetings; I'm trying to build and install the most recent openmovieeditor release, and that has forced me to install a load of devel stuffs. OpenMovieEditor needs gmerlin, which I got the tar.bz2 from srcforge for it. But, the build is bailing out with this: checking for OpenGL... yes configure: error: Gmerlin needs OpenGL and GLX Compilation in gmerlin failed I've poked at yumex's search bar now for about half an hour trying to get it to show me some GLX that isn't just the glitz bindings. So what do I install to fix these dependencies? The video card here is an older ATI 9200SE, using the radeon driver, which it has been reasonably happy with. And, FWIW, glxinfo spits out that I do have version 1.2 installed and running. A snippet from that output: GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 8x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.0.3 -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You are sick, twisted and perverted. I like that in a person. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:42 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 18 July 2008 19:21:39 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: There seem to be two kinds: those that are just there because, such as Kmix, NM etc., and others that one puts there through the Autostart dialogue. In my case I only added Ktorrent to this last, nevertheless I have Kmix, Pidgin, NM, Amarok, Ksensors, Kpowersave (?) and the keyboard switcher thingy. I'm sure I did add these all at some point in my 3.5 days, but I no longer know where to change them. You should be able to get rid of them from a right-click. I know. I don't want to get rid of them. However I'd still like to know where they are. Ah - we're bordering on the metaphysical, are we? :-) Where does the panel actually live? Can't answer that, sorry :-) Well it has to be in some config file somewhere, presumably under ~/.kde. I was hoping if I could find it it might be possible to fix the broken Kmix icon problem. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: bind update keeps messing up write-rights
snip you can chmod g+s, g+w /var/named/chroot/var/named to ensure that the journal files are always created as group named Craig I only see the problem occur after I update, not when I restart/shutdown named. And I kinda had the same feeling, about not wanting to bother to try and figure it out, but this has happened so many times before, I got kinda annoyed of it :P And your solution, using chmod, might work if named recreates journal files every restart. But when I restart named, it does not recreate them. It just leaves them as they are (neither does it chown/chmod them for that matter). Maybe RHEL recreates jnl files every restart, but that I don't know :) Anyway, the bug is filed under: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455894 Regards, Gijs Cool, glad that's been bugzilla'd as I've seen it happening for some time now as well but just went ahead and chmod'd and chown'd them as needed to get back to a working state. Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How is one supposed to use the KDE4 desktop ?
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 11:40 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This is in line with current practice of trying to avoid it wherever possible. That's it's not necessary is demonstrated by the fact the 1440x900 mode works perfectly once I tell KDE to use it. The problem is that KDE forgets. I did not know that KDE 4 had Alzheimer :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer's_disease The session does not get saved, that is one problem that you have. No it isn't. You're confusing me with someone else. My session saves perfectly. But as for the xorg.conf, you decide that you do not like it, then you assume the consequences, the Modes lines fixes the situation, but you do not like the medicine :( In rawhide, sometimes removing xorg.conf is necessary, but here you should not resort to that. It may well fix it, but that doesn't mean there isn't a bug in KDE. Let me clarify the exact details: * On first installing KDE4 it fired up in 4x3 mode. * I went to Settings-Display and configured it for 16x9 mode. This took effect immediately and worked fine. * On logging out and in again, it reverts to 4x3 mode (and my saved session windows are stretched). * On invoking Settings-Display the Resize and Rotate Your Display dialogue appears appears, showing 1440x900 (i.e. 16x9) and *without me touching anything* the screen immediately resizes to 16x9. I then have to resize my session windows to fit. i.e. KDE *knows* the screen is 1440x900, it just doesn't set it up correctly until poked. I don't think this is KDE at work, The is kxrandy or what ever it is called. And it is normally not permanent. Use system-config-display to set your resolution as you would like it. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Code that is freely available doesn't need protection as nothing can happen to it other then someone else using and improving it which is a good thing regardless of what else happens to that copy subsequently. I am sure many would disagree with this, The code has to be protected in some way to ensure that someone/or a company cannot claim the code to be theirs and start selling it and not give anything back. This is the good side of the GPL if there is one. Long ago it might not have been completely predictable that many end points of the longest-developed paths of unix development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unix_history-simple.svg) would be open-sourced but it was never out of the question either. Having that big chunk isolated by the GPL and unable to share components is just bad for everyone. Unix is not GPL'd, Linux is or did I miss something here? The components can be shared, you just have to use the GPL and license your work on it. This is like I scratch your back, but you will also scratch mine. Cooperation is the key and interoperability between compnents like you have mentioned. -- Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Remi's F8 firefox2 update breaks evolution-rss
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 18:05 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:57:25 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Remi's latest firefox2 update appears to provide a newer version of gecko-libs, but evolution-rss still requires gecko-libs = 1.8.1.15. As a result, I can't update firefox2, so I can't update devhelp or yelp. Where's the breakage here? Does the Fedora firefox update have the same problem? This one does: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-6491 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454344 Thanks! -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Long ago it might not have been completely predictable that many end points of the longest-developed paths of unix development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unix_history-simple.svg) Thank you for the link, a friend of mine has one in his classroom and it has 1969 as the birth of Unix, and in 1991/1992 the birth of Linux. Linux the kernel and combined with the GNU utilities started the Linux distribution. Another friend of mine also told me that many programs that are now in Linux, were either copied over from BSD/Solaris or ported to linux and were allowed to be shared across without restrictions :) However, we now now that there are GPL police out there and enforcing the GPL on people who modify the freely available code out there, but do not share their modifications :( Is Novell the owner of Unix? Is it SCO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group ? Does the GPL protect Linux users across the globe against malicious lawsuits claiming ownership of programs that are used? These are other questions that affect the status quo and what is done to correct issues. I also wonder if the GPL is a true open source model? Some posts here are pointing that it is not :(, I am still confused because of too much jargon present. http://www.opensource.org/ The GPL is there along with its multiple versions http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical According to the definition of Open Source, http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd The GPL then violates #9 in the definition quote 9. License Must Not Restrict Other Software The license must not place restrictions on other software that is distributed along with the licensed software. For example, the license must not insist that all other programs distributed on the same medium must be open-source software. /quote or does it really violate it? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Script to create desktop icons?
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Timms
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:13 AM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: Re: Script to create desktop icons?
Arch Willingham wrote:
Is there a way to write a script to create desktop icons? Right now,
I have to manually create desktop icons that launchers script
files, executables, etc. I'd love to be able to do that with a script
file. The same holds true for icons that you can put on the top bar
in Gnome via right clicking on a menu item and picking Add this
launcher to the panel.
desktop-file-utils-0.15-1.fc9.i386
eg from an rpm spec:
desktop-file-install --vendor fedora \
--dir %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/applications %{SOURCE2}
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Desktop_files
nautilus shows a .desktop file with the icon that it mentions, and
doesn't show the actual extension.
gedit one to see an example
they can be copied where you want eg desktop
DaveT.
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Re: OT: Apology for Daniel R. Koehler
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:02:36 -0500, Daniel R. Koehler wrote: [...] Apology accepted. I don't often use these Listserv style discussion boards, so it is easy for me to make a mistake in replying to one. [...] Small reminder : you can do yum install pan then make sure you tell pan to use news.gmane.org as one of its news servers. That enables you to read this list (fedora.general in Gmane's designation) in a format much more like a web forum, and even more like usenet -- without the spam. Pan is technically still in beta; but for many years it has been one of the solidest and most useful apps I have. I find it a far easier way to follow any very busy list. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 + NM: wireless options don't come up from hibernate on Thinkpad T61
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 11:10 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: Hi, I boot into a machine on wired ethernet. All is well, the wireless options come up as well as wired (which is connected). However, after I put the laptop on hibernate and wake it up, the wireless options are all gone, and the only option is the wired eth0 (without a reboot). If I go away from my wired network, rebooting is the only option. Does anyone have this problem? Any suggestions as to how I can fix this? I occasionally see that it takes a minute or so for NM to re-scan on resume. If it fails to connect after that time, I've had success with 1. Stopping NM 2. Removing wireless driver 3. Re-installing wireless driver 4. Restarting NM It may also help to create /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules containing SUSPEND_MODULES=your wireless driver Many thanks, Trotter -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Antonio Olivares wrote: Code that is freely available doesn't need protection as nothing can happen to it other then someone else using and improving it which is a good thing regardless of what else happens to that copy subsequently. I am sure many would disagree with this, The code has to be protected in some way to ensure that someone/or a company cannot claim the code to be theirs and start selling it and not give anything back. This is the good side of the GPL if there is one. Long ago it might not have been completely predictable that many end points of the longest-developed paths of unix development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unix_history-simple.svg) would be open-sourced but it was never out of the question either. Having that big chunk isolated by the GPL and unable to share components is just bad for everyone. Unix is not GPL'd, Linux is or did I miss something here? Open source, not GPL'd - they mean different but overlapping things. The *bsd's have always been open sourced but all of the original unix functionality from the ATT underpinnings was re-written. OpenSolaris should include as much of the originally proprietary work as they have been able to release. The components can be shared, you just have to use the GPL and license your work on it. Some people might not choose to restrict their work that way and much work that has already been done can't now be GPL'd. This is like I scratch your back, but you will also scratch mine. But the *bsd's scratch your back without making any demands - and would consider them philosophically and morally wrong. Cooperation is the key and interoperability between compnents like you have mentioned. But the GPL concept of prohibiting redistribution unless requirements on the 'work as a whole' are met makes this impossible in many cases, especially at the kernel level where components like drivers and filesystems become part of the 'whole'. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 12:31 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: Code that is freely available doesn't need protection as nothing can happen to it other then someone else using and improving it which is a good thing regardless of what else happens to that copy subsequently. I am sure many would disagree with this, The code has to be protected in some way to ensure that someone/or a company cannot claim the code to be theirs and start selling it and not give anything back. This is the good side of the GPL if there is one. Sure, there is one, and that's exactly it. The LGPL is one example of a license that protects the code while permitting the creation of derived works with mixed components. The CPL is another. There are several more listed at opensource.org. The MySQL open-source exception to the GPL is another workable alternative (at least for the case where all components are free[1]). Long ago it might not have been completely predictable that many end points of the longest-developed paths of unix development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unix_history-simple.svg) would be open-sourced but it was never out of the question either. Having that big chunk isolated by the GPL and unable to share components is just bad for everyone. Unix is not GPL'd, Linux is or did I miss something here? The components can be shared, you just have to use the GPL and license your work on it. This is like I scratch your back, but you will also scratch mine. Cooperation is the key and interoperability between compnents like you have mentioned. If only we had control of all the pieces and could specify the licenses... When we try to take free software components from other sources with different (even free!) licenses and combine them to create new free works, we are often stymied by the failure of the GPL to permit the distribution of the result. And it is not always possible (and almost never easy) to resolve the conflicts. [1] I think it also could be useful to be able to combine free and proprietary software to create new works. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Open source, not GPL'd - they mean different but overlapping things. The *bsd's have always been open sourced but all of the original unix functionality from the ATT underpinnings was re-written. OpenSolaris should include as much of the originally proprietary work as they have been able to release. Some people might not choose to restrict their work that way and much work that has already been done can't now be GPL'd. But the *bsd's scratch your back without making any demands - and would consider them philosophically and morally wrong. But the GPL concept of prohibiting redistribution unless requirements on the 'work as a whole' are met makes this impossible in many cases, especially at the kernel level where components like drivers and filesystems become part of the 'whole'. -- I like FreeBSD and I see that it has GPL'd code as well as BSD code. The Desktop environments KDE and GNOME are released as GPL code, but they are included in FreeBSD. They do not care that it is released as GPL, they still include it. Now if I get your point right, the GPL requires that since BSD uses KDE which is GPL'd to then release BSD under a GPL license because of its restrictions. I know that the above is not true, but it is an analogy of what the requirements would be. I see many people got mad because of cdrtools had issues with GPL and Jorg released his code under the CDDL, which is a free/opensource license, but it cannot live with the GPL and thus had to produce a GPL'd one and they created the fork which now lives in many Linux distributions: http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ However, some distributions still use cdrtools from Jorg, they did not buy into the idea that the fork was needed and still release cdrtools with their products. Was it the GPL that forced cdrtools removal from many distributions, or what is more personal between Debian developers and Jorg? Is this is an example of how the GPL messes up the freedoms to share and improve code? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Sure, there is one, and that's exactly it. The LGPL is one example of a license that protects the code while permitting the creation of derived works with mixed components. The CPL is another. There are several more listed at opensource.org. The MySQL open-source exception to the GPL is another workable alternative (at least for the case where all components are free[1]). Excellent, OpenOffice is released under the LGPL, with the L becoming Lesser GPL, which does not restrict the sharing of code. Can Linux be released under the LGPL? at least to allow the the mixing and sharing of code that is restricted by the real GPL. If only we had control of all the pieces and could specify the licenses... When we try to take free software components from other sources with different (even free!) licenses and combine them to create new free works, we are often stymied by the failure of the GPL to permit the distribution of the result. And it is not always possible (and almost never easy) to resolve the conflicts. [1] I think it also could be useful to be able to combine free and proprietary software to create new works. -- http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs I agree with [1] here. I believe Les agrees with you here as well :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Antonio Olivares wrote: Thank you for the link, a friend of mine has one in his classroom and it has 1969 as the birth of Unix, and in 1991/1992 the birth of Linux. Linux the kernel and combined with the GNU utilities started the Linux distribution. Another friend of mine also told me that many programs that are now in Linux, were either copied over from BSD/Solaris or ported to linux and were allowed to be shared across without restrictions :) However, we now now that there are GPL police out there and enforcing the GPL on people who modify the freely available code out there, but do not share their modifications :( Is Novell the owner of Unix? Maybe.. They bought the rights in the mid-90's from the company spun off from ATT to own it. It was called unixware at that point but was basically SysVr4.2. Is it SCO Then they sold it to SCO, although it was a different company then - subsequently portions were acquired by Caldera (who also bought DRDOS and sued Microsoft over it) which later renamed itself to SCO. The original SCO also had some other unix-related flavors but they were mostly obsolete by then (the only advantage earlier was some esoteric ISA-era PC device and print drivers). What was actually sold is under dispute. SCO claims it owns the copyright and associated licensing. Novell claims it was just a licensing/resale arrangement - and this is still in appeals courts. The first decision went to Novell, but that's been thrown out. I'm not sure if anyone has gotten around to wondering how this affects OpenSolaris parts of which Sun licensed from SCO and believes they have the right to release. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group ? Does the GPL protect Linux users across the globe against malicious lawsuits claiming ownership of programs that are used? No, since if there is prior copyright ownership, the GPL license can't apply. But it is unlikely that anyone would attempt to recover any damages from a small end user - or succeed if they tried. And so far none of SCO's claims of copied code have been upheld and there isn't much reason to expect that they will. These are other questions that affect the status quo and what is done to correct issues. I also wonder if the GPL is a true open source model? Some posts here are pointing that it is not :(, I am still confused because of too much jargon present. http://www.opensource.org/ You can't take these arguments too seriously. The whole term 'Open Source' was developed in reaction to the overzealous GPL and the problems it poses when mixing with commercial/proprietary components - or even less restricted open code. According to the definition of Open Source, http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd The GPL then violates #9 in the definition quote 9. License Must Not Restrict Other Software The license must not place restrictions on other software that is distributed along with the licensed software. For example, the license must not insist that all other programs distributed on the same medium must be open-source software. /quote or does it really violate it? From the GPL perspective, it doesn't place restrictions on the other software, only on the covered parts. That is, it can't stop you from redistributing the other components but you can't include a GPL'd part if the combination makes a 'work as a whole' that can't be completely GPL'd. In practice, the effect is the same on a potential recipient, but technically they can claim they aren't restricting the other parts. The GPL would be more clear if it simply stated that you cannot redistribute at all except under strictly limited conditions. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Printing with Canon Pixma iP1800 on Fedora Core 7
Valentina M wrote: Hi, I have a printer Canon Pixma iP1800 and I want to print on Linux. I installed the following packages: #yum localinstall –nogpgcheck cnijfilter-common-2.70-1.i386.rpm http://www.canon.com.au/products/printers/colour_bj_printers/ip1800_support.aspx # yum localinstall –nogpgcheck cnijfilter-ip1800series-2.70-1.i386.rpm http://www.canon.com.au/products/printers/colour_bj_printers/ip1800_support.aspx They worked, the printer seems to be recognized (Im not sure) but it won't print. When I send work to print Fedora doesnt report any problem but the printer doesnt make a thing. Does any1 know how I can fix that? If that is so, plz I would like to get some instructions, since I'm new on Linux. Thank u, Valentina What does lpstat -t say? kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
