Re: kdesvn and authentification

2008-11-18 Thread Adel ESSAFI
Thanks

2008/11/13 Kevin Kofler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Adel ESSAFI  imag.fr> writes:
> > how can I make authentification with kdesvn?
>
> The best solution is to use SSH key authentication:
> * Make sure you have a key for your local machine generated (with
> ssh-keygen).
>  There should be either ~/.ssh/id_rsa and ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub or
> ~/.ssh/id_dsa
>  and ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub files (RSA is recommended).
> * Upload your public key to the repository machine:
>  - If you have direct SSH/SFTP access, copy the contents of your
>~/.ssh/id_*.pub file to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine (if
> the
>file does not exist yet, you have to create it), and make sure all of
> ~/.ssh
>is readable only by you (chmod -R go-rwx ~/.ssh).
>  - If there's a web interface to upload SSH keys, upload your
> ~/.ssh/id_*.pub
>file there.
>  WARNING: In both cases, make sure you upload the contents of the PUBLIC
> key
>   (i.e. the one with the .pub extension). The private key should
> NEVER
>   leave your machine.
> * Use svn+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/foo/ as your URL (where username
> is
>  your account name on the repository server, svn.example.com is the server
>  itself and foo is the path to your module).
>
>Kevin Kofler
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ssh+background process in script

2008-11-18 Thread hari krishna angadi
Hi,



I am porting some test codes from Fedora core 2 to Fedora core 8.it
works fine in FC2(2.6.5-1.358) but problem in FC8(2.6.23.1-42.fc8).



Pgm.c

-

#include

 int main void(int) 

{

fprintf(stderr,"hello world\n",);

}



$ gcc -o Pgm Pgm.c



$ vim myscript.sh

./Pgm &



$ /usr/bin/ssh -x -n -o BatchMode=yes 127.0.0.1 cd /home/tom/Test_Dir/ '&&' 
./myscript.sh 



If i run this command hello world is not printed.

If i run this same in FC2 hello world in printed.



Whether there is solution to this or it is a bug of FC8?



--

Below solutions are correct?.





Solution 1:

--

If i do these changes i.e if i re-direct to stdout and run in background.



$ vim myscript.sh

./Pgm  2>&1 &



$ /usr/bin/ssh -x -n -o BatchMode=yes 127.0.0.1 cd /home/tom/Test_Dir/ '&&' 
./myscript.sh 



If i run this command it works fine.



Solution 2:

--

 vim myscript.sh

./Pgm  &/dev/null &



$ /usr/bin/ssh -x -n -o BatchMode=yes 127.0.0.1 cd /home/tom/Test_Dir/ '&&' 
./myscript.sh 





Regards,

Hari Krishna


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F10-Beta - XF86VidModeQueryExtension has disappeared

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
Something has changed recently and I'm not sure what package to file a bug
against.

I use dosemu (http://www.dosemu.org) and it worked fine on my F10-beta laptop a
few days ago.

Today I tried to run it and got this error:

/usr/bin/xdosemu: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/dosemu/libplugin_X.so:
undefined symbol: XF86VidModeQueryExtension 

XF86VidModeQueryExtension appears to be provided by libXxf86vm, but yum.log
doesn't show any recent updates to that package.

So.. what actually broke here?

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Re: [sudo-users] How to disable ( deny ) user to change the password of root

2008-11-18 Thread edwardspl
Dear All,

For /usr/bin/upasswd :

#!/bin/sh

# Validate that a username was given as an argument
[ -n "$1" ] || {
echo "Use: upasswd " >&2
exit 64
}

# Validate that the username wasn't "root"
[ "$1" != "root" ] || {
echo "Can't set the root user's password" >&2
exit 77
}

# Use -- to make sure that the "username" given wasn't just
# a switch that passwd would interpret.
# THIS ONLY WORKS ON GNU SYSTEMS.
passwd -- "$1"

For visudo :
SYSADM MH = (ALL) /usr/bin/upasswd

Notice * without the option after "/usr/bin/upasswd"...

So, the test result is okay now :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ sudo upasswd
Use: upasswd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ sudo upasswd root
Can't set the root user's password
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ sudo upasswd edward
Changing password for user edward.
New UNIX password:

Many thanks for your help !

* This procedure is good for working on FC9...

Edward.

Russell Van Tassell wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 05:18:10PM -0800, Stephen Carville wrote:
>  
>
>>>[Preventing root passwd change using sudo]
>>>  
>>>
>>In truth, Gordon Messmer's suggestion is probably more secure.  The only 
>>change I'd make would be to embed the sudo command in the script.  Something 
>>like.
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>The give sudo permissions something like:
>>
>>SYSADM  MH = (ALL) /usr/bin/passwd -- [A-z0-1]*
>>
>>
>
>Just "devil's advocate," caveat emptor, buyer beware and all that jazz...
>
>This still doesn't prevent people from doing things such as:
>
>/usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/sh /usr/bin/passwd
>
>...or other similar "nasty" things (the list is quite huge).  This also
>presumes, of course, that the "typical" sudoers file allows more than it
>prevents/excludes.
>
>
>  
>
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recovery to new drive, spamassassin dependencies not available?

2008-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings;

Trying to recover my F8 system, and need spamassassin to stop the flood of 
erection pills.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install spamassassin
updates-newkey| 2.3 kB  
   
00:00
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package spamassassin.i386 0:3.2.5-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Archive::Tar) >= 1.23 for package: 
spamassassin
--> Processing Dependency: perl(IO::Zlib) >= 1.04 for package: spamassassin
--> Processing Dependency: perl(IO::Socket::INET6) for package: spamassassin
--> Processing Dependency: perl(IO::Socket::SSL) for package: spamassassin
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Net::DNS) for package: spamassassin
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Archive::Tar) for package: spamassassin
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Digest::SHA1) for package: spamassassin
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(IO::Socket::INET6) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(Net::DNS) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(Archive::Tar) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(Digest::SHA1) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(Archive::Tar) >= 1.23 is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(IO::Zlib) >= 1.04 is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(IO::Socket::SSL) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(IO::Zlib) >= 1.04 is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Digest::SHA1) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Archive::Tar) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Archive::Tar) >= 1.23 is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(Net::DNS) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(IO::Socket::INET6) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(IO::Socket::SSL) is needed by package 
spamassassin-3.2.5-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)

These packages do not seem to be available from updates-newkey.  Where might 
they be found, or, where are they on my old drive?

Thanks folks.

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:11:57 -0600
Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > You can always try to play those streams with mplayer outside of FF. I
> > did, and it works that way, but not inside FF (it used to). So it's
> > not likely to be a codec problem, at least in my case.
> 
> What commandline did you use?

Well, using the commandline that you sent me:

mplayer http://scfire-ntc-aa02.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1040

I can play the music.  That kind of eliminates codec problems and so on.
(Though I'd still like to know where you found that link on the 977music.com
page -- I just looked and I can't find it at all.)

However, trying to play music from that page has gone from bad to worse.  Now
when I try to click on one of the links from the main page
(http://www.977music.com) all I get see in my Firefox window is a gray screen
that says "stopped" at the bottom.  Clicking to a different Firefox tab and
back to the tab with the 977music on it still shows me the screen on the other
tab.  In other words, it's not writing anything to that screen at all.  It's
not frozen -- I can still click "back" and go back to the main 977music
homepage.

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Re: The number pad doesn't work on my laptop...

2008-11-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Linuxguy123 wrote:
> Its an HP HDX9494.
> 
> I think it worked about a month ago.  Any ideas ?

Try running xev from a command-line, then pushing the keys.  That will
tell you if the keypresses are being detected at all.  If they are, you
can map them using xmodmap.

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Jackd Problems -- alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1227061150613.504 msecs

2008-11-18 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
In the past I've never had any problems running jackd.  Now I'm getting
a very large number of messages reading:
 alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1227061150613.504 msecs
I'm running F9 on an x86_64 system with all updates installed.
Pulseaudio is not running.  Jackd is started via qjackctl.  No past
problems with audio beyond the usual conflicts between pulseaudio and
firefox.

Questions:
(1) What exactly does this message mean?  An "xrun" is a buffer under-
or over-run -- but what does the time interval represent?

(2) Whatever the time interval means, it looks rather large.
1227061150613.504 msec is many days (or maybe years if msec means
millisec and not microsec)  This looks like a misconfiguration of some
kind or a missing component.  Any idea what it might be?

Here is the start of the qjackctl log of the session.

18:53:38.317 Patchbay deactivated.
18:53:38.364 Statistics reset.
18:53:38.566 ALSA connection graph change.
18:53:38.752 ALSA connection change.
18:53:41.050 Startup script...
18:53:41.050 artsshell -q terminate
18:53:42.247 Startup script terminated with exit status=256.
18:53:42.261 JACK is starting...
18:53:42.262 /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2
18:53:42.267 JACK was started with PID=3423.
jackd 0.109.2
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK compiled with System V SHM support. 
loading driver ..
apparent rate = 48000
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|
32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2
periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for capture 
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 16bit little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
 alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1227061150613.504 msecs
 alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1227061150613.504 msecs
 alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1227061150613.504 msecs
 alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1227061150613.504 msecs
...

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 18:59 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 08:33 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
> >> No, the new Firefox version was installed with last Thursdays Fedora 
> >> upgrades.
> > 
> > I update my system (F10-pre) every day and haven't seen it yet.
> > 
> Sounds like a slow update on the mirror, I got mine at the last update, about 
> an 
> hour ago.

It just came in. Hasn't crashed yet ...

poc

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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-18 Thread Nifty Fedora Mitch
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:42:45PM +, g wrote:
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Jerry Feldman wrote:
> 
> > Giving root ownership to a script IMHO is a security issue.
> 
> this is true. i have always wondered why nothing has ever been coded to check
> 'chown' to insure that such is only done by those who have proper authority.
> 
> > Actually, the backup 
> > script probably should have been run as root via a root crontab in the 
> > first place.
> 
> many times, backups need be run by a 'user', but they should only be allowed
> to back up their own files.
> 
> yet there is a big hole in that 'user' can backup a lot of 'system' files.
> another problem and potential breach of security. i hope that such as this
> would be covered by selinux, but i do not believe it has.

Backing up those (system) files that a user can just read in the normal
set of events is not a security issue.   The serious risk is on the
restore side of things.   For example /etc/passwd needs to be +read
for the world by contrast /etc/shadow cannot be read.

Interpreted programs -- bash, perl, python must be +read!   Note that 
the run time load/linker must read information from binary objects.
In fact it must do a bit of editing -- see also prelink.
It might be possible to add attributes to each section of an object
(see objdump) such that specific read write bits and security 
attributes exist and are enforced per section (I do not recommend such
an RFE). 

There may be an issue if software is purchased and unauthorized copies leave
the building but that is a different component of security.
 

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:59:46 -0800
Agile Aspect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Check the firmware on the router - it may need update.

Already done.  According to the built-in doodad on the router's setup page,
it's the latest available version.

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Re: [sudo-users] How to disable ( deny ) user to change the password of root

2008-11-18 Thread edwardspl
Gordon Messmer wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> BUT there is another problem of it ( I think it is a bug of sudo ).
>>
>> When you enter "sudo passwd" without the option (eg:userid):
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd
>> Changing password for user root.
>> New UNIX password:
>
>
> That's not a bug. "sudo" doesn't know what you're trying to do, only
> whether or not your commands match the patterns in its configuration
> files. They do, so sudo allows the access.
>
>> OH...the user manager who can change root password ?
>>
>> So, is there any solution for this case of problem ?
>
>
> Yes, there is. Don't let users execute any of those commands directly.
> Write shell scripts that validate the commands that you want them to
> execute, and only allow users to execute those with sudo. For example:
>
> passwd-wrapper:
> #!/bin/sh
>
> # Validate that a username was given as an argument
> [ -n "$1" ] || {
> echo "Use: passwd-wrapper " >&2
> exit 64
> }
>
> # Validate that the username wasn't "root"
> [ "$1" != "root" ] || {
> echo "Can't set the root user's password" >&2
> exit 77
> }
>
> # Use -- to make sure that the "username" given wasn't just
> # a switch that passwd would interpret.
> # THIS ONLY WORKS ON GNU SYSTEMS.
> passwd -- "$1"
>
Hello,

Sorry...
After create the shell script, then how to use it by sudo ?

Thanks !

Edward.

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Re: Startup script for proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko

>
>
> Is there a sample script ( put it in the dir of /etc/xinetd.d ) for
> starting up the proftpd on FC9 System ?
> Due to install the package by using tarball...
>
If you are insisting on using the tarball install of applications then
you should be getting your info from the site of application. 

But, the answer to your question is "yes".  When you install by rpm
there is a file placed in xinetd.d as well as init.d.

You can get these files yourself, if you are willing to do the work. 
All you have to do is download the proftpd rpm and use rpm2cpio and pipe
the output to cpio and extract the files.



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Re: [sudo-users] How to disable ( deny ) user to change the password of root

2008-11-18 Thread edwardspl
Stephen Carville wrote:

>On Monday 17 November 2008 20:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>  
>
>>Just test as the following rule is successfuly:
>>
>>SYSADMMH = (ALL)USER,NOROOT
>>BUT there is another problem of it ( I think it is a bug of sudo ).
>>
>>When you enter "sudo passwd" without the option (eg:userid):
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd
>>Changing password for user root.
>>New UNIX password:
>>
>>OH...the user manager who can change root password ?
>>
>>So, is there any solution for this case of problem ?
>>
>>
>
>Require a username be entered for passwd.
>
>USER   /usr/bin/passwd [A-z0-1]
>NOROOT !/usr/bin/passwd root
>
>SYSADM  MH=(ALL)   USER,NOROOT
>
Hello,

Just test the rules, BUT the result is fail:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd
[sudo] password for manager:
Sorry, user manager is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/passwd' as root
on edsvr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd root
[sudo] password for manager:
Sorry, user manager is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/passwd root' as
root on edsvr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd edward
[sudo] password for manager:
Sorry, user manager is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/passwd edward'
as root on edsvr.

So, how can we disable any user for changing the root password ?

Thanks !

Edward.
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Startup script for proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread edwardspl

Dear All,

Is there a sample script ( put it in the dir of /etc/xinetd.d ) for 
starting up the proftpd on FC9 System ?

Due to install the package by using tarball...

Many thanks !

Edward.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-18 Thread Agile Aspect

Frank Cox wrote:

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:48:32 -0600
Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I'm pretty sure it's something to do with higher transfer speed that you get
with a local file copy versus something that's coming in over the internet.
The Acer is apparently sending something unexpected to the router that causes
the wireless functions of the router to lock up.  The wired connections to the
router continue to work normally.

The router is a "Belkin Wireless G".

I wonder if there is some kind of a "stop for a moment because I'm overloaded"
command that the Acer is sending to the router, and forgetting to tell the
router to start again afterward.

I just filed this here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469994



I was just setting up a Trendnet wireless G router for another purpose and
decided to take advantage of the opportunity to put the Acer Aspire One on it
and copy some large files.

Doing exactly the same thing in exactly the same way (with the same files)
through the Trendnet router works perfectly.  There is no lockup.

Therefore, the problem lies somewhere in the interaction of the Acer Aspire One
and the Belkin Wireless G router.

  

Check the firmware on the router - it may need update.



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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Bill Davidsen

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 08:33 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
No, the new Firefox version was installed with last Thursdays Fedora 
upgrades.


I update my system (F10-pre) every day and haven't seen it yet.

Sounds like a slow update on the mirror, I got mine at the last update, about an 
hour ago.


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Re: Need to control loading of usb-storage

2008-11-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Jean Francois Martinez wrote:
> My problem is:  
> 
> I need to find a way to tell Linux not to load the usb-storage module
> when a certain peripheral, whose signature I know, is inserted.  For
> now the only way I have found is putting usb-storage in the blacklist
> but this means module doesn't load when I plug my usb key or my external
> hard drive so I look for something finer grained
> 
> Details
> 
> I own a cell phones who has USB connector and  can be accessed either as
> an MTP device or as a mass storage one but the latter works if, and only
> if, it has an additional memory card inserted (presently I have none).
> The phone prompts for the mode at connect time but no matter what I
> select the usb-storage loads itself, unsuccessfully tries to put the
> phone in storage mode (normal behavior since the phone has no external
> memory card) and after a minute or two, gives up, unloads itself and
> removes the peripheral from the list of present USB devices.  In other
> words even after the usb-storage module has unloaded I cannot use the
> phone in mtp mode.
> 
> Regards
> 
> JFM
> 
Take a look at HAL - it can do fine control of what is mounted. (But
don't ask me to write it for you - I am not that good yet.) I guess
you could write a udev rule that prevents the SCSI devices needed by
HAL to mount the drive. This rule would have to run before
40-redhat.rules.

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Re: No Shutdown Service in Init 1

2008-11-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Steve West wrote:
> When I run my service in init 1 there is no shutdown response to the
> power off button. What service handles the shutdown of the power off
> switch? ACPID?
>  
> Steve
> 
Yes, you need acpid running for the power switch to work. It does
not run during run level 1 by default. Run level 1 is normally
reserved for fixing problems on the system, as it outs it in the
single user mode, with root as the user. Only the minimum services
necessary are started.

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 16:39 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:07:11PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 
> > > I have read that html 5 will make flash unnecessary. 
> > > 
> > > Is there any truth to that assertion?
> > 
> > SVG certainly makes most of it unneccessary already.
> 
> What is SVG?

Scalable Vector Graphics.

poc

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:51 +0100
Andras Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can always try to play those streams with mplayer outside of FF. I
> did, and it works that way, but not inside FF (it used to). So it's
> not likely to be a codec problem, at least in my case.

What commandline did you use?

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Andras Simon
On 11/18/08, Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't see how anything could be missing.  These two F9 computers were
> updated
> from F8 to F9 using preupgrade, and everything (including codecs) stayed
> just as they were.

You can always try to play those streams with mplayer outside of FF. I
did, and it works that way, but not inside FF (it used to). So it's
not likely to be a codec problem, at least in my case.

Andras

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?
From: Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 


Date: 11/18/2008 03:39 PM


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:07:11PM +, Alan Cox wrote:

SVG certainly makes most of it unneccessary already.


What is SVG?

Thanks.




Alan, this is why SVG is not as popular as it should be.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:37:37 -0800
Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I vaguely remember reading something that suggested that
> the problem lied with the Belkin router itself.

I have two laptops.  One Acer Aspire One and one "no-name" Intel.

If I put both of them online wirelessly at the same time and then attempt to
copy a large file from my desktop computer to the Intel using scp, everything
works perfectly.

If I then attempt to copy the same large file from my desktop to the Acer, the
transfer stops in the middle, and the router and the Intel's wireless
capabilities both lock up.

I can log into the router and restart it from my desktop's wired connection.
When the router finishes resetting the Acer jumps back online automatically
with no further action required on my part.

The Intel laptop won't go back online until I reboot it.

Somehow the Acer is locking up everything (the router and the other
computer) except itself.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-18 Thread Aldo Foot
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Therefore, the problem lies somewhere in the interaction of the Acer Aspire 
> One
> and the Belkin Wireless G router.

I vaguely remember reading something that suggested that
the problem lied with the Belkin router itself.

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Re: privoxy logfile on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:52:13 -0600 (CST)
Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, actually, there is. After I first installed privoxy, I got errors
> saying privoxy could not access the log file. I checked the file
> permissions and found root:root. Since privoxy runs as privoxy, I
> changed the ownership of the logfile to privoxy. Then after a very
> short interval I started getting a different privoxy error slightly farther
> along the boot sequence and investigating, found a new problem with selinux,
> at which point I stopped trying to figure out what was wrong.

You might want to add your experience to this:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472141

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:39:27 -0430
"Patrick O'Callaghan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > No, the new Firefox version was installed with last Thursdays Fedora 
> > upgrades.
> 
> I update my system (F10-pre) every day and haven't seen it yet.

I currently have FF 3.0.4 on my F9 computers so it must have arrived with the
regular upgrades.

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:57:25 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It must be something missing, Frank.  On this Mandriva laptop running 
> 2009+KDE4 that site plays without a problem.  
> 
> Could it be a codec issue?  On the F10 laptop I got a requirement for 
> addition 
> plugin - mmsh protocol source.  Since I only have fedora repos at the moment 
> it didn't find anything.

I don't see how anything could be missing.  These two F9 computers were updated
from F8 to F9 using preupgrade, and everything (including codecs) stayed
just as they were.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:48:32 -0600
Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm pretty sure it's something to do with higher transfer speed that you get
> with a local file copy versus something that's coming in over the internet.
> The Acer is apparently sending something unexpected to the router that causes
> the wireless functions of the router to lock up.  The wired connections to the
> router continue to work normally.
> 
> The router is a "Belkin Wireless G".
> 
> I wonder if there is some kind of a "stop for a moment because I'm overloaded"
> command that the Acer is sending to the router, and forgetting to tell the
> router to start again afterward.
> 
> I just filed this here:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469994

I was just setting up a Trendnet wireless G router for another purpose and
decided to take advantage of the opportunity to put the Acer Aspire One on it
and copy some large files.

Doing exactly the same thing in exactly the same way (with the same files)
through the Trendnet router works perfectly.  There is no lockup.

Therefore, the problem lies somewhere in the interaction of the Acer Aspire One
and the Belkin Wireless G router.

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Re: ATI with Fedora 10

2008-11-18 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

David Hlác(ik wrote:

Hello guys,

when i do yum install kmod-fglrx , this is what i get (bottom). SO, is
this a working configuration? Will ATI finally works in Fedora 10
Rawhide?

Thanks in advance!

David


 Package   Arch   Version   Repository Size

Installing:
 kmod-fglrxi686   8.543-0.3.8.11beta.fc10.6 rpmfusion-nonfree  19 k
Installing for dependencies:
 compat-libstdc++-33   i386   3.2.3-64  fedora224 k
 kerneli686   2.6.27.5-109.fc10 updates19 M
 kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.5-109.fc10.i686
   i686   8.543-0.3.8.11beta.fc10.6 rpmfusion-nonfree 673 k
 livna-config-display  noarch 0.0.22-1.fc10 rpmfusion-nonfree  65 k
 rhpxl i386   1.9-3.fc10fedora 97 k
 system-config-display noarch 1.1.1-1.fc10  fedora193 k
 xorg-x11-drv-fglrxi386   8.543-0.4.8.11beta.fc10   rpmfusion-nonfree  13 M
 xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-libs
   i386   8.543-0.4.8.11beta.fc10   rpmfusion-nonfree 5.4 M


It looks to me like you ar not yet running the latest kernel, so it is 
included in your updates.  Not sure where the compat-libstdc++-33 lib is 
needed, but it could be fglrx, since its a binary module with a wide 
range of compatibility.  The rest look about right, and match what I 
have on my F9 system (x86-64 vs i386/i686 of course!)


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Re: privoxy logfile on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 01:17:54PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:18:06 -0500
> Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > So I now have two computers with F9 and one with F10 and none of them have
> > > privoxy doing any logging.  Why?
> > 
> > I have the same problem on F9. Selunix policies are preventing privoxy's
> > access to the log file. There are messages about this in my sytem log
> > file.  I don't know enough about Selunix to attempt a solution.
> 
> There has to be more to it than that.  I have selinux disabled.

Well, actually, there is. After I first installed privoxy, I got errors
saying privoxy could not access the log file. I checked the file
permissions and found root:root. Since privoxy runs as privoxy, I
changed the ownership of the logfile to privoxy. Then after a very
short interval I started getting a different privoxy error slightly farther
along the boot sequence and investigating, found a new problem with selinux,
at which point I stopped trying to figure out what was wrong.

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:07:11PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > I have read that html 5 will make flash unnecessary. 
> > 
> > Is there any truth to that assertion?
> 
> SVG certainly makes most of it unneccessary already.

What is SVG?

Thanks.

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ATI with Fedora 10

2008-11-18 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys,

when i do yum install kmod-fglrx , this is what i get (bottom). SO, is
this a working configuration? Will ATI finally works in Fedora 10
Rawhide?

Thanks in advance!

David


 Package   Arch   Version   Repository Size

Installing:
 kmod-fglrxi686   8.543-0.3.8.11beta.fc10.6 rpmfusion-nonfree  19 k
Installing for dependencies:
 compat-libstdc++-33   i386   3.2.3-64  fedora224 k
 kerneli686   2.6.27.5-109.fc10 updates19 M
 kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.5-109.fc10.i686
   i686   8.543-0.3.8.11beta.fc10.6 rpmfusion-nonfree 673 k
 livna-config-display  noarch 0.0.22-1.fc10 rpmfusion-nonfree  65 k
 rhpxl i386   1.9-3.fc10fedora 97 k
 system-config-display noarch 1.1.1-1.fc10  fedora193 k
 xorg-x11-drv-fglrxi386   8.543-0.4.8.11beta.fc10   rpmfusion-nonfree  13 M
 xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-libs
   i386   8.543-0.4.8.11beta.fc10   rpmfusion-nonfree 5.4 M

Transaction Summary

Install  9 Package(s)
Update   0 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)

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Re: "Kernel Bug Diagnostic Information Sent" when I try to print

2008-11-18 Thread Fred Silsbee



--- On Tue, 11/18/08, Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: "Kernel Bug Diagnostic Information Sent" when I try to print
> To: "Fedora List" 
> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 9:10 PM
> Fedora 9. I have an hp1320 Postscript printer hooked up to a
> lowly parallel port. When I go to print something, a message
> appears on my screen too fast to fully read (See subject
> line) and then fades away. Then I get a lot of messages in
> syslog. The CPU stays pegged at 100% until I lprm the job.
> 
> I took a sample to show below. It seems that a number of
> people have had the same problem but I have not seen any
> solution (at least in English). When I just tried to print
> the CUPS test page, I got the same error but the page did
> successfully print.
> 
> I see no package that needs to be updated. Can someone
> help? Please? :-(
> 
> Nov 18 15:30:06 saturn parport0: prnt/backend/hp.c 496:
> unable to connect hpssd socket 2207: Connection refused
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: sysctl table check failed:
> /dev/parport/parport0/devices/ppdev0/timeslice  Sysctl
> already exists
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: Pid: 26410, comm: hpijs
> Tainted: P 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 #1
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [printk+15/20] ?
> printk+0xf/0x14
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [set_fail+51/64]
> set_fail+0x33/0x40
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [sysctl_check_table+1033/1093]
> sysctl_check_table+0x409/0x445
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093]
> sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093]
> sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093]
> sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093]
> sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093]
> sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [__register_sysctl_paths+167/246]
> __register_sysctl_paths+0xa7/0xf6
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [__dentry_open+305/508] ?
> __dentry_open+0x131/0x1fc
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [register_sysctl_paths+30/32]
> register_sysctl_paths+0x1e/0x20
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: 
> [register_sysctl_table+15/17] register_sysctl_table+0xf/0x11
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  []
> parport_device_proc_register+0xa9/0xc7 [parport]
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  []
> parport_register_device+0x1bb/0x1e5 [parport]
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  []
> pp_ioctl+0x12b/0x6ac [ppdev]
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [] ?
> pp_irq+0x0/0x43 [ppdev]
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [vfs_ioctl+80/105]
> vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x69
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [do_vfs_ioctl+569/588]
> do_vfs_ioctl+0x239/0x24c
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sys_ioctl+64/91]
> sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5b
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [syscall_call+7/11]
> syscall_call+0x7/0xb
> Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  ===
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316:
> ecp_write_data host transfer recovery cnt=1
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316:
> ecp_write_data host transfer recovery cnt=2
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316:
> ecp_write_data host transfer recovery cnt=3
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316:
> ecp_write_data host transfer recovery cnt=4
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 313:
> ecp_write_data transfer stalled
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 470: unable
> to write MlcForwardData: Connection refused
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 463: unable
> to write MlcForwardData header: Connection refused
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 145:
> unexpected MLCError: cmd=7f, result=d
> Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/musb.c 1580:
> invalid MlcCredit from peripheral, trying miser
> Nov 18 15:30:13 saturn kerneloops: Submitted 1 kernel
> oopses to www.kerneloops.org
> Nov 18 15:30:38 saturn kernel: [FIAIF_MARTIAN]:IN= OUT=eth0
> SRC=207.172.210.41 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=225 TOS=0x00
> PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=631 DPT=631 LEN=205
> Nov 18 15:30:44 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 238: unable
> to read MlcReverseReply header: Connection refused
> bytesRead=0
> 
> 
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> Stranger things have  .0.
> happened but none stranger than this. Does your
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> individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical
> question?
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Everytime I print, a kernel diagnostic is sent (so it says in a little popup 
message at the lower right)

This has need so since I installed F9




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Re: F8 - xine-lib-extras fails with missing dependency

2008-11-18 Thread Aldo Foot
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't truncate Yum output too much.
> Don't disable the base "fedora.repo".

I had fedora.repo disbled and had to re-enable it.
I was able to install libcaca-0.99-0.3.beta11.fc8.i386
Thanks for the responses.

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Re: Lost audio on headphones (F9)

2008-11-18 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 15:26 -0200, Andre Costa wrote:
> my desktop computer has one of those front headphones connectors, and
> it always worked (always = since Fedora8), playing the same audio that
> goes to the front speakers. I tried it today and it doesn't work
> anymore, 

Open up the volume controls and see if there's a separate volume control
just for the headphones.  You might have to wallow through the
preferences to add more controls.

> my guess is that some of the recent updates might have changed
> something on audio config 

You might look through /var/log/yum.log to see what's been recently
updated, and see if they're a likely cause.

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No Shutdown Service in Init 1

2008-11-18 Thread Steve West
When I run my service in init 1 there is no shutdown response to the power off 
button. What service handles the shutdown of the power off switch? ACPID?

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"Kernel Bug Diagnostic Information Sent" when I try to print

2008-11-18 Thread Steven W. Orr
Fedora 9. I have an hp1320 Postscript printer hooked up to a lowly 
parallel port. When I go to print something, a message appears on my 
screen too fast to fully read (See subject line) and then fades away. Then 
I get a lot of messages in syslog. The CPU stays pegged at 100% until I 
lprm the job.


I took a sample to show below. It seems that a number of people have had 
the same problem but I have not seen any solution (at least in English). 
When I just tried to print the CUPS test page, I got the same error but 
the page did successfully print.


I see no package that needs to be updated. Can someone help? Please? :-(

Nov 18 15:30:06 saturn parport0: prnt/backend/hp.c 496: unable to connect 
hpssd socket 2207: Connection refused
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: sysctl table check failed: 
/dev/parport/parport0/devices/ppdev0/timeslice  Sysctl already exists
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel: Pid: 26410, comm: hpijs Tainted: P 
2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 #1

Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [printk+15/20] ? printk+0xf/0x14
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [set_fail+51/64] set_fail+0x33/0x40
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sysctl_check_table+1033/1093] 
sysctl_check_table+0x409/0x445
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093] 
sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093] 
sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093] 
sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093] 
sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sysctl_check_table+1055/1093] 
sysctl_check_table+0x41f/0x445
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [__register_sysctl_paths+167/246] 
__register_sysctl_paths+0xa7/0xf6
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [__dentry_open+305/508] ? 
__dentry_open+0x131/0x1fc
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [register_sysctl_paths+30/32] 
register_sysctl_paths+0x1e/0x20
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [register_sysctl_table+15/17] 
register_sysctl_table+0xf/0x11
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [] 
parport_device_proc_register+0xa9/0xc7 [parport]
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [] 
parport_register_device+0x1bb/0x1e5 [parport]

Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [] pp_ioctl+0x12b/0x6ac [ppdev]
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [] ? pp_irq+0x0/0x43 [ppdev]
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [vfs_ioctl+80/105] vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x69
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [do_vfs_ioctl+569/588] 
do_vfs_ioctl+0x239/0x24c

Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [sys_ioctl+64/91] sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5b
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  [syscall_call+7/11] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Nov 18 15:30:08 saturn kernel:  ===
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316: ecp_write_data host 
transfer recovery cnt=1
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316: ecp_write_data host 
transfer recovery cnt=2
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316: ecp_write_data host 
transfer recovery cnt=3
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 316: ecp_write_data host 
transfer recovery cnt=4
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/pp.c 313: ecp_write_data 
transfer stalled
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 470: unable to write 
MlcForwardData: Connection refused
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 463: unable to write 
MlcForwardData header: Connection refused
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 145: unexpected MLCError: 
cmd=7f, result=d
Nov 18 15:30:10 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/musb.c 1580: invalid MlcCredit 
from peripheral, trying miser
Nov 18 15:30:13 saturn kerneloops: Submitted 1 kernel oopses to 
www.kerneloops.org
Nov 18 15:30:38 saturn kernel: [FIAIF_MARTIAN]:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=207.172.210.41 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=225 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 
ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=631 DPT=631 LEN=205
Nov 18 15:30:44 saturn parport0: io/hpmud/mlc.c 238: unable to read 
MlcReverseReply header: Connection refused bytesRead=0



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Re: Kernel Timeslice

2008-11-18 Thread Bill Davidsen

Steve West wrote:

>> > Steve West wrote:
>> >> I am running Fedora 9 x86 64 bit. What is the kernel timetick per
>> >> thread? How many threads per second does the kernel run?
>> > Probably not quite what you are asking but here goes:
>> > http://kerneltrap.org/node/464
>> >
>> > run for a few seconds:
>> > $ vmstat 1
>> >
>> > look at system|in = interrupts per second.
>> > this is approximately the interupts per second or timer Hz value.
>> >
>> > from the kernel config parameter HZ_1000 etc:
>> > getconf CLK_TCK
>> >
>> > DaveT.
>> Is there ay way to set the ticks without rebuilding the kernel?
>
> Perhaps if you explained what you are trying to achieve people 
might be

> able to help you get there.
>
> poc
I have an application/service that has 1000 or so threads. Most of 
these are
TCPIP socket accept and connect. I want to be able to run all the 
threads in
a second or so to achieve a reasonable throughput. I would like the 
kernel
to run 1000 threads per second. Right now I think it is set for 100 
ticks

per second in f9 x86 64bit.


The ticks matter when the threads are competing for cpu, but it looks
like in your case they'll mostly be waiting for socket calls (during
which the schedular will hand off to another thread anyway), so
increasing the timeslice frequency is probably not going to make a
difference. Hard to know without testing of course.

poc

Yes you are correct under "NORMAL" circumstances 100 ticks per second
would be ok. But if I design for worst case where all threads are running
I need 1000 ticks per second, or response will not be good. I did not want
to build a custom kernel, but it looks like I may have to to achieve the
design goal.

That depends on whether your design goal is to have the ticks at 1000 or to have 
the system respond properly. That are not the same thing.


Before you start building kernels, run vmstat and look at the context switching 
and interrupt rates. I would expect them to be over 1000 under load, indicating 
that something else is limiting response.


Then look at understand the tunable parameters in the /proc/sys/kernel/sched_* 
area, I found major changes in that area, and traded a small bit of total 
performance for far more response. I posted many things to the kernel mailing 
list, but the meaning of the bits in the "features" has changed since 2.6.18 or 
so, and what I did doesn't work the same way. Lots of room to tune there, 
though, before going down the road to maintaining your own config.


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Re: Reverse Compatibility Manifesto

2008-11-18 Thread Robin Laing

William M. Quarles wrote:
OK, so I said the phrase "Windows XP" in a message, and suddenly NO ONE 
will reply? Seriously, I'll say it again, Microsoft and Sony (e.g. most 
of the PlayStation series) can do reverse compatibility fairly well, and 
Fedora is almost totally lacking in that arena. "Get with the times" 
doesn't always make sense. And if anybody says, "Well, if you like 
reverse compatibility so much, why don't you shell out for Microsoft 
software like 90% of the rest of the herd." Uh, no. There are both 
commercial and "free" software products that need that reverse 
compatibility.


Example: is there anybody out there doing natural science or engineering 
on Linux machines right now who is NOT using any commercial software 
whatsoever?


And just because a "free" software product hasn't been updated in a 
while does not mean that the software is useless.


I can't quadruple boot my machine just to run all of the software I use. 
It should not be necessary, especially when most of this software is 
designed for Red Hat/Fedora distributions, or can be installed and run 
using WINE.


Any thoughts?

William



Vista won't run many old programs.  Many old Windows programs have 
problems with newer ones.  We have scientific equipment that requires 
Windows 98 to run as the software won't run on XP.


If you are using older software, then expect to have issues.  This is 
how Microsoft gets you to spend more money on their products.


I have not purchased any commercial software on my Linux box.  The only 
one that I would like would be Autocad but for 95% of my drafting needs, 
Qcad works.


As for older OpenSource products, sometimes the only thing needed to do 
is to update the "make" file.


As others say, run the software in a VM if it won't run in Wine.

When it comes to software, it comes up to the supplier of the software.


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Re: firefox crashes more than a crashing fire crashing fox

2008-11-18 Thread Alex Makhlin

Waleed Harbi wrote:

What is your firefox versoin? The new one is 3.0.4 try update it if u
see it old.
I thing this issue hapened in javascript within some websites. Try
disabile javascript in firefox,just 4 a test.

On 18/11/2008, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

http://ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk/michael/tmp/htmlview_strace6_uniq_tail.txt

The above link is the tail end of a 'strace' on my htmlview (firefox)
which crashes a lot. Can anybody gain any clues as to this unwelcome
behaviour from said strace output? Ta, M

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Since the update, I and others have been having problems with the new FF 
3.0.4 Most of my plugins don't work but I have found a way around some 
of them. Simply to say, FireFox team needs to get their shit together.
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Need to control loading of usb-storage

2008-11-18 Thread Jean Francois Martinez
My problem is:  

I need to find a way to tell Linux not to load the usb-storage module
when a certain peripheral, whose signature I know, is inserted.  For
now the only way I have found is putting usb-storage in the blacklist
but this means module doesn't load when I plug my usb key or my external
hard drive so I look for something finer grained

Details

I own a cell phones who han USB connector and  can be accessed either as
an MTP device or as a mass storage one but the latter works if, and only
if, it has an additional memory card inserted (presently I have none).
The phone prompts for the mode at coonect time b ut no matter what I
select the usb-storage loads itself, unsuccessfully tries to put the
phone in storage mode (normal behaviour since the phone has no external
memory card) and after a minute or two, gives up, unloads itself and
removes the peripheral from the list of present USB devices.  In other
words even after the usb-storage module has unloaded I cannot use the
phone in mtp mode.

Regards

JFM

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Re: advice for data recovery

2008-11-18 Thread Robin Laing

Robin Laing wrote:

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Todd Denniston wrote:

Dave Stevens wrote, On 11/10/2008 04:56 PM:

Hello All,




So does anyone know of a program I can use to only copy files that are
not damaged? I can sort out the teenies, but don't see how to proceed
after that. 

man ImageMagick
man identify
man convert




I wounder if Jpeg Rescue would help in this case?

http://codesink.org/recover.html

Mikkel



I have not tried identify or convert and will have to test them.



I played with identify and convert (which to my embarrassment are part 
of ImageMagick) and found identify did provide necessary info.  Now 
working on a script to automate the process.


Of course, identify will list all damaged files as damaged and yet they 
may be partially usable.


More playing.

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Re: F8 - xine-lib-extras fails with missing dependency

2008-11-18 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 20:47, Aldo Foot wrote:
> I'm trying to install xine-lib-extras, but I get an error.
>
> Error: Missing Dependency: libcucul.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libcaca.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdirect-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libfusion-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdirectfb-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libaa.so.1 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
>
> I have recently updated my F8 box, so I know my fedora repository
> config is fine.
> I also have the rpmfusion repositories configured.
> Is this a case of a repository just not having the required
> dependencies for xine-lib-extras?
>
> comments?
> ~af

That's a bit odd. I've just installed xine-lib-extras on F8, at the same time 
that I installed Xine, because of some problem where Kaffeine couldn't find 
the dvd drive, and xine-lib-extras installed ok, without any problems.

I see that I have libcaca installed, and, rpm -q -l libcaca shows th following 
output.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]$ ssh 192.168.0.190
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Last login: Sun Nov 16 20:37:39 2008 from 192.168.0.230
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -q -l libcaca
/usr/lib/libcaca.so.0
/usr/lib/libcaca.so.0.99.0
/usr/lib/libcucul.so.0
/usr/lib/libcucul.so.0.99.0
/usr/share/doc/libcaca-0.99
/usr/share/doc/libcaca-0.99/COPYING
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

That seems to handle 2 of the missing deps, but have no idea which lib/s are 
missing to provide the others, as I don't see any of them on synaptic.

Nigel.




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Re: F8 - xine-lib-extras fails with missing dependency

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:47:59 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote:

> I'm trying to install xine-lib-extras, but I get an error.
> 
> Error: Missing Dependency: libcucul.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libcaca.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdirect-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libfusion-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdirectfb-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libaa.so.1 is needed by package
> xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
> 
> I have recently updated my F8 box, so I know my fedora repository
> config is fine.
> I also have the rpmfusion repositories configured.
> Is this a case of a repository just not having the required
> dependencies for xine-lib-extras?
> 
> comments?
> ~af

Don't truncate Yum output too much.
Don't disable the base "fedora.repo".

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Re: firefox crashes more than a crashing fire crashing fox

2008-11-18 Thread Waleed Harbi
What is your firefox versoin? The new one is 3.0.4 try update it if u
see it old.
I thing this issue hapened in javascript within some websites. Try
disabile javascript in firefox,just 4 a test.

On 18/11/2008, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk/michael/tmp/htmlview_strace6_uniq_tail.txt
>
> The above link is the tail end of a 'strace' on my htmlview (firefox)
> which crashes a lot. Can anybody gain any clues as to this unwelcome
> behaviour from said strace output? Ta, M
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F8 - xine-lib-extras fails with missing dependency

2008-11-18 Thread Aldo Foot
I'm trying to install xine-lib-extras, but I get an error.

Error: Missing Dependency: libcucul.so.0 is needed by package
xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: libcaca.so.0 is needed by package
xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: libdirect-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: libfusion-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: libdirectfb-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: libaa.so.1 is needed by package
xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)

I have recently updated my F8 box, so I know my fedora repository
config is fine.
I also have the rpmfusion repositories configured.
Is this a case of a repository just not having the required
dependencies for xine-lib-extras?

comments?
~af

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Re: privoxy logfile on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:18:06 -0500
Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > So I now have two computers with F9 and one with F10 and none of them have
> > privoxy doing any logging.  Why?
> 
> I have the same problem on F9. Selunix policies are preventing privoxy's
> access to the log file. There are messages about this in my sytem log
> file.  I don't know enough about Selunix to attempt a solution.

There has to be more to it than that.  I have selinux disabled.

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Alan Cox

> I have read that html 5 will make flash unnecessary. 
> 
> Is there any truth to that assertion?

SVG certainly makes most of it unneccessary already.

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Re: Custom gdm theme

2008-11-18 Thread Iarly Selbir
Thanks for you reply Gilboa, so... don't there's another way to do it?


Thanks again.

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Gilboa Davara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 17:44 +, Iarly Selbir wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > how are you doing to customize the theme of GDM on the Fedora, I only
> > found solution for change your backuground, but the theme I not know.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Reggards,
> >
> AFAIK GDM 2.22 (Fedora 9) and GDM 2.24 (F10) cannot be themed. (Beyond
> the basic wall-paper and GTK widget styles.)
>
> - Gilboa
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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Les Mikesell

Dave Feustel wrote:





Go with 64 bit.  I have gotten 3 machines with AMD64 processors and I have 
installed Fedora 10 Preview with 64 bit version and they are working nicely :)  
It(64 bit) will make full use of the machines capabilities and if it were not 
for the flash player and other proprietary stuff, 64 is the way to go :)

As pointed out in a separate thread, adobe has finally stared working on
and has an alpha version out of 64bit version of flash.  Check the
archives for the thread.  So that argument isn't relevant any longer?
If flash is important to you, I think it is until is is proven to be as  
reliable as the 32 bit version ;)


I have read that html 5 will make flash unnecessary. 


Is there any truth to that assertion?


It is supposed to include audio and video elements, but there's not much 
reason to expect all the parties involved to ever agree on a standard 
codec which leaves you pretty much in the same shape as needing flash.


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Re: Custom gdm theme

2008-11-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 17:44 +, Iarly Selbir wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> how are you doing to customize the theme of GDM on the Fedora, I only
> found solution for change your backuground, but the theme I not know.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Reggards, 
> 
AFAIK GDM 2.22 (Fedora 9) and GDM 2.24 (F10) cannot be themed. (Beyond
the basic wall-paper and GTK widget styles.)

- Gilboa

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Custom gdm theme

2008-11-18 Thread Iarly Selbir
Hi all,

how are you doing to customize the theme of GDM on the Fedora, I only found
solution for change your backuground, but the theme I not know.

Thanks in advance.

Reggards,

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 05:31:09PM +, Chris Jones wrote:
> Mike Chambers wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:31 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>
>>> Go with 64 bit.  I have gotten 3 machines with AMD64 processors and I have 
>>> installed Fedora 10 Preview with 64 bit version and they are working nicely 
>>> :)  It(64 bit) will make full use of the machines capabilities and if it 
>>> were not for the flash player and other proprietary stuff, 64 is the way to 
>>> go :)
>>
>> As pointed out in a separate thread, adobe has finally stared working on
>> and has an alpha version out of 64bit version of flash.  Check the
>> archives for the thread.  So that argument isn't relevant any longer?
>
> If flash is important to you, I think it is until is is proven to be as  
> reliable as the 32 bit version ;)

I have read that html 5 will make flash unnecessary. 

Is there any truth to that assertion?

Thanks.

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Chris Jones

Mike Chambers wrote:

On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:31 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:


Go with 64 bit.  I have gotten 3 machines with AMD64 processors and I have 
installed Fedora 10 Preview with 64 bit version and they are working nicely :)  
It(64 bit) will make full use of the machines capabilities and if it were not 
for the flash player and other proprietary stuff, 64 is the way to go :)


As pointed out in a separate thread, adobe has finally stared working on
and has an alpha version out of 64bit version of flash.  Check the
archives for the thread.  So that argument isn't relevant any longer?


If flash is important to you, I think it is until is is proven to be as 
reliable as the 32 bit version ;)


Chris



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Re: [sudo-users] How to disable ( deny ) user to change the password of root

2008-11-18 Thread Gordon Messmer

Matthew Flaschen wrote:

Gordon Messmer wrote:

Yes, there is.  Don't let users execute any of those commands directly.


That's not a solution.  The user can still edit /etc/passwd manually.


In the solution I propose, the user can only edit "passwd-wrapper" and 
other wrappers with sudo.  In that configuration, they aren't given any 
access to edit /etc/passwd manually.


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Lost audio on headphones (F9)

2008-11-18 Thread Andre Costa
Hi,

my desktop computer has one of those front headphones connectors, and it
always worked (always = since Fedora8), playing the same audio that goes to
the front speakers. I tried it today and it doesn't work anymore, my guess
is that some of the recent updates might have changed something on audio
config (I know hardware is ok because system is dual-boot, and headphones
work on XP). Front speakers are working as expected.

I tried playing around with PulseAudio settings, but didn't get anywhere

I know this is a lame call for help, but I don't even know what kind of info
I should provide. Here's something that might help:

# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
  HDA Intel at 0xa322 irq 22

System is running Fedora 9 with latest updates.

Any help will be appreciated. Let me know what kind of additional info I
should provide.

Regards,

Andre
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firefox crashes more than a crashing fire crashing fox

2008-11-18 Thread michael
http://ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk/michael/tmp/htmlview_strace6_uniq_tail.txt

The above link is the tail end of a 'strace' on my htmlview (firefox)
which crashes a lot. Can anybody gain any clues as to this unwelcome
behaviour from said strace output? Ta, M

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 08:33 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
> No, the new Firefox version was installed with last Thursdays Fedora 
> upgrades.

I update my system (F10-pre) every day and haven't seen it yet.

poc

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Re: [sudo-users] How to disable ( deny ) user to change the password of root

2008-11-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Gordon Messmer wrote:
> Yes, there is.  Don't let users execute any of those commands directly.

That's not a solution.  The user can still edit /etc/passwd manually.

Matt Flaschen

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Re: [sudo-users] How to disable ( deny ) user to change the password of root

2008-11-18 Thread Gordon Messmer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BUT there is another problem of it ( I think it is a bug of sudo ).

When you enter "sudo passwd" without the option (eg:userid):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd
Changing password for user root.
New UNIX password:


That's not a bug.  "sudo" doesn't know what you're trying to do, only 
whether or not your commands match the patterns in its configuration 
files.  They do, so sudo allows the access.



OH...the user manager who can change root password ?

So, is there any solution for this case of problem ?


Yes, there is.  Don't let users execute any of those commands directly. 
 Write shell scripts that validate the commands that you want them to 
execute, and only allow users to execute those with sudo.  For example:


passwd-wrapper:
#!/bin/sh

# Validate that a username was given as an argument
[ -n "$1" ] || {
echo "Use: passwd-wrapper " >&2
exit 64
}

# Validate that the username wasn't "root"
[ "$1" != "root" ] || {
echo "Can't set the root user's password" >&2
exit 77
}

# Use -- to make sure that the "username" given wasn't just
# a switch that passwd would interpret.
# THIS ONLY WORKS ON GNU SYSTEMS.
passwd -- "$1"

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Alex Makhlin

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 08:12 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
  
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 


On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 01:00 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
  
  

I can crank up Firefox and listen to the "oldies" and "smooth jazz" channels on
http://www.club977.com on a computer with F8/x86_64 and mplayer.

Same setup on F9 and F10-beta doesn't play anything.

I'm having difficulty getting anything that's non-flash-based to play as a
stream through Firefox on F9 and F10-beta, but everything just works with the
exact same setup on F8.

Does anyone else see the same results as me?



Works for me. I use gecko-mediaplayer (which runs mplayer). Maybe that's
what you're missing.

poc

  
  

Many people are having issues with the latest Firefox 3.0.4 upgrade
and I am having the same problem since the last Fedora update. I am
running Fedora 9, KDE 4.2 and had no problems in the past but since
Firefox has been updated to version 3.0.4 I can no longer listen to
most streams unless I use a media player like Amarok. I have
gecko-mediaplayer and plugin installed.



I'm still on FF 3.0.2, which is the latest repo version. Did you
download direct from Mozilla?

poc

  
No, the new Firefox version was installed with last Thursdays Fedora 
upgrades.


Alex
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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-18 Thread Gordon Messmer

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

In any case, the owner of the script is only security-relevant in two
cases: 1) if it allows someone to edit the script who normally couldn't,
or 2) if the script is setuid. Of course it could also change who can
*execute* the script, but if it's not setuid they'll be doing it as
themselves, not as the owner.


Does setuid work on scrips? I know it did not in the past, but I
have not checked to see if that has changed.


No, it doesn't, and it never will.  Making "root" a script's owner is 
not a "security issue".


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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 09:39 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > The ability to do what? Give root ownership to a script? It is
> > unchanged. Once again: only root can change ownership.
> > 
> > In any case, the owner of the script is only security-relevant in two
> > cases: 1) if it allows someone to edit the script who normally couldn't,
> > or 2) if the script is setuid. Of course it could also change who can
> > *execute* the script, but if it's not setuid they'll be doing it as
> > themselves, not as the owner.
> > 
> Does setuid work on scrips? I know it did not in the past, but I
> have not checked to see if that has changed.

Quite right, it doesn't. I should have spotted that.

It doesn't affect the argument though.

poc

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 08:12 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 01:00 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> >   
> > > I can crank up Firefox and listen to the "oldies" and "smooth jazz" 
> > > channels on
> > > http://www.club977.com on a computer with F8/x86_64 and mplayer.
> > > 
> > > Same setup on F9 and F10-beta doesn't play anything.
> > > 
> > > I'm having difficulty getting anything that's non-flash-based to play as a
> > > stream through Firefox on F9 and F10-beta, but everything just works with 
> > > the
> > > exact same setup on F8.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone else see the same results as me?
> > > 
> > 
> > Works for me. I use gecko-mediaplayer (which runs mplayer). Maybe that's
> > what you're missing.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> >   
> Many people are having issues with the latest Firefox 3.0.4 upgrade
> and I am having the same problem since the last Fedora update. I am
> running Fedora 9, KDE 4.2 and had no problems in the past but since
> Firefox has been updated to version 3.0.4 I can no longer listen to
> most streams unless I use a media player like Amarok. I have
> gecko-mediaplayer and plugin installed.

I'm still on FF 3.0.2, which is the latest repo version. Did you
download direct from Mozilla?

poc

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Alex Makhlin

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 01:00 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
  

I can crank up Firefox and listen to the "oldies" and "smooth jazz" channels on
http://www.club977.com on a computer with F8/x86_64 and mplayer.

Same setup on F9 and F10-beta doesn't play anything.

I'm having difficulty getting anything that's non-flash-based to play as a
stream through Firefox on F9 and F10-beta, but everything just works with the
exact same setup on F8.

Does anyone else see the same results as me?



Works for me. I use gecko-mediaplayer (which runs mplayer). Maybe that's
what you're missing.

poc

  
Many people are having issues with the latest Firefox 3.0.4 upgrade and 
I am having the same problem since the last Fedora update. I am running 
Fedora 9, KDE 4.2 and had no problems in the past but since Firefox has 
been updated to version 3.0.4 I can no longer listen to most streams 
unless I use a media player like Amarok. I have gecko-mediaplayer and 
plugin installed.
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Re: convert mpa files to mp3 ?

2008-11-18 Thread John Aldrich
On Monday 17 November 2008, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi All;
>
> Anyone know if I can use lame (or another tool) to convert iTunes mpa files
> to mp3 format ?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
Zamzar.com is your friend. :-) you upload the files to them and then they send 
you back a link to download the converted files.

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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> The ability to do what? Give root ownership to a script? It is
> unchanged. Once again: only root can change ownership.
> 
> In any case, the owner of the script is only security-relevant in two
> cases: 1) if it allows someone to edit the script who normally couldn't,
> or 2) if the script is setuid. Of course it could also change who can
> *execute* the script, but if it's not setuid they'll be doing it as
> themselves, not as the owner.
> 
Does setuid work on scrips? I know it did not in the past, but I
have not checked to see if that has changed.

Mikkel
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Re: [OT] intel E5420 + tyan i5100x != virtualization

2008-11-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 09:43 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> I put together a new MB, with 2 xeon E5420 and tyan i5100x MB.  On BIOS 
> (advanced/cpu) 'virtualization technology' says 'enabled'.  But, not vmx bit, 
> and ideas?
> 
> 
> processor   : 7
> vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
> cpu family  : 6
> model   : 23
> model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   E5420  @ 2.50GHz
> stepping: 10
> cpu MHz : 2493.747
> cache size  : 6144 KB
> physical id : 1
> siblings: 4
> core id : 3
> cpu cores   : 4
> apicid  : 7
> initial apicid  : 7
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level : 13
> wp  : yes
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
> cmov pat pse36 clflush dtsacpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm 
> constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni tm2ssse3 lahf_lm
> bogomips: 4987.53
> clflush size: 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes   : 38 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management:
> 

I'm using a newer i5400XT board with E5335 CPUs on one workstation, and
E5440 on the other.

$ echo CPU: $(cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Xeon | uniq), CPU VT ext: $(cat 
/proc/cpuinfo | grep -o vmx | wc -l) cores.
CPU: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5335 @ 2.00GHz, CPU VT ext: 8 cores.

$ echo CPU: $(cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Xeon | uniq), CPU VT ext: $(cat 
/proc/cpuinfo | grep -o vmx | wc -l) cores.
CPU: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5440 @ 2.83GHz, CPU VT ext: 8 cores.

qemu-kvm is working just fine on both.
Must likely your BIOS fails to detect/enable the VT extension on your
54xx CPUs.

Have you looked for an updated BIOS in tyan.com?

- Gilboa

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Re: Installion of proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:02:39PM +0800, Nelson Chan wrote:
> maybe you need to run "make" as root?
> i don't have write permission for my normal user in /usr/local

You can unzip to a dir in your home dir and then run make as a normal
user. Become root to install from that dir.

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RE: Installion of proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread Nelson Chan
maybe you need to run "make" as root?
i don't have write permission for my normal user in /usr/local
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RE: [OT] intel E5420 + tyan i5100x != virtualization

2008-11-18 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I put together a new MB, with 2 xeon E5420 and tyan i5100x MB.  On BIOS 
>(advanced/cpu) 'virtualization technology' says >'enabled'.  But, not vmx bit, 
>and ideas?

Update your bios, there is a recent release this month iirc. Other than that, I
would email [EMAIL PROTECTED], your procs most certainly support this so that 
leaves
your mobo as to what's not exposing it.

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[OT] intel E5420 + tyan i5100x != virtualization

2008-11-18 Thread Neal Becker
I put together a new MB, with 2 xeon E5420 and tyan i5100x MB.  On BIOS 
(advanced/cpu) 'virtualization technology' says 'enabled'.  But, not vmx bit, 
and ideas?


processor   : 7
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 23
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   E5420  @ 2.50GHz
stepping: 10
cpu MHz : 2493.747
cache size  : 6144 KB
physical id : 1
siblings: 4
core id : 3
cpu cores   : 4
apicid  : 7
initial apicid  : 7
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dtsacpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm 
constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni tm2ssse3 lahf_lm
bogomips: 4987.53
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 38 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:


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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 01:00 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> I can crank up Firefox and listen to the "oldies" and "smooth jazz" channels 
> on
> http://www.club977.com on a computer with F8/x86_64 and mplayer.
> 
> Same setup on F9 and F10-beta doesn't play anything.
> 
> I'm having difficulty getting anything that's non-flash-based to play as a
> stream through Firefox on F9 and F10-beta, but everything just works with the
> exact same setup on F8.
> 
> Does anyone else see the same results as me?

Works for me. I use gecko-mediaplayer (which runs mplayer). Maybe that's
what you're missing.

poc

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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 03:16 +, g wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > You can do that if you're root. Otherwise you can't. You can do lots of
> > idiotic things as root. What's your point?
> 
> in jerry's comment;
>  'Giving root ownership to a script IMHO is a security issue.'
> led me to believe that ability to do so by normal user was still unchanged.

The ability to do what? Give root ownership to a script? It is
unchanged. Once again: only root can change ownership.

In any case, the owner of the script is only security-relevant in two
cases: 1) if it allows someone to edit the script who normally couldn't,
or 2) if the script is setuid. Of course it could also change who can
*execute* the script, but if it's not setuid they'll be doing it as
themselves, not as the owner.

> having read 'chown(2)' and trying it to see just what occurred, now shows
> me that it has been changed.

What exactly has changed?

> i had hopes that it would be corrected, i have never checked or tried to
> do so. as i have never had reason to do, because if i ever need to do
> something of 'root' level, i have always changed to 'root'.

Meaning you'll be running scripts as root, same as everyone. The only
difference is that you have to supply the root password to get there.
Once past that hurdle, the situation is exactly the same as using
setuid.

poc

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Sound card permissions

2008-11-18 Thread James Allsopp

Hi,
Cheers for the answer, I was just wondering if there was a proper way of
doing it, maybe using udev?

Why doesn't Fedora have an audio group, much easier!
Jim

John Thompson wrote:
> James Allsopp wrote:
> 
>> I'm trying to run mpd and icecast under my own username but run into the
>> problem that udev I think is constantly rewriting the permissions for
>> /dev/snd
>> I've made a group audio and I've added myself to it and recursively
>> changed the group of /dev/snd/*, but next time I boot I have to do it
>> again.
>>
>> chmod 770 /dev/snd -R && chgrp audio /dev/snd -R
>> also works.
>>
>> How can I make udev make /dev/snd/* group audio always?
> 
> There's probably a way to have pam do this, but the quick 'n' dirty way
> would be to add your line (chmod 770 /dev/snd -R && chgrp audio /dev/snd
> -R) to /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> 
> 

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Re: privoxy logfile on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:55:46AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> I upgraded a couple of my computers from F8 to F9 the other day and have
> discovered that Privoxy no longer updates its logfile.
> 
> /etc/privoxy/config contains the following lines, both of which are 
> uncommented.
> 
> logdir /var/log/privoxy
> logfile logfile
> 
> However, as you can see here, the last time the privoxy logfile was updated 
> was
> on November 3, when I updated this machine from F8 to F9.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ls -ld privoxy
> drwx--x--x 2 privoxy privoxy 4096 2008-03-05 06:43 privoxy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ls -l privoxy
> total 1220
> -rw-r--r-- 1 privoxy privoxy 585562 2008-11-03 17:45 logfile
> -rw-r--r-- 1 privoxy privoxy 165643 2008-10-24 04:02 logfile-20081024.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 privoxy privoxy 138819 2008-10-27 04:02 logfile-20081027.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 privoxy privoxy 194770 2008-10-30 04:02 logfile-20081030.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 privoxy privoxy 137054 2008-11-02 04:02 logfile-20081102.gz
> 
> I also put F10-beta on my little Acer Aspire One laptop the other day and it,
> too, doesn't create any logfile in /var/log/privoxy.  I got one entry from the
> day that I installed it saying that the configuration was incorrect, and 
> nothing
> ever since then.
> 
> So I now have two computers with F9 and one with F10 and none of them have
> privoxy doing any logging.  Why?

I have the same problem on F9. Selunix policies are preventing privoxy's
access to the log file. There are messages about this in my sytem log
file.  I don't know enough about Selunix to attempt a solution.

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread David Jansen
The only 64-bit computer I run 32-bit Fedora on, is one that requires
ndiswrapper for its wireless card, and it only has a 32-bit windows
driver. Or is there a solution for that 32/64 bit problem too?

David Jansen

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Re: Kernel Timeslice

2008-11-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:45 -0500, Steve West wrote:
> >> > Steve West wrote:
> >> >> I am running Fedora 9 x86 64 bit. What is the kernel timetick per
> >> >> thread? How many threads per second does the kernel run?
> >> > Probably not quite what you are asking but here goes:
> >> > http://kerneltrap.org/node/464
> >> >
> >> > run for a few seconds:
> >> > $ vmstat 1
> >> >
> >> > look at system|in = interrupts per second.
> >> > this is approximately the interupts per second or timer Hz value.
> >> >
> >> > from the kernel config parameter HZ_1000 etc:
> >> > getconf CLK_TCK
> >> >
> >> > DaveT.
> >> Is there ay way to set the ticks without rebuilding the kernel?
> >
> > Perhaps if you explained what you are trying to achieve people might be
> > able to help you get there.
> >
> > poc
> I have an application/service that has 1000 or so threads. Most of these are 
> TCPIP socket accept and connect. I want to be able to run all the threads in 
> a second or so to achieve a reasonable throughput. I would like the kernel 
> to run 1000 threads per second. Right now I think it is set for 100 ticks 
> per second in f9 x86 64bit.
> 
> Steve 
> 

Having you considered using a far smaller number of threads and
select/poll to wait on the sockets instead of allocating
thread-per-client.

In my experience, unless your server code is I/O bound (in which case,
you can always use asyncio and/or I/O worker threads), a single thread
can max out the bandwidth of 1Gbps line and handle 100's of clients.

- Gilboa

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kgdb debugging

2008-11-18 Thread Calin Iaru
I am trying to debug over serial console using the 2.6.27.6 kernel, but I get 
stuck into some issues.

On the server side:
- the kernel is built with all debug options from make menuconfig
- the grub.conf entry shows:
title CentOS (2.6.27.6) Serial Debugging
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.6 ro root=LABEL=/ kgdboc=ttyS0,115200
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.6.img
On the client side, the kernel is booted with these settings:
title CentOS (2.6.27.6)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.6 ro root=LABEL=/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.6.img
[EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.27.6]# stty -F /dev/ttyS0
speed 115200 baud; line = 0;
min = 0; time = 10;
-brkint -icrnl -imaxbel
-opost -onlcr
-isig -icanon -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoctl -echoke
- run echo -e "003" > /dev/ttyS0
- run gdb ./vmlinux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# gdb /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.6/vmlinux
GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.5-25.el5_1.1rh)
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu"...Using host libthread_db 
library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".

(gdb) set remotebaud 115200
(gdb) target remote /dev/ttyS0
Remote debugging using /dev/ttyS0
Ignoring packet error, continuing...
Ignoring packet error, continuing...
Ignoring packet error, continuing...
Malformed response to offset query, qOffset4b


Why can't I connect with gdb and run all the break commands?



  

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Re: mplayer streaming on F9 and F10

2008-11-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 07:00:03 Frank Cox wrote:
> I can crank up Firefox and listen to the "oldies" and "smooth jazz"
> channels on http://www.club977.com on a computer with F8/x86_64 and
> mplayer.
>
> Same setup on F9 and F10-beta doesn't play anything.
>
> I'm having difficulty getting anything that's non-flash-based to play as a
> stream through Firefox on F9 and F10-beta, but everything just works with
> the exact same setup on F8.
>
> Does anyone else see the same results as me?
>
It must be something missing, Frank.  On this Mandriva laptop running 
2009+KDE4 that site plays without a problem.  

Could it be a codec issue?  On the F10 laptop I got a requirement for addition 
plugin - mmsh protocol source.  Since I only have fedora repos at the moment 
it didn't find anything.

If you want to compare any file lists with the Mandriva laptop, just let me 
know.

Anne


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Re: Installion of proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> Sorry...
>> My means is tarball package ( NOT rpm / yum )...
>> 
> Apparently
>
> The question really is...  why would you want to use a tar package when
> it is already in the repos and maintained for you?   Just seems like you
> are making more work for yourself than you need to. 
>
> Sorry I don't have an answer for you at the moment as to your compile
> issue but the problem you have is normally caused by not having a
> particular devel package installed.
>   
OK

google is your friend.

http://forums.proftpd.org/smf/index.php?topic=3556.0

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Re: Installion of proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Sorry...
> My means is tarball package ( NOT rpm / yum )...
Apparently

The question really is...  why would you want to use a tar package when
it is already in the repos and maintained for you?   Just seems like you
are making more work for yourself than you need to. 

Sorry I don't have an answer for you at the moment as to your compile
issue but the problem you have is normally caused by not having a
particular devel package installed.
>
> Thanks !
>
> Edward.
>
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>   
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Would you mind to help as the following
>>> 
>> Are you saying
>>
>> yum install proftpd
>>
>> isn't sufficient?
>>   
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ make
>>> cd lib/ && make lib
>>> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
>>> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DLINUX  -I.. -I../include  -O2 -Wall -c
>>> pr_fnmatch.c
>>> In file included from /usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h:4,
>>> from /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28,
>>> from /usr/include/signal.h:333,
>>> from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:31,
>>> from ../include/conf.h:95,
>>> from pr_fnmatch.c:38:
>>> /usr/include/asm/types.h:6: error: conflicting types for 璽�畋爖ode_t璽�砂讶
>>> /usr/include/sys/types.h:72: error: previous declaration of
>>> 璽�畋爖ode_t璽�砂讶 was here
>>> make[1]: *** [pr_fnmatch.o] Error 1
>>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
>>> make: *** [lib] Error 2
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "gcc"
>>> gcc-4.3.0-8.i386
>>> gcc-gfortran-4.3.0-8.i386
>>> libgcc-4.3.0-8.i386
>>> gcc-c++-4.3.0-8.i386
>>> gcc-java-4.3.0-8.i386
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "make"
>>> automake17-1.7.9-11.noarch
>>> automake16-1.6.3-14.noarch
>>> automake14-1.4p6-15.fc7.noarch
>>> automake-1.10.1-2.noarch
>>> make-3.81-12.fc9.i386
>>> automake15-1.5-23.noarch
>>> imake-1.0.2-6.fc9.i386
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your help !
>>>
>>> Edward.
>>>
>>> 
>>
>>
>>   


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Re: Installion of proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread edwardspl
Hello,

Sorry...
My means is tarball package ( NOT rpm / yum )...

Thanks !

Edward.

Ed Greshko wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>Would you mind to help as the following
>>
>>
>Are you saying
>
>yum install proftpd
>
>isn't sufficient?
>  
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ make
>>cd lib/ && make lib
>>make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
>>gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DLINUX  -I.. -I../include  -O2 -Wall -c
>>pr_fnmatch.c
>>In file included from /usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h:4,
>>from /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28,
>>from /usr/include/signal.h:333,
>>from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:31,
>>from ../include/conf.h:95,
>>from pr_fnmatch.c:38:
>>/usr/include/asm/types.h:6: error: conflicting types for 璽?畋�mode_t璽?砂��
>>/usr/include/sys/types.h:72: error: previous declaration of
>>璽?畋�mode_t璽?砂�� was here
>>make[1]: *** [pr_fnmatch.o] Error 1
>>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
>>make: *** [lib] Error 2
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "gcc"
>>gcc-4.3.0-8.i386
>>gcc-gfortran-4.3.0-8.i386
>>libgcc-4.3.0-8.i386
>>gcc-c++-4.3.0-8.i386
>>gcc-java-4.3.0-8.i386
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "make"
>>automake17-1.7.9-11.noarch
>>automake16-1.6.3-14.noarch
>>automake14-1.4p6-15.fc7.noarch
>>automake-1.10.1-2.noarch
>>make-3.81-12.fc9.i386
>>automake15-1.5-23.noarch
>>imake-1.0.2-6.fc9.i386
>>
>>Many thanks for your help !
>>
>>Edward.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>  
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Re: Now What do you do when you blow a Raid 1 disk?

2008-11-18 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

Neal Rhodes wrote:

So, software Raid 1 in Fedora is just the bee's knees.   Until a drive
actually fails.Then it's not so much.   How do you get out of this
swamp? 


What are the steps to take out a dead drive, stuff in a brand new
identical disk drive, and get the Raid back going again?   In my case,
the system still boots, and has /,  /boot, and /u as three Raid1
filesystems.Each filesystem is running degraded. 


Use "cat /proc/mdstat" or "mdadm --detail /dev/mdN" to determine which 
drive failed, where mdN is the wonky array. Then run:


  mdadm /dev/mdN --remove /dev/that/has/failed

To remove the failed drive, then replace it with the same size or larger 
and run:


  mdadm /dev/mdN --add /dev/shiny/new/replacement/drive

Then check the resync has begun via mdstat/mdadm. You can also monitor 
its progress with something like:


  watch -n5 cat /proc/mdstat


Let's presume my 2nd drive is toast, and I've got a replacement.  What
are the steps?Seems like I can't do anything with mdadm while it's
up, because the drives are busy.   


Why not? The mdadm command is designed for use in this situation. You 
might want to take a look at the Software RAID how to, which provides a 
lot more detail on manipulating running MD RAID arrays:


http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html

Although it's not been updated in a while, the basic commands (create, 
assemble, add, remove etc.) really haven't changed in a long time.


Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: Installion of proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Would you mind to help as the following
Are you saying

yum install proftpd

isn't sufficient?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ make
> cd lib/ && make lib
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DLINUX  -I.. -I../include  -O2 -Wall -c
> pr_fnmatch.c
> In file included from /usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h:4,
> from /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28,
> from /usr/include/signal.h:333,
> from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:31,
> from ../include/conf.h:95,
> from pr_fnmatch.c:38:
> /usr/include/asm/types.h:6: error: conflicting types for ‘mode_t’
> /usr/include/sys/types.h:72: error: previous declaration of
> ‘mode_t’ was here
> make[1]: *** [pr_fnmatch.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
> make: *** [lib] Error 2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "gcc"
> gcc-4.3.0-8.i386
> gcc-gfortran-4.3.0-8.i386
> libgcc-4.3.0-8.i386
> gcc-c++-4.3.0-8.i386
> gcc-java-4.3.0-8.i386
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "make"
> automake17-1.7.9-11.noarch
> automake16-1.6.3-14.noarch
> automake14-1.4p6-15.fc7.noarch
> automake-1.10.1-2.noarch
> make-3.81-12.fc9.i386
> automake15-1.5-23.noarch
> imake-1.0.2-6.fc9.i386
>
> Many thanks for your help !
>
> Edward.
>


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Installion of proftp 1.3.x on FC9

2008-11-18 Thread edwardspl

Dear All,

Would you mind to help as the following ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ make
cd lib/ && make lib
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DLINUX  -I.. -I../include  -O2 -Wall -c pr_fnmatch.c
In file included from /usr/include/asm/sigcontext.h:4,
from /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28,
from /usr/include/signal.h:333,
from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:31,
from ../include/conf.h:95,
from pr_fnmatch.c:38:
/usr/include/asm/types.h:6: error: conflicting types for ‘mode_t’
/usr/include/sys/types.h:72: error: previous declaration of ‘mode_t’ 
was here

make[1]: *** [pr_fnmatch.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/proftpd-1.3.1/lib'
make: *** [lib] Error 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "gcc"
gcc-4.3.0-8.i386
gcc-gfortran-4.3.0-8.i386
libgcc-4.3.0-8.i386
gcc-c++-4.3.0-8.i386
gcc-java-4.3.0-8.i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proftpd-1.3.1]$ sudo rpm -qa | grep "make"
automake17-1.7.9-11.noarch
automake16-1.6.3-14.noarch
automake14-1.4p6-15.fc7.noarch
automake-1.10.1-2.noarch
make-3.81-12.fc9.i386
automake15-1.5-23.noarch
imake-1.0.2-6.fc9.i386

Many thanks for your help !

Edward.

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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-18 Thread g
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Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> You can do that if you're root. Otherwise you can't. You can do lots of
> idiotic things as root. What's your point?

in jerry's comment;
 'Giving root ownership to a script IMHO is a security issue.'
led me to believe that ability to do so by normal user was still unchanged.

having read 'chown(2)' and trying it to see just what occurred, now shows
me that it has been changed.

i had hopes that it would be corrected, i have never checked or tried to
do so. as i have never had reason to do, because if i ever need to do
something of 'root' level, i have always changed to 'root'.

> You seem to be suggesting that root should be able to change to some
> owners and not to others.

not even.

> (SElinux is a different story).

and i am glad to see it and enjoying learning about it.
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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-18 Thread g
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Rick Stevens wrote:

> Do you mean "college professor", by any chance?  (satire intended)  :-)

yes. but spellnig checker did not nkow that. ;^)
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