Re: F10's name ??

2008-11-26 Thread unix rider
i cant speak en

On 11/27/08, Paul W. Frields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:14:56AM -0800, Globe Trotter wrote:
>>
>> btw, i may be misremembering, but wasn't FC1 named Cambridge? Maybe
>> tis the American city?:-)
>
> Cambridge was the internal proposed release name for Red Hat Linux 10,
> which evaporated in favor of Fedora Core 1 ("Yarrow").
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Re: F9 Preupgrade does not list F10?

2008-11-26 Thread unix rider
i cant speak english

On 11/26/08, Alan Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Brian Millett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> wget http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=70585
>
> How about:
>
> wget
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/preupgrade/1.0.0/1.fc9/noarch/preupgrade-1.0.0-1.fc9.noarch.rpm
>
> Works better.
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Re: F-10 system-config-network problem

2008-11-26 Thread Prasan (ප්‍ රසාන ්) Hettiarachchi
After a fresh installation of Fedora 10 I also faced this problem seting a
static IP and I had to manually edit
"/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0".


On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Deepak Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Bob Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >>
> >> I've just installed from the F10 live cd.  It did not ask me for the
> >> network setup information, I may have missed something with the sun
> shining
> >> in on the screen?
> >>
> >> But I should be able to set it up with system-config-network.  I can
> enter
> >> the data without a problem but it insists on changing  the subnet mask
> to
> >> 192.168.1.1?
> >>
> >> Should be 192.168.1.7
> >>
> >> Sub. mask  255.255.255.0
> >>
> >> Def. gw192.169.1.1
> >>
> >> I save it and it comes up wrong.
> >>
> >> Nothing is changed in the hardware, F9 worked without a problem on it a
> >> couple of hours ago.
> >>
> >> Any idea?
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > NETMASK was set wrong in  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > once corrected there it came up right in system-config-network.
> >
> > But who needs a tool that wont effect a change to correct an error?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
> Hi, I was also mentioning the same just yesterday
> (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-November/msg02162.html).
> Probably the same problem. You just confirmed it :-)
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Re: F9 - F10 Upgrade Left only GRUB prompt

2008-11-26 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Richard England wrote:
> I used preupgrade (1.0.0-1.fc9.noarch) to upgrade a Dell Latitude laptop
> from F9 to F10. Every thing seemed to go fine but on reboot I'm getting
> only a GRUB prompt.

I got the same result doing a DVD upgrade of F9-x86_64 to F10-x86_64.

Booting in rescue mode and doing a "grub-install /dev/sda" fixed
the problem.

Nothing relevant in /root/upgrade*

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Problems with preupgrade install

2008-11-26 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I have just attempted to upgrade from F9 to F10 via preupgrade.

Whilst it was downloading the packages, there was a message that there
wasn't enough space in /boot to download the install image, and it
would do it at boot time instead (I think that was what the message
said).

At boot time, sure enough, it asked me to choose an ethernet port, and
it went ahead and downloaded the install image OK. So the netwrok
connection was working fine.

But then at the next stage, it complained that it couldn't find the
repo (or something like that). I retried once, then abandoned the
installation.

So:

a) Is there something I can do to fix this?
b) if not, how do I clean up the preinstall (I guess there must be a
LOT of disk space filled with RPMs)?
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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:00:12 +1100
Norman Gaywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just succeeded in doing and NFS upgrade from F9 to F10. I made a CD
> out of Fedora-10-i386-netinst.iso, booted that and at the grub menu:
> 
>   - Made sure install/upgrade existing system was selected
>   - Hit TAB before the timeout
>   - Appended this to the boot command line:
> method=nfsiso:servername:/exported/dir/withiso
>   - pressed enter
> 
> After answering the question about languages, keyboard and which interface
> to use, it managed to upgrade my system without further input.

Interesting.  And very slick indeed.

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Re: SSH user key authentication failing in f10

2008-11-26 Thread Nick Urbanik

Dear Folks,

On 26/11/08 13:12 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:

Is there any chance the keys were generated on one of those
Debian/Ubuntu systems that had the ssh key flaw last year?


No.


If a key was generated on those systems, my understanding is that
open ssh will reject it for security reasons.


Seems to be an selinux or Pam (or both?) problem.
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F10 system-config-services does not respond when enabling or disabling a service

2008-11-26 Thread tux
when i try to use system-config-services to enable a service it does not 
respond.


I am running KDE 4.1.3 on Fedora 10. this worked with no problems on F9. 
I was logged on as root.


i ran it from terminal and got the following error message:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 795, in 
on_serviceEnable_activate

service.enable ()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/slip/dbus/polkit.py", line 48, 
in enable_proxy_wrapper

return func (*p, **k)
  File 
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/services.py", 
line 64, in enable
self.dbus_object.enable (dbus_interface = 
"org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ChkconfigService")
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 140, in 
__call__

**keywords)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 630, 
in call_blocking

message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: 
org.fedoraproject.slip.dbus.service.PolKit.NotAuthorizedException.org.fedoraproject.config.services.manage:


as a workaround I used chkconfig to set things the way i wanted, however 
I thought someone might want to look at it. just in case.


Thanks.

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Fedora 10 install: Choosing additional repositories causes kernel panic

2008-11-26 Thread Alex Viskovatoff
On two different systems, on an i686 laptop and in VirtualBox running on 
an AMD64 OpenSolaris system, I was able to perform installation 
successfully, only to be greeted with this message when I tried to boot 
my newly installed Fedora system:


Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown 
block(0,0)


At first I thought that this was because I was using xfs for my root 
partition (actually logical volume), but the problem turned out to be 
caused by my choosing "Fedora" and "Fedora updates" as repositories in 
addition to the "installation repository".


Has someone used the additional repositories feature and not experienced 
this problem? This feature is described here:


http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/ch-packageselection.html#sn-additional-repos

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Re: HELP (RPM - what package a file is from)

2008-11-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Reg Clemens wrote:
> I posted this question several hours ago, but it has never shown up
> on the list,- here we go again...

It looks like the original message you sent was help up for moderation
because it matched mailman's "administrivia" filter (it had only the
word "help" on the first line of the message body).

Since you've gotten a few replies, I'll drop the original mail from
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Re: HELP (RPM - what package a file is from)

2008-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:00:09 -0700
Reg Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do I find out what RPM package a given file is from?
> I know I knew how to do this at one time, but Ive reread the RPM
> MAN page 3 times and I cant find the right magic.
> 
> In particular, I would like to know what package
> 
>   /usr/bin/htmlview

rpm -q -f /usr/bin/htmlview

What? You can't see the answer for the 47,621 other options
documented in the same man page? :-).

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Re: HELP (RPM - what package a file is from)

2008-11-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 22:00 -0700, Reg Clemens wrote:
> I posted this question several hours ago, but it has never shown up on 
> the list,- here we go again...
> 
> How do I find out what RPM package a given file is from?

rpm -qf 

> I know I knew how to do this at one time, but Ive reread the RPM
> MAN page 3 times and I cant find the right magic.

Look again ;)

> In particular, I would like to know what package
> 
>   /usr/bin/htmlview

rpm -qf /usr/bin/htmlview

will tell you.

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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Anne Wilson wrote:
>On Wednesday 26 November 2008 16:50:47 Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Fred Silsbee wrote:
>> >> > K3b is a piece of work...
>> >>
>> >> the presence of a bug (arguably here in kernel-space) does
>> >> not imply abondonment.
>> >
>> > The no verify ISO write is very very old!
>> > I remember it back when I was reporting to bugzilla!
>>
>> I'm aware of that.  All signs (still) point to a kernel issue, potentially
>> limited to certain brands/models of burners.
>
>That has to be the most likely explanation.  Here k3b verifies on some boxes
>but not on others.
>
Generally, I gave up on asking k3b to verify anything.  Why?  Because when its 
about to do the verify read, it ejects the disk and immediately pulls it back 
in.  Then it waits for the disk to be recognized by the drive NOT!  At that 
point it will kick out from the error, no disk in drive.  It would be nice if 
it would then ask you to put the disk back in the drive and click proceed 
when you have pushed the drawer closed again and given the drive time to 
recognize the disk as evidenced that the activity led has stopped blinking.

ISTR I even filed a bz on that 2, maybe 3 years ago, so far back up the log I 
expect the bz server has been wiped.  I sure don't recall the bz number.  And 
it was never acknowledged either.

k3b is a heck of a good proggy, and I fail to see why that hasn't been fixed 
years ago.  New eye candy, re-arrange the menu's etc has been done 2 or 3 
times now, but a simple lack of a time delay bug is too much trouble to fix I 
guess.

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ANT issue

2008-11-26 Thread Dinesh Gupta

Hi All,
   
I started migration from Window environment to Linux environment.

I installed Fedora 8 on my system.
I am a Java developer.I got stuck in ant.By default Fedora ship ant 1.7.xx.

But I want to use older version Ant 1.6.2.

Please tell me where how to install/remove/upgrade

Regards,
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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:41:32 +1300
Clint Dilks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Are you using PXE ?

No.  I just want to boot with a USB flash drive, in the same way that you can
write the boot.iso image to a cd and boot from that.

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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Norman Gaywood
I just succeeded in doing and NFS upgrade from F9 to F10. I made a CD
out of Fedora-10-i386-netinst.iso, booted that and at the grub menu:

  - Made sure install/upgrade existing system was selected
  - Hit TAB before the timeout
  - Appended this to the boot command line:
method=nfsiso:servername:/exported/dir/withiso
  - pressed enter

After answering the question about languages, keyboard and which interface
to use, it managed to upgrade my system without further input.

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HELP (RPM - what package a file is from)

2008-11-26 Thread Reg Clemens
I posted this question several hours ago, but it has never shown up on 
the list,- here we go again...

How do I find out what RPM package a given file is from?
I know I knew how to do this at one time, but Ive reread the RPM
MAN page 3 times and I cant find the right magic.

In particular, I would like to know what package

/usr/bin/htmlview

is in, so I can load that package in the OS in a different partition.
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F10: Lots of "issues"... Evolution, Synaptic (touch pad), Plasma (folder view)...

2008-11-26 Thread Linuxguy123
I installed F10 this afternoon as an upgrade from F8 using preupgrade.
That process went well.

I ran the F10 KDE Live all morning.   I didn't encounter any problems
with it, but I have lots of issues with F10 now that I have it
installed.

Here is a list of the problems I am having:

1) Evolution is asking for the passwords for all my mail accounts every
time I start it.  HUGE PAIN.  BTW: Evolution uses a new db.  It took
longer to re index my emails than it did to install F10 !

2) No spell checking in Evolution.  Rather spell checking is marking
every word as mis spelled.  Every word I am typing in this post is
underlined in red.

3) The synaptic touch pad configuration tool I had installed in F8
doesn't work in F10.  I can't turn the touchpad off on my laptop and
every time I brush my sleeve over it, the cursor moves when I don't want
it to.

4) Folder view is crashing/freezing my computer and I am getting Plasma
errors.  Something is messed up. 

5) Neither Konqueror nor Firefox nor Opera will view a youtube video due
to complaints about needing to install the latest flash plugin.  And I
already have.  Firefox works once in a while. 

6) Ark won't extract a single file from an archive.

All this and I've only been using F10 for a couple hours.

 

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RE: What is filesystem panic?

2008-11-26 Thread ????





- ??? -
???: "Rick Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
??: "Community assistance, encouragement,   and advice for using Fedora." 

: 08/10/31 3:47
??: Re: What is filesystem panic?

Per Anton Rønning wrote:
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>> Per Anton Rønning wrote:
>>> Rick Stevens wrote:
 Per Anton Rønning wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Per Anton Rønning wrote:
>>  
>>> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>>  
 Double check that you are accessing the correct device. USB drives
 do not always get "assigned" the same device. (It might get 
 assigned
 /dev/sdd instead of /dev/sdc for example.) If you are interested in
 the reasons for this, it should probably be a separate thread...

 Mikkel
 
>>> Oh yes, my processor is slow now. a df command shows this:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] trade]# df
>>> Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
>>> 718841144   8123212 674202912   2% /
>>> /dev/sda1   194442 44177140226  24% /boot
>>> tmpfs  194354848   1943500   1% /dev/shm
>>> /dev/ram015863   728 15135   5% /mnt/rd

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Re: Thumbs up for F9 -> F10 using preupgrade

2008-11-26 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 21:43 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Just wanted to share a success story using preupgrade.

Ditto, from F8.   I was going to write the same thing.   It went
excellently.  Well done.  Kudos to whomever thought up preupgrade.

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Re: Quest8ion about what backup util to use.

2008-11-26 Thread Les Mikesell

Steven W. Orr wrote:
I have a dirt simple backup scheme. I have a list of directories that 
I back up and they all get copied to a disk that was put in just for 
that purpose. I used to use something called flexbackup, but it 
occasionally had problems and it hasn't been supported in years.


I'd like to give it a conf file and have a full backup run of those 
dirs once a month and then have incrementals done on a daily basis. 
The resulting files should be somehow compressed and easy to access 
when needed.


(I go on the presumption that you only need your backup if you don't 
make it.)


Is there a favored util that will do what I want?


Backuppc is close.  It is really intended to back up multiple machines 
over a network with a web interface to browse and restore, but it will 
work locally and you can mount your extra disk in it's archive location.


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Re: Thumbs up for F9 -> F10 using preupgrade

2008-11-26 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 09:43:57 pm Richard Shaw wrote:
> Just wanted to share a success story using preupgrade. Although the
> download took quite a while everything went smoothly. My only question
> now is: Do I need to worry about the left over .fc9 packages? I've
> tried yum reinstall on them to get the .fc10 packages but doesn't seem
> to work. I even tried rpm -e on one but when I did a yum install it
> still picked up the .fc9 package.
>
> Should I just ignore them?
not every package was rebuilt during the Fedora 10 development cycle
yum list |grep .fc10|wc -l
8649
 yum list |grep .fc9|wc -l
2626
yum list |grep .fc8|wc -l
154

so packages that say fc9 in them are to be expected 

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Re: F-10 system-config-network problem

2008-11-26 Thread Deepak Shrestha
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Bob Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>
>> I've just installed from the F10 live cd.  It did not ask me for the
>> network setup information, I may have missed something with the sun shining
>> in on the screen?
>>
>> But I should be able to set it up with system-config-network.  I can enter
>> the data without a problem but it insists on changing  the subnet mask to
>> 192.168.1.1?
>>
>> Should be 192.168.1.7
>>
>> Sub. mask  255.255.255.0
>>
>> Def. gw192.169.1.1
>>
>> I save it and it comes up wrong.
>>
>> Nothing is changed in the hardware, F9 worked without a problem on it a
>> couple of hours ago.
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
> NETMASK was set wrong in  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> once corrected there it came up right in system-config-network.
>
> But who needs a tool that wont effect a change to correct an error?
>
> Bob
>
>

Hi, I was also mentioning the same just yesterday
(http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-November/msg02162.html).
Probably the same problem. You just confirmed it :-)

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Re: D-Link DGE-550SX (dl2k): WARNING: at net/sched/sch_generic.c:219 dev_watchdog+0xda/0x12d()

2008-11-26 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik

Roger Heflin wrote:

Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:

Hello,
we just upgraded our old router (Fedora Core 5 on AlphaServer 800,
kernel 2.6.17)
to new Fedora 10/2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 kernel on Core2Duo i686.

PCI-X Fiber 1000BASE-SX D-Link Network Adapter DGE-550SX, which worked
fine in
old Alphaserver, freeze on new machine few minutes after start (What
is interesting,
in one case after it sent exactly 8192 packets, an other cases are
some multiples
of 8 too) and stop transmit packets. Only workaround (but for a while)
is rmmod
+ modprobe its dl2k driver.


I would go post this to the kernel list, is is definitely some sort of
kernel interaction. From what I understand the sch_generic.c error means
that the networking driver has an issue with its hardware.

I don't believe there is a way to misconfigure things and get this.

On other network chipsets others have attempted to work around this sort
of issue by changing how the network chipset works (turning on/off tcp
offload, or other internal network chipset capabilities, and/or turning
off pause-things can be adjusted with ethtool). If you get the correct
feature turned off that is required to trigger the bug then it may work.

Keep in mind though that typically when you have a 32bit/33Mhz network
card it appears that the speed is limited to around 50MB/second each
way, even though the PCI bandwidth should be high enough to do
more.I don't know why this is, but I have seen it with several
different ethernet chipsets (tg3/e1000).



Hello Roger,

I sent this issue to LKML too (by that time without feedback).
About some tunning - we have only little time window every dat for it,
it is really problem. For now we will try some other optical fiber card.

And regarding to PCI card bandwidth - DGE-550SX is gigabit card, but
we use it for our internet connections, which is limited to approx.
50 Mb/sec by ISP, then I think there should be no bottleneck in LAN
card. Or some crappy machines within our LAN could be able overload
it?
But this same card in much slower Alphaserver work fine...

Franta Hanzlik

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Thumbs up for F9 -> F10 using preupgrade

2008-11-26 Thread Richard Shaw
Just wanted to share a success story using preupgrade. Although the
download took quite a while everything went smoothly. My only question
now is: Do I need to worry about the left over .fc9 packages? I've
tried yum reinstall on them to get the .fc10 packages but doesn't seem
to work. I even tried rpm -e on one but when I did a yum install it
still picked up the .fc9 package.

Should I just ignore them?

Thanks,
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Re: F10 pgp keys

2008-11-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>> The keys used are listed at https://fedoraproject.org/keys
>
> Perhaps I'm being a bit grumpy, but if someone goes and opens the
> home page, www.fedoraproject.org, and wants to download Fedora, how
> exactly would they be aware that the keys are here?

Currently, I don't think it's at all obvious.  I just happened to know
because I'd seen someone else mention the page and have since
submitted patches to try and improve it.

I thought that you'd follow the "Get Fedora" link on the left, and
that it would have a link to the verify page, which would then link to
the keys page.  But it seems that the get fedora page was streamlined
for the release.  Now you'd have to follow the "Show me all download
options in one page" to get to fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all,
which has the link to the verify page and the fedora.gpg file, but
still lacks the link to the keys page.

Some of these are issues that I fixed by creating a patch and
submitting a ticket to the fedora-web team.  Some of those patches
were not pushed into production yet because of the infrastructure
freeze.  Once the release is a few days old, that freeze should end
and the changes will get pushed.

The fedora websites page on the wiki has details on how to contact
them with suggestions: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites.

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Re: any program / script to connect to router to check status

2008-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:37:28 -0500 (EST)
chloe K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi 
>
>   Any program to connect to router to check status
>
>   I would like to output eg: sh int to file

I could swear I once setup a cron job to check my router and
send me mail if the IP address changed, but I can't seem to
find the script anymore. I believe I used lynx with the
-auth option to pass in the password the router's web
interface wanted, saved the lynx output to a file, and
parsed out the IP addr with perl. Something similar
is probably possible with curl as well.

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Re: does the DVD ISO for F10 ever change?

2008-11-26 Thread suvayu ali
2008/11/26 Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  A
> problem with that *may* be if the list was very long.
>

how about piping it to xargs ?

something like,

 | xargs yum -y install

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Re: F9 DOS attack

2008-11-26 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 19:56 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
> I don't run any servers.

Does that mean you don't use them, or that you've actually turned them
off?

> Makes me wonder what I did to provoke the attack

Possibly nothing.  For some victims, merely existing is reason enough.

Years ago, I used to notice increased firewall activity any time I made
a public posting.  I wasn't doing anything inflammatory, so I assume
that miscreants were monitoring the list to capture what they hoped were
currently in-use IP addresses.  These days, there's less point in doing
that, with always-on DSL and cable services, many of the IP addresses
will always be in-use.  Though the capturing idea does tend to identify
an IP address and the OS in use, which they might go looking for ones
with vulnerabilities that they know how to exploit.


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any program / script to connect to router to check status

2008-11-26 Thread chloe K
Hi 
   
  Any program to connect to router to check status
   
  I would like to output eg: sh int to file
   
  Thank you

   
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Re: F10 pgp keys

2008-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Todd Zullinger writes:


Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Feeding SHA1SUM from F10 to gpg results in a "public key not found"
complaint.

Which key signed F10's SHA1SUM, and where is that info on
www.fedoraproject.org?


The keys used are listed at https://fedoraproject.org/keys


Perhaps I'm being a bit grumpy, but if someone goes and opens the home page, 
www.fedoraproject.org, and wants to download Fedora, how exactly would they 
be aware that the keys are here?





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Re: Fedora 10 x86_64 install issues, bugzilla?

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


+1


I hate the increasing use of HTML docs instead of man pages. In old Unix
systems, man pages were concise, accurate and complete. Now we have
bloated, inaccurate, incomplete documentation that is hard to read and
hard to search. Large subsystems such as KDE have essentially no man
pages at all so you can't even read the docs without running a GUI.

I just updated Evolution, and by far the largest rpm was the help docs.
47 Megs for a set of poorly-indexed online help pages that doesn't even
cover all the features and has a barely functional search system, in
around 8 languages!


poc

  


Hah. Go check out gimp-help.

# yum install gimp-help
Total download size: 43 M
Is this ok [y/N]: LOL

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Re: yum update on F8 now hangs as of today

2008-11-26 Thread Fulko Hew
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Fulko Hew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For a variety of reasons, I'm still using F8 on my laptop.
> I've been keeping up-to-date whenever new packages appear.
>
> Today I see that there are a number of new packages:
>

... snip ...


> but yum hangs during the 'transaction test'
>
> CPU time goes to zero... there is no activity.
>
> I tried 'yum clean all'... no change.
> I tried yum install of only a single package, and it still hangs.
> I tried turning on debug:
>

... snip ...


> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>

Following up on my own message, I did an strace on yum
and see the following:

open("/etc/mtab", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 29
futex(0x50ab1c, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 2147483647) = 0
fstat64(29, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=379, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0xb7fa1000
read(29, "/dev/sda3 / ext3 rw 0 0\nproc /pr"..., 4096) = 379
stat64("/", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64("/proc", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0555, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
stat64("/sys", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
stat64("/dev/pts", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
stat64("/boot", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=3072, ...}) = 0
stat64("/dev/shm", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISVTX|0777, st_size=60, ...}) = 0
stat64("/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) =
0
stat64("/var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) =
0
stat64("/sys/fs/fuse/connections", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) =
0
stat64("/mnt/temp", ^C 


/mnt/temp was something I had NFS mounted earlier on today,
but I suspended my laptop and took it home, so the mountpoint
isn't valid right now.

So yum does a stat on all mountpoints, for some reason, and if they don't
exist, the OS hangs the process.  Who knows, it may eventually time out,
but life is/was too short to wait for timeout.
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Re: does the DVD ISO for F10 ever change?

2008-11-26 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 11:12 -0700, stan wrote:
> eg  rpm -qa > package-list.txt
>
> Edit this to make it a shell script with yum and run it.
>
> eg yum -y update  package name on each line.

An improvement could be to modify your package list text file to change
the line feeds to blank spaces, then feed that to one yum command.  A
problem with that *may* be if the list was very long.

Of course, if your next upgrade is an install, you could give that
package list to anaconda, and let it handle it.

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Re: ATrpms for Fedora 10; upcoming EOL for Fedora 8

2008-11-26 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 21:21 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> F10 support will be EOL'd once the Fedora Project drops support for it
> (e.g. in about a month's time).

Oh ye of little faith...  ;-)


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Re: F10 pgp keys

2008-11-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Feeding SHA1SUM from F10 to gpg results in a "public key not found"
> complaint.
>
> Which key signed F10's SHA1SUM, and where is that info on
> www.fedoraproject.org?

The keys used are listed at https://fedoraproject.org/keys

There is also the path at https://fedoraproject.org/verify, which is
not yet updated for F10.  (I sent a patch to update it, but it didn't
make it in before the infrastructure was frozen for translation and
the release.  It should get updated soon though.)

You can, however, fetch the current fedora.gpg file linked on the
verify page.  It has been updated with the F10 keys.

https://fedoraproject.org/static/fedora.gpg

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Re: Fedora 10 x86_64 install issues, bugzilla?

2008-11-26 Thread stan

Paul W. Frields wrote:





There used to be a "Release Notes" button in Anaconda.  However, very
few people used it, and the amount of code that we had to carry in the
installer image to support it (like an HTML viewer) was large and
unwieldy, especially hurting people who were trying to download a
minimal image to install over a network/the Internet.



Must be people like me. ;-)

I won't bother putting in a bugzilla.  Actually, once I read 
the release notes, I got a few pieces of interest out of them.


The install went smooth as silk with the ext4 on the command 
line.  The remodelling is going to be a chore for a while 
though.


Thanks for your help.

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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Alex Viskovatoff
I had exactly the same problem. The instructions for "NFS Installation 
and Setup" are apparently incomplete. If you look at the instructions 
for "Installation from a Hard Drive", however


http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-installing-from-harddrive.html

they say that "the install.img file from within the ISO files must be 
copied to a directory named 'images'" inside the directory with the ISO 
files. I tried that, and the installation proceeded. (And that's with an 
NFS server running OpenSolaris.) I'm using separate CD-ROM ISOs btw, not 
the DVD ISO.


(Unfortunately, when I tried to boot the newly installed system, I got 
the following message: "Kernel panic - not syncing". I don't know what 
that's about.)


Frank Cox wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:52:56 +1300
Clint Dilks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I cant remember the specific details myself but I believe the release 
notes mention some changes you need to make if you are doing NFS based 
installs so you may want to check there.


I checked earlier and just did so again.  I don't see anything there that's
applicable. It tells me how to create a live-cd flash drive, but that's not
what I had in mind.



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Re: root login

2008-11-26 Thread g
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bruce wrote:

> not sure who you are, nor am i sure i understand your remarks. if your
> feelings are hurt, don't take it personally.

reset assured, it would take more than your comments to hurt my feelings.
nor do i take them personally, other than;

i do take them as being towards me as your comments #1 [see below, as
you seem to prefer to top post] states 'keep telling ...'.

so why even bother to post what you did, as you did?

> the fact, your approach wasn't the issue the guy was dealing with.
> would it have harmed his system, no. was it the issue, again, no.

issue was that he could not log in as root, so main intent was to get bruce
into his system with as little in his way as possible, ie, a desktop login.

> unless you "know"/trust the person giveing the advice, or unless
> you see it from a number of different people,

and your advice of 'Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:51:32 -0800' to edit
'/etc/pam.d', which is a directory, which i have already stated in another
post, is giving good advice?

as for good advice, that was provided by tom horsley, which i did not see
until after i replied to nick's 'text/html' post in my 'html' mbox and
changed to my text only 'inbox'.

> i would argue that
> you should take anything with a huge assed grain of salt!

argue all you wish. i am just making comments. as for salt, i do not
even use it on food.

> relax, have some turkey!

i am very relaxed. and, i will have a most enjoyable 'big bird day' tomorrow.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of g
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:40 PM
> To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
> Subject: Re: root login
> 
> bruce wrote:
#1)
>> not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file...
> 
> good. if you do not know then those of us who do will continue to
> keep it a secret.
#2)
>> moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you don't know!!!
> 
> you can keep your reason for being snide a secret too.


peace out.

tc,hago.

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F10 pgp keys

2008-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Feeding SHA1SUM from F10 to gpg results in a "public key not found" 
complaint.


Which key signed F10's SHA1SUM, and where is that info on 
www.fedoraproject.org?





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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Fred Silsbee



--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Jose Celestino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Jose Celestino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: has K3B been abandoned?
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 12:12 AM
> Words by Arthur Pemberton [Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 04:49:47PM
> -0600]:
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Phil Meyer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Fred Silsbee wrote:
> > >>
> > >> --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Rex Dieter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Rex Dieter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> Subject: Re: has K3B been abandoned?
> > >>> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> > >>> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 8:23
> PM
> > >>> Fred Silsbee wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > 
> >  THIS is why I no longer post to
> bugzilla!
> >  Ignore it and it will go away!
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>> Relax.
> > >>>
> > >>> No one is ignoring it.  It's *hard*. 
> Hard problems
> > >>> take time and energy to
> > >>> solve.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unfortunately, I don't know how to
> fix it.  Do you?
> > >>>
> > >>> -- Rex
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> > >>
> > >> Yes! I have dual boot! I'll switch to
> Bill Gate's XP Prof and do it there
> > >>
> > >> sorry to have troubled you!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Just a quick query ...
> > >
> > > Why not just bring up nautilus or equiv in KDE,
> right click .iso, and burn
> > > ??
> > >
> > > Most folks stopped using K3B when that
> functionality was added to the file
> > > browsers.
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > 
> > 
> > KDE users use K3B.
> > 
> 
> Hell. Even Gnome users use K3B. I changed to Gnome some
> months ago and I
> can't let go of many KDE apps, K3B has no rival (the
> other apps are, if
> you want to know, amarok, digikam and gwenview).
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thanks I'll try that!

tried Nautilus and had the identical problem





  


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F10 and Grub boot problem

2008-11-26 Thread Ed Gurski
I upgraded to F10, which went smoothly except for the reboot. All I got
was multiple GRUB's that kept filling up the screen but no boot.

I then tried to do the upgrade again and thought I needed to upgrade
GRUB (which I selected initially), but still the same result.

So, I did an upgrade again, but this time I said I wanted to change my
boot loader to GRUB again, and this resolved my problem.

This is just a heads-up for others who may experience the same
problem...

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yum update on F8 now hangs as of today

2008-11-26 Thread Fulko Hew
For a variety of reasons, I'm still using F8 on my laptop.
I've been keeping up-to-date whenever new packages appear.

Today I see that there are a number of new packages:


 Package  Arch Version Repository
Size

Updating:
 e2fsprogsi386 1.40.4-3.fc8updates-newkey
610 k
 e2fsprogs-devel  i386 1.40.4-3.fc8updates-newkey
644 k
 e2fsprogs-libs   i386 1.40.4-3.fc8updates-newkey
138 k
 imlib2   i386 1.4.2-2.fc8 updates-newkey
569 k
 perl-Data-Dump   noarch   1.11-1.fc8  updates-newkey
20 k
 selinux-policy   noarch   3.0.8-127.fc8   updates-newkey
424 k
 selinux-policy-devel noarch   3.0.8-127.fc8   updates-newkey
549 k
 selinux-policy-targeted  noarch   3.0.8-127.fc8   updates-newkey
1.7 M
 xscreensaver-basei386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey
506 k
 xscreensaver-extras  i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey
3.6 M
 xscreensaver-extras-gss  i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey
57 k
 xscreensaver-gl-base i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey
35 k
 xscreensaver-gl-extras   i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey
3.8 M
 xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss   i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey
43 k

but yum hangs during the 'transaction test'

CPU time goes to zero... there is no activity.

I tried 'yum clean all'... no change.
I tried yum install of only a single package, and it still hangs.
I tried turning on debug:
   yum -d 10 update "imlib2"
and the last few lines are:

.
.
.


 PackageArch Version Repository
Size

Updating:
 imlib2 i386 1.4.2-2.fc8 updates-newkey
569 k

Transaction Summary

Install  0 Package(s)
Update   1 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)

Total size: 569 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
using local copy of imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc8.i386
Running rpm_check_debug
Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-2.fc8 - u
Adding Package imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc8.i386 in mode u
Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-1.fc8 - None
rpm_check_debug time: 0.126
Running Transaction Test
Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-2.fc8 - u
Adding Package imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc8.i386 in mode u
Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-1.fc8 - None

Since I just received notice that all outstanding bugzilla entries against
F8
are about to be deleted, there is no point in submitting one.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

TIA
Fulko
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Re: F9 DOS attack

2008-11-26 Thread Dave Feustel
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:25:26AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 06:54 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
> > I spoke with a Comcast technician yesterday. He said there was nothing
> > Comcast could do and that the problem was that the 'bomber' was able
> > to get my ip address by scanning my system. That seems inconsistent to
> > me.
> 
> If you're chatting with your ISP, I'd ask them if it's just you being
> flooded, or a range of their IP addresses.  Then you'll know if you're a
> direct target.  If they can't work that out, they're hopeless.
> 
> As far as security goes, turn off the services you don't need.  And
> configure the ones that you do need, to not listen to the outside world
> unnecessarily (secure the services properly, don't rely on a firewall to
> stand in the way).  Then, add a firewall to your mix.  It's an extra
> layer, not the only thing you should use in your defence.

I don't run any servers. My total activity is email, browsing, and RSS.
I don't even use ssh. Makes me wonder what I did to provoke the attack
(assuming that the attack was specifically directed at me.)
 
> Attempts to crack into your system over SSH, for instance, will be water
> off a duck's back if you don't have an SSH server running, or it never
> listens to the world interface.
> 
> -- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
> 
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
> 
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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Jose Celestino
Words by Arthur Pemberton [Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 06:31:25PM -0600]:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Jose Celestino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hell. Even Gnome users use K3B. I changed to Gnome some months ago
> 
> TRAITOR!!
> 

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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Jose Celestino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hell. Even Gnome users use K3B. I changed to Gnome some months ago

TRAITOR!!


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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Jose Celestino
Words by Arthur Pemberton [Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 04:49:47PM -0600]:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Phil Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fred Silsbee wrote:
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> From: Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Subject: Re: has K3B been abandoned?
> >>> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> >>> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 8:23 PM
> >>> Fred Silsbee wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> 
>  THIS is why I no longer post to bugzilla!
>  Ignore it and it will go away!
> 
> >>>
> >>> Relax.
> >>>
> >>> No one is ignoring it.  It's *hard*.  Hard problems
> >>> take time and energy to
> >>> solve.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix it.  Do you?
> >>>
> >>> -- Rex
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> >>
> >> Yes! I have dual boot! I'll switch to Bill Gate's XP Prof and do it there
> >>
> >> sorry to have troubled you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Just a quick query ...
> >
> > Why not just bring up nautilus or equiv in KDE, right click .iso, and burn
> > ??
> >
> > Most folks stopped using K3B when that functionality was added to the file
> > browsers.
> >
> > Good Luck!
> 
> 
> KDE users use K3B.
> 

Hell. Even Gnome users use K3B. I changed to Gnome some months ago and I
can't let go of many KDE apps, K3B has no rival (the other apps are, if
you want to know, amarok, digikam and gwenview).

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Re: Fedora 10 x86_64 install issues, bugzilla?

2008-11-26 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 27/11/08 00:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> That is a consistent problem in Linux. Everything except for MAN pages 
>> require tons of libraries, fonts, and too many supporting binaries. 
>> Linux needs a lightweight documentation system that works in both CLI 
>> and GUI environments.
>>
>> Proposed Fedora Feature: Revolutionary, Lightweight Documentation System
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> I hate the increasing use of HTML docs instead of man pages. In old Unix
> systems, man pages were concise, accurate and complete. Now we have
> bloated, inaccurate, incomplete documentation that is hard to read and
> hard to search. Large subsystems such as KDE have essentially no man
> pages at all so you can't even read the docs without running a GUI.
> 
> I just updated Evolution, and by far the largest rpm was the help docs.
> 47 Megs for a set of poorly-indexed online help pages that doesn't even
> cover all the features and has a barely functional search system, in
> around 8 languages!
> 

Amen.

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RE: F9 DOS attack

2008-11-26 Thread bruce
yes.. vitalstream!! that was it, with internap...

hey.. is the email address at the bottom valid for you?

-bruce


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:34 PM
To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: F9 DOS attack


bruce wrote:
> hey rick...
>
> are you the same rick, who used to work with a company in san mateo.. that
> used to deal with akamai...

A couple of friends and I founded "SiteStream" in '99.  In '01 we merged
with another company and renamed the new beast "VitalStream", which was
an Akamai (and SpeedEra) competitor.  We were based in Irvine in SoCal
(San Mateo is in NoCal).

VitalStream was acquired by Internap in February of '06 and they've made
a sad hash of what was a great company.  I left there in April of '08 as
I couldn't stand to watch my baby abused the way it was any longer.
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Re: problem with color (ICC) profiles in Fedora 10

2008-11-26 Thread Alberto Ferrante

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I wish it was like that :-)
I was using the same profile before the upgrade and I could see a
noticeable difference when the calibration profile was loaded.
I also tried on Fedora 10 to load another profile for a different
monitor and it did not have any effect.
I also tried the vesa driver instead of the radeon one, and the effect
is the same (except that dispwin complains about xrand being broken in
this case).

Regards,
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| it to a worse one or mess with the adjustments and you should
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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Clint Dilks

Frank Cox wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:52:56 +1300
Clint Dilks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
I cant remember the specific details myself but I believe the release 
notes mention some changes you need to make if you are doing NFS based 
installs so you may want to check there.



I checked earlier and just did so again.  I don't see anything there that's
applicable. It tells me how to create a live-cd flash drive, but that's not
what I had in mind.

  

Are you using PXE ?

It was this that I was referring to


   2.1.3. Installation related issues


 2.1.3.1. PXE booting from a |.iso|

When PXE booting and using a |.iso| file mounted via NFS for the 
installation media, add *|method=nfsiso:server:/path|* to the command 
line. This is a new requirement.




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Re: Fedora 10 x86_64 install issues, bugzilla?

2008-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 17:00 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: 
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >
> > There used to be a "Release Notes" button in Anaconda.  However, very
> > few people used it, and the amount of code that we had to carry in the
> > installer image to support it (like an HTML viewer) was large and
> > unwieldy, especially hurting people who were trying to download a
> > minimal image to install over a network/the Internet.
> >
> >   
> That is a consistent problem in Linux. Everything except for MAN pages 
> require tons of libraries, fonts, and too many supporting binaries. 
> Linux needs a lightweight documentation system that works in both CLI 
> and GUI environments.
> 
> Proposed Fedora Feature: Revolutionary, Lightweight Documentation System

+1


I hate the increasing use of HTML docs instead of man pages. In old Unix
systems, man pages were concise, accurate and complete. Now we have
bloated, inaccurate, incomplete documentation that is hard to read and
hard to search. Large subsystems such as KDE have essentially no man
pages at all so you can't even read the docs without running a GUI.

I just updated Evolution, and by far the largest rpm was the help docs.
47 Megs for a set of poorly-indexed online help pages that doesn't even
cover all the features and has a barely functional search system, in
around 8 languages!


poc

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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Fred Silsbee



--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Tom Horsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Tom Horsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: has K3B been abandoned?
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 10:53 PM
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:23:11 -0600
> Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix it.  Do
> you?
> 
> Yes: go back to the old dvd drivers which were apparently
> changed for no reason, because they didn't have this
> bug,
> and if the change fixed some other problem it was a
> much rarer and hard to encounter one, so we are better
> off with the old bug than the new one :-).
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somewhere on today's post I was informed K3B was abandoned due to new features 
in the  file managers.


  

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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:52:56 +1300
Clint Dilks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cant remember the specific details myself but I believe the release 
> notes mention some changes you need to make if you are doing NFS based 
> installs so you may want to check there.

I checked earlier and just did so again.  I don't see anything there that's
applicable. It tells me how to create a live-cd flash drive, but that's not
what I had in mind.

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Re: With F10, no graphical boot mode

2008-11-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
Hi Paul,

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:06:55PM +, Paul Smith wrote:
> 
> After having upgraded from F9 to F10, the boot is performed in text
> mode. How can I restore the graphical boot mode?

This means the new Plymouth boot system may not support your card --
yet -- in all its graphical glory.

You can try this, but keep in mind it is not guaranteed to work, and
in fact may keep you from booting properly.

Hold down the Ctrl key during booting to bring up the GRUB menu.  Hit
[e] to edit the GRUB configuration, arrow down to the "kernel" line,
and hit [e] to edit that.  Add the text " vga=0x317" to the end to
force a framebuffer mode that may work (you might want to try 0x318 on
some systems).  Then hit [Enter] to accept the temporary change, and
hit [b] to boot.

If it works, edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file (as root) to add this
change if you want to keep it.  But be aware that for a few people it
causes problems.  However, I used it constantly on a laptop with Intel
945GM graphics card with no ill effects.

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Re: Quest8ion about what backup util to use.

2008-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 17:30 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> I have a dirt simple backup scheme. I have a list of directories that I 
> back up and they all get copied to a disk that was put in just for that 
> purpose. I used to use something called flexbackup, but it occasionally 
> had problems and it hasn't been supported in years.
> 
> I'd like to give it a conf file and have a full backup run of those dirs 
> once a month and then have incrementals done on a daily basis. The 
> resulting files should be somehow compressed and easy to access when 
> needed.
> 
> (I go on the presumption that you only need your backup if you don't make 
> it.)
> 
> Is there a favored util that will do what I want?

rsnapshot (yum install rsnapshot). Uses rsync and hard links for
efficient incremental backups.

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Re: Fedora 10 x86_64 install issues, bugzilla?

2008-11-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:00:47PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>
>> There used to be a "Release Notes" button in Anaconda.  However, very
>> few people used it, and the amount of code that we had to carry in the
>> installer image to support it (like an HTML viewer) was large and
>> unwieldy, especially hurting people who were trying to download a
>> minimal image to install over a network/the Internet.
>>
>>   
> That is a consistent problem in Linux. Everything except for MAN pages  
> require tons of libraries, fonts, and too many supporting binaries.  
> Linux needs a lightweight documentation system that works in both CLI  
> and GUI environments.

It's not the content itself that's the problem.  It's the viewer.  In
this case the release notes were in HTML, so it takes that extra
library support to understand how to parse it and then display it in a
way that makes sense (like making headers large, code snippets in
fixed-width fonts, etc.).

Of course, none of this changes the fact that no one used the button
anyway.  (You're obviously an exception, but I promise you, you're a
rare case.) ;-)

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Re: weigh in if you have or have had the iso dvd burn no verify problem

2008-11-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:10:06PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Fred Silsbee wrote:
>> --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
> [snip]
 You should state how you are burning. The program
>>> name. Disc type, (DL or not) and ISO type (Fedora 10 image?
>>> or your own?)
 If you're talking about Brasero, yes, I have this
>>> issue all the time. In fact I've also seen it with
>>> nautilus. Sometimes the DVD will get ejected  after burning
>>> and sometimes it will be ejected, then the door will close
>>> automatically and immediately. Even for the exact same ISO
>>> file. There is no logic to it.
>>>
>>> I think this is a race condition between the automounter
>>> and the burning
>>> software:  the burner resets the drive (thereby doing the
>>> eject), then
>>> it reloads the drive but Gnome or whatever is grabbing it
>>> before the
>>> burner code can.  Perhaps disabling the automount would fix
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Just an idea to try.
>>
>> How does one  "disabling the automount"
>
> If you're using Gnome, open the "System" menu, then go to
> "Preferences-->Personal-->File Management" and open the "Media" tab.
> You can select actions for the various kind of removable media.  Either
> set each to "Do Nothing" or select the "Never prompt or start programs  
> on media insertion" option near the bottom.
>
> In KDE, I don't know, but I'm sure there's something similar.

I just burnt the DVD ISO today (one i386, one x86_64) and my automount
is on (like the default).  It didn't cause any problem here, so you
may have a particular hardware issue that might produce a useful bug
entry.

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Re: Playing CDs in F10 fails

2008-11-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
Hello Joachim,

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 08:01:41PM +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> 
> after upgrading to F10, any try to play music CDs fails with each
> player tool: rhythmbox, gmplayer, realplayer, ...  I have 2 kinds of
> cd drives: external USB and internal IDE. Both fail to play CD.  But
> if I copy any track to some directory, I can play such a wav file.
> All F10 updates have been applied.  Somebody made similar
> experiences?

When I inserted a music CD in my player, I received a prompt as
expected, opened Rhythmbox, and when I selected "Play" for the CD it
played as expected.  Could this be a specific hardware-related bug?

You don't mention exactly how it fails.  If you could be more precise,
it would help people who are trying to diagnose your problem.

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With F10, no graphical boot mode

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All,

After having upgraded from F9 to F10, the boot is performed in text
mode. How can I restore the graphical boot mode?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

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Re: Shortcut to computer:

2008-11-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 06:14:15PM +, Iarly Selbir wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is possible add a custom shortcut to "computer:" Window on Gnome, I have a
> folder and I wanted add a shortcut on this , because today only devices
> appears.

I usually install gconf-editor, and then edit the global-keybindings
and commands in /apps/metacity to do this.  The command you want is:

nautilus --no-desktop computer:///

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Re: Fedora 10 x86_64 install issues, bugzilla?

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth

Paul W. Frields wrote:


There used to be a "Release Notes" button in Anaconda.  However, very
few people used it, and the amount of code that we had to carry in the
installer image to support it (like an HTML viewer) was large and
unwieldy, especially hurting people who were trying to download a
minimal image to install over a network/the Internet.

  
That is a consistent problem in Linux. Everything except for MAN pages 
require tons of libraries, fonts, and too many supporting binaries. 
Linux needs a lightweight documentation system that works in both CLI 
and GUI environments.


Proposed Fedora Feature: Revolutionary, Lightweight Documentation System


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Re: Playing CDs in F10 fails

2008-11-26 Thread Antonio M
2008/11/26 Joachim Backes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> after upgrading to F10, any try to play music CDs fails with each player
> tool: rhythmbox, gmplayer, realplayer, ...
>
> I have 2 kinds of cd drives: external USB and internal IDE. Both fail to
> play CD.
>
> But if I copy any track to some directory, I can play such a wav file.
>
> All F10 updates have been applied.
>
> Somebody made similar experiences?
>
> Regards
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CD are played fine by Rhythmbox hereand also by Gnome Mplayer

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Time setting problem

2008-11-26 Thread Dan Ciarniello
I have installed the F10 KDE live cd on a USB stick using the 
livecd-iso-to disk utility.  I also added an overlay for persistence.


I have run in to a problem in setting the time.  There are two scenarios 
but I am not sure whether they are related.


1. When using the Date/Time settings tool to change the time zone, the 
new time zoning setting does not immediately take effect even though the 
tool shows that it is contacting an NTP server.  The time does not 
actually change until a few minutes later.


2. When I reboot the system, the initially displayed time is incorrect. 
 After three or four minutes, the time resets to the correct value. 
I've looked in /var/log/messages and it looks like ntp comes up and 
tries to contact a time server before the network comes up.  It then 
retries a few minutes later by which time the network is up and a time 
server is available.


The second scenario looks like it might be related to the new faster 
booting in that things are done in the wrong order but what about the 
first?  Is this just an issue related to the live CD?  I am thinking 
about filing a bug but I would like some feedback from the list before I 
do so.


Thanks,
Dan.

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Re: F10's name ??

2008-11-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:14:56AM -0800, Globe Trotter wrote:
> 
> btw, i may be misremembering, but wasn't FC1 named Cambridge? Maybe
> tis the American city?:-)

Cambridge was the internal proposed release name for Red Hat Linux 10,
which evaporated in favor of Fedora Core 1 ("Yarrow").

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Re: Fedora 10 x86_64 install issues, bugzilla?

2008-11-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:25:45AM -0700, stan wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:10:13AM -0700, stan wrote:
>>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 09:48:39AM -0700, stan wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>
>> My apologies Stan, I forgot to mention that you need to hold down a
>> key during boot -- most people use Ctrl -- to get the screen where you
>> can enter parameters.  (That's in the release notes too, but
>> regardless...)
>>
>>
> Thanks.  I know, RTFM, but usually things just work (TM) so it is 
> tempting to just run with it.  :-)
>
> On that note, I don't recall the DVD install asking if I would like to 
> read the notes.  Is there something I do to see that?  I'll go to the 
> Fedora download site to read them.  I got the DVD off usenet and that 
> wasn't part of it. Maybe it should be in Anaconda to ask that?  Bugzilla?

There used to be a "Release Notes" button in Anaconda.  However, very
few people used it, and the amount of code that we had to carry in the
installer image to support it (like an HTML viewer) was large and
unwieldy, especially hurting people who were trying to download a
minimal image to install over a network/the Internet.

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Re: add to list

2008-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>> You need to visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list to
>> subscribe or unsubscribe
>
> If he's not on the list already, he's going to have to read your
> response in an archive   B^)
>
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the email posted to the list.   Included the list to indicated someone
did help the poor fellow.  FWIW,  he did respond to me with a reply
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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:23:11 -0600
Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix it.  Do you?

Yes: go back to the old dvd drivers which were apparently
changed for no reason, because they didn't have this bug,
and if the change fixed some other problem it was a
much rarer and hard to encounter one, so we are better
off with the old bug than the new one :-).

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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Clint Dilks

Frank Cox wrote:

Two related questions:

I created a bootable CD from images/boot.iso on the F10 DVD iso.  I put the
iso file on my fileserver, then booted from the bootable CD that I just created
and told the installer to do a NFS install and pointed it to the directory on
my fileserver where the iso image was.  It complained that it can't find the
files and keeps adding "images/install.img" to the path that I entered.
Therefore, I'm thinking that the nfs installer can no longer look inside of the
iso image to find the files but I will now have to copy the files out onto a
real directory on the fileserver so the installer can find them.  The nfs
installer used to be smart enough to just look inside of the iso, so has that
capability gone away?

Second, there used to be a file called images/diskboot.img that you could just
copy to a usb flash drive using dd which you could then boot from to do a nfs
install.  That file seems to no longer be present.  I would prefer not to have
to install from a live image but rather to just do a "regular" nfs install from
my fileserver, so how can I create a bootable usb flash drive to make that
happen?

  

Hi Frank,

I cant remember the specific details myself but I believe the release 
notes mention some changes you need to make if you are doing NFS based 
installs so you may want to check there.


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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> # dir  /etc/yum.repos.d/
>>> adobe-linux-i386.repo   pptp.repo
>>> CRAN.repo   remi.repo
>>> endurs_i686.reporpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
>>> fedora-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free.repo
>>> fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
>>> fedora-updates-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
>>> fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
>>> fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
>>> fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
>>> freshrpms.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
>>> google.repo texlive.repo
>>
>> You shouldn't have the newkey repositories - they were for F8 or F9 only to
>> work around a possibly compromised signing key - is the old fedora-release
>> package still installed, or are they files no longer owned by a package?
>> rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-newkey.repo
>> will tell you if an rpm still claims the file.
>
> Thanks again. Getting the following:
>
> # rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-newkey.repo
> fedora-release-9-5.transition.noarch
> #

After having removed fedora-release-9-5.transition.noarch, the problem
was solved.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:33:21 -0600
Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the presence of a bug (arguably here in kernel-space) does not imply
> abondonment.

Yea, but there is clearly something strange going on
because the latest bug I see is k3b ejecting the media
then not being able to reload it, yet on the same system
with the same kernel and same drive, the "eject -T"
command is perfectly capable of ejecting and closing
the tray.

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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Phil Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fred Silsbee wrote:
>>
>> --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> From: Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: has K3B been abandoned?
>>> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 8:23 PM
>>> Fred Silsbee wrote:
>>>
>>>

 THIS is why I no longer post to bugzilla!
 Ignore it and it will go away!

>>>
>>> Relax.
>>>
>>> No one is ignoring it.  It's *hard*.  Hard problems
>>> take time and energy to
>>> solve.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix it.  Do you?
>>>
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>>
>> Yes! I have dual boot! I'll switch to Bill Gate's XP Prof and do it there
>>
>> sorry to have troubled you!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Just a quick query ...
>
> Why not just bring up nautilus or equiv in KDE, right click .iso, and burn
> ??
>
> Most folks stopped using K3B when that functionality was added to the file
> browsers.
>
> Good Luck!


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Puzzeled !!! Boot Partition

2008-11-26 Thread Jim

I' m making a ;

/boot
/
/home
swap

Partitions for my new install of FC10, but when I finish creating  
partitions it wants to select sda2 /
instead of sda1  /boot  partition to boot off of,  why isn't it 
selecting sda1 instead.

What am I doing wrong ??

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F10 nfs installs

2008-11-26 Thread Frank Cox
Two related questions:

I created a bootable CD from images/boot.iso on the F10 DVD iso.  I put the
iso file on my fileserver, then booted from the bootable CD that I just created
and told the installer to do a NFS install and pointed it to the directory on
my fileserver where the iso image was.  It complained that it can't find the
files and keeps adding "images/install.img" to the path that I entered.
Therefore, I'm thinking that the nfs installer can no longer look inside of the
iso image to find the files but I will now have to copy the files out onto a
real directory on the fileserver so the installer can find them.  The nfs
installer used to be smart enough to just look inside of the iso, so has that
capability gone away?

Second, there used to be a file called images/diskboot.img that you could just
copy to a usb flash drive using dd which you could then boot from to do a nfs
install.  That file seems to no longer be present.  I would prefer not to have
to install from a live image but rather to just do a "regular" nfs install from
my fileserver, so how can I create a bootable usb flash drive to make that
happen?

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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:31 PM, M A Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> # dir  /etc/yum.repos.d/
>> adobe-linux-i386.repo   pptp.repo
>> CRAN.repo   remi.repo
>> endurs_i686.reporpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
>> fedora-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free.repo
>> fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
>> fedora-updates-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
>> fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
>> fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
>> fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
>> freshrpms.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
>> google.repo texlive.repo
>
> You shouldn't have the newkey repositories - they were for F8 or F9 only to
> work around a possibly compromised signing key - is the old fedora-release
> package still installed, or are they files no longer owned by a package?
> rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-newkey.repo
> will tell you if an rpm still claims the file.

Thanks again. Getting the following:

# rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-newkey.repo
fedora-release-9-5.transition.noarch
#

Paul

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Re: F9 DOS attack

2008-11-26 Thread Rick Stevens

bruce wrote:

hey rick...

are you the same rick, who used to work with a company in san mateo.. that
used to deal with akamai...


A couple of friends and I founded "SiteStream" in '99.  In '01 we merged
with another company and renamed the new beast "VitalStream", which was
an Akamai (and SpeedEra) competitor.  We were based in Irvine in SoCal
(San Mateo is in NoCal).

VitalStream was acquired by Internap in February of '06 and they've made
a sad hash of what was a great company.  I left there in April of '08 as
I couldn't stand to watch my baby abused the way it was any longer.
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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread M A Young

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Paul Smith wrote:


# dir  /etc/yum.repos.d/
adobe-linux-i386.repo   pptp.repo
CRAN.repo   remi.repo
endurs_i686.reporpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
fedora-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free.repo
fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
fedora-updates-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
freshrpms.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
google.repo texlive.repo


You shouldn't have the newkey repositories - they were for F8 or F9 only 
to work around a possibly compromised signing key - is the old 
fedora-release package still installed, or are they files no longer owned 
by a package?

rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-newkey.repo
will tell you if an rpm still claims the file.

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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?

Try
yum clean all
then try yum update again. I am guessing you have old metadata in your yum
cache.

Thanks, but no progress with

yum clean all

Moreover, no fedora.repo.rpmnew:

# dir  /etc/yum.repos.d/
adobe-linux-i386.repo   pptp.repo
CRAN.repo   remi.repo
endurs_i686.reporpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
fedora-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free.repo
fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
fedora-updates-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
freshrpms.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
google.repo texlive.repo
#

Let me add that I have upgraded from F9 to F10 with

Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso


And it tries to install the following rpms:

===
 Package   Arch Version RepositorySize
===
Updating:
 PyKDE4i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   4.1 M
 imlib2i386 1.4.2-2.fc9 updates-newkey   575 k
 kdeaccessibility  i386 1:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   6.3 M
 kdeartworki386 4.1.3-2.fc9 updates-newkey   4.7 M
 kdebase   i386 6:4.1.3-2.fc9   updates-newkey   5.7 M
 kdebase-libs  i386 6:4.1.3-2.fc9   updates-newkey   266 k
 kdebase-runtime   i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   5.7 M
 kdebase-runtime-libs  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   680 k
 kdebase-workspace i386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey10 M
 kdebase-workspace-devel   i386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey   186 k
 kdebase-workspace-libsi386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey   1.1 M
 kdegames  i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey28 M
 kdegames-libs i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   614 k
 kdegraphics   i386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9.1 updates-newkey   2.4 M
 kdegraphics-libs  i386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9.1 updates-newkey   1.7 M
 kdelibs   i386 6:4.1.3-3.fc9   updates-newkey12 M
 kdelibs-commoni386 6:4.1.3-3.fc9   updates-newkey   261 k
 kdelibs-devel i386 6:4.1.3-3.fc9   updates-newkey   1.6 M
 kdemultimedia i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   1.6 M
 kdemultimedia-devel   i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey16 k
 kdemultimedia-libsi386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   312 k
 kdenetworki386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   7.9 M
 kdenetwork-libs   i386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   2.0 M
 kdepimlibsi386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   2.4 M
 kdepimlibs-devel  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   324 k
 kdeplasma-addons  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   1.0 M
 kdesdki386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   6.8 M
 kdesdk-libs   i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   283 k
 kdesdk-utils  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   258 k
 kdeutils  i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   3.1 M
 ksysguarddi386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey66 k
 libv4li386 0.5.6-1.fc9 updates-newkey71 k
 oxygen-icon-theme noarch   4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey13 M
 phonon-backend-xine   i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   131 k
 qti386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey   3.5 M
 qt-devel  i386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey   7.0 M
 qt-mysql  i386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey46 k
 qt-x11i386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey12 M
 setroubleshootnoarch   2.0.12-4.fc9updates-newkey   121 k
 setroubleshoot-server noarch   2.0.12-4.fc9updates-newkey   1.3 M
 xscreensaver  i386 1:5.07-3.fc9updates-newkey25 k
 xscreensaver-base i386 1:5.07-3.fc9updates-newkey   508 k
 xscreensaver-extras   i386 1:5.07-3.fc9updates-newkey   3.7 M
 xscreensaver-gl-base  i386 1:5.07-3.fc9updates-newkey35 k
 xscreensaver-gl-extrasi386 1:5.07

Quest8ion about what backup util to use.

2008-11-26 Thread Steven W. Orr
I have a dirt simple backup scheme. I have a list of directories that I 
back up and they all get copied to a disk that was put in just for that 
purpose. I used to use something called flexbackup, but it occasionally 
had problems and it hasn't been supported in years.


I'd like to give it a conf file and have a full backup run of those dirs 
once a month and then have incrementals done on a daily basis. The 
resulting files should be somehow compressed and easy to access when 
needed.


(I go on the presumption that you only need your backup if you don't make 
it.)


Is there a favored util that will do what I want?

TIA

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Re: problem with color (ICC) profiles in Fedora 10

2008-11-26 Thread Markku Kolkka
Alberto Ferrante kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika keskiviikko, 
26. marraskuuta 2008):
> I have an icc profile
> for my monitor (created by ArgyllCMS 1.0.3b). When I try to
> load it by means of dispwin (but the same applies to xcalib)
> the profile is loaded without any error message (and dispwin
> -V confirms that the LUT is correctly loaded), but there are
> no visual changes on the screen.

Maybe your monitor's native color response is too good. Downgrade 
it to a worse one or mess with the adjustments and you should 
see a difference. :-)

Or you could just run dispcal -r to check the calibration.

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Re: F9 - F10 Upgrade Left only GRUB prompt

2008-11-26 Thread M A Young

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Richard England wrote:

I used preupgrade (1.0.0-1.fc9.noarch) to upgrade a Dell Latitude laptop from 
F9 to F10. Every thing seemed to go fine but on reboot I'm getting only a 
GRUB prompt.


If you get a grub> prompt, that means it can't find the grub.conf 
configuration file (or possibly that that file is corrupt). You could try 
something like

configfile (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf
or
configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/grub.conf
and see if you can find it manually - tab completion is very useful in 
telling you if you are looking in the right place. "help" will list the 
available commands, and you can read a file via "cat". Incidentally 
(hd0,0) is the first partition of the first disk, probably sda1


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Re: Wireless, Broadcom

2008-11-26 Thread Vincent Onelli
Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:33:03 -0500
> From: "Mark Haney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Wireless, Broadcom
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
>   Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;  charset="ISO-8859-1"
> 

> Well, not everything you said makes sense.  Let's see if I can
condense 
> this into something I can follow.
> 
> 1.  You can't get the broadcom card to work with Fedora (9?)?
> 2.  You've tried a couple of howtos and none have worked?  (What
howtos? 
> exactly?)

http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/bcm43xx-yum-extras
http://www.cenolan.com/2008/10/installing-the-broadcom-sta-driver-fedora-9/
http://dnmouse.org/broadcom.html
I did not keep a record, these are the one that I remember. I at one
point try to install the ndiswrapper but I could not complete the
installation but I do not remember why and at what point.

> 3.  Now you can't get the Windows driver to work?
> 4. You tried the howto from dnmouse.org and can get the light on, and
an 
> SELinux error which you fixed?
> 5.  This doesn't tell us if you actually got the card working in
Fedora. 
> Did you?

I assume that because the light comes on and also loaded the proper MAC
number it now recognize the card. 
how can I tell, the only thing I know the wireless light is now lit and
I can Activate by going to network setup and press the activate button,
but it will not activate by it self.
 
> 6.  The Fedora setup shouldn't have been affected by anything you did
in 
> fedora.  However, without knowing which guidelines you used, I can't
say 
> for certain

> I've run a broadcom card in Fedora for 2 years now without any
trouble 
> at all.  What card are you using?  What chipset?  What does lspci and 
> lsmod show? 

I do not know where to look for thus file
I have HP zv6000 with broadcom bcm4306 minipci wireless board. 

> You haven't really given us a lot of detail on WHAT exactly is
happening 
> or not happening.  Just that it doesn't work.

The wireless everything else is OK
if there is any thing else you need to know to help understand the
problem please let me know. 

> I really rather doubt re-installing Windows is necessary.  > >
Re-installing 
> he broadcom drivers, maybe.  It's possible there are setting in Linux 
> being carried across a restarts into Windows.  But I've not seen that 
> problem in a while.

I do not know if the driver are loaded by fedora on boot up, but if 
installed in flash memory they will be there for windows also.

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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
 it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?
>>>
>>> Try
>>> yum clean all
>>> then try yum update again. I am guessing you have old metadata in your yum
>>> cache.
>>
>> Thanks, but no progress with
>>
>> yum clean all
>>
>> Moreover, no fedora.repo.rpmnew:
>>
>> # dir  /etc/yum.repos.d/
>> adobe-linux-i386.repo   pptp.repo
>> CRAN.repo   remi.repo
>> endurs_i686.reporpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
>> fedora-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free.repo
>> fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
>> fedora-updates-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
>> fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
>> fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
>> fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
>> freshrpms.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
>> google.repo texlive.repo
>> #
>
> Let me add that I have upgraded from F9 to F10 with
>
> Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso

And it tries to install the following rpms:

===
 Package   Arch Version RepositorySize
===
Updating:
 PyKDE4i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   4.1 M
 imlib2i386 1.4.2-2.fc9 updates-newkey   575 k
 kdeaccessibility  i386 1:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   6.3 M
 kdeartworki386 4.1.3-2.fc9 updates-newkey   4.7 M
 kdebase   i386 6:4.1.3-2.fc9   updates-newkey   5.7 M
 kdebase-libs  i386 6:4.1.3-2.fc9   updates-newkey   266 k
 kdebase-runtime   i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   5.7 M
 kdebase-runtime-libs  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   680 k
 kdebase-workspace i386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey10 M
 kdebase-workspace-devel   i386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey   186 k
 kdebase-workspace-libsi386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey   1.1 M
 kdegames  i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey28 M
 kdegames-libs i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   614 k
 kdegraphics   i386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9.1 updates-newkey   2.4 M
 kdegraphics-libs  i386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9.1 updates-newkey   1.7 M
 kdelibs   i386 6:4.1.3-3.fc9   updates-newkey12 M
 kdelibs-commoni386 6:4.1.3-3.fc9   updates-newkey   261 k
 kdelibs-devel i386 6:4.1.3-3.fc9   updates-newkey   1.6 M
 kdemultimedia i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   1.6 M
 kdemultimedia-devel   i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey16 k
 kdemultimedia-libsi386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   312 k
 kdenetworki386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   7.9 M
 kdenetwork-libs   i386 7:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   2.0 M
 kdepimlibsi386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   2.4 M
 kdepimlibs-devel  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   324 k
 kdeplasma-addons  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   1.0 M
 kdesdki386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   6.8 M
 kdesdk-libs   i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   283 k
 kdesdk-utils  i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   258 k
 kdeutils  i386 6:4.1.3-1.fc9   updates-newkey   3.1 M
 ksysguarddi386 4.1.3-6.fc9 updates-newkey66 k
 libv4li386 0.5.6-1.fc9 updates-newkey71 k
 oxygen-icon-theme noarch   4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey13 M
 phonon-backend-xine   i386 4.1.3-1.fc9 updates-newkey   131 k
 qti386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey   3.5 M
 qt-devel  i386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey   7.0 M
 qt-mysql  i386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey46 k
 qt-x11i386 1:4.4.3-5.fc9   updates-newkey12 M
 setroubleshootnoarch   2.0.12-4.fc9updates-newkey   121 k
 setroubleshoot-server noarch   2.0.12-4.fc9updates-newkey   1.3 M
 xscreensaver  i386 1:5.07-3.fc9updates-newkey25 k
 xscreensaver-base i386 1:5.07-3.fc9updates-newkey   508 k
 xscreensaver-extras   i386 1:5.07-3.fc9updates-newkey   3.7 M
 xscreensaver-gl-base  i386 1:5.07-3.fc9

Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
>>> it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?
>>
>> Try
>> yum clean all
>> then try yum update again. I am guessing you have old metadata in your yum
>> cache.
>
> Thanks, but no progress with
>
> yum clean all
>
> Moreover, no fedora.repo.rpmnew:
>
> # dir  /etc/yum.repos.d/
> adobe-linux-i386.repo   pptp.repo
> CRAN.repo   remi.repo
> endurs_i686.reporpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
> fedora-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free.repo
> fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
> fedora-updates-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
> fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
> fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
> fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
> freshrpms.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
> google.repo texlive.repo
> #

Let me add that I have upgraded from F9 to F10 with

Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso

Paul

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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:11 PM, M A Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
>> it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?
>
> Try
> yum clean all
> then try yum update again. I am guessing you have old metadata in your yum
> cache.

Thanks, but no progress with

yum clean all

Moreover, no fedora.repo.rpmnew:

# dir  /etc/yum.repos.d/
adobe-linux-i386.repo   pptp.repo
CRAN.repo   remi.repo
endurs_i686.reporpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
fedora-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free.repo
fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
fedora-updates-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
freshrpms.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
google.repo texlive.repo
#

Paul

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Re: does the DVD ISO for F10 ever change?

2008-11-26 Thread Chris Snook

Steven Stern wrote:

Fred Silsbee wrote:

Let me explain:

I just downloaded F10 dvd iso and burned it onto a DVD -R

It works great and survived a number of tests.

Question: If I repeat the procedure in a few months, will the data change due 
to updates!

I.e. does the dvd iso image keep up with updates?

If not, I'd expect that the backlog of yum updates would be staggering in a few 
months.


  


See "re-spins" at http://fedoraunity.org/



More generally, we don't change the contents of any distribution file (be it 
.rpm or .iso) without renaming it, except when we sign RPMs.  Otherwise we'd get 
false alarms all over the place about GPG signatures not matching, and then 
people would ignore those warnings when their downloads got corrupted or an 
attacker successfully served them a trojaned file.  The rename may be as simple 
as incrementing a version number or adding a datestamp, but something will change.


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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread M A Young

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Paul Smith wrote:


I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?


Try
yum clean all
then try yum update again. I am guessing you have old metadata in your yum 
cache.


Michael Young

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Re: weigh in if you have or have had the iso dvd burn no verify problem

2008-11-26 Thread Rick Stevens

Fred Silsbee wrote:

--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[snip]

You should state how you are burning. The program

name. Disc type, (DL or not) and ISO type (Fedora 10 image?
or your own?)

If you're talking about Brasero, yes, I have this

issue all the time. In fact I've also seen it with
nautilus. Sometimes the DVD will get ejected  after burning
and sometimes it will be ejected, then the door will close
automatically and immediately. Even for the exact same ISO
file. There is no logic to it.

I think this is a race condition between the automounter
and the burning
software:  the burner resets the drive (thereby doing the
eject), then
it reloads the drive but Gnome or whatever is grabbing it
before the
burner code can.  Perhaps disabling the automount would fix
that.

Just an idea to try.


How does one  "disabling the automount"


If you're using Gnome, open the "System" menu, then go to
"Preferences-->Personal-->File Management" and open the "Media" tab.
You can select actions for the various kind of removable media.  Either
set each to "Do Nothing" or select the "Never prompt or start programs 
on media insertion" option near the bottom.


In KDE, I don't know, but I'm sure there's something similar.
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Re: Shortcut to computer:

2008-11-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 18:14 +, Iarly Selbir wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is possible add a custom shortcut to "computer:" Window on Gnome, I
> have a folder and I wanted add a shortcut on this , because today only
> devices appears.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Regards,
Right click  on icon and choose Make a link
> -
> Iarly Selbir ( Ski0s )
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Re: F-10 system-config-network problem

2008-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin

Bob Goodwin wrote:


I've just installed from the F10 live cd.  It did not ask me for the 
network setup information, I may have missed something with the sun 
shining in on the screen?


But I should be able to set it up with system-config-network.  I can 
enter the data without a problem but it insists on changing  the 
subnet mask to 192.168.1.1?


Should be 192.168.1.7

Sub. mask  255.255.255.0

Def. gw192.169.1.1

I save it and it comes up wrong.

Nothing is changed in the hardware, F9 worked without a problem on it 
a couple of hours ago.


Any idea?

Bob




NETMASK was set wrong in  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
once corrected there it came up right in system-config-network.

But who needs a tool that wont effect a change to correct an error?

Bob


  


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RE: F9 DOS attack

2008-11-26 Thread bruce
hey rick...

are you the same rick, who used to work with a company in san mateo.. that
used to deal with akamai...



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Stevens
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:18 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: F9 DOS attack


Dave Feustel wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:30:09AM -0800, bruce wrote:
>> hi dave...
>>
>> just saw this thread. are you running a static ip on your external
internet
>> connection. if you aren't, you could simply force the cable modem to
reset
>> to another ip address..
>
> I tried reseting the cable modem but I'm not sure it changes my ip
> address.
>
>> you might have to work with comcast tech support to accomplish this. (get
a
>> 2nd/3rd level guy who actually knows/wants to help you out)
>
> I'm going to try to talk with them about this tomorrow.
>
>> if you've already done this, has it managed to slow the offender down?
>
> No. But the attack had ceased when I got up this morning.
>
>> do you have a router connected to the cable modem? does it log the ip
>> addresses of the offending client?
>
> I use pf with a block all incoming rule. I don't see any traffic with
> pftop, but I saw a lot of incoming packets by observing the leds on my
> cable modem. It's pretty clear to me that both F9 and Suse11 are
> vulnerable to attack from the internet. I'm starting to get very
> interested in linux security and preventing dos attacks.

ANYTHING connected to the internet is vulnerable to attack, be it SYN
floods, brute force SSH attempts, any number of others.  Wait till you
get a DC++ attack!  The only way to block that sucker is to do a deep
packet inspection of the payload and drop the connections or find the
hub that has you listed and kill it somehow.

It's totally irrelevant what OS you run, it's an attack against the
interface.  Different OSes handle it differently.  It's best to have a
hardware firewall out front, but then internal software firewalls like
iptables are your second level of defense.  Next is making sure only
the network "listeners" you NEED are enabled.  I manage a network
that seems to have a big, red target painted on it.  I deal with this
all the time.  Thank goodness for our Cisco, Foundry and Radware gear
out front!  They block most of it, the rest we deal with via iptables
and we monitor EVERYTHING (my cell phone has almost melted on occasion
from the SMS text alerts when a DOS is attempted).

As to your problem, Comcast's first level techs (and I'm being generous
using that term) are notoriously crappy as far as solving problems.
They're not much more than telemarketers and work off a script. Ask them
something off script and they're at sea.  Can't say Time Warner is much
better.  One problem I had with them:

Me: "I'm not getting a DHCP address from you, your DHCP servers are down."
Them: "Which OS?"
Me: "Linux."
Them: "Oh, we don't support Linux."
Me: "DHCP is DHCP you twit.  The OS has nothing to do with it!  Let me
talk to a level 3 tech."
(this went on for about five minutes, I threatened dire vengeance,
then I got a level 3 guy [skipped level 2, they're idiots, too])
Level3Guy: "What's the problem?"
Me: "You're not giving out DHCP addresses.  Your servers are down."
L3G: "I don't think so."
Me: "Dude, I'm watching a tcpdump of it.  I'm sending requests and
you're not answering.  No denials, no responses, nada."
L3G: "Let me check."
(long pause)
L3G: "Yeah, six of them crashed."
Me: "You don't monitor that sort of thing?"
L3G: "Uh, guess not."
Me: "ARRGHHH!"

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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Phil Meyer

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All,

I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

  


Check in /etc/yum.repos.d.

If you modified your old files, then the F10 version did not overwrite 
them but became fedora.repo.rpmnew etc


# mv fedora.repo.rpmnew fedora.repo

repeat for updates.repo

Good luck!

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Re: Encryption:

2008-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 16:36:53 -0500,
  Jeff Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Would not GPG or PGP work for mail and file encryption?

For email that is reasonable.

For files it depends on your threat model. If worried about someone physically
stealing your hardware (e.g. lost laptop) than luks protects you from having
someone find remnants in scratch areas. If you are worried about other users
on the system getting at the data, then pgp would be better for that. (SELinux
could also be helpful.)

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Re: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]

2008-11-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 16:14 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 09:13 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 21:32 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 12:41 +1030, Tim wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 20:56 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I did find the following in the cupsd.conf and I am wondering if the
> > > > > SystemGroup is causing my problem as I appear to be able to access my
> > > > > printer/scanner when logged in as "root" but not as a local user.
> > > > > 
> > > > > MaxLogSize 0
> > > > > LogLevel info
> > > > > SystemGroup sys root
> > > > 
> > > > I should hope not.  That allows you to define who's a system user who's
> > > > allowed to configure things.  Compared to the rest of the users who're
> > > > just allowed to use them.
> > > Well I am very confused.  I decided to delete all printer definitions
> > > and start from scratch using the cups web administration process to add
> > > a printer.  Once added, I went to the HP Device Manager and it had an
> > > icon for the printer but said that it could not be connected.  I then
> > > switched users to "root" and using the HP device Manager it showed the
> > > printer connected with icons for options to scan, print or fax.  One
> > > thing that I did find peculiar is that it asked for a user id/password
> > > when adding the printer.  I tried to use my local user id/password but
> > > it would not accept it.  It seemed to be in a loop and kept popping up
> > > asking for user id /password.  I finally entered root and password which
> > > it accepted.
> > >   
> > It  is standard to need to login with root and root passwd to be able to
> > add a printer.
> Ok.  I can understand the reasoning for that.  But, why would I only
> have access to the printer/scanner when signed on as root and not as a
> local user?  This is the problem that I am running into.  Every time I
> wish to use the scanner, I need to switch users to root.  
Well I would guess it is an incorrectly configured /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
file. If you search that file you will find there are number of clauses
that set policies and restrictions on users. So I would:
1. Look at the documentation for this file accessible through the cups
interface.
2. Search the file for the word root and user.

root should appear only once in the SystemmGroup line.
user appears in the various policies and restriction clauses.. These
must be checked to change your restricted situation.
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test

2008-11-26 Thread bruce
testt

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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Kevin J. Cummings
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
>> it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?
>
> No, nor do you want to.  These are RPMs that did not get rebuilt for F10.
>  The same thing happened on F9 and F8 as well IIRC.

Thanks! Well, when I try to update those F9 rpms, I get errors.

I do have

fedora-release-10-1.noarch

installed.

Paul

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RE: root login

2008-11-26 Thread bruce
"g"

not sure who you are, nor am i sure i understand your remarks. if your feelings 
are hurt, don't take it personally. i've seen people give seriously good 
advice. i've seen people give advice that would screw the hell out of the 
system of the person who was looking for help.

the fact, your approach wasn't the issue the guy was dealing with. would it 
have harmed his system, no. was it the issue, again, no.

unless you "know"/trust the person giveing the advice, or unless you see it 
from a number of different people, i would argue that you should take anything 
with a huge assed grain of salt!

relax, have some turkey!


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bruce wrote:

> not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file... 

good. if you do not know then those of us who do will continue to
keep it a secret.

> moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you don't know!!!

you can keep your reason for being snide a secret too.



peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Phil Meyer

Fred Silsbee wrote:


--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

From: Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: has K3B been abandoned?
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 8:23 PM
Fred Silsbee wrote:



THIS is why I no longer post to bugzilla!
Ignore it and it will go away!
  

Relax.

No one is ignoring it.  It's *hard*.  Hard problems
take time and energy to
solve.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix it.  Do you?

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Yes! I have dual boot! I'll switch to Bill Gate's XP Prof and do it there

sorry to have troubled you!


  

  


Just a quick query ...

Why not just bring up nautilus or equiv in KDE, right click .iso, and 
burn ??


Most folks stopped using K3B when that functionality was added to the 
file browsers.


Good Luck!

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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Paul Smith wrote:
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Dear All,

I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run 'yum update',
it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid this problem?


No, nor do you want to.  These are RPMs that did not get rebuilt for 
F10.  The same thing happened on F9 and F8 as well IIRC.



Thanks in advance,

Paul




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Re: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms

2008-11-26 Thread Fred Silsbee



--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: F10 yum tries to install F9 rpms
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 9:47 PM
> Dear All,
> 
> I have just upgraded from F9 to F10. However, when I run
> 'yum update',
> it tries to install F9 rpms. Can I do something to avoid
> this problem?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Paul
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The question goes far beyond my knowledge but I am curious:

which did you do:

(1) use the install DVD ISO for F10
(2) use preupdate
(3) liveCD method


  

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