Looking for Ideas on a User-friendly Join Process

2008-12-24 Thread Marc Ferguson
Hi,

My name is Marc Ferguson.  I recently joined the websites group for Fedora
Project and I've been assigned to help figure out a very universal and
user-friendly way to tweak http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora.  Can you
please respond to this thread and let us know what your process is for
people to join your group.  In the end we want to make sure we're all on
the same page and that the joining process is much easier, thus increasing
the contributors to the project.  Thanks.

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Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?

2008-12-24 Thread Phil Meyer

Joe Nall wrote:

Can pungi put packages/groups in the iso that are not installed?

Context: I'm building spin using pungi that includes packages that get 
installed in a second pass in a manner similar to firstboot. The 
packages require a number of services to be running to properly 
configure themselves and can't be grouped in the initial install.
I want to include the packages in the repo, but not install them until 
the system has more services running.


joe

-



What I do, is make  package of packages.  In this way, all available 
in-house built packages are available to install on first boot, from a 
slight modification I make to rc.local during the post.


Basically, I have in rc.local:

if [ packages exist in this dir ]
   then
   rpm -ihv dir/*rpm
fi

Here is a bit of justification for doing first boot packages:

postgresql cannot be configured for network access during post install.  
One of our rpms modifies the postgresql configs, and then creates a 
specialized database.


There are quite a few applications (like postgresql) that generate 
configuration settings the first time that they are started.


Maybe this will get your creative juices flowing towards an even better 
method, and please, share! :)


Good luck!

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rpms/hanazono-fonts/devel hanazono-fonts.spec,1.1,1.2

2008-12-24 Thread Akira TAGOH
Author: tagoh

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/hanazono-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv29102

Modified Files:
hanazono-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
* Wed Dec 24 2008 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 20081012-6
- Update the spec file to fit into new guideline. (#477395)


Index: hanazono-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/hanazono-fonts/devel/hanazono-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- hanazono-fonts.spec 17 Nov 2008 02:23:06 -  1.1
+++ hanazono-fonts.spec 24 Dec 2008 12:31:13 -  1.2
@@ -1,12 +1,11 @@
 %definefontnamehanazono
-%definefontdir %{_datadir}/fonts/%{fontname}
-%definefontconfdir %{_sysconfdir}/fonts/conf.d
 %define archivename%{fontname}-%{version}
 %definepriority66
+%define fontconf   %{priority}-%{fontname}.conf
 
 Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:   20081012
-Release:   5%{?dist}
+Release:   6%{?dist}
 Summary:   Japanese Mincho-typeface TrueType font
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -17,6 +16,8 @@
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 
 BuildArch: noarch
+BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel
+Requires:  fontpackages-filesystem
 
 %description
 Hanazono Mincho typeface is a Japanese TrueType font that developed with
@@ -44,36 +45,28 @@
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
-install -dm 0755 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}
-install -pm 0644 hanazono.ttf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}
-install -dm 0755 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontconfdir}
-install -pm 0644 %{SOURCE1} 
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontconfdir}/%{priority}-%{fontname}.conf
+install -dm 0755 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontdir}
+install -pm 0644 hanazono.ttf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontdir}
+install -dm 0755 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
+$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontconfig_confdir}
+install -pm 0644 %{SOURCE1} 
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}
 
+ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} 
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}
 
 %clean
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
-%post
-if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ]; then
-   %{_bindir}/fc-cache %{fontdir} || :
-fi
-
-%postun
-if [ $1 -eq 0 -a -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ]; then
-   %{_bindir}/fc-cache %{fontdir} || :
-fi
+%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} hanazono.ttf
 
-
-%files
-%defattr(0644, root, root, 0755)
 %doc LISENCE.txt README.txt THANKS.txt
-%config(noreplace) %{fontconfdir}/%{priority}-%{fontname}.conf
-%dir %{fontdir}/
-%{fontdir}/*.ttf
+%dir %{_fontdir}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Dec 24 2008 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 20081012-6
+- Update the spec file to fit into new guideline. (#477395)
+
 * Fri Nov 14 2008 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 20081012-5
 - Fix a typo in fontconfig config again.
 

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[Bug 477395] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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 Status|NEW |MODIFIED




--- Comment #2 from Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com  2008-12-24 07:36:34 EDT ---
should be fixed in hanazono-fonts-20081012-6.fc11.

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[Bug 474045] new upstream version 4.28; use cyrillic non-script characters

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2008-12-24 13:42:51 EDT ---
terminus-font-4.28-1.fc10 has been pushed to the Fedora 10 stable repository. 
If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 474045] new upstream version 4.28; use cyrillic non-script characters

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2008-12-24 13:41:57 EDT ---
terminus-font-4.28-1.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 stable repository.  If
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 474045] new upstream version 4.28; use cyrillic non-script characters

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Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

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 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution||NEXTRELEASE




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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477381, which changed state.

Bug 477381 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477381

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE



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[Bug 477381] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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Wart w...@kobold.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #2 from Wart w...@kobold.org  2008-12-24 17:56:18 EDT ---
Fonts in the package have been replaced with symlinks to system fonts.

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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477484, which changed state.

Bug 477484 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477484

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE



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[Bug 477484] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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Wart w...@kobold.org changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Wart w...@kobold.org  2008-12-24 18:41:09 EDT ---
I replaced the font that comes with the package with a link to the appropriate
system font.

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rpms/sazanami-fonts/devel sazanami-gothic-fontconfig.conf, NONE, 1.1 sazanami-mincho-fontconfig.conf, NONE, 1.1 sazanami-fonts.spec, 1.3, 1.4

2008-12-24 Thread Akira TAGOH
Author: tagoh

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/sazanami-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv2826

Modified Files:
sazanami-fonts.spec 
Added Files:
sazanami-gothic-fontconfig.conf 
sazanami-mincho-fontconfig.conf 
Log Message:
* Thu Dec 25 2008 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 0.20040629-5.20061016
- Update the spec file to fit into new guideline. (#477453)


--- NEW FILE sazanami-gothic-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
match
test name=lang
stringja-jp/string
/test
test name=family
stringsans-serif/string
/test
edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
stringSazanami Gothic/string
/edit
/match

alias
familySazanami Gothic/family
default
familysans-serif/family
/default
/alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE sazanami-mincho-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
match
test name=lang
stringja-jp/string
/test
test name=family
stringserif/string
/test
edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
stringSazanami Mincho/string
/edit
/match

alias
familySazanami Mincho/family
default
familyserif/family
/default
/alias
/fontconfig


Index: sazanami-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/sazanami-fonts/devel/sazanami-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.3 -r1.4
--- sazanami-fonts.spec 28 Aug 2007 06:20:56 -  1.3
+++ sazanami-fonts.spec 25 Dec 2008 05:59:47 -  1.4
@@ -1,15 +1,21 @@
-%define gothfontdir%{_datadir}/fonts/%{name}-gothic
-%define minfontdir %{_datadir}/fonts/%{name}-mincho
-%define catalogue  %{_sysconfdir}/X11/fontpath.d
 %definefontver 20061016
+%definepriority66
+%definefontnamesazanami
+%definearchivename %{fontname}-%{fontver}
+%definefontconf%{priority}-%{fontname}
+%define catalogue  %{_sysconfdir}/X11/fontpath.d
+%definecommon_desc \
+The Sazanami type faces are automatically generated from Wadalab font kit.\
+They also contains some embedded Japanese bitmap fonts.
 
-Name:  sazanami-fonts
+Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:   0.20040629
-Release:   4.%{fontver}%{?dist}
+Release:   5.%{fontver}%{?dist}
 BuildArch: noarch
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires: ttmkfdir = 3.0.6
 BuildRequires: mkfontdir
+BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel
 URL:   http://efont.sourceforge.jp/
 
 # original is 
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.jp/efont/10087/sazanami-20040629.tar.bz2
@@ -17,6 +23,8 @@
 Source0:   sazanami-%{fontver}.tar.bz2
 Source1:   fonts.alias.sazanami-gothic
 Source2:   fonts.alias.sazanami-mincho
+Source3:   %{fontname}-gothic-fontconfig.conf
+Source4:   %{fontname}-mincho-fontconfig.conf
 
 
 Summary:   Sazanami Japanese TrueType fonts
@@ -24,36 +32,45 @@
 Group: User Interface/X
 
 %description
-The Sazanami type faces are automatically generated from Wadalab font kit.
-They also contains some embedded Japanese bitmap fonts.
+%common_desc
+
+%package   common
+Summary:   Common files for Sazanami Japanese TrueType fonts
+Group: User Interface/X
+Requires:  fontpackages-filesystem
+
+%description   common
+%common_desc
+
+This package consists of files used by other %{name} packages.
 
-%package gothic
+%package   gothic
 Summary:   Sazanami Gothic Japanese TrueType font
 License:   BSD
 Group: User Interface/X
 Conflicts: fonts-japanese = 0.20061016-9.fc8
 Provides:  ttfonts-ja = 1.2-37
 Obsoletes: ttfonts-ja  1.2-37
+Requires:  %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 
-%description gothic
-This package contains Japanese TrueType font for Gothic type face.
+%description   gothic
+%common_desc
 
-The Sazanami type faces are automatically generated from Wadalab font kit.
-They also contains some embedded Japanese bitmap fonts.
+This package contains Japanese TrueType font for Gothic type face.
 
-%package mincho
+%package   mincho
 Summary:   Sazanami Mincho Japanese TrueType font
 License:   BSD
 Group: User Interface/X
 Conflicts: fonts-japanese = 0.20061016-9.fc8
 Provides:  ttfonts-ja = 1.2-37
 Obsoletes: ttfonts-ja  1.2-37
+Requires:  %{name}-common = 

[Bug 477453] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com  2008-12-25 01:04:56 EDT ---
should be fixed in sazanami-fonts-0.20040629-5.20061016.fc11.

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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477478, which changed state.

Bug 477478 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477478

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Resolution||RAWHIDE
 Status|NEW |CLOSED



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[Bug 477478] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi changed:

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 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||20081124-2
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #2 from Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi  2008-12-25 01:47:33 EDT 
---
Fixed in 20081124-2, better fix depends on vdr-text2skin gaining fontconfig
support: http://projects.vdr-developer.org/issues/show/36

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[Bug 477381] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #3 from Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info  2008-12-25 
02:08:12 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 Fonts in the package have been replaced with symlinks to system fonts.

thx for that Wart. 

But please allow me one question reg. the patch:

 +Requires:   dejavu-fonts-experimental bitstream-vera-fonts
 [...]
 +ln -s %{_datadir}/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSansCondensed.ttf 
 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_datadir}/%{name}/fonts/DejaVuSansCondensed.ttf
 +ln -s %{_datadir}/fonts/bitstream-vera/Vera.ttf 
 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_datadir}/%{name}/fonts/vera_sans.ttf

Maybe a matter of taste, but wouldn't it be better to use those as requires:

Requires: %{_datadir}/%{name}/fonts/DejaVuSansCondensed.ttf
Requires: %{name}/fonts/vera_sans.ttf

That way the broken deps report will yell as soon as the files move (which
breaks the symlinks). That happens rarely (if ever), but I guess sooner or
later it will...

And yes, I'm aware that file deps outside of *bin/ have disadvantages

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Outage Notification - 2008-12-24 14:00 UTC

2008-12-24 Thread Mike McGrath
There will be an outage starting at 2008-12-24 14:00 UTC UTC, which will
last approximately ? hours.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:

date -d '2008-12-24 14:00 UTC'

Affected Services:

Buildsystem
DNS
Fedora Talk
Collaboration services (Gobby)

Unaffected Services:

CVS / Source Control
Database
Fedora Hosted
Fedora People
Mail
Mirror System
Torrent
Translation Services
Websites

Ticket Link:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1090

Reason for Outage:

serverbeach1-3 went out this morning.  This happened a month ago from
electrical issues but there's no word on if this is the same thing or
related to that in any way.  Nigel has submitted a ticket to them to get
it looked at, generally they are very quick about fixing this, I'd be
surprised if this took more then an hour.  Having said that, we have no
information so the whole building might have fallen into a sink hole or
something.

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Re: Introduction - Ronald McCormick

2008-12-24 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Ronald A. McCormick Jr. wrote:

 Hello all, I figured I would drop a line and introduce myself.  I have been a
 linux user since the TAMU 0.12 distro days and a Redhat user since the Redhat
 4 days.  I am a Network and Systems Engineer who has worked looking to
 contribute where I can.

 I have experience administering and engineering distributed computing clusters
 in a real-time environment.   I was responsible for creating a custom
 distribution for use in an embedded product for my company.

 I am pretty good at hacking bash and php which I use to automate most tasks.
 You can consider me a generalist looking to get more involved.

 In past lives, I have done system engineering for an MMO game.  I have
 engineered cable modem networks, and worked on the architecture team of a
 large corporate distributed computing environment.

 I currently support an MMO game client on multiple platforms. (I did the port
 to two of the three supported platforms)  I also do network engineering on a
 Tollway in my state.


Welcome Ronald, Are you looking to get more involved in just anything
Fedora or specifically the Infrastructure team?

-Mike

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Re: hi, i newly joined fedora infrastructure group

2008-12-24 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, p sena wrote:

 Hi,

 I am new to the fedora infrastructure group. I am going throug few of the 
 links in the site to get a feel of the work. I have submitted my 
 .ssh_rsa_key.pub from the site. I think I will get some intimation on this. 
 Please someone can let me know further proceedings from here onwards.


Make sure you can come to the meetings (unless you're not in an available
time zone)  Then its good just to hang out on this list or stop by
#fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net.  Start looking through FIGs for what
you want to do, or though the ticketing system.

-Mike

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Re: hi, i newly joined fedora infrastructure group

2008-12-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram

p sena wrote:

Hi,

I am new to the fedora infrastructure group. I am going throug few of the links 
in the site to get a feel of the work. I have submitted my .ssh_rsa_key.pub 
from the site. I think I will get some intimation on this. Please someone can 
let me know further proceedings from here onwards.

Cheers.

  Regards  Thanks  Prabir Senapati  mailto: senapati2...@yahoo.com


Welcome and keep watching the discussions in this list. The 
infrastructure folks are quite busy now but there are often calls for 
help. Let us know what your interests and skill sets are, so that we can 
match up something.


Rahul

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Re: Introduction - Ronald McCormick

2008-12-24 Thread Ronald A. McCormick
My passion is generally infrastructure work.  However, I am willing to 
assist where needed.


Mike McGrath wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Ronald A. McCormick Jr. wrote:

  

Hello all, I figured I would drop a line and introduce myself.  I have been a
linux user since the TAMU 0.12 distro days and a Redhat user since the Redhat
4 days.  I am a Network and Systems Engineer who has worked looking to
contribute where I can.

I have experience administering and engineering distributed computing clusters
in a real-time environment.   I was responsible for creating a custom
distribution for use in an embedded product for my company.

I am pretty good at hacking bash and php which I use to automate most tasks.
You can consider me a generalist looking to get more involved.

In past lives, I have done system engineering for an MMO game.  I have
engineered cable modem networks, and worked on the architecture team of a
large corporate distributed computing environment.

I currently support an MMO game client on multiple platforms. (I did the port
to two of the three supported platforms)  I also do network engineering on a
Tollway in my state.




Welcome Ronald, Are you looking to get more involved in just anything
Fedora or specifically the Infrastructure team?

-Mike

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Gregor Gruener is introduce oneself

2008-12-24 Thread Gregor Grüner
Hello *,

my name is Gregor Gruener and i am twenty-five years old. I work one year with 
linux now and when the fedora-infrastructure-Team have interest i like to give 
my help. I am working in the company Telefonica Germany in our housing section, 
2nd-Level support for our costumer.  We are using lot of RedHat Enterprise 
Server 5. I have big interests to learn more to administrate RHEP 5 Server and 
to use my small knowledge to help the fedora team. I think in 
standard-Administration i am very ok and i am Certified RedHat Technician for 
RHEP 5. For more questions i am in the irc fedora-admin channel user: ggruener
Sorry, but my English grammar is not the best.


best regards
Gregor Gruener
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rsync errors on fedora-secondary

2008-12-24 Thread Adrian Reber
I get following rsync errors on syncing fedora-secondary on the last few
runs:

rsync: send_files failed to open 
/development/sparc/os/images/.initrd.img.pupy3y (in fedora-secondary): 
Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open 
/releases/9/Everything/source/SRPMS/.supertuxkart-0.4-1.fc9.src.rpm.omf19j 
(in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open 
/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.geronimo-specs-1.0-1.M2.2jpp.12.src.rpm.quHnuo
 (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13)

Maybe someone can delete those files. Thanks!

Adrian

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Re: Intel i7

2008-12-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
James Wilkinson wrote:
 You may want to ask again, specifically mentioning the graphics chip
 you’re planning on getting. It looks like you have a choice of the ATI
 Radeon HD 3450 or the 4850. man radeon on F10 mentions the 3450, but not
 the 4850.

They're both HD, neither is supported by the Free as in speech 3D drivers.
Both have working 2D support, but no 3D acceleration.

http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon

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RAID5 gets a bad rap

2008-12-24 Thread Philip A. Prindeville
I was going back over the archives and saw a lot of people complaining 
about how slow RAID5 was, and did some quick research into this.


Yes, it's true that it can be slowed down if you're rewriting 
fragmentary data in place, since this takes a read-modify-write operation.


But that's true of most filesystems.

If you're *not* a database weenie, and you're doing usual manly things 
with your filesystem (like lots of compiles, for instance), you're 
typically not going to be modifying files in place at all.


You're going to either be writing out new files, or else opening 
existing files for writing, doing a truncate(fd, (off_t) 0) on them, and 
then writing them out, etc.


Or else you're going to be opening lots and lots of files for reading...

Both of which RAID5 does as well as the next thing (which would be RAID0).

Why?  Because if you're writing out files, you don't need to 
read-modify-write, you can just write (and write the stripe parity data 
at the same time).


Ok, sure, you say, but what about the 16K (or whatever) stripe size 
versus writing data out in smaller chunks?


Yes?  What about it?  You might be writing blocks out via stdio 
buffering in 4K chunks or whatever, but unless you're doing a sync() 
after every single write (buffer flush), the filesystem (ext3 or 
whatever) is free to accumulate consecutive blocks into handy (read: 
more efficient) chunks (such as multiples of the stripe size) and write 
them out all at once... again eliminating the need to do a 
read-modify-write (since you only need to do a read-modify-write if 
you're writing incomplete blocks).


So is it just the database-heads that are maligning RAID5, or are there 
other performance issues I don't know about?


Because my empirical experience has always been that when writing large 
files, RAID5 performs on par with RAID0.


Ditto with reading lots of files.

-Philip




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Re: E-mail Server

2008-12-24 Thread Stuart

On 14/12/08 20:47, homb...@tips-q.com wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:04:16 +0200

[...]

a) CentOS, not Fedora


agreed


b) Postfix is probably the easiest MTA to configure.


Also agreed, but he default postfix config shipped in Fedora, RHEL (and 
as a result almost certainly) CentOS is retarded... be careful with 
security settings. Most of the HOWTOs seem to cover this.




c) The default imap/pop3 server (dovecot) is sufficient for
up to a few hundred users.


Is there any particular evidence you have to support this?
AFAIK dovecot scales to 100,000+ users (at the very least)


d) Test, test and test again before you go live. Pay
particular attention to preventing an open relay.



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Re: VMWare 6.5 and Fedora 10

2008-12-24 Thread Alain Roger
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Alain Roger raf.n...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Christopher A. Williams 
 chriswfed...@cawllc.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:58 +0100, Alain Roger wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is there someone who experienced issue running Fedora 10 on VMWare
  6.5 ?
  for example when i switch on the effects for desktop, everything
  becomes black or white... and i can reinstall the whole F10 :-(

 Unfortunately, the VMware video drivers for F10 do not support the
 required acceleration needed to run Desktop Effects when running F10 in
 a VM on Workstation 6.5. That's why you're getting the blank white
 screen.

 F10 in a VM on Workstation 6.5 + Desktop Effects = Bad Idea.

 Cheers,

 Chris



I'm reopening this issue not as such but as complementary information.
when i run F10 (without desktop effect) under KDE, it always starts in
800x600 under VMWare 6.5 whereas last session i set it up to 1200 x 800 or
to 1152 x 864.
moreover, i setup the KDE Manager to display the same login windows as F10
KDE live... but nothing is displayed.

so where could be the problem ?
thx.

A.
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Re: fedora login window

2008-12-24 Thread Alain Roger
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:

 John Austin wrote:
  I have this in mine
  Pretty sure that its not all necessary !!
 
  tarifa ~ 1001# cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
  DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE

 This sets the display manager to KDM.

  DESKTOP=XFCE

 This sets the systemwide default desktop to XFCE. (It can be overridden per
 user.) The original poster probably wants DESKTOP=KDE instead.

  WINDOWMANAGER=XFCE
  DISPLAY=KDE

 I'm not sure either of those 2 are actually used, they're both not
 necessary
 in any case.

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in my installation i do not have /etc/sysconfig/desktop :-(
how is it possible while i can switch from GNOME to KDE environment at login
window ?
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Re: backup of my / filesystem

2008-12-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Chambers-7 wrote:
 
 
 So your script backsup what is in the list= line?
 
 

The list line contains the directories that you want backing up - these are
the items in the loop - so it does an rsync for each of the items in the
list line. you can add/change/remove to suit your system.

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Re: backup of my / filesystem

2008-12-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Chambers-7 wrote:
 
 
 So your script backsup what is in the list= line?
 
 

By the way I should have mentioned that this presumes that you have set up
ssh between the machines for root using ssh keys so that no passwords are
needed.  It also presumes you are allowing root ssh login on the machine
that you connect to that takes the backups.  Note also that the -X flag on
the rsync command will copy across the security contexts of files and
directories - if you are not running SElinux enabled then that flag is not
needed.

Not also that it is set up to remove files on the backup area where they no
longer exist in the machine being backed up.

Additionally it is worth mentioning that first time round this takes a while
as all files have to be copied, but in the future only files that have
changed get copied across - hence this is a very quick incremental backup
and the receiving disk has essentially an exact match to the directories
being backed up.  If you have two backup disks then you can alternate them
for each successive backup so that if there were some problem during the
backup process you would still have to previous copy.

This system also means that recovering files or directories and their
contents is very easy by simply doing a reverse rsync to copy back files
that you want - and it is also very simple to find files on the backup area
using the find command. 

Having this script located on the sbin area of each machine where you want
to run a backup is easy to do and each machine can be configured separately
by altering the script. I can usually run a backup from around 5 machines in
about a quarter of an hour once the system is set up.
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Applications tab in KDE

2008-12-24 Thread Alain Roger
Hi,

I was successful to install KDE on F10 and to use this wonderfull
environment.
However, i tried to install PostgreSQL from official Add/Remove Software
application (server + client) but after clicking on Apply, F10 downloaded
some packages and nothing more was done.
i was looking for if F10 installed those packages as normally a
/var/lib/pgsql/postgresql.conf file has to be created but nothing as such
and nothing also somewhere else (i tried find / -name 'postgresql.conf' as
root.

1. how is it possible ? the packages are not installed automatically ?
2. how can i checked if such package is correctly installed ?

after that, i decided to download it by myself in tmp folder and i installed
it.
first of all, this bin file installs by default under /opt/postgresql/8.3/
...

but my main issue is the following. after installation F10 has created a
tab/folder (PostgreSQL 8.3), under Application menu.

3. how can i create my own tab/folder for hosting programs ?
4. how can i move the postgreSQL 8.3 program files/folder/tab from
application menu to my new tab/folder from point 3 ?

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Re: fedora login window

2008-12-24 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 11:34 +0100, Alain Roger wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at
 wrote:
 John Austin wrote:
  I have this in mine
  Pretty sure that its not all necessary !!
 
  tarifa ~ 1001# cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
  DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE
 
 
 This sets the display manager to KDM.
 
  DESKTOP=XFCE
 
 This sets the systemwide default desktop to XFCE. (It can be
 overridden per
 user.) The original poster probably wants DESKTOP=KDE
 instead.
 
  WINDOWMANAGER=XFCE
  DISPLAY=KDE
 
 I'm not sure either of those 2 are actually used, they're both
 not necessary
 in any case.
 
Kevin Kofler
 
 
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 in my installation i do not have /etc/sysconfig/desktop :-(
 how is it possible while i can switch from GNOME to KDE environment at
 login window ?
 
 -- 
Assuming you have KDE installed then the choice between Gnome
and KDE will be in one of the login pull down menus
I haven't got the Gnome Display Manager on any of my machines
and so can't tell you exactly

If you wish to set the login window to KDM then
just create /etc/sysconfig/desktop with gedit or some other editor and
add the single line (with a RETURN char)

DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE


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Re: fedora login window

2008-12-24 Thread Alain Roger
thanks a lot, it works

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM, John Austin j...@jaa.org.uk wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 11:34 +0100, Alain Roger wrote:
 
 
  On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at
  wrote:
  John Austin wrote:
   I have this in mine
   Pretty sure that its not all necessary !!
  
   tarifa ~ 1001# cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
   DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE
 
 
  This sets the display manager to KDM.
 
   DESKTOP=XFCE
 
  This sets the systemwide default desktop to XFCE. (It can be
  overridden per
  user.) The original poster probably wants DESKTOP=KDE
  instead.
 
   WINDOWMANAGER=XFCE
   DISPLAY=KDE
 
  I'm not sure either of those 2 are actually used, they're both
  not necessary
  in any case.
 
 Kevin Kofler
 
 
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  in my installation i do not have /etc/sysconfig/desktop :-(
  how is it possible while i can switch from GNOME to KDE environment at
  login window ?
 
  --
 Assuming you have KDE installed then the choice between Gnome
 and KDE will be in one of the login pull down menus
 I haven't got the Gnome Display Manager on any of my machines
 and so can't tell you exactly

 If you wish to set the login window to KDM then
 just create /etc/sysconfig/desktop with gedit or some other editor and
 add the single line (with a RETURN char)

 DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE


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Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?

2008-12-24 Thread Jim

Michael Cronenworth wrote:

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?
From: Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
fedora-list@redhat.com

Date: 12/23/2008 02:26 PM


Yes FC8 , Thanks much.



I highly recommend you upgrade from Fedora 8. Updates will stop 
starting January 2009. Move to at least Fedora 9.


I have got Fedora 10 on two Laptops and it's still not very stable, I 
don't want to put it on my PC x86_64 until it's a little more stable, I 
prefer KDE over Gnome, and FC9 was a shamble.


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Re: Unable to login after latest FC10 updates (i386 on Dell GX270)

2008-12-24 Thread Janez Košmrlj



I tried now with the VESA X driver instead of the default RADEON driver and it 
all works now. So it has to be something with the video driver.


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video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread Neal Becker
libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz  
firefox-3.0.5-1.fc10.x86_64
nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.x86_64
nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.i386

This link crashes firefox:
tinyurl.com/6lhxy8

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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread Steve Berg

 libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
 firefox-3.0.5-1.fc10.x86_64
 nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.x86_64
 nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.i386

 This link crashes firefox:
 tinyurl.com/6lhxy8

If you've installed the 64 bit flash plugin you shouldn't need the
nspluginwrapper.i386 package.  Unless you're running some other 32 bit
plugin besides flash.  Dunno if that could cause the crash but I do
remember it got in the way of the 64 bit flash working correctly until I
removed the older 32 flash stuff.

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Re: VMWare 6.5 and Fedora 10

2008-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
Alain Roger wrote:

 I'm reopening this issue not as such but as complementary information.
 when i run F10 (without desktop effect) under KDE, it always starts in
 800x600 under VMWare 6.5 whereas last session i set it up to 1200 x
 800 or to 1152 x 864.
 moreover, i setup the KDE Manager to display the same login windows as
 F10 KDE live... but nothing is displayed.

 so where could be the problem ?
 thx.
Install vmware toolsbut don't allow it to change the xorg.conf. 
After that, when you start your F10 and log in go to konsole and type
vmware-user.  If you have guest fix set it'll be fine.

Remember, F10 was released *after* ws 6.5.

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Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?

2008-12-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jim wrote:
 I have got Fedora 10 on two Laptops and it's still not very stable, I
 don't want to put it on my PC x86_64 until it's a little more stable, I
 prefer KDE over Gnome, and FC9 was a shamble.

FYI, the KDE in F9 has been upgraded too the same version as in F10.

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Remote Desktop (F10)

2008-12-24 Thread Steven Stern
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System - Preferences - Internet and Network - Remote Desktop seems to
start a VNC server.

1)  Where are the configuration files for this located?
2)  How secure is it?
3)  It has an option for encryption. How secure is that?

Setting up a new Fedora 10 machine and am looking to access it remotely.
I plan on using an non-standard port, but what else can I do?


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Re: Remote Desktop (F10)

2008-12-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: Remote Desktop  (F10)
From: Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com
To: For users of Fedora Core releases fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: 12/24/2008 08:42 AM



1)  Where are the configuration files for this located?


It's all saved in gconf. /desktop/gnome/remote_access


2)  How secure is it?
3)  It has an option for encryption. How secure is that?


I would say it is secure enough.



Setting up a new Fedora 10 machine and am looking to access it remotely.
I plan on using an non-standard port, but what else can I do?



Alternate ports are broken at the moment. See my bug[1].

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475724

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Re: Pasuspender broken in F10?

2008-12-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: Pasuspender broken in F10?
From: Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net
To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: 12/24/2008 12:55 AM


Has anyone been able to use pasuspender successfully in F10?  Here's
what I get when I try to start it; it looks like the argument parsing
code is now working right.  Also the help function looks weird since it
doesn't give any program to start, and it doesn't correspond to the man
page.



Seems broken to me, too. I cannot find an existing bug on it. Please 
open a bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/


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Re: Intel i7

2008-12-24 Thread Vnpenguin
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Louis E Garcia II
louis...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I'm looking at the Dell XPS Studio with the new intel i7 chip. Anyone
 have experience with this new chipset with fedora?

 -Thanks


Not with Fedora, but we have a CentOS 5.2 server with this new
processor. It works well :-)
=
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 26
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920  @ 2.67GHz
stepping: 4
cpu MHz : 1600.000
cache size  : 8192 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 8
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 4
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 11
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse
 sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc ida pni monitor
ds_cpl vmx est tm2 cx16 xtpr popcnt lahf_lm
bogomips: 5349.45
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual

 uname -a
Linux foo.bar 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5 #1 SMP Wed Nov 12 09:19:49 EST 2008
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I think you can run Fedora without problem :)

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Re: Remote Desktop (F10)

2008-12-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop  (F10)
From: Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
fedora-list@redhat.com

Date: 12/24/2008 08:46 AM



Alternate ports are broken at the moment. See my bug[1].

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475724



I forgot to mention that you can easily get around this with an iptables 
rule. Just port forward the local port you want to listen on for 
requests from the outside to port 5900.


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Re: Pasuspender broken in F10?

2008-12-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 Has anyone been able to use pasuspender successfully in F10?  Here's
 what I get when I try to start it; it looks like the argument parsing
 code is now working right.  Also the help function looks weird since it
 doesn't give any program to start, and it doesn't correspond to the man
 page.
 
 $ pasuspender jackd
 Failure to suspend: Invalid argument
 $ pasuspender -- jackd
 Failure to suspend: Invalid argument
 $ pasuspender --help
 pasuspender [options] ... 
 
   -h, --helpShow this help
   --version Show version
   -s, --server=SERVER   The name of the server to connect to
 
 
If I am reading the help correctly, shouldn't it be:

pasuspender -s jackd

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F9: Vnc's desktop window prevents right-side toolbar access

2008-12-24 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

I noticed while doing a remote Vnc session that my Vnc
desktop is showing the right-side scrollbar covering my
right-side pop-out toolbar - thus preventing any access
to it.

Tried this in various window sizes and all performs the
same way.

Thanks
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Re: how can bring up eth0:2 only

2008-12-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 04:41 +0800, adrian kok wrote:
 Hi all
 
 how can bring up eth0:2 only
 
 ifconfig eth0:2 up is not working
 
 I have to use service network restart
 
 but it restarts all network interfaces
 
 Thank you
 
 
 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com 
 
How about:
ifup eth0:2
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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:15 -0600, Steve Berg wrote:
  libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
  firefox-3.0.5-1.fc10.x86_64
  nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.x86_64
  nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.i386
 
  This link crashes firefox:
  tinyurl.com/6lhxy8
 
 If you've installed the 64 bit flash plugin you shouldn't need the
 nspluginwrapper.i386 package.  Unless you're running some other 32 bit
 plugin besides flash.  Dunno if that could cause the crash but I do
 remember it got in the way of the 64 bit flash working correctly until I
 removed the older 32 flash stuff.
 
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F10 x86_64, Firefox 64 bit, 3.0.5

This link picked up the following mp4 which was played successfully by
64 bit mplayer-plugin

http://a10.video2.blip.tv/115092174/Mindsciencesa-ApolloRobbinsAtTheMagicOfConsciousnessSymposium326.mp4

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RE: pymol vs Fedora 10

2008-12-24 Thread Jack Howarth
   The problems with pymol crashing under Fedora 10
using the radeon drivers appear to be resolved now
(at least in fedora-testing). FYI.
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Re: Updating and installing packages without an internet connection

2008-12-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 12:55 -0800, suvayu ali wrote:
 How would this work exactly in my case, since I would be downloading
 the updates / new packages on Ubuntu?

You can't do it with cross distro versions. You're best best woul dbe to
use a fedora live CD.

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Re: Can't get Correct Time in Fedora 8

2008-12-24 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 07:32:44PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 Paul W. Frields wrote:
  su -# provide root password
  service ntpd stop
  ntpdate 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org   # or your server of choice
  service ntpd start
  exit
 
 I presume you're stopping ntpd because otherwise ntpdate complains
 that the NTP socket is in use, exiting?
 
 To avoid that, just use the -u option to ntpdate and it will be able
 to update while ntpd is running.

Good tip, thanks Todd!

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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread Neal Becker
John Austin wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:15 -0600, Steve Berg wrote:
  libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
  firefox-3.0.5-1.fc10.x86_64
  nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.x86_64
  nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc10.i386
 
  This link crashes firefox:
  tinyurl.com/6lhxy8
 
 If you've installed the 64 bit flash plugin you shouldn't need the
 nspluginwrapper.i386 package.  Unless you're running some other 32 bit
 plugin besides flash.  Dunno if that could cause the crash but I do
 remember it got in the way of the 64 bit flash working correctly until I
 removed the older 32 flash stuff.
 
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 F10 x86_64, Firefox 64 bit, 3.0.5
 
 This link picked up the following mp4 which was played successfully by
 64 bit mplayer-plugin
 
 http://a10.video2.blip.tv/115092174/Mindsciencesa-ApolloRobbinsAtTheMagicOfConsciousnessSymposium326.mp4
 

Strange.  Both links crash firefox here, with or without nspluginwrapper.i386


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Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??

2008-12-24 Thread William Case
Thanks Tim;

Some of these questions were meant simply as examples of the kind of
thing I don't understand.  Nonetheless, to flesh them out:
On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:30 +1030, Tim wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote:
* What is the difference between alsa and pulseaudio?
 
 Major differences:  Pulseaudio can produce different sounds at the same
 time (e.g. your IM program can bleep at you while your music program
 carries on playing music, and do so without crashes, hangs, hold-ups for
 one to finish, or nasty noises), and with individual volume controls for
 each (e.g. your IM bleeps subdued, while your music may be reasonably
 loud).
 
That begs the question, when I use the volume control gui the Device:
field gives me five options:
 1. HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer)
 2. Analog Devices AD1986A (OSS Mixer)
 3. Playback: HDA Nvida - AD198X Analog (PulseAudio Mixer)
 4. Capture: Monitor of HDA NVidia - AD198x (PulseAudio Mixer)
 5. Capture: HDA NVidia - AD198x Analog (PulseAudio Mixer)

HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer) seems to be the default.  

1. Gives me a whole range of adjustments for different channels.  (I
assume channels means different sources e.g. Master, Headphone, PCM
etc.). 
2. gives me two choices and 
3., 4., 5. gives me only Master.  
Which should I choose and why?

Help is less than useless.  There should be a man page but damned if I
can find anything helpful.  man pulseaudio has techish for installing
and setting up the backend but nothing that might be useful to an audio
newbie.

In case it helps:
]$ lspci returns 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High
Definition Audio (rev a2) on a ASUS M2NPV-VM motherboard; Fedora 10,
Linux kernel  2.6.27.7-134.fc10.x86_64.

If I should be using HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer), why do I have PulseAudio
options?

* What is the difference between Master, PCM, Front, Line-in, CD,
  PC-Speaker etc. ?
 
 Master is the overall volume control over everything, the same control
 that you're used to on your stereo system.
 
 PCM is just the volume control for generated sounds (Waves, MP3s, etc.).
 
 Front is the volume control for the front speakers, if you have a system
 with front and rear speakers (3 - 5, or more, speaker systems).  Used as
 a balance control between front versus rear sound levels.
 
 Line-in will control the volume from the analogue audio line-in in
 socket (which may accept signals from something like 0.2 to 2 volts of
 audio, compare that to microphone sockets, which may use something in
 the range of 0.0001 to 0.010 volts, i.e. there's a large factor of
 difference between line and microphone signal levels).
 
 CD will (generally) control the volume from the (3 or 4 pin) analogue
 audio cable between the CD/DVD drive and the sound card.  Although it's
 *possible* that systems digitally decoding the audio stream from the
 data from the drive (down the IDE/SATA cable) may *also* pay attention
 to that volume control, it's generally a hardware control of the line
 input on the audio card.
 
 PC speaker controls, if it's connected, the motherboard beeper volume
 through the sound card.  On some systems, that's a cable between the
 beeper output and a sound card input, on others its handled without
 additional cabling, and others it can't be done.
 
 These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you
 never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and
 burbles, etc.) to the system.  

I will turn them off except for Master and Front.  I will experiment
with PC Speaker.  Of course these are only available to me if I use the
default alsa mixer setting.

By the way, I have a Multimedia Systems Selector frontend which gives
various perms and combs which don't make sense given the above remarks
and which 'help' says to leave alone if you are not an advanced user
which, obviously, I am not.  The test beep seems to work on just about
any combination.

There is also a sound preferences gui that is set to autodetect that
seems to also test out with any setting giving a long bp.

It is all very confusing.

 And when you do use them, it's dependent
 on the card whether the nominal position for the level control is all
 the way up (for simplicity's sake), or part way up (allowing you to
 listen to signals that are really too low in level).  And again, there's
 variances as to where the partial position may be (e.g. half way, or
 three quarters up).  Also, what's connected to the mixer plays a role
 there, whether it has a low output level that will need boosting, the
 same level as the card expects, or a high level that will normally be
 too much.
 
* How is sound related to video ?

 Sound is the sound, video is the picture...  The question is too vague
 to be answerable.
 
Sorry, I didn't mean to be vague.  Most of my sound problems over the
years seem to have been related to sound that goes with video of
different kinds - Flash being the most 

Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote:
 Strange.  Both links crash firefox here, with or without
 nspluginwrapper.i386

Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm going to 
explore getting flash to work on Konqueror.  I'll use FF as little as possible 
until this version is replaced.

Anne


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F10 64

2008-12-24 Thread Robert Karge
Hello,

I have a new system with an ASUS PQ5 motherboard and Intel dual core 64
processor.

I'm trying to load F10 64 the following occurs:

Loading vmlinuz...
Loading initrd.img
...
...
.ready
Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)...ok

   CRC error
System Halted

The live disk won't load and it ends it's attempt with:

synch failed
system halted

Help!

Thanks and happy holidays all around.

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Looking for Ideas on a User-friendly Join Process

2008-12-24 Thread Marc Ferguson
Hi,

My name is Marc Ferguson.  I recently joined the websites group for Fedora
Project and I've been assigned to help figure out a very universal and
user-friendly way to tweak http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora.  Can you
please respond to this thread and let us know what your process is for
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the same page and that the joining process is much easier, thus increasing
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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 19:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote:
  Strange.  Both links crash firefox here, with or without
  nspluginwrapper.i386
 
 Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm going to 
 explore getting flash to work on Konqueror.  I'll use FF as little as 
 possible 
 until this version is replaced.
 
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But is it flash ??

Have you got Real Player installed? - it crashed Firefox for me!

I replaced Real Player with mplayer and mplayer-plugin and have the following
setup with no nspluginwrapper

tarifa plugins 1004# rpm -qa|grep -i wrapper
tcp_wrappers-libs-7.6-52.fc9.x86_64
tcp_wrappers-7.6-52.fc9.x86_64
tarifa plugins 1005# 


The vlc plugin is currently disabled in Firefox

tarifa ~ 1001# cd /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
tarifa plugins 1002# ls -l
total 12452
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9526312 2008-12-20 18:30 libflashplayer.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  43 2008-12-16 16:18 libnpjp2.so - 
/usr/java/jre1.6.0_12/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  110448 2008-12-05 04:36 libvlcplugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  611065 2008-12-15 11:55 mplayerplug-in-dvx.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  611073 2008-12-15 11:55 mplayerplug-in-qt.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  611097 2008-12-15 11:55 mplayerplug-in-rm.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  612089 2008-12-15 11:55 mplayerplug-in.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  611065 2008-12-15 11:55 mplayerplug-in-wmp.so

mplayer 64 bit codecs
tarifa plugins 1003# ls -l /usr/lib64/codecs/
total 544
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  65421 2008-12-14 10:50 cook.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 401169 2008-12-14 10:50 drvc.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  74376 2008-12-14 10:50 sipr.so

I compiled the mplayer-plugins as I couldn't find an rpm

This is the best media setup I have ever had with Fedora !!
(For what I usually am interested in)

John

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Re: Updating and installing packages without an internet connection

2008-12-24 Thread suvayu ali
2008/12/24 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com

 On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 12:55 -0800, suvayu ali wrote:
  How would this work exactly in my case, since I would be downloading
  the updates / new packages on Ubuntu?

 You can't do it with cross distro versions. You're best best woul dbe to
 use a fedora live CD.


yes that seems like the most simple solution for me at the time. I already
have a F10 live CD lying around.

Thanks a lot everyone.  :)

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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:54:51 +
John Austin wrote:

 I compiled the mplayer-plugins as I couldn't find an rpm

I think mplayer-plugin changed to gecko-mediaplayer (or something
like that) in the repos. Not sure why you'd want to remove
mplayer from the name. For me, mplayer works far better on far
more kinds of media than any other player out there (even
incredibly weird old junk if you find lots of codecs on the
web to populate /usr/lib/codecs with - and run 32 bit mplayer
so it can use them). It may have the world's worst human
interface (with 47,629 command line options), but it seems to have
that interface because the developers care more about making it
play all the media in the universe than about making it seem
slick. I wish more linux developers had the same mindset :-).

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Re: F10 64 - CRC error .... system halted

2008-12-24 Thread Jim Cornette

Robert Karge wrote:

Hello,

I have a new system with an ASUS PQ5 motherboard and Intel dual core 64
processor.

I'm trying to load F10 64 the following occurs:

Loading vmlinuz...
Loading initrd.img
...
...
.ready
Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)...ok

   CRC error
System Halted


I searched the error you posted and ended up with one solution someone 
said works.


With the translation from this site, the way past the error is with SATA 
and IDE

It translated pretty decent.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=itu=http://www.fedoraonline.it/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php%3Fviewmode%3Dflat%26order%3DASC%26topic_id%3D6630%26forum%3D1%26move%3Dnextsa=Xoi=translateresnum=4ct=resultprev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522crc%2Berror%2522%2Bedd%253Doff%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dall




The live disk won't load and it ends it's attempt with:

synch failed
system halted

Help!

Thanks and happy holidays all around.

Bob Karge




You might search for CRC error and edd=off, I got several hits with the 
search.


Added to your subject to describe problem.

Happy Holidays!

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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-24 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Qua 24 Dez 2008, Anne Wilson escreveu:
 On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote:
  Strange.  Both links crash firefox here, with or without
  nspluginwrapper.i386

 Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm
 going to explore getting flash to work on Konqueror.  I'll use FF as
 little as possible until this version is replaced.

Same thing here. In special, Java applets make it crash a lot (open jdk 
vm).

[]'s
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Re: Pasuspender broken in F10?

2008-12-24 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 09:10 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
  Has anyone been able to use pasuspender successfully in F10?  Here's
  what I get when I try to start it; it looks like the argument parsing
  code is now working right.  Also the help function looks weird since it
  doesn't give any program to start, and it doesn't correspond to the man
  page.
  
  $ pasuspender jackd
  Failure to suspend: Invalid argument
  $ pasuspender -- jackd
  Failure to suspend: Invalid argument
  $ pasuspender --help
  pasuspender [options] ... 
  
-h, --helpShow this help
--version Show version
-s, --server=SERVER   The name of the server to connect to
  
  
 If I am reading the help correctly, shouldn't it be:
 
 pasuspender -s jackd

In fact: no.  But you have lit the way to the correct invocation:
pasuspender -s pulseaudio -- jackd jackd-args
It looks like the old pasuspender defaulted the server name to
pulseaudio, but the latest one doesn't.  This is a bug, at least in
the documentation, which is confusing.

I have filed this as a bug.

jon

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I'm a newcomer to Fedora 10 Live CD

2008-12-24 Thread Pedro Izecksohn
  startx prints to stderr and exits:
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.4241


X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5 x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain
2.6.27.5-117.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 18 11:58:53 EST 2008 x86_64
Build Date: 16 November 2008  08:28:40PM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.5.3-5.fc10
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Dec 24 22:49:24 2008
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
New driver is nv
(==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

  This computer is a HP Pavilion dv2000. The video board is NVIDIA
MCP67M. The screen resolution is 1280x800. It is a generic PnP
Monitor.

  I'm not too worried, as I downloaded the CD to install on another
different computer. I was just trying to preview it.

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Re: I'm a newcomer to Fedora 10 Live CD

2008-12-24 Thread Jim Cornette

Pedro Izecksohn wrote:

  startx prints to stderr and exits:
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.4241


X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5 x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain
2.6.27.5-117.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 18 11:58:53 EST 2008 x86_64
Build Date: 16 November 2008  08:28:40PM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.5.3-5.fc10
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Dec 24 22:49:24 2008
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
New driver is nv
(==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

  This computer is a HP Pavilion dv2000. The video board is NVIDIA
MCP67M. The screen resolution is 1280x800. It is a generic PnP
Monitor.

  I'm not too worried, as I downloaded the CD to install on another
different computer. I was just trying to preview it.



You may need to run with the vesa driver. I'm  not familiar with running 
the live CD but you may need to specify the vesa driver at boot.


With a Compaq Presario F700, it does not work with either the nv or 
nouveau driver so the vesa needed used. I now run the binary nvidia 
driver which works relatively decent, but the vesa driver let me get the 
GUI running initially.


Jim

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movie question

2008-12-24 Thread adrian kok
Hi 

I would like to play movie but amd get an error helow 

The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-2 System
Stream demuxer plugin which is not installed.

How I play the movie?

Thank you

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Re: movie question

2008-12-24 Thread Antonio Olivares



--- On Wed, 12/24/08, adrian kok adriankok2...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

 From: adrian kok adriankok2...@yahoo.com.hk
 Subject: movie question
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 7:29 PM
 Hi 
 
 I would like to play movie but amd get an error helow 
 
 The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-2 System
 Stream demuxer plugin which is not installed.
 
 How I play the movie?
 
 Thank you
 
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I will recommend you go to the page :

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f10.html

There you have several options, ie, mplayer, xine, totem-xine, vlc, .., etc.  
Configure rpmfusion as recommended in above page, also configure livna for 
libdvdcss?? and you should be able to play any movie that you can get your 
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screen settings

2008-12-24 Thread charles zeitler
when i click on system settings- screen my display goes black
 my computer locks up. any suggestions?

thanks

charles zeitler

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Re: screen settings

2008-12-24 Thread Antonio Olivares



--- On Wed, 12/24/08, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com
 Subject: screen settings
 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
 fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 7:52 PM
 when i click on system settings- screen my
 display goes black
  my computer locks up. any suggestions?
 
 thanks
 
 charles zeitler
 
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Which Fedora version are you running?
Which card do you have?
$ su -
passwd:
# lspci

Is this a fresh installation?, GNOME/KDE/XFCE which Desktop environment are you 
running?

Depending on your hardware and Fedora version, there are several things that 
you can tell us so that someone can try to help you here.  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: nautilus VS samba

2008-12-24 Thread Adam D. Ligas
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 18:28 -0500, fred smith wrote:
 the old win98 I have in a vmware session. No problem.
 
 But in nautilus on the fedora 10 box it just says:
 
   Unable to mount location
   Failed to retrieve share list from server.
 
 Now this is weird: On that same laptop, as an ordinary user, I can open
 a terminal and type in this command:
 
   smbclient //192.168.2.12/dirname mypassword -U myusername 
 
 and voila, I'm connected to my shared home dir on the Centos box.

In the Nautilus Connect to Server dialog, are you entering a User
Name?

On my F9 laptop, I find if I do that the share won't mount.  I have to
just enter the server and share information only.  Then, when it tries
to use the share, it prompts me for the username and password and it
works correctly.

It didn't used to be this way, and I've gotten it to lead to two icons
for the same Samba share, but I haven't had the time to install/test it
on F10 and file the bugzilla if it still exists.

- Adam

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Re: nautilus VS samba

2008-12-24 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:13:08PM -0500, Adam D. Ligas wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 18:28 -0500, fred smith wrote:
  the old win98 I have in a vmware session. No problem.
  
  But in nautilus on the fedora 10 box it just says:
  
  Unable to mount location
  Failed to retrieve share list from server.
  
  Now this is weird: On that same laptop, as an ordinary user, I can open
  a terminal and type in this command:
  
  smbclient //192.168.2.12/dirname mypassword -U myusername 
  
  and voila, I'm connected to my shared home dir on the Centos box.
 
 In the Nautilus Connect to Server dialog, are you entering a User
 Name?

For that particular computer, it never goes as far as to ask for
user credentials--it errors out instantly when I click on the icon
for that specific computer.

 
 On my F9 laptop, I find if I do that the share won't mount.  I have to
 just enter the server and share information only.  Then, when it tries
 to use the share, it prompts me for the username and password and it
 works correctly.
 
 It didn't used to be this way, and I've gotten it to lead to two icons
 for the same Samba share, but I haven't had the time to install/test it
 on F10 and file the bugzilla if it still exists.
 
 - Adam
 
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Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?

2008-12-24 Thread Thomas Cameron

Ian Pilcher wrote:

Mail Lists wrote:

  (1)  Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead
or alive ?


I'm strongly considering it.  Almost all of the applications that I use
regularly are GTK-based anyway, and Red Hat and Fedora have always been
more focused on GNOME than KDE, so it's hard to see any reason to
continue with KDE now that the things that I like about it have been
sacrificed on the altar of the KDE developers' grand vision.


Good thing you're not bitter, eh?  :-D

I kid, I kid!

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Re: screen settings

2008-12-24 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 12/24/08, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: screen settings
 To: olivares14...@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:09 PM
 On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Antonio Olivares
 olivares14...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
 
 
 
  --- On Wed, 12/24/08, charles zeitler
 cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   From: charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com
   Subject: screen settings
   To: Community assistance, encouragement,
 and advice for using Fedora. 
  fedora-list@redhat.com
   Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 7:52 PM
   when i click on system settings-
 screen my
   display goes black
my computer locks up. any suggestions?
  
   thanks
  
   charles zeitler
  
 
 
  Which Fedora version are you running?
 
 
 10
 
 
  Which card do you have?
  $ su -
  passwd:
  # lspci
 
 
 radeon x1600 (was 9550 - same problem)
 
 
 
  Is this a fresh installation?
 
 
 yes
 
 , GNOME/KDE/XFCE which Desktop environment are you running?
 
 
 kde
 
 
  Depending on your hardware and Fedora version, there
 are several things
  that you can tell us so that someone can try to help
 you here.
 
  Regards,
 
  Antonio
 
 
 
  thanks for the quick reply
 
 charles zeitler
 
 
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  The Whole  of
 The Law
 
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ATI/Radeon cards are kind of problematic.  Guess you were bitten in some way as 
I have :(, as I have an integrated ATI card:

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 
Series]

while I can at least run it, before my machine was freezing for no apparent 
reason.  Do you have any proprietary drivers installed?

Also do you have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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smart in f10

2008-12-24 Thread oleksandr korneta

hello,

smart (smart-1.1-56.fc10.rpm) segfaults while reloading cache. According 
to traceback message it must this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/smart/+bug/302345 which has 
been fixed in the trunk for quite some time 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844


are there any chances that this will make it to fedora repos anytime soon?

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Re: screen settings

2008-12-24 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 12/24/08, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: screen settings
 To: olivares14...@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 9:33 PM
 
 
  ATI/Radeon cards are kind of problematic.  Guess you
 were bitten in some
  way as I have :(, as I have an integrated ATI card:
 
  01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies
 Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200
  Series]
 
  while I can at least run it, before my machine was
 freezing for no apparent
  reason.  Do you have any proprietary drivers
 installed?
 
 
 radeontool ?
I actually do not know much about these, all I've seen is the Xorg module 
radeon and another driver called radeonhd?  I do not know where it comes from.  
Maybe someone on the list may help here?  
 
 
  Also do you have an xorg.conf file in
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
 
 
 no. ( that's odd )
Well, Fedora 10 does not create an xorg.conf file by default so it is not odd.  
But however sometimes the computer and monitor do not work well togther that an 
xorg.conf file fixes things up.  For instance, I could not get a display better 
than 800x600 with no xorg.conf file.  However I created one by starting up 
Fedora in level 3(start up fedora and press a key when starting up, then type a 
3 after rhgb and quiet parameter) then doing 
$ su -
passwd:
# Xorg -configure
tested the driver with the instructions provided
then 
# cp xorg.conf.net /etc/X11/xorg.conf
then 
# exit
get back to regular account 
and running startx from prompt.  
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Antonio
 
 
 charles zeitler
 
 
 
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Shall  Be
  The Whole  of
 The Law
 
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Hope this helps in some way.

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: I'm a newcomer to Fedora 10 Live CD

2008-12-24 Thread Pedro Izecksohn
 I'm  not familiar with running the live CD

  So you should not answer.

 You may need to run with the vesa driver.

  A proper xorg.conf was missing. I needed to create one with: X -configure
  Then I used it with:
X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
export DISPLAY=:0.0
gnome-session
  and now I'm root inside Firefox.

  Could someone fix the appropriate script?

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Security In F/OSS KDE [Was Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?]

2008-12-24 Thread Peter Gordon
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 14:30 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
 [...]
 several years of experience with it on 4 different platforms (OpenBSD,
 Fedora, OpenSuse, and FreeBSD) have convinced me that KDE has security
 holes (or bugs) which permit exploits which cause me lots of trouble.

This happens with all software - and is not a trait of KDE alone. This,
I believe, gives Free and Open-source Software (F/OSS) one of its
major advantages over proprietary alternatives: The entire world, in
theory, has access to peruse through and fix things in the source code -
instead of one company or a subset of people therein. Security issues
are thus found and fixed in a more timely and correct fashion. 
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[Bug 476325] install error

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476325


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--- Comment #1 from Gianluca Varisco gvari...@redhat.com  2008-12-24 08:57:09 
EDT ---
Did you already check the MD5/SHA1 of your DVD media? Does it match?

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[Bug 476325] install error

2008-12-24 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from sjonno...@comcast.net  2008-12-24 11:00:04 EDT ---
Yes I did and they matched.  I burned another copy in a different burner and it
worked flawlessly, must be a hardware issue with that particular burner.

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