Re: Fedora 10

[Sachin Murudkar]

Thanks Kevin

I am installing openvpn on a linux system (Fedora 10) I tried installing
openvpn with lzo and openssl but how do I go a head I tried few commands
mentioned below as given in the document after installing openvpn and they
worked.

/usr/local/sbin/openvpn --genkey --secret key
/usr/local/sbin/openvpn --test-crypto --secret key
/usr/local/sbin/openvpn --config sample-config-files/loopback-client

How do I goahead now ??? pls let me know if I am doing somthing wrong, your
help is required.


Regards

Sachin


On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:50:12 +0530
> "Sachin Murudkar"  wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I am using fedora 10 I need a client vpn to connect to my off systems
> > can any one guide me.
>
> What VPN server do those "off systems" run? Are they Linux boxes?
> Cicsco? Something else?
>
> If they are all Linux machines, I would very much recommend openvpn.
> 'yum install openvpn' and read the quickstart howto on openvpn.net.
>
> If it's cicsco you can use the 'vpnc' package.
>
> If it's a generic ipsec server you can use 'openswan'.
>
> kevin
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Re: disabling selinux entirely

[Thierry Sayegh De Bellis]

John Aldrich wrote:
I thought that by setting selinux to "disabled" in the config file, I 
wouldn't be bothered by it's alerts any more. How do I stop SELinux from 
running, period? I don't want any alerts from SELinux regarding stuff I'm 
trying to install.


  
I am in no way an expert at SELinux which I just do not use but wouldn't 
something like

echo 0 > /selinux/enforce
do the trick as a workaround till you perform said reboot?

just wondering out loud...

Thierry

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Re: Fedora 10

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Sachin Murudkar  wrote:
> Thanks Kevin
>
> I am installing openvpn on a linux system (Fedora 10) I tried installing
> openvpn with lzo and openssl but how do I go a head I tried few commands
> mentioned below as given in the document after installing openvpn and they
> worked.
>
> /usr/local/sbin/openvpn --genkey --secret key
> /usr/local/sbin/openvpn --test-crypto --secret key
> /usr/local/sbin/openvpn --config sample-config-files/loopback-client
>
> How do I goahead now ??? pls let me know if I am doing somthing wrong, your
> help is required.


I found this HOWTO [1] to be very clear, have you tried it?

[1] http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/howto.html


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Re: disabling selinux entirely

[Tony Molloy]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 07:34:16 Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 11:29 -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > Yes, reboot required.  It can only be done safely at boot or early
> > init (it unhooks selinux from the kernel code paths altogether).
>
> I thought that using the setenforce command could disable it, there and
> then.  Configuration options, in /etc, to disable it, taking care of
> what happens the next time you boot.
>
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setenforce  can only be used to change from enforceing to permissive and vica 
versa. Disabled requires a reboot.

Tony

> [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686
>
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RealPlayer crash since some days F10

[Joachim Backes]

Hi,

I applied all F10 updates. Since some days, trying to play .rm files 
filed with realplayer 11 dies with:


realplay /tmp/*.rm

Opening ALSA PCM device default
1b65768b-3541-768e-206d20a1-4ca3b03a is dumped

and error message

"The application realplay.bin has crashed"

in the gnome bug reporting tool.

Somebody has similar problems?

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 07 January 2009 23:59:13 Craig White wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:46 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Craig White  
wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:36 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Craig White  
wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 16:40 -0500, Mark Haney wrote:
> > >> >> I'm still waiting on someone to give me a good rational reason why
> > >> >> this change was made.  If I get one that makes sense, then I might
> > >> >> shut up about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the
> > >> >> wheel to no purpose.
> > >> >
> > >> > 
> > >> > and that's been discussed on this list many, many, many times since
> > >> > I think it was Jim Wilkinson started playing with this concept of
> > >> > NetworkManager and userland.
> > >>
> > >> People who make comments like this have probably never tried to roam
> > >> around with a wifi connection.
> > >
> > > 
> > > I don't see any bug reports with your e-mail address attached...
> >
> > I use pembo13 instead of pemboa for bug reports, pemboa is just for
> > mailing lists, same email provider.
>
> 
> WPA supplicant sucks on all OS's  ;-(
> 
How odd, then, that this laptop running Mandriva and my EeePC running Xandros 
have no problem with it.
>
> > And I was referring to Mark Haney's comments.
>
> 
> so was I originally...userland control is essential to the growth of
> Linux.
>
> The people who gripe about NM seem to always be the ones who are more
> than capable of becoming superuser so NM seems to be a barrier to them.
>
No.  Many of the people who gripe about NM are ones who have followed every 
instruction and advice given and still can't get the d** thing to work.  
I'm sure it's wonderful when it does, but you can't stick your head in the 
sand and pretend that there are no problems.

Anne



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Re: System freeze with ATI

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 06 January 2009 21:51:48 Giuseppe Fuggiano wrote:
> 2009/1/6 Bill Davidsen :
> > I have been running since the pre-beta and haven't had an issue yet, on
> > my Acer "Extensa" using ATI drivers, so you can assume it's not some
> > general defect hitting all ATI laptops. I doubt it promises more than
> > that, however
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> If I use Ubuntu with open source drivers, the same issue occurs.  But
> switching to the proprietary drivers everything works fine, with no
> freeze.  I am unsure to try fglrx in Fedora right now, because I've
> heard that fglrx isn't supported with the current Xorg.
>
> What video card do you have, exactly?
>
I have a radeon mobility X600, so very similar to yours, Giuseppe.  This might 
help:

http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance#Desktop_Effects_causes_random_freezes

It seems to have completely cured my problems.

Anne


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Re: A Possible Reason for Problems with Flash Player

[Bryn M. Reeves]

Dave Feustel wrote:

After attempting to install the Firefox Flash plugin,
I kept getting SELinux alerts every time I started Firefox.
After deleting all the files in the directory
/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper, I continued to get SELinux alerts.


That was probably not a good idea :) Better to remove the RPM to clear 
up files under /usr/lib.



The flash plugin attempts to make the stack executable, which
SELinux does not permit on my system.


Weird - I have libflashsupport installed on a number of 32/64 bit f9 
systems and don't seem to have come across this problem. All of these 
boxes have SELinux set to enforcing.


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Re: A Possible Reason for Problems with Flash Player

[Bryn M. Reeves]

Kam Leo wrote:

That is not the flash-plugin. You are listing the files in the
nspluginwrapper directory. Try "su -c "rpm -q flash-plugin". If
flash-plugin is not installed go to http://www.adobe.com/flashplayer/
and download the rpm package. You should receive
flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm.



Sorry for omitted a quote in the above. That should be

su -c 'rpm -q flash-plugin'



No need for root privileges to query the RPM database (you only need 
root for -i/-U/-F/-e etc.).


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Re: Single mouse click interpreted as a double click

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 07 January 2009 22:43:00 Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 20:22 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 January 2009 13:45:50 Martín Marqués wrote:
> > > 2009/1/7 Paul Smith :
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > I am using F10 and I am noticing recently that when I click once on
> > > > the mouse button, sometimes, my single click is interpreted as a
> > > > double one. How can I fix it? Is this a bug?
> > >
> > > Are you sure that the mouse is OK?
> >
> > I don't know about his, but I do know that I'm having some very odd mouse
> > experiences.  Lately my mouse appears to often do a double-click when I'm
> > pasting from the clip-board, so that 'Getting Started' comes out like
> > 'GetGetting Startedting Started'.  It feels almost like the repeat
> > setting of a keyboard being to quick to cut in.
> >
> > Anne
>
> You can configure the sensitivity in
> System->Preferences->Hardware->Mouse under Gnome. I would expect
> something similar in KDE.
>
I could have sworn that I'd checked everything in systemsettings, but there it 
was.  Hopefully that's another problem solved.  Thanks Aaron.

Anne


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Work area in F10

[Antonio M]

After this morning I can select only one area of work
Is aomeone else experiencing same problem???

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Re: OT: Web design applications

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 01:18:38 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > All very confusing.  Nvu from http://www.net2.com/nvu/ looks to be
> > exactly what I need, but it seems that nvu is concentrating on windows
> > and kompozer is being recommended for linux.  Kompozer as I knew it must
> > be an older version.
>
> Kompozer is actually the newer version. Nvu 1.0 is from 2005, Kompozer has
> a release from 2007 (0.7.10).
>
Yes, the one I'd used before was the older version.  I installed the new one, 
but it wouldn't run.  I'm assuming some problem working with KDE4, but I was 
short on time, so I didn't pursue the matter.  I found that I could work in 
Quanta+, though, and it wasn't much of a problem to find things, even though 
the layout is different.

Thanks for answering

Anne


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Re: MP3 playback in XMMS

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 21:11:16 -0500, John wrote:

> Thanks... I apologize, but it annoyed me. I looked on RPMFusion's website 
> and they didn't list xmms-mp3, so I assumed there was a hidden repo 
> somewhere. Thanks for clearing that up.

On the main web page, notice the table at the bottom with the title
"Browse available packages". They do list xmms-mp3:

http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/repoview/X.group.html


Though, the main web pages are in a Wiki, and some pages are out-of-date
or contain errors. Such as the link to "Information on the various
packages RPM Fusion distributes" (-> http://rpmfusion.org/Package ) near
the top the page. I doubt there are enough human resources to keep a lot
of web pages in good shape - they better concentrate on very few albeit
relevant pages.

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Macromedia Flash Player on x86_64 system.

[Dario Lesca]

hi, I have fount this news:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

and this info:
http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/64bit/

then, on my last F10-x86_64 desktop, I have install the last PreRelease
of Macromedia Flash Player x86_64 with this procedure:

> #!/bin/bash
> set -x
> flashpage='http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html'
> 
> flashurl=$(wget -q $flashpage -O - | grep 'Download 64-bit Plugin for Linux'| 
> sed -e 's/.*a href="//' -e 's/".*//')
> 
> flashfile=$(basename $flashurl)
> 
> destplug=/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/
> 
> test ! -f $flashfile && wget -c $flashurl
> 
> tar -xvzf $flashfile -C $destplug
> 
> exit

Work for me.

Someone have something better?

hope this help 

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Re: Preupgrade (F8 to F10) fails on old machine

[Timothy Murphy]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

>>> It does not fail - it asks you if you want to continue. It does tell
>>> you that you need a wired network connection. It will then download
>>> the install image when the upgrade boots. You can also use a CD or
>>> DVD with the install image. I just did it last night - F8 to F10 -
>>> on this machine.
>> 
>> I did indeed continue.
>> But as I said, it only "retrieved" 1% of install.img ,
>> which struck me as odd.
>> I would have found 0% more intelligible.
>> 
> It takes a while, depending on your connection speed. At least for
> me, the 1% slowly climbed to 100%, and the progress bar fills in.

OK, thanks. I'll try again, using ethernet instead of WiFi.

(I've had a few problems with WiFi at my holiday venue -
I had to set net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf .)




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Re: rpmbuild not working on FC 10

[Linux student]

M A Young on 1/8/2009 2:51 AM +0500, wrote :
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Linux student wrote:
>
>> I am trying to build rpm using same spec files i've used on FC8 but
>> after upgrading my system to FC10 rpmbuild not working for me :
>
> The big difference between rpmbuild on F10 and earlier Fedoras is that
> it works in a different directory by default, in ~username/rpmbuild
> rather than /usr/src/redhat . This makes it easier to build rpms as an
> ordinary user, but it does mean that you might need to move some files
> around for something that worked on previous Fedora versions.
>
> Michael Young
>

Thanks Miichael /Todd/Aldo and Mark for responding on my post.


I did copy all files/folders from /usr/src/redhat/  to
/home/foo/rpmbuild but still same error .

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Re: MP3 playback in XMMS

[Chris Jones]

Nothing from multiverse is on the shipped CDs, nor is it enabled by
default.  It's exactly the same as rpmfusion, etc..  You have to add it
to sources.list yourself.


Indeed. All ubuntu does beyond Fedora is make it a little easier for the 
user to add these additional repos if they choose to do so, by 
acknowledging they exist and having a few tools to aid the user in 
adding them if they wish to. Fedora on the other hand completely ignores 
the additional repos and it is up to the user to find out about them 
themselves. The default installation of ubuntu is as open and GPL as 
Fedora is, IMHO (YMMV).


Chris

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Re: MP3 playback in XMMS

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 12:07:07 Chris Jones wrote:
> > Nothing from multiverse is on the shipped CDs, nor is it enabled by
> > default.  It's exactly the same as rpmfusion, etc..  You have to add it
> > to sources.list yourself.
>
> Indeed. All ubuntu does beyond Fedora is make it a little easier for the
> user to add these additional repos if they choose to do so, by
> acknowledging they exist and having a few tools to aid the user in
> adding them if they wish to. Fedora on the other hand completely ignores
> the additional repos and it is up to the user to find out about them
> themselves. The default installation of ubuntu is as open and GPL as
> Fedora is, IMHO (YMMV).
>
Where is Canonical's base?  Country of origin makes a difference as to whether 
links to such things are legal or not.

Anne


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Re: rpmbuild not working on FC 10

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno gio, 08/01/2009 alle 00.44 +0500, Linux student ha scritto:
> Hi ,
> 
> I am trying to build rpm using same spec files i've used on FC8 but
> after upgrading my system to FC10 rpmbuild not working for me :

I use this procedure one time ...

> mkdir ~/rpmbuild
> cd ~/rpmbuild
> mkdir -p BUILD RPMS SOURCES SPECS SRPMS
> echo "%_topdir/u/master/addon/esempi.conf/rpm/rpmbuild" > ~/.rpmmacros

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Mark Haney]

Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
> Mark Haney wrote:
> 
>> If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
>> about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
>> purpose.
> 
> It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
> some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
> function while not actually working with anything that previously
> used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
> And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
> documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
> then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.
> 

No kidding.  Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
another laptop (mine).  It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM.  A
fresh install.  I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
network info (wired).  Logged in as myself.

No network.

No hint of a network.  Loopback was up. Nothing more.  With a static IP.

Explain to me how this is 'better'?  Explain to the average, first time
user how to get this working?  Determine how many n00bs are gonna want
to fool with Fedora any more when a BASIC FUNCTION like networking, does
NOT work out of the box.

It's disgusting.  Period.  No, this isn't whining, this is simply a case
of failed functionality.

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Automounting windows share in F10?

[Mike Cloaked]

In F8 on one of my machines I used to arrange for an auto mount for a windows
share by adding a single line 
to /etc/auto.misc to set up a mount to /misc/fdrive

Then if I accesses /misc/fdrive it would mount and only stay mounted for as
long as used it and then umounted after a period of not being used.

In F10 the automount seems to be different as the /etc/auto.misc and
auto.master files are no longer present.

Can someone point me to the way to achieve the same thing in F10? Is it
pam_mount that is needed? Will it enable the analogous functionality as I
had previously as described above if configured appropriately? If so how do
I configure it to do this?

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Re: MP3 playback in XMMS

[Chris Jones]

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 08 January 2009 12:07:07 Chris Jones wrote:

Nothing from multiverse is on the shipped CDs, nor is it enabled by
default.  It's exactly the same as rpmfusion, etc..  You have to add it
to sources.list yourself.

Indeed. All ubuntu does beyond Fedora is make it a little easier for the
user to add these additional repos if they choose to do so, by
acknowledging they exist and having a few tools to aid the user in
adding them if they wish to. Fedora on the other hand completely ignores
the additional repos and it is up to the user to find out about them
themselves. The default installation of ubuntu is as open and GPL as
Fedora is, IMHO (YMMV).

Where is Canonical's base? 


The Isle of Man, if I remember correctly ;)

Country of origin makes a difference as to whether 
links to such things are legal or not.


Indeed. In fact I suspect this is why it is the Isle of Man - That place 
  is a law unto itself and rather relaxed.


Chris



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Re: rpmbuild not working on FC 10

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:01:21 +0500, Linux wrote:

> Dario Lesca on 1/8/2009 5:22 PM +0500, wrote :
> > Il giorno gio, 08/01/2009 alle 00.44 +0500, Linux student ha scritto:
> >   
> >> Hi ,
> >>
> >> I am trying to build rpm using same spec files i've used on FC8 but
> >> after upgrading my system to FC10 rpmbuild not working for me :
> >> 
> >
> > I use this procedure one time ...
> >
> >   
> >> mkdir ~/rpmbuild
> >> cd ~/rpmbuild
> >> mkdir -p BUILD RPMS SOURCES SPECS SRPMS
> >> echo "%_topdir /u/master/addon/esempi.conf/rpm/rpmbuild" > ~/.rpmmacros
> >> 
> >
> > hope this help
> >
> >   
> Thanks Lesca , as they say using --buildroot / can bite you 

It can't. For a very long time you would get:

error: %{buildroot} can not be "/"

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Re: "Clock" has quit unexpectedly

[Steve]

 L  wrote: 
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM, L  wrote:
> 
> > Whenever I click on gnome clock icon (/usr/libexec/clock-applet), I always 
> > got this error
> >
> >
> > "Clock" has quit unexpectedly
> > If you reload a panel object, it will automatically be added back to the 
> > panel.
> >
> > Do not reload/Reload

Huh! I can repeat this problem on my system:

$ uname -a
Linux xxx 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 16 14:54:03 EST 2008 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

When I first clicked on the clock, I got a dialog saying that evolution wanted 
access to the keyring. I granted this permission and the calendar dropped down 
from the clock applet. Then I clicked on the tasks arrow. This is when I got 
the crash. From then on, whenever I click on the clock it crashes. I get this 
line in /var/log/messages:

gnome-keyring-daemon[2831]: couldn't read 4 bytes from client:

This sounded familiar so I googled and found this:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=418731

This bug says that this was an upstream bug and that it has been fixed. Has the 
solution not filtered down yet or could this be a different problem?
$ rpm -qa | grep evol
evolution-data-server-debuginfo-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64
evolution-conduits-2.22.3.1-1.fc9.x86_64
evolution-2.22.3.1-1.fc9.x86_64
evolution-data-server-2.22.3-2.fc9.i386
evolution-spamassassin-2.22.3.1-1.fc9.x86_64
evolution-webcal-2.21.92-1.fc9.x86_64
evolution-webcal-debuginfo-2.21.92-1.fc9.x86_64
evolution-exchange-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64
evolution-data-server-2.22.3-2.fc9.x86_64
evolution-debuginfo-2.22.1-2.fc9.x86_64
evolution-bogofilter-2.22.3.1-1.fc9.x86_64
evolution-data-server-doc-2.22.3-2.fc9.x86_64
evolution-data-server-devel-2.22.3-2.fc9.x86_64
evolution-data-server-devel-2.22.3-2.fc9.i386

$ rpm -qa | grep keyring
gnome-keyring-devel-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64
gnome-keyring-2.22.3-1.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gnomekeyring-2.22.0-4.fc9.x86_64
gnome-keyring-pam-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64
gnome-keyring-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64

Steve.

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kmail does not use kwallet anymore

[Maurizio Marini]

kontact has started loosing connection to kwallet; i was obliged to delete all 
the accounts and to recreate them
now, password are stored into kmail, but i prefer to use again kwallet.
Question is: how can i force kontact/kmail to use kwallet?
tia
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Re: rpmbuild not working on FC 10

[Linux student]

Dario Lesca on 1/8/2009 5:22 PM +0500, wrote :
> Il giorno gio, 08/01/2009 alle 00.44 +0500, Linux student ha scritto:
>   
>> Hi ,
>>
>> I am trying to build rpm using same spec files i've used on FC8 but
>> after upgrading my system to FC10 rpmbuild not working for me :
>> 
>
> I use this procedure one time ...
>
>   
>> mkdir ~/rpmbuild
>> cd ~/rpmbuild
>> mkdir -p BUILD RPMS SOURCES SPECS SRPMS
>> echo "%_topdir   /u/master/addon/esempi.conf/rpm/rpmbuild" > ~/.rpmmacros
>> 
>
> hope this help
>
>   
Thanks Lesca , as they say using --buildroot / can bite you so now i am
using --buildroot /home/foo/tmp and packages are building fine now

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Re: disabling selinux entirely

[Daniel J Walsh]

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> John Aldrich wrote:
>> I thought that by setting selinux to "disabled" in the config file, I
>> wouldn't be bothered by it's alerts any more. How do I stop SELinux
>> from running, period? I don't want any alerts from SELinux regarding
>> stuff I'm trying to install.
>>
>>   
> I am in no way an expert at SELinux which I just do not use but wouldn't
> something like
> echo 0 > /selinux/enforce
> do the trick as a workaround till you perform said reboot?
> 
> just wondering out loud...
> 
> Thierry
> 
That command and setenforce 0 are the same.  Both put the machine into
permissive mode.  But these commands will not stop the AVC messages from
being reported.  (Although they will only be reported once per denial).


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KDE Terminal

[Joseph L. Casale]

Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in CentOS
for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies into the 
clipboard?

Thanks!
jlc

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Ipod issues

[Joseph L. Casale]

My ipod never shows safe to disconnect when I try to unmount it
Dolphin or via the task bar icon? It does however show that when
I unmount it from songbird? I also seem to have regular issues
getting gtkpod or songbird to even see it? Is this a problem
with my ipod, or my F10 install?

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: Single mouse click interpreted as a double click

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 08 January 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
>On Wednesday 07 January 2009 22:43:00 Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 20:22 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 07 January 2009 13:45:50 Martín Marqués wrote:
>> > > 2009/1/7 Paul Smith :
>> > > > Dear All,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am using F10 and I am noticing recently that when I click once on
>> > > > the mouse button, sometimes, my single click is interpreted as a
>> > > > double one. How can I fix it? Is this a bug?
>> > >
>> > > Are you sure that the mouse is OK?
>> >
>> > I don't know about his, but I do know that I'm having some very odd
>> > mouse experiences.  Lately my mouse appears to often do a double-click
>> > when I'm pasting from the clip-board, so that 'Getting Started' comes
>> > out like 'GetGetting Startedting Started'.  It feels almost like the
>> > repeat setting of a keyboard being to quick to cut in.
>> >
>> > Anne

Ann, I've found that to be a sign that the switch in the mouse was not 
properly soldered in, leaving a small space under it, which in turn means the 
solder joint and the foil of the pad can be carried away from the circuit 
board by a thou or 3 by the pressure of the switch being pushed fown into 
solid contact with the pcb, and eventually either the copper foil breaks, or 
there is a hairline crack in the solder.

The sequence then is that the switch closes with the down stroke, the joint is 
pushed apart so its silently unclicked for the duration of the push, then 
when the finger comes back off, the crack closes causing the 2nd click, and 
finally the switch itself unclicks.  Effectively a double click in double 
time.  New mouse time, or get out the controlled temp iron and re-solder it 
around all the switches.  I like to use a silver bearing solder for that as 
its much stronger physically than the usual eutectic blend.

>> You can configure the sensitivity in
>> System->Preferences->Hardware->Mouse under Gnome. I would expect
>> something similar in KDE.
>
>I could have sworn that I'd checked everything in systemsettings, but there
> it was.  Hopefully that's another problem solved.  Thanks Aaron.
>
>Anne



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rkhunter Question.

[Gene Heskett]

They say a little paranoia is a good thing, so I installed the rkhunter rpm, 
which in turn apparently sets itself up as a cron job.

I got emails from it bitching about a couple of perfectly legit files, and I 
found out where to whitelist them, so that warning is gone.  While I was at 
it I enabled another set of tests that weren't by default, the 
additional_rkts.

Now it is complaining about the lack of copies for passwd and group, but they 
do exist as name- files.  Is this a foible of rkhunter, or a redhatism?

Recommended fix?

Thanks.

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Media Player with bookmarks

[Joseph L. Casale]

Anyone know of a media player for F10 that has favorites like
Media Player Classic for windows with position?

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: Macromedia Flash Player on x86_64 system.

[Leslie Satenstein]

Did the flash work. I have a 64bit system, but since there is the released 
32bit version, I followed the instructions in the Fedora 10 FAQ.  

Worked just fine


--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Dario Lesca  wrote:

From: Dario Lesca 
Subject: Macromedia Flash Player on x86_64 system.
To: "Fedora Italia" 
Cc: "Fedora Project List" 
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 5:59 AM

hi, I have fount this news:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

and this info:
http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/64bit/

then, on my last F10-x86_64 desktop, I have install the last PreRelease
of Macromedia Flash Player x86_64 with this procedure:

> #!/bin/bash
> set -x
> flashpage='http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html'
> 
> flashurl=$(wget -q $flashpage -O - | grep 'Download 64-bit Plugin for Linux'| 
> sed -e 's/.*a href="//' -e 's/".*//')
> 
> flashfile=$(basename $flashurl)
> 
> destplug=/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/
> 
> test ! -f $flashfile && wget -c $flashurl
> 
> tar -xvzf $flashfile -C $destplug
> 
> exit

Work for me.

Someone have something better?

hope this help 

thanks

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kernel update last night overwrote my grub.conf

[Gene Heskett]

As in cleaned it all out, leaving only 1 of 20 some old entries I had in it.

I know a kernel update used to play with the default & fallback entries and 
would delete 2 versions back, but it left the rest of the file alone so the 
formatting damage was generally minor to fix.  Having it delete 20 some 
entries that I'll have to re-create if I want to test something against an 
older kernel is uncalled for.

Also, a recent ntp update removed /etc/rc3.d/S58ntpd, another bad show, and 
explains why I don't see anything from ntpd in my logs till I started it by 
hand after a reboot.

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using VNC on Fedora

[Claude Jones]

I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when 
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running 
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just 
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and 
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and 
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just 
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file 
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but, 
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can 
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the 
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just 
offer much less capability in Linux? 
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Re: kernel update last night overwrote my grub.conf

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:53:41 -0500, Gene wrote:

> Also, a recent ntp update 

What "recent ntp update" do you refer to? Give version and release,
please. Use details from "rpm -qa --last|grep ntp" and
"grep ntp /var/log/yum.log"

There hasn't been any ntp update for Fedora 10 at all.
And no ntp update either for Fedora 9 since October.

> removed /etc/rc3.d/S58ntpd, 

It doesn't do that. Only upon unstalling the "ntp" package from your
system, it also stops the service and removes the run-level symlinks.

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Re: kernel update last night overwrote my grub.conf

[Steve]

 Gene Heskett  wrote: 
> As in cleaned it all out, leaving only 1 of 20 some old entries I had in it.
> 
> I know a kernel update used to play with the default & fallback entries and 
> would delete 2 versions back, but it left the rest of the file alone so the 
> formatting damage was generally minor to fix.  Having it delete 20 some 
> entries that I'll have to re-create if I want to test something against an 
> older kernel is uncalled for.
> 
> Also, a recent ntp update removed /etc/rc3.d/S58ntpd, another bad show, and 
> explains why I don't see anything from ntpd in my logs till I started it by 
> hand after a reboot.

Thank God for backups, eh?
Sorry.. couldn't resist.
Steve

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Re: Problem with xorg evdev mouse in newer kernels

[Neil Bird]

Around about 05/01/09 15:27, Michael Cronenworth typed ...
I recommend upgrading to F10. I'm using a Logitech MX Revolution and the 
buttons on it only started working properly when I updated to F9 with 
the, then new, evdev driver. F10 hasn't changed that functionality.


  OK, thanks for that;  I'll make more effort to find the time to do the 
upgrade!


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Re: using VNC on Fedora

[Ed Greshko]

Claude Jones wrote:
> I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when 
> I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running 
> desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've 
> just 
> set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and 
> I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and 
> that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just 
> ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file 
> and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but, 
> nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can 
> someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the 
> same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just 
> offer much less capability in Linux? 
>   
Did you kill and restart the vncserver after making changes?

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Re: KDE Terminal

[John Aldrich]

On Thursday 08 January 2009, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in
> CentOS for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies
> into the clipboard?
>
Dang! That would be nice to have! If you find out, let me know. :-) I'm used 
to PuTTY which, at least in Windows, has that behavior automatically.

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Re: using VNC on Fedora

[John Aldrich]

For the OP, here's a copy of my ~/.vnc/xstartup file which works great:

#!/bin/sh

# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
unset SESSION_MANAGER
#exec /usr/bin/startkde
exec gnome-session

[end xstartup]

Note: I don't care for the way KDE is doing things in KDE4.0, so I'm 
switching to Gnome for my window manager for now. I can still run all my 
KDE apps but using Gnome for my window manager. Don't know what you prefer 
for your WM, but you can replace the "exec gnome-session" with whatever you 
use to start your preferred WM. Note the commented out "exec 
/usr/bin/startkde" as an example of how another window manager can be 
called.

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Re: KDE Terminal

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 15:28:44 John Aldrich wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in
> > CentOS for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies
> > into the clipboard?
>
> Dang! That would be nice to have! If you find out, let me know. :-) I'm
> used to PuTTY which, at least in Windows, has that behavior automatically.

As far as I know konsole has always done that.  It does here, anyway.  (And 
unlike windows you can use the multi-entry clipboard - very handy at times.)

Anne


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Re: Macromedia Flash Player on x86_64 system.

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno gio, 08/01/2009 alle 06.53 -0800, Leslie Satenstein ha
scritto:
> Did the flash work. I have a 64bit system, but since there is the
> released 32bit version, I followed the instructions in the Fedora 10
> FAQ.  
> 
> Worked just fine
This is the official way, and in this way you must install some i386
package.

> yum install flash-plugin nspluginwrapper.{i386,x86_64}
> pulseaudio-libs.i386 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i386 libcurl.i386
> 
> Nov 29 16:04:01 Installed: flash-plugin-10.0.12.36-release.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:19 Installed: libgcc-4.3.2-7.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:25 Installed: glibc-2.9-2.i686
> Nov 29 16:29:25 Installed: zlib-1.2.3-18.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:26 Installed: freetype-2.3.7-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:27 Installed: e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:28 Installed: libjpeg-6b-43.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:29 Installed: 2:libpng-1.2.33-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:29 Installed: libICE-1.0.4-4.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:30 Installed: nspr-4.7.2-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:31 Installed: libSM-1.1.0-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:32 Installed: libXau-1.0.4-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:33 Installed: libgpg-error-1.6-2.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:34 Installed: libselinux-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:34 Installed: libstdc++-4.3.2-7.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:36 Installed: libtiff-3.8.2-11.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:37 Installed: libgcrypt-1.4.3-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:38 Installed: jasper-libs-1.900.1-8.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:39 Installed: libthai-0.1.9-4.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:39 Installed: expat-2.0.1-5.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:50 Installed: fontconfig-2.6.0-3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:51 Installed: libtasn1-1.5-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:53 Installed: gnutls-2.4.2-3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:54 Installed: db4-4.7.25-5.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:55 Installed: cyrus-sasl-lib-2.1.22-19.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:56 Installed: libcap-2.10-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:58 Installed: alsa-lib-1.0.18-6.rc3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:58 Installed: libXdmcp-1.0.2-6.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:29:59 Installed: libxcb-1.1.91-5.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:01 Installed: libX11-1.1.4-5.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:02 Installed: libXext-1.0.4-1.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:03 Installed: libXrender-0.9.4-3.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:03 Installed: libXfixes-4.0.3-4.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:04 Installed: libXdamage-1.1.1-4.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:05 Installed: libXcursor-1.1.9-3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:05 Installed: libXcomposite-0.4.0-5.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:06 Installed: libXft-2.1.13-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:07 Installed: libXrandr-1.2.3-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:08 Installed: libXi-1.1.3-4.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:09 Installed: libXinerama-1.0.3-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:09 Installed: libXt-1.0.5-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:10 Installed: keyutils-libs-1.2-3.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:11 Installed: krb5-libs-1.6.3-16.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:13 Installed: openssl-0.9.8g-11.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:14 Installed: libssh2-0.18-7.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:15 Installed: openldap-2.4.12-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:15 Installed: 1:cups-libs-1.3.9-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:16 Installed: gdbm-1.8.0-29.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:18 Installed: libidn-0.6.14-8.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:18 Installed: ncurses-libs-5.6-20.20080927.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:19 Installed: readline-5.2-13.fc9.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:20 Installed: sqlite-3.5.9-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:21 Installed: nss-3.12.2.0-3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:22 Installed: libcurl-7.18.2-7.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:22 Installed: pixman-0.12.0-2.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:23 Installed: cairo-1.8.0-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:24 Installed: libasyncns-0.7-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:25 Installed: pulseaudio-libs-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:25 Installed: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:30 Installed: glib2-2.18.2-3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:32 Installed: atk-1.24.0-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:33 Installed: pango-1.22.1-1.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:36 Installed: gtk2-2.14.4-3.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:37 Installed: gamin-0.1.9-6.fc10.i386
> Nov 29 16:30:38 Installed: nspluginwrapper-1.1.2-4.fc10.i386

If you use the pre-release of Flash-x86_64 you do not need this and the
system work with all x86_64 package.

There is also a testing rpm here:
> http://www.dfm.uninsubria.it/compiz/fusion-testing/flashplayer.x86_64/flash-plugin-10.0.21.1-2.x86_64.rpm

Regard

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Re: Media Player with bookmarks

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 14:50:01 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> Anyone know of a media player for F10 that has favorites like
> Media Player Classic for windows with position?
>
You have to remember that many of us haven't a clue what Media Player Classic 
does, so unless you are very specific we have to guess :-)  Meanwhile, amarok 
can give ratings to tracks and can, I believe, offer a list of recently played 
tracks.  I think amarok1 could select most-played tracks, which would equate 
to favourites, but I'm not certain whether this is the version of amarok2 that 
most distros have yet.

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Re: Media Player with bookmarks

[Thomas Iverson]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009 14:50:01 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> Anyone know of a media player for F10 that has favorites like
>> Media Player Classic for windows with position?
>>
> You have to remember that many of us haven't a clue what Media Player Classic
> does, so unless you are very specific we have to guess :-)  Meanwhile, amarok
> can give ratings to tracks and can, I believe, offer a list of recently played
> tracks.  I think amarok1 could select most-played tracks, which would equate
> to favourites, but I'm not certain whether this is the version of amarok2 that
> most distros have yet.
>
> Anne
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amarok and rhythmbox are strongly recommanded to use under Linux for
music playing and managing :)

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Robin Laing]

Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
Mark Haney wrote:


If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
purpose.


It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
function while not actually working with anything that previously
used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.



I liked this analogy but I feel that Network Manager is just a different 
type of wheel than a re-invention.  It is like comparing a tire for a 
motorbike to that of a truck.  They both roll on the road but do it in 
different ways.


I have installed F10 on two machines so far.  In one case, NM is being 
used as the machine won't be on a network for 99.9% of the time.  The 
other machine is on a full time network and requires full network access 
before the login procedure.  On this machine, I turned off Network 
Manager and use the normal network services.  It took about 30 seconds.


On a F7 laptop, Network Manager works great.  Can go from wired fixed IP 
address to wireless DHCP address by unplugging the ethernet cable.  It 
is just that easy.


The only problem that I have run into regarding networking is ethernet 
devices not being activated.


So far I find F10 to be be better than F8 on the same machine other than 
sound but that is another subject.  :)



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Re: Single mouse click interpreted as a double click

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 14:28:09 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> > I don't know about his, but I do know that I'm having some very odd
> >> > mouse experiences.  Lately my mouse appears to often do a double-click
> >> > when I'm pasting from the clip-board, so that 'Getting Started' comes
> >> > out like 'GetGetting Startedting Started'.  It feels almost like the
> >> > repeat setting of a keyboard being to quick to cut in.
> >> >
> >> > Anne
>
> Ann, I've found that to be a sign that the switch in the mouse was not
> properly soldered in, leaving a small space under it, which in turn means
> the solder joint and the foil of the pad can be carried away from the
> circuit board by a thou or 3 by the pressure of the switch being pushed
> fown into solid contact with the pcb, and eventually either the copper foil
> breaks, or there is a hairline crack in the solder.
>
> The sequence then is that the switch closes with the down stroke, the joint
> is pushed apart so its silently unclicked for the duration of the push,
> then when the finger comes back off, the crack closes causing the 2nd
> click, and finally the switch itself unclicks.  Effectively a double click
> in double time.  New mouse time, or get out the controlled temp iron and
> re-solder it around all the switches.  I like to use a silver bearing
> solder for that as its much stronger physically than the usual eutectic
> blend.

You could be right, Gene, but I've lengthened the delay in double-click time 
for the moment, and I'll see whether that does it.  (For some reason my reply 
to Aaron's suggestion to do this doesn't seem to have hit the list.)

Anne


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Re: KDE Terminal

[Thomas Iverson]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009 15:28:44 John Aldrich wrote:
>> On Thursday 08 January 2009, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> > Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in
>> > CentOS for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies
>> > into the clipboard?
>>
>> Dang! That would be nice to have! If you find out, let me know. :-) I'm
>> used to PuTTY which, at least in Windows, has that behavior automatically.
>
> As far as I know konsole has always done that.  It does here, anyway.  (And
> unlike windows you can use the multi-entry clipboard - very handy at times.)
>
> Anne
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What you mentioned should be the feature of X system itself and is non
of DE's business
Am I right ???

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Re: kernel update last night overwrote my grub.conf

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 08 January 2009, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:53:41 -0500, Gene wrote:
>> Also, a recent ntp update
>
>What "recent ntp update" do you refer to? Give version and release,
>please. Use details from "rpm -qa --last|grep ntp" and
>"grep ntp /var/log/yum.log"

Fedora 8, sorry.

[r...@coyote etc]# rpm -qa --last|grep ntp
ntp-4.2.4p4-1.fc8 Tue 18 Nov 2008 11:34:03 AM EST
[r...@coyote etc]# grep ntp /var/log/yum.log
[r...@coyote etc]# 

I don't usually reboot this box unless I've built a new kernel, currently 
running 2.6.28, but I rebooted to knoppmyth yesterday to see if the live 
would work (it didn't, couldn't even ping localhost), and when I rebooted to 
2.6.28 is when I found my grub.conf had been cleaned out too, by the kernel 
rpm I'd let puplet install a couple of hours before.

I had posted to lkml in the slashdot new years eve crash thread, that 
something had killed ntpd at or shortly before midnight GMT and I had to 
restart it 3 days later.  Unforch the log is dated in uptime ticks, making it 
difficult to translate to realtime, GMT or otherwise.  I think now that it 
didn't restart after I'd built 2.6.28 and rebooted, which would have placed 
it earlier in the week of new years.  With the missing link in /etc/rc3.d it 
was never started.  The rcX.d links were and are still ok, and I have 
restored the missing link in rc3.d now.

>From the above schedule dates, it looks as if my hard drive, a brand new 
Seagate 500Gb sata is being forgetful.  And I expire my logwatch mail fairly 
quickly so the yum records in the logwatch reports are gone in 15 days.  No 
help there.

>There hasn't been any ntp update for Fedora 10 at all.
>And no ntp update either for Fedora 9 since October.
>
>> removed /etc/rc3.d/S58ntpd,
>
>It doesn't do that. Only upon unstalling the "ntp" package from your
>system, it also stops the service and removes the run-level symlinks.

I am sure it was there after the re-install on Nov 18th, and I'm the only 
user, so that leaves the possibility that ext3 has done an ntfs on me, and 
deleted a random file.  ntfs has that propensity, usually the most 
important .dll on the system.  And M$ will NOT replace it by any means other 
than buying and installing a fresh copy of ntfs, 3.51 or 4.0.  Been there 
done that. 3 times even.

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HP P-1005 printer in F10

[Antonio M]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Antonio M 
Date: 2009/1/8
Subject: HP P-1005 printer in F10
To: Fedora 


Someone in my office bought this printer, that should be used as a
shared printer under Win Xp, replacing another HP1200.
I tried to print from my F10 pc but I didn't get any result, while the
old HP1200 was o.k.
Then I connected directly the printer to my F10 laptop and nothing
changed...I mean no result.
I am using this driver that I got from Rpmfusion
foo2zjs-0.20080826-1.fc10 rpm :HP LaserJet 1005 Foomatic/foo2zjs
(recommended)
Then I tried to debug a test print page and I get an output that I
cannot attach due to its dimensions
Any help??? Tnx



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Re: Macromedia Flash Player on x86_64 system.

[Robin Laing]

Leslie Satenstein wrote:
  Did the flash work. I have a 64bit system, but since there is the 
released 32bit version, I followed the instructions in the Fedora 10 FAQ. 


Worked just fine


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From: Dario Lesca 
Subject: Macromedia Flash Player on x86_64 system.
To: "Fedora Italia" 
Cc: "Fedora Project List" 
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 5:59 AM

hi, I have fount this news:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

and this info:
http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/64bit/

then, on my last F10-x86_64 desktop, I have install the last PreRelease
of Macromedia Flash Player x86_64 with this procedure:

 > #!/bin/bash
 > set -x
 > flashpage='http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html'

 >
 > flashurl=$(wget -q $flashpage -O - | grep 'Download 64-bit Plugin
for Linux'| sed -e 's/.*a href="//' -e 's/".*//')
 >
 > flashfile=$(basename $flashurl)
 >
 > destplug=/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/
 >
 > test ! -f $flashfile && wget -c $flashurl
 >
 > tar -xvzf $flashfile -C $destplug
 >
 > exit

Work for me.

Someone have something better?

hope this help

thanks



I have been running the 64 bit beta since it first came out on F8.  Now 
I am running it on F10 on a fresh install.  No issues that I have come 
across yet.  Seems to be stable from what I have seen.  Only one site 
didn't work but I am not sure if that was a flash issue or something else.


Now if Adobe would get a Shockwave application for Linux it would be great.
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Re: using VNC on Fedora

[Claude Jones]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 10:34:22 John Aldrich wrote:
> For the OP, here's a copy of my ~/.vnc/xstartup file which works great:
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> # Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
> unset SESSION_MANAGER
> #exec /usr/bin/startkde
> exec gnome-session
>
> [end xstartup]

Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it didn't 
seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and errored out. 
I switched to the exact suggestion you make above, and it worked, but not 
before doing what Ed suggested, killing and restarting the VNCServer. 

If I may, another question that is on my topic:
Are there any other VNC apps that work in F10. Specifically, I would like a 
viewer that remembered the connections I've made, so I wouldn't have to type 
all that IP info in each time, or maybe there's a way to make the VNC viewer 
do it that I haven't discovered - I did go through all the options...

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Re: KDE Terminal

[Robin Laing]

Joseph L. Casale wrote:

Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in CentOS
for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies into the 
clipboard?

Thanks!
jlc



I don't see the need.  I use the highlight/center button copy feature 
and the CTRL+C/V as well.  It allows me to copy and paste two things at 
once.  I have done this in Gnome and KDE for years.


This is great for providing links in forum postings because I can copy 
the title using CRTL+C/V and the URL using the highlight/center button 
to save time.



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Re: using VNC on Fedora

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 10:58 -0500, Claude Jones wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009 10:34:22 John Aldrich wrote:
> > For the OP, here's a copy of my ~/.vnc/xstartup file which works great:
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> >
> > # Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
> > unset SESSION_MANAGER
> > #exec /usr/bin/startkde
> > exec gnome-session
> >
> > [end xstartup]
> 
> Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it 
> didn't 
> seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and errored 
> out. 
> I switched to the exact suggestion you make above, and it worked, but not 
> before doing what Ed suggested, killing and restarting the VNCServer. 
> 
> If I may, another question that is on my topic:
> Are there any other VNC apps that work in F10. Specifically, I would like a 
> viewer that remembered the connections I've made, so I wouldn't have to type 
> all that IP info in each time, or maybe there's a way to make the VNC viewer 
> do it that I haven't discovered - I did go through all the options...

I have found that once I switched to freenx, VNC no longer interested
me.

By the way, the TSClient application on F10 saves each connection to its
own connection document - pretty much giving you what you want.

Craig

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Re: kernel update last night overwrote my grub.conf

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 08 January 2009, Steve wrote:
> Gene Heskett  wrote:
>> As in cleaned it all out, leaving only 1 of 20 some old entries I had in
>> it.
>>
>> I know a kernel update used to play with the default & fallback entries
>> and would delete 2 versions back, but it left the rest of the file alone
>> so the formatting damage was generally minor to fix.  Having it delete 20
>> some entries that I'll have to re-create if I want to test something
>> against an older kernel is uncalled for.
>>
>> Also, a recent ntp update removed /etc/rc3.d/S58ntpd, another bad show,
>> and explains why I don't see anything from ntpd in my logs till I started
>> it by hand after a reboot.
>
>Thank God for backups, eh?

Yes.  Amanda to the rescue. :)  And not the badly bent rpm versions, the real 
thing.  Or in this case, a simple cp for the ntpd starter.

And while the fscked up grub.conf was a surprise, its not as if I was a newbee 
and can't fix it.  But I detest having to do it, its a sloppy upgrade script 
that did it, so I think I'll make it immutable till the next time _I_ want to 
edit it.

>Sorry.. couldn't resist.

Neither could I. :)

>Steve



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Re: KDE Terminal

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 08 January 2009, John Aldrich wrote:
>On Thursday 08 January 2009, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in
>> CentOS for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies
>> into the clipboard?
>
>Dang! That would be nice to have! If you find out, let me know. :-) I'm used
>to PuTTY which, at least in Windows, has that behavior automatically.

Is konsole no longer available?

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Re: KDE Terminal

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 16:05:47 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009, John Aldrich wrote:
> >On Thursday 08 January 2009, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> >> Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in
> >> CentOS for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies
> >> into the clipboard?
> >
> >Dang! That would be nice to have! If you find out, let me know. :-) I'm
> > used to PuTTY which, at least in Windows, has that behavior
> > automatically.
>
> Is konsole no longer available?
>
It is, and it works as described

Anne


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Re: df hangs -- nfs related problem

[Todd Denniston]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote, On 01/07/2009 10:16 AM:

That would depend on which is worse, potentially losing data or having
a client machine hang because the server is (perhaps temporarily)
unavailable. It depends totally on the specific application scenario.
To quote nfs(5):


A  so-called  "soft"  timeout can cause silent data corruption in
certain cases. As such, use the soft option only when client
responsiveness is more important than data integrity.  Using NFS over
TCP or increasing the value of the retrans option  may  mitigate some
of the risks of using the soft option.


IOW there is no "right" answer to this.

poc



I agree that there is no `"right" answer to this`, but from experience I have 
found that the best answer to using NFS without data loss and without 
_permanent_ application lockup is to use:

hard,intr

'soft' on the other hand has lost me much data and caused many a bottle of 
administrator headache remedy to be used.  Now a LART is called for anytime I 
find someone on my network using soft... even if they have not yet told me 
they are having problems with NFS data loss.


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Re: kernel update last night overwrote my grub.conf

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:56:17 -0500, Gene wrote:

> On Thursday 08 January 2009, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:53:41 -0500, Gene wrote:
> >> Also, a recent ntp update
> >
> >What "recent ntp update" do you refer to? Give version and release,
> >please. Use details from "rpm -qa --last|grep ntp" and
> >"grep ntp /var/log/yum.log"
> 
> Fedora 8, sorry.
> 
> [r...@coyote etc]# rpm -qa --last|grep ntp
> ntp-4.2.4p4-1.fc8 Tue 18 Nov 2008 11:34:03 AM EST
> [r...@coyote etc]# grep ntp /var/log/yum.log
> [r...@coyote etc]# 

That's an update from April/May 2008:

  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-3170

An install date of "18 Nov 2008" suggests that probably you reinstalled
Fedora 8 on that day.

If that is not true, perhaps you removed+installed "ntp" without
switching it on for any run-level.

> >> removed /etc/rc3.d/S58ntpd,
> >
> >It doesn't do that. Only upon unstalling the "ntp" package from your
> >system, it also stops the service and removes the run-level symlinks.
> 
> I am sure it was there after the re-install on Nov 18th, and I'm the only 
> user, so that leaves the possibility that ext3 has done an ntfs on me, and 
> deleted a random file.

Aha, a re-install on Nov 18th indeed. That matches my theory. There
hasn't been any ntp update for Fedora 8, however. And the package
doesn't touch the run-level scripts. ntp defaults to off and doesn't
remove any symlink until you uninstall the package. You can examine
"rpm -q --scripts ntp" if you like.

Looks very much as if you're chasing ghosts.

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Re: using VNC on Fedora

[Ulissis Gomes Correa]

2009/1/8, Claude Jones :
> I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There,
> when
> I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
> desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've
> just
> set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
> I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
> that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
> ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration
> file
> and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop",
> but,
> nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
> someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
> same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC
> just
> offer much less capability in Linux?
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Take a look at http://fedora.co.in/2007/12/01/how-to-configure-vncserver
, maybe this can help you...

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My sound quit sometime in the last couple weeks...

[Linuxguy123]

I don't have sound anymore.  It used to work fine, except that it
sometimes quit if I adjusted the volume in youtube.  If I restarted it
worked fine again.   Now I never have any sound.

The settings in kmix look OK.

Start-> Administration-> Soundcard Detection:

=
The following audio device was detected.

Selected card
Vendor: Intel Corporation
Model: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
Module: snd-hda-intel

Device settings
PCM device STAC92xx Digital
=


When I run the sound test and don't hear the sound, I get the following
message:


Automatic detection of the sound card did not work.  This audio device
will not be available on the system.


Any ideas ?

Thanks

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Fedora 9 and OpenLDAP replication

[Seann Clark]

All,

   I am a little stumped. I have a few small LDAP's running, or being 
set up, and after a small amount of research into it, I found that 
OpenLDAP 2.4 that ships with Fedora9 and is in the repo's doesn't use 
the old method of replication of databases. I found information on 
setting up the new form of replication (syncprov) but I have run into a 
problem. When I set up the slapd.conf file with


overlay syncprov
syncprov-checkpoint 100 10
syncprov-sessionlog 100

I get this when I go to check the config file for validity before 
starting (or restarting) the ldap servers:


Checking configuration files for slapd:[FAILED]
overlay "syncprov" not found
slaptest: bad configuration file!



What I also looked into with this is where the overlays are defined, and 
from what I have found about this is:


When using /slapd.conf/(5), overlays that are configured before any 
other databases are considered global, as mentioned above. In fact they 
are implicitly stacked on top of the frontend database. They can also be 
explicitly configured as such:


   database frontend
   overlay 


Official overlays are located in

   servers/slapd/overlays/

That directory also contains the file slapover.txt, which describes the 
rationale of the overlay implementation, and may serve as a guideline 
for the development of custom overlays.


Contribware overlays are located in

   contrib/slapd-modules//

along with other types of run-time loadable components; they are 
officially distributed, but not maintained by the project.



I can't find that servers/slapd/overlays, or anything else relating to 
it. Outside of the binary for openldap and the /etc directory for it, I 
can find no trace of the program install itself


If anyone can offer insight I would greatly appreciate it.


~Seann


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RE: Media Player with bookmarks

[Joseph L. Casale]

>> Anyone know of a media player for F10 that has favorites like
>> Media Player Classic for windows with position?
>>
>You have to remember that many of us haven't a clue what Media Player Classic 
>does, so unless you are very specific we have to guess :-)  Meanwhile, amarok 
>can give ratings to tracks and can, I believe, offer a list of recently played 
>tracks.  I think amarok1 could select most-played tracks, which would equate 
>to favourites, but I'm not certain whether this is the version of amarok2 that 
>most distros have yet.

Anne,
I want favorites with position, so if you have never used mpc and don't know 
that
lingo (sorry) it allows you to pause a video, and make a bookmark like in 
firefox
to that video, but also remember its position. Handy for stopping a video and 
returning
to it later!

Amarok in F10 is so unstable I can't bear to use it and rythembox doesn't do 
this
so I am still searching :(

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: KDE Terminal

[Andrew Parker]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Joseph L. Casale
 wrote:
> Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main console in CentOS
> for example where if I highlight text it automatically copies into the 
> clipboard?

If you use klipper and set it to "Synchronise contents of the
clipboard and the selection" you should get what you after (but for
all apps)

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Re: rkhunter Question.

[John Horne]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 09:38 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> They say a little paranoia is a good thing, so I installed the rkhunter rpm, 
> which in turn apparently sets itself up as a cron job.
> 
> I got emails from it bitching about a couple of perfectly legit files, and I 
> found out where to whitelist them, so that warning is gone.  While I was at 
> it I enabled another set of tests that weren't by default, the 
> additional_rkts.
> 
> Now it is complaining about the lack of copies for passwd and group, but they 
> do exist as name- files.  Is this a foible of rkhunter, or a redhatism?
> 
> Recommended fix?
> 
Do nothing. When rkhunter is first run it has no copy of the
passwd/group files to check against for changes. Hence the warning. As
it runs, it will take a copy. When it runs again, it then has a copy, so
the warning goes away.



John.

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Re: using VNC on Fedora

[Claude Jones]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 11:04:05 Craig White wrote:
> I have found that once I switched to freenx, VNC no longer interested
> me.
>
> By the way, the TSClient application on F10 saves each connection to its
> own connection document - pretty much giving you what you want.

Now that I get VNC working.!
OK, I went and looked, and it DOES look interesting, and better - I'll work on 
it later - thanks to all for the help and comments
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Re: rkhunter Question.

[John Horne]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 16:42 +, John Horne wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 09:38 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > They say a little paranoia is a good thing, so I installed the rkhunter 
> > rpm, 
> > which in turn apparently sets itself up as a cron job.
> > 
> > I got emails from it bitching about a couple of perfectly legit files, and 
> > I 
> > found out where to whitelist them, so that warning is gone.  While I was at 
> > it I enabled another set of tests that weren't by default, the 
> > additional_rkts.
> > 
> > Now it is complaining about the lack of copies for passwd and group, but 
> > they 
> > do exist as name- files.  Is this a foible of rkhunter, or a redhatism?
> > 
> > Recommended fix?
> > 
> Do nothing. When rkhunter is first run it has no copy of the
> passwd/group files to check against for changes. Hence the warning. As
> it runs, it will take a copy. When it runs again, it then has a copy, so
> the warning goes away.
> 
Hmm, actually thinking about it the rkhunter.spec file specifies to
install copies of the files when the rpm is installed. As such the error
should not have occurred. May want to raise that with the packager of
the rpm (i.e. report it via the fedora bugzilla).



John.

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Re: Media Player with bookmarks

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 16:40:45 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> >> Anyone know of a media player for F10 that has favorites like
> >> Media Player Classic for windows with position?
> >
> >You have to remember that many of us haven't a clue what Media Player
> > Classic does, so unless you are very specific we have to guess :-) 
> > Meanwhile, amarok can give ratings to tracks and can, I believe, offer a
> > list of recently played tracks.  I think amarok1 could select most-played
> > tracks, which would equate to favourites, but I'm not certain whether
> > this is the version of amarok2 that most distros have yet.
>
> Anne,
> I want favorites with position, so if you have never used mpc and don't
> know that lingo (sorry) it allows you to pause a video, and make a bookmark
> like in firefox to that video, but also remember its position. Handy for
> stopping a video and returning to it later!
>
Sounds useful :-)  Maybe a feature request to the Kaffeine team would be in 
order - you'd do that in bugs.kde.org.

> Amarok in F10 is so unstable I can't bear to use it and rythembox doesn't
> do this so I am still searching :(
>
Ah - I haven't tried Amarok in F10.  It's stable enough on my Mandriva laptop, 
but I'm aware that not all the features are back yet.  I keep seeing reports 
of more features being added to trunk, so they are obviously on the way, but 
we do tend to get impatient :-)  We're like children after the sweeties that 
we love.

Anne


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DJ Software

[Robert Fausey]

I'm looking for a program that will allow me to DJ to a Shoutcast
Server.

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Re: Ipod issues

[Todd Zullinger]

> My ipod never shows safe to disconnect when I try to unmount it
> Dolphin or via the task bar icon? It does however show that when I
> unmount it from songbird?

The iPod should be sent an eject rather than just a umount.  I'd say
if Dolphin isn't doing that, it's either a bug or user error (since I
don't know Dolphin, perhaps it's something you need to configure?).
Hopefully one of the many helpful KDE users/maintainers here can
clarify this.

> I also seem to have regular issues getting gtkpod or songbird to
> even see it? Is this a problem with my ipod, or my F10 install?

I need more info to even guess.  When you say that you can't get
gtkpod or songbird to see the iPod, do you mean that it is not
automatically mounted when you plug it in or that it is mounted and
only these apps cannot access the device?

Is it safe to guess that you're using the Fedora package for gtkpod?
Songbird isn't packaged, and I don't know much at all about it.

Also, what iPod model is this?

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Re: DJ Software

[Seann Clark]

Robert Fausey wrote:

I'm looking for a program that will allow me to DJ to a Shoutcast
Server.

  

Try out DarkIce, it is pretty good for the DJ streaming to a shout:
http://darkice.tyrell.hu/


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Re: rkhunter Question.

[Colin J Thomson - G6AVK]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 14:38:25 Gene Heskett wrote:
> They say a little paranoia is a good thing, so I installed the rkhunter
> rpm, which in turn apparently sets itself up as a cron job.
>
> I got emails from it bitching about a couple of perfectly legit files, and
> I found out where to whitelist them, so that warning is gone.  While I was
> at it I enabled another set of tests that weren't by default, the
> additional_rkts.
>
> Now it is complaining about the lack of copies for passwd and group, but
> they do exist as name- files.  Is this a foible of rkhunter, or a
> redhatism?
>
> Recommended fix?

This is fixed in updates-pending (could be updates-testing by now) which is 
version: rkhunter-1.3.4-1.fc10

HTH

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Re: My sound quit sometime in the last couple weeks...

[Kevin Kempter]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 09:25:38 Linuxguy123 wrote:
> I don't have sound anymore.  It used to work fine, except that it
> sometimes quit if I adjusted the volume in youtube.  If I restarted it
> worked fine again.   Now I never have any sound.
>
> The settings in kmix look OK.
>
> Start-> Administration-> Soundcard Detection:
>
> =
> The following audio device was detected.
>
> Selected card
> Vendor: Intel Corporation
> Model: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
> Module: snd-hda-intel
>
> Device settings
> PCM device STAC92xx Digital
> =
>
>
> When I run the sound test and don't hear the sound, I get the following
> message:
>
> 
> Automatic detection of the sound card did not work.  This audio device
> will not be available on the system.
> 
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks

a number of machines (myself included) lost sound with the last kernel update 
- try booting the old kernel, if that works I suspect we're all running the 
old kernel until a fix shows up.


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Problem with GXine

[GMS S]

Hi,
I installed GXine.Right clicking a file like "abc.rmvb" it starts playing.After 
running sometime when I click the upper top close button a message 
"segmentation fault" is shown.

Would someone please tell me what should I do?





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RE: Ipod issues

[Joseph L. Casale]

>The iPod should be sent an eject rather than just a umount.  I'd say
>if Dolphin isn't doing that, it's either a bug or user error (since I
>don't know Dolphin, perhaps it's something you need to configure?).
>Hopefully one of the many helpful KDE users/maintainers here can
>clarify this.

I will look into this then.

>I need more info to even guess.  When you say that you can't get
>gtkpod or songbird to see the iPod, do you mean that it is not
>automatically mounted when you plug it in or that it is mounted and
>only these apps cannot access the device?

It gets mounted no problem, but the two apps I listed don't see it
and use it in their respective gui.

>Is it safe to guess that you're using the Fedora package for gtkpod?
>Songbird isn't packaged, and I don't know much at all about it.

Yes, gtkpod is from the base repo, and songbird was off the contrib.
packager page I believe.

>Also, what iPod model is this?

It's a 4 gig nano.
Thanks so much Todd for all the help!
jlc

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Jeff Spaleta]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Mark Haney  wrote:
> No kidding.  Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
> another laptop (mine).  It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM.  A
> fresh install.  I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
> network info (wired).  Logged in as myself.

Lets be very clear. Where did you put in your static network info?
Somehow I doubt you put it into NM's per-user connection information
store.  If you don't understand how NM works and you are putting the
information into the legacy systems configuration locations or
tools..then should you expect NM to see your settings?

The problem here is that we have a large contingent of users who found
the script based approach as acceptable for years and NM represents a
substantial change. That script based approach is still there, but its
not the default. Because its not the default additional steps must be
taken to get the expected behavior they are looking for.  That
confuses people because it creates a new interaction point between a
system they understood well enough to use and a system they don't
understand yet.

NM can do simple static after user login, it has its own edit
connections concept where static information can be record as part of
a connection definition. It doesn't handle complicated options like
interface bonding..yet. But it does handle a common set of static ipv4
addressing needs in F10.  But to see that static support you have to
see NM concepts of configuration editing, not the older sysconfig
scripts.

And yes NM doesn't let you establish pre-login connections...yet. But
its on the roadmap.
http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerToDo. Once connection settings can
be published for system-wide use when a user is not logged in, that
will hopefully satisfy a large chunk of the needs of the sysconfig
script users on desktops and laptops.  After that its a matter of
working on multiple device interactions to incorporate server needs.

Until then you are free to disable NM and use the legacy network
service, which uses the legacy sysconfig scripts, which can be editted
using the legacy system-config-network ui.

-jef

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Re: npviewer.bin segfaulting

[Ambrogio]

On mer, 2008-10-15 at 16:40 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I'm getting frequent segfaults which crash Firefox:
> 
> Oct 12 11:04:23 bree kernel: npviewer.bin[31287]: segfault at f7042ac4 ip 
> 6a4640 sp f4bb5dfc error 4 in libpthread-2.8.so[69d000+15000]
> Oct 12 11:04:23 bree kernel: npviewer.bin[31288]: segfault at f71cf984 ip 
> 10d42eb sp f3ec2f60 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[ddb000+778000]
> Oct 12 17:45:04 bree kernel: npviewer.bin[2720]: segfault at f6f64030 ip 
> 6a4640 sp ff88909c error 4 in libpthread-2.8.so[69d000+15000]
> Oct 13 09:32:28 bree kernel: npviewer.bin[26918]: segfault at f6efb030 ip 
> 6a4640 sp ffa21eac error 4 in libpthread-2.8.so[69d000+15000]
> Oct 13 09:32:48 bree kernel: npviewer.bin[26946]: segfault at f6fb0030 ip 
> 6a4640 sp ff9d6e6c error 4 in libpthread-2.8.so[69d000+15000]
> Oct 13 10:33:25 bree kernel: npviewer.bin[27857]: segfault at f6fac030 ip 
> 6a4640 sp ffdd126c error 4 in libpthread-2.8.so[69d000+15000]
> Oct 14 08:50:10 bree kernel: npviewer.bin[4545]: segfault at f6f74030 ip 
> 6a4640 sp ffd9b22c error 4 in libpthread-2.8.so[69d000+15000]
> etc. etc. etc.
Hi seen the segfault too in the log.
But I have no firefox crash.

Did you solved it?
And, if yes, how?

Tnx
 Ambrogio

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Re: F10 audio KDE ldap users

[Robin Laing]

Craig White wrote:

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:57 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
Just finished installing F10 with next to no problems.  My only real 
issue at this time is audio.


In "messages" I get


snip



As the users that are using ldap are not listed in the user management, 
how do I add these users to the "pulse-rt" group?  I have no control 
over the ldap groups that have to work across multiple versions of Linux 
and other OS's.


I cannot even run the KDE setup for audio as "System Settings" freezes.


I think those 'error' messages in syslog are fairly typical and that you
don't actually need users in pulse-rt group at all.

is pulse daemon actually running on those machines? as user? If so, can
the user open 'Pulse Audio Manager' application (multimedia) and
connect? If not, can you have user open a shell and type 'pulseaudio -C'

Craig



Yes it is.  It started when I logged in this morning.

rlaing   13672  0.0  0.0  87752  1144 ?S07:04   0:00 /bin/sh
/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
rlaing   13676  0.0  0.0 137120  2124 ?S07:04   0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
rlaing   13717  0.0  0.0 137120  2156 ?S07:04   0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
rlaing   14154  0.0  0.0 137120  2160 ?S07:17   0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

I don't see any Pulse Audio Manager in the Multimedia menu.

I tried to run pacmd and got these messages.

E: core-util.c: Failed to create secure directory: Permission denied
E: pacmd.c: No PulseAudio daemon running


The messages are the same and look related to lack of authorities to
access certain parts of the program.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: Called SUID root and
real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
However, we lack the necessary privileges:

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: We are not in group
'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: For enabling real-time
scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
resource limits for this user.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: High-priority
scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: core-util.c: setpriority():
Permission denied

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: core-util.c: Failed to create
securedirectory: Permission denied

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
access autospawn lock.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: Called SUID root and
real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
However, we lack the necessary privileges:

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: We are not in group
'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: For enabling real-time
scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
resource limits for this user.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: High-priority
scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: core-util.c: setpriority():
Permission denied

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: core-util.c: Failed to create
securedirectory: Permission denied

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
access autospawn lock.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: Called SUID root and
real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
However, we lack the necessary privileges:

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: We are not in group
'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: For enabling real-time
scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
resource limits for this user.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: High-priority
scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: core-util.c: setpriority():
Permission denied

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: core-util.c: Failed to create
securedirectory: Permission denied

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
access autospawn lock.


SELinux is permissive and system has been retouched.  There are no
SELinux warnings related to this.

Now, I have a local account for testing and was used for setting up the 
system and I have sound in that account.  There in only one log message 
when I logged into that account.


Jan  8 11:01:40 eagle1 pulseaudio[16829]: module-alsa-sink.c:

asus eee 701 wifi on/off function key?

[Valent Turkovic]

Hi,
how to enable functionality of wifi on/off switch on asus eee 701?

Cheers,
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Re: My sound quit sometime in the last couple weeks...

[Linuxguy123]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 10:53 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote:

> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> a number of machines (myself included) lost sound with the last kernel update 
> - try booting the old kernel, if that works I suspect we're all running the 
> old kernel until a fix shows up.

You were right.   I edited grub.config to run 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686
instead of the new kernel and everything works again.  Thanks for the
tip.

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Re: F10 audio KDE ldap users

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 11:11 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:57 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
> >> Just finished installing F10 with next to no problems.  My only real 
> >> issue at this time is audio.
> >>
> >> In "messages" I get
> 
> snip
> 
> >>
> >> As the users that are using ldap are not listed in the user management, 
> >> how do I add these users to the "pulse-rt" group?  I have no control 
> >> over the ldap groups that have to work across multiple versions of Linux 
> >> and other OS's.
> >>
> >> I cannot even run the KDE setup for audio as "System Settings" freezes.
> > 
> > I think those 'error' messages in syslog are fairly typical and that you
> > don't actually need users in pulse-rt group at all.
> > 
> > is pulse daemon actually running on those machines? as user? If so, can
> > the user open 'Pulse Audio Manager' application (multimedia) and
> > connect? If not, can you have user open a shell and type 'pulseaudio -C'
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
> Yes it is.  It started when I logged in this morning.
> 
> rlaing   13672  0.0  0.0  87752  1144 ?S07:04   0:00 /bin/sh
> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
> rlaing   13676  0.0  0.0 137120  2124 ?S07:04   0:00
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
> rlaing   13717  0.0  0.0 137120  2156 ?S07:04   0:00
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
> rlaing   14154  0.0  0.0 137120  2160 ?S07:17   0:00
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
> 
> I don't see any Pulse Audio Manager in the Multimedia menu.
> 
> I tried to run pacmd and got these messages.
> 
> E: core-util.c: Failed to create secure directory: Permission denied
> E: pacmd.c: No PulseAudio daemon running
> 
> 
> The messages are the same and look related to lack of authorities to
> access certain parts of the program.
> 
> Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: Called SUID root and
> real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
> However, we lack the necessary privileges:
> 
> Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: We are not in group
> 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.
> 
> Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: For enabling real-time
> scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
> become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
> resource limits for this user.
> 
> Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: High-priority
> scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
> 
> Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: core-util.c: setpriority():
> Permission denied
> 
> Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: core-util.c: Failed to create
> securedirectory: Permission denied
> 
> Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
> access autospawn lock.
> 
> Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: Called SUID root and
> real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
> However, we lack the necessary privileges:
> 
> Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: We are not in group
> 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.
> 
> Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: For enabling real-time
> scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
> become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
> resource limits for this user.
> 
> Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: High-priority
> scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
> 
> Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: core-util.c: setpriority():
> Permission denied
> 
> Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: core-util.c: Failed to create
> securedirectory: Permission denied
> 
> Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
> access autospawn lock.
> 
> Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: Called SUID root and
> real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
> However, we lack the necessary privileges:
> 
> Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: We are not in group
> 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.
> 
> Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: For enabling real-time
> scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
> become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
> resource limits for this user.
> 
> Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: High-priority
> scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
> 
> Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: core-util.c: setpriority():
> Permission denied
> 
> Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: core-util.c: Failed to create
> securedirectory: Permission denied
> 
> Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
> access autospawn lock.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Mark Haney  wrote:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>
>>> If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
>>> about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
>>> purpose.
>>
>> It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
>> some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
>> function while not actually working with anything that previously
>> used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
>> And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
>> documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
>> then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.
>>
>
> No kidding.  Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
> another laptop (mine).  It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM.  A
> fresh install.  I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
> network info (wired).  Logged in as myself.


If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.

So please have more respect for the Fedora developers and
NetworkManager developers on this public forum. These guys have
provided me with too much good software for me to standby have people
needlessly disrespect their work.


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Re: Single mouse click interpreted as a double click

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 15:52 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009 14:28:09 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >> > I don't know about his, but I do know that I'm having some very odd
> > >> > mouse experiences.  Lately my mouse appears to often do a double-click
> > >> > when I'm pasting from the clip-board, so that 'Getting Started' comes
> > >> > out like 'GetGetting Startedting Started'.  It feels almost like the
> > >> > repeat setting of a keyboard being to quick to cut in.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anne
> >
> > Ann, I've found that to be a sign that the switch in the mouse was not
> > properly soldered in, leaving a small space under it, which in turn means
> > the solder joint and the foil of the pad can be carried away from the
> > circuit board by a thou or 3 by the pressure of the switch being pushed
> > fown into solid contact with the pcb, and eventually either the copper foil
> > breaks, or there is a hairline crack in the solder.
> >
> > The sequence then is that the switch closes with the down stroke, the joint
> > is pushed apart so its silently unclicked for the duration of the push,
> > then when the finger comes back off, the crack closes causing the 2nd
> > click, and finally the switch itself unclicks.  Effectively a double click
> > in double time.  New mouse time, or get out the controlled temp iron and
> > re-solder it around all the switches.  I like to use a silver bearing
> > solder for that as its much stronger physically than the usual eutectic
> > blend.
> 
> You could be right, Gene, but I've lengthened the delay in double-click time 
> for the moment, and I'll see whether that does it.  (For some reason my reply 
> to Aaron's suggestion to do this doesn't seem to have hit the list.)
> 
> Anne
It did hit the list. I saw it.
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Re: Media Player with bookmarks

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 23:51 +0800, Thomas Iverson wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 January 2009 14:50:01 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> >> Anyone know of a media player for F10 that has favorites like
> >> Media Player Classic for windows with position?
> >>
> > You have to remember that many of us haven't a clue what Media Player 
> > Classic
> > does, so unless you are very specific we have to guess :-)  Meanwhile, 
> > amarok
> > can give ratings to tracks and can, I believe, offer a list of recently 
> > played
> > tracks.  I think amarok1 could select most-played tracks, which would equate
> > to favourites, but I'm not certain whether this is the version of amarok2 
> > that
> > most distros have yet.
> >
> > Anne
> >
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> amarok and rhythmbox are strongly recommanded to use under Linux for
> music playing and managing :)
It bothers me that rhythembox can't read the tracks on thew CD and display them

> 
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Re: using VNC on Fedora

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 10:03 -0500, Claude Jones wrote:
> I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when 
> I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running 
> desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've 
> just 
> set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and 
> I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and 
> that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just 
> ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file 
> and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but, 
> nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can 
> someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the 
> same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just 
> offer much less capability in Linux? 
> -- 
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> 
Look at System->Preferences->Internet and Network->Remote Desktop
In f9 at least it will allow you to set up a vncserver that will do what
you want. Maybe it is similar in F10.
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No sound on youtube videos...

[Linuxguy123]

F10 32bit, all the updates.  I have no sound when watching youtube
videos.

Sound seems to work for everything else.

Any ideas ? 

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Re: No sound on youtube videos...

[Nicolae Ghimbovschi]

Do you have alsa-plugins-pulseaudio installed ?

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 20:38, Linuxguy123  wrote:
> F10 32bit, all the updates.  I have no sound when watching youtube
> videos.
>
> Sound seems to work for everything else.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
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Re: Ipod issues

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 18:05:28 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> >The iPod should be sent an eject rather than just a umount.  I'd say
> >if Dolphin isn't doing that, it's either a bug or user error (since I
> >don't know Dolphin, perhaps it's something you need to configure?).
> >Hopefully one of the many helpful KDE users/maintainers here can
> >clarify this.
>
> I will look into this then.
>
I don't have an ipod, but what usually happens is that when any external 
storage device is plugged in you get a popup from the notifier widget in your 
system tray - it only stays there for a few seconds, but you can click on the 
widget to get it back.  There you will see a link to Open with Dolphin.  This 
performs the mount.  I would think that the apps you talk about would require 
it to be mounted.

There are two ways of dealing with the umount - you can either select the ipod 
in the Places panel of dolphin, and right-click on it for Safely Remove, or 
you can use the notifier again.  In the notifier, if you hover over the ipod 
entry you will see an eject symbol at the right-hand side.  Click on that.  
Both methods work the same way.

HTH

Anne

> >I need more info to even guess.  When you say that you can't get
> >gtkpod or songbird to see the iPod, do you mean that it is not
> >automatically mounted when you plug it in or that it is mounted and
> >only these apps cannot access the device?
>
> It gets mounted no problem, but the two apps I listed don't see it
> and use it in their respective gui.
>
> >Is it safe to guess that you're using the Fedora package for gtkpod?
> >Songbird isn't packaged, and I don't know much at all about it.
>
> Yes, gtkpod is from the base repo, and songbird was off the contrib.
> packager page I believe.
>
> >Also, what iPod model is this?
>
> It's a 4 gig nano.
> Thanks so much Todd for all the help!




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Re: Media Player with bookmarks

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 08 January 2009 18:29:27 Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 23:51 +0800, Thomas Iverson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> > > On Thursday 08 January 2009 14:50:01 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > >> Anyone know of a media player for F10 that has favorites like
> > >> Media Player Classic for windows with position?
> > >
> > > You have to remember that many of us haven't a clue what Media Player
> > > Classic does, so unless you are very specific we have to guess :-) 
> > > Meanwhile, amarok can give ratings to tracks and can, I believe, offer
> > > a list of recently played tracks.  I think amarok1 could select
> > > most-played tracks, which would equate to favourites, but I'm not
> > > certain whether this is the version of amarok2 that most distros have
> > > yet.
> > >
> > amarok and rhythmbox are strongly recommanded to use under Linux for
> > music playing and managing :)
>
> It bothers me that rhythembox can't read the tracks on thew CD and display
> them
>
Have you tried that disk with amarok or kaffeine?  Is it just rhythmbox, or 
all players?

Anne


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Re: No sound on youtube videos...

[Linuxguy123]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 20:42 +0200, Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote:
> Do you have alsa-plugins-pulseaudio installed ?

I do now.  I didn't before now.  I was watching youtube videos a few
weeks ago and sound worked, apparently without it.

I still don't have sound on my youtube videos.  Do I need to configure
something or start pulseaudio ?

Thanks !



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Re: F10 audio KDE ldap users (SOLVED) :)

[Robin Laing]

Craig White wrote:

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 11:11 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:57 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
Just finished installing F10 with next to no problems.  My only real 
issue at this time is audio.


In "messages" I get

snip

As the users that are using ldap are not listed in the user management, 
how do I add these users to the "pulse-rt" group?  I have no control 
over the ldap groups that have to work across multiple versions of Linux 
and other OS's.


I cannot even run the KDE setup for audio as "System Settings" freezes.


I think those 'error' messages in syslog are fairly typical and that you
don't actually need users in pulse-rt group at all.

is pulse daemon actually running on those machines? as user? If so, can
the user open 'Pulse Audio Manager' application (multimedia) and
connect? If not, can you have user open a shell and type 'pulseaudio -C'

Craig


Yes it is.  It started when I logged in this morning.

rlaing   13672  0.0  0.0  87752  1144 ?S07:04   0:00 /bin/sh
/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
rlaing   13676  0.0  0.0 137120  2124 ?S07:04   0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
rlaing   13717  0.0  0.0 137120  2156 ?S07:04   0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
rlaing   14154  0.0  0.0 137120  2160 ?S07:17   0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

I don't see any Pulse Audio Manager in the Multimedia menu.

I tried to run pacmd and got these messages.

E: core-util.c: Failed to create secure directory: Permission denied
E: pacmd.c: No PulseAudio daemon running


The messages are the same and look related to lack of authorities to
access certain parts of the program.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: Called SUID root and
real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
However, we lack the necessary privileges:

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: We are not in group
'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: For enabling real-time
scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
resource limits for this user.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: main.c: High-priority
scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: core-util.c: setpriority():
Permission denied

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: core-util.c: Failed to create
securedirectory: Permission denied

Jan  8 07:04:43 eagle1 pulseaudio[13717]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
access autospawn lock.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: Called SUID root and
real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
However, we lack the necessary privileges:

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: We are not in group
'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: For enabling real-time
scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
resource limits for this user.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: main.c: High-priority
scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: core-util.c: setpriority():
Permission denied

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: core-util.c: Failed to create
securedirectory: Permission denied

Jan  8 07:17:58 eagle1 pulseaudio[14154]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
access autospawn lock.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: Called SUID root and
real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration.
However, we lack the necessary privileges:

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: We are not in group
'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: For enabling real-time
scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or
become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
resource limits for this user.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: main.c: High-priority
scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: core-util.c: setpriority():
Permission denied

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: core-util.c: Failed to create
securedirectory: Permission denied

Jan  8 10:45:39 eagle1 pulseaudio[15843]: lock-autospawn.c: Cannot
access autospawn lock.


SELinux is permissive and system has been retouched.  There are no
SELinux warnings related to this.

Now, I have a local account for testing and was used for setting up the 
system and I have sound in that account.  There in only one log message 
when I logged into that a

Re: No sound on youtube videos...

[Linuxguy123]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 12:02 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 20:42 +0200, Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote:
> > Do you have alsa-plugins-pulseaudio installed ?
> 
> I do now.  I didn't before now.  I was watching youtube videos a few
> weeks ago and sound worked, apparently without it.
> 
> I still don't have sound on my youtube videos.  Do I need to configure
> something or start pulseaudio ?
> 
> Thanks !

Sound works from Amarok, but I still don't have system sound.  The
system-config-sound utility still doesn't run.

Sound worked a couple weeks ago.  

uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 1
22:42:50 EST 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

# yum list alsa*
Loaded plugins: downloadonly, kmdl, priorities, refresh-packagekit
0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Installed Packages
alsa-lib.i386
1.0.18-6.rc3.fc10
installed
alsa-lib-devel.i386
1.0.18-6.rc3.fc10
installed
alsa-oss.i386
1.0.17-1.fc10
installed
alsa-oss-devel.i386
1.0.17-1.fc10
installed
alsa-oss-libs.i386
1.0.17-1.fc10
installed
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i386
1.0.18-2.fc10
installed
alsa-utils.i386
1.0.18-6.fc10
installed

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:26:53 -0600
Arthur Pemberton wrote:

> If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
> respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
> several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
> than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.

I've installed it on several different machines now, and never got
any functioning networking on any of the installs until I disabled
NetworkManager and enabled network.

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Jeff Spaleta]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> I've installed it on several different machines now, and never got
> any functioning networking on any of the installs until I disabled
> NetworkManager and enabled network.

Do you mean staticly configured networking?

-jef

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:26:53 -0600
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>
>> If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
>> respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
>> several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
>> than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.
>
> I've installed it on several different machines now, and never got
> any functioning networking on any of the installs until I disabled
> NetworkManager and enabled network.

Have you taken any measures to have it fixed? File bugs? Post to the
NM mailing list? Because this isn't normal.

I have given totally Linux newbies the live media and they get going
with full on wifi with no assistance.

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How do I allow regular user access to ttyUSB0 ?

[Linuxguy123]

I have a USB serial port that I use with my laptop.  Its a PL2303
device.   Linux recognizes it correctly and assigns it to device
ttyUSB0.  

I am having a problem whereby I can use ttyUSB0 as root but not as a
regular user.  I need to allow regular user access to ttyUSB0.  How do I
do this ?

Thanks 

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Mark Haney]

Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Mark Haney  wrote:
>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>>> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
>>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>>
 If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
 about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
 purpose.
>>> It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
>>> some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
>>> function while not actually working with anything that previously
>>> used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
>>> And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
>>> documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
>>> then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.
>>>
>> No kidding.  Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
>> another laptop (mine).  It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM.  A
>> fresh install.  I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
>> network info (wired).  Logged in as myself.
> 
> 
> If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
> respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
> several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
> than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.

I do have respect for the developers.  And yes it seems to be something
common when I have 5 systems have the problem.  All different hardware,
laptops, desktops, servers.  And I have never had trouble with wired
networking either until F10.  I've been a linux geek for 13 or 14 years
now (Slackware 3 anyone?) and I've never seen anything like this before.
I do not think this is a problem caused by the Fedora guys. I've been
nothing but the biggest fan of RH/Fedora my entire career. It started
out that way because they were local (I live in NC.) but I realized they
do damn good work.  This is just a silly implementation change that
didn't need to be made.  IMO.  Initiating an interface on log in?  Why?
 I still have yet to see any reasonable explanation. Not that I expect
to get one.

> 
> So please have more respect for the Fedora developers and
> NetworkManager developers on this public forum. These guys have
> provided me with too much good software for me to standby have people
> needlessly disrespect their work.
> 
> 

I have plenty of respect for ALL developers.  As I said above the Fedora
group do damn good work.  And, I believe the /intent/ to make a good all
around networking implementation is there in the NM devs.  I just think
it's a silly way to do it.  That's not disrespect, that's just a
disagreement.  Please, take your moral high ground elsewhere.  I am not
a sheep just waiting for the devs to spoon feed me with whatever they
want.  If I don't like something, I'm vocal about it.  I do file bug
reports, as many as I can feasibly handle.  The rest I deal with until
it's fixed or I find a different way of doing it.  That's the beauty of
open source.


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Re: How do I allow regular user access to ttyUSB0 ?

[Jeff Spaleta]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Linuxguy123  wrote:
> I have a USB serial port that I use with my laptop.  Its a PL2303
> device.   Linux recognizes it correctly and assigns it to device
> ttyUSB0.
>
> I am having a problem whereby I can use ttyUSB0 as root but not as a
> regular user.  I need to allow regular user access to ttyUSB0.  How do I
> do this ?
Try this:

In the F10 Gnome desktop
System Menu->System->Authorizations

In the Authorizations gui tree select

org->freedesktop->hal->device access->serial modems


Change the authorizations to whatever you like. You can open to all
users you can open to just the active console user, you can select
users.  For the sake of testing open it up to anyone without needing
authentication. Once that is modified try plugging in the usb serial
device and seeing if access works for your user.

-jef

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Video Problems

[Margaret Doll]

We have a lot of RedHat and Fedora systems.  We have only  had video  
problems on one of these systems.


To use get the graphics correctly running on a  console for a Dell  
Precision  530 with a display of P992, one has  to
have initial display files  that are specific to the system.  I cannot  
create an account on the Dell Precision 530 and have the console  
display work unless the login directory is directly on the 530 with  
the specific .gconf files for the 530.


I usually  create home directories on one system and have the home  
directory mounted on a bank of computers so that the user can sit  
anywhere in the room and log into the  same directory each time.


Say machine A contains our home directories and the 530 is not machine  
A.  A user sitting at the console of the 530
with his home directory on machine A and logging in,  gets a mostly  
black console screen on which no graphics appear.


I have only had this happen once, but cannot afford to have it happen  
again.   Are there any combination of Dell stations and monitors that  
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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 14:28 -0500, Mark Haney wrote:

> I have plenty of respect for ALL developers.  As I said above the Fedora
> group do damn good work.  And, I believe the /intent/ to make a good all
> around networking implementation is there in the NM devs.  I just think
> it's a silly way to do it.  That's not disrespect, that's just a
> disagreement.  Please, take your moral high ground elsewhere.  I am not
> a sheep just waiting for the devs to spoon feed me with whatever they
> want.  If I don't like something, I'm vocal about it.  I do file bug
> reports, as many as I can feasibly handle.  The rest I deal with until
> it's fixed or I find a different way of doing it.  That's the beauty of
> open source.

the assumptions when you use the Live-CD to install...

that you are using dhcp, that you are installing a workstation, not a
server and thus it installs and configures NetworkManager.

If you would just download the full DVD and install from that, you would
save yourself a headache because it would match your expectations.

Given the amount of installations that you seem to do, it almost makes
sense for you to just mirror the entire 'Everything' and 'updates' and
install via NFS or HTTP from your own mirror. I personally use 'yam'
which is Dag Wieer's brilliant tool for creating mirrors of various
repo's with fsync.

Craig

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