Wanted: a Graphic Designer
Hi http://loupgaroublond.blogspot.com/2009/04/wanted-graphic-designer.html The Ohio Linux Fest team is looking for a volunteer to do some graphic design for the upcoming conference in 2009. From what i gathered, the primary job would be to maintain a consistent look across materials distributed and create any logos or other graphic design work needed Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 DVD label, how does this look like?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 susmit shannigrahi a écrit : | Hi, | Just made this. | http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/f11_dvd_label.jpg | | Your comments please? | Note that artwork used for Fedora 11 Beta is not final. Take a look to this topic[1]. Ref: [1]http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00217.html - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknZN54ACgkQa10Jb0NOz+FpsQCfU/03U15VPNpIX6z0JoHP9bQ9 yTwAn0iK1pKGHi/IxyiH+tfBoXSbdu1f =3xD3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Bug 494092] Liberation fonts under GTK applications cannot render with antialiasing
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494092 --- Comment #1 from Hasan Ceylan hcey...@batoo.org 2009-04-05 05:00:10 EDT --- I do not know what's going on under the hood but here's what works for me. Credit goes to http://gordonazmo.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/a-simple-tweak-to-make-your-gtk-fonts-look-nice-in-kde/ I already had gtk-qt-engine-1.1-5.fc11.i586. I cannot test GNOME right now but at least for GTK apps under KDE that solution works for me. So a missing link is resotered by #ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/ I do not know which rpm should be responsible for providing this symbolic link therefore I will leave the subject and category as it is although my initial guess is totally wrong. Hasan -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Using Fedora as a base for some custom appliance.
Hi, I hope this is the correct list :) I'd like to use Fedora as a base for an appliance including some closed-source components. Is this legal, when following the guidelines mentioned in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines#Distributing_combinations_of_Fedora_software_with_non-Fedora_or_modified_Fedora_software ? The questions is not about how the closed-sourced-components are linked, but more about, whether we can use fedora as a base or not. Greetings fabian ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Using Fedora as a base for some custom appliance.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Fabian Deutsch fabian.deut...@gmx.de wrote: The questions is not about how the closed-sourced-components are linked, but more about, whether we can use fedora as a base or not. IANAL, but this usage is permissible, provided that you use the secondary mark (or some other trademark) for the final product, and follow all of the other requirements in that section. ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: Resources to learn C
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:17:29 +0930 Tim wrote: We had big heavy manual typewriters, too. I was a bit cautious about signing up for typing classes, figuring that I'd be the only boy, and subject to ridicule outside of the class. Oddly, the class was about half and half. I guess they were into computers, too. I lived in a small town (well, I still do but it's a different town) and I don't think there was a single computer within several hundred miles at that time. The typing class taught me a number of things other than straight typing that have been very useful over the years. How to properly fold a letter to fit into an envelope, as one example. While officially called the Typing Class, it was actually geared to how to be a secretary. We learned how to do filing and that kind of thing as well. Frankly, I firmly believe that I use more of what I learned in Typing Class on a daily basis than any other individual thing that I learned in high school. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On 4/5/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: KDE user here, and I think his opinion is not far from the truth (though IMHO vi and Emacs are equally useless, there isn't one worse than the other). There may be reasons for not liking vi or emacs, but their being useless is certainly not one of them. Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:49:59 +0200 Andras Simon wrote: There may be reasons for not liking vi or emacs, but their being useless is certainly not one of them. That reminds me of the hatred that so many people seemed to have for DOS edlin, when it was actually the handiest way to edit a text file from a script (batch file). -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Suspend fails using fglrx on F10
Hello all, I have an old Dell D610 (R300) which was doing what I wanted (films, openarena, tv-out, suspend) with Fedora 10 until fglrx 9.2 (or was it 9.1?) arrived. Anyway 9.3 didn't help. Now suspend fails. Black screen if you try. The log file http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16312# after reboot, thinks it succeeded. Does anyone have it working? Do I have to unload fglrx manually? Thanks for any clues - its a major hassle for me. Bill -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Fwd: [imp] [Fwd: [Fwd: Error message of Unable to retrieve quota from IMP]]]
Dear All,
Who can help me to solve the problem ?
Thanks !
Edward.
Original Message
Subject: [imp] [Fwd: [Fwd: Error message of Unable to retrieve quota
from IMP]]
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:06:52 +0800
From: edward...@ita.org.mo
To: IMP i...@lists.horde.org
CC: ho...@lists.horde.org ho...@lists.horde.org
Dear All,
Sorry, for the URL :
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1928/impquotafunction.jpg
Thanks !
Edward.
Original Message
Subject:[imp] [Fwd: Error message of Unable to retrieve quota from
IMP]
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:55:18 +0800
From: edward...@ita.org.mo
To: IMP i...@lists.horde.org
CC: ho...@lists.horde.org ho...@lists.horde.org
Original Message
Subject:Error message of Unable to retrieve quota from IMP
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:41:08 +0800
From: edward...@ita.org.mo
To: IMP i...@lists.horde.org
CC: ho...@lists.horde.org ho...@lists.horde.org
Dear All,
Mine is Linux FC6 ( Include Apache Web Server ), WebMail Client ( IMP
4.1.5, Horde 3.1.5 ).
The Quota display function can't be good for work as the following link:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1928/impquotafunction.jpg
For our config setting:
horde/imp/config/servers.php
$servers['cyrus'] = array(
'name' = 'Mail Server',
'server' = 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx',
'hordeauth' = false,
'protocol' = 'imap/notls',
'port' = 143,
'maildomain' = 'xxx.xxx.xxx',
'smtphost' = 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx',
'smtpport' = 25,
'realm' = '',
'preferred' = '',
'quota' = array(
'driver' = 'command',
'params' = array(
'quota_path' = '/usr/bin/quota',
'grep_path' = '/bin/grep'
)
),
);
command.php :
function IMP_Quota_command($params = array())
{
$this-_params = array(
'quota_path' = 'sudo quota',
'grep_path' = 'sudo grep',
'partition' = null
);
$this-_params = array_merge($this-_params, $params);
}
function getQuota()
{
$imap_user = $_SESSION['imp']['user'];
if (empty($this-_params['partition'])) {
$passwd_array = posix_getpwnam($imap_user);
list($junk, $search_string, $junk) = explode('/', $passwd_array['dir']);
} else {
$search_string = $this-_params['partition'];
}
$cmdline = $this-_params['quota_path'] . ' -u ' . $imap_user . ' | ' .
$this-_params['grep_path'] . ' ' . $search_string;
exec($cmdline, $quota_data, $return_code);
if (($return_code == 0) (count($quota_data) == 1)) {
$quota = split([[:blank:]]+, trim($quota_data[0]));
$blocksize = $this-blockSize();
return array('usage' = $quota[1] * $blocksize,
'limit' = $quota[2] * $blocksize);
}
return PEAR::raiseError(_(Unable to retrieve quota), 'horde.error');
}
sudo ( sudo-1.6.8p12-10 ) :
Host_Alias MH= itahost1
User_Alias WEB = nobody
Cmnd_Alias WEBADMIN = /usr/bin/quota, /bin/grep
WEB MH = NOPASSWD: WEBADMIN
Under the Linux ENV :
[mana...@svr1 ~]$ sudo quota -u edward
Disk quotas for user edward (uid 500):
Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace
/dev/sda2 1720 0 10240 1 0 0
[mana...@svr ~]$ ls -l -h /var/spool/mail/edward
-rw--- 1 edward mail 1.7M Apr 5 14:30 /var/spool/mail/edward
So, what config mistake I have ?
Would you mind to help to solve the problem of Unable to retrieve quota ?
Thank !
Edward.
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Re: Suspend fails using fglrx on F10
2009/4/5 William Murray bill.mur...@stfc.ac.uk: Hello all, I have an old Dell D610 (R300) which was doing what I wanted (films, openarena, tv-out, suspend) with Fedora 10 until fglrx 9.2 (or was it 9.1?) arrived. Anyway 9.3 didn't help. Now suspend fails. Black screen if you try. The log file http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16312# after reboot, thinks it succeeded. Does anyone have it working? Do I have to unload fglrx manually? Thanks for any clues - its a major hassle for me. Bill While I can't help with debugging the situtation, I'd recommend switching to the free drivers, because 1) They are free software 2) They are really supported in Fedora 3) They should work on your hardware out-of-the-box 4) The next fgrlx release from AMD is going to drop support for R300-based Radeon cards. -- Joonas Sarajärvi mue...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thoughts on how to write a linux virus in 5 easy steps
On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 18:49 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: Hi, The following article has created quite some discussion, so I wanted to hear what all the real experts (here) thought about it. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229 The article raises quite a few good points. Whether they have merit, and whether remedies are in-built is what I am wondering. This is just about the lamest article on any form of programming that I have ever read. His code is not self replicating (but it might be able to load something that is), it requires misdirection and operator action, and is a Trojan. In addition, he wrote it apparently to a standing challenge that requires writing a file to /etc, which he did not do, nor did he show even high level pseudo code for that operation. I won't add further flames here, but come on, this is just flame bait, and I bit... but don't expect further discussion from me. Regards, Les H -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get per desktop wallpaper?
On Saturday 04 April 2009 23:00:12 Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm running KDE and Fedora 9. When running Fedora 8, I had a different wallpaper for each desktop. With Fedora 9, I haven't figured out how to do that. Everything I can find to change the desktop background changes it for all the desktops. What is the incantation to change them one at a time? You can't. However, if you use Activities instead of Desktops, you can. You might like to look at http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma sections 2.15 and 2.16. Using the Activity Bar for switching, as this describes makes Activities as convenient as Desktops. The good side is that widgets are added per Activity - you get just the ones that you have selected as relevant to that class of activity. The less good side is that the panel still shows all your open applications, whichever Activity they are being used under. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get per desktop wallpaper?
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2009 23:00:12 Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm running KDE and Fedora 9. When running Fedora 8, I had a different wallpaper for each desktop. With Fedora 9, I haven't figured out how to do that. Everything I can find to change the desktop background changes it for all the desktops. What is the incantation to change them one at a time? You can't. However, if you use Activities instead of Desktops, you can. You might like to look at http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma sections 2.15 and 2.16. Using the Activity Bar for switching, as this describes makes Activities as convenient as Desktops. The good side is that widgets are added per Activity - you get just the ones that you have selected as relevant to that class of activity. The less good side is that the panel still shows all your open applications, whichever Activity they are being used under. Anne Any idea if the old per desktop wallpaper feature is ever coming back? -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get per desktop wallpaper?
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:25:13 Arthur Pemberton wrote: Any idea if the old per desktop wallpaper feature is ever coming back? I've not seen anything either way. However, I haven't seen any enthusiasm for developing for the old desktop paradigm, so I wouldn't hold my breath. I hadn't been using Activities because the zoom out, change activity, zoom back in model seemed so clunky. However, with the Activity Bar on a hiding mini-panel making the swap so quick and easy. I'm starting to use it more. (I never was a heavy multi-desktop user.) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Saturday 04 April 2009 11:56:43 Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there something better? Ignore all answers and try it :-) Remember that one man's meat is another man's poison. You have plenty of choices in Linux, and the work you save will be readable in any of the edtors, so you have nothing to lose. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get per desktop wallpaper?
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:25:13 Arthur Pemberton wrote: Any idea if the old per desktop wallpaper feature is ever coming back? I've not seen anything either way. However, I haven't seen any enthusiasm for developing for the old desktop paradigm, so I wouldn't hold my breath. I hadn't been using Activities because the zoom out, change activity, zoom back in model seemed so clunky. However, with the Activity Bar on a hiding mini-panel making the swap so quick and easy. I'm starting to use it more. (I never was a heavy multi-desktop user.) Anne I hope they bring it back and not force activities on users. I frankly don't get activities. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resources to learn C
On Sunday 05 April 2009 03:09:45 Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 11:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: Remember the old David Ahl Basic Computer Games books? (If you don't, you can find them online at http://www.atariarchives.org ) I remember books like that for other systems. We'd spend ages typing in code, there'd be some obscure typing errors. We'd print it out, so we could find the errors quickly (much easier than repeatedly scrolling through the tiny window of text you see on the screen), pencil in all the corrections, go back and type them in. Run it, find it still errors. Then we'd ring up the shop and ask for the errata for page 3 of whichever book, and they'd read it over the phone to us. You don't know how lucky you are, now, with your precompiled RPMs... I learned to program in basic by typing in the listings, then working out why the game didn't run, or why it was so simplistic that I could add several features to it. Computing was pure fun in those days - for most of us it didn't impinge on work :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get per desktop wallpaper?
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:41:34 Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:25:13 Arthur Pemberton wrote: Any idea if the old per desktop wallpaper feature is ever coming back? I've not seen anything either way. However, I haven't seen any enthusiasm for developing for the old desktop paradigm, so I wouldn't hold my breath. I hadn't been using Activities because the zoom out, change activity, zoom back in model seemed so clunky. However, with the Activity Bar on a hiding mini-panel making the swap so quick and easy. I'm starting to use it more. (I never was a heavy multi-desktop user.) I hope they bring it back and not force activities on users. I frankly don't get activities. But then, you see, I didn't get 6 or more desktops :-) It's all a matter of choice, how you work. If desktops are the answer for you, fine. Everything else works as expected, I think, just not the wallpaper. I can see that it is an eye-candy desirable, but not really a show-stopper. Still, each to his own. :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
rubygem/rake/hoe update dependency failure
on f9 this morning: -- Finished Dependency Resolution rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 is needed by package rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey) -- Running transaction check --- Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9 set to be erased --- Package kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9 set to be erased --- Package rubygem-hoe.noarch 0:1.11.0-1.fc9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 for package: rubygem-hoe -- Finished Dependency Resolution rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 is needed by package rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey) Error: Missing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 is needed by package rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey) rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thoughts on how to write a linux virus in 5 easy steps
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, The following article has created quite some discussion, so I wanted to hear what all the real experts (here) thought about it. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229 The article raises quite a few good points. Whether they have merit, and whether remedies are in-built is what I am wondering. Firstly a properly written desktop environment shouldn't be trying to run saved files not marked as executable (and Unix has had the execute bit for good reason since the 1970s). Secondly you can use SELinux labelling to control the execution of stuff saved on disk. In a business environment stopping people downloading and running stuff they downloaded is of course a very important and powerful tool. So it was basically a problem created by poorly written desktop software not using even basic security models. There are nastier variants of this problem too. Some file formats people think of as just data contain instructions and these can do stuff like create files. Postscript is one example. Postscript supports a safe mode but people are forever creating apps that don't run in safe mode when you view a file on your desktop (because it is trusted right) despite the fact that todays world is the other way up. Another example needing care is handling of saved web pages containing javascript etc. Historically your filestore consisted of *your* content and a few carefully saved files obtained by other means. In todays internet world your filestore usually consists of vast amounts of material shared between users, mixed from bits of other users and the like. And at that point the desktop defaults of local content should be trusted are just plain wrong. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thoughts on how to write a linux virus in 5 easy steps
And issues that I've not liked with Linux, in general: That /home and /tmp are generally mounted, by default, in a manner that allows execution. I'd suggest that only a programmer may need to allow file execution from their homespace. Most users, who don't write scripts, won't need it. There is some truth in this, but you can do the job far better using SELinux and relabelling. If a user has to select a file on their desktop and right click Make into a launcher (aka 'SELinux relabel' behind the scenes) it would be a good deal more robust. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rubygem/rake/hoe update dependency failure
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:37:50 -0400 (EDT), Robert wrote: on f9 this morning: -- Finished Dependency Resolution rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 is needed by package rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey) -- Running transaction check --- Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9 set to be erased --- Package kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9 set to be erased --- Package rubygem-hoe.noarch 0:1.11.0-1.fc9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 for package: rubygem-hoe -- Finished Dependency Resolution rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 is needed by package rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey) Error: Missing Dependency: rubygem(rake) = 0.8.4 is needed by package rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey) rubygem-rake is still sitting in updates-testing while rubygem-hoe has been pushed to stable: rubygem-hoe-1.11.0-1.fc9 enhancement update https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-2807 rubygem-hoe-1.12.1-1.fc9 enhancement update https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-3243 rubygem-rake-0.8.4-1.fc9 enhancement update https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-2793 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
Hello, It seems to me that there is no need for defrag; and there **is** a change between resizing with ntfsresize and gparted. According to man ntfsresize: Defragmentation is NOT required prior to resizing because the program can relocate any data if needed, without risking data integrity. and also: Similarly to other command line filesystem resizers, ntfsresize doesn’t manipulate the size of the partitions, hence to do that you must use a disk partitioning tool as well, for example fdisk(8). Regards, Rami Rosen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: using 'mv' instead of 'cp' to transfer directories to other partitions or disks
Aaron Konstam wrote: If you are using mv to transfer to a different disk or partition it probably a little slower. Right. Because mv from one partition to another is: cp + delete src. And this is slower than just cp, but only slightly since marking a file deleted is very fast. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kde 4 with old layout
Hi list, Is it possible to have fedora 10 with KDE3 or with KDE4 and kde 3 layout. After Some month of use, I really find it slow!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:47:20 Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? I think that most of us are fed up with this kind of trolling. If you have problems with KDE4, please ask specific questions and we will try to help you. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ToDo,notes,planning sw
Hello guys, I am looking for an easy interesting program for gnome for making notes , basic planning. Like ToDo per day with quick reminder (just optional). Thanks, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde 4 with old layout
On Sunday 05 April 2009 13:03:36 Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list, Is it possible to have fedora 10 with KDE3 or with KDE4 and kde 3 layout. That all depends what you mean :-) If you mean what I think you mean, http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/KDE3toKDE4#Creating_icons_on_the_desktop will tell you how to do it. OTOH, if you mean something different, please be a bit more precise :-) After Some month of use, I really find it slow!! Some measurements have been done, and it does use a little more RAM, but not as much as you'd think from the change in speed. It seems that most of the problems are caused by video card drivers. KDE4 stresses some parts of the drivers that were little used or not at all used in KDE3. So much so, in fact, that NVidia agreed that several bugs had been identified from running KDE4, and they have made changes to their drivers because of that. Depending on your graphics card, it may be possible to improve things, or it may not. See whether any of the hints in http://userbase.kde.org/GPU- Performance help you. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde 4 with old layout
Anne Wilson wrote: After Some month of use, I really find it slow!! Some measurements have been done, and it does use a little more RAM, but not as much as you'd think from the change in speed. It seems that most of the problems are caused by video card drivers. KDE4 stresses some parts of the drivers that were little used or not at all used in KDE3. So much so, in fact, that NVidia agreed that several bugs had been identified from running KDE4, and they have made changes to their drivers because of that. Oh, no! Don't tell me you've actually had a vendor of closed source software actually listen to you and fix something. I've heard so many people say that can't happen :-) -- There is nothing so easy but that it becomes difficult when you do it reluctantly. -- Publius Terentius Afer (Terence) mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
2009/4/5 Stanisław T. Findeisen sf181...@students.mimuw.edu.pl: Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? I think it is very usable. I have used the KDE 4 series daily for about a year, and in my opinion, it was very good already last fall when they released KDE 4.1. KDE 4.0 has some clear shortcomings, but even it was certainly better than unusable at all. I used to use it daily, too, and it wasn't nearly as hard as some people often seem to claim. I actually think that KDE 4.0 was already much nicer than the KDE 3 series. (I used to use Gnome before the KDE 4.0 release). Now that there have been many very significant improvements in KDE since 4.0, I have hard time understanding why some people are so keenly calling it completely unusable. -- Joonas Sarajärvi mue...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ToDo,notes,planning sw
David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, I am looking for an easy interesting program for gnome for making notes , basic planning. Like ToDo per day with quick reminder (just optional). There are a few: zim, tomboy, notecase etc. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 14:20 +0300, Rami Rosen wrote: Similarly to other command line filesystem resizers, ntfsresize doesn’t manipulate the size of the partitions, hence to do that you must use a disk partitioning tool as well, for example fdisk(8). Which is what gparted does for you: Arrange file system and partition resizing, in the right order. It's a front end for the various command that you could issue manually. I still wonder if anybody's compared speeds to using Windows to defrag itself first, versus letting gparted take care of the whole thing. Here, Windows 2000 spent several hours defragging a four gig hard drive before I had at it with gparted to do the resizing (I didn't find the note about not needing to defrag until it was too late, despite looking for comments about defragging beforehand). -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resources to learn C
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 10:43 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: I learned to program in basic by typing in the listings, then working out why the game didn't run, or why it was so simplistic that I could add several features to it. Computing was pure fun in those days - for most of us it didn't impinge on work :-) Back when you had a personal computer with no operating system, just a bootloader routine (usually for cassettes), the computer was entirely yours to do whatever you could think of doing with it. I've still got a VZ300 (Z80 CPU) computer in the box of bits, here. It was one of those all hardware and no software devices. Someday I'll find someone who wants it to play with. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resources to learn C
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:39 +0930, Tim wrote: I've still got a VZ300 (Z80 CPU) computer in the box of bits, here. It was one of those all hardware and no software devices. Someday I'll find someone who wants it to play with. I'm sure someone will pick me up on the above. Yes, it does have a BASIC interpreter in the ROM. But any actual programs you had to supply, one way or another. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:35 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 14:20 +0300, Rami Rosen wrote: Similarly to other command line filesystem resizers, ntfsresize doesn’t manipulate the size of the partitions, hence to do that you must use a disk partitioning tool as well, for example fdisk(8). Which is what gparted does for you: Arrange file system and partition resizing, in the right order. It's a front end for the various command that you could issue manually. I still wonder if anybody's compared speeds to using Windows to defrag itself first, versus letting gparted take care of the whole thing. Here, Windows 2000 spent several hours defragging a four gig hard drive before I had at it with gparted to do the resizing (I didn't find the note about not needing to defrag until it was too late, despite looking for comments about defragging beforehand). dd is just the tool for replicating fragmented WinNT drives too...you probably missed an opportunity. Then again, a 4 Gb HD doesn't leave much space if your going to share Win2K with Linux. I was there with my Sony C1X, Win2K bit the dust, defrag problem easily solved. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resources to learn C
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 00:48 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: The typing class taught me a number of things other than straight typing that have been very useful over the years. How to properly fold a letter to fit into an envelope, as one example. Well, that too. But we did learn a few more useful things that mightn't be self evident - like how to write certain types of letters, etc. While officially called the Typing Class, it was actually geared to how to be a secretary. We learned how to do filing and that kind of thing as well. We had a more encompassing commerce subject that did that. Our typing lessons were purely what you did with the typewriter. But on that note, if people only learnt a bit of filing and organisation before touching a computer, they made life a lot easier for themselves. Unless they never kept anything more than about five files on their computer... The mess I've seen on other people's computers when they've got me to fix them up for them was sheer torture to deal with. The commerce subject was one of the few which left our students able to go from high school to a job, without needing tertiary study. Few other subjects were that practical. Frankly, I firmly believe that I use more of what I learned in Typing Class on a daily basis than any other individual thing that I learned in high school. Most of what my high school taught was utterly useless, and I say that with less sour grapes than it might sound like. I did work there for about half a dozen years, later on. My opinion didn't change then, nor now. If anything, it worsened. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: view more or less?
On Friday 03 April 2009 04:00:45 Steve Searle wrote: round 03:18am on Friday, April 03, 2009 (UK time), Paul Ward scrawled: I was wanting to look at a file the other day and my colleague insisted I do not use less but view instead. [snip] Also you can't pipe into it, e.g you can't use view to do something like: $ dmesg | less Of course you can: $ dmesg|view - Vim: Reading from stdin... $ In short they are different tools that have some overlap in what they can do, but they are not functionally equivalent. Yup. -- Garry T. Williams --- +1 678 656-4579 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 13:47 +0200, Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? I think you shgould read the archives of this list over the last 6 months or so. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum issues..
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:07:52 -0700 From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com Subject: Re: Yum issues.. To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1238814472.28700.13.ca...@lin-workstation.azapple.com Content-Type: text/plain As mentioned above, I can no longer read my DVD drive or USB's, only HD is available. Fedora 10 has live-cd and full DVD, either of which can be used to install Fedora 10 or update to Fedora 10. Craig, I ordered a DVD from linuxcentral for update to fc10. I think it should boot okay. I use Xunbuntu as VM and the drive does respond. If you cannot boot a CD or DVD and if you cannot boot from USB port (i.e. like a USB thumb drive or USB hard disk drive), your options are very few. Not to mention the hoops to jump through. Using yum to upgrade from Fedora 5 to Fedora 9 or Fedora 10 might have been possible while you had interim releases available in repositories (i.e. Fedora 6, 7, 8) but I think they have all been removed. I have a core5 DVD here I used in the beginning. Doesn't read with Gui up but might at start. Just in case you feel you want to try to pull it off (and I seriously don't know how you are going to do that), you will definitely want to read this information really carefully... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq Could 'do that' with more options if Yum was working...or the DVD. Does 'dbus' messages at start have anything to do with the DVD? Found this enticing command- #Yum erase dbus.i386 There is a major gotcha at Fedora 7 where the ata subsystem is replaced by scsi so your drives change from /dev/hda to /dev/sda, etc. which affects booting (grub) and fstab and it's clearly a fail point. Im sure we could avoid it. I can get to grub but I know no commands there, and can also get to 'I'nteractive. You would also have to find some mirror somewhere that didn't purge the old versions of Fedora 6/7/8 so you could interim step each upgrade. I found..then lost a mirror site but did/have not found a download depository yet for fc8 or the others. They may well not exist. Will look again and keep you updated on this. Now I'm somewhat unclear what you're asking about getting the system and services back in place...do you mean trying to make Fedora 5 work again? System hangs vicariously on boot. I posted the outputs earlier for named and messagebus but they were under a different subject line. We fixed NFS when you sent me to LDAP, I turned it off but won't find out about it till after I shut down today. Does dbus_messagebus have anything at all to do with the way Yum works or two separate issues. I wouldn't know what's broken other than some tinkering with /etc/yum.repos.d files This is what I would like to do; delete all those in repos.d and start over fresh. enter the baseurl's for the versioning, incremental steps, if they exist. Please advise. Craig If tinkering with repos.d is of no use, I won't ask for the impossible. Mailman will be by next week... Appreciate your help, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum issues..
dco...@efn.org: From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com You would also have to find some mirror somewhere that didn't purge the old versions of Fedora 6/7/8 so you could interim step each upgrade. I found..then lost a mirror site but did/have not found a download depository yet for fc8 or the others. They may well not exist. Will look again and keep you updated on this. Fedora Core 1 - 6 http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/ Fedora 7 - 8 http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/ Any Fedora mirror will have Fedora 9 - 10 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resources to learn C
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:51 AM, m maximilianbia...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to learn C. Could you please suggest to me some resources to help me with learning C? Preferably, I would like find online resources. Have a look here... http://www.freebookcentre.net/Language/Free-C-Books-Download.html Many thanks to all respondents for your helpful suggestions. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Final Details of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'
Date of inauguration Followed by FOSS Events: 18th April, 2009 1. The 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' will be the support and development group for FOSS (Free and Open Source Software). 2. The membership of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' is open to all, even from other colleges. 3. A candidate will have to Register for membership and join the mailing list of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' to be considered as a member. Mailing List: http://groups.google.com/group/kgeclug After completing this process, the candidate will be given the membership certificate. 4. The members of the 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' can request free media (CD's and DVD's) of any available Linux Distribution to the core-committee. 5. The members of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' can post all their Linux related problems in the Mailing List and can also help with the solution of others problem. The Mailing List also has experts from the FOSS community to guide and help with the solution. 6. There will be a core-committee of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' whose members will be sound in Technical Skill. 7. The core-committee will help the Linux users (support) and will use their skills for contribution to FOSS community (Development). 8. The core-committee members will take decisions of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' and carry on FOSS Events. 9. The core-committee members will install and maintain few computers assigned to the 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' in Library and Computer Labs of KGEC. 10. The core-committee members will do their work after the college hour (since it is branch and year independent). 11. The membership of core-committee is open to all KGEC Students. 12. A candidate can get the membership of the core-committee after completing the following process: a. The candidate will have to be a member of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. b. The candidate will have to register for membership in core-committee. c. The candidate will have to actively participate and work under the guidance of the existing core committee. d. After a month, the candidate will be considered a member of the core-committee if the existing core-committee feels that the candidate has worked for the core-committee and is possessing necessary technical skills for the post. Skills Required: i) The candidate should be able to perform installation and configure a Linux System and use it for all basic needs (music, internet, LAN, CD writing, etc) ii) The candidate should have the knowledge of partitioning and Linux file-systems. iii) The candidate should be able to solve basic problems of users. e. The candidate will be given the core-committee membership certificate. f. If the candidate is still not well suited for the post, he/she will have to continue his/her activities with the core-committee for few more days as a non core-committee member. Eventually the membership will be approved. 13. The Secretary will be the head of core-committee. 14. The President will be the head of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. 15. The Treasurer will be in charge of all the Funds of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. Secretary: Rohit Gupta (IT-2nd year, KGEC) President: Mr. Kousik Dasgupta (Lecturer, Dept of CSE) Treasurer: Prof. Satadal Mal (HOD, Dept. of EE) No. of Computers expected and Details: a) 1 (one) in Library (already installed). b) 5 (Five) from every Department (CSE, EE, IT, ME, ECE, MCA). c) The maintainance of computers will be done after college hours (5 pm). d)Each computer will have the label as Maintained by GNU/LUG of KGEC. Work already Done: 1) Having Successfully conducting an installfest in KGEC. Details: http://kgeclug.blog.co.in/ Photo Gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/kgec/ http://picasaweb.google.co.in/kgeclug/KGECInstallfest09 http://www.flickr.com/photos/indradg/sets/72157614247371239/ 2) Setting up a computer in the college Library which has public access with a poster as 'Maintained by GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. 3) Starting the Linux For You Magazine in college. Starting this month (April '09). 4) We have the full fedora repository (25.7 GB) for Intel architecture. So no internet connection required for installation of additional software. 5) We have loads of many other different distributions (ubuntu, suse, slackware, etc). 6) The setting up of full fedora repo in RBC and VC. Membership Fees: 1. For membership of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' : Rs. 60 2. For membership in core-committee of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' : Rs. 30 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Any tips on Asus PC eee 1000HE netbook?
I've just acquired one of the above beasties. The thing comes with XP, so I'm interested in installing a dual-boot system with Fedora. AFAIK the 900 and 901 models are known to work, but the 1000HE is fairly new. I wondered if people who've already done this can warn me of potential pitfalls. All advice gratefully accepted. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 locked up while installing dl'd updates
First I must say that the F10 freezup, was not F10's fault, but a continuing problem I have with my Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, as it happens with other distros. Back to the plot. While the updates on F10 were installing, the machine decided to freeze. No keyboard, no mouse, no nothing, except a static image on KDE, like a screenshot. I had no alternative, but to press the reboot button. When I've had this happen on Debian installs, I run apt-get dist-upgrade, and apt-get complains, telling me to run, dpkg-reconfigure -a. This fixes the problem with packages that were partially installed when the machine froze up, then running apt-get dist-upgrade again, the remaining packages are installed. When F10 rebooted, I ran apt-get dist-upgrade (I use apt on Fedora), but apt-get complained about dependency problems due to duplicate packages on the system. Apt-get gave the following errors. E: Transaction set check failed E: Handler silently failed I tried various suggestions from apt-get, like, apt-get --fix-broken install, with no success. After a serious session of rpm -e on the various packages that had duplicates, some 3hrs later, I had reduced the list of problem packages to zero, and ran apt-get dist-upgrade again, which now continued with installing the remaining packages. The question is, is there some command I could have used on Fedora, similar to the Debian, dpkg-reconfigure -a, which is able to resolve problems with partially installed packages, when you get a power out, or in my case, the machine decides to freeze up, while installing the updates. I had a good look in the man page for rpm, but couldn't see anything there that might help, but there may be other commands not in the man page of course. As usual, thanks for any suggestions. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resources to learn C
Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 10:43 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: I learned to program in basic by typing in the listings, then working out why the game didn't run, or why it was so simplistic that I could add several features to it. Computing was pure fun in those days - for most of us it didn't impinge on work :-) Back when you had a personal computer with no operating system, just a bootloader routine (usually for cassettes), the computer was entirely yours to do whatever you could think of doing with it. You still were at mercy of the bootloader. Now, the 8008 didn't even have a boot loader - you had to toggle in everything in binary from the front panel. (There were many others that required this as well.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
sound is unstable after last updates
After the last kernel update my sound now works great for the login, logout, etc sounds but if I play music with amarok, kaffiene or rhythm box (havent tried any others) then it plays fine for about a minute then turns to fuzzy intermittent attempts to play and it appears to be sucking up the cpu since the mouse becomes less responsive and killing the program at that point is a slow process. Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resources to learn C
Hi Paul; I have noticed this thread has drifted down memory lane. To return to your original question On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 18:51 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I am trying to learn C. Could you please suggest to me some resources to help me with learning C? Preferably, I would like find online resources. Are you a student? Meaning do you have a course outline you have to follow and learning deadlines you have to meet? Are you completely new to programming or do you just want to add 'C' to other programming skills you already have? I ask because over the last two or three years I have taught myself the rudiments of 'C' after having done nothing more than a few small bash scripts and some M$ VBA. I found there was several different paths you could take and depending on your skill level many dead ends or side paths you can get your self trapped in. I am willing to share some eureka moments with you if I had an idea what level you are starting at. For example, if you are completely new to programming, I suggest starting with gedit or kedit. The learning curve on emacs and vim are so high you could spend your first 10 to 20 hours just getting familiar with either of them before really writing a line of code -- and then hours of frustration thereafter. All the pro's swear by one or the other because they are text editors made for heavy lifting. But they are not where you want to be when just starting. They can come later. Let us know, I am willing, and I am sure others on this list would be willing, to get you started. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
Hi Paul; See my post to you on your Resources to learn C thread. On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 11:56 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there something better? Thanks in advance, For example, if you are completely new to programming, I suggest starting with gedit or kedit [sec: Kate]. I miss-named Kate kedit in my previous post. I mainly use gnome and forgot the KDE text editor name. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: view more or less?
Around 03:41pm on Sunday, April 05, 2009 (UK time), Garry T. Williams scrawled: On Friday 03 April 2009 04:00:45 Steve Searle wrote: round 03:18am on Friday, April 03, 2009 (UK time), Paul Ward scrawled: I was wanting to look at a file the other day and my colleague insisted I do not use less but view instead. [snip] Also you can't pipe into it, e.g you can't use view to do something like: $ dmesg | less Of course you can: $ dmesg|view - Vim: Reading from stdin... $ And then I get: Vim: Warning: Input is not from a terminal Vim: Error reading input, exiting... Vim: preserving files... Vim: Finished. -- (o www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message 16:49:41 up 2 days, 8:04, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.08, 0.03 pgppYIhzWkpNh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: jre-6u13-linux-x64-rpm ??
Mauriat wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: FC10-X86_64 / KDE I have the jre-6u13-linux-x64-rpm installed on my X86_64 box but can't get JRE plugin to show in Firefox, about:plugins What am I not doing right ?? # locate libjavaplugin /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 /usr/java/jre1.6.0_13/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_jni.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_jni.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin_jni.so /var/lib/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 Not sure if this helps, but when I installed JRE 1.6.0u12 on FC10, X86_64, I used 'libnpjp2.so' as the plugin in Firefox. -Mauriat Mauriat, Thank you, that fixed the problem. Got JRE working now. Did you install Adobe Reader, since it is 32 bit how you get it working as plugin for Firefox-x86_64 ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On 4/5/2009 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 13:47 +0200, Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? I think you shgould read the archives of this list over the last 6 months or so. Great suggestion! 8-) -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: jre-6u13-linux-x64-rpm ??
Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 07:48:56PM -0400, Jim wrote: FC10-X86_64 / KDE I have the jre-6u13-linux-x64-rpm installed on my X86_64 box but can't get JRE plugin to show in Firefox, about:plugins What am I not doing right ?? # locate libjavaplugin /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 /usr/java/jre1.6.0_13/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_jni.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_jni.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin_jni.so /var/lib/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 Slightly off topic: how do I get 32-bit JRE on F9 updated to the 6u13 version? Thanks. Go here and get the .bin/RPM https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/viewproductdetail-start?productref=jre-6u13-oth-...@cds-cds_developer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On 04/05/2009 12:01 PM, David wrote: I think you shgould read the archives of this list over the last 6 months or so. Great suggestion! 8-) Please read more than just the fedora archives - (kubuntu, Linus' own opinion, what the kde team are doing as well, and more). This topic is far wider than fedora and it will keep you busy for a long time catching up on eveything (;-) and understanding not only where things are (and were) but are going. Then decide for yourself if you want to switch today or not, or plan to switch back to kde at some point in the future. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:56:43 +0100 Paul Smith wrote: I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there something better? Depending on what I'm editing, I use either nedit or vim as my primary text editors. My wife used to use nedit as her primary editor, but recently switched over to gedit; I'm not entirely sure why. All three of these editors offer syntax highlighting. Well i had used almost all of them and in the end have found Geany to be the best for working with c/c++ projects. Its an IDE but its lean enough to be used as an editor. One thing i particularly like is creating/managing/loading tags is very simple. But if you happen to use a terminal to work then my choice would be vim/emacs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suspend fails using fglrx on F10 (Joonas Saraj?rvi)
Hello all, I have an old Dell D610 (R300) which was doing what I wanted (films, openarena, tv-out, suspend) with Fedora 10 until fglrx 9.2 (or was it 9.1?) arrived. Anyway 9.3 didn't help. Now suspend fails. Black screen if you try. The log file http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16312# after reboot, thinks it succeeded. Does anyone have it working? Do I have to unload fglrx manually? Thanks for any clues - its a major hassle for me. Bill While I can't help with debugging the situtation, I'd recommend switching to the free drivers, because 1) They are free software 2) They are really supported in Fedora 3) They should work on your hardware out-of-the-box 4) The next fgrlx release from AMD is going to drop support for R300-based Radeon cards. Hi Joonas, You are correct of course. But they are just too slow on my relatively old hardware, I cannot, for example, watch a film comfortably fir the radeon driver. But I did put in a bug report for the recent bugzilla day... Bill -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Wake-on-LAN
Has anyone experience with WOL under Fedora? If so, how exactly do you put the machine to sleep, and how exactly do you wake it up remotely? I recently acquired an HP ML110 server (G5 Xeon 3065). This is said to have Wake-on-LAN capability, but when I suspend it to RAM I do not seem able to wake it remotely. Should one (or can one) suspend to disk for this purpose? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Any tips on Asus PC eee 1000HE netbook?
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:36:49 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I've just acquired one of the above beasties. The thing comes with XP, so I'm interested in installing a dual-boot system with Fedora. AFAIK the 900 and 901 models are known to work, but the 1000HE is fairly new. I wondered if people who've already done this can warn me of potential pitfalls. You can find trainloads of info at http://forum.eeeuser.com/ index.php -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ToDo,notes,planning sw
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:26:28 +0200 David Hláčik wrote: I am looking for an easy interesting program for gnome for making notes , basic planning. Like ToDo per day with quick reminder (just optional). Depending on how much and how fancy you want it to be, either kalarm (which works fine on Gnome, I use it daily) and/or tkremind will probably do what you want. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
Timothy Murphy wrote: Has anyone experience with WOL under Fedora? If so, how exactly do you put the machine to sleep, and how exactly do you wake it up remotely? I recently acquired an HP ML110 server (G5 Xeon 3065). This is said to have Wake-on-LAN capability, but when I suspend it to RAM I do not seem able to wake it remotely. Should one (or can one) suspend to disk for this purpose? The OS doesn't need any support for WOL, all the settings are done in the BIOS. Sometimes it's a setting that only says low power mode - when it's enabled, no power is sent to the network card while the computer is asleep, so no wakeup is possible. A simple way to check is to look at the NIC while your computer is in sleep - the ethernet connection light(s) should be on -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:59:57 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: Has anyone experience with WOL under Fedora? If so, how exactly do you put the machine to sleep, and how exactly do you wake it up remotely? I've never used it to wake from sleep, but I've found it works fine to power up the system after a shutdown, with one limitation: Absolutely no NIC I've ever used that claimed WOL support has actually worked except for linksys brand NICs. I have no idea what is different about linksys and all the others. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Any tips on Asus PC eee 1000HE netbook?
I bought one a while ago, maybe a month. I tried Debian's distro for eee's, worked fine, but the wireless was flaky using a linksys wireless. i did have to run a more current kernel. my only issue was the wireless card, currently works, but sometimes takes some encouragement-- gary. maybe try fc10 with the latest kernel. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: I've just acquired one of the above beasties. The thing comes with XP, so I'm interested in installing a dual-boot system with Fedora. AFAIK the 900 and 901 models are known to work, but the 1000HE is fairly new. I wondered if people who've already done this can warn me of potential pitfalls. All advice gratefully accepted. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flashplayer for Fedora10-X86_64
You are right, I had in mind nspluginwrapper :). I don't know why I wrote ndiswrapper. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 20:41, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: On 04/01/2009 05:40 PM, Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote: 1) Remove previous versions yum remove libflashsupport nspluginwrapper.i386 flash\* mozilla-plugin-config -r 2) Download and copy the flashplayer in the mozilla plugins folder curl http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz | tar -C /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ -xzf - 3) Restart ndiswrapper mozilla-plugin-config -i 4) Restart firefox Why Restart ndiswrapper. Ndiswrapper is used for non-stanrdard NIC modules, such as broadcom, and not for Firefox. Are you talking about //nspluginwrapper? ///nspluginwrapper /is only use to wrap 32-bit plugins for 64-bit browsers. / / -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Any tips on Asus PC eee 1000HE netbook?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I've just acquired one of the above beasties. The thing comes with XP, so I'm interested in installing a dual-boot system with Fedora. AFAIK the 900 and 901 models are known to work, but the 1000HE is fairly new. I wondered if people who've already done this can warn me of potential pitfalls. All advice gratefully accepted. poc As of kernel-2.27 in Fedora 10 , the Asus 1000 Sd version all the drivers are available . Had no problems of installing. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 10:29:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Has anyone experience with WOL under Fedora? If so, how exactly do you put the machine to sleep, and how exactly do you wake it up remotely? I recently acquired an HP ML110 server (G5 Xeon 3065). This is said to have Wake-on-LAN capability, but when I suspend it to RAM I do not seem able to wake it remotely. Should one (or can one) suspend to disk for this purpose? The OS doesn't need any support for WOL, all the settings are done in the BIOS. Sometimes it's a setting that only says low power mode - when it's enabled, no power is sent to the network card while the computer is asleep, so no wakeup is possible. A simple way to check is to look at the NIC while your computer is in sleep - the ethernet connection light(s) should be on Two very knowledgeable people unknown to each other have said that there was a U.S. law passed in the 1990's that require all computers to contain circuitry that permits the pc to be undetectedly accessed remotely via network connections. One of them specifically mentioned HP computers in this regard. Does anyone at all have any verifiable info confirming this allegation? (I know this sounds really paranoid and conspiratorial. Sorry about that.) Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gimp Gap?
Hi Dan I have found patch at Suse forum. Hope it helps, works for me ;-) If you're not familiar with _diff_ and _patch_ the simpliest way to fix it, is: find file gap/gab_dbbrowser_utils.c backup it! (restore in case of problems) open it find procedure called gimp_proc_view_new (begins at 156 line) delete whole procedure (ends at line 335) save than run _make_ again :-) this is link to the Suse fix http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2008-10/msg00836.html [1] Regards Slezi Links: -- [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2008-10/msg00836.html -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=336497topic_id=65646forum=10#forumpost336497 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmas...@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame slez...@gmail.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Nsplugwrapper-X86_64 ??
FC10-X86_64 / KDE Trying to install AdobeReader 32bit , into Firefox-x86_64. I understand that you have to have the 32bit nspluginwrapper to get it to work. I used yum to install the 32 bit version of nspluginwrapper, the 64 bit is already installed. But when i do a , locate nspluginwrapper , it only shows the /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper is installed . What happen to the 32 bit version in /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper. Even if I do a rpm -qa nspluginwrapper it only shows nspluginwrapper-x86_64 installed, What gives ? , I can't install both i386, x86_64 at the same time ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
If you have used the Windows for any length of time, defrag first. OT, but I haven't used my Windoze installation in 9 months (not even booted in it) and when I did a few days ago, the HDD was a mess :S it automagically managed to fragment. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 locked up while installing dl'd updates
On Sunday 05 April 2009 17:15, Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 17:10 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: First I must say that the F10 freezup, was not F10's fault, but a continuing problem I have with my Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, as it happens with other distros. Back to the plot. While the updates on F10 were installing, the machine decided to freeze. No keyboard, no mouse, no nothing, except a static image on KDE, like a screenshot. I had no alternative, but to press the reboot button. When I've had this happen on Debian installs, I run apt-get dist-upgrade, and apt-get complains, telling me to run, dpkg-reconfigure -a. This fixes the problem with packages that were partially installed when the machine froze up, then running apt-get dist-upgrade again, the remaining packages are installed. When F10 rebooted, I ran apt-get dist-upgrade (I use apt on Fedora), but apt-get complained about dependency problems due to duplicate packages on the system. Apt-get gave the following errors. E: Transaction set check failed E: Handler silently failed I tried various suggestions from apt-get, like, apt-get --fix-broken install, with no success. After a serious session of rpm -e on the various packages that had duplicates, some 3hrs later, I had reduced the list of problem packages to zero, and ran apt-get dist-upgrade again, which now continued with installing the remaining packages. The question is, is there some command I could have used on Fedora, similar to the Debian, dpkg-reconfigure -a, which is able to resolve problems with partially installed packages, when you get a power out, or in my case, the machine decides to freeze up, while installing the updates. I had a good look in the man page for rpm, but couldn't see anything there that might help, but there may be other commands not in the man page of course. As usual, thanks for any suggestions. yum install yum-tools package-cleanup --help Craig Hi Craig. As you see from the above, I'm using apt on Fedora. That said though, I will install the package you suggest. Now I'm on dialup, and the problem I had where the machine froze up, was after downloading over 540MB of packages using apt-get. Last time I updated was 20090315, and the latest, where I had the problem 20090404. The difference between apt, and yum, is where they put the downloaded packages. Apt puts them in /var/cache/apt/archives. Packages from all the repos are placed here. Yum splits the repos up, and puts the packages for the different repos in separate directories. So for example the yum updates are in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages. I've tried the GUI way of moving the packages from apt to yum, but means renaming yum directories temporarily, so as to be able to copy and paste from /var/cache/apt/archives to /var/cache/yum/updates/packages (packages temporarily renamed to archives) There has to be an easier way than that on the CLI. How do I copy the files in /var/cache/apt/archives to /var/cache/yum/updates/packages? Nigel. Sorry, this has been a pain in the backside for the last 2 days. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On Sunday 05 April 2009 09:19:34 Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:47:20 Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? I think that most of us are fed up with this kind of trolling. +1 for fed up with this kind of trolling -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nsplugwrapper-X86_64 ??
Le 05/04/2009 20:15, Jim a écrit : FC10-X86_64 / KDE nspluginwrapper-x86_64 installed, What gives ? , I can't install both i386, x86_64 at the same time ? Yes, you can. On another way : have you try the new 64 bits flash plugin ? http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html Works quite well. + -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems
John wrote: It was for sure a CD not a DVD. Then it was certainly not the installer DVD. Most likely it was a live CD. (And yes, those are installable. The default downloads on the current download page are live CDs.) GCC is only included on the DVD. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nsplugwrapper-X86_64 ??
Remi Collet wrote: Le 05/04/2009 20:15, Jim a écrit : FC10-X86_64 / KDE nspluginwrapper-x86_64 installed, What gives ? , I can't install both i386, x86_64 at the same time ? Yes, you can. On another way : have you try the new 64 bits flash plugin ? http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html Works quite well. + I have both the 64 bit Flashplugin and JRE-Plugin working I just need to get the 32 bit AdobeReader-plugin installed. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flashplayer for Fedora10-X86_64
2009/4/5 Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org: snip Why Restart ndiswrapper. Ndiswrapper is used for non-stanrdard NIC modules, such as broadcom, and not for Firefox. Are you talking about //nspluginwrapper? ///nspluginwrapper /is only use to wrap 32-bit plugins for 64-bit browsers. / AFAIK, ndiswrapper also wraps 32 bit plugins for 32 bit browsers. In fact I think it wraps all plugins whether they need to be wrapped or not. I know this because I own a (very definitely) 32bit eeePC 701, which was running ndiswrapper to run flash. It was using a heck of a lot of CPU time (precious on this machine!) to wrap that plugin, such that I couldn't watch youtube videos properly. Uninstalling ndiswrapper fixed that. Not sure if ndiswrapper is default in a 32bit Fedora install though, mine was from a kickstart which might just have ndiswrapper in the %packages section. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: As I am sure many people on this list can attest, looks are not always important to a woman. Uh, my remark wasn't supposed to be sexist. Many men also prefer software which doesn't look like crap. :-) Personally, I want my software to use my common system theme (which is Bluecurve - yeah, I know that's a bit old-school too ;-) ), Motif/lesstif doesn't do that. And the more modern the theme you use, the more Motif apps look out of place. Nedit is just obsolete. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Sunday 05 April 2009 15:32:10 Kevin Kofler wrote: Andras Simon wrote: There may be reasons for not liking vi or emacs, but their being useless is certainly not one of them. They're useless compared to editors which you can just start to use with no learning curve. Kevin Kofler The editors which have no learning curve, proportionally have no efficiency. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
nvidia driver, kmod-nvidia-PAE question
Dear fellow Fedora users, I was having trouble playing DVD's with Fedora on a Quad Core machine, and I decided to install the nvidia driver from rpmfusion and it has cured the problem :), thanks to those guys for the work they do. Now I decide to update the kernel to a newer one, will I have to # yum install kmod-nvidia-PAE again versus the new kernel, or will the update to the new kernel automagcially fix the driver against the new kernel. I really don't understand the kmod and/or dkms part of the drivers. I have seen similar things for the modems like the 11c11040 drivers. When I update to a new kernel, I manually update the modem drivers, but apparently when one uses the dkms/kmod code the work is done automagically. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 locked up while installing dl'd updates
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 20:07 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 17:15, Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 17:10 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: First I must say that the F10 freezup, was not F10's fault, but a continuing problem I have with my Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, as it happens with other distros. Back to the plot. While the updates on F10 were installing, the machine decided to freeze. No keyboard, no mouse, no nothing, except a static image on KDE, like a screenshot. I had no alternative, but to press the reboot button. When I've had this happen on Debian installs, I run apt-get dist-upgrade, and apt-get complains, telling me to run, dpkg-reconfigure -a. This fixes the problem with packages that were partially installed when the machine froze up, then running apt-get dist-upgrade again, the remaining packages are installed. When F10 rebooted, I ran apt-get dist-upgrade (I use apt on Fedora), but apt-get complained about dependency problems due to duplicate packages on the system. Apt-get gave the following errors. E: Transaction set check failed E: Handler silently failed I tried various suggestions from apt-get, like, apt-get --fix-broken install, with no success. After a serious session of rpm -e on the various packages that had duplicates, some 3hrs later, I had reduced the list of problem packages to zero, and ran apt-get dist-upgrade again, which now continued with installing the remaining packages. The question is, is there some command I could have used on Fedora, similar to the Debian, dpkg-reconfigure -a, which is able to resolve problems with partially installed packages, when you get a power out, or in my case, the machine decides to freeze up, while installing the updates. I had a good look in the man page for rpm, but couldn't see anything there that might help, but there may be other commands not in the man page of course. As usual, thanks for any suggestions. yum install yum-tools package-cleanup --help Craig Hi Craig. As you see from the above, I'm using apt on Fedora. That said though, I will install the package you suggest. Now I'm on dialup, and the problem I had where the machine froze up, was after downloading over 540MB of packages using apt-get. Last time I updated was 20090315, and the latest, where I had the problem 20090404. The difference between apt, and yum, is where they put the downloaded packages. Apt puts them in /var/cache/apt/archives. Packages from all the repos are placed here. Yum splits the repos up, and puts the packages for the different repos in separate directories. So for example the yum updates are in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages. I've tried the GUI way of moving the packages from apt to yum, but means renaming yum directories temporarily, so as to be able to copy and paste from /var/cache/apt/archives to /var/cache/yum/updates/packages (packages temporarily renamed to archives) There has to be an easier way than that on the CLI. How do I copy the files in /var/cache/apt/archives to /var/cache/yum/updates/packages? Nigel. Sorry, this has been a pain in the backside for the last 2 days. I am not sure why you are wanting to move packages from apt to yum locations but I suppose you have a reason for this. My response was merely an answer to your question about cleaning up after an aborted install and really has little to do with installing/updating via yum except that it will compare what's installed to what's currently available in repositories (i.e. --orphans). Perhaps you want to install and use the tool I suggested. Most of those packages downloaded via apt are likely to go into /var/cache/yum/updates/packages but of course that would likely depend upon which repositories you are using beyond the standard fedora repositories and what you have installed from these other repositories. I vaguely recollect someone providing an rpm command to list which repository packages came from on the list a few weeks back but I didn't save it. I'm still not sure why you want to move from apt to yum at this point though. If you just want to copy the files... cp -ar /var/cache/apt/archives/*rpm /var/cache/yum/updates/packages Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
2009/4/4 Armin amor...@fedoraproject.org: On Sunday 05 April 2009 09:19:34 Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:47:20 Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? I think that most of us are fed up with this kind of trolling. +1 for fed up with this kind of trolling -1 Redundant -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 06:30 -0700, Craig White wrote: Then again, a 4 Gb HD doesn't leave much space if your going to share Win2K with Linux. I was there with my Sony C1X, Win2K bit the dust, defrag problem easily solved. Typing error, on my behalf. I omitted the word partition. The drive's about 8 gigs, split in half (now). -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
Timothy Murphy wrote: Has anyone experience with WOL under Fedora? If so, how exactly do you put the machine to sleep, and how exactly do you wake it up remotely? I recently acquired an HP ML110 server (G5 Xeon 3065). This is said to have Wake-on-LAN capability, but when I suspend it to RAM I do not seem able to wake it remotely. Should one (or can one) suspend to disk for this purpose? Wake On LAN should actually be able to wake a system up from power off state, so it should reasonably work for suspended systems too. As a first thing, the NIC LED (or the LED on the ethernet switch) should be on; it will be on even when the system is switched off, if WOL is active. Then WOL has to be enabled. You can trust the BIOS or, better, run ethtool eth0 and you will get something like Supports Wake-on: pumbag Wake-on: g which (according to the man page) means WOL on my machine will respond only on a specific kind of packet. Last step is sending a proper WOL packet to the machine you want to wake up (use wol or wakelan). Be sure to use the correct interface on the waking machine and also try to write the MAC address with reversed bytes (that is try 11:22:33:44:55:66 and 66:55:44:33:22:11); don't ask me why, but I have two machines where only the inverted MAC works. Best regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum issues..
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:21:43 +0200 From: Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Yum issues.. To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 20090404082143.64093...@faldor.intranet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:26:00 -0700 (PDT), dco...@efn.org wrote: [r...@boatbuyer images]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo [fedora] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch failovermethod=priority baseurl=ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releas es/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpm #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/rele ases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/ In above baseurl you did something that won't work. The baseurl= parameter must point to a location, which contains a repodata directory. Yum expects to find the repository metadata files in there and appends repodata/repomd.xml to the baseurl path prior to trying to download the repository index file. Yes, repomd.xml was giving an error. Do you have a reliable baseurl or the contents of a sample file? For Yum-based distribution upgrades (e.g. from FC5 to F10) you need to adjust all relevant baseurl parameters to point to valid locations for the target distribution. Typically one upgrades the fedora-release manually, so one can keep pristine repository definition files and rely on the $releasever variable to expand to 10 automatically. Thank you for pointing this out. Pristine sounds like a file that works. Each piece of information I relish. Get enough pieces, wa-lah, it's all together...and yum is working again. David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
Konstantin Svist wrote: Has anyone experience with WOL under Fedora? If so, how exactly do you put the machine to sleep, and how exactly do you wake it up remotely? I recently acquired an HP ML110 server (G5 Xeon 3065). This is said to have Wake-on-LAN capability, but when I suspend it to RAM I do not seem able to wake it remotely. Should one (or can one) suspend to disk for this purpose? The OS doesn't need any support for WOL, all the settings are done in the BIOS. Sometimes it's a setting that only says low power mode - when it's enabled, no power is sent to the network card while the computer is asleep, so no wakeup is possible. A simple way to check is to look at the NIC while your computer is in sleep - the ethernet connection light(s) should be on Thanks for the response. Firstly, I have Wake on LAN enabled in the BIOS. Secondly, rather to my surprise the ethernet light goes off when I Hibernate (I should confess at this point that I am running Centos-5.3 on this machine, but thought that I was more likely to get a helpful response on the Fedora list!) but stays on when I shutdown. In neither case does ping or (attempted) ssh have any effect. How exactly is one meant to wake from LAN. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
Dave Feustel wrote: Two very knowledgeable people unknown to each other have said that there was a U.S. law passed in the 1990's that require all computers to contain circuitry that permits the pc to be undetectedly accessed remotely via network connections. One of them specifically mentioned HP computers in this regard. Does anyone at all have any verifiable info confirming this allegation? I hope this is true! If the FBI can get into my HP remotely then hopefully so can I. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum issues..
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:36:13 -0700 From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com Subject: Re: Yum issues.. To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1238866573.5411.19.ca...@lin-workstation.azapple.com Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 10:20 -0700, dco...@efn.org wrote: What about messagebus? Do I need this one? Hangs like a kite in a steady wind. I get a 'dbus' message complaining about the two being in cohoots with each other, and blaming me for it all. Kerberos off SMB Auth off sure, leave Cache User Infomration on if you want messagebus, I'd probably leave on Craig Craig, Messagebus a bear, Xserver fails and dbus spits out the messages. any ideas? David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Safely remove USB stick
On Sunday 05 April 2009 19:30:11 Kevin Kofler wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 1) As far as I can see, you can't remount the drive from the empty window. You have to click on the notifier and select the mount option. This then opens a *second* window. The first window adds no funcionality whatever. Try reloading it (press F5). I'm inclined to agree that it should not open another instance of dolphin when one is already open. Maybe it's time for a bug report, Patrick? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum issues..
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:11:07 +0200 From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: Yum issues.. To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: gr8ltr$fo...@ger.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Craig White wrote: Using yum to upgrade from Fedora 5 to Fedora 9 or Fedora 10 might have been possible while you had interim releases available in repositories (i.e. Fedora 6, 7, 8) but I think they have all been removed. Thus one would have to make it in a very big leap which would require luck, much knowledge and my expectations of me being able to pull that off would be minimal. The old stuff should still be on the archive server. Kevin Kofler Thanks Kevin, I will look for it. David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde 4 with old layout
On Sunday 05 April 2009 13:34:43 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: After Some month of use, I really find it slow!! Some measurements have been done, and it does use a little more RAM, but not as much as you'd think from the change in speed. It seems that most of the problems are caused by video card drivers. KDE4 stresses some parts of the drivers that were little used or not at all used in KDE3. So much so, in fact, that NVidia agreed that several bugs had been identified from running KDE4, and they have made changes to their drivers because of that. Oh, no! Don't tell me you've actually had a vendor of closed source software actually listen to you and fix something. I've heard so many people say that can't happen :-) Whatever the problems with NVidia software, they did work with KDE on this one. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
2009/4/5 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: Thanks for the response. Firstly, I have Wake on LAN enabled in the BIOS. Secondly, rather to my surprise the ethernet light goes off when I Hibernate (I should confess at this point that I am running Centos-5.3 on this machine, but thought that I was more likely to get a helpful response on the Fedora list!) but stays on when I shutdown. In neither case does ping or (attempted) ssh have any effect. How exactly is one meant to wake from LAN. One uses Magic Packets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN To do this, first install a wol client on another machine to broadcast the wakeup: # yum -y install wol Then read about the options: http://linux.die.net/man/1/wol Then one wakes the target machine... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flashplayer for Fedora10-X86_64
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: AFAIK, ndiswrapper also wraps 32 bit plugins for 32 bit browsers. In fact I think it wraps all plugins whether they need to be wrapped or not. Again, that's nspluginwrapper, not ndiswrapper. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flashplayer for Fedora10-X86_64
2009/4/5 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Sharpe, Sam J wrote: AFAIK, ndiswrapper also wraps 32 bit plugins for 32 bit browsers. In fact I think it wraps all plugins whether they need to be wrapped or not. Again, that's nspluginwrapper, not ndiswrapper. Kevin Kofler ARRGHHH! Read what I mean, not what I write! -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel vs kernel-PAE? why yum install kernel does not install kernel-PAE automatically?
Kam Leo wrote: The short answer is you do not need PAE. Your 3GB is within the address range of the standard 32-bit kernel. Well, the non-PAE kernel can only address 3 GB of userspace memory, 1 GB is reserved for the kernel. He has slightly more than 3 GB, so PAE might be beneficial. Another reason to use PAE is that you get better protection about arbitrary code execution exploits from stack overflows if your CPU supports the NX bit (it can only be used with PAE or x86_64). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com sam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/4/5 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: Thanks for the response. Firstly, I have Wake on LAN enabled in the BIOS. Secondly, rather to my surprise the ethernet light goes off when I Hibernate (I should confess at this point that I am running Centos-5.3 on this machine, but thought that I was more likely to get a helpful response on the Fedora list!) but stays on when I shutdown. In neither case does ping or (attempted) ssh have any effect. How exactly is one meant to wake from LAN. One uses Magic Packets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN To do this, first install a wol client on another machine to broadcast the wakeup: # yum -y install wol Then read about the options: http://linux.die.net/man/1/wol Then one wakes the target machine... All my Intel mobos with onboard network can be waked up (no need to install anything, but net-tools): sudo /sbin/ether-wake ip-addr (wakes computer with ip-addr) Then, in /etc/ethers, I have the mac addresses associated to IP addresses: # see man ethers for syntax # andromeda XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX ip-addr Never tried with suspend or hibernate. Only when the computer power is off. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel vs kernel-PAE? why yum install kernel does not install kernel-PAE automatically?
Antonio Olivares wrote: CPU Model: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ6600 @ 2.40GHz That's a 64-bit CPU, you should be running 64-bit Fedora rather than 32-bit Fedora on it. I also want to know if I get nvidia driver, how does it fare with PAE kernels? As far as I know no better or no worse than with non-PAE kernels, you just need to make sure you use the -PAE variant of the kmod. [VO_XV] It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. [VO_XV] Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read [VO_XV] DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! [VO_XV] See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. [VO_XV] Try -vo x11. .., I have asked for a bit of help and they recommend that I get nvidia driver, I have not used nvidia drivers since Fedora Core 4, but I got good performance back then might help now? You may want to try the nouveau driver, it has some 2D acceleration support. nouveau will replace nv as the default for NVidia hardware in Fedora 11. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
Roberto Ragusa wrote: Thanks very much. Wake On LAN should actually be able to wake a system up from power off state, so it should reasonably work for suspended systems too. As a first thing, the NIC LED (or the LED on the ethernet switch) should be on; it will be on even when the system is switched off, if WOL is active. Surprisingly, it is on when I shutdown -h the machine, but off when I set the machine to hibernate. Then WOL has to be enabled. You can trust the BIOS or, better, run ethtool eth0 and you will get something like Supports Wake-on: pumbag Wake-on: g I had forgotten about ethtool. I do indeed get Wake-on: g which I see means Wake on MagicPacket. So I must see if and hopefully how I can send the machine a MagicPacket. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bouts of Extreme System Slug
Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: The more applications I am running, the more noticeable these phases of sluggishness become, more you run, more you load. when you close an app, it does not clear out immediately. it has to flush buffers and other house cleaning. what size swap do you have? How can I diagnose what causes the sluggishness? 1st, run 'man top' to see what it is telling you. then run 'top'. when you see what is using high amount of '%cpu' and '%mem', disable them to see if you are still sluggish. because you are running firefox, clean up history that you do not need. also, if you have a lot of add-ons, disable what you are not using. firefox and thunderbird are both memory hogs. with add-ons, they get worse. this is reason to disable what you are not always using. also, 'man nice'. changing levels of less important may help. what services are running? what services can you disable? to run fsck and badblocks, back system up, use a live cd to run checks. hth. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
strange time zone setting
Suddenly, hardware time on my laptop (in the BIOS) has to be set to UTC time for the time in GNOME can be in CDT (US) time. I don't know how this happened or how to fix it. I don't see how one can set the time zone for the BIOS so it is all very myterious. Any enlightenment out there? -- === Just think of a computer as hardware you can program. -- Nigel de la Tierre === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wake-on-LAN
* Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net [20090405 22:46]: Roberto Ragusa wrote: Thanks very much. Wake On LAN should actually be able to wake a system up from power off state, so it should reasonably work for suspended systems too. As a first thing, the NIC LED (or the LED on the ethernet switch) should be on; it will be on even when the system is switched off, if WOL is active. Surprisingly, it is on when I shutdown -h the machine, but off when I set the machine to hibernate. That's because the drivers deal with ACPI states S3 and S4 different to S5. You *can* wake the system up from S3/S4, but you need to issue a command first. # echo -n LAN /proc/acpi/wakeup Once you have done this, then you can suspend/hibernate and WOL the system. The patch for this should be in CentOS 5.3. Also, different drivers may behave differently in this respect. I only know of e1000/e1000e behaving correctly with this as I've not tested it on other hardware. Then WOL has to be enabled. You can trust the BIOS or, better, run ethtool eth0 and you will get something like Supports Wake-on: pumbag Wake-on: g I had forgotten about ethtool. I do indeed get Wake-on: g which I see means Wake on MagicPacket. So I must see if and hopefully how I can send the machine a MagicPacket. ether-wake MAC is what I used when I did all the testing on this. It's a tool that generates the exact packet needed. -- Anders Rayner-Karlsson and...@trudheim.co.uk All-Round Linux Tinkerer, RHCE and PITA DeLuxe -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel vs kernel-PAE? why yum install kernel does not install kernel-PAE automatically?
--- On Sun, 4/5/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: kernel vs kernel-PAE? why yum install kernel does not install kernel-PAE automatically? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 1:28 PM Antonio Olivares wrote: CPU Model: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ6600 @ 2.40GHz That's a 64-bit CPU, you should be running 64-bit Fedora rather than 32-bit Fedora on it. Did not know that :(, thought that only regular x86_32 instead of x86_64 was what I needed. On other machines at home which have AMD 64 processor, I installed the x86_64 versions of Fedora either Fedora 10 or rawhide. I also want to know if I get nvidia driver, how does it fare with PAE kernels? As far as I know no better or no worse than with non-PAE kernels, you just need to make sure you use the -PAE variant of the kmod. [VO_XV] It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. [VO_XV] Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read [VO_XV] DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! [VO_XV] See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. [VO_XV] Try -vo x11. .., I have asked for a bit of help and they recommend that I get nvidia driver, I have not used nvidia drivers since Fedora Core 4, but I got good performance back then might help now? You may want to try the nouveau driver, it has some 2D acceleration support. nouveau will replace nv as the default for NVidia hardware in Fedora 11. nouveau driver was the default but it did not cut it, mplayer would complain that the machine was too slow to play it :(, and I also got a kernel panic :( to top that off. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I have installed the nvidia driver via rpmfusion and all my video troubles are gone, no more CPU problems. I have installed the PAE kernel and all is well. Thanks to you and Kam for your advice. All is well. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
