Re: Suspend fails using fglrx on F10

[Bill Murray]

>
>
> William Murray wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I have an old Dell D610 (R300) which was doing
> > what I wanted (films, openarena, tv-out, suspend) with Fedora
> > 10 until fglrx 9.2 (or was it 9.1?) arrived. Anyway 9.3 didn't help.
> >
> > Now suspend fails. Black screen if you try. The log file
> > 
> > after reboot, thinks it succeeded. Does anyone have it working?
> > Do I have to unload fglrx manually?
> > Thanks for any clues - its a major hassle for me.
> > Bill
>
> Sorry, I'm afraid I'm of no help, but 9.3-1 works just fine for me on F9
> with an M56P (Radeon Mobility X1600)
>
> Are you sure its not something else specific to F10 instead of fglrx?
>
> --
> Thanks Kevin,

If I revert to vesa it all works fine. Doesn't prove it was
fglrx's
fault. But anyway: 9.3-2 fixes it for me!
   Bill

>
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Re: Suspend fails using fglrx on F10

[suvayu ali]

2009/4/5 William Murray :
> Hello all,
> I have an old Dell D610 (R300) which was doing
> what I wanted (films, openarena, tv-out, suspend) with Fedora
> 10 until fglrx 9.2 (or was it 9.1?) arrived. Anyway 9.3 didn't help.
>
> Now suspend fails. Black screen if you try. The log file
> 
> after reboot, thinks it succeeded. Does anyone have it working?
> Do I have to unload fglrx manually?
> Thanks for any clues - its a major hassle for me.

not sure, but this might be relevant.
http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-users/2009-April/000330.html

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Emacs 23 for Fedora?

[Alex Bennee]

I've just seen an editor discussion kick of again and it reminded me
of something myself. Does anyone provide an emacs23 snapshot
repository for Fedora 10. All the ones mentioned on the wiki seem to
be quite old.

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Re: Emacs 23 for Fedora?

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Alex Bennee
 wrote:
| Does anyone provide an emacs23 snapshot
| repository for Fedora 10.
\--

I took the emacs23 version from CVS, and built it from source. It
required 'nmh' to be installed though:

  sudo yum install nmh
  cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonym...@cvs.savannah.gnu.org:/sources/emacs co
-r emacs-unicode-2 emacs
  cvs update -A
  ./configure
  make

I can now use GTK+ fonts within Emacs.

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Re: Emacs 23 for Fedora?

[Carl D. Roth]

On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:25:05 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Alex Bennee
>  wrote:
> | Does anyone provide an emacs23 snapshot | repository for Fedora 10.
> \--
> 
> I took the emacs23 version from CVS, and built it from source. It
> required 'nmh' to be installed though:
> 
>   sudo yum install nmh
>   cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonym...@cvs.savannah.gnu.org:/sources/emacs co
> -r emacs-unicode-2 emacs
>   cvs update -A
>   ./configure
>   make
> 
> I can now use GTK+ fonts within Emacs.
> 

AFAIK the latest Emacs23 (23.0.92.1 at last count) is in the emacs 
mainline (no branch required).  You don't need nmh, but you probably need 
m17n-lib-devel to build the latest freetype bits.

I built it with a hacked-up spec based on the emacs22 SRPM from rawhide.  
Both emacs22 and emacs23 sometimes suffer from BUG493141.

C

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Re: Yum nit-pick !

[Richard Hughes]

On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:20 -0700, suvayu ali wrote:
> One of the reasons I don't use packagekit either is I can't see the
> download size and progress if I want to. (other than a windows-like
> bar) What seems strange to me is, why is this feature available with
> yum but not with packagekit?

The new gnome-packagekit update viewer has this information. We're be
adding the size to add/remove software too soon.

Richard.


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Re: Yum nit-pick !

[Richard Hughes]

On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 17:31 -0400, William Case wrote:
> I haven't seen a re-boot warning yet even for the latest kernel
> ( 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.x86_64) which was downloaded using the
> PackageKit icon in my notification area.  Does that mean I didn't have
> to re-boot ???

We only get the reboot-required data when updates go out through bohdi,
and we get metadata about an update. For rawhide, there's no way of
packagers saying "this update requires a reboot". What PackageKit can do
is detect if you are using an executable that has been updated, and then
tells you that a session restart is required, i.e. to log off and then
back in.

This should just all work with the F11 release.

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OT - advice on async I/O pls

[T. Horsnell]

Apologies for this off-topic post. Pls point me elsewhere if
there's a more suitable list.

I'm using sendto and rcvfrom to handle a UDP connection to a
remote host. I send a msg using sendto, and then wait for
a reply using recvfrom, but I would like to be able to rapidly
timeout the rcvfrom if the remote host is down.

The async I/O set of commands aio_* offer what looks like
the perfect solution, but they require that I use aio_read
and aio_write (equivalent to read(2) and write(2) ) rather
than sendto/recvfrom.

I'd rather not sit in a loop waiting for a reply with
non-blocking I/O enabled. I'd much prefer to use blocking
I/O and have the recvfom come back to me either when the
input has completed, or it has timed out.

Any suggestions how I might achieve this?

Cheers,
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Re: OT - advice on async I/O pls

[Siddhesh Poyarekar]

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:29 +0100, T. Horsnell wrote:
> I'm using sendto and rcvfrom to handle a UDP connection to a
> remote host. I send a msg using sendto, and then wait for
> a reply using recvfrom, but I would like to be able to rapidly
> timeout the rcvfrom if the remote host is down.
> 
> The async I/O set of commands aio_* offer what looks like
> the perfect solution, but they require that I use aio_read
> and aio_write (equivalent to read(2) and write(2) ) rather
> than sendto/recvfrom.
> 
> I'd rather not sit in a loop waiting for a reply with
> non-blocking I/O enabled. I'd much prefer to use blocking
> I/O and have the recvfom come back to me either when the
> input has completed, or it has timed out.
> 

Check out GIOChannels in glib2:

http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/stable/glib-IO-Channels.html

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System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[suvayu ali]

Hi all,
The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?

$ date
Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009

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Request for Sponsorship..

[Rohit Gupta]

We are forming a 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' in our college. The
Final Details can be found here:
http://groups.google.co.in/group/kgeclug/browse_thread/thread/43d14f78c94f77c4

We have a 'free media program' for the members of 'GNU/Linux User
Group of KGEC'.
Our group is not receiving any funds for its functioning from the
college. So, we have applied one time membership fees and the head of
this group from college. If the group fund have less funds, it means
less overall activity like organizing workshops.
We also have a inauguration + FOSS Event day on 18th April 2009. It
also has a FAD ie, Fedora Workshop.
link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/KGEC_LUG

So, we request fedora to sponsor our FAD and the 'Free media Program'
of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'.
Things we Request:
1)   100 Fedora 10 CDs and/or DVDs.
2)   Goodies like stikers and badges.
3)   Some Fedora fliers to be given to participants.

Regards:
Rohit Gupta
Fedora Ambassador, Secretary
'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rohit01

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Re: thoughts on "how to write a linux virus in 5 easy steps"

[Globe Trotter]

--- On Sun, 4/5/09, Les  wrote:

> From: Les 
> Subject: Re: thoughts on "how to write a linux virus in 5 easy steps"
> To: itsme_...@yahoo.com, "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for 
> using Fedora." 
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 5:16 AM
> On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 18:49 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > The following article has created quite some
> discussion, so I wanted to hear what all the real experts
> (here) thought about it.
> > 
> >  http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229
> > 
> > The article raises quite a few good points. Whether
> they have merit, and whether remedies are in-built is what I
> am wondering.
> > 
> This is just about the lamest article on any form of
> programming that I
> have ever read. 
> His code is not self replicating (but it might be able to
> load something
> that is), it requires misdirection and operator action, and
> is a Trojan.
> In addition, he wrote it apparently to a standing challenge
> that
> requires writing a file to /etc, which he did not do, nor
> did he show
> even "high level pseudo code" for that operation.
> 
> I won't add further flames here, but come on, this is
> just flame bait,
> and I bit... but don't expect further discussion from
> me.
> 
> Regards,
> Les H
> 

Hi,

Thanks for yours! I certainly did not post the article expecting a flamewar. I 
just wanted some thoughts on it: I am a cent percent linux (read Fedora) user 
and I certainly would not want linux to get a bad name. However, my thinking is 
that if deficiencies creep in or if anything can be done which can only improve 
linux, we should at least be aware and if possible address it. 

I thank the other respondents who have also commented.

There is however, merit in something that he does not explicitly say: the 
incorporation of GUI in a big way has swept away many of the warnings/error 
messages that used to happen when we started applications by running the binary 
(%firefox, eg) on a terminal. I believe that was useful information, even 
though the argument can be made that it was too much! Perhaps we can have these 
notices flying back in the bg of the desktop: I certainly would use it as an 
option.

Best wishes,
T


  

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Re: Emacs 23 for Fedora?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:10:36PM +0100, Alex Bennee wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Carl D. Roth :
> > On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:25:05 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Alex Bennee
> >>  wrote:
> >> | Does anyone provide an emacs23 snapshot | repository for Fedora 10.
> >> \--
> >>
> >> I took the emacs23 version from CVS, and built it from source. It
> >> required 'nmh' to be installed though:
> 
> I was hoping to find a binary repo as building stuff on netbooks takes
> a while. I shall give it a go though.
> 
> > AFAIK the latest Emacs23 (23.0.92.1 at last count) is in the emacs
> > mainline (no branch required).  You don't need nmh, but you probably need
> > m17n-lib-devel to build the latest freetype bits.
> >
> > I built it with a hacked-up spec based on the emacs22 SRPM from
> > rawhide.
> 
> Any chance of posting the spec so I can make some proper RPMs rather
> than overriding with a /usr/local install.

I use Brad Walker's repo:
http://rpm.bradmwalker.com/

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Re: Emacs 23 for Fedora?

[Alex Bennee]

2009/4/6 Carl D. Roth :
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:25:05 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Alex Bennee
>>  wrote:
>> | Does anyone provide an emacs23 snapshot | repository for Fedora 10.
>> \--
>>
>> I took the emacs23 version from CVS, and built it from source. It
>> required 'nmh' to be installed though:

I was hoping to find a binary repo as building stuff on netbooks takes
a while. I shall give it a go though.

> AFAIK the latest Emacs23 (23.0.92.1 at last count) is in the emacs
> mainline (no branch required).  You don't need nmh, but you probably need
> m17n-lib-devel to build the latest freetype bits.
>
> I built it with a hacked-up spec based on the emacs22 SRPM from
> rawhide.

Any chance of posting the spec so I can make some proper RPMs rather
than overriding with a /usr/local install.


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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Tim]

Shakthi Kannan:
>> Use id:3:default:
>> http://www.fedorafaq.org/basics/#textonly

Jonathan Ryshpan:
> I have (of course) tried that too.  Runlevel 1 should have the same
> effect as 3, only more so.

I'd agree with using 3 as a text-only default, rather than 1.  Single
mode has less security - you end up logging in as root without entering
any password.  Not sure how that affects any services you might be
running which don't normally run as root.


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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> 
> I have (of course) tried that too.  Runlevel 1 should have the same
> effect as 3, only more so.
> 
> jon
> 
> 
No really. You lose a lot of security. You also lose networking.
What are you trying to do that you want to start in run level 1?

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

suvayu ali wrote:
> Hi all,
> The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
> time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?
> 
> $ date
> Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009
> 
Is you hardware clock set to UTC or local time?

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Chris Tyler]

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 04:19 -0700, suvayu ali wrote:
> Hi all,
> The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
> time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?
> 
> $ date
> Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009
> 
> -- 
> Suvayu

Perhaps your system is set to keep time in UTC, and another system
(Linux distro, live disc, Windows) is set to to run the hardware clock
in local time, and bumped the time by 1 hour when you booted after the
daylight savings time switch?

>From the Gnome desktop, you can right-click on the clock in the panel
bar and select 'Adjust Date and Time'; KDE will provide similar
capability (though I can't confirm the steps at this moment). When you
shutdown your machine, it should save the system time to the hardware
clock. 

You can also set the time from the command line with the 'date' command
(see 'man date'), or get the time from a time server (once) with the
command 'rdate -s time.nist.gov' (US server, not responding from here
atm) or 'rdate -s time.nrc.ca' (Canadian server). Once the system
(software) clock is updated, you can then write the time to the hardware
clock with 'hwclock --systohc'.

Strong recommendation: turn on NTP (network time protocol) if your
network environment is appropriate (i.e., usually connected to the
internet and can initiate outbound connections to servers) -- your
system will then periodically contact time servers and try to keep your
local clock on-track. 'chkconfig ntpd on' should do the trick.

-Chris

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odd networking issue...

[Scott van Looy]

My network config is thus:

eth0 = x.x.x.210
eth0:1 = x.x.x.211

Up until the last kernel update it's all been fine (though I don't tend to 
reboot between kernel updates, so it might have been broken by something 
inbetween)


Now, eth0 comes up with eth0:1's IP and eth0:1 doesn't appear at all

ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 again gives me eth0:1's IP

system-config-network shows it to be correctly set up with the right IPs 
and stuff...


Any known issues? Anyone heard of anything similar? Very bizarre...

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RE: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems

[John]

Kevin,

I'm trying to download the DVD version (much larger likely to fail). If it
fails, I may try the bit torrent (another can of worms for a windows box to
install) or I may run to the book store to buy the Fedora 10 bible w/ DVD
included.  I think that is the DVD you are talking about.

Again, thank you for the help.  I believe you have diagnosed my problem
differently than I had.  You can't set the environment variables correctly
to
complile when there is no complete compile environment.

I'll post success if I get it (that is on the final NS-2 goal). It looks
like I have
at least a day of effort on this (waiting for the download and all).

Best Regards,

John

An apprentice comes to his master and says, "Master, I have just created
the next generation editor. It seamlessly handles text, audio, video, and
images. It integrates with all know development environments and is portable
across
all know hardware platforms and operating systems."

The master bonks the apprentice on the head and says, "You idiot, I don't
want to learn a new editor."

:)

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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 1:29 PM
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems


John wrote:
> It was for sure a CD not a DVD.

Then it was certainly not the installer DVD. Most likely it was a live CD.
(And yes, those are installable. The default downloads on the current
download page are live CDs.) GCC is only included on the DVD.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1800

[Peter Reed]

> Peter Reed wrote:
> > You have to use the Nvidia proprietary drivers for YUY2 overlay support.
> > None of the open source drivers have this.  Time to fire up Rpmfusion
> > repository.
>
> Uh, he has a Radeon HD according to lspci, so he isn't going to get very
> far with the nvidia driver...
>
> Kevin Kofler
Yes ,
I guess I should actually read the part I snip out! 
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Re: strange time zone setting

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 16:37 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > Suddenly, hardware time on my laptop (in the BIOS) has to be set to UTC
> > time for the time in GNOME can be in CDT (US) time.
> > 
> > I don't know how this happened or how to fix it. I don't see how one can
> > set the time zone for the BIOS so it is all very myterious.
> > 
> > Any enlightenment out there?
> > 
> Check /etc/sysconfig/clock and see what UTC is set to.
> 
> Mikkel
/etc/sysconfig/clock is set to America/Chicago
I fixed this by setting the hardware clock to localtime using hwclock
command. But I don't know how it got set to UTC in the first place. In
was not that way last week.

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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 23:15 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:23 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> > --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan
> >  wrote:
> > | I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts
> > with
> > | the X Window System running.  What am I missing?
> > |
> > | id:1:initdefault:
> > \--
> > 
> > Use id:3:default:
> > http://www.fedorafaq.org/basics/#textonly
> 
> I have (of course) tried that too.  Runlevel 1 should have the same
> effect as 3, only more so.
Not true. rl1 has only one user root. No passwd checking.
rl3 is a normal multi user mode without X.
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useradd with * in passwd field

[Sudarshan Soma]

Hi All,
I need to add a user who will have entry in the /etc/passwd file as
below,  where the passwd field is marked as *

myuser:*:12:23:guest:/:/bin/bash

I need to do this by using command useradd, but i am not able to find
easier way to do this by commands other than manually editing passwd
file.


The intention is to create a user with whcih login can never happen
Please suggest

Thanks and Regards,
Pavan

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Re: useradd with * in passwd field

[Chris Tyler]

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 19:37 +0530, Sudarshan Soma wrote:
> Hi All,
> I need to add a user who will have entry in the /etc/passwd file as
> below,  where the passwd field is marked as *
> 
> myuser:*:12:23:guest:/:/bin/bash
> 
> I need to do this by using command useradd, but i am not able to find
> easier way to do this by commands other than manually editing passwd
> file.
> 
> 
> The intention is to create a user with whcih login can never happen
> Please suggest

Hi Pavan,

First, you should in almost all cases have shadow password support
enabled, so the actual passwords will be in /etc/shadow not /etc/passwd.

Second, useradd will by default create an account which cannot be
accessed until a password is added (typically with the passwd command).
If you need to lock an account that has a password so that it cannot be
used for login, you can use "passwd -l username"; note that this
prepends an exclamation mark to the password field (does the same thing
as your star). The opposite command is "passwd -u username", which
unlocks the account.

-Chris

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screen blanks with nomodeset

[Jack Howarth]

   Is anyone else still having the stock ati drivers in Fedora
10 occasionally blank out the screen? I have been resorting to
the use of the nomodeset kernel argument in an attempt to disable
modesetting, but, while less frequent, the black screens still
appear. Normally, it will return back to the same display but on
occasion, I get a reboot. This is on a Radeon X1650 Pro with
Fedora 10 x86_64.
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Re: useradd with * in passwd field

[Sudarshan Soma]

Thanks Chris.
I got the command ,
usermod -p "*" user  &> /dev/null

Actually i want to make user with no access at any time.

Best Regards,
pavan

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Chris Tyler  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 19:37 +0530, Sudarshan Soma wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I need to add a user who will have entry in the /etc/passwd file as
>> below,  where the passwd field is marked as *
>>
>> myuser:*:12:23:guest:/:/bin/bash
>>
>> I need to do this by using command useradd, but i am not able to find
>> easier way to do this by commands other than manually editing passwd
>> file.
>>
>>
>> The intention is to create a user with whcih login can never happen
>> Please suggest
>
> Hi Pavan,
>
> First, you should in almost all cases have shadow password support
> enabled, so the actual passwords will be in /etc/shadow not /etc/passwd.
>
> Second, useradd will by default create an account which cannot be
> accessed until a password is added (typically with the passwd command).
> If you need to lock an account that has a password so that it cannot be
> used for login, you can use "passwd -l username"; note that this
> prepends an exclamation mark to the password field (does the same thing
> as your star). The opposite command is "passwd -u username", which
> unlocks the account.
>
> -Chris
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Re: useradd with * in passwd field

[Stephen Berg (Contractor)]

Sudarshan Soma wrote:

Thanks Chris.
I got the command ,
usermod -p "*" user  &> /dev/null

Actually i want to make user with no access at any time.

Best Regards,
pavan
  
You should probably use "passwd -l " then.  Let the passwd 
command lock the account properly.


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Re: screen blanks with nomodeset

[Christopher K. Johnson]

Jack Howarth wrote:

   Is anyone else still having the stock ati drivers in Fedora
10 occasionally blank out the screen? I have been resorting to
the use of the nomodeset kernel argument in an attempt to disable
modesetting, but, while less frequent, the black screens still
appear. Normally, it will return back to the same display but on
occasion, I get a reboot. This is on a Radeon X1650 Pro with
Fedora 10 x86_64.
Jack

  
It happens to me occasionally, and when it does it becomes completely 
unresponsive to power button, keyboard, mouse, and network.  I have to 
force power off.  I have nomodeset kernel option in grub.


Mine is ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 on kernel 
2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686.


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Re: Nsplugwrapper-X86_64 ??

[Jim]

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Jim wrote:

Remi Collet wrote:

Le 05/04/2009 20:15, Jim a écrit :
 

FC10-X86_64 / KDE

nspluginwrapper-x86_64 installed,  What gives ?  , I can't install 
both

i386, x86_64 at the same time ?


Yes, you can.

On another way : have you try the new 64 bits flash plugin ?
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Works quite well.

+

  
I have both the 64 bit Flashplugin and JRE-Plugin working I just need 
to get the 32 bit AdobeReader-plugin installed.


Jim,
I have:

nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-2.fc9.x86_64
nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-2.fc9.i386

installed together.  Do you have *any* .i386 RPMs installed on your 
system yet?  If not, check your /etc/yum.conf file for the following 
line:


exactarch=0

If its set to 1, you might not be able to install any .i386 RPMs on 
your X86_64 system.  Also, make sure you include the arch in the yum 
command:


yum install nspluginwrapper.i386

It should bring in all the other .386 RPMs with its dependencies to 
make it work.


The nspluginwrapper.i386  did not show up in my X86_64 repos, I had to 
go out and get it off rpm.pbone.net and then install.


But the big Question floating out there is that you may not need the 
i386 ver. to install plugins, the X86_64 ver. does the job.


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re the new KDE 4.2 (or so)

[Elgato Salvahey]

It is a law of cosmology, and the second law of thermodynamics, that the 
entropy of the
universe must
always increase. Since this implies that ALL things MUST increase in complexity,
what you say is inevitable. Take for instance the telephone. It once was a 
simple
device that did a good job for what it was intended. Contrast the modern 
cell-phone.
It plays music, surfs the net and, as an afterthought, might even allow you to 
make
a telephone call. QED

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cups 1.3.3 - brother m1809 prints configurations

[g]

using cups 1.3.3 with a brother m1809 dmp prints configurations instead of 
pages.

printing to a samsung ml-4500 is correct.

because no driver is available for this printer, i am using epson 24 pin driver.
[5 years ago, i used
ibm raw under mandrake with no problem. can not find driver now]

when printing an email, page prints correctly.

when printing a text file, printout is of cups configuration. there is a
postscript file generated.

any ideas or suggestions appreciated.

tia.
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Re: useradd with * in passwd field

[Chris Tyler]

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 20:20 +0530, Sudarshan Soma wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Chris Tyler  wrote:
> > Hi Pavan,
> >
> > First, you should in almost all cases have shadow password support
> > enabled, so the actual passwords will be in /etc/shadow not /etc/passwd.
> >
> > Second, useradd will by default create an account which cannot be
> > accessed until a password is added (typically with the passwd command).
> > If you need to lock an account that has a password so that it cannot be
> > used for login, you can use "passwd -l username"; note that this
> > prepends an exclamation mark to the password field (does the same thing
> > as your star). The opposite command is "passwd -u username", which
> > unlocks the account.
> >
> Thanks Chris.
> I got the command ,
> usermod -p "*" user  &> /dev/null
> 
> Actually i want to make user with no access at any time.
> 
> Best Regards,
> pavan

Pavan,

If you're using usermod, you'll want the -L option.

(Also: on this list (and other Fedora lists), please reply at the bottom
of messages instead of the top -- it preserves the flow of discussion).

-Chris

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Re: Editor to program in C

[Aldo Foot]

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Armin  wrote:
> On Sunday 05 April 2009 01:23:33 Aldo Foot wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Paul Smith  wrote:
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a
>> > proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there
>> > something better?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Paul
>>
>> I find that Kwrite (KDE) is quite good.
>> Kwrite visual cues are quite helpful, specially when there is a bunch
>> of nested if/while/case staments.
>> Also It has a pane were you see a list  of opened files and a
>> built in terminal to execute the program.
>>
>> In the end it's a matter of personal preference.
>> ~af
>
> You mean Kate, not Kwrite.  Kwrite doesn't have these!
>

Doh! Of course. I meant Kate. I use Kate.

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Re: useradd with * in passwd field

[Aldo Foot]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Sudarshan Soma  wrote:
> Thanks Chris.
> I got the command ,
> usermod -p "*" user  &> /dev/null
>
> Actually i want to make user with no access at any time.
>
> Best Regards,
> pavan

You mean not let it login ever?
Then change the shell entry as shown.
   myuser:*:12:23:guest:/:/sbin/nologin

You cannot even login from the root account, you get a
message that says: "This account is currently not available."
It works well for service accounts that do not require login or
user interaction.

Also, please when replying, post at the bottom of the message.
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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[suvayu ali]

Hi Mikkel and Chris,

2009/4/6 Chris Tyler :
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 04:19 -0700, suvayu ali wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
>> time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?
>>
>> $ date
>> Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009
>>
>> --
>> Suvayu
>
> Perhaps your system is set to keep time in UTC, and another system
> (Linux distro, live disc, Windows) is set to to run the hardware clock
> in local time, and bumped the time by 1 hour when you booted after the
> daylight savings time switch?
>
I have my hardware clock set to the local time. Yesterday I booted to
my XP partition first time after the DST change. Looks like that had
something to do with this.

> >From the Gnome desktop, you can right-click on the clock in the panel
> bar and select 'Adjust Date and Time';
>
I tried changing it from there, but it wouldn't let me change it even
after entering the root password. It could be that I was doing a typo
there, as after your reply I changed it from the command line just
fine with a sudo before date.

> You can also set the time from the command line with the 'date' command
> (see 'man date'), or get the time from a time server (once) with the
> command 'rdate -s time.nist.gov' (US server, not responding from here
> atm) or 'rdate -s time.nrc.ca' (Canadian server). Once the system
> (software) clock is updated, you can then write the time to the hardware
> clock with 'hwclock --systohc'.
>
> Strong recommendation: turn on NTP (network time protocol) if your
> network environment is appropriate (i.e., usually connected to the
> internet and can initiate outbound connections to servers) -- your
> system will then periodically contact time servers and try to keep your
> local clock on-track. 'chkconfig ntpd on' should do the trick.
>
I have turned ntpd on, thanks for the suggestion.

I have a strong hunch booting to XP after the DST change caused this
mismatch. What is the recommended way of maintaining the system time
for dual boot machines?

> -Chris
>

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Re: useradd with * in passwd field

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Sudarshan Soma wrote:
> Thanks Chris.
> I got the command ,
> usermod -p "*" user  &> /dev/null
> 
> Actually i want to make user with no access at any time.
> 
> Best Regards,
> pavan
> 
Depending on exactly what you are after, you man want to look at
setting the shell to /sbin/nologin.
(-s /sbin/nologin)

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Aldo Foot]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:19 AM, suvayu ali  wrote:
> Hi all,
> The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
> time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?
>
> $ date
> Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009
>
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>
> Open source is the future. It sets us free.

This may be totally unrelated, but what time is set in the BIOS?

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Re: screen blanks with nomodeset

[Jack Howarth]

Chris,
   The worst part is that the fglrx drivers have stopped working
on my machine with X1650 Pro graphics. The kernel level drivers
seem to work okay, but when X starts up, I only get a black screen.
This issue doesn't occur on a MacBook Pro with X1600 graphics so
it appears to be specific to that particular graphics card. I tried
rawhide over the weekend and the new DRI2 ati drivers have there
on slew of issues (like rendering out of windows for pymol).
   Jack

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[suvayu ali]

2009/4/6 Aldo Foot :
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:19 AM, suvayu ali  
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
>> time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?
>>
>> $ date
>> Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009
>>
>> --
>> Suvayu
>>
>> Open source is the future. It sets us free.
>
> This may be totally unrelated, but what time is set in the BIOS?
>
> ~af
>
The BIOS is set to local time.

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Re: odd networking issue...

[Steve Ellis]

Scott van Looy wrote:

My network config is thus:

eth0 = x.x.x.210
eth0:1 = x.x.x.211

Up until the last kernel update it's all been fine (though I don't 
tend to reboot between kernel updates, so it might have been broken by 
something inbetween)


Now, eth0 comes up with eth0:1's IP and eth0:1 doesn't appear at all

ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 again gives me eth0:1's IP

system-config-network shows it to be correctly set up with the right 
IPs and stuff...


Any known issues? Anyone heard of anything similar? Very bizarre...

I had to get rid of NetworkManager in order to make this work 
correctly--which was fine as my system is a server that never switches 
networks and has only static IPs.  I did not debug the issue enough to 
file a bug report however.  Hope this helps,


-se

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Kam Leo]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM, suvayu ali  wrote:
> Hi Mikkel and Chris,
>
> 2009/4/6 Chris Tyler :
>> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 04:19 -0700, suvayu ali wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
>>> time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?
>>>
>>> $ date
>>> Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009
>>>
>>> --
>>> Suvayu
>>
>> Perhaps your system is set to keep time in UTC, and another system
>> (Linux distro, live disc, Windows) is set to to run the hardware clock
>> in local time, and bumped the time by 1 hour when you booted after the
>> daylight savings time switch?
>>
> I have my hardware clock set to the local time. Yesterday I booted to
> my XP partition first time after the DST change. Looks like that had
> something to do with this.
>
>> >From the Gnome desktop, you can right-click on the clock in the panel
>> bar and select 'Adjust Date and Time';
>>
> I tried changing it from there, but it wouldn't let me change it even
> after entering the root password. It could be that I was doing a typo
> there, as after your reply I changed it from the command line just
> fine with a sudo before date.
>
>> You can also set the time from the command line with the 'date' command
>> (see 'man date'), or get the time from a time server (once) with the
>> command 'rdate -s time.nist.gov' (US server, not responding from here
>> atm) or 'rdate -s time.nrc.ca' (Canadian server). Once the system
>> (software) clock is updated, you can then write the time to the hardware
>> clock with 'hwclock --systohc'.
>>
>> Strong recommendation: turn on NTP (network time protocol) if your
>> network environment is appropriate (i.e., usually connected to the
>> internet and can initiate outbound connections to servers) -- your
>> system will then periodically contact time servers and try to keep your
>> local clock on-track. 'chkconfig ntpd on' should do the trick.
>>
> I have turned ntpd on, thanks for the suggestion.
>
> I have a strong hunch booting to XP after the DST change caused this
> mismatch. What is the recommended way of maintaining the system time
> for dual boot machines?
>
>> -Chris
>>
>
> Thanks  a bunch. :)
> --
> Suvayu

When you use a dual/multi-boot system you need to disable one or more
of your systems from automatically updating for daylight savings. This
goes whether you are booting multiple versions of Windows or a mixture
of Windows and Linux.

The other issue is that you need to patch your Windows software.
Daylight savings began last month.

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Firefox default problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

I accidentally typed "VNC" when I meant "VLC" when Thunderbird asked me 
how to open a .wmv file and to make matters worse I clicked on the box 
to always do that!


Now I can't find how to undo that selection.

I know I can save the file and view it from the command line but there 
ought to be a way to undo this goof.  Does anyone know where the 
selection is stored?


Bob


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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/4/6 Bob Goodwin :
>
> I accidentally typed "VNC" when I meant "VLC" when Thunderbird asked me how
> to open a .wmv file and to make matters worse I clicked on the box to always
> do that!
>
> Now I can't find how to undo that selection.
>
> I know I can save the file and view it from the command line but there ought
> to be a way to undo this goof.  Does anyone know where the selection is
> stored?

Edit -> Preferences -> Applications -> Windows Media video

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/4/6 Sharpe, Sam J :
> 2009/4/6 Bob Goodwin :
>>
>> I accidentally typed "VNC" when I meant "VLC" when Thunderbird asked me how
>> to open a .wmv file and to make matters worse I clicked on the box to always
>> do that!
>>
>> Now I can't find how to undo that selection.
>>
>> I know I can save the file and view it from the command line but there ought
>> to be a way to undo this goof.  Does anyone know where the selection is
>> stored?
>
> Edit -> Preferences -> Applications -> Windows Media video

Actually, your subject said Firefox, but your post said Thunderbird.
The above is for Firefox.

Thunderbird is:

Edit -> Preferences -> Attachments -> View and Edit Actions -> (search
for wmv extension)

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Frank Cox]

On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:05:04 -0400
Bob Goodwin wrote:

> I know I can save the file and view it from the command line but there 
> ought to be a way to undo this goof.  Does anyone know where the 
> selection is stored?

Edit-Preferences-Applications

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/4/6 Sharpe, Sam J :
  

2009/4/6 Bob Goodwin :


I accidentally typed "VNC" when I meant "VLC" when Thunderbird asked me how
to open a .wmv file and to make matters worse I clicked on the box to always
do that!

Now I can't find how to undo that selection.

I know I can save the file and view it from the command line but there ought
to be a way to undo this goof.  Does anyone know where the selection is
stored?
  

Edit -> Preferences -> Applications -> Windows Media video



Actually, your subject said Firefox, but your post said Thunderbird.
The above is for Firefox.

Thunderbird is:

Edit -> Preferences -> Attachments -> View and Edit Actions -> (search
for wmv extension)

  


Sorry about the error in the subject.  I've been looking in both 
applications to try and find how to fix this.


Perhaps it can't be fixed from within Thunderbird?

/I have done "/Edit -> Preferences -> Attachments -> View and Edit 
Actions -> (search


for wmv extension)" a number of times but apparently I don't understand something, 
nothing I enter in the "Search" block does anything?

I can type "wmv" in the block and press enter - nothing happens?

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: re the new KDE 4.2 (or so)

[Steve Searle]

Around 04:49pm on Monday, April 06, 2009 (UK time), Elgato Salvahey scrawled:

> It is a law of cosmology, and the second law of thermodynamics, that
> the entropy of the universe must always increase. Since this implies
> that ALL things MUST increase in complexity,

This is wrong.  Entropy in the context of the seconf law of
thermodynamics refers to increacing unavailability of a systems energy,
i.e. increacing disorder.

You are confusing it with information theory I think, which has nothing
do do with thermodynamics.

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Re: screen blanks with nomodeset

[Steve Searle]

Around 05:33pm on Monday, April 06, 2009 (UK time), Jack Howarth scrawled:

> Chris,
>The worst part is that the fglrx drivers have stopped working
> on my machine with X1650 Pro graphics. The kernel level drivers
> seem to work okay, but when X starts up, I only get a black screen.

I have the same problem with a Radeon X1600/X1650 PRO card.

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[g]

Bob Goodwin wrote:

> Perhaps it can't be fixed from within Thunderbird?

maybe not.

> /I have done "/Edit -> Preferences -> Attachments -> View and Edit 
> Actions -> (search  > for wmv extension)" a number of times but apparently
> I don't understand something, nothing I enter in the "Search" block does 
> anything?

if you show nothing, you may have nothing.

try 'edit > preferences > advanced > general > config editor', search for
'actions', 'open',
etc.

i do not have tbird 'open with' set for anything so i do not know just how it
would show up.

also, goto your profile director and 'grep wav'. never know.


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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[suvayu ali]

2009/4/6 Kam Leo :
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM, suvayu ali  
> wrote:
>> Hi Mikkel and Chris,
>>
>> 2009/4/6 Chris Tyler :
>>> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 04:19 -0700, suvayu ali wrote:
 Hi all,
 The system time on my F10 is showing a time one hr ahead of the real
 time, neither does it let me change. What could be wrong?

 $ date
 Mon Apr  6 05:17:16 PDT 2009

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>>>
>>> Perhaps your system is set to keep time in UTC, and another system
>>> (Linux distro, live disc, Windows) is set to to run the hardware clock
>>> in local time, and bumped the time by 1 hour when you booted after the
>>> daylight savings time switch?
>>>
>> I have my hardware clock set to the local time. Yesterday I booted to
>> my XP partition first time after the DST change. Looks like that had
>> something to do with this.
>>
>>> >From the Gnome desktop, you can right-click on the clock in the panel
>>> bar and select 'Adjust Date and Time';
>>>
>> I tried changing it from there, but it wouldn't let me change it even
>> after entering the root password. It could be that I was doing a typo
>> there, as after your reply I changed it from the command line just
>> fine with a sudo before date.
>>
>>> You can also set the time from the command line with the 'date' command
>>> (see 'man date'), or get the time from a time server (once) with the
>>> command 'rdate -s time.nist.gov' (US server, not responding from here
>>> atm) or 'rdate -s time.nrc.ca' (Canadian server). Once the system
>>> (software) clock is updated, you can then write the time to the hardware
>>> clock with 'hwclock --systohc'.
>>>
>>> Strong recommendation: turn on NTP (network time protocol) if your
>>> network environment is appropriate (i.e., usually connected to the
>>> internet and can initiate outbound connections to servers) -- your
>>> system will then periodically contact time servers and try to keep your
>>> local clock on-track. 'chkconfig ntpd on' should do the trick.
>>>
>> I have turned ntpd on, thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> I have a strong hunch booting to XP after the DST change caused this
>> mismatch. What is the recommended way of maintaining the system time
>> for dual boot machines?
>>
>
> When you use a dual/multi-boot system you need to disable one or more
> of your systems from automatically updating for daylight savings. This
> goes whether you are booting multiple versions of Windows or a mixture
> of Windows and Linux.
>

I am in Vancouver, so DST started for me about a month back, but I
haven't used XP until last evening after the change. Probably that is
when the hardware clock got altered.

Also my XP install is not connected  to the Internet. But I don't know
whether the time is set to correct for DST automatically. I'll check
when I get home tonight.

> The other issue is that you need to patch your Windows software.
> Daylight savings began last month.
>

Thank you :)

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/4/6 Bob Goodwin :
> Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>>
>> 2009/4/6 Sharpe, Sam J :
>>
>>>
>>> 2009/4/6 Bob Goodwin :
>>>

 I accidentally typed "VNC" when I meant "VLC" when Thunderbird asked me
 how
 to open a .wmv file and to make matters worse I clicked on the box to
 always
 do that!

 Now I can't find how to undo that selection.

>> Thunderbird is:
>>
>> Edit -> Preferences -> Attachments -> View and Edit Actions -> (search
>> for wmv extension)
>>
>>
>
> Sorry about the error in the subject.  I've been looking in both
> applications to try and find how to fix this.
>
> Perhaps it can't be fixed from within Thunderbird?
>
> /I have done "/Edit -> Preferences -> Attachments -> View and Edit Actions
> -> (search
>
> for wmv extension)" a number of times but apparently I don't understand
> something, nothing I enter in the "Search" block does anything?
>
> I can type "wmv" in the block and press enter - nothing happens?
>
> What am I doing wrong?

Don't know - I confess that when I use my instructions, I find no
applications/extensions listed in that box - but I assumed that it was
because I'm not a huge Thunderbird user. Possibly Thunderbird now gets
it's application preferences from elsewhere.

Have you tried (if you are a Gnome user) right-clicking on a WMV file
and checking what Gnome will open it with - or do the KDE equivalent.
It's possible that Thunderbird is using the native dialogs to work out
what to do with files. I just checked an OpenOffice file (I'm not big
on people emailing me videos) and what pops up looks very much like a
Gnome dialog to me...

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 09:56 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM, suvayu ali  
> wrote:
> >
> > I have a strong hunch booting to XP after the DST change caused this
> > mismatch. What is the recommended way of maintaining the system time
> > for dual boot machines?
> 
> When you use a dual/multi-boot system you need to disable one or more
> of your systems from automatically updating for daylight savings. This
> goes whether you are booting multiple versions of Windows or a mixture
> of Windows and Linux.

Linux in UTC will always show the correct time (as long as the hardware
clock is correct UTC), whether on or off at the transition.

Linux in local time will *not* make adjustments for DST if it is not
running when the transition occurs, but it will adjust if it is running
at that time.  

Windows will adjust if it is running or the first time it is turned on
after the change, no matter what.

So you can see that there are various kinds of trouble you can get into
if you try to use local time on a dual-boot machine, depending on which,
if any, system is running at the transition time.

I don't use Windows that much, so I keep the hardware clock in UTC,
Linux running ntpd, Windows in time zone GMT with DST adjustments turned
off (which has to be done for all Windows users separately).  Then the
machine shows the correct local time in Linux, but it shows UTC in
Windows.

I've heard that there is a Windows registry entry that allows one to
keep the hardware clock in UTC on Windows, but I've also heard that it
can break things.

> 
> The other issue is that you need to patch your Windows software.
> Daylight savings began last month.

The other thing that makes this hard is that DST starts on different
dates in different countries, and countries keep changing things...
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Re: Problem with Anaconda (Fedora) and Xcell 2000 mobo

[Erick Martínez]

Thanks a lot to James Wilkinson and Karsten Wade for your suggestions.

Well, I have a lot of problems trying to install Fedora in that old PC100 
(PCChips) XCell mobo with Sis chipset but at least the Fedora 10 installation 
DVD now does recognize the harddrive. I'll try this media, if not success, I'll 
try the netinst cd version of Fedora 10 instead. Later I'll tell you how is 
going the thing. C'ya!


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Subject: Re: Problem with Anaconda (Fedora) and Xcell 2000 mobo
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 4:24 PM

Erick Martínez wrote:
> Hello. I've problems trying to install Fedora (7,8,9, and maybe
> realese 10, cause I almost finish the downloading) in an old cpu Intel
> Celeron Coppermine-128 600 Mhz with 396 MB RAM on a PCChips M748LMRT
> "XCell 200" MOBO.

Ouch! The memory will be a bit limited, and the processor a bit slow,
but that looks like it’s a SiS chipset on a PCChips motherboard. I had a
lot of problems with those.

> The problem in fact is, that Anacando doesn't
> recognize any hard drive. I found a post but can't open it
>
(http://www.planetalinux.com.ar/forum/viewforum.php?f=26&st=0&sk=t&sd=d&start=400,
> http://www.planetalinux.com.ar/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2118). Any
> suggestions?

You may find http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9157 a more
useful link. Fedora (from 7 onwards, I believe) uses the new libata set
of drivers exclusively.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelCommonProblems may also be worth
reviewing for its treatment of kernel and module parameters.

I believe Fedora 10 has a lot of ATA drivers built-in, but it doesn’t
look like ata_generic is. It looks like on Fedora 10, you can append 
ata_generic.all_generic_ide=1
to the kernel boot line, and you’ll be more likely to detect the disk.

Do you need a more detailed walkthrough of where to set those
parameters? You’ll need to do it when booting the install media, and
then make sure grub picks it up – you might find it easier, to begin
with, simply to edit the grub command line each time you boot.

Hope this helps,

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Tom Horsley]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:56:41 -0700
Kam Leo wrote:

> The other issue is that you need to patch your Windows software.
> Daylight savings began last month.

In most of the United States, anyway :-).

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 06 April 2009 18:39:20 Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> Have you tried (if you are a Gnome user) right-clicking on a WMV file
> and checking what Gnome will open it with - or do the KDE equivalent.

Which would be SystemSettings > Advanced tab > File Associations

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Wireless problem with Fedora 9 and 2Wire 1800

[Erick Martínez]

Hello! I'm trying to connect my old IBM Thinkpad iSeries (1400) with Fedora 9 
and an AirLink101 AWLL3025v2 (my usb wireless) to a 2Wire 1800 Homeportal. My 
kernel is up to date (2.6.27), but it just dont connect. Even, when the network 
manager ask me for the enc key (and after I put the right one),  try to 
connects to the 2Wire, the modem just reset itself! I found that there other 
people with the same problem, but don't know where to search, cause, until I 
read, its a kernel problem. When I use the Wireless USB adapter on MS Windows 
it works, Also, when I connect my Ipaq with Windows Mobile via wifi it connects 
too. Somebody has this problem?

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

g wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

  

Perhaps it can't be fixed from within Thunderbird?



maybe not.

  
/I have done "/Edit -> Preferences -> Attachments -> View and Edit 
Actions -> (search  > for wmv extension)" a number of times but apparently

I don't understand something, nothing I enter in the "Search" block does 
anything?



if you show nothing, you may have nothing.

try 'edit > preferences > advanced > general > config editor', search for
'actions', 'open',
etc.

i do not have tbird 'open with' set for anything so i do not know just how it
would show up.

also, goto your profile director and 'grep wav'. never know.


hth.

  


I'm afraid nothing helps!  I did find that under "view and edit actions" 
I can enter wmv in the search window and then double-click on the the 
large text window below it a second menu comes up where I enter my 
preferences and click on "OK" but that causes no action, nothing happens 
that I can see.  The Cancel button works but the OK button has no effect.


There's a Mozilla page I can try but historically that's been a waste of 
time ...


I'll let this slide 'til F-11 comes along and I'll start over.  I know 
not to tell it to always do it that way.


Thanks.

Bob

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Re: Wireless problem with Fedora 9 and 2Wire 1800

[Kevin Kofler]

Erick Martínez wrote:
> AirLink101 AWLL3025v2 (my usb wireless)

You should also specify the chipset. I looked it up for you and it's zd1211.

> My kernel is up to date (2.6.27), but it just dont connect.

Do you have zd1211-firmware installed? You need it to use that device.

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:56:41 -0700,
  Kam Leo  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM, suvayu ali  
> wrote:
> 
> When you use a dual/multi-boot system you need to disable one or more
> of your systems from automatically updating for daylight savings. This
> goes whether you are booting multiple versions of Windows or a mixture
> of Windows and Linux.

In general it is better to have the BIOS keep time in UTC. Then no OSs need
to muck with it for DST changes. However I am not sure if Windows OSs give
you that option.

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Re: Any tips on Asus PC eee 1000HE netbook?

[Bill Davidsen]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 13:57 -0400, Jim wrote:

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I've just acquired one of the above beasties. The thing comes with XP,
so I'm interested in installing a dual-boot system with Fedora. AFAIK
the 900 and 901 models are known to work, but the 1000HE is fairly new.
I wondered if people who've already done this can warn me of potential
pitfalls. 


All advice gratefully accepted.

poc

  
As of kernel-2.27 in Fedora 10 , the Asus 1000 Sd version all the 
drivers are available .

Had no problems of installing.


Thanks to all for the info. It looks very promising and I'll be trying
F10 in the next or two. I have a sneaking desire to go straight to F11b
(mainly for the ext4 fs) but that may be a bridge too far at the moment.

ext4 has been available since FC9... FC11 makes it the default, but you don't 
need (or IMHO *want*) to go FC11 if you are interested in using the machine as 
opposed to having a learning experience. FC11 is "good for beta" but definitely 
in a testing stage. And during install there's a prompt something like "Are you 
out of your mind?" or similar, to remind you this may not be suitable for 
production. And in my experience it isn't, although it's a fun ride if you have 
multiple machines and use one for playing.


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Re: 64 bit kernel in 32 bit system

[Bill Davidsen]

Konstantin Svist wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

I have read that there will be a feature to run a 64 bit kernel in a
32 bit install of FC11. I'm curious about the number of things it
would take to build such a kernel for FC10 (other than building the
kernel, obviously).

Any input from whoever is does that part for fc11?




And Konstantin, who read the wike the way I did, clarified:


From https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList

Feature 'Supported Architectures
' summary:
"Change supported architectures and default installed kernels. The
x86_64 kernel will be installed and used on compatible hardware, even
when installing a 32-bit operating system. The PAE kernel will be used
on 32-bit hardware, where appropriate"

Note that
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ArchitectureSupport#Contingency_Plan
says
"For x86_64-on-32: do not ship x86_64 on 32-bit x86, only ship 32-bit
kernels. This contingency plan has been enacted."

I think the idea here was to use the 64-bit kernel if installing the OS
on 64-bit hardware, even if the OS software would be 32-bit. While
32-bit programs wouldn't be able to address large chunks of RAM, at
least the kernel would - so running multiple instances of 32-bit
programs could make use of the whole RAM.

I really like this idea, since it provides most of the benefit of 64 bit 
operation without needing to have both the 32 and 64 bit libraries, for that 
vast number of systems which have >4GB memory but no programs which use anything 
like that much address space.


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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Tim]

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 13:05 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I accidentally typed "VNC" when I meant "VLC" when Thunderbird asked
> me how to open a .wmv file and to make matters worse I clicked on the
> box to always do that!
>
> Now I can't find how to undo that selection.

Does Thunderbird have a mimeTypes.rdf file in your profile, like Firefox
has?  If so, you could modify the action for wmv, manually.  Ensure the
program is not running at all while you do this.

Firefox's:  ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/mimeTypes.rdf

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Re: serious virtualization without HW support?

[Bill Davidsen]

Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  i'm reading the section on CPU virtualization extensions here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Quick_Start

and it occurs to me to ask whether anyone would want to get
*seriously* into virtualization without having machines with those
extensions.

  is it safe to say that, by now, most modern systems come with VT or
AMD-V support?  and by "serious" virtualization, i don't mean someone
downloading and goofing around with it, i mean people who want to set
up virtual corporate servers or mission-critical stuff.

  thoughts?

For running Linux machines, there's nothing wrong with using xen, and it 
probably runs faster than hardware virtualization. For non-Linux I would pass on 
emulation.


There's nothing wrong with it, I know a few web hosting operations which still 
use xen. If Fedora supported xen I would probably use it on some available 
hardware, I just don't feel like going back to the days of building and updating 
my own kernels all the time.


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Re: Any tips on Asus PC eee 1000HE netbook?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:55 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 13:57 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>> I've just acquired one of the above beasties. The thing comes with XP,
> >>> so I'm interested in installing a dual-boot system with Fedora. AFAIK
> >>> the 900 and 901 models are known to work, but the 1000HE is fairly new.
> >>> I wondered if people who've already done this can warn me of potential
> >>> pitfalls. 
> >>>
> >>> All advice gratefully accepted.
> >>>
> >>> poc
> >>>
> >>>   
> >> As of kernel-2.27 in Fedora 10 , the Asus 1000 Sd version all the 
> >> drivers are available .
> >> Had no problems of installing.
> > 
> > Thanks to all for the info. It looks very promising and I'll be trying
> > F10 in the next or two. I have a sneaking desire to go straight to F11b
> > (mainly for the ext4 fs) but that may be a bridge too far at the moment.
> > 
> ext4 has been available since FC9... FC11 makes it the default, but you don't 
> need (or IMHO *want*) to go FC11 if you are interested in using the machine 
> as 
> opposed to having a learning experience. FC11 is "good for beta" but 
> definitely 
> in a testing stage. And during install there's a prompt something like "Are 
> you 
> out of your mind?" or similar, to remind you this may not be suitable for 
> production. And in my experience it isn't, although it's a fun ride if you 
> have 
> multiple machines and use one for playing.

Yes, I'd pretty much sussed that after reading around a bit.

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[suvayu ali]

2009/4/6 Matthew Saltzman :
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 09:56 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM, suvayu ali  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a strong hunch booting to XP after the DST change caused this
>> > mismatch. What is the recommended way of maintaining the system time
>> > for dual boot machines?
>>
>> When you use a dual/multi-boot system you need to disable one or more
>> of your systems from automatically updating for daylight savings. This
>> goes whether you are booting multiple versions of Windows or a mixture
>> of Windows and Linux.
>
> Linux in UTC will always show the correct time (as long as the hardware
> clock is correct UTC), whether on or off at the transition.
>
> Linux in local time will *not* make adjustments for DST if it is not
> running when the transition occurs, but it will adjust if it is running
> at that time.
>
> Windows will adjust if it is running or the first time it is turned on
> after the change, no matter what.
>
> So you can see that there are various kinds of trouble you can get into
> if you try to use local time on a dual-boot machine, depending on which,
> if any, system is running at the transition time.
>
> I don't use Windows that much, so I keep the hardware clock in UTC,
> Linux running ntpd, Windows in time zone GMT with DST adjustments turned
> off (which has to be done for all Windows users separately).  Then the
> machine shows the correct local time in Linux, but it shows UTC in
> Windows.
>
> I've heard that there is a Windows registry entry that allows one to
> keep the hardware clock in UTC on Windows, but I've also heard that it
> can break things.
>
>>
>> The other issue is that you need to patch your Windows software.
>> Daylight savings began last month.
>
> The other thing that makes this hard is that DST starts on different
> dates in different countries, and countries keep changing things...
> --
>                Matthew Saltzman

Thanks Matthew for this clear explanation. I am going to set the
hardware clock to UTC and set Windows to use UTC without DST
corrections to avoid further confusion. This seems like the most
sure-shot way to tackle the problem.

Thanks to all who replied. :)

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

Tim wrote:

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 13:05 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
  

I accidentally typed "VNC" when I meant "VLC" when Thunderbird asked
me how to open a .wmv file and to make matters worse I clicked on the
box to always do that!

Now I can't find how to undo that selection.



Does Thunderbird have a mimeTypes.rdf file in your profile, like Firefox
has?  If so, you could modify the action for wmv, manually.  Ensure the
program is not running at all while you do this.

Firefox's:  ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/mimeTypes.rdf

  
In /home/bobg/.thunderbird/inggc4ck.default/mimeTypes  I changed vnc to 
vlc on two lines which then caused it to once more ask me what 
application I wanted to use!


RDF:about="urn:mimetype:externalApplication:video/x-ms-wmv" 
 
   NC:path="/usr/bin/vlc"  
 
   NC:prettyName="vlc" 


And that fixes the problem, I selected vlc and the file played.

Thanks for the help.

Bob


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Re: Firefox default problem -

[g]

Tim wrote:

> Does Thunderbird have a mimeTypes.rdf file in your profile, like Firefox
> has?  If so, you could modify the action for wmv, manually.  Ensure the
> program is not running at all while you do this.


yes it does. and is reason for 'grep wav *' in profile directory to see if it
has action associated for .wav file. do not know if he ran this or not.

according to;
'http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Thunderbird
and
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Files_and_folders_in_the_profile_-_Thunderbird

mimeTypes.rdf --

Action to perform when downloading certain types of files. Can be deleted
 to reset download actions

so, either bob did not 'grep' in his profile directory or mimetypes did not 
show up.

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/4/6 g :
> Tim wrote:
>
>> Does Thunderbird have a mimeTypes.rdf file in your profile, like Firefox
>> has?  If so, you could modify the action for wmv, manually.  Ensure the
>> program is not running at all while you do this.
>
>
> yes it does. and is reason for 'grep wav *' in profile directory to see if it
> has action associated for .wav file. do not know if he ran this or not.

I didn't point this out earlier because I thought it was a typo - but
second time I'm not forgiving you ;o)

Bob's talking about a Windows Media Video (wmv) file, not a .wav file,
so grepping for that won't do jack.

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Opening OOo-3 files from Dolphin or Konqueror

[Jim]

FC 10-X86_64 / KDE

This box is a Fresh install of FC10 from FC8 ,  / was formatted and 
clean install, the /home/user was saved from FC8 .


For instance, opening a *.xls , *.odt any OO file, from Dolphin or 
Konqueror,  if you LEFT click on a Icon to open a xls, it will say it 
can't open it,
but if I RIGHT click and tell it to open with "OpenOffice Calc" it will 
open it.


In the window, when you RIGHT click it says;

? Open with Spreadsheet
Open with Openoffice Calc
Other

If you click on "Open with Spreadsheet" that when it says it can't open 
file,   There is  a ? in front of  'Open with Spreadsheet' , which it 
means it's a DEAD application launcher.


But if I select 'Open with Openoffice Calc' it then opens the .xls file.

That  ? Open with Spreadsheet  is a DEAD launcher and also the DEFAULT 
launcher when LEFT clicking on Icon to start opening a OpenOffice-3 file.


How Do I Get Rid of   ?  Open with Spreadsheet in the LEFT click window .

I have deleted the ~/user/.kde and let it regenerate a new .kde folder, 
but that doesn't help with my problem.


I also deleted the  .openoffice folder and let it regenerate a new 
.openoffice folder.


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Re: Firefox default problem -

[g]

Bob Goodwin wrote:

> In /home/bobg/.thunderbird/inggc4ck.default/mimeTypes  I changed vnc to 
> vlc on two lines which then caused it to once more ask me what 
> application I wanted to use!

my apologies. i should have explained why i said 'grep wav', which should have 
been
'wmv'. posting the 2 mozilla pages in 1st post would have helped also.

anyway, good to see you have it corrected.

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/4/6 g :
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
>> In /home/bobg/.thunderbird/inggc4ck.default/mimeTypes  I changed vnc to
>> vlc on two lines which then caused it to once more ask me what
>> application I wanted to use!
>
> my apologies. i should have explained why i said 'grep wav', which should 
> have been
> 'wmv'. posting the 2 mozilla pages in 1st post would have helped also.
>
> anyway, good to see you have it corrected.

I'm making up for yesterday's ndiswrapper != nspluginwrapper embarrassment ;o)

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[g]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

> I didn't point this out earlier because I thought it was a typo - but
> second time I'm not forgiving you ;o)

it was a 'brainpo'. 4 hrs sleep in 24 hrs for passed 5 days, taking care of
my mom, is started to get to me.

> Bob's talking about a Windows Media Video (wmv) file, not a .wav file,
> so grepping for that won't do jack.

i saw 'wmv', but brain registered 'wav', and reason i should have posted pages. 
my bad. :(

tonight i crash early.

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Re: Opening OOo-3 files from Dolphin or Konqueror

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/4/6 Jim :
> FC 10-X86_64 / KDE
>
> This box is a Fresh install of FC10 from FC8 ,  / was formatted and clean
> install, the /home/user was saved from FC8 .
>
> For instance, opening a *.xls , *.odt any OO file, from Dolphin or
> Konqueror,  if you LEFT click on a Icon to open a xls, it will say it can't
> open it,
> but if I RIGHT click and tell it to open with "OpenOffice Calc" it will open
> it.
>
> In the window, when you RIGHT click it says;
>
> ? Open with Spreadsheet
> Open with Openoffice Calc
> Other
>
> If you click on "Open with Spreadsheet" that when it says it can't open
> file,   There is  a ? in front of  'Open with Spreadsheet' , which it means
> it's a DEAD application launcher.
>
> But if I select 'Open with Openoffice Calc' it then opens the .xls file.
>
> That  ? Open with Spreadsheet  is a DEAD launcher and also the DEFAULT
> launcher when LEFT clicking on Icon to start opening a OpenOffice-3 file.
>
> How Do I Get Rid of   ?  Open with Spreadsheet in the LEFT click window .
>
> I have deleted the ~/user/.kde and let it regenerate a new .kde folder, but
> that doesn't help with my problem.
>
> I also deleted the  .openoffice folder and let it regenerate a new
> .openoffice folder.

What does "SystemSettings > Advanced tab > File Associations" say
about those type of files?

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

g wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

  
In /home/bobg/.thunderbird/inggc4ck.default/mimeTypes  I changed vnc to 
vlc on two lines which then caused it to once more ask me what 
application I wanted to use!



my apologies. i should have explained why i said 'grep wav', which should have 
been
'wmv'. posting the 2 mozilla pages in 1st post would have helped also.

anyway, good to see you have it corrected.

  
I also assumed it was an error.  What I should have done was grepped for 
vnc ...  I did not understand what you were getting at.


Thanks.

Bob

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[g]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

> I'm making up for yesterday's ndiswrapper != nspluginwrapper embarrassment ;o)

lol. go ahead. i deserve it.

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Re: Firefox default problem -

[g]

Bob Goodwin wrote:

> I also assumed it was an error.  What I should have done was grepped for 
> vnc ...  I did not understand what you were getting at.

tired brains great for making errors. as i said, i should have included pages 
so that you
would have known why of what i was presenting to you.

but as i said, main is that you did find how to correct problem.

one more thing i would suggest, just to be sure of file being correct, with a 
text file editor,
open mimetypes.rdf and look to insure that 'vnc' is not still in file. if it 
is, delete
 to  for where 'vnc' appears.

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Re: Opening OOo-3 files from Dolphin or Konqueror

[Jim]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/4/6 Jim :
  

FC 10-X86_64 / KDE

This box is a Fresh install of FC10 from FC8 ,  / was formatted and clean
install, the /home/user was saved from FC8 .

For instance, opening a *.xls , *.odt any OO file, from Dolphin or
Konqueror,  if you LEFT click on a Icon to open a xls, it will say it can't
open it,
but if I RIGHT click and tell it to open with "OpenOffice Calc" it will open
it.

In the window, when you RIGHT click it says;

? Open with Spreadsheet
Open with Openoffice Calc
Other

If you click on "Open with Spreadsheet" that when it says it can't open
file,   There is  a ? in front of  'Open with Spreadsheet' , which it means
it's a DEAD application launcher.

But if I select 'Open with Openoffice Calc' it then opens the .xls file.

That  ? Open with Spreadsheet  is a DEAD launcher and also the DEFAULT
launcher when LEFT clicking on Icon to start opening a OpenOffice-3 file.

How Do I Get Rid of   ?  Open with Spreadsheet in the LEFT click window .

I have deleted the ~/user/.kde and let it regenerate a new .kde folder, but
that doesn't help with my problem.

I also deleted the  .openoffice folder and let it regenerate a new
.openoffice folder.



What does "SystemSettings > Advanced tab > File Associations" say
about those type of files?

  


In the File Associations there are a whole lot of Known Types.

What Known Type are you referring to ?
You have;

message
text
audio
application
image
x-content
(and so on)

and just what are you looking for ?

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RE: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems

[John]

Kevin and others,

Thank you for helping me get a full version of fedora installed.  I have
successfully
built the simulator package (ns-2) that I'm interested in running. I was
dead in the
water without your help especially Kevin.

John

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To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: RE: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems


Kevin,

I'm trying to download the DVD version (much larger likely to fail). If it
fails, I may try the bit torrent (another can of worms for a windows box to
install) or I may run to the book store to buy the Fedora 10 bible w/ DVD
included.  I think that is the DVD you are talking about.

Again, thank you for the help.  I believe you have diagnosed my problem
differently than I had.  You can't set the environment variables correctly
to
complile when there is no complete compile environment.

I'll post success if I get it (that is on the final NS-2 goal). It looks
like I have
at least a day of effort on this (waiting for the download and all).

Best Regards,

John

An apprentice comes to his master and says, "Master, I have just created
the next generation editor. It seamlessly handles text, audio, video, and
images. It integrates with all know development environments and is portable
across
all know hardware platforms and operating systems."

The master bonks the apprentice on the head and says, "You idiot, I don't
want to learn a new editor."

:)

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To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems


John wrote:
> It was for sure a CD not a DVD.

Then it was certainly not the installer DVD. Most likely it was a live CD.
(And yes, those are installable. The default downloads on the current
download page are live CDs.) GCC is only included on the DVD.

Kevin Kofler

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revert kernel?

[Tom Horsley]

For testing on a bugzilla, I installed a 2.6.29 kernel from koji.
It worked fine on my test, but now yum is confused and can't
update my kernel with "normal" updates.

How the devil do I cleanly back out 2.6.29 so normal kernel updates
will get installed? (Or what can I tell yum to say "yes, go ahead
and install a older version number kernel").

The new version packages I have installed:

kernel-doc-2.6.29-10.fc10.noarch
kernel-2.6.29-10.fc10.x86_64
kernel-devel-2.6.29-10.fc10.x86_64
kernel-headers-2.6.29-10.fc10.x86_64
kernel-firmware-2.6.29-10.fc10.noarch

Note that only kernel and kernel-devel install multiple
instances, so the firmware, headers, and doc
on my system are only the 2.6.29 versions (which is what makes
me want to be very very careful :-).

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Re: Opening OOo-3 files from Dolphin or Konqueror

[Jim]

Jim wrote:

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/4/6 Jim :
 

FC 10-X86_64 / KDE

This box is a Fresh install of FC10 from FC8 ,  / was formatted and 
clean

install, the /home/user was saved from FC8 .

For instance, opening a *.xls , *.odt any OO file, from Dolphin or
Konqueror,  if you LEFT click on a Icon to open a xls, it will say 
it can't

open it,
but if I RIGHT click and tell it to open with "OpenOffice Calc" it 
will open

it.

In the window, when you RIGHT click it says;

? Open with Spreadsheet
Open with Openoffice Calc
Other

If you click on "Open with Spreadsheet" that when it says it can't open
file,   There is  a ? in front of  'Open with Spreadsheet' , which 
it means

it's a DEAD application launcher.

But if I select 'Open with Openoffice Calc' it then opens the .xls 
file.


That  ? Open with Spreadsheet  is a DEAD launcher and also the DEFAULT
launcher when LEFT clicking on Icon to start opening a OpenOffice-3 
file.


How Do I Get Rid of   ?  Open with Spreadsheet in the LEFT click 
window .


I have deleted the ~/user/.kde and let it regenerate a new .kde 
folder, but

that doesn't help with my problem.

I also deleted the  .openoffice folder and let it regenerate a new
.openoffice folder.



What does "SystemSettings > Advanced tab > File Associations" say
about those type of files?

  


In the File Associations there are a whole lot of Known Types.

What Known Type are you referring to ?
You have;

message
text
audio
application
image
x-content
(and so on)

and just what are you looking for ?

In known types, and in "application" I'm seeing a lot of  'vnd' types 
that have to to do Office apps.

that have types of;

spreadsheets
word processor
presenter

These are the file types that are coming up with DEAD application 
launchers, if I edit the file types 'vnd' and remove those
Three types as listed above I assume it will take those bad launchers 
out of the RIGHT click windows, is that so ??


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Routing problems with rawhide

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

I use my Laptop to route my brothers computer to the internet through
my UMTS modem.

With Fedora 8 it was enough to enable ip-forewarding and masquerading:
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE

However with Fedora11 my brother can ping my two IPs (eth0 and ppp0),
but no ip of the internet.

Do you have any idea what could be the cause?
Btw. I have selinux disabled.

Thank you in advance, Clemens

My routing table:
[r...@localhost ce]# /sbin/route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
10.64.64.64 *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  00 ppp0

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Re: revert kernel?

[Kam Leo]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> For testing on a bugzilla, I installed a 2.6.29 kernel from koji.
> It worked fine on my test, but now yum is confused and can't
> update my kernel with "normal" updates.
>
> How the devil do I cleanly back out 2.6.29 so normal kernel updates
> will get installed? (Or what can I tell yum to say "yes, go ahead
> and install a older version number kernel").
>
> The new version packages I have installed:
>
> kernel-doc-2.6.29-10.fc10.noarch
> kernel-2.6.29-10.fc10.x86_64
> kernel-devel-2.6.29-10.fc10.x86_64
> kernel-headers-2.6.29-10.fc10.x86_64
> kernel-firmware-2.6.29-10.fc10.noarch
>
> Note that only kernel and kernel-devel install multiple
> instances, so the firmware, headers, and doc
> on my system are only the 2.6.29 versions (which is what makes
> me want to be very very careful :-).
>

1. Use rpm to install the kernel package(s) that you want, e.g. "rpm
-ivh kernel-xyz kernel-devel-xyz". [Download package for local install
or install directly from the internet, e.g. rpm -ivh url_of_package.]
2. Restart and boot the kernel that you want to keep
3. Remove the kernel, kernel-headers, and kernel-doc, etc. that you do
not want.
4. Use yum to install/upgrade kernel packages.

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Re: symmetric multiprocessing?

[charles zeitler]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM, charles zeitler
>  wrote:
> | does anybody have any links?
> |
> | especially interested in:
> |
> | how does it work?
> | and linux 2.6 support of SMP
> | with XEON and AMD server motherboards.
> \--
>
> Linux and symmetric multiprocessing:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-linux-smp/
>
> SK
>
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thanks, Shakti. it seems that smp is likely not a good fit for the
multi-socket
opteron boards. time to google for info on numa..

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Re: symmetric multiprocessing?

[charles zeitler]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:13 PM, charles zeitler  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM, charles zeitler
>>  wrote:
>> | does anybody have any links?
>> |
>> | especially interested in:
>> |
>> | how does it work?
>> | and linux 2.6 support of SMP
>> | with XEON and AMD server motherboards.
>> \--
>>
>> Linux and symmetric multiprocessing:
>> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-linux-smp/
>>
>> SK
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.shakthimaan.com
>
>
> thanks, Shakti. it seems that smp is likely not a good fit for the
> multi-socket
> opteron boards. time to google for info on numa..
>
> charles zeitler
>


scuse my butter-thumbs, Shakthi... :O

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Re: How to reassign "hibernate/restore/resume" partition on F9? [SOLVED]

[Shannon McMackin]

On 04/04/2009 12:16 AM, David wrote:

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Tim  wrote:

On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 14:16 +1100, David wrote:

(1) Kernel boot message "Trying to resume from /dev/sda6".

This is wrong, it should be sda5.

It's set in the intrd file.  Use mkinitrd to recreate it.


Thanks !! for all replies.

mkinitrd was new to me, and exactly what I needed.

initrd-2.6.25-14.__3_cheers_for_Tim__.fc9.i686.img

Problem solved.


You can also set a kernel append of resume=/dev/sda5 in /etc/grub.conf...

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Re: symmetric multiprocessing?

[Konstantin Svist]

charles zeitler wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Shakthi Kannan  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM, charles zeitler
> mailto:cfzeit...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> | does anybody have any links?
> |
> | especially interested in:
> |
> | how does it work?
> | and linux 2.6 support of SMP
> | with XEON and AMD server motherboards.
> \--
>
> Linux and symmetric multiprocessing:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-linux-smp/
>
> SK
>
> --
> Shakthi Kannan
> http://www.shakthimaan.com
>
>  
> thanks, Shakti. it seems that smp is likely not a good fit for the
> multi-socket
> opteron boards. time to google for info on numa..
>
> charles zeitler
http://lse.sourceforge.net/numa/faq/index.html#numa_v_smp
As long as you have fewer than a dozen sockets, you'll do fine with an
SMP kernel :)



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Re: 64 bit kernel in 32 bit system

[Kevin Kofler]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I really like this idea, since it provides most of the benefit of 64 bit
> operation without needing to have both the 32 and 64 bit libraries

The real solution for that is to just install the 64-bit libraries only (as
is already the default for 64-bit Fedora - you only get legacy 32-bit
libraries if you explicitly install 32-bit stuff). 32-bit userspace on a
64-bit kernel is just an obsolete workaround.

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Re: serious virtualization without HW support?

[Kevin Kofler]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> There's nothing wrong with it, I know a few web hosting operations which
> still use xen. If Fedora supported xen I would probably use it on some
> available hardware, I just don't feel like going back to the days of
> building and updating my own kernels all the time.

Xen Dom0 support is coming back soon (and this time in a form accepted
upstream, so it should be here to stay), there's a test repository for
Fedora Xen Dom0 kernels already.

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Re: Opening OOo-3 files from Dolphin or Konqueror

[Kevin Kofler]

Jim wrote:
> If you click on "Open with Spreadsheet" that when it says it can't open
> file,   There is  a ? in front of  'Open with Spreadsheet' , which it
> means it's a DEAD application launcher.

You probably have some old .desktop file(s) in ~/.local/share/applications
(where ~ is your home directory).

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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Mike Burger]

Tim wrote:

On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
  

I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts
with the X Window System running.  What am I missing?



  

# id:5:initdefault:
id:1:initdefault:



I seem to recall seeing that before, delete the commented-out line.
  
In order to comment out a line in inttab, you need to use a semicolon, 
rather than a pound sign.


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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Mike Burger]

Mike Burger wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 

I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts
with the X Window System running.  What am I missing?



 

# id:5:initdefault:
id:1:initdefault:



I seem to recall seeing that before, delete the commented-out line.
  
In order to comment out a line in inttab, you need to use a semicolon, 
rather than a pound sign.
To clarify...the reason that this didn't work, in the first place, is 
that the initial initdefault line wasn't truly commented out, due to the 
pound sign instead of the semicolon.


After that, the init processing for an entry stops on the first 
match...since the "not properly commented" entry was first, it got 
matched, and runlevel 5 was how the system came up.


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Re: Wireless problem with Fedora 9 and 2Wire 1800

[Erick Martínez]

Yes, I know it is a zd1211 (my bad), sorry. I already have the firmware, but I 
going to try your suggestion, and try it out, Kevin. The network manager 
recognize the networks in the neighborhood, and in the list appear my 2Wire 
modem. Thx a lot Kevin for take a time to answer.


"Shalom"     Erick Martinez
Estudiante de piano y composición.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Kevin Kofler  wrote:
From: Kevin Kofler 
Subject: Re: Wireless problem with Fedora 9 and 2Wire 1800
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 2:38 PM

Erick Martínez wrote:
> AirLink101 AWLL3025v2 (my usb wireless)

You should also specify the chipset. I looked it up for you and it's
zd1211.

> My kernel is up to date (2.6.27), but it just dont connect.

Do you have zd1211-firmware installed? You need it to use that device.

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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Ed Greshko]

Mike Burger wrote:
> Mike Burger wrote:
>> Tim wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>>>  
 I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts
 with the X Window System running.  What am I missing?
 
>>>
>>>  
 # id:5:initdefault:
 id:1:initdefault:
 
>>>
>>> I seem to recall seeing that before, delete the commented-out line.
>>>   
>> In order to comment out a line in inttab, you need to use a
>> semicolon, rather than a pound sign.
> To clarify...the reason that this didn't work, in the first place, is
> that the initial initdefault line wasn't truly commented out, due to
> the pound sign instead of the semicolon.
>
> After that, the init processing for an entry stops on the first
> match...since the "not properly commented" entry was first, it got
> matched, and runlevel 5 was how the system came up.
>
I don't quite understand what you are saying

You said "the init processing for an entry stops on the first match". 
What is being matched to what?  Also, if the # isn't a comment character
then how are the other 25 lines in the inittab being parsed?

Thanks

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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Ed Greshko]

Ed Greshko wrote:
> Mike Burger wrote:
>   
>> Mike Burger wrote:
>> 
>>> Tim wrote:
>>>   
 On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
  
 
> I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts
> with the X Window System running.  What am I missing?
> 
>   
  
 
> # id:5:initdefault:
> id:1:initdefault:
> 
>   
 I seem to recall seeing that before, delete the commented-out line.
   
 
>>> In order to comment out a line in inttab, you need to use a
>>> semicolon, rather than a pound sign.
>>>   
>> To clarify...the reason that this didn't work, in the first place, is
>> that the initial initdefault line wasn't truly commented out, due to
>> the pound sign instead of the semicolon.
>>
>> After that, the init processing for an entry stops on the first
>> match...since the "not properly commented" entry was first, it got
>> matched, and runlevel 5 was how the system came up.
>>
>> 
> I don't quite understand what you are saying
>
> You said "the init processing for an entry stops on the first match". 
> What is being matched to what?  Also, if the # isn't a comment character
> then how are the other 25 lines in the inittab being parsed?
>
> Thanks
>
>   
Never mind.  I see what you are saying after all  I forgot for
the moment that the original id line was left in the modified file 
Duh...

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

suvayu ali wrote:
> 
> Thanks Matthew for this clear explanation. I am going to set the
> hardware clock to UTC and set Windows to use UTC without DST
> corrections to avoid further confusion. This seems like the most
> sure-shot way to tackle the problem.
> 
> Thanks to all who replied. :)
> 
There is a registry tweak for for XP so that you can have the
hardware clock set to UTC, and still have the time correctly
displayed for the time zone you have set. It is supposed to bother
some programs, but I have not run into any yet. (Then again, I don't
run XP that often.)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
"RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:0001

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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Ed Greshko]

Ed Greshko wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>   
>> Mike Burger wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Mike Burger wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 Tim wrote:
   
 
> On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  
> 
>   
>> I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts
>> with the X Window System running.  What am I missing?
>> 
>>   
>> 
>  
> 
>   
>> # id:5:initdefault:
>> id:1:initdefault:
>> 
>>   
>> 
> I seem to recall seeing that before, delete the commented-out line.
>   
> 
>   
 In order to comment out a line in inttab, you need to use a
 semicolon, rather than a pound sign.
   
 
>>> To clarify...the reason that this didn't work, in the first place, is
>>> that the initial initdefault line wasn't truly commented out, due to
>>> the pound sign instead of the semicolon.
>>>
>>> After that, the init processing for an entry stops on the first
>>> match...since the "not properly commented" entry was first, it got
>>> matched, and runlevel 5 was how the system came up.
>>>
>>> 
>>>   
>> I don't quite understand what you are saying
>>
>> You said "the init processing for an entry stops on the first match". 
>> What is being matched to what?  Also, if the # isn't a comment character
>> then how are the other 25 lines in the inittab being parsed?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>   
>> 
> Never mind.  I see what you are saying after all  I forgot for
> the moment that the original id line was left in the modified file 
> Duh...
>
>   
Hummm  Bad news

I had to test this and have in the intttab file

#   5 - X11
#   6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
#
; id:5:initdefault:
id:3:initdefault:

And the system still comes up in run level 5.





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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Kevin Kofler]

Ed Greshko wrote:
> Hummm  Bad news
> 
> I had to test this and have in the intttab file
> 
> #   5 - X11
> #   6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
> #
> ; id:5:initdefault:
> id:3:initdefault:
> 
> And the system still comes up in run level 5.

There is probably no comment sign anymore.

Upstart just rapidly scans /etc/inittab for the default runlevel and ignores
everything else. The only reason the file is still /etc/inittab is for
backwards compatibility. So it doesn't use a complete inittab parser, it
probably just scans for the first occurrence of id:?:initdefault,
completely ignoring any comment signs.

Just don't leave commented lines around.

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Re: System time 1 hr ahead of real time

[suvayu ali]

2009/4/6 Mikkel L. Ellertson :
> suvayu ali wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Matthew for this clear explanation. I am going to set the
>> hardware clock to UTC and set Windows to use UTC without DST
>> corrections to avoid further confusion. This seems like the most
>> sure-shot way to tackle the problem.
>>
>> Thanks to all who replied. :)
>>
> There is a registry tweak for for XP so that you can have the
> hardware clock set to UTC, and still have the time correctly
> displayed for the time zone you have set. It is supposed to bother
> some programs, but I have not run into any yet. (Then again, I don't
> run XP that often.)
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
> "RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:0001
>
> Mikkel

Thanks Mikkel :) Added that to the registry. My only reason for using
XP is some graphics intensive gaming, so doesn't matter much whether
certain apps likes that or not.

So after all this, my hardware clock is set to UTC. And both windows
and Fedora show the correct time for my time zone (with DST). Now only
the next DST change will tell whether everything is just right.

Thank you all for the help. ^_^

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Re: initdefault has no effect

[Mike Burger]

> Mike Burger wrote:
>> Mike Burger wrote:
>>> Tim wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

> I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts
> with the X Window System running.  What am I missing?
>


> # id:5:initdefault:
> id:1:initdefault:
>

 I seem to recall seeing that before, delete the commented-out line.

>>> In order to comment out a line in inttab, you need to use a
>>> semicolon, rather than a pound sign.
>> To clarify...the reason that this didn't work, in the first place, is
>> that the initial initdefault line wasn't truly commented out, due to
>> the pound sign instead of the semicolon.
>>
>> After that, the init processing for an entry stops on the first
>> match...since the "not properly commented" entry was first, it got
>> matched, and runlevel 5 was how the system came up.
>>
> I don't quite understand what you are saying
>
> You said "the init processing for an entry stops on the first match".
> What is being matched to what?  Also, if the # isn't a comment character
> then how are the other 25 lines in the inittab being parsed?
>
> Thanks

Again...within inittab, the # character is not a comment delimiter...the ;
character is.

Because the # was used, the first default line was matched, therefore
processing to determine the default runlevel stopped at the first
match...the line with the 5 in it.

Subsequent lines, which do not contain "initdefault" are processed,
because they do not match the "initdefault" parameter that was matched
above.
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