Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: g 

| intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house
| years ago along with many other oem suppliers because of their fear of
| not being included in ms specs.

I actually subscribe to your conspiracy theory.

Having said that, there are levels of evil.

Intel has been the most supportive of the major video controller
makers historically.  For example, Keith Packard is a long-time core X
developer and Intel pays him for things that benefit X in general as
well as the Intel X drivers.

ATI (now AMD) was open with specs, to a very useful degree, until
roughly 10 years ago.  Then they closed up tight.  A couple of years
ago, they started to make a large effort opening up.  That's still not
complete.  I don't know of anyone from ATI contributing to X in
general the way Keith is doing.  They are in a tough spot financially.

nVidia is the laggard.  On the other hand, many in the Linux community
appreciate their well-maintained closed source Linux driver.  I'm not
one of them.

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Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Steven W. Orr 

| The Intel line is so massively pipelined that it's almost impossible to 
| write an optimizer that doesn't have to flush its entire cache every few 
| instructions. 

Don't confuse companies with technologies.

What you don't like is the Pentium 4 design (and things with the same
design -- some Celerons, some Xeons, Pentium D, ...).  It is the
processor with such long pipelines.

The Pentium 3 was fine.  AMD's K7 was better.

Intel thought it could regain the lead with P4.  It worked for a while
but the experiment seems to have failed in the end.  The P4 is
history.  (Funnily enough, I bought my first P4 CPU today.)

The Intel Core 2 is technically ahead of the latest AMD products in
most ways.  The i7 finally gets an on-chip memory controller (as AMD
did way back when, copying the Alpha, if I remember correctly).

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Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread john wendel

Steven W. Orr wrote:


On Saturday, May 16th 2009 at 15:00 -, quoth g:

=>Valent Turkovic wrote:
=>
=>> If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
=>> expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
=>> that Intel drivers are becoming better.
=>
=>intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house
=>years ago along with many other oem suppliers because of their fear of
=>not being included in ms specs.
=>
=>in off quote of b.g., 'exclusively ms or be left out'.
=>
=>many 'old heads' are aware of this, and it is what has made building
=>linux drivers for a lot of good software very difficult when oem refuses
=>to release specs on systems.
=>
=>given enough time, driver writers will be able to over come the ms
=>monopoly so that there will be more hardware working in other than ms.

I need to go back and see the beginning of this thread, just in case 
anyone thinks I know what I'm talking about...


I don't know what I'm talking about either.



But for years now, I have had a marked preference for AMD processors. This 
is based on my past experience in compilers, especially in optimizers. 



AMD seems to be having some manufacturing problems, as well as financial 
problems, but they do know CPU design. Some of us always cheer for the 
underdog. And it looks like AMD just won big in the EU court decision.


The Intel line is so massively pipelined that it's almost impossible to 
write an optimizer that doesn't have to flush its entire cache every few 
instructions. 



Intel finally realized that pipeline flushing was the main thing the 
processor was doing. The "new" (I7) architecture has fixed this problem, 
with very impressive results.


Not that it matters, but the Alpha chip was one impressive processor. That 
thing could clock off as many as 6 instructions per clock tick because of 
intelligent pipelining.


Most of the Alpha crew went to work for Intel. I think it paid off for 
Intel.




The AMD line doesn't run as fast as the Intel chips on a clock-cycles per 
dollar basis, but it makes up for it in how it caches instructions. That's 
both why they're comparable and why it's even possible to write an 
optimizer for it.


You'll notice that both AMD and Intel have turned down the clocks speeds 
and are trying to make up lost performance with more cores per chip. For 
some HPC workloads, it isn't working.




Gcc is a truly amazing piece of work, and it certainly even qualifies as 
art. It supports a very wide range of architectures, but I would have to 
say that it does a better job of optimizing AMD code than Intel code. Then 
facton in that the processor itself does a better job of caching 
instructions, and you can see where I get my preferences.




Agreed. You'll see better performance on Intel chips using the Intel 
(ICC) compiler.


Regards,

John


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Re: spdif/iec958 stopped working

2009-05-16 Thread Konstantin Svist
Bump...
Still have the problem and still having to use analog audio (with
humming noise in the high levels)
I've confirmed that the receiver works with optical audio & also updated
pulse from yum today - still no dice.


Konstantin Svist wrote:
> $ uname -a
> Linux lain 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:08:10 EDT
> 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> # lspci -vvv -s 00:08.0
> 00:08.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio
> (rev b1)
> Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82fe
> Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
> SERR-  Latency: 0 (500ns min, 1250ns max)
> Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 23
> Region 0: Memory at fbe78000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
> PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
> Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
> Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
>
>
> It used to work just fine in both analog & IEC958 modes. It was working
> as of night of 4/29-4/30.
> Overnight, however, the / filled up due to several large xbmc core
> dumps. Last night the sound stopped working, which led me to discover
> the filled up partition. After cleaning up about a gig, the digital
> sound still doesn't work. Analog sound works just fine, though.
>
> Somewhat interesting to note - when I enable IEC958 in the volume
> control panel, the receiver switches from analog mode. (the computer is
> an HTPC, both analog & digital outputs go to the receiver). I suppose
> it's possible that the receiver died, but I feel software cause is much
> more likely.
>
> I didn't find any smoking guns in /var/log/messages - the only
> audio-related message was about pulse not being able to run with real
> time priority (which is normal, from what I gather)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Valent Turkovic wrote:

> If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora

I cannot say that "Intel sucks on Fedora", but some problems 
are apparent (like, kms won't work on i915, like the display 
freezing when trying to play videos, etc, but this sounds like 
a new 'paradigm' for the display driver, so we need to be 
patient (like we were when the desktop's new paradigm took 
shape in 2008 - and how it has matured!). Like the article 
says, there are so many interleaved projects, like intel 
driver, xorg, mesa, compositing, dri2, and whatnot. I am 
optimistic that it will be wonderful soon.



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Re: Lost Wifi connection this morning...

2009-05-16 Thread harry sedeng
W

2009/5/13, Linuxguy123 :
> My laptop, running F10, dropped its Wifi connection this morning and for
> a while wouldn't reconnect.  The other wireless devices in the house
> worked just fine. (iPhone, Windows Vista computer)
>
> When the connection was dropped, Network Manager didn't show any
> wireless routers to be available.  I disabled Network Manager and tried
> to connect manually.  I got a "device not available" error.
>
> Prior to this, wireless networking was bulletproof.
>
> For whatever reason, it started working again.
>
> /var/log/yum.log has these entries:
>
> May 12 05:01:14 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-1.fc10.i386
> May 12 05:01:14 Updated: 1:cups-libs-1.3.10-5.fc10.i386
> May 12 05:01:19 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.7.1-1.fc10.i386
> May 12 05:01:21 Updated: libcurl-devel-7.19.4-5.fc10.i386
> May 12 05:01:23 Updated: alsa-utils-1.0.20-1.fc10.i386
> May 12 05:01:38 Updated: 1:cups-1.3.10-5.fc10.i386
> May 12 05:01:57 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-1.fc10.i386
>
> Thanks
>
>
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deltaisos for F11?

2009-05-16 Thread Andre Robatino
Are there any plans for deltaisos for F10->F11 to be available at 
release time?  The size for each diso will probably be about half that 
of the corresponding full F11 ISO.  Torrents would be nice, but aren't 
really practical for slow connections since low upload speed makes 
seeding difficult.  Direct download would be preferable.  Jonathan 
Dieter put a diso for 32-bit beta->preview on his presto server, but I 
suspect the greater size and demand for a F10->F11 diso would kill his 
bandwidth quota.


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Re: F10 Wine/Garmin use

2009-05-16 Thread Robert L Cochran

Try the U. S. Geological Survey

Bob

On 05/16/2009 06:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 20:44 +, Beartooth wrote:
   

I'm running MapSource and TopoUS2008 under Wine on Fedora 10
Linux. I want to find the highest point on the highway from my house to my
in-laws', a couple hundred miles away.

The routing function insists on straight lines some times, and
follows roads other times -- regardless how I edit my preferences. How do
I make it go the way I want?

Once I do get it to do that, and then tell it to show the
profile, how do I get it to show me the various peaks *on* the *map*??
 


Frankly, I don't think this has anything to do with Fedora, or Linux, or
even Wine. You should look for a list or forum related to the apps
themselves.

poc

   


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Re: F10 Wine/Garmin use

2009-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 20:44 +, Beartooth wrote:
> 
>   I'm running MapSource and TopoUS2008 under Wine on Fedora 10
> Linux. I want to find the highest point on the highway from my house to my
> in-laws', a couple hundred miles away.
> 
>   The routing function insists on straight lines some times, and
> follows roads other times -- regardless how I edit my preferences. How do
> I make it go the way I want?
> 
>   Once I do get it to do that, and then tell it to show the
> profile, how do I get it to show me the various peaks *on* the *map*??

Frankly, I don't think this has anything to do with Fedora, or Linux, or
even Wine. You should look for a list or forum related to the apps
themselves.

poc

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F10 Wine/Garmin use

2009-05-16 Thread Beartooth


I'm running MapSource and TopoUS2008 under Wine on Fedora 10
Linux. I want to find the highest point on the highway from my house to my
in-laws', a couple hundred miles away.

The routing function insists on straight lines some times, and
follows roads other times -- regardless how I edit my preferences. How do
I make it go the way I want?

Once I do get it to do that, and then tell it to show the
profile, how do I get it to show me the various peaks *on* the *map*??

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Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Saturday, May 16th 2009 at 15:00 -, quoth g:

=>Valent Turkovic wrote:
=>
=>> If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
=>> expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
=>> that Intel drivers are becoming better.
=>
=>intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house
=>years ago along with many other oem suppliers because of their fear of
=>not being included in ms specs.
=>
=>in off quote of b.g., 'exclusively ms or be left out'.
=>
=>many 'old heads' are aware of this, and it is what has made building
=>linux drivers for a lot of good software very difficult when oem refuses
=>to release specs on systems.
=>
=>given enough time, driver writers will be able to over come the ms
=>monopoly so that there will be more hardware working in other than ms.

I need to go back and see the beginning of this thread, just in case 
anyone thinks I know what I'm talking about...

But for years now, I have had a marked preference for AMD processors. This 
is based on my past experience in compilers, especially in optimizers. 

The Intel line is so massively pipelined that it's almost impossible to 
write an optimizer that doesn't have to flush its entire cache every few 
instructions. 

Not that it matters, but the Alpha chip was one impressive processor. That 
thing could clock off as many as 6 instructions per clock tick because of 
intelligent pipelining.

The AMD line doesn't run as fast as the Intel chips on a clock-cycles per 
dollar basis, but it makes up for it in how it caches instructions. That's 
both why they're comparable and why it's even possible to write an 
optimizer for it.

Gcc is a truly amazing piece of work, and it certainly even qualifies as 
art. It supports a very wide range of architectures, but I would have to 
say that it does a better job of optimizing AMD code than Intel code. Then 
facton in that the processor itself does a better job of caching 
instructions, and you can see where I get my preferences.

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Re: Chromium daily builds?

2009-05-16 Thread g
Alex Bennee wrote:

> Is anyone aware of any repo's supplying daily builds of Chromium?

have you searched http://www.digg.com and http://www.distrowatch.com?

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Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread g
Valent Turkovic wrote:

> If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> that Intel drivers are becoming better.

intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house
years ago along with many other oem suppliers because of their fear of
not being included in ms specs.

in off quote of b.g., 'exclusively ms or be left out'.

many 'old heads' are aware of this, and it is what has made building
linux drivers for a lot of good software very difficult when oem refuses
to release specs on systems.

given enough time, driver writers will be able to over come the ms
monopoly so that there will be more hardware working in other than ms.

page was a good read. thanks for posting.

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Chromium daily builds?

2009-05-16 Thread Alex Bennee
Hi,

Is anyone aware of any repo's supplying daily builds of Chromium?

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Re: How to redirect http to https with Apache/SVN/SSL [SOLVED]

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 07:05 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:57 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >   
> >>> I think you had it with the redirect causing an error in svn. The 
> >>> change to https needs to be done at the request end (AFAIK) so if svn 
> >>> can't/won't do that properly you are better off failing it with a 
> >>> useful error than having the traffic to you be unencrypted.
> >>>
> >>> My opinion only, the client is not working in a good way, break it 
> >>> rather than having it work in an actively BAD way.
> >>>   
> >> Yes, that was what I thought, since there is no real way
> >> to get a redirect with svn in the picture.  I tried it in all
> >> sorts of ways but was not able to.  It would be nice if
> >> there was a way to do a redirect cleanly, but alas, it's
> >> not to be had.
> >> 
> > 
> > not that this is going to help but you are trying to solve a client
> > problem with a server solution. I don't see your problem as not being
> > able to 'redirect cleanly' because in my mind, 'RedirectPermanent' is as
> > clean as you can get but rather the client application apparently
> > doesn't have enough http skills to deal with the Redirect information it
> > has been given by the server. Probably some of that is about security
> > because you really don't want an unsophisticated client to willy nilly
> > accept redirection to another host/site/URL.
> >
> > Craig
> Yes, it makes sense what you are saying.

FWIW, the subversion version in F10 is quite nice about informing you
about the redirect:

$ svn co http://my.svn.host/svn/MyProject Project
svn: Repository moved permanently to
'https://my.svn.host/svn/MyProject'; please relocate

$ rpm -q subversion
subversion-1.5.4-3.x86_64


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If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/

If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
that Intel drivers are becoming better.

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KDE 4.2 screensaver

2009-05-16 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi all;

I'm running Fedora 10 (x86_64) and KDE 4.2

I set the screensaver to the 'slide show' and under the setup tab I selected a 
directory of images, I also selected 'Random order' ,  'Show names' , and 
'Include images from sub-folders'

The images are all quite large (shot with a 12.1 Mpx camera)

However when the screensaver is running many of the images show up as tiny 
thumbnail sized images..

Any thoughts on how to fix this ?

Thanks in advance...
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Re: Problem with NM and wired /wireless network

2009-05-16 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 05/15/2009 05:33 AM, Mike Martin wrote:

Hi
I have F10 running network manager

Both wireless and wireless work fine independently, however when
network cable is plugged in wireless says it is connected (as per
applet) but cannot access any sites .

Any idea what is going on here?

  
The important issue here is what does the routing table look like. With 
both connected, run the route(8) command with the -n parameter. Take a 
look at your route while on wireless only

Kernel IP routing table with Wireless only
Destination Gateway GenmaskFlags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0U  2 00 eth1
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0   255.255.0.0U  1000   00 eth1
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1   0.0.0.0UG 0   00 eth1
Kernel IP routing table with both wireless and wired note default route.
Destination Gateway GenmaskFlags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0  U 1  00 eth0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0  U 2  00 eth1
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0   255.255.0.0 U   1000   00 eth1
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1   0.0.0.0 UG   0  00 
eth0


I've seen cases where NM fails to set up the default route.

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Re: TV-out with nvidia drivers in Fedora 10

2009-05-16 Thread Anthony Messina
On Saturday 16 May 2009 09:41:04 am James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm trying to get the TV out from my GeForce FX5200 to work. I'd ideally
> like it to be on at the same time as my flat screen and with my desktop
> extended onto it. I've been searching around for some information, but
> most of it seems quite out of date. I've got the proprietary Nvidia
> drivers installed at the moment.
>
> I've checked all this and got working under Windows, just need it to
> work in Linux.
>
> Does anyone have any advice on how to achieve this,
> Much appreciated,
> James Allsopp

Forgot to attach my xrandr-switch.sh script, which is attached to a button on 
my MythTV remote:

#!/bin/bash
if [ "$(xrandr -q | grep -c '50.0\*')" == "1" ]; then
xrandr -r 51.0
nvidia-settings -a XVideoSyncToDisplay=256
else
xrandr -r 50.0
fi
exit 0


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Re: How to Capture Flash Streams - (Radio Stations)

2009-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 02:40 -0700, suvayu ali wrote:
> 2009/5/15 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> > On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 21:49 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> I used to record (time-shift) some radio programs over the web using mmsrip
> >> and mplayer (for MMS/ASF streams) but now one of my local radio stations
> >> switched to a Flash stream.  Here is the current URL:
> >>
> >> http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/univision/?callsign=WKAQAM
> >>
> >> I can play this (perfectly fine) using my browser but I'm wondering if 
> >> anyone
> >> knows of a command-line tool that could play/grab these kind of streams? 
> >> That
> >> way I could automate the process and schedule the recordings just like I 
> >> used
> >> to do with mmsrip/mplayer thru cron.
> >
> > Try looking for *.flv in /tmp. Hard link the name to something else so
> > the file doesn't go away when the stream finishes.
> >
> Actually its /tmp/Flash*

I think it can vary depending on the site (or maybe the plugin). I've
definitely seen *.flv as well. In any case, the principal is the same.

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Re: TV-out with nvidia drivers in Fedora 10

2009-05-16 Thread Anthony Messina
On Saturday 16 May 2009 09:41:04 am James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm trying to get the TV out from my GeForce FX5200 to work. I'd ideally
> like it to be on at the same time as my flat screen and with my desktop
> extended onto it. I've been searching around for some information, but
> most of it seems quite out of date. I've got the proprietary Nvidia
> drivers installed at the moment.
>
> I've checked all this and got working under Windows, just need it to
> work in Linux.
>
> Does anyone have any advice on how to achieve this,
> Much appreciated,
> James Allsopp

I use the TV out to drive a component projector (with the dongle) for my 
MythTV setup. For me, I either want the projector on (and the DFP off), or 
vice versa so I use XRandR to switch between them.  If you want both of them 
on at the same time, replace the NULL values in the metamodes option with the 
appropriate values.

/etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "TwinView Layout"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
EndSection

Section "Files"
ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia"
ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Device0"
Driver  "nvidia"
Option  "NoLogo" "TRUE"
Option  "UseEvents" "TRUE"
Option  "TwinView" "TRUE"
Option  "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
Option  "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP, TV"
Option  "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP-0, TV-0"
Option  "TVStandard" "HD1080i"
# Start with the DPF at 1920x1080 with the TV off (nVidia XRandR "fake rate 
50")
# Allow switch to the TV at 1920x1080 with the DFP off (nVidia XRandR "fake 
rate 51")
Option  "MetaModes" "DFP-0: 1920x1080, TV-0: NULL; DFP-0:NULL, 
TV-0: 1920x1080"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen0"
Device  "Device0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection

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Re: problem of update by yum

2009-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 13:38 +0800, cjzjm100 wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> I had updated by yum,however alway received the same result.
> The result was:
> filelists.xml.gz | 1.0 MB 00:15   
>   
> Traceback (most recent call last):

yum clean metadata

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Re: How to Capture Flash Streams - (Radio Stations)

2009-05-16 Thread Joe Smith

Jorge Fábregas wrote:

...
I can play this (perfectly fine) using my browser but I'm wondering if anyone 
knows of a command-line tool that could play/grab these kind of streams? ...




I found the following blog post helpful for capturing audio when a Flash 
video is not downloaded to a temp file:


Instructions and shell script for dubbing audio from a running
application into a file:
http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2009/04/19/recording-from-pulseaudio/

The script uses two command line utilities: pactl and parec. "pactl
list" produces a list of the active PA channels (is that the right
word?). From the list, the appropriate channel name is plucked out,
and passed to parec(ord) to grab the audio data.

The utilities are packaged on Fedora 9 with "pulseaudio-utils".

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TV-out with nvidia drivers in Fedora 10

2009-05-16 Thread James Allsopp
Hi,
I'm trying to get the TV out from my GeForce FX5200 to work. I'd ideally
like it to be on at the same time as my flat screen and with my desktop
extended onto it. I've been searching around for some information, but
most of it seems quite out of date. I've got the proprietary Nvidia
drivers installed at the moment.

I've checked all this and got working under Windows, just need it to
work in Linux.

Does anyone have any advice on how to achieve this,
Much appreciated,
James Allsopp

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Re: Lost Wifi connection this morning...

2009-05-16 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 05/13/2009 11:29 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

My laptop, running F10, dropped its Wifi connection this morning and for
a while wouldn't reconnect.  The other wireless devices in the house
worked just fine. (iPhone, Windows Vista computer)

When the connection was dropped, Network Manager didn't show any
wireless routers to be available.  I disabled Network Manager and tried
to connect manually.  I got a "device not available" error.

Prior to this, wireless networking was bulletproof.

For whatever reason, it started working again.

/var/log/yum.log has these entries:

May 12 05:01:14 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-1.fc10.i386
May 12 05:01:14 Updated: 1:cups-libs-1.3.10-5.fc10.i386
May 12 05:01:19 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.7.1-1.fc10.i386
May 12 05:01:21 Updated: libcurl-devel-7.19.4-5.fc10.i386
May 12 05:01:23 Updated: alsa-utils-1.0.20-1.fc10.i386
May 12 05:01:38 Updated: 1:cups-1.3.10-5.fc10.i386
May 12 05:01:57 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-1.fc10.i386

  
While my wireless is not on F10, when I connect at home (D-Link DIR 655 
WPA, work (Linksys WPA), and MIT my connections are very solid. But, 
when I connect at the Microsoft Office the wireless tends to lose the 
connection for a period of time, similar to yours.  When you lose your 
connection, check some of the wireless parameters, such as iwconfig and 
the dmesg logs and some other wireless tools. One thing I have seen at 
MIT is that my partner brings in his own router, and sometimes, if I am 
connected to MIT, sometimes NetworkManager decides it likes his router 
better, but I have not seen this behavior recently.



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Xsane problem in F-10 -

2009-05-16 Thread Bob Goodwin


I needed to copy a document yesterday but never succeeded.

With F-9 I connected the HP5370c and it just worked without a hitch.

But with this F-10 system the scanner showed up in lsusb and xsane  
seemed ready to make copies but after churning for a minute xsane 
crashed and it displayed a seg. fault error message. It seemed to be 
telling me that it was using "avision" which I believe contains the 
appropriate driver?


I did a little searching through the mailing list archives but nothing 
showed immediately and I ran out of time.


Is this a recognized problem or am I unique?

Bob

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Re: Fedora 10: eth1 was disabled while I was asleep...

2009-05-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Steven P. Ulrick writes:


changes could have been made to it after I went to bed last night.  More
simply put, I had perfect network connectivity from my Fedora 10 box last
night, but during the night something happened, and I can no longer
connect to the Internet.


Well, what happens when you run "ifup eth1", and/or grep for eth1 in 
/var/log/messages.





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Fedora 10: eth1 was disabled while I was asleep...

2009-05-16 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
Hello Everyone
I will get back to you with more information after I get off of work, but
this is what I have so far.

I woke up this morning and went over to our new computer (Supermicro
SuperWorkstation 5046AXB):
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/tower/5046/SYS-5046A-X.cfm

I am using the integrated network card on the "C7X58" motherboard:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Core2Duo/X58/C7X58.cfm

I built this system a few weeks ago, and networking/internet connectivity
has worked perfectly ever since.  Until this morning.
I soon discovere this morning that I was no longer connected to the
Internet.  So I power cycled the modem and then the router (waiting until
the lights were lit as normal) and the restarted the network.  It was then
that I discovered that "Device pan0" had a different MAC address than the
one that was configured.  I understand that this has something to do with
Bluetooth, so I could care less if I even had a device pan0...  Also,
after the network was restarted: "/etc/init.d/network restart" I was
informed that "pan0" and loopback were the only devices that were active.

I tried running "netstat -rn", with the result being completely blank. 
When I attempted to run "route add default gw 192.168.1.1" the result was,
in it's entirety :"SIOCADDRT: no such process"

All of the lights on my router and my modem are lit/flashing as normal. 
The other system on my network (Fedora 8) connects to the Internet
perfectly.  Also, no one but me has any access to this system, so no
changes could have been made to it after I went to bed last night.  More
simply put, I had perfect network connectivity from my Fedora 10 box last
night, but during the night something happened, and I can no longer
connect to the Internet.

Since my other Fedora system still accesses the Internet perfectly, I
don't THINK that this is an issue with my internet provider, but I'm no
expert...

Thank you for any help you can give me,
Steven P. Ulrick

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Re: How to Capture Flash Streams - (Radio Stations)

2009-05-16 Thread suvayu ali
2009/5/15 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 21:49 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I used to record (time-shift) some radio programs over the web using mmsrip
>> and mplayer (for MMS/ASF streams) but now one of my local radio stations
>> switched to a Flash stream.  Here is the current URL:
>>
>> http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/univision/?callsign=WKAQAM
>>
>> I can play this (perfectly fine) using my browser but I'm wondering if anyone
>> knows of a command-line tool that could play/grab these kind of streams? That
>> way I could automate the process and schedule the recordings just like I used
>> to do with mmsrip/mplayer thru cron.
>
> Try looking for *.flv in /tmp. Hard link the name to something else so
> the file doesn't go away when the stream finishes.
>
Actually its /tmp/Flash*

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Re: Image Viewer for Fedora 10

2009-05-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 15 May 2009 22:45:34 +0300, Jussi wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 00:32 +0500, Adeel Akbar wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > Is there any Image viewer software that have at least some of the
> > features of a software like Acdsee for Fedora Core 10
> 
> 
> I'm not sure what acdsee's capabilities are but you can try gqview.

Try its successor geeqie. The beta1 release can be found in
updates-testing.

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