date:20090623

Re: Installation FC11 failed

2009-06-23 Thread Tim

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 18:21 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> You probably didn't wait long enough.That can take a very long
> time (measured in hours).

Perhaps for an upgrade, but it shouldn't for an installation.  That
should only take a few minutes.  And unless the original poster has
written about this in another thread, I only see an installation being
mentioned.

For new installs, I usually prefer to do fairly minimal installs, then
add extra stuff on, afterwards.  You've got a better working
environment, then.  And you avoid installing stuff that needs immediate
upgrades.

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Bug in gnome, titlebar corruption when the window is wider than the display width.

2009-06-23 Thread Anuar, Nuhairi

Hi,
Do you guys notice there is 2D corruption in Gnome on Fedora 10?
When the window is stretched really long (2 or 3 time longer than the desktop), 
the title bar will be corrupted.
To reproduced it:

1)  Open any window in gnome (terminal, my computers)

2)  Drag to the left until you can see small part of the window only.

3)  Resize the window to the right as much as possible to make it a very 
wide width window.

4)  Repeat 3 or 4 time

5)  You will see the corruption.

This happen on every display driver (vesa, nvidia, iegd, intel). On every 
different hardware.


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Re: Bug in gnome, titlebar corruption when the window is wider than the display width.

2009-06-23 Thread Michael Schwendt

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:33:56 +0800, Nuhairi wrote:

> Hi,
> Do you guys notice there is 2D corruption in Gnome on Fedora 10?
> When the window is stretched really long (2 or 3 time longer than the 
> desktop), the title bar will be corrupted.
> To reproduced it:
> 
> 1)  Open any window in gnome (terminal, my computers)
> 
> 2)  Drag to the left until you can see small part of the window only.
> 
> 3)  Resize the window to the right as much as possible to make it a very 
> wide width window.
> 
> 4)  Repeat 3 or 4 time
> 
> 5)  You will see the corruption.
> 
> This happen on every display driver (vesa, nvidia, iegd, intel). On every 
> different hardware.
> 

Is it in bugzilla already?

It's reproducible with Fedora 11. And changing the theme doesn't make a
difference (as opposed to the scrollbar corruption issue, bz #506671).

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Dual screen / Xinerama

2009-06-23 Thread Gary Stainburn

Hi folks,

I've got on this topic before and also done a load more googling but I still 
haven't got an answer.

I have a FC10 / WinXP system at home with a NVidia GForce 9600 card in it. 
Attached to it I have 2 19" screens.

In WinXP everything works fine. I have the left screen as the main one and can 
open and drag windows between the two screens with ease.

However, in FC10 all I can manage to do is to get both screens to have the 
content which is of course no use.

My research points to me needing to use Xinerama. However, that same research 
indicates that this is no longer supported being replaced by another project 
which then itself got dropped.

Is this true? 
If not, does anyone have SIMPLE instructions on how to set it up
If yes, is there an alternative system I could use?

Cheers
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Re: F11 upgrade - worse than Windows

2009-06-23 Thread Simon Andrews


Timothy Murphy wrote:

I'm trying to upgrade a Thinkpad T23 (with preupgrade) from F10.
Everything went fine until "Finishing upgrade process",
which has been running now for 14 hours,
with that ghastly imitation-Windows yo-yo swinging from side to side.

I am told, "This may take a little while" !!!

Please, this is Linux.
Tell us what is happening,
and show us what progress is being made.


I saw this too (but not for that long).  Going into a shell I saw that 
anaconda was only taking ~2%CPU and that my load averages were low and 
that no significant data was coming in over the network, so I'm not sure 
what is happening over this time.


It might be worth filing a bug about this since it doesn't seem right 
that the computer sits in an idle state for so long at the end of the 
install.  I suspect that it should be a lot quicker than this and that 
on some systems something takes ages to time out.


Simon.


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Re: NFS4 home mounts owned by nfsnobody

2009-06-23 Thread John Austin

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 18:38 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> I'm trying to set up automounting of home directories using NFS4 and 
> autofs.  I seem to have it working except that all of the files in the 
> mounted directories have their owner and group set to "nfsnobody".
> 
> /etc/exports on the server looks like this:
> 
> /exports *(ro,fsid=0)
> /exports/share *(rw,sync,nohide)
> /exports/home *(rw,insecure,sync,nohide)
> 
> /etc/auto.home on the client looks like this:
> 
> braden-fstype=nfs4hinge:/home/braden
> 
> 
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>    Jabber: 
> 

Hi

I had the same problem (F11)
The cure for me was to ensure that the name of the local machine (naxos) is
available to "mount"
Putting the name in /etc/hosts on naxos does the job

naxos ~ 2# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 
naxos
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6

It is not good enough that hostname is set

My advice would be to reboot after adding the name to /etc/hosts
(assuming its missing) I wasted hours stopping and starting rpcidmapd type 
services
before discovering I had fixed the problem in the first 5 minutes
but that a clean restart was needed !

/etc/host.conf has changed in F11 I played with this as
well but don't think its relevant
multi on
order hosts,bind

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my files look like this

maui.jaa.org.uk ~ 1# cat /etc/exports
/exports
148.197.29.0/24(rw,insecure,sync,wdelay,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash,fsid=0)
/exports/global 
148.197.29.0/24(rw,insecure,sync,wdelay,no_subtree_check,nohide,no_root_squash)
/exports/home   
148.197.29.0/24(rw,insecure,sync,wdelay,no_subtree_check,nohide,no_root_squash)

maui.jaa.org.uk ~ 2# cat /etc/fstab
...
LABEL=global_maui   /global ext3defaults
1 2
LABEL=boot_maui /boot   ext3defaults
1 2
...
/home   /exports/home   none bind0 0
/global /exports/global none bind0 0
---
maui.jaa.org.uk ~ 4# cat /etc/auto.master
...
/home   auto.home
/-  auto.direct
--
maui.jaa.org.uk ~ 4# cat /etc/auto.home
#*  -fstype=nfs 148.197.29.5:/exports/home/&
*   -fstype=nfs4,rsize=32768,wsize=32768148.197.29.5:/home/&
--
maui.jaa.org.uk ~ 5# cat /etc/auto.direct
#/global-fstype=nfs  148.197.29.5:/exports/global
/global-fstype=nfs4  148.197.29.5:/global

Note the # commented nfs3 lines

Hope this helps

John


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Re: Dual screen / Xinerama

2009-06-23 Thread Anthony Messina

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:40:59 am Gary Stainburn wrote:
> I've got on this topic before and also done a load more googling but I
> still haven't got an answer.
>
> I have a FC10 / WinXP system at home with a NVidia GForce 9600 card in it.
> Attached to it I have 2 19" screens.
>
> In WinXP everything works fine. I have the left screen as the main one and
> can open and drag windows between the two screens with ease.
>
> However, in FC10 all I can manage to do is to get both screens to have the
> content which is of course no use.
>
> My research points to me needing to use Xinerama. However, that same
> research indicates that this is no longer supported being replaced by
> another project which then itself got dropped.
>
> Is this true?
> If not, does anyone have SIMPLE instructions on how to set it up
> If yes, is there an alternative system I could use?

I use the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. As my monitors are not exactly the 
same size, note that you'd probably need to edit the "PreferredMode" Option.  
I included those modes explicitly as one of my monitors was defaulting to a 
crappier resolution that what it could handle.

This works for me in F10 and F11 with the open source nouveau driver.

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
Option  "AIGLX" "off"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "DVI-I-0"
Option   "LeftOf" "VGA-0"
Option   "PreferredMode" "1680x1050"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "VGA-0"
Option   "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"
Option   "DPMS" "Off"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier  "Device0"
Driver  "nouveau"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Device0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection

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Re: two F11 issues

2009-06-23 Thread fred smith

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 02:41:51PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote:
> On 06/22/2009 11:55 AM, fred smith wrote:
> >...
> >2) printing anything to my Brother HL2070N laser printer prints only one
> >line of garbage at the bottom of the page, then nothing else. Or else the
> >job sits in the queue forever without printing
> 
> Same problem here with that printer on my little network. It was working 
> perfectly for me in f9 using ipp and the hl1250 driver.
> 
> I could never get it to work with f11--same results you describe. The 
> wedged state seems to accompany a driver problem of some sort: I get 
> cryptic errors saying "/usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp failed' in the printer 
> config dialog, or "[Job 12] Job stopped due to filter errors..." in the 
> CUPS log.
> 
> The only way I got it to work was to install the driver and lpd bridge 
> from the Brother Linux support site. Not a very satisfying solution, and 
> there are still glitches with it (routine, erroneous "paper out" 
> condition), but at least I can print again.
> 
> I don't feel like I understand enough of what's happening or what's 
> /supposed/ to happen to even file a useful bug report--which is now the 
> case for huge chunks of desktop Linux, but that's a whole 'nother whine.
> 
> 

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Re: two F11 issues

2009-06-23 Thread fred smith

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:18:30PM -0400, Tait Clarridge wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> > 
> > F11 live cd, booting from USB on a eeepc 901 (20 gig model).
> > 
> > boots fine, pretty much everything works fine.
> > 
> > But...
> > 1) sound volume is so low as to be nearly inaudible. I've cranked up every
> > mixer/volume control I can find, including alsamixer. I know that in F10, 
> > doing
> > that worked--every new kernel on f10 would reset alsamixer to 50%, and I'd
> > have to go reset it. But F11 seems to be different. Clues pls?
> 
> Unfortunately this will not work with the Live CD, but if you installed the 
> Live CD to your hard drive I am sure it will work. At least it did for me on 
> my 1000HE.
> 
> You might want to try setting the options for the snd-hda-intel module.
> 
> For my EEE-1000HE I created the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put 
> the following lines:
> 
> options snd-hda-intel model=quanta
> 
> This broke my onboard microphones, but it made the sound much better.
> 
> What you can try is the following:
> 
> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep Codec
> 
> Then look on this site 
> http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt 
> for your model.
> 
> For example, on my current Laptop the above command gives me
> 
> Codec: Realtek ALC268
> 
> So on the site I scroll down to the ALC267/268 section and I see the 
> following:
> 
> 66ALC267/268
> 67==
> 68  quanta-il1Quanta IL1 mini-notebook
> 69  3stack3-stack model
> 70  toshiba   Toshiba A205
> 71  acer  Acer laptops
> 72  acer-dmic Acer laptops with digital-mic
> 73  acer-aspire   Acer Aspire One
> 74  dell  Dell OEM laptops (Vostro 1200)
> 75  zepto Zepto laptops
> 76  test  for testing/debugging purpose, almost all controls can
> 77adjusted.  Appearing only when compiled with
> 78$CONFIG_SND_DEBUG=y
> 79  auto  auto-config reading BIOS (default)
> 
> Since my laptop is a Toshiba, I use the toshiba model option so the line in 
> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf looks like:
> 
> options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
> 
> I think for you the model will be ALC269 so you can try either of the 
> following (replace "toshiba" from the above line with one of the options 
> below):
> 
> basic
> quanta
> eeepc-p703
> eeepc-p901
> fujitsu
> 
> When I was doing my eee 1000HE the quanta model would give me much louder 
> sound and the headphone sensing would still work.
> 
> Just remember that you might want to reboot when making changes, I never had 
> much success with unloading the module and then modprobing it with the proper 
> option.
> 
> Trial and error is your friend!
> 
> Let me know how it goes. I wrote a blog entry about it here: 
> http://www.taiter.com/blog/2009/05/eee-pc-1000he-tips.html 

Tait:

Thanks for all the info. I'll letyou know once I've had a chance to mess
with it.

Fred
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Re: Error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Greshko

William M. Quarles wrote:
> Tony Nelson wrote:
>> On 09-06-22 17:49:47, William M. Quarles wrote:
>>> Tony Nelson wrote:
 On 09-06-22 04:36:52, William M. Quarles wrote:
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> William M. Quarles-2 wrote:
  ...
>>> OK, yes, I know this technically shouldn't work but a hack or
>>> two on thescripts that start Maple 7 and installing
>>> compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-135 from Fedora Core 5 make it work I
>>> understand.
>> Possibly packages compat-libstdc++-33 and libXp may be needed?
> Did you read the error message that I had posted? The files that
> cannot be found are from glibc-2.9-3, yet they are installed.
 Possibly it is a library search path problem?  See `man ldconfig`
 and ld.so.conf and ld.so.conf.d/.

>>> I think that you are right, but I'm not exactly sure what to do about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I ran '/sbin/ldconfig', no help. I tried adding /usr/local/lib/ to
>>> that command line in order to be sure that my relocated compat
>>> libraries were found.
>>>
>>> [r...@quarlewm2 bin]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf
>>> include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
>>  ...
>>
>> FWIW, when I needed to I just added "/usr/local/lib" at the top of
>> /etc/ld.so.conf, like the various files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/, and
>> then ran `ldconfig` (no options or paths).
>>
>
> I don't know what "FWIW" means (for what it's worth?), but thanks for
> the info. However, the error message "dirname: error while loading
> shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such
> file or directory" still appears no matter what I try. Also since this
> error started, I cannot get Gnome-Package-Kit Application
> (gpk-application) to get past "Waiting for service to start" once I
> have told it which packages to install.
>
> Peace,
> William
>
If you know what binary is issuing the error message you can

readelf -d  | grep RPATH

to determine the library path of the binary.

I've also found that "ldd -v " is helpful in tracking down
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Re: F11 libvirt / KVM (or virt-manager) iptables firewall setup

2009-06-23 Thread Ian Pilcher

Patrick Mansfield wrote:
> How do I modify the libvirt iptables/firewall setup?

My personal preference is to simply delete any symlinks under
/etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/autostart.  You will have to set up all of
your virtual networks (/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-... files),
firewall rules, and dnsmasq configuration manually.

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Re: Dual screen / Xinerama

2009-06-23 Thread François Patte

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Le 23/06/2009 10:40, Gary Stainburn a écrit :
> Hi folks,
> 
> I've got on this topic before and also done a load more googling but I still 
> haven't got an answer.
> 
> I have a FC10 / WinXP system at home with a NVidia GForce 9600 card in it.


Install the nvidia proprietary driver

yum install akmod-nvidia

With the dependencies, you will find a graphic tool: nvidia-display-settings

It will help you.


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Re: Dual screen / Xinerama

2009-06-23 Thread Eric Mesa

> --
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:40:59 +0100
> From: Gary Stainburn 
> Subject: Dual screen / Xinerama
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,   and advice for using
>Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <200906230940.59411.gary.stainb...@ringways.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've got on this topic before and also done a load more googling but I
> still
> haven't got an answer.
>
> I have a FC10 / WinXP system at home with a NVidia GForce 9600 card in it.
> Attached to it I have 2 19" screens.
>
> In WinXP everything works fine. I have the left screen as the main one and
> can
> open and drag windows between the two screens with ease.
>
> However, in FC10 all I can manage to do is to get both screens to have the
> content which is of course no use.
>
> My research points to me needing to use Xinerama. However, that same
> research
> indicates that this is no longer supported being replaced by another
> project
> which then itself got dropped.
>
> Is this true?
> If not, does anyone have SIMPLE instructions on how to set it up
> If yes, is there an alternative system I could use?
>
> Cheers
> Gary
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>
>
Gary,

Use Twinview.  I do this with Fedora 10 and it works perfectly.

Step 1:  Install nvidia proprietary drivers from rpm-fusion
Step 2: Run nvidia-settings -  I don't remember the name of the problem
because Gnome Do always fills it in for me, but it's pretty obvious
Step 3:  Click on the second entry on the left
Step 4:  Click on the "disabled" monitor
Step 5:  Click on Configure (or something like that - I'm not in front of my
machine now)
Step 6:  Click Twinview
Step 7:  Set that monitor as "left of" or "right of" the other
Step 8:  Click Apply
Step 9:  Click OK to keep the settings
Step 10:  Quit the nvidia program

If you want to not have to repeat those 10 steps every time you log in, you
need to write the settings to your Xorg.conf, but I don't remember how to do
that off the top of my head.  It also means you have to run the nvidia
program as root so that yuo can write to Xorg.conf

Can't get any SIMPLER than that.
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Anyone synce(d) on F10/F11?

2009-06-23 Thread NoSpaze

Hi. HTC Touch new (2 days), WM6. But I can't sync! Not with synce-hal
nor vdccm/odccm. Both options (on both distros) throw something about
the name:

# pls
** (process:14324): CRITICAL **: synce_info_from_hal: Failed to obtain property 
pda.pocketpc.name for device 
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_bb4_ce_3fbf5000_7351_0801_1209_129bfb6003f8_if0_serial_usb_0:
 org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchProperty: No property pda.pocketpc.name on device 
with id 
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_bb4_ce_3fbf5000_7351_0801_1209_129bfb6003f8_if0_serial_usb_0
** (process:14324): WARNING **: synce_info_from_odccm: Failed to get devices: 
The name org.synce.odccm was not provided by any .service files
pls: Could not find configuration at path '(Default)'

# lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 011: ID 0bb4:00ce High Tech Computer Corp. mmO2 XDA 
GSM/GPRS Pocket PC
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 049f:000e Compaq Computer Corp. Internet Keyboard
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 15d9:0a33  
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

# tail -40 /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf 

...

  

Any tips are really welcome :)

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Minor dovecot/KMail problem

2009-06-23 Thread Rex Dieter

Gary Greene wrote:

> On 6/20/09 5:43 AM, "Timothy Murphy"

>> But I have worked out that the cause of the problem
>> is that there exists a kind of ghost folder, "uidvalidity",
>> which is listed among the folders on the kmail page
>> but does not in fact seem to exist in my maildir on the server.
>> 
>> Deleting the folder under kmail has no permanent effect;
>> it simply re-appears when I re-start kmail.
>> 
>> I assume the folder is listed in some way in the dovecot.index ;
>> and my question really is: if I delete this index file
>> will it be re-created automatically?
>> 
>> This bug/feature seems to have been present for years,
>> which I suppose is par for KDE.

Years?  Bugs filed?  If so, where?

Could very well simply be a bug in dovecot and/or incompatibility between
dovecot/kmail.

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Re: F11 SELinux Squid & port 2082

2009-06-23 Thread Daniel J Walsh


On 06/23/2009 01:37 AM, Mark Panen wrote:

Hi

It is impossible for me to reach a web page that uses port 2082
through squid as SELinux keeps blocking it. If i bypass squid i can
reach the web page.

How do i configure SELinux to allow port 2082 ?

Mark



One of two ways, you can either allow squid to connect to any port by 
turning on the squid_connect_any boolean


setsebool -P squid_connect_any 1

Or you can tell SELinux port 2082 is an http port

semanage port -a -t http_port_t 2082


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Re: Output of "yum list installed"

2009-06-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 15:47 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:43:28 -0430
> "Patrick O'Callaghan"  wrote:
> 
> ...snip...
> 
> > This is all fascinating, but what I come away with is "yum has a
> > complex set of rules for color-coding its output, but the developers
> > can't be bothered documenting them".
> 
> Does 'man yum.conf' and searching for 'color' not have the
> documentation you are looking for?

You're absolutely right. I naively thought that info on colourizing the
output of yum would be in the man page for yum, while in fact that page
simply mentions that you can "colorize" the output but doesn't say what
it means, nor that further info is in the yum.conf man page.

All the same, thanks for the tip.

poc

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Re: Output of "yum list installed"

2009-06-23 Thread Anne Wilson

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 14:40:20 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> You're absolutely right. I naively thought that info on colourizing the
> output of yum would be in the man page for yum, while in fact that page
> simply mentions that you can "colorize" the output but doesn't say what
> it means, nor that further info is in the yum.conf man page.

That's another advantage of reading man pages in konqueror.  As you start to 
type the name in you see a list of all related man pages (name-related, that 
is).

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OT: Dual Pentium III, good enough for current 2.6 kernel linux?

2009-06-23 Thread Fernando Cassia

I´m contemplating what to do with one of my old desktops which is a
dual Pentium III, 650Mhz, with 1 Gig of RAM and
ATA-33 hard disk controller, plus two Elsa Gloria Synergy 8MB PCI
video adapters (video chipset? I don´t even remember) for a
dual-display config.

Would Fedora 11 run OK in such a system. I´m afraid Gnome might eat a
lot of the cpu horsepower available, just for eye candy...

Or perhaps it´s best to leave it running as-is as a museum piece with
its current OS/2 4.52 (WSeB) with SMP kernel? ;-)

Upgrading it to the fastest possible CPUs has circled my mind, but I
don´t think it´d be worth investing a single extra penny in this
system.

If I remember correctly the highest CPU that could be installed on
this system were 1Ghz Pentium III but with a 100Mhz FSB and 10x
multiplier.
However those CPUs were hard to come by even at the time (1999), as
most were 133Mhz bus already.

So I don´t even know how likely it´d be today to find a pair of 1Ghz
512K cache - 100 Mhz bus PIII cpus with matching Stepping ID.

Perhaps I should just throw it out the window and get a $250 netbook
which @ 1.6 Ghz will give me better performance than this anvil?.

The thought of selling it as metal scrap by the pound / kilogram also
has circled my mind...
FC

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Re: Output of "yum list installed"

2009-06-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 14:47 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 June 2009 14:40:20 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > You're absolutely right. I naively thought that info on colourizing the
> > output of yum would be in the man page for yum, while in fact that page
> > simply mentions that you can "colorize" the output but doesn't say what
> > it means, nor that further info is in the yum.conf man page.
> 
> That's another advantage of reading man pages in konqueror.  As you start to 
> type the name in you see a list of all related man pages (name-related, that 
> is).

Not really. I knew already that yum.conf had its own man page. What I
didn't realize is that I needed to look there for info on colours.
Judging by the various hypotheses put forward in this thread I suspect
that I'm not the only one.

In fact if I used one of the desktop search engines I might have saved
myself and everyone else the bother, but I still haven't come across one
that worked reliably and didn't eat all my cpu. Admittedly it has been
quite a while since I tried.

poc

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Re: F11 upgrade - worse than Windows

2009-06-23 Thread Roberto Ragusa

Simon Andrews wrote:
> I saw this too (but not for that long).  Going into a shell I saw that
> anaconda was only taking ~2%CPU and that my load averages were low and
> that no significant data was coming in over the network, so I'm not sure
> what is happening over this time.

I may be wrong, but I noticed in a previous upgrade that in that
phase the machine is disk-limited as it is executing a great
quantity of sync() functions, related to the rpm database.

I would really like a simple way to turn the sync() stuff off
when doing an upgrade.
I know I know, it is dangerous and "libeatmydata" etc., but
an upgrade is already considered a risk by me, so I always backup
before upgrading; at that point, I would kick the sync() stuff
out of the way very happily.

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x86_64 install fails, i386 install works, but ubuntu fixes all

2009-06-23 Thread B Wooster

Summary - based on the Fedora docs, I started with x86_64 install for
a Core 2 Duo system, with NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i Chipset,
IDE CD/DVD, and SATA hard drive.

Seems like the packaging of x86_64 is different from i386 in terms of
supported drivers - i386 is much better at recognizing the drivers?

This is for a GIGABYTE GA-73PVM-S2
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2734&ProductName=GA-73PVM-S2

All installs were using ISO image, burned to DVD.
Fedora 11 x86_64: right after booting, it shows problems. It starts a
text-install, so it has failed to recognize the video. Then, after
selecting English, it asks for Install mode, I pick CD/DVD, and it
then says "no driver found". I manually select pata_amd (see i386
below), but immediately get back into the "no driver found" so this
is now an infinite loop, can't hit F12 to get to next screen, no way
to quit, have to hit CTRL-ALT-DEL.
I then retried this, using Network install
(ftp://local-computer/). This proceeds fine - in text mode. So it
did at least get the network "forcedeth" driver correct.
But of course, after the install is done, it fails to start X - I did
not note down the error, so all I have now is a text login.

Then I tried the i386 install. This sails through with no trouble.
Automatically finds CD/DVD drive, does the install in VGA mode, and
after install, X works just fine.
Then, I tried to make DVD playback work - followed all instructions
for libdvdcss, xine, totem, etc, but no luck - cannot play DVDs,
something about MPEG codec not found.

Finally, I decided to try a different distribution.
Chose Kubuntu 9.04 amd64 (basically Ubuntu, basically debian). This
64-bit install worked like the i386 Fedora install - all smooth.
(Though Fedora install was more aesthetically pleasing! Nicer
graphics/prompts, better feedback).

Kubuntu first-boot was smooth - it popped up a window "hardware driver
upgrade", which was required to get into full 1600x1200 mode on my
display, to install the proprietary nvidia drivers. DVDs played back
too! Dragon Player asked to download required files, and everything
just worked. This was amazing - much smoother experience than Fedora
11 x86_64

Hope this helps anyone else struggling with Fedora - after 10 years of
Fedora, I think I'm going to stick with Ubuntu for now, but might be
back when I have time to try Fedora 13 or some such version, hoping
that all these problems may be fixed by then.

I may have time to try one more re-install - so if anyone has tips on
how to make x86_64 install work, please post.

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Broadcom BCM43XX Nightmarte on F11

2009-06-23 Thread Christopher A. Williams

I have a couple of laptops I've been working on that I have not been
able to get WiFi to come up on at all.

Both of them have the Broadcom BC43XX series adapters. One of them is a
Gateway MX6030 laptop equipped with a Broadcom BCM4318 adapter and the
other is a Dell Inspiron e1705 with a BCM4311 adapter.

In each case, the default F11 B43 drivers simply don't work at all. I
also have tried the kmod-wl / broadcom-wl drivers from RPM Fusion. No
Dice.

This is really starting to irritate me It's almost to the point that
I'm ready to rip these adapters out of these machines and replace them
with Intel ones if I can find some that will fit.

What needs to happen to have Broadcom's goofy hardware to behave and
actually work using F11?

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Re: OT: Dual Pentium III, good enough for current 2.6 kernel linux?

2009-06-23 Thread Tim

On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:52 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> I´m contemplating what to do with one of my old desktops which is a
> dual Pentium III, 650Mhz, with 1 Gig of RAM and ATA-33 hard disk
> controller, plus two Elsa Gloria Synergy 8MB PCI video adapters

Do you have a network of computers?  Sometimes a command-line only box
is useful to test networks.  Then there's using a low powered box to run
various low powered services (DNS, DHCP, non-database webserving,
jukebox fileserver, etc.).

I have something even worse than that as a DNS, HTTP, DHCP, NTP, mail,
and central fileserver.  Albeit still running a very old version of
Fedora.  I've thought about shifting it to CentOS, to avoid using an out
of date server, or repeatedly having to update a server (which can be a
pain).

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Re: OT: Dual Pentium III, good enough for current 2.6 kernel linux?

2009-06-23 Thread Tom Horsley

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:52:39 -0300
Fernando Cassia wrote:

> plus two Elsa Gloria Synergy 8MB PCI
> video adapters (video chipset? I don´t even remember) for a
> dual-display config.

I was running a dual PIII with about the same specs not
too long ago. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't really
peppy either. The biggest problem is likely to be the
video. There are so many older video cards no longer
supported by the shipped xorg. You might want to try
a livecd and see if it can talk to the video.

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Re: OT: Dual Pentium III, good enough for current 2.6 kernel linux?

2009-06-23 Thread Fernando Cassia

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:52:39 -0300
> Fernando Cassia wrote:
>
>> plus two Elsa Gloria Synergy 8MB PCI
>> video adapters (video chipset? I don´t even remember) for a
>> dual-display config.
>
> I was running a dual PIII with about the same specs not
> too long ago. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't really
> peppy either. The biggest problem is likely to be the
> video. There are so many older video cards no longer
> supported by the shipped xorg. You might want to try
> a livecd and see if it can talk to the video.

Thanks... for some reason I didn´t think of the LiveCD approach...

FC

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