Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Matthew
Woehlkemw_tr...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 So... 60% smooth sailing rate isn't terrible, especially since I /was/
 able to reassemble all the pieces I got to keep without too much trouble.
...
 The problem with preupgrade is that it needs user interaction and a
...

Just wanted to remind people that the original context of this thread
is XO deployments.

It has to be as close to 100% failsafe as possible, completely
unattended, minimize disk space usage and network traffic...

cheers,



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Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-25 Thread Simon Andrews

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Simon Andrews wrote:

I don't see the problem with forcing the use of these packages during an
upgrade regardless of what versions were on the original system.  You'd
be left with a functional system


Not really. Things like KDE config files processed by kconf_update, Firefox
profiles, Amarok databases etc. will have been converted to the format
expected by the new version, downgrading is not supported by upstream and
the old version may thus not work or lose some settings.


Surely these aren't the kind of updates which should be applied within a 
release cycle anyway?  A new release is the time you'd expect to get a 
major revision of this sort.




So, just to be clear here.  Anyone who either has no network connection
or whose network connection is too slow to support downloading
potentially hundreds of megs up updates isn't going to be able to
upgrade any more?


Fedora effectively requires a fast network connection for the regular
updates anyway.


Really?  I've installed Fedora for several people who don't have a 
decent network connection and have taken updates on a USB stick at 
intervals.  I'm sure there's plenty of the world where install disks are 
passed round.


Even where you do have a fast network connection there can still be 
problems:


1) All of our servers have to access the internet via a proxy.  At least 
within the Anaconda UI there doesn't appear to be any support for 
configuring proxies so I'm forced into kickstart / shells / extra boot 
options to upgrade?


2) At home I have a cap on how much I can download except for an 
unlimited window overnight (midnight - 6am I think).  Do I now have to 
wait up to upgrade my machines rather than doing the initial upgrade 
from media and then picking up updates automatically the next night?


Making a media based upgrade unsupported is going to be a pain for an 
awful lot of people.


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Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/25/2009 01:37 PM, Simon Andrews wrote:

 
 1) All of our servers have to access the internet via a proxy.  At least
 within the Anaconda UI there doesn't appear to be any support for
 configuring proxies so I'm forced into kickstart / shells / extra boot
 options to upgrade?

Do you have a RFE filed on this?

Rahul

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Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Jeu 25 juin 2009 10:07, Simon Andrews a écrit :

 1) All of our servers have to access the internet via a proxy.  At
 least
 within the Anaconda UI there doesn't appear to be any support for
 configuring proxies so I'm forced into kickstart / shells / extra boot
 options to upgrade?

BTW, this is one thing Intel's Connexion Manager designed right (apart
from the focus on a working cli interface from the start up) : make
HTTP/DNS caching/proxiing a core system-wide property, and not
something exotic that needs to be bolted on afterwards.

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beagle

2009-06-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
* Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 beagle-owner AT fedoraproject DOT org

 Recipient address rejected:
 User unknown in local recipient table (state 14).

* https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name  shows more than a
dozen people on watchcommit+commit, but no package owner. It's an orphan.

* https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs  shows more than a
dozen open tickets, but nobody is subscribed to watchbugzilla.

* yum list beagle shows beagle-0.3.9-6.fc11 in fedora.

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Re: beagle

2009-06-25 Thread SmootherFrOgZ
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.comwrote:

 * Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 beagle-owner AT fedoraproject DOT org

 Recipient address rejected:
 User unknown in local recipient table (state 14).

 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name  shows more than a
 dozen people on watchcommit+commit, but no package owner. It's an orphan.

 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs  shows more than a
 dozen open tickets, but nobody is subscribed to watchbugzilla.

 * yum list beagle shows beagle-0.3.9-6.fc11 in fedora.



Unfortunetely yes,
It has been orphaned few days ago and no one took it over.
=
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software raid devices automatically getting checked ?

2009-06-25 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi,

My F11 machine spontaneously started checking the software raid devices:

Jun 25 03:06:13 ana pcscd: winscard.c:309:SCardConnect() Reader E-Gate 0
0 Not Found
Jun 25 03:26:02 ana kernel: md: data-check of RAID array md0
Jun 25 03:26:02 ana kernel: md: minimum _guaranteed_  speed: 1000
KB/sec/disk.
Jun 25 03:26:02 ana kernel: md: using maximum available idle IO
bandwidth (but not more than 20 KB/sec) for data-check.
Jun 25 03:26:02 ana kernel: md: using 128k window, over a total of
208704 blocks.
Jun 25 03:26:02 ana kernel: md: delaying data-check of md1 until md0 has
finished (they share one or more physical units)
Jun 25 03:26:12 ana kernel: md: md0: data-check done.
Jun 25 03:26:12 ana kernel: md: data-check of RAID array md1
Jun 25 03:26:12 ana kernel: md: minimum _guaranteed_  speed: 1000
KB/sec/disk.
Jun 25 03:26:12 ana kernel: md: using maximum available idle IO
bandwidth (but not more than 20 KB/sec) for data-check.
Jun 25 03:26:12 ana kernel: md: using 128k window, over a total of
974446592 blocks.


This is a check, not a resync, as can be seen here:
md1 : active raid1 sdb3[0] sda3[1]
  974446592 blocks [2/2] [UU]
  [==..]  check = 92.9% (905802048/974446592)
finish=45.0min speed=25419K/sec
  

All my googling only turns up posts from Ubuntu/Debian where there is a
cron job script to check the raid devices every first Sunday of the
month.  There is no such cron job configured on Fedora.

Anyone know what would have triggered this ? There are no other related
messages in the kernel log, and this has never happened to me before
F-11.

Thanks
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Re: software raid devices automatically getting checked ?

2009-06-25 Thread Mogens Kjaer

On 06/25/2009 12:28 PM, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:
...

All my googling only turns up posts from Ubuntu/Debian where there is a
cron job script to check the raid devices every first Sunday of the
month.  There is no such cron job configured on Fedora.


I have a /etc/cron.weekly/raid-check file in F11, installed from
the mdadm package.

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Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Simon Andrews simon.andr...@bbsrc.ac.uk said:
 1) All of our servers have to access the internet via a proxy.  At least 
 within the Anaconda UI there doesn't appear to be any support for 
 configuring proxies so I'm forced into kickstart / shells / extra boot 
 options to upgrade?

IIRC you have to do it on a repo by repo basis.  At the selection
screen, when the active repos are listed in the bottom half, you can
click on a repo and configure proxy settings there (again IIRC).

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rawhide report: 20090625 changes

2009-06-25 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Jun 25 06:15:04 UTC 2009

New package grubby
Command line tool for updating bootloader configs
New package mux
GTK+ widgets for moblin
New package perl-Tk-Stderr
Capture standard error output, display in separate window for Perl::Tk
New package rubygem-allison
A modern, pretty RDoc template
Updated Packages:

OpenSceneGraph-2.8.1-1.fc12
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- Upstream update.
- Reflect upstream having consolidated their Source0:-URL.
- Stop supporting OSG  2.6.0.


barry-0.15-0.6.20090623git.fc12
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0.15-0.6.20090623git
- version/git bump
- added configure --with-zlib


bind-9.6.1-2.fc12
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- improved chroot automount patches (#504596)
- host should fail if specified server doesn't respond (#507469)


curl-7.19.5-4.fc12
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- exclude curlbuild.h content from spec (#504857)

* Wed Jun 24 2009 Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com 7.19.5-4
- fix bug introduced by the last build (#504857)


emacs-23.0.93-4.fc12

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- added xorg-x11-fonts-misc to dependencies (#469220)


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- move intl/ and po/ to base package for gettextize
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gimmix-0.5.6.1-1.fc12
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- version upgrade


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0.04.6-1
- Update to 0.04.6 (build system uses waf now)
- License is GPLv2+
- Add missing Requires: ladspa


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- Set disc media for disc page sizes (bug #495672).


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- Resolves: rhbz#507829 fortify fixes


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- add support for load average to makehistory(#276061)
- update faq, ship it in %doc
- fix typo in filelist


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- implement YMSG 16 protocol to allow logging into Yahoo! again (upstream patch)


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- 2.6.30-git22

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- config changes:
 - generic:
  - CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG=m (was off, requested by davidz)

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- Move perf to /usr/libexec/perf-$KernelVer.

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 - generic:
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Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Simon Andrews simon.andr...@bbsrc.ac.uk said:
 Can anaconda handle wireless network connections for upgrades?

I think it can, for the NICs supported out-of-the-box.  I haven't tried
it, but I know my wireless NIC shows up on my notebook.

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Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-25 Thread Seth Vidal



On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Simon Andrews wrote:


Not really. Things like KDE config files processed by kconf_update, Firefox
profiles, Amarok databases etc. will have been converted to the format
expected by the new version, downgrading is not supported by upstream and
the old version may thus not work or lose some settings.


Surely these aren't the kind of updates which should be applied within a 
release cycle anyway?  A new release is the time you'd expect to get a major 
revision of this sort.



No. Not always and that sort of thing is up to the maintainer.



2) At home I have a cap on how much I can download except for an unlimited 
window overnight (midnight - 6am I think).  Do I now have to wait up to 
upgrade my machines rather than doing the initial upgrade from media and then 
picking up updates automatically the next night?


Well you should definitely install yum-presto so you can save a lot of 
bandwidth.


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Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 00:48 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:

 Atom systems are frequently battery powered, so improvements there can
 also to increased battery life.  P4, OTOH, already requires a locally
 installed atomic power plant so energy isn't an issue there.

There were actually some P4 laptops. They tended to be very large (to
contain the required power and cooling) and have a battery life measured
in minutes. They probably should also have come with heavy-duty lap heat
protectors...

I doubt anyone who ever bought such a beast expected any kind of usable
lengthy battery-powered operation out of it, though.
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Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-25 Thread Clemens Eisserer
 There were actually some P4 laptops. They tended to be very large (to
 contain the required power and cooling) and have a battery life measured
 in minutes. They probably should also have come with heavy-duty lap heat
 protectors...

I had a HP xe4500, with a P4M-1.6ghz, and its battery lasted 3 hours.
(was 4000mA/h, 14,8V)
Thats longer than my Core2Duo based thosiba laptop, which is a
buissness-class machine.

Even found a review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/hp-omnibook-xe4500-pentium/4505-3121_7-20001966.html

So yes the P4 was a horrible CPU, however when it came to heat/battery
I didn't miss a thing with this laptop.

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Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-25 Thread Mary Ellen Foster
2009/6/25 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
 There were actually some P4 laptops. They tended to be very large (to
 contain the required power and cooling) and have a battery life measured
 in minutes. They probably should also have come with heavy-duty lap heat
 protectors...

 I doubt anyone who ever bought such a beast expected any kind of usable
 lengthy battery-powered operation out of it, though.

Oh my God, I had one of those a few years ago -- it was a BEAST and
sounded like a jet engine taking off. Then it committed motherboard
suicide just before I was going to use it to present slides for a
medium-important talk. Don't miss it at all. :)

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Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:05 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

 The
 problem with preupgrade is that it needs user interaction and a lot of
 space. It downloads the distro update locally, reboots the machine and
 then runs anaconda.

Well, as yum doesn't group transactions, yum upgrades also require a lot
of space (enough to store the entire set of upgrade packages, as they're
_all_ downloaded prior to the operation).
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(A)synchronous file operations xdg-open

2009-06-25 Thread Jerry James
This came up in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472402 but
is worth a more general discussion amongst the developer community, I
think.

The xdg-open tool is generally a good thing for the users, but at
least a couple of cases have arisen where it is not doing the right
thing.  The problem seems to be that there are two modes of operation
that are wanted.

(1) Launch a tool that can display a persistent URL.  This can be
asynchronous, since the object identified by the URL isn't going away.

(2) Launch a tool that can display or edit a temporary file.  This
must be synchronous, since the entity that created the temporary file
needs to read it after it is edited, and remove it in either case.

xdg-open is being used for both cases.  Some of the tools it invokes,
such as gnome-open, operate in mode 1 and some (kfmclient?) in mode 2.
 When a mode 1 tool is used in a situation that demands a mode 2 tool,
bad things happen (see also
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435107).

It appears to me that we either need to split xdg-open into two tools,
representing the two modes of operation, or else give xdg-open a
command-line switch to demand synchronous operation.  We also need to
figure out which tools it invokes that operate in mode 1 and find mode
2 equivalents for them.  What do you think?
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Re: more debugging enabled in rawhide kernels.

2009-06-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:08:40PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
 In tomorrows rawhide kernel, I've enabled a debugging option
 called kmemleak. As the name suggests, this tracks memory allocations,
 and prints backtraces in cases where the memory is believed to be lost.

As a general comment, I see many backtraces when I run the libguestfs
testsuite.  Most are harmless, in that they don't appear to affect the
running of programs, so I don't report them.  But is it helpful to
report these?  If so how - open BZs for each variation that I see?

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Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-25 Thread Matthew Woehlke

Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:05 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

The problem with preupgrade is that it needs user interaction and a
lot of space. It downloads the distro update locally, reboots the
machine and then runs anaconda.


Well, as yum doesn't group transactions, yum upgrades also require a lot
of space (enough to store the entire set of upgrade packages, as they're
_all_ downloaded prior to the operation).


...if you just run 'yum upgrade' and not 'yum upgrade list'. I don't 
know that I've /ever/ done all-at-once, if only because of more risk of 
the transaction taking so long that something bad happens (e.g. power 
failure). F10 - F11 was just especially bad due to all of KDE needing 
to be upgraded in order to upgrade yum (due to openssl deps).


The trick, as I've discovered, is not to reboot in between chunks ;-).

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Re: doubt regarding package name

2009-06-25 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Fernando Nasser wrote:
 Having subpackages that do not have the SRPM name as a prefix is terrible on 
 tools adn scripts and should be avoided.

 Why not lzma-sdk-java   lzma-sdk-sharp  etc.?


I think that's a problem of those tools/scripts and not of this package.

lzma-sdk-java is good but on the other hand, lzma's java SDK is called
SevenZip. Why not just use SevenZip? I don't think it mixes up
with 7-zip, as the summaries are very different. Package summaries
show up pretty much everywhere including yum search foo.

I'd like to remind everyone that unlike perl, tcl/tk, ... ; the word
java doesn't need to take part in java package names.

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Re: (A)synchronous file operations xdg-open

2009-06-25 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Jerry James wrote:
 It appears to me that we either need to split xdg-open into two tools,
 representing the two modes of operation, or else give xdg-open a
 command-line switch to demand synchronous operation.

IMO the latter is clearly preferable, and would be even a good default.  But 
then again, it might be too late to change the default as it could break stuff 
(even if the xdg-open man page doesn't document async/sync operation at the 
moment).  And I'm not sure if the tools xdg-open invokes have async/sync 
operation modes - at least some of them would quite probably need 
modifications as well.

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Re: doubt regarding package name

2009-06-25 Thread Fernando Nasser
Not all under our control, not all authors still around etc.  And these fails 
are subtle and sometimes only detected too late.
The truth is that the regexp syntax is almost impossible (actually, I believe 
it is impossible) if the prefix is not there.
There isn't enough information to know if it is the same package or not.  
People are forced to add explicit had-coded code for each exception.

It is always confusing for humans to track where things are coming from if 
subpackages have different names.  If one is not in a situation to run a rpm 
-qi on the subpackage .rpm one may never know what produced it.

The only reason I don't propose %{name} should prefix all subpackages as a 
guideline is that we'd have to fix our geronimo-specs huge spec file ;-)
I actually think I should regardless...

Cheers,
Fernando

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:17:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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 Having subpackages that do not have the SRPM name as a prefix is terrible
 on tools adn scripts and should be avoided.

Tools that make such assumptions need fixing.

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Re: doubt regarding package name

2009-06-25 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fernando Nasser wrote:
 Not all under our control, not all authors still around etc.  And these
 fails are subtle and sometimes only detected too late. The truth is that
 the regexp syntax is almost impossible (actually, I believe it is
 impossible) if the prefix is not there. There isn't enough information to
 know if it is the same package or not.  People are forced to add explicit
 had-coded code for each exception.

 It is always confusing for humans to track where things are coming from if
 subpackages have different names.  If one is not in a situation to run a
 rpm -qi on the subpackage .rpm one may never know what produced it.

Well, as far as I know querying the package is the only reliable way of 
finding out that info, and stuff that doesn't do that _will_ break sooner or 
later.  Fedora guidelines won't help with that as not everything people use is 
packaged according to them.  Instead of coming up with such guidelines and 
thus encouraging making bad assumptions, better tools and user education is 
needed.

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Re: more debugging enabled in rawhide kernels.

2009-06-25 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 04:53:27PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:08:40PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
   In tomorrows rawhide kernel, I've enabled a debugging option
   called kmemleak. As the name suggests, this tracks memory allocations,
   and prints backtraces in cases where the memory is believed to be lost.
  
  As a general comment, I see many backtraces when I run the libguestfs
  testsuite.  Most are harmless, in that they don't appear to affect the
  running of programs, so I don't report them.  But is it helpful to
  report these?  If so how - open BZs for each variation that I see?

Everything I've seen so far looks like a false positive.
The next build should reduce the number of these (hopefully dramatically).

So for now, just hold off on filing anything.

Dave
 

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Plan for tomorrow's (20090626) FESCo meeting

2009-06-25 Thread Jon Stanley
Following are the topics up for discussion at tomorrow's FESCo meeting
at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on freenode:

170 Rename Desktop live image to GNOME live image
171 Critical Path Package Proposal
172 Better Webcam Support for F12
-https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupportF12
173 DisplayPort - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DisplayPort
174 NetworkManager Mobile Broadband F12 -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MoreNetworkManagerMobileBroadband

For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
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Re: more debugging enabled in rawhide kernels.

2009-06-25 Thread Clemens Eisserer
It has a horrible impact at least on Intel's driver performance.
I've run some benchmarks, which show half the performance.

This could be due to the update to 2.8.0 or due to debugging enabled.

- Clemens

2009/6/25 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 04:53:27PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
   On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:08:40PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
    In tomorrows rawhide kernel, I've enabled a debugging option
    called kmemleak. As the name suggests, this tracks memory allocations,
    and prints backtraces in cases where the memory is believed to be lost.
  
   As a general comment, I see many backtraces when I run the libguestfs
   testsuite.  Most are harmless, in that they don't appear to affect the
   running of programs, so I don't report them.  But is it helpful to
   report these?  If so how - open BZs for each variation that I see?

 Everything I've seen so far looks like a false positive.
 The next build should reduce the number of these (hopefully dramatically).

 So for now, just hold off on filing anything.

        Dave


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[Bug 477371] [cave9] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #25 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-06-25 
04:37:49 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #24)
 When I first picked '50' I thought it was a low priority. The problem is that 
 I
 just that I don't understand this configuration file, this was the reason for
 removing the other half also, I thought it was redundant, silly me.

There are several short and to-the-point txt files in
/usr/share/fontconfig/templates/ (fontpackages-devel)

that try to explain the fontconfig aspects relevant to the average packager. If
they're not sufficient or unclear, do not hesitate to complain on
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com (or open a fontpackages bug)

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[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

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--- Comment #17 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com  2009-06-25 05:11:48 EDT ---
can this bug be closed now?

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[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

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--- Comment #18 from Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org  2009-06-25 
05:20:10 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #17)
 can this bug be closed now?  

As I said in comment #12, I'd rather keep it open, just to not forget about it.

I didn't really fixed the bug, I worked around it. Fixing it requires getting
in touch with upstream, and have it fixed there. I tried to contact them, but I
got no reply.

I'll go on trying, I'm afraid that if I close this bug I'll forget about this
issue.

Is it really a problem to have it remain open ?

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[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

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--- Comment #19 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-06-25 
05:42:00 EDT ---
BTW, with regard to naming, it'd be a very good idea to check the new naming
conforms to the WWS spec (making it WPF and CSS compatible)

http://blogs.msdn.com/text/attachment/2249036.ashx
http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/typotechnica2007/Font%20names.pdf

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[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

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--- Comment #20 from Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org  2009-06-25 
06:05:18 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #19)
 BTW, with regard to naming, it'd be a very good idea to check the new naming
 conforms to the WWS spec (making it WPF and CSS compatible)
 
 http://blogs.msdn.com/text/attachment/2249036.ashx
 http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/typotechnica2007/Font%20names.pdf  

Do you mean the package should be renamed ? Or some of the font attributes
should be renamed ?

Could you open a new bug for that please ?

Please note that I am not really fonts-savvy, so if you could include as much
details as possible about the request, that would be really appreciated :)

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[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

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--- Comment #21 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-06-25 
07:08:03 EDT ---
I means the names declared in the font metadata should conform to the WWS spec.
You have all the gory details in the documents I linked, with standard values
for style names, the order attributes should appear in, what to put in font
name, what to put in style name, what to put in preferred name (and what is
their relationship), etc

So it's really the same bug you want to keep open, except the 'maybe dropping
the preferred name is a good idea' replaced by 'here is the spec MS published
that describes the naming that will work in most apps'

Do remember Adobe and MS are the entities writing the opentype spec, so their
opinion should be listened to carefully.

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[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

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--- Comment #22 from Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org  2009-06-25 
07:34:39 EDT ---
Ok, that's more clear now :)

I'll try to have a look at it when I find the time to.

I'll also notify upstream about this and see if they are more responsive this
time.

Thanks for the heads up.

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[Bug 477371] [cave9] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #26 from Victor Bogado bog...@bogado.net  2009-06-25 08:06:29 EDT 
---
Well according to the document you pointed out, it seems to me that for all
fantasy fonts there should not be the second half of the file. 

— the second one tells fontconfig it can complete the font named [fontname]
with glyphs taken from fonts registered under [genericname].

The argument is simple, fantasy fonts are generally used for their looks and
the computer will not be able to guess witch is the best compatible look for
the current project. So in my point of view, for fantasy fonts, the computer
should display a missing glyph to the user instead of choosing another font
that will probably surprise the user.

But I guess that this should be part of a larger policy, what do you think?

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--- Comment #27 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-06-25 
08:38:00 EDT ---
fontconfig will always try to complete the fonts and display something to the
user. It's better if the user can read what you wanted to display than the user
not being able to read computer messages at all (esp when those messages
require action on his part).

What this rule does is help fontconfig choose the best class of fonts to pick
from when it needs to complete. CSS works the same way in browsers

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[Bug 507501] Review Request: inkboy-fonts - a simple clean latin font

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   Flag|fedora-cvs? |fedora-cvs+




--- Comment #5 from Jason Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu  2009-06-25 16:10:35 EDT 
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CVS done.

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[Bug 507637] Missing fontset info

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--- Comment #2 from Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com  2009-06-25 16:50:53 EDT 
---
I had cjkuni-fonts-common and cjkuni-uming-fonts installed.  I just installed
cjkuni-fonts-ghostscript and cjkuni-ukai-fonts.  My system is fully updated as
of this morning.  It makes no difference.  The xlsfonts problem reported above
and the problem reported in bz #489145 still persist.

The cjkuni-fonts-common package installs
/usr/share/fonts/cjkuni/fonts.{dir,scale}, both of which contain references to
both the ukai and uming fonts, even if one or both is not installed.  This is
how I wound up with a reference to a ukai font while only having the uming
fonts installed.

Anyway, installing more fonts didn't help.

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[Bug 507501] Review Request: inkboy-fonts - a simple clean latin font

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--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-06-25 17:10:04 EDT ---
inkboy-fonts-20070624-3.fc11 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/inkboy-fonts-20070624-3.fc11

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[Bug 477371] [cave9] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #28 from Victor Bogado bog...@bogado.net  2009-06-25 17:14:58 EDT 
---
So you're saying that even without this fontconfig will try to complete. While
I disagree that this is the way to go, I think that it is better that the
system show me the error than trying to hide it, but this is more a
philosophical issue.

But anyway, what did you think about the last version?

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[Bug 455510] Undisplayable glyphs on Wikipedia

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--- Comment #13 from Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com  2009-06-25 18:07:16 EDT ---
The only language which doesn't work for me out of the box on www.wikipedia.org
is http://cu.wikipedia.org/wiki/ (which is Old Church Slavonic ... the language
has not been actively used since 13th Century).

bradford:~$ rpm -qa \*deja\* firefox xulrunner 
dejavu-sans-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
xulrunner-1.9.1-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
dejavu-sans-mono-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
dejavu-fonts-common-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
dejavu-serif-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
bradford:~$

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[Bug 455510] Undisplayable glyphs on Wikipedia

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--- Comment #14 from Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com  2009-06-25 18:11:15 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #13)
 The only language which doesn't work for me out of the box on 
 www.wikipedia.org
 is http://cu.wikipedia.org/wiki/ (which is Old Church Slavonic ... the 
 language
 has not been actively used since 13th Century).

Sorry, 11th Century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Church_Slavonic :)

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[Bug 507637] Missing fontset info

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--- Comment #3 from Caius 'kaio' Chance ccha...@redhat.com  2009-06-25 
20:14:12 EDT ---
Okay, I should let uming and ukai in two separate dir for them to have their
own font.{dir,scale} then.

I am creating a test sample rpm now.

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[Bug 507262] Separate Japanese font configuration files for ghostscript

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Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com changed:

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[Bug 468618] A bit over-enthusiastic splitting

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Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com changed:

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Version|rawhide |10




--- Comment #5 from Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com  2008-11-25 
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This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 10
development cycle.
Changing version to '10'.

More information and reason for this action is here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping

--- Comment #6 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com  2009-06-25 23:48:44 
EDT ---
Actually it is worse that that since currently the main packages also contain
the bold (and light) fonts...

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rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-11 cjkuni-fonts.spec,1.10,1.11

2009-06-25 Thread Caius Chance
Author: cchance

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9158

Modified Files:
cjkuni-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
* Fri Jun 26 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance k AT kaio.me - 0.2.20080216.1-25.fc11
- Resolves: rhbz#507637 (Missing fontset info: fixed by subpackaged -common.)



Index: cjkuni-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-11/cjkuni-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.10
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.10 -r1.11
--- cjkuni-fonts.spec   19 Jun 2009 06:09:19 -  1.10
+++ cjkuni-fonts.spec   26 Jun 2009 03:50:20 -  1.11
@@ -10,6 +10,9 @@ the CJK Unifonts project.
 %define umingbuilddir%{fontname}-uming-fonts-%{version}
 %define ukaibuilddir %{fontname}-ukai-fonts-%{version}
 
+%define umingdir %{_datadir}/fonts/cjkuni-uming
+%define ukaidir  %{_datadir}/fonts/cjkuni-ukai
+
 %define _cncompatdir %{_datadir}/fonts/zh_CN
 %define _twcompatdir %{_datadir}/fonts/zh_TW
 %define cncompatdir  %{_cncompatdir}/TrueType
@@ -21,7 +24,7 @@ the CJK Unifonts project.
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 0.2.20080216.1
-Release: 24%{?dist}
+Release: 25%{?dist}
 Summary: Chinese Unicode TrueType fonts in Ming and Kai face.
 License: Arphic
 Group:   User Interface/X
@@ -49,7 +52,7 @@ BuildRequires:fontpackages-devel = 
 %package -n %{fontname}-uming-fonts
 Summary:  Chinese Unicode TrueType font in Ming face.
 Group:User Interface/X
-Requires: %{fontname}-fonts-common = %{version}-%{release}
+Requires: %{fontname}-uming-fonts-common = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes:cjkunifonts-uming  0.2.20080216.1-16
 
 %description -n %{fontname}-uming-fonts
@@ -57,9 +60,7 @@ Obsoletes:cjkunifonts-uming  0.2.20
 
 CJK Unifonts in Ming face.
 
-%_font_pkg -n uming -f *-ttf-arphic-uming*.conf uming.ttc
-
-# remaining uming files
+%files -n %{fontname}-uming-fonts
 %doc ../%{umingbuilddir}/license
 %doc ../%{umingbuilddir}/CONTRIBUTERS
 %doc ../%{umingbuilddir}/Font_Comparison_ShanHeiSun_UMing.odt
@@ -70,11 +71,17 @@ CJK Unifonts in Ming face.
 %doc ../%{umingbuilddir}/NEWS
 %doc ../%{umingbuilddir}/README
 %doc ../%{umingbuilddir}/TODO
+%dir %{umingdir}
+%dir %{_fontconfig_templatedir}
+%dir %{_fontconfig_confdir}
+%{umingdir}/uming.ttc
+%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/*-ttf-arphic-uming*.conf
+%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{_fontconfig_confdir}/*-ttf-arphic-uming*.conf
 
 %package -n %{fontname}-ukai-fonts
 Summary:  Chinese Unicode TrueType font in Kai face.
 Group:User Interface/X
-Requires: %{fontname}-fonts-common = %{version}-%{release}
+Requires: %{fontname}-ukai-fonts-common = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes:cjkunifonts-ukai  0.2.20080216.1-16
 
 %description -n %{fontname}-ukai-fonts
@@ -82,9 +89,7 @@ Obsoletes:cjkunifonts-ukai  0.2.200
 
 CJK Unifonts in Kai face.
 
-%_font_pkg -n ukai -f *-ttf-arphic-ukai*.conf ukai.ttc
-
-# remaining ukai files
+%files -n %{fontname}-ukai-fonts
 %doc ../%{ukaibuilddir}/license
 %doc ../%{ukaibuilddir}/CONTRIBUTERS
 %doc ../%{ukaibuilddir}/Font_Comparison_ZenKai_UKai.odt
@@ -95,6 +100,11 @@ CJK Unifonts in Kai face.
 %doc ../%{ukaibuilddir}/NEWS
 %doc ../%{ukaibuilddir}/README
 %doc ../%{ukaibuilddir}/TODO
+%dir %{_fontconfig_templatedir}
+%dir %{_fontconfig_confdir}
+%{ukaidir}/ukai.ttc
+%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/*-ttf-arphic-ukai*.conf
+%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{_fontconfig_confdir}/*-ttf-arphic-ukai*.conf
 
 %package -n %{fontname}-fonts-ghostscript
 Summary:  Chinese Unicode TrueType font ghostscript files.
@@ -136,16 +146,43 @@ CJK Unifonts common files.
 
 %files -n %{fontname}-fonts-common
 %defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
-%dir %{_fontdir}
-%{gsdir}/FAPIcidfmap.zh_TW
-%{gsdir}/FAPIcidfmap.zh_CN
-%{gsdir}/cidfmap.zh_TW
-%{gsdir}/cidfmap.zh_CN
-%{gsdir}/CIDFnmap.zh_TW
-%{gsdir}/CIDFnmap.zh_CN
-%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{_fontdir}/fonts.dir
-%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{_fontdir}/fonts.scale
-%{catalogue}/%{name}
+%dir %{catalogue}
+%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{catalogue}/%{name}-uming
+%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{catalogue}/%{name}-ukai
+
+%package -n %{fontname}-uming-fonts-common
+Summary:  Chinese Unicode TrueType font uming common files.
+Group:User Interface/X
+Requires: %{fontname}-fonts-common = %{version}-%{release}
+Obsoletes:cjkunifonts-common  0.2.20080216.1-16 
+
+%description -n %{fontname}-uming-fonts-common
+%common_desc
+
+CJK Unifonts uming common files.
+
+%files -n %{fontname}-uming-fonts-common
+%defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
+%dir %{umingdir}
+%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{umingdir}/fonts.dir
+%verify(not md5 size mtime) %{umingdir}/fonts.scale
+
+%package -n %{fontname}-ukai-fonts-common
+Summary:  Chinese Unicode TrueType font ukai common files.
+Group:User Interface/X
+Requires: %{fontname}-fonts-common = %{version}-%{release}
+Obsoletes:   

[Bug 468618] A bit over-enthusiastic splitting

2009-06-25 Thread bugzilla
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   What|Removed |Added

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rpms/un-core-fonts/F-11 un-core-fonts.spec,1.3,1.4

2009-06-25 Thread Jens Petersen
Author: petersen

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/un-core-fonts/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv20955

Modified Files:
un-core-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
fix filelist to only include specific font (#496795)


Index: un-core-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/un-core-fonts/F-11/un-core-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- un-core-fonts.spec  25 Feb 2009 22:47:57 -  1.3
+++ un-core-fonts.spec  26 Jun 2009 04:39:12 -  1.4
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ Core 모음: \
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 1.0.2
-Release: 0.7.%{alphatag}%{?dist}
+Release: 0.8.%{alphatag}%{?dist}
 Summary: Un Core family of Korean TrueType fonts
 Summary(ko): 한글 은글꼴 Core 모음
 
@@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ fi\
 %config(noreplace) %{fontconfdir}65-%{fontname}-%(echo %1).conf \
 \
 %dir %{fontdir} \
-%{fontdir}%(echo %2)*.ttf
+%{fontdir}%(echo %2).ttf
 
 %un_subpkg batang UnBatang 은바탕
 %un_subpkg batangbold UnBatangBold 은바탕굵은
@@ -271,6 +271,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Jun 26 2009 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com - 1.0.2-0.8.080608
+- fix filelist to only include specific font (#496795)
+
 * Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.0.2-0.7.080608
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 

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[Bug 496795] UnDotum overrides Japanese desktop

2009-06-25 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-06-26 00:58:50 EDT ---
un-core-fonts-1.0.2-0.8.080608.fc11 has been submitted as an update for Fedora
11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/un-core-fonts-1.0.2-0.8.080608.fc11

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Re: Enabling syntax checking for puppet via a git update hook

2009-06-25 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Todd Zullinger wrote:

 I was talking with Ricky on IRC about enabling some syntax checking
 for puppet *.pp files in a git update hook for the infra puppet repo.
 The goal would be to help catch typos before they ever get pushed into
 the main /git/puppet repository.

 I've tested this a bit on puppet1 with local repos and it appears to
 work well.  But obviously, we'd want to enable this when there were
 plenty of folks around to revert it should it cause and prevent work
 from getting done.

 While testing, I noticed that the update hook in /git/puppet is pretty
 much identical to the fedora-git-commit-mail-hook in use on hosted.
 Perhaps we'd want to be guinea pigs for converting from that older
 update hook to the more current update hook and have mail
 notifications handled via the post-receive-email hook?  That would
 allow us to work out any issues before we enable that on hosted.

 I think we would probably want to make this change first, ensure it
 doesn't cause any problems, and then add the puppet syntax checking to
 the update hook.

 Assuming we make the above changes and use the post-receive-email hook
 for mail notification, the changes I'd like to make to the current
 git-1.5.5.6 update hook to enable puppet syntax checking are:


I'll take a look at this tomorrow, we've got a git check in there now that
does a syntax and notify.  I think the only reason it prevents commits is
because I didn't know how to do that :)  so all it does is throw errors.

Here's the only got'cha.  We mix a private and public repo together.  IE:
in our public repo we reference $someDbPassword, and then in the private
repo we create that password.  The only time they're together is after a
push has happened.  Does this account for that?  Does that problem not
even exist anymore?

-Mike


 --- /usr/share/git-core/templates/hooks/update2008-12-20 
 06:10:22.0 +
 +++ /home/fedora/tmz/puppet.git/hooks/update  2009-06-25 01:34:14.0 
 +
 @@ -103,5 +103,40 @@
   ;;
  esac

 +# Check syntax of puppet files
 +# Taken from http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetVersionControl
 +
 +check=puppet --color=false --confdir=/tmp --vardir=/tmp --parseonly 
 --ignoreimport
 +tmp=$(mktemp /tmp/git.update.XX)
 +log=$(mktemp /tmp/git.update.log.XX)
 +tree=$(mktemp /tmp/git.diff-tree.XX)
 +
 +git diff-tree -r $2 $3  $tree
 +
 +exit_status=0
 +
 +while read old_mode new_mode old_sha1 new_sha1 status name
 +do
 +# skip lines showing parent commit
 +test -z $new_sha1  continue
 +# Only test .pp files
 +if [[ $name =~ [.]pp$ ]]
 +then
 +git cat-file blob $new_sha1  $tmp
 +set -o pipefail
 +$check $tmp 21 | sed s|/tmp/git.update.*:\([0-9]*\)$|${name}:\1| 
  $log
 +if [[ $? != 0 ]]
 +then
 +echo
 +cat $log 2
 +echo -e For details run: git diff ${old_sha1:0:7} 
 ${new_sha1:0:7} 2
 +echo
 +exit_status=1
 +fi
 +fi
 +done  $tree
 +
 +rm -f $log $tmp $tree
 +
  # --- Finished
 -exit 0
 +exit $exit_status

 When pushing an update with a syntax errors, the output looks like
 this:

 $ git push ~/puppet.git test-hooks
 Counting objects: 14, done.
 Compressing objects: 100% (9/9), done.
 Writing objects: 100% (9/9), 767 bytes, done.
 Total 9 (delta 7), reused 0 (delta 0)
 Unpacking objects: 100% (9/9), done.

 err: Could not parse for environment production: Syntax error at 'source'; 
 expected '}' at manifests/filetypes/standard.pp:11
 For details run: git diff 3d15e34 d71d226


 err: Could not parse for environment production: Syntax error at 'group'; 
 expected '}' at manifests/site.pp:12
 For details run: git diff 22d6265 62e516f

 error: hooks/update exited with error code 1
 error: hook declined to update refs/heads/test-hooks
 To /home/fedora/tmz/puppet.git
  ! [remote rejected] test-hooks - test-hooks (hook declined)
 error: failed to push some refs to '/home/fedora/tmz/puppet.git'

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Re: CVS upgrade step2

2009-06-25 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:



 On Jun 24, 2009, at 20:50, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:

  So I was going to finish the upgrade to cvs1 on Thursday or Friday.  Both
  Jesse and Toshio are out of the country though and it strikes me as a bad
  idea to make potentially massive changes to that box without having at
  least one of them around as backup :)
 
  So I'm going to wait until next week.
 
 

 Honestly Bill knows more about the cvs system than I do.


:) good to know.

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Re: CVS upgrade step2

2009-06-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath (mmcgr...@redhat.com) said: 
   So I was going to finish the upgrade to cvs1 on Thursday or Friday.  Both
   Jesse and Toshio are out of the country though and it strikes me as a bad
   idea to make potentially massive changes to that box without having at
   least one of them around as backup :)
  
   So I'm going to wait until next week.

As far as I'm concerned, if you want to do it today or Friday (before EOB), 
that's
fine with me.

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Re: Enabling syntax checking for puppet via a git update hook

2009-06-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
Mike McGrath wrote:
 I'll take a look at this tomorrow, we've got a git check in there
 now that does a syntax and notify.  I think the only reason it
 prevents commits is because I didn't know how to do that :)  so all
 it does is throw errors.

That's in syncPuppetMaster.sh, called from the post-update hook,
right?  By then, there is no chance to deny the push, as the refs have
been updated by git. :)

 Here's the only got'cha.  We mix a private and public repo together.
 IE: in our public repo we reference $someDbPassword, and then in the
 private repo we create that password.  The only time they're
 together is after a push has happened.  Does this account for that?
 Does that problem not even exist anymore?

Using the code for the update hook in my previous mail, I don't think
is should be a problem.  That should only check the files that are
being modified by the push for syntax errors.  Puppet is called with
--parseonly and --ignoreimport.  That should prevent problems caused
by a manifest in puppet relying on something in private.  Of course,
testing it on a manifest that uses a variable define in private would
be a good idea. :)

Keeping the syntax check in syncPuppetMaster.sh is probably a good
backup, as it might catch things that the check on individual .pp
files misses.

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Here I am

2009-06-25 Thread Jorge Gallegos
Hi Everybody,

I've been following the infra group for a while now, I am interested in
joining the sysadmin-hosted FIG at the moment, since it seems as a nice
entry point to all the infra madness I've seen so far :)
I'd like to join some other FIGs in the future (web and dba seem to be like
my kind of thing) but at the moment my time and n00bness in all fedora-infra
related things keep me from doing so.
I've done web development for about 8 years now, I've coded in java, php,
python. I've done a fair amount of sysadmin-related stuff such as
installation and support, a lot of shell scripting, a good deal of python
scripting, little perl and ruby. I've served almost equal parts of SCM,
RelEng, Web and DBA stuff (hence my interest in joining those particular
groups).
A side question, is there a particular TODO/wish/bug list for each FIG? I
couldn't figure out if there's any, and having jotted down the pending tasks
somewhere may attract more people to join the infra group because there
would be clear tasks to be done and someone would certainly say hey, I can
do that.
Anyway, thanks and I'll start bugging^W asking around people from the hosted
FIG to see what tasks a n00b like me can do :)

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Re: New member intro

2009-06-25 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Paul Guglielmino wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I joined the mail list about a week ago and wanted to send an introduction.

 I've been working with unix systems for about 10 years. First as a
 volunteer at my university and then at several companies. I'm
 currently working with a software company as an operations engineer
 for a web application that is in development. I work with the
 developers on design issues, maintain the build servers and deployment
 tools and keep all the servers running. We use fedora, apache, tomcat,
 hudson, svn and other open source tools. Shell or perl are my primary
 scripting languages but I'm at an immediate level with python.


Hey Paul, thanks for the introduction.  We have weekly meetings (one today
at 20:00 UTC if you can make it)

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings

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Re: Here I am

2009-06-25 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Jorge Gallegos wrote:

 Hi Everybody,

 I've been following the infra group for a while now, I am interested in 
 joining the sysadmin-hosted FIG at the moment,
 since it seems as a nice entry point to all the infra madness I've seen so 
 far :)
 I'd like to join some other FIGs in the future (web and dba seem to be like 
 my kind of thing) but at the moment my time
 and n00bness in all fedora-infra related things keep me from doing so.
 I've done web development for about 8 years now, I've coded in java, php, 
 python. I've done a fair amount of
 sysadmin-related stuff such as installation and support, a lot of shell 
 scripting, a good deal of python scripting,
 little perl and ruby. I've served almost equal parts of SCM, RelEng, Web and 
 DBA stuff (hence my interest in joining
 those particular groups).
 A side question, is there a particular TODO/wish/bug list for each FIG? I 
 couldn't figure out if there's any, and having
 jotted down the pending tasks somewhere may attract more people to join the 
 infra group because there would be clear
 tasks to be done and someone would certainly say hey, I can do that.
 Anyway, thanks and I'll start bugging^W asking around people from the hosted 
 FIG to see what tasks a n00b like me can do
 :)


Hey Jorge, how many hours a week do you think you'll be able to spend?
Stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net and say hey.

-Mike

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Re: Puppet Web Apps Refactoring

2009-06-25 Thread Ricky Zhou
OK, this is roughly what the plan is for the move to the puppet modules
today.  I will try to rebuilt most of these from scratch if possible, so
if anybody has anything they need in their home directories or anything,
please back it up!  Sorry for the short notice.

0) Change DNS to point at PHX only
1) fas2, fas1
2) Test FAS
3) bapp1, app1, app2, app3, app4, app5, app6 (test partway through)
4) proxy3, proxy4, proxy5
5) Test all sites against non-PHX proxies
6) proxy1, proxy2

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Meeting Log - 2009-06-25

2009-06-25 Thread Ricky Zhou
20:00  mmcgrath #startmeeting
20:00  fedbot Meeting started Thu Jun 25 20:00:20 2009 UTC.  The chair is 
mmcgrath.
20:00  fedbot Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot , 
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
20:00  mmcgrath #topic Who's here?
20:00 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Who's here?
20:00  * ricky 
20:00  * nirik is in the cheap seats in the back
20:00  cralin Alin Crețu is here (finally)
20:00  * Sparks is here to see all the goings on
20:00 -!- notting [n=nott...@redhat/notting] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:01  * onekopaka is here for who knows what reason
20:01  * sijis is here.
20:01  ianweller helll
20:01  * ke4qqq is here
20:02 -!- mcepl [n=mc...@49-117-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] 
has left #fedora-meeting []
20:02  mmcgrath k, lets get started then
20:02  mmcgrath #topic Infrastructure -- Meeting Tickets
20:02 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- 
Meeting Tickets
20:02  mmcgrath .tiny 
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopenedgroup=milestonekeywords=~Meetingorder=priority
20:02  zodbot mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y
20:02  mmcgrath So really the only ticket we have on the list is
20:02  mmcgrath .ticket 1464
20:02  zodbot mmcgrath: #1464 (Puppet Web Apps Refactoring) - Fedora 
Infrastructure - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1464
20:02  smooge here
20:02  mmcgrath This is goign to happen today if it's not already happening 
like right now :)'
20:02 -!- denise [n=ddu...@66.187.234.199] has quit Remote closed the connection
20:02  mmcgrath ricky: you want to take it?
20:03  ricky Sure.
20:03  ricky Sorry for the late notice, but if you have anything in your home 
directories on those machines, it'd be a good idea to back them up now
20:03  ricky They're in other backups, but those are kind of painful to get 
to.
20:03  ricky I just sent an email to list with the rough order that we're 
planning to do things in.
20:03  mmcgrath ricky: do we just want to... disable to cron job for a while? 
 :)
20:04  ricky There will probably be a lot of puppet spam around the merge 
because the fas module changed, which touches more than just the 
apps/proxies/fas machines
20:04  * hiemanshu is here now
20:04  ricky mmcgrath: Yeah, I'm currently disabling puppet on the 
proxy/app/fas machines
20:05  ricky Anyway, I hope this goes well, and look for another email to 
f-i-l about the exact nature of the puppet changes once the dust clears a bit
20:05  mmcgrath coolz
20:05  mmcgrath ricky: and whats our plan for config clean up on the actual 
nodes?
20:05  mmcgrath IE stuff that shouldn't exist there anymore?
20:05  * hiemanshu wonders what the topic is
20:05  mmcgrath hiemanshu:
20:05  mmcgrath .ticket 1464
20:05  zodbot mmcgrath: #1464 (Puppet Web Apps Refactoring) - Fedora 
Infrastructure - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1464
20:06  ricky I'm hoping the rebuild most of them, which shouldn't take all 
that long
20:06  mmcgrath ricky: k.
20:06  ricky It's the only way to make sure that the new configs aren't 
relying on old stuff :-/
20:06  * SmootherFrOgZ is around
20:06  mmcgrath yeah, and rebuilding doesn't harm anything :)
20:07  hiemanshu ricky, rebuild from scratch?
20:07  mmcgrath ricky: did transifex get all setup in staging and is working 
properly?
20:07  ricky Yup, https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/
20:07  ricky Oh yeah.  If I forgot a service, *now* would be a good time to 
tell me :-)
20:07  hiemanshu blogs.fp.o?
20:08  smooge did you get the controls for the orbital laser?
20:08  ricky we haven't deployed that yet, so that won't be included
20:08  mmcgrath hiemanshu: doesn't exist yet so it won't be included in this.
20:08  ricky smooge: drat!
20:08  smooge just saying.. it takes a long time to get back online
20:08  mmcgrath ricky: lets keep the old images around for a bit just in case.
20:08  smooge seriously though cool.
20:08  mmcgrath at least bapp1, and app1 and app2.
20:09  ricky mmcgrath: Will do, I can just rename the LV, rght?
20:09  ricky **right
20:09  onekopaka we have an orbital laser?
20:09  mmcgrath ricky: yeah, and if any are on the xenGuests vg, make sure to 
pvscan and vgscan it.
20:09  ricky onekopaka: Why else would we ask for latitude and logitude in 
FAS?  :-)
20:09  * mmcgrath doesn't think any of those are
20:09  ricky Will do
20:09  mmcgrath ricky: ok, anything else on that subject?
20:10  ricky Nope, thanks
20:10 -!- tmz [n=...@fedora/tmz] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:10  mmcgrath coolz
20:10  onekopaka ricky: are you planning to hit me with said orbital laser?
20:10  mmcgrath #topic Infrastructure -- cvs2
20:10 -!- fedbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- cvs2
20:10  mmcgrath so I'm still getting the new cvs server up and running.
20:10  mmcgrath it should, in theory, not require that much 

SSH key warnings

2009-06-25 Thread Ricky Zhou
Hi, as some of you noticed (good!), you might start getting prompted to
verify SSH host keys on bastion.  This is because we have temporarily
disabled the system-wide ssh_known_hosts file as we are rebuilding a
bunch of machines today.  Once everything is rebuilt, we'll go through
and update ssh_known_hosts and renable it.

The tracking ticket for this is at
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1476

Until then, you can verify the keys at:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ssh_known_hosts (might go away once
proxies get rebuilt)

or

http://ricky.fedorapeople.org/ssh_known_hosts

Sorry for the alarm,
Ricky


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Re: Wonderful radeon driver feature :-)

2009-06-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Horsley wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506552

Hmmm, that's, uh, interesting...

 (Blowed up capacitors on the nvidia card :-).

And that shows the great quality of NVidia hardware. :-D

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Re: Change Machine, No Sound (longish)

2009-06-25 Thread Mike McCarty

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Mike McCarty wrote:

I use an old but working version of Fedora.


Your ancient version (ALSA library 1.0.3a? WTF??? The oldest still supported
release is Fedora 9 which has 1.0.17 in updates!) is no longer supported,
you have to upgrade. You can't expect to get help for unsupported releases.


I expect nothing. I asked for some help, and I'm getting some.


Most likely the ancient ALSA in the obsolete release you're using simply
does not support your current hardware. That's no wonder.


The new hardware is a several years older machine than the one that
worked, and certainly older than the ALSA release.


Time to upgrade.


Non sequitur, I think.

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Re: Wonderful radeon driver feature :-)

2009-06-25 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Tom Horsley wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506552

 Hmmm, that's, uh, interesting...

 (Blowed up capacitors on the nvidia card :-).

 And that shows the great quality of NVidia hardware. :-D

        Kevin Kofler

Tru tru, ATIs software sucks though, cross-platform. Has AMD turned that around?

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Re: Updates to F10 now put windows partition icons on desktop!

2009-06-25 Thread Mike Cloaked



Ian Chapman-2 wrote:
 
 On 25/06/09 05:37, Mike Cloaked wrote:
 I just updated F10 tonight - and now when I log in I get a recovery
 partition
 icon and a windows OS partition on the gnome desktop - yuch.

 Anyone know how to turn this off?
 
 Are they actually being mounted, or is it just the icons? Do a df -h or 
 a mount in a shell to see. If they are being mounted, it could be your 
 policy settings.
 
 Open up System - Preferences - Authorisations, why it's in this menu 
 is beyond me.
 
 Have a look at disks - Mount a system internal device
 
 Implicit Authorisations should read
 
 Anyone: No
 Console: No
 Active Console: Admin Authentication
 
 See if there's any entry in Explicit Authorisations for your user and if 
 so remove it.
 
 
 If that makes no different, then it could be that the internal disks on 
 your system are incorrectly being seen as external devices.
 
 Have a look at Disks - Mount a device
 
 and set it to the same settings as above.
 
 

Thanks Ian - I will have to check later as I have a heavy work day today -
but prior to yesterday's updates no internal partition icons appeared on the
desktop in Gnome - immediately after the updates and rebooting to the new
kernel this was the unexpected behaviour.  I had not rebooted the machine
for about a month prior to last night so it is possible that this new
behaviour is due to some other updates that came in sometime during the past
month and not specifically one of those from last night.

Anyway I will check the authorisations and other settings tonight - but in
the meantime I wonder if anyone else is seeing the same behaviour?
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Re: Wonderful radeon driver feature :-)

2009-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Tom Horsley wrote:
   
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506552
 

 Hmmm, that's, uh, interesting...

   
 (Blowed up capacitors on the nvidia card :-).
 

 And that shows the great quality of NVidia hardware. :-D

   
Of course one really has to know that nVidia only makes the GPU's ...
The other components are made by many different manufactures and are
assembled into a Video Card powered by nVidia by many different
companies. 

To attempt to pin bad caps on nVidia is simply ludicrous.




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Re: F11 yum strange behaviour

2009-06-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 25 June 2009 05:11:41 Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
 I just finished updating my f9 machine, and thought I'd check my F11
 machine for updates.  It told me there were some, but then when I tried
 to update them, it renigged on me?

  $ yum check-update
  Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
  merge-conf, refresh-packagekit adobe-linux-i386  
   
|  951 B 00:00 updates/metalink
   
  | 4.5 kB 00:00 updates   
   
| 4.4 kB 00:00 updates/primary_db  
   
  | 1.6 MB 00:01
 
  apr.i586 
 1.3.5-1.fc11  
 updates apr-util.i586 
1.3.7-1.fc11   
updates apr-util-ldap.i586 
   1.3.7-1.fc11
   updates audit.i586  
  1.7.13-1.fc11
  updates audit-libs.i586  
 1.7.13-1.fc11 
 updates
  audit-libs-python.i586   
 1.7.13-1.fc11 
 updates cpuspeed.i586 
1:1.5-9.fc11   
updates gupnp-av.i586  
   0.4.1-1.fc11
   updates japanese-bitmap-fonts.noarch
  0.20080710-7.fc11
  updates kernel.i586  
 2.6.29.5-191.fc11 
 updates
  kernel-firmware.noarch   
 2.6.29.5-191.fc11 
 updates kernel-headers.i586   
2.6.29.5-191.fc11  
updates libhangul.i586 
   0.0.9-1.fc11
   updates libicu.i586 
  4.0.1-4.fc11 
  updates libpurple.i586   
 2.5.7-1.fc11  
 updates mysql-libs.i586   
   
  5.1.35-1.fc11
  updates pidgin.i586  
 2.5.7-1.fc11  
 updates transmission.i586 
1.72-1.fc11
updates $ sudo yum -y update
  Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
  merge-conf, refresh-packagekit Determining fastest mirrors
  updates/metalink 
   | 4.5 kB
  00:00 * fedora: mirrors.reflected.net
   * updates: mirrors.reflected.net
  adobe-linux-i386 
   |  951 B
  00:00 adobe-linux-i386/primary   
 |  11
  kB 00:00 adobe-linux-i386
   
   17/17 updates   
   
| 4.4 kB 00:00 Setting up Update Process
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Re: Updates to F10 now put windows partition icons on desktop! [Solved]

2009-06-25 Thread Mike Cloaked



Ian Chapman-2 wrote:
 
 
 Open up System - Preferences - Authorisations, why it's in this menu 
 is beyond me.
 
 Have a look at disks - Mount a system internal device
 
 Implicit Authorisations should read
 
 Anyone: No
 Console: No
 Active Console: Admin Authentication
 
 See if there's any entry in Explicit Authorisations for your user and if 
 so remove it.
 
 

Ian, I had a quick look at the authorisations - you were spot on - there was
indeed an explicit authorisation for me as user set up 14 days ago as
permanent - though I do not remember adding this!  Anyway removing it solved
the problem.

Thanks for  your help and hints - it was useful
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Pulseaudio and low volume

2009-06-25 Thread Alessandro Boggiano

Hi all,
a little pulseaudio problem with F11 and eeepc 1000HD.

gnome-volume applet shows only the channel line out, (and it saves the 
right volume value between sessions) but if I call alsamixergui -c0 I 
can set PCM volume as well.


The problem is that, at the startup, the volume is quite low, even if I 
set it to the max volume with the applet; so, all the times, I have to 
start alsamixergui and set the right value.


How can I save the alsa volume values between the sessions?
Or, how can I link gnome-applet slider to the channel I want ?

Also, where is my old good shell friend alsamixer? ;)

Thanks
Alessandro

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Re: Wonderful radeon driver feature :-)

2009-06-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Tom Horsley wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506552

 Hmmm, that's, uh, interesting...

 (Blowed up capacitors on the nvidia card :-).

 And that shows the great quality of NVidia hardware. :-D

Kevin Kofler

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 around?

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KDE - Default icon for filetype

2009-06-25 Thread Alessandro Boggiano

Hi all,
how can I change the default icon for the *chm files ?
I can change the default applications but not the icon!

Thanks
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Re: Calibre on F11 64bit

2009-06-25 Thread Frank Murphy

On 24/06/09 20:29, Peter van Hooft wrote:


Hi,

Looking in the installer, it downloads a 32-bit version of calibre.
So, you would need to install libusb.i586 or possibly libusb1.i586.



Installing the two above worked.

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Re: Gnome-do plugins??

2009-06-25 Thread davide
Giovanni Cucca starkiller at fedoraproject.org writes:

 
 Il giorno mer, 24/06/2009 alle 21.34 +, davide ha scritto:
  Hi, is there a way to have a package for gnome-do-plugins?
  at the moment the gnome-do package provided in fedora 11 is incomplete.
  
  I could compile it myself, but I would prefere an official package.
  
  
  Thanks a lot, d.
  
 There's already a bug filed in bugzilla[1], and it seems plugins will
 get packaged soon.
 
 Bye
 
 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489014
 
 

ok, thank you.
What is the better way to have them in the meanwhile?

I can compile a srcrpm if needed, not a problem.

thanks a lot.

(Grazie e ciao ;-))


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Re: Gnome-do plugins??

2009-06-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/25/2009 02:24 PM, davide wrote:


 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489014


 
 ok, thank you.
 What is the better way to have them in the meanwhile?
 
 I can compile a srcrpm if needed, not a problem.

Build from srpm.

Rahul

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Re: Pulseaudio and low volume

2009-06-25 Thread davide
Alessandro Boggiano boggiano at gmail.com writes:


 The problem is that, at the startup, the volume is quite low, even if I 
 set it to the max volume with the applet; so, all the times, I have to 
 start alsamixergui and set the right value.
 
 How can I save the alsa volume values between the sessions?
 Or, how can I link gnome-applet slider to the channel I want ?


Ciao Alessandro,
I solved the same problem installing gst-mixer, that allows you to control the
alsa levels, after that all is ok.


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Re: Fingerprint-reader not working after F10 - F11 upgrade

2009-06-25 Thread Bengt Lindholm
Bengt Lindholm wrote:
 Fingerprint-reader stopped working after F10 - F11 yum-upgrade (PC
 asked to upgrade and I klicked OK). I'm using KDE, no gdm. What to
do?


Has KDM ever supported fingerprint readers? As far as I know, this is a
planned feature upstream.

And what model is the fingerprint reader? F11 ships with a new
bleeding-edge libfprint which drops support for some hardware (because
the drivers are not ported yet).

   Kevin Kofler


I gave up and installed GDM (+ dependencies) and the fingerprintreader
works again.

About KDM support for fingerprint readers I know nothing, everything
just worked (Fedora 10) after reading the tf-tool's README-file and doig
what it said.

I prefer KDM because I don't know how to set up the GDM the way I want.
I remember vaguely, that there once was a setup-tool for GDM? And
anyway, why use GDM when KDE is more suitable for my needs?

Bengt


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Re: NFS4 home mounts owned by nfsnobody

2009-06-25 Thread John Austin
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 01:15 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 20:53 +0100, John Austin wrote: 
  On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 14:15 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
   I have a similar error message:
   
   Jun 24 13:49:57 bolt rpc.idmapd[2481]: nss_getpwnam: name 
   'bra...@hinge.endoframe.net' does not map into domain 'endoframe.net'
   
   hinge is my NIS server machine (as well as the NFS server); this error
   message occurs on the client.  Adding an entry for hinge to /etc/hosts
   does not appear to have changed this.
   
   # cat /etc/hosts
   127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 
   localhost4.localdomain4 bolt bolt.endoframe.net
   ::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 
   localhost6.localdomain6
   192.168.1.21 hinge hinge.endoframe.net
   
  
  
  The error message suggests something (rpc.idmapd ?)  is adding the
  server   hostname (hinge)  to the domainname which is causing
  the problem.
 
 Yup.
 
  Try putting just bolt (and not bolt.endoframe.net)
  and no 192.168.1.21 hinge hinge.endoframe.net in /etc/hosts
  and reboot
 
 That was the first thing I tried. (Though I tried it again just for good
 measure.)  The additions of bold.endoframe.net and the entry for hinge
 were just experiments that had no discernible impact.
 
  My NFS server is also my NIS, dhcpd, samba and DNS server
 
 My DNS server is on a separate box.  I'm not using DHCP.
 
  My NIS and DNS domains are both called jaa.org.uk
 
 I'm close to changing my NIS domain to endoframe.net; but I doubt that's
 the problem.
 
  On my clients I have
  naxos sysconfig 33# cat network
  HOSTNAME=naxos
  NETWORKING=yes
  NISDOMAIN=jaa.org.uk
 
 I was fully qualifying HOSTNAME here.  I'm not anymore.
 
  I am using network and NOT NetworkManager
 
 I've changed from NetworkManager to network.  The only impact of that
 I've noticed was on clients, where ypbind wouldn't find the server at
 boot when using NetworkManager.
 
 One thing I've noticed is that even though I've changed HOSTNAME
 in /etc/sysconfig/network to hinge (from hinge.endoframe.net),
 ypinit still sees hinge.endoframe.net:
 
 # /usr/lib64/yp/ypinit -m
 
 At this point, we have to construct a list of the hosts which will 
 run NIS
 servers.  hinge.endoframe.net is in the list of NIS server hosts.  
 Please continue to add
 the names for the other hosts, one per line.  When you are done with 
 the
 list, type a control D.
   next host to add:  hinge.endoframe.net
   next host to add:  
 
 I am wondering if this could be related to the problem.  Do you know
 where ypinit picks up this name from?  I've seen some howtos where it is
 not fully qualified (e.g.,
 http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch30_:_Configuring_NIS#Initialize_Your_NIS_Domain).
 
 -- 
 Braden McDaniel bra...@endoframe.com
 

From my NIS notes to myself - I don't like the number much !

13. The NISDOMAIN (set in /etc/sysconfig/network) gets set (using nisdomainname)
when service ypbind start runs NOT when ypbind or ypbind -debug   
is run from the command line.   
It may be necessary to set it by hand (or run /etc/rd.d/ypbind start) 
when debugging.

This note reflects a painful experiences not realising that
nisdomainname MUST be set before running ypinit !

So when generating the NIS maps the first time I run service ypbind start then 
stop
Check nisdomainname and then run /usr/lib64/yp/ypinit -m to create the maps
---

I am beginning to have a feeling that rpc.idmapd may have a bug in it or 
perhaps does not interact correctly with something new in F11

The man page for rpc.idmapd (and idmapd.conf) are completely obsolete as you 
can no longer
run it from a terminal in debug/interactive mode.

I have tried playing with the Domain parameter in /etc/idmapd.conf
but everything I try results in nobody entries

I feel I have been very lucky to have nfs4 mapping working at all 
Understanding would be a bonus !

John






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Re: NFS4 home mounts owned by nfsnobody

2009-06-25 Thread John Austin
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:34 +0100, John Austin wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 01:15 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
  On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 20:53 +0100, John Austin wrote: 
   On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 14:15 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
I have a similar error message:

Jun 24 13:49:57 bolt rpc.idmapd[2481]: nss_getpwnam: name 
'bra...@hinge.endoframe.net' does not map into domain 'endoframe.net'

hinge is my NIS server machine (as well as the NFS server); this error
message occurs on the client.  Adding an entry for hinge to /etc/hosts
does not appear to have changed this.

# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 
localhost4.localdomain4 bolt bolt.endoframe.net
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 
localhost6.localdomain6
192.168.1.21 hinge hinge.endoframe.net

   
   
   The error message suggests something (rpc.idmapd ?)  is adding the
   server   hostname (hinge)  to the domainname which is causing
   the problem.
  
  Yup.
  
   Try putting just bolt (and not bolt.endoframe.net)
   and no 192.168.1.21 hinge hinge.endoframe.net in /etc/hosts
   and reboot
  
  That was the first thing I tried. (Though I tried it again just for good
  measure.)  The additions of bold.endoframe.net and the entry for hinge
  were just experiments that had no discernible impact.
  
   My NFS server is also my NIS, dhcpd, samba and DNS server
  
  My DNS server is on a separate box.  I'm not using DHCP.
  
   My NIS and DNS domains are both called jaa.org.uk
  
  I'm close to changing my NIS domain to endoframe.net; but I doubt that's
  the problem.
  
   On my clients I have
   naxos sysconfig 33# cat network
   HOSTNAME=naxos
   NETWORKING=yes
   NISDOMAIN=jaa.org.uk
  
  I was fully qualifying HOSTNAME here.  I'm not anymore.
  
   I am using network and NOT NetworkManager
  
  I've changed from NetworkManager to network.  The only impact of that
  I've noticed was on clients, where ypbind wouldn't find the server at
  boot when using NetworkManager.
  
  One thing I've noticed is that even though I've changed HOSTNAME
  in /etc/sysconfig/network to hinge (from hinge.endoframe.net),
  ypinit still sees hinge.endoframe.net:
  
  # /usr/lib64/yp/ypinit -m
  
  At this point, we have to construct a list of the hosts which will 
  run NIS
  servers.  hinge.endoframe.net is in the list of NIS server hosts.  
  Please continue to add
  the names for the other hosts, one per line.  When you are done 
  with the
  list, type a control D.
  next host to add:  hinge.endoframe.net
  next host to add:  
  
  I am wondering if this could be related to the problem.  Do you know
  where ypinit picks up this name from?  I've seen some howtos where it is
  not fully qualified (e.g.,
  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch30_:_Configuring_NIS#Initialize_Your_NIS_Domain).
  
  -- 
  Braden McDaniel bra...@endoframe.com
  
 
 From my NIS notes to myself - I don't like the number much !
 
 13. The NISDOMAIN (set in /etc/sysconfig/network) gets set (using 
 nisdomainname)
 when service ypbind start runs NOT when ypbind or ypbind -debug 
   
 is run from the command line. 
   
 It may be necessary to set it by hand (or run /etc/rd.d/ypbind start) 
 when debugging.
 
 This note reflects a painful experiences not realising that
 nisdomainname MUST be set before running ypinit !
 
 So when generating the NIS maps the first time I run service ypbind start 
 then stop
 Check nisdomainname and then run /usr/lib64/yp/ypinit -m to create the maps
 ---
 
 I am beginning to have a feeling that rpc.idmapd may have a bug in it or 
 perhaps does not interact correctly with something new in F11
 
 The man page for rpc.idmapd (and idmapd.conf) are completely obsolete as you 
 can no longer
 run it from a terminal in debug/interactive mode.
 
 I have tried playing with the Domain parameter in /etc/idmapd.conf
 but everything I try results in nobody entries
 
 I feel I have been very lucky to have nfs4 mapping working at all 
 Understanding would be a bonus !
 
 John
 
I've found my problem - not that I had one !!
Just a total lack of awareness !!

I did not have

Domain = jaa.org.uk

in /etc/idmapd.conf on the Server and all the clients 

Mine must have defaulted to the correct value somehow under F11
with the /etc/hosts entry set.
Whereas F10 seemed to work anyway

Learn something new every day !!

Is your problem the same ?

John





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Re: NFS4 home mounts owned by nfsnobody

2009-06-25 Thread John Austin
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:34 +0100, John Austin wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 01:15 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
  On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 20:53 +0100, John Austin wrote: 
   On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 14:15 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
I have a similar error message:

Jun 24 13:49:57 bolt rpc.idmapd[2481]: nss_getpwnam: name 
'bra...@hinge.endoframe.net' does not map into domain 'endoframe.net'

hinge is my NIS server machine (as well as the NFS server); this error
message occurs on the client.  Adding an entry for hinge to /etc/hosts
does not appear to have changed this.

# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 
localhost4.localdomain4 bolt bolt.endoframe.net
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 
localhost6.localdomain6
192.168.1.21 hinge hinge.endoframe.net

   
   
   The error message suggests something (rpc.idmapd ?)  is adding the
   server   hostname (hinge)  to the domainname which is causing
   the problem.
  
  Yup.
  
   Try putting just bolt (and not bolt.endoframe.net)
   and no 192.168.1.21 hinge hinge.endoframe.net in /etc/hosts
   and reboot
  
  That was the first thing I tried. (Though I tried it again just for good
  measure.)  The additions of bold.endoframe.net and the entry for hinge
  were just experiments that had no discernible impact.
  
   My NFS server is also my NIS, dhcpd, samba and DNS server
  
  My DNS server is on a separate box.  I'm not using DHCP.
  
   My NIS and DNS domains are both called jaa.org.uk
  
  I'm close to changing my NIS domain to endoframe.net; but I doubt that's
  the problem.
  
   On my clients I have
   naxos sysconfig 33# cat network
   HOSTNAME=naxos
   NETWORKING=yes
   NISDOMAIN=jaa.org.uk
  
  I was fully qualifying HOSTNAME here.  I'm not anymore.
  
   I am using network and NOT NetworkManager
  
  I've changed from NetworkManager to network.  The only impact of that
  I've noticed was on clients, where ypbind wouldn't find the server at
  boot when using NetworkManager.
  
  One thing I've noticed is that even though I've changed HOSTNAME
  in /etc/sysconfig/network to hinge (from hinge.endoframe.net),
  ypinit still sees hinge.endoframe.net:
  
  # /usr/lib64/yp/ypinit -m
  
  At this point, we have to construct a list of the hosts which will 
  run NIS
  servers.  hinge.endoframe.net is in the list of NIS server hosts.  
  Please continue to add
  the names for the other hosts, one per line.  When you are done 
  with the
  list, type a control D.
  next host to add:  hinge.endoframe.net
  next host to add:  
  
  I am wondering if this could be related to the problem.  Do you know
  where ypinit picks up this name from?  I've seen some howtos where it is
  not fully qualified (e.g.,
  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch30_:_Configuring_NIS#Initialize_Your_NIS_Domain).
  
  -- 
  Braden McDaniel bra...@endoframe.com
  
 
 From my NIS notes to myself - I don't like the number much !
 
 13. The NISDOMAIN (set in /etc/sysconfig/network) gets set (using 
 nisdomainname)
 when service ypbind start runs NOT when ypbind or ypbind -debug 
   
 is run from the command line. 
   
 It may be necessary to set it by hand (or run /etc/rd.d/ypbind start) 
 when debugging.
 
 This note reflects a painful experiences not realising that
 nisdomainname MUST be set before running ypinit !
 
 So when generating the NIS maps the first time I run service ypbind start 
 then stop
 Check nisdomainname and then run /usr/lib64/yp/ypinit -m to create the maps
 ---
 
 I am beginning to have a feeling that rpc.idmapd may have a bug in it or 
 perhaps does not interact correctly with something new in F11
 
 The man page for rpc.idmapd (and idmapd.conf) are completely obsolete as you 
 can no longer
 run it from a terminal in debug/interactive mode.
 
 I have tried playing with the Domain parameter in /etc/idmapd.conf
 but everything I try results in nobody entries
 
 I feel I have been very lucky to have nfs4 mapping working at all 
 Understanding would be a bonus !
 
 John
 
I've found my problem - not that I had one !!
Just a total lack of awareness !!

I did not have

Domain = jaa.org.uk

in /etc/idmapd.conf on the Server and all the clients 

Mine must have defaulted to the correct value somehow under F11
with the /etc/hosts entry set.
Whereas F10 seemed to work anyway

Learn something new every day !!

Is your problem the same ?

John





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Linux media server for Song LCD TV 40V5500

2009-06-25 Thread L
I have a Sony LCD TV 40V5500 model with DLNA. How to set up a media
server for the LCD TV as client. The netowrk connection is ok, but
can't find any server. hope some one offer advices.

best

Y

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Warning against preupgrade

2009-06-25 Thread Kevin Bowling
2 out of 5 failures.  F10-F11 is completely unusable for any kind of 
uncommon setup, i.e. LDAP login, Linux RAID, Xen DomU.  Anything other 
than one IDE hard disk with default layout really.


It worked well in the past, it doesn't now.  Just a heads up since 
nobody bothered mentioning this beforehand.  It should probably be added 
to common bugs and in a big banner on the release notes.


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Re: Warning against preupgrade

2009-06-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/25/2009 04:37 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote:
 2 out of 5 failures.  F10-F11 is completely unusable for any kind of
 uncommon setup, i.e. LDAP login, Linux RAID, Xen DomU.  Anything other
 than one IDE hard disk with default layout really.
 
 It worked well in the past, it doesn't now.  Just a heads up since
 nobody bothered mentioning this beforehand.  It should probably be added
 to common bugs and in a big banner on the release notes.

For it to qualify for common bugs or release notes, a bug report with
more details is needed. If you haven't filed anything yet, please do so

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

Rahul

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-25 Thread Vana
I have browsed through all the posts in this thread; have also done some Google 
search.  The yum problem under fc11 is still persisting.  I did a fresh install 
of fc11 and also updated to the latest version of yum.  But I am still not able 
to update using yum.  I also stumbled across some discussion in a python 
mailing list about using CONNECT versus something else (whose technical details 
I didn't understand).  Hence, as far as I am concerned, this is still an 
unresolved problem and a big stumbling block to using fc11.  I hope that this 
problem is being looked into and a solution made available.

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Re: Warning against preupgrade

2009-06-25 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:07:07 -0700
Kevin Bowling kev...@analograils.com wrote:

 2 out of 5 failures.  F10-F11 is completely unusable for any kind of 
 uncommon setup, i.e. LDAP login, Linux RAID, Xen DomU.  Anything other 
 than one IDE hard disk with default layout really.

2 out of 5 ? - I got 3 out of 4 fails including hitting error paths that
clearly were not tested because the error printing code didn't work but
spewed python traces - and yes its in bugzilla already.

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Some issues in F11

2009-06-25 Thread Bradley

Hello, everyone.

Well, I finally got myself in a position where I could finally update 
from F8 to F11 - much to the complaining of another family member.  
Since I wanted to reorganize my file system structure, I decided to just 
back it up and do a fresh install of F11 (and from the looks of things, 
I'm glad I did).  For the most part, after using it a couple of days, it 
seems to run okay with a few nuisances that I wanted to verify if anyone 
else is having the same issues or if there is a setting somewhere I'm 
not aware of.


- On varying software packages, occasionally (actually rarely) when I 
click on an icon or menu option I get a different menu or option than 
what I selected even though the display indicated that I successfully 
selected what I wanted.


- Upon installation, the system was unable to determine what type of 
monitor was available and doesn't give me the option to manually select 
the monitor's type or capabilities.  Since the xorg.conf file is not 
used in F11, I can't simply edit it with the display mode to use and 
when I create a new one it refuses to use the display settings I put in 
therby not taking advantage of the full capabilities of my monitor.


- When attempting to select multiple files  folder in Nautilus, instead 
of selecting the folders, it will not select them but expands them (and 
their contents) until after I have selected a few other files / folders 
first. - Sounds like a bug to me.


- I can no longer play MP3 files with Rythymbox and in Nautilus (audio 
preview) by default in F11 where it could in F8!  (This is a major issue 
with my family)


I am sure more issues will be posted later as I recognize them but if 
someone could offer suggestions, it would be helpful.


Bradley

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Encrypted Root with F11

2009-06-25 Thread Brian Mearns
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I apologize if this has been asked before, I checked the most recent
archives and didn't find anything.

I've successfully set up two separate LUKS encrypted logical-volumes,
one for home and one for root. Everything appeared to be working
fine, until I tried to delete my old root logical-volume and found
out it was still in use: the kernel was using it as the root,
even though mount had then replaced it at / with the encrypted
one. So I tried simply changing the root parameter to the kernel
(from grub.conf) so it points to the encrypted one, but when I
boot, the startup routine stops after a little while and just
hangs there until I ctrl-alt-del, and then it restarts. I don't
think it's reaching init, because I haven't seen any of the usual
Starting some server... [OK] messages. I guess that makes sense
if it's failing to load the root device, it wouldn't get to init.

So can anyone help me get this set up properly? I have a basic
understanding of the boot process and I guess that something needs
to be changed in initrd to tell it to unlock the encrypted root
disk before mounting it. But I have no idea how to do that.

On a related note, can anyone explain what's actually required
of the root FS loaded by the kernel? I tried setting up just a
1GB empty ext3 filesystem to use as the root, and then let mount
replace it with the encrypted one once init starts, but this also
caused the startup process to hang: apparently having a filesystem
alone is insufficient, there actually needs to be some stuff on it?

I'm using Fedora 11 on a Compaq Presario laptop (x86).

Many thanks for any help,
- -Brian

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Re: Some issues in F11

2009-06-25 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 07:09 -0500, Bradley wrote:
 - I can no longer play MP3 files with Rythymbox and in Nautilus (audio
 preview) by default in F11 where it could in F8!  (This is a major
 issue with my family)

You never could do that by default with Fedora 8, either.  All
versions of Fedora have *REQUIRED* you to install a MP3 decoder that
came from somewhere else (Livna, RPM Fusion, etc.).

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Re: Some issues in F11

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:09:55 -0500
Bradley wrote:

 - Upon installation, the system was unable to determine what type of 
 monitor was available and doesn't give me the option to manually select 
 the monitor's type or capabilities.

You can do a yum install system-config-display and get back
the X config app they removed from the standard distro because
X is now perfect and never makes any mistakes :-).

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Re: Encrypted Root with F11

2009-06-25 Thread Brian Mearns
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Sorry, I edited the message after signing it. The signature was
invalid, this was is correct.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Brian Mearnsbmea...@ieee.org wrote:
 I apologize if this has been asked before, I checked the most recent
 archives and didn't find anything.

 I've successfully set up two separate LUKS encrypted logical-volumes,
 one for home and one for root. Everything appeared to be working
 fine, until I tried to delete my old root logical-volume and found
 out it was still in use: the kernel was using it as the root,
 even though mount had then replaced it at / with the encrypted
 one. So I tried simply changing the root parameter to the kernel
 (from grub.conf) so it points to the encrypted one, but when I
 boot, the startup routine stops after a little while and just
 hangs there until I ctrl-alt-del, and then it restarts. I don't
 think it's reaching init, because I haven't seen any of the usual
 Starting some server... [OK] messages. I guess that makes sense
 if it's failing to load the root device, it wouldn't get to init.

 So can anyone help me get this set up properly? I have a basic
 understanding of the boot process and I guess that something needs
 to be changed in initrd to tell it to unlock the encrypted root
 disk before mounting it. But I have no idea how to do that.

 On a related note, can anyone explain what's actually required
 of the root FS loaded by the kernel? I tried setting up just a
 1GB empty ext3 filesystem to use as the root, and then let mount
 replace it with the encrypted one once init starts, but this also
 caused the startup process to hang: apparently having a filesystem
 alone is insufficient, there actually needs to be some stuff on it?

 I'm using Fedora 11 on a Compaq Presario laptop (x86).

 Many thanks for any help,
 - -Brian

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Re: Warning against preupgrade

2009-06-25 Thread John Aldrich
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Kevin Bowling wrote:
 2 out of 5 failures.  F10-F11 is completely unusable for any kind of
 uncommon setup, i.e. LDAP login, Linux RAID, Xen DomU.  Anything other
 than one IDE hard disk with default layout really.

 It worked well in the past, it doesn't now.  Just a heads up since
 nobody bothered mentioning this beforehand.  It should probably be added
 to common bugs and in a big banner on the release notes.

Well, F10 -F11 worked fine for me. However, I let F10 update itself to F11. 
I was prompted that there was a new version of Fedora available and did I 
want to install it? I allowed Fedora to upgrade itself and everything went 
smoothly. I have a total of 3 HDDs in this system and do NOT have a 
standard layout.

So, I think the phrase YMMV is appropriate here. That being said, I think 
that, yes, there may be some things that break in an upgrade like this, but 
it should be relatively easy to fix, I would think. Common sense says to 
back up any crucial config files in case they are overwritten.

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RSA key authentication failure since upgrade to F11

2009-06-25 Thread Andrew Hall
Hi there.

Since upgrading from F10 to F11 using the preupgrade procedure I can
no longer authenticate to SSH servers with my RSA key.

When I attempt to connect this is what happens server side...

sshd[12128]: error: RSA_public_decrypt failed:
error:0407006A:lib(4):func(112):reason(106)
sshd[12128]: error: RSA_public_decrypt failed:
error:04067072:lib(4):func(103):reason(114)

Here are some further details of the (presumably) related packages...

openssh-clients-5.2p1-2.fc11.i586
openssh-5.2p1-2.fc11.i586
openssl-0.9.8k-5.fc11.i686

It seems this is also happening on other distros...

https://bugs.launchpad.net/seahorse/+bug/357998

Any thoughts on what might be wrong here and how to resolve it would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks very much.

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need to change non-existant xorg.conf

2009-06-25 Thread Gary Stainburn
Using xrandr I get the following error message. I have been told that I need 
to change the virtual screen size in xorg.conf to fix this.

however, when I went to do this I found that the file does not exist anywhere 
on my PC.  Anyone know how I can have a working X/KDE system (I'm using it 
now with kmail to write this) without this file.

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Re: F11 yum strange behaviour

2009-06-25 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Anne Wilson wrote:
I believe the servers have just had a big maintenance job, which entailed 
rebuilding repo info (or something like that :-) ).  That might have affected 
you.  Meanwhile, you may need to 'yum clean all' and start afresh.  I had to, 
as it was using outdated metadata.


I had tried that last night, to no avail.  But, this morning, it updated 
no problem.  Go figure!


BTW, I'm curious about this dellsysidplugin2 - I have it on my netbook.  So 
far I haven't found out anything about it.


I don't know.  I assume it got installed because its its a Dell 
Dimension 3000 desktop.  It was a surprise to me too, since I've never 
installed on a Dell before.



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Re: Encrypted Root with F11

2009-06-25 Thread Brian Mearns
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Sometime prior to 09:29 25 Jun 2009, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Brian Mearns bmearns at ieee.org writes:


  So can anyone help me get this set up properly? I have a basic
  understanding of the boot process and I guess that something
  needs to be changed in initrd to tell it to unlock the encrypted
  root disk before mounting it. But I have no idea how to do that.

 you do not mention your /boot partition, where is it? is it on
 a clear (ext3) partition? grub cannot mount a encrypted partition.

 I set up a F11 recently with LVM-over-dm-crypt. To do it, I
 followed a nice guide found on the internet, basically you start
 with a live cd (the fedora one), create the dm-crypt volume,
 mount it, create the LVM setup, start the installation, mount
 all the stuff as it is supposed to be mount and it's done.


 (probably grub ask about the root partition just coz it need it
 for stuff like modules, logs, /dev and so on...)
[clipped]

Thanks for the response, Davide. /boot is a seperate, non-LVM
partition with its own ext3 fs. I know F11 has options for
encrypting during setup, but I've already got it set up, and would
now like to go back and switch over to an excrypted root filesystem
without having to reinstall. I think your suggestion of using a Live
CD implies that I would reinstall Fedora, which I don't want to do.

Also, it's not grub asking for the root, I'm referring to the root
parameter for the kernel.

Thanks,
- -Brian

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Re: Some issues in F11

2009-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 08:13 -0500, Bradley wrote:
 On 06/25/2009 07:45 AM, Tim wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 07:09 -0500, Bradley wrote:
 
  - I can no longer play MP3 files with Rythymbox and in Nautilus (audio
  preview) by default in F11 where it could in F8!  (This is a major
  issue with my family)
   
 
  You never could do that by default with Fedora 8, either.  All
  versions of Fedora have *REQUIRED* you to install a MP3 decoder that
  came from somewhere else (Livna, RPM Fusion, etc.).
 
 
 Really?  That's funny because on my F8 installation both were able to 
 play MP3's right out of the box.  That's strange.

Must have been a non-standard box. Fedora has never supported this.

poc

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Re: need to change non-existant xorg.conf

2009-06-25 Thread Ian Chapman

On 25/06/09 21:06, Gary Stainburn wrote:

Using xrandr I get the following error message. I have been told that I need
to change the virtual screen size in xorg.conf to fix this.

however, when I went to do this I found that the file does not exist anywhere
on my PC.  Anyone know how I can have a working X/KDE system (I'm using it
now with kmail to write this) without this file.


Modern Xorg doesn't usually need one. It probes the hardware and display 
system to work out what is required and applies a set of defaults. If 
you have additional requirements or need to change any of the behaviour 
then just create /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the required settings and it 
will use it.



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Re: Updates to F10 now put windows partition icons on desktop! [Solved]

2009-06-25 Thread Ian Chapman

On 25/06/09 15:06, Mike Cloaked wrote:


Ian, I had a quick look at the authorisations - you were spot on - there was
indeed an explicit authorisation for me as user set up 14 days ago as
permanent - though I do not remember adding this!  Anyway removing it solved
the problem.

Thanks for  your help and hints - it was useful


No worries Mike. I think I can make a good guess as to where the 
authorisation came from too. When you mount an internal disk by clicking 
on one of the disk icons in the Places menu in Gnome it prompts for 
authorisation (ie the root password). Underneath there is a tick box 
which says something like, remember this authorisation permanently., 
which is enabled by default. If you don't untick it, then it essentially 
creates an explicit policy for you. Anyway, glad it worked. :-)


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Re: Warning against preupgrade

2009-06-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 25 June 2009 13:53:43 John Aldrich wrote:
 On Thursday 25 June 2009, Kevin Bowling wrote:
  2 out of 5 failures.  F10-F11 is completely unusable for any kind of
  uncommon setup, i.e. LDAP login, Linux RAID, Xen DomU.  Anything other
  than one IDE hard disk with default layout really.
 
  It worked well in the past, it doesn't now.  Just a heads up since
  nobody bothered mentioning this beforehand.  It should probably be added
  to common bugs and in a big banner on the release notes.

 Well, F10 -F11 worked fine for me. However, I let F10 update itself to
 F11. I was prompted that there was a new version of Fedora available and
 did I want to install it? I allowed Fedora to upgrade itself and everything
 went smoothly. I have a total of 3 HDDs in this system and do NOT have a
 standard layout.

 So, I think the phrase YMMV is appropriate here. That being said, I think
 that, yes, there may be some things that break in an upgrade like this, but
 it should be relatively easy to fix, I would think. Common sense says to
 back up any crucial config files in case they are overwritten.

I used the same method and it has been a horrendous job to sort it out.  I had 
been using repos like updates-testing and kde-fedora's similar one and it 
looks as though that may have caused a lot of the problems.

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f11, firefox, cgi generated images?

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Horsley
With the firefox 3.5b4 in fedora 11, when I click on
an image attachment in a redhat bugzilla, it can't
seem to just display the dadgum image itself, it
knows it is a PNG, but insists on running an
external viewer program.

For instance the 1st screen short (mispelling :-)
attachment in my bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506552

I could swear it would just open the image directly
in firefox before. Is it supposed to be this way,
or is this a bug (it has no problems opening
links directly to PNG images, it seems to be the
fact that it is provided by the cgi interface
that upsets it).

I started with a brand new ~/.mozilla directory after
installing f11, so I don't think I have any weird
settings leftover from old versions.

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Re: f11, firefox, cgi generated images?

2009-06-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tom Horsley wrote:
 With the firefox 3.5b4 in fedora 11, when I click on
 an image attachment in a redhat bugzilla, it can't
 seem to just display the dadgum image itself, it
 knows it is a PNG, but insists on running an
 external viewer program.

 For instance the 1st screen short (mispelling :-)
 attachment in my bug:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506552

 I could swear it would just open the image directly
 in firefox before. Is it supposed to be this way,
 or is this a bug (it has no problems opening
 links directly to PNG images, it seems to be the
 fact that it is provided by the cgi interface
 that upsets it).

This occurs in Firefox 3.0 in F-10 as well.  I don't recall if image
attachment in bugzilla opened directly before or not.  I know bugzilla
was updated not all that long ago, so it could have changed.  The http
headers do indicate that it's an attachment rather than an inline
image I believe (note the Content-disposition header):

$ curl -I https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=348310
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:25:08 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat)
Content-disposition: attachment; filename=nview.png
Content-length: 2945
Cache-Control: max-age=2592000
Expires: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:25:08 GMT
Content-Type: image/png; name=nview.png
Set-Cookie: Bugzilla_javascript=X; domain=bugzilla.redhat.com; path=/; 
expires=Tue, 15-Sep-1998 21:49:00 GMT
Via: 1.1 bugzilla.redhat.com
Connection: close

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Re: Pungi and kickstart problems for F11 install

2009-06-25 Thread stan
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:54:18 +0200
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:

 stan wrote:
  I installed F11 x86_64 from the DVD.  I did a minimal install using
  only the base and development groups because I have several thousand
  extra packages I like to install.  Usually I do them via script, but
  decided to try something different this time around in order to make
  the process faster.  I had heard about pungi and kickstart, and they
  sounded like the way to go.
 
 Well, you can use the original DVD with a classic kickstart file
 which just tells Anaconda what to install from the DVD. You don't
 have to spin your own DVD.
 
 Kevin Kofler
 
That was the whole point of the exercise though.  Many of the packages
I install aren't on the DVD, so I wanted to create a 'DVD' that had
them on, even though it was just an iso on the hard drive, and
automatically install all of them. And then do what you said, though I'm
not sure how to do what you said, 'use the original DVD with a classic
kickstart file'. It's like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle.  I've
read several descriptions on the web and the Fedora website, and I'm
still not clear *how* the kickstart file is invoked.  It must be so
obvious that no one makes note of it.

By reading the anaconda code I found that the variable
ks='some_kickstart_file' passed to anaconda invokes it, but not *how*
that gets into the DVD.  As I said, I'm missing something obvious
here.  I want to do the install like an admin would if he or she was to
do it on a machine on the network, but I want to redo it on the current
machine.

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Re: Some issues in F11

2009-06-25 Thread stan
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:09:55 -0500
Bradley pursley...@comcast.net wrote:

 
 - I can no longer play MP3 files with Rythymbox and in Nautilus
 (audio preview) by default in F11 where it could in F8!  (This is a
 major issue with my family)
 
You can see here why mp3 is not supported for baseline Fedora.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/user-guide/f11/en-US/html/chap-User_Guide-Playing_multimedia.html#sect-User_Guide-Playing_multimedia-The_Fedora_Projects_approach_to_multimedia_support

You need to install the rpmfusion repositories and install a
version that has mp3 support.  Links to these other repositories are
available on the fedora site

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OtherRepositories

but also available here with instructions:

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f11.html

Arijit Sarkar posted another possible solution, the Fluendo codec.

Fluendo MP3 codec is now free. You can get it from here:
http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-mp3-decoder/

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Re: Encrypted Root with F11

2009-06-25 Thread davide
Brian Mearns bmearns at ieee.org writes:


 Thanks for the response, Davide. /boot is a seperate, non-LVM
 partition with its own ext3 fs. I know F11 has options for
 encrypting during setup, but I've already got it set up, and would
 now like to go back and switch over to an excrypted root filesystem
 without having to reinstall. I think your suggestion of using a Live
 CD implies that I would reinstall Fedora, which I don't want to do.

have you all the needed modules compiled into the kernel or into the initrd?
otherwise I would give a look at /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab


 
 Also, it's not grub asking for the root, I'm referring to the root
 parameter for the kernel.

Yes, I think you mean the root parameter into the grub config, it is a parameter
for the kernel. I would suppose is used by the kernel to find out where are
modules and filesystem.

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