Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
On 25/07/09 05:23, gil...@altern.org wrote: snip I'm eager to know if any of you managed to read wmv at Radio-Canada. There's even a link on the homepage: http://www.radio-canada.ca/ for RDI en Direct, which is also wmv. Silverlight is required on Windows for that link. Checked on my daughters PC. MS Vista. I don't read French, but *Silverlight* snip -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open SSH client error
Yes, I can ping the destination server. I already disabled firewall and selinux on both servers. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.comwrote: Richard R. Cahilig writes: Hello, I just installed fedora 11 64bit on our server, the problem is I cannot connect to other Linux server using ssh the error says ssh: connect to host 83.229.64.51 port 22: No route to host. Its strange because I already disabled the firewall and the selinux on this server and I can connect to that other Linux server using different computer and the firewall and selinux on that server is also disabled. Please help me. Can you ping the destination server. If you can, it's a firewall issue. If you cannot, you have a networking issue. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Richard R. Cahilig http://www.cahilig.org http://www.aklan-linux.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
Frank Murphy wrote: On 25/07/09 05:23, gil...@altern.org wrote: snip I'm eager to know if any of you managed to read wmv at Radio-Canada. There's even a link on the homepage: http://www.radio-canada.ca/ for RDI en Direct, which is also wmv. Silverlight is required on Windows for that link. Checked on my daughters PC. MS Vista. I don't read French, but *Silverlight* snip That is interestingbut do you consider is significant in any way? I mean this in light of Everything works fine on RHELv4 with mplayer and its plugins. It doesn't work with F11 and totem with gstreamer* installed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM, solarflow99solarflo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Ben Boeckel maths...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Farkas Levente wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: all of my system has a wrong openssl version all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet. i use fedora install dvd in this case! if it's do a half upgrade then it's also the bug of the installer. i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! just one month after the release! my system consist of 2059 In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first place, it just updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to do. You were basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11. as i wrote i use fedora install dvd! if it's jusr updated a few things then it's also the bug of the installer. This is a problem with the DVD that is hard to solve. Fully updated F10 is newer than F11 was when the DVD was spun (especially when the DVD is a month old)...so not everything got updated. There was a thread on it earlier on this list. It either breaks other things to fix or the DVD is just broken to update from after X days of release. so you're not the only one with F11 problems, I cant even install it, the bug isn't being looked at either, there nothing I can do. Wait for a re-spin... http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins-info/faq/fedora-media-and-the-re-spins http://www.kanarip.com/2009/07/new-fedora-11-respin-in-testing-plus-anaconda-updates FC -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open SSH client error
That's not the only problem I have, I also have this kernel error. WARNING: at arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mtrr/generic.c:407 generic_get_mtrr+0xc8/0x105() (Not tainted) Hardware name: ProLiant ML115 G1 mtrr: your BIOS has set up an incorrect mask, fixing it up. Modules linked in: Pid: 0, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 #1 Call Trace: [8104883f] warn_slowpath+0xbc/0xf0 [810493ad] ? vprintk+0x308/0x335 [813abf2c] ? _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x2c/0x42 [813abf2c] ? _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x2c/0x42 [8101e8b3] generic_get_mtrr+0xc8/0x105 [81649aca] mtrr_bp_init+0x222/0x59f [816533fb] ? early_gart_iommu_check+0x8a/0x25b [8164540f] setup_arch+0x41a/0x929 [813a9916] ? printk+0x41/0x43 [810603a9] ? raw_notifier_chain_register+0x9/0x2e [8163da83] start_kernel+0x99/0x3cc [8163d2c1] x86_64_start_reservations+0xac/0xb0 [8163d3ce] x86_64_start_kernel+0xe6/0xf5 I don't know if this ssh error is related to this one. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Richard Cahilig r.cahi...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, I can ping the destination server. I already disabled firewall and selinux on both servers. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.comwrote: Richard R. Cahilig writes: Hello, I just installed fedora 11 64bit on our server, the problem is I cannot connect to other Linux server using ssh the error says ssh: connect to host 83.229.64.51 port 22: No route to host. Its strange because I already disabled the firewall and the selinux on this server and I can connect to that other Linux server using different computer and the firewall and selinux on that server is also disabled. Please help me. Can you ping the destination server. If you can, it's a firewall issue. If you cannot, you have a networking issue. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Richard R. Cahilig http://www.cahilig.org http://www.aklan-linux.org -- Richard R. Cahilig http://www.cahilig.org http://www.aklan-linux.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
I didn't say using wmv was the problem If you don't, well, I do. Using proprietary formats on state television is ABSOLUTELY inacceptable. So fix the tv company. So, MPlayer must be included instead of Totem. From what I read everywhere, MPlayer does better. If the devil is behind MPlayer, the code is open, Totem can borrow it. A US software company is bound by US law. That tends to cause problems with all sorts of things particularly media software. Now, I see even Alan Cox is following this discussion... at least when you intervene :) I'm sure you and him have better things to do. I believe I made very clear that we can't always blame Microsoft for having a 1% market share. There also is need for amelioration on our side. Wrong distribution: See the Fedora Project mission statement. Maybe you should be using something else that doesn't care about freedom, isn't US based or hasn't got any financial backing so isn't worth sueing in the USA ? Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Disk performance in phoronix
T. Howell-Cintron wrote: T. Howell-Cintron wrote: It's also troubling that the disk I/O, computational performance, and more seem to be slower as new releases are made available. They benchmarked F7 through F10 and the different was sometimes dramatic. We call that progress? I'm sorry, the benchmark I was referring to can be found here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=fedora_test_2008num=1 -- Tom If I read correctly that bechmark it's nothing to look forward. They didn't even run the tests multiple times (or if they did they didn't tell it) and they admid using version of F10 with debugging information on so it could affect the results. Also we don't know what settings have been changed from the stock distribution and cannot redo the tests so those test results are as good as digital toiletpaper. -vpk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
On 27/07/09 09:12, Ed Greshko wrote: That is interestingbut do you consider is significant in any way? Yes, I always thought Moonlight was required. I mean this in light of Everything works fine on RHELv4 with mplayer and its plugins. Then is RHEL including *forbidden* codecs? It doesn't work with F11 and totem with gstreamer* installed. No forbidden items? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is there a burt on ifconfig for fedora11?
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 22:28 +0530, Sarkar, Kaushik wrote: NETMASK=255.225.255.0 ^^^ Should be 255 and not 225. ONBOOT=yes - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Disk performance in phoronix
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 21:24 -0500, T. Howell-Cintron wrote: T. Howell-Cintron wrote: I'm stunned by the results and though I'm no guru I suspect SELinux might have something to do with it. What can be done to achieve better - hopefully comparable - performance with Fedora? It's also troubling that the disk I/O, computational performance, and more seem to be slower as new releases are made available. They benchmarked F7 through F10 and the different was sometimes dramatic. We call that progress? -- Tom As far as I understand, the main problem with Phoronix's test suite is that it doesn't use native packages. Sure, Phoronix' copy of bzip2/apache/etc might be slower on Fedora 11 compared to Fedora 8, but it more-or-less says -zero- about the actual performance difference between the -native- versions of bzip2/apache/etc on Fedora 8 and Fedora 11. I'm not saying that Phoronix is wrong - I am saying that his testing methodology is invalid. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pulseaudio breaks after update today.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 18:02, jack craigja...@linuxlighthouse.com wrote: On 07/24/2009 03:05 AM, Stephan Sachse wrote: so where do we go from here? is there a pulseaudio support team? anyone? thx, jackc... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ /me -- Software is like sex, it's better when it's free! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release
On 07/27/2009 09:26 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM, solarflow99solarflo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Ben Boeckelmaths...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Farkas Levente wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: all of my system has a wrong openssl version all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've seen preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the main reason I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet. i use fedora install dvd in this case! if it's do a half upgrade then it's also the bug of the installer. i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!! just one month after the release! my system consist of 2059 In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first place, it just updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to do. You were basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11. as i wrote i use fedora install dvd! if it's jusr updated a few things then it's also the bug of the installer. This is a problem with the DVD that is hard to solve. Fully updated F10 is newer than F11 was when the DVD was spun (especially when the DVD is a month old)...so not everything got updated. There was a thread on it earlier on this list. It either breaks other things to fix or the DVD is just broken to update from after X days of release. so you're not the only one with F11 problems, I cant even install it, the bug isn't being looked at either, there nothing I can do. Wait for a re-spin... http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins-info/faq/fedora-media-and-the-re-spins http://www.kanarip.com/2009/07/new-fedora-11-respin-in-testing-plus-anaconda-updates FC On this subject, why isn't the standard anaconda package for F11 updated when bugs are found and fixed ? I, amongst others I'm sure, make their own local re-spins of F11 that we can install on our local systems. One of the major items needed in a respin is the anaconda installer as if this has bugs for our systems installing is very difficult. All other packages can be fixed by a later yum update. If anaconda updated packages were released as part of the normal F11 updates then respins built with pungi would have all of the latest installation bugs fixed. Terry -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Update Error on f10
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:43:24 -0400, vincent wrote: Hi, The following is the error file from an auto update. Can any of you good people tell me what is wrong and how to fix? It is while that I could not do update, help would be most appreciate. Thank you. Vinny Error Type: type 'exceptions.IndexError' Error Value: list index out of range File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2329, in module main() File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2326, in main backend.dispatcher(sys.argv[1:]) File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 606, in dispatcher self.dispatch_command(args[0], args[1:]) File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 584, in dispatch_command self.update_system() File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 1102, in update_system txmbr = self.yumbase.update() # Add all updates to Transaction File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 2829, in update tx_return.extend(self.update(po=self.getPackageObject(new))) File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 2965, in update updated_pkg = self.rpmdb.searchPkgTuple(updated)[0] Please try the following: 1) Open your favourite terminal and log in as root user by running: su - 2) Run yum clean metadata dbcache 3) Run yum -y update yum PackageKit-yum ; yum update -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 09:12, Ed Greshko wrote: That is interestingbut do you consider is significant in any way? Yes, I always thought Moonlight was required. I see... I mean this in light of Everything works fine on RHELv4 with mplayer and its plugins. Then is RHEL including *forbidden* codecs? They are not But maybe I do add them on :-) It doesn't work with F11 and totem with gstreamer* installed. No forbidden items? gstreamer* means included bad and ugly from rpmfusion. FWIW, totem does play wmv files in my environment. It just doesn't play them at the website noted. It will play wmv files in firefox if I address them as file:///home/. So, I've not invested time to find another site with a player that is providing that type of content to see if it may just be a website specific issue. Ed (Starting to wonder if a new thread isn't a bad idea.) -- For I perceive that behind this seemingly unrelated sequence of events, there lurks a singular, sinister attitude of mind. Whose? MINE! HA-HA! mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: My F!! is slowly coming apart.
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:16:25 -0500, Aaron wrote: Things in F11 are commiing apart. We have discussed the audio CD problem. Now watching you-tube videos are becoming impossible. The video starts but at some point the sound disappears (and sometimes the video stops as well). Once the audio stops all videos you try to watch have no audio. Has anyone noticed this phenomena? I suspect thhis is a firerfox-3.5.1-1 problem which was installed on July 9. I'd rather think the problem might be in the kernel update that touched parts of ALSA. On the other hand, youtube is flash, a separate package from Adobe. Can you go back to the previous firefox (+xulrunner for deps) and double-check? ( https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-7216 ) Do you still have the previous kernel in GRUB to select it during boot? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
KDE4 - Add menu to panel
Hi all, is it possibile to add a menu to the panel ? From the menu (right click on the app) I can add only applications; but I'd like to add an entire folder (with all submenu items) to the panel. In kde 3.5, I was used to ssh to all my office machines from a folder menu in a panel. Now I can't do it! Does it means that I have to put in the panel 20 different icons? :( Also, I was addicted to middle click in the desktop to have the list to all running applications; someone knows if exists something like that ? Thanks Alessandro -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: b43 problem.
Omri, If you cannot access to the access point or cannot see it, try update the kernel yum update kernel* , then install these two packages broadcom-wl kmod-wl. This is useful link: http://www.fedoraguide.info/index.php?title=Fedora10#Broadcom_b43_.28Official_driver.21.21.21.29 I hope that help you. Best Regards, Waleed Harbi Success is the sum of small efforts, repeated day in and day out. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Omri Schwarz ocsch...@mit.edu wrote: Hi, all. I'm running FC 10 on a Lenovo 3000 C100 laptop with a Broadcomm 4318 wireless driver. A problem developed today that shows as follows in dmesg: fuse init (API version 7.9) wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1f:33:c7:2d:c6 wlan0: authenticated wlan0: associate with AP 00:1f:33:c7:2d:c6 wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1f:33:c7:2d:c6 (capab=0x421 status=0 aid=3) wlan0: associated ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready b43-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2 b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped b43-phy0 debug: DMA-32 rx_ring: Used slots 1/64, Failed frames 0/0 = 0.0%, Average tries 0.00 b43-phy0 debug: DMA-32 tx_ring_AC_BK: Used slots 0/128, Failed frames 0/0 = 0.0%, Average tries 0.00 b43-phy0 debug: DMA-32 tx_ring_AC_BE: Used slots 2/128, Failed frames 0/5 = 0.0%, Average tries 1.20 b43-phy0 debug: DMA-32 tx_ring_AC_VI: Used slots 0/128, Failed frames 0/0 = 0.0%, Average tries 0.00 b43-phy0 debug: DMA-32 tx_ring_AC_VO: Used slots 2/128, Failed frames 0/2 = 0.0%, Average tries 1.00 b43-phy0 debug: DMA-32 tx_ring_mcast: Used slots 0/128, Failed frames 0/0 = 0.0%, Average tries 0.00 input: b43-phy0 as /devices/virtual/input/input11 b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26 15:32:10) b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized b43-phy0 debug: 32-bit DMA initialized Registered led device: b43-phy0::tx Registered led device: b43-phy0::rx Registered led device: b43-phy0::radio b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2 ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready This happens when I try to bring the interface up first time after booting. That is, it finds the local network, associates with the access point, and tries DHCP, and then instantly drops out. I'm wondering if it's the chip dying, since Google doesn't show any other cases like this. So, anyhow, here are the kernel details: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 19:03:24 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Anyone seen anything like this? Thanks for your attention. Omri Schwarz --- ocsch...@mit.edu Timeless wisdom of biomedical engineering: Noise is principally due to the presence of the patient. -- R.F. Farr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:02:46 +0100, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: On this subject, why isn't the standard anaconda package for F11 updated when bugs are found and fixed ? I, amongst others I'm sure, make their own local re-spins of F11 that we can install on our local systems. One of the major items needed in a respin is the anaconda installer as if this has bugs for our systems installing is very difficult. All other packages can be fixed by a later yum update. If anaconda updated packages were released as part of the normal F11 updates then respins built with pungi would have all of the latest installation bugs fixed. I think it is partly a time and priority issue. In the past there was a lot of point of maintaining a stable anaconda since it would have little use. Doing that would take time away from work on the development version. So it didn't seem to be a good trade off. Nowadays I'd like to see that rethought. There is more emphasis on people doing custom spins (since livecd-creator makes it easy) and I think anaconda fixes for stable releases have a lot more value now than they did in the past. However, I am not sure what the resource situation is. The anaconda guys seem to have been doing a lot of scrambling to get ready for F11. And there appears to be a lot of work on anaconda being done for F12. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open SSH client error
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Richard Cahiligr.cahi...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the only problem I have, I also have this kernel error. WARNING: at arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mtrr/generic.c:407 generic_get_mtrr+0xc8/0x105() (Not tainted) Hardware name: ProLiant ML115 G1 mtrr: your BIOS has set up an incorrect mask, fixing it up. Modules linked in: Pid: 0, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 #1 Call Trace: [8104883f] warn_slowpath+0xbc/0xf0 [810493ad] ? vprintk+0x308/0x335 [813abf2c] ? _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x2c/0x42 [813abf2c] ? _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x2c/0x42 [8101e8b3] generic_get_mtrr+0xc8/0x105 [81649aca] mtrr_bp_init+0x222/0x59f [816533fb] ? early_gart_iommu_check+0x8a/0x25b [8164540f] setup_arch+0x41a/0x929 [813a9916] ? printk+0x41/0x43 [810603a9] ? raw_notifier_chain_register+0x9/0x2e [8163da83] start_kernel+0x99/0x3cc [8163d2c1] x86_64_start_reservations+0xac/0xb0 [8163d3ce] x86_64_start_kernel+0xe6/0xf5 I don't know if this ssh error is related to this one. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Richard Cahilig r.cahi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I can ping the destination server. I already disabled firewall and selinux on both servers. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Richard R. Cahilig writes: Hello, I just installed fedora 11 64bit on our server, the problem is I cannot connect to other Linux server using ssh the error says ssh: connect to host 83.229.64.51 port 22: No route to host. Its strange because I already disabled the firewall and the selinux on this server and I can connect to that other Linux server using different computer and the firewall and selinux on that server is also disabled. Please help me. Can you ping the destination server. If you can, it's a firewall issue. If you cannot, you have a networking issue. 83.229.64.51 you can use nmap to check if port 22 is accessable nmap -P0 83.229.64.51 -p22 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Richard R. Cahilig http://www.cahilig.org http://www.aklan-linux.org -- Richard R. Cahilig http://www.cahilig.org http://www.aklan-linux.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Three kinds of packages
Once upon a time, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com said: Save it for some politics group, anyone who doesn't think scanning phone conversations and email without warrant and torture are okay should go to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh. This is not the place. You are the one that brought the political crap up here (and you can stick Rush Limbaugh where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned). This has been discussed on the LKML, please read there. The last opinion I saw of any authority said that using header files did not make it a derived work. Please discuss that elsewhere. Again, you brought it up here. There's more than header files involved in some of these things. People treat use of header files or linking as the line between derived and not derived, but it isn't as clear cut as that (ask a lawyer). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE4 - Add menu to panel
Alessandro Boggiano wrote: Hi all, is it possibile to add a menu to the panel ? From the menu (right click on the app) I can add only applications; but I'd like to add an entire folder (with all submenu items) to the panel. Not that I'm aware, only full menu and individual apps are possible atm. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:12:26 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: On 25/07/09 05:23, gil...@altern.org wrote: snip I'm eager to know if any of you managed to read wmv at Radio-Canada. There's even a link on the homepage: http://www.radio-canada.ca/ for RDI en Direct, which is also wmv. Silverlight is required on Windows for that link. Checked on my daughters PC. MS Vista. I don't read French, but *Silverlight* snip That is interestingbut do you consider is significant in any way? I mean this in light of Everything works fine on RHELv4 with mplayer and its plugins. It doesn't work with F11 and totem with gstreamer* installed. It works fine here on F11-xfce doing the FireFox-mplayer dance with codecs courtesy of the fine folks at rpmfusion. -- cmg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release
On 07/27/2009 01:21 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:02:46 +0100, Terry Barnabyter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: On this subject, why isn't the standard anaconda package for F11 updated when bugs are found and fixed ? I, amongst others I'm sure, make their own local re-spins of F11 that we can install on our local systems. One of the major items needed in a respin is the anaconda installer as if this has bugs for our systems installing is very difficult. All other packages can be fixed by a later yum update. If anaconda updated packages were released as part of the normal F11 updates then respins built with pungi would have all of the latest installation bugs fixed. I think it is partly a time and priority issue. In the past there was a lot of point of maintaining a stable anaconda since it would have little use. Doing that would take time away from work on the development version. So it didn't seem to be a good trade off. Nowadays I'd like to see that rethought. There is more emphasis on people doing custom spins (since livecd-creator makes it easy) and I think anaconda fixes for stable releases have a lot more value now than they did in the past. However, I am not sure what the resource situation is. The anaconda guys seem to have been doing a lot of scrambling to get ready for F11. And there appears to be a lot of work on anaconda being done for F12. I would have thought that Anaconda should be designed so that it was as Fedora distribution neutral as possible, with any special distribution bits separated out. This aids maintenance, reliability etc etc ... If that is/was the case then very little extra resources would be required to keep a F11 anaconda maintained ... Purely from a publicity viewpoint, the main feelings of a distribution come from reviewers and initial users when they first install it. Their views come from how easy and well the installation went. From this perspective alone I think it should be a high priority to fix any core Anaconda issues and ship an updated ISO release (say F11.1) ASAP. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: exim: SELinux
On 07/26/2009 05:45 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding. I've been on the road and unable to access my Fedora box. So after a little grief with SELinux and permissions I have a log file of exim. I'd post it here but it's 724 lines long. I looked for boot in the file but came up empty. Is there some snippet of the file that I could post? Frank On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Gordon Messmeryiny...@eburg.com wrote: On 07/14/2009 07:33 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: Here's what I did: - as root, I ran '/etc/init.d/exim stop' - as root, I ran 'exim -bd -d+all/tmp/ex.file 21' - as a normal user, I ran 'fetchmail' In the past, this would result in an AVC error; but not this time. BTW, there was one new message in my mail file as a result of this. Sadly, starting exim in that way will not give it the same SELinux context as it would get when run by the init process. If you stop the service and service exim start, it should get its old context, and the AVC messages should return. That'll get you back to where you can debug the problem. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Just compress the log file. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE4 - Add menu to panel
Hi all, Hi! is it possibile to add a menu to the panel ? From the menu (right click on the app) I can add only applications; but I'd like to add an entire folder (with all submenu items) to the panel. There was such a method: partial Lancelot plasmoid that could be placed on the pannel. For now it is broken but it will be fixed in future release. If you want it could be done in other way, useing Folder view plasmoid. Just add it and point it to the folder where you'l put executables (scripts or symlinks). Thanks Alessandro -- Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE4 - Add menu to panel
Il 27/07/2009 15:34, Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich ha scritto: is it possibile to add a menu to the panel ? From the menu (right click on the app) I can add only applications; but I'd like to add an entire folder (with all submenu items) to the panel. useing Folder view plasmoid. Just add it and point it to the folder where you'l put executables (scripts or symlinks). Thanks Dmitrij, it's quite ugly (I can't use different icons), but it works! ;) Ciao Alessandro -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fedora consumer satisfaction statistics
Is there any way to rank one's satisfactions with different components of fedora and the release as a whole? It would be really nice if people could express their displeasure or lack thereof without (or in addition to) sending emails to the list. For example, a lot of people bitch about pulseaudio, networkmanager, and say things like fedora 11 worst then ever release. But I'd like to know statistics on these things rather than just seeing a random samples of emails that say this is broken and works for me. I know one can file bug reports and watch bug reports, but I'm not sure if there is a way to tell how happy people are with something. For example, I might file a bunch of bug reports against a component even though I'm in general pretty happy with it. And I might file a single bug report against something that doesn't work at all for me (for me, it's pulseaudio and Intel video). And I don't file any bug reports against KDE, which I stopped using when 4.x was introduced into Fedora because it was so broken at that time. I'd like to see a plot versus Fedora release of the user satisfaction of KDE... I suspect it plummeted with fedora 8 (or whatever release started using 4.x) and isn't back to where it was before. On a related topic, is there a way to find per component statistics on the percentage of bug reports that are fixed before the next release? Thanks, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LMV2 boot from another Volume Group?
Tony Nelson wrote: I have two hard drives I want to boot from, each with its own LVM2 Volume Group. I can boot from the one on the same drive as Grub, but not from the other one. Apparantly, only Logical Volumes from the boot drive's Volume Group are detected before / is mounted (something about activation, perhaps?). Googling only shows how to detect Volume Groups and activate Logical Volumes after / is mounted. I can't find any kernel LVM parameters that would affect this (and I'd need the LVM stuff built-in to the kernel, not as a module). Can Linux use a Volume Group that isn't on Grub's boot volume? Must I add a boot partition on the second disk and chainload to it? What do you mean by boot from each drive? Are you talking about selecting what drive to boot from in the BIOS, or selecting what drive is / by setting the root=something in /boot/grub.conf? Second question - do the two VGs have different names? Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Option to select desktop
RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Thank you for the reply. I have installed 'switchdesk' package and also created the /etc/sysconfig.desktop file, but it not working. What should I do next? Kishore First thing - please do not top post, and post in HTML. Please see Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines If you use /etc/sysconfig/desktop, only use one DESKTOP line - that will be the default desktop. If you use switchdesk, you run it as a user after you log on, and it sets the desktop for that user. Mikkel -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Three kinds of packages
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 17:26:28 -0400, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: I would just like to remind people that there are not two (Fedora and non-free) kinds of package, but three, the totally free (Fedora), the close source but legal (fglrx and similar vendor drivers), and the only legal in the free world, restricted in fascist countries. Free for noncommercial use is also another important category. These aren't free enough for Fedora, but there are a number of these type in the rpmfusion nonfree repository. Another good point. Just because some code isn't suitable for inclusion in Fedora doesn't mean that you are breaking some law by installing it. In some cases the code might actually be illegal, in others it means the license isn't worded right and it's a religious matter. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
Ron Yorston r...@tigress.co.uk wrote: john wendel wrote: On 07/23/2009 01:15 AM, Ron Yorston wrote: According to a thread on the fedora-test list it's possible to prevent the gvfs-fuse-daemon starting by setting an environment variable: On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 23:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: To get rid of it: GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE=1 export GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE However, I've been unable to find out where to set that environment variable. Although gvfsd is run as the user logging in it doesn't have that users environment. Maybe /etc/profile ??? No, that's not it. OK, I finally found a way to inject the required variable into gvfsd's environment. Create this file: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/00-gvfs-disable-fuse.sh containing: GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE=1 export GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE The name of the file is important as it has to be run before the script that starts dbus (00-start-message-bus.sh). You could set the variable in 00-start-message-bus.sh itself, but since it isn't marked as a configuration file it might get clobbered by an update. Ron -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Option to select desktop
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If you use /etc/sysconfig/desktop, only use one DESKTOP line - that will be the default desktop. If you use switchdesk, you run it as a user after you log on, and it sets the desktop for that user. I forgot to add that if you do not have more then one desktop installed, non of this is going to work. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open SSH client error
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Richard R. Cahilig writes: Hello, I just installed fedora 11 64bit on our server, the problem is I cannot connect to other Linux server using ssh the error says ssh: connect to host 83.229.64.51 port 22: No route to host. Its strange because I already disabled the firewall and the selinux on this server and I can connect to that other Linux server using different computer and the firewall and selinux on that server is also disabled. Please help me. Can you ping the destination server. If you can, it's a firewall issue. If you cannot, you have a networking issue. Actually that's not correct for several reasons, the destination may not respond to ping and unless they are connected by a single cable some network device between them may drop ICMP. I would suggest using tcpdump to capture the packets, save in a file, and then examine with either tcpdump (should be enough) or wireshark (and probably you want the GUI for that as well). -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:32:52 +0100 Ron Yorston wrote: OK, I finally found a way to inject the required variable into gvfsd's environment. Create this file: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/00-gvfs-disable-fuse.sh Wow! Thanks for digging up that insanely obscure directory. Looks like that is the place I can eradicate the input method stuff that whines at me sometimes as well. (I'm always on the lookout for how to disable stuff - linux would be at least 1000 times easier to use if they'd just document how to disable everything even if they aren't gonna write any other documentation :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with F11 and Broadcom b43 wireless
I never got a reply to this query. I tried everything I could think of with Network Manager to get it to work with no success. I finally reverted to Fedora 10. I installed the exact same drivers in F10 that I tried in F11 with b43-fwcutter. The wireless has never disconnected itself in F10. So I guess I'll forgo F11 on my laptop and hope that F12 works better. Andrew Robinson On 07/19/2009 12:18 AM, Andrew Robinson wrote: I installed Fedora 11 on my laptop with a Broadcom bcm4306 wireless adapter. I installed the b43 driver pretty much the same way that I did for Fedora 10 as described at this link: http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43. The wireless makes a connection and works for awhile. Then it seems to lose the connection. Network Manager throws up the dialog asking for all the basic wireless info including password key. However, it never seems to make the connection again, no matter how many times I press the OK button and watch the Network Manager icon spin for a minute or so. I do not have this problem with Fedora 10. The wireless stays connected. Anyone know if I'm doing something wrong in Network Manager or if there is a problem in Fedora 11? Thanks! Andrew Robinson -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with F11 and Broadcom b43 wireless
On 27/07/09 15:45, Andrew Robinson wrote: I never got a reply to this query. I tried everything I could think of with Network Manager to get it to work with no success. I finally reverted to Fedora 10. I installed the exact same drivers in F10 that I tried in F11 with b43-fwcutter. The wireless has never disconnected itself in F10. So I guess I'll forgo F11 on my laptop and hope that F12 works better. Google autoten -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora consumer satisfaction statistics
David L wrote: Is there any way to rank one's satisfactions with different components of fedora and the release as a whole? It would be really nice if people could express their displeasure or lack thereof without (or in addition to) sending emails to the list. For example, a lot of people bitch about pulseaudio, networkmanager, and say things like fedora 11 worst then ever release. But I'd like to know statistics on these things rather than just seeing a random samples of emails that say this is broken and works for me. What you are looking for, and many here lately are missing, is a personal 'blog'. Some that post here have this *help me with a Fedora problem* list confused with a 'rant and rave' personal blog. Or general chat list. Which it is not. I know one can file bug reports and watch bug reports, but I'm not sure if there is a way to tell how happy people are with something. For example, I might file a bunch of bug reports against a component even though I'm in general pretty happy with it. And I might file a single bug report against something that doesn't work at all for me (for me, it's pulseaudio and Intel video). And I don't file any bug reports against KDE, which I stopped using when 4.x was introduced into Fedora because it was so broken at that time. I'd like to see a plot versus Fedora release of the user satisfaction of KDE... I suspect it plummeted with fedora 8 (or whatever release started using 4.x) and isn't back to where it was before. It has been my experience here that few, very few, people write in and say that 'everything is beautiful. Everything works out-of-the-box. All is wonderful. :-) After all it is a help list not a praise list. Some people, the majority, write here because something just does not work correctly for them. Or just how they think it should work. Many here are knowledgeable and try to help. Some people, a vocal minority, write here to 'rant and rave'. To spout off about how bad Fedora is. Or how the way Fedora is is bad because their_reason_goes_here. I tolerate those posts for two, sometimes three, posts then I have a special place to store their posts from then on. It's name is /null/void. :-) On a related topic, is there a way to find per component statistics on the percentage of bug reports that are fixed before the next release? This someone else will have to comment on. Adam might know. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is there a burt on ifconfig for fedora11?
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/7/26 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 18:32 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/7/26 Sarkar, Kaushik kaushik.sar...@netapp.com: Don’t know from where ifconfig getting netmask as 255.255.0.0 when I set it for 255.255.255.0 I do... r...@kaushik_fedora11 / cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 snip NETMASK=255.225.255.0 Read that very very carefully... ;o) I think because 255.225.255.0 is not a valid netmask, it's defaulting to 255.255.0.0 (aren't a second pair of eyes wonderful!) it's a valid netmask but it is one that is highly unlikely to work because it appears to have a typo No it isn't a valid netmask - that was my point - perhaps I should have been clearer about the fact it has a typo and that's why it wouldn't work. A valid netmask is a set of 1s, followed by a set of 0s. The posted netmask (with assumed typo) is: 1111 That does not fit the definition of a netmask and it certainly can't be mapped to a prefix, because the Prefix is calculated by the the number of preceding 1s! This sounds as if you are reversing the prefix and netmask definitions. A netmask is anded with two IP addresses before they are compared, a prefix is as you describe. Consider: iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -s 10.5.12.0/255.255.252.192 -j ACCEPT This relates to a CIDR block in 10.5.x.x where any packet coming from a server (/24 IP ending 0..63) is accepted, packets from user machines are not. Thus user machines do not have the same capabilities as servers, and users think they are in a /24 subnet talking to their own servers. Try this to verify it's valid: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 192.168.12.0/255.255.252.192 \ -j LOG --log-level debug --log-prefix servr: iptables -L INPUT -nv If you are about to make the point that this is a special use case, I agree, and I'm sure in his case the 225 was a finger-check, agreed there. But netmask can be useful in some cases where multiple rules would otherwise be needed. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't play audio CDs in F11.
On 27/07/09 16:38, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 17:30 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 26/07/09 23:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: What doesn't work is the part that HAL is supposed to do. The CD is sensed in the drive. The system tries to read it, and gets the usual error when trying to read an audio CD. Do icon and no program launch after the audio CD is detected. But you can still access the CD if you launch a program that reads/plays CDs. It is not always so. I have tried to access an audio CD from rhythmbox to no avail. What program did you launch? XMMS, Sound Jouncier, Audacious, Gxine, Grip, Decisable, CMplayer. I don't use Rythmbox, so I didn't try it. I am not even sure how to play a CD using it. I tried some of those applications. grip played the CD but no sound was heard. Audio Extractor produced sound for a while then the sound disappeared although he playing continued. Rhythembox would not play the CD. So all is still not well. Same here, gxine would play the CD but no sound (due to the pulseaudio - alsa problem) -- Erik. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:42:57 -0400, William wrote: I have external receptacles on my motherboard at the back of my computer box -- one light green for incoming sound, and one light red (pink) for a microphone. Double checked visually and in my motherboard manual. *However* my tv tuner card has no sound output receptacle, did not come with a line to use as an external connection line and shows no external hookups in its manual. Yes, it's a known fact by now. Nobody asks you to put a cable where you *cannot* put a cable. ;-) The remaining problem, however, is that there must be a theory about how your tv card produces audio then? I suspect that there is a device in /dev that you read to get the sound, and pass it to the sound hardware. Maybe more then one if the card produces both analog and digital sound output, and/or has an FM tuner. That is commonly the case, and I have been told that the only common application able to do the digital is mythtv (that was FC9 info, may no longer be the case). I highly commend trying vlc first, it is less complex to get working than mythtv. Yes, damned by faint praise. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer one
Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 10:59 +0200, roland wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:43:52 +0200, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: roland wrote: I tried to do this, but he complains saying the stick is not bootable so I should use /sbin/parted Parted only allows to make a ext2 filesystem. How should I do this. Why does it work out of the box with you guys? First of all, parted will make many other file systems besides ext2. From the man page: mkfs partition fs-type Make a filesystem fs-type on partition. fs-type can be one of fat16, fat32, ext2, linux-swap, or reiserfs. But I believe what they are asking you to do is make sure the boot flag is set on the partition. what should be the capacity of the stick? I've been able to get live-iso to work with a 4 Gb USB key disk (even with the DVD) You can get there with 4GB, but IIRC there was little/no room for a swap partition. Also no need on any machine I used, but not all machines have large memory. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't play audio CDs in F11.
Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 27/07/09 16:38, Aaron Konstam wrote: I tried some of those applications. grip played the CD but no sound was heard. Audio Extractor produced sound for a while then the sound disappeared although he playing continued. Rhythembox would not play the CD. So all is still not well. Same here, gxine would play the CD but no sound (due to the pulseaudio - alsa problem) One thing to check on the applications that play the CD, but do not produce sound is how they are set up to get sound from the CD. I have found that a lot of programs still default to using the analog line from the CD to the sound card, yet most new machines do not have this cable, so you need to reconfigure them to use digital sound over the interface. You then end up suing the PCM mixer control instead of the CD control to control volume... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone have F11 working with ICH9 RAID?
To answer my query of 2009-07-12 14:54: Does anyone have F11 installed onto an x86_64 machine with Intel fake RAID - Intel Matrix Storage Manager - ICH9? Yes, I do now. When F10 failed to recognize the controller in RAID mode, I turned it off in the BIOS, and now the F11 install DVD does see the controller, but appears to get confused about why there is mdraid (my kludge to get RAID on my system) behind a dmraid controller. ... ... and that was precisely the problem. F10 dmraid was incapable of detecting the BIOS RAID controller in my laptop (though apparently F9 was, and F11 definitely is). While the Intel/Lenovo docs don't mention it, the Intel Matrix Storage Manager does, however, write some meta-data to the disk header, so merely turning off RAID in the BIOS was not The Right Thing To Do. The F11 install medium comes along and sees both the Intel meta-data [ = dmraid] and the mdraid meta-data, and the combination causes it to descend through confusion into madness. The solution was to boot up one last time in F10 and use mdadm to zero out the mdraid meta-data my data. Next, go into the BIOS and re-enable RAID. Even if you have done The Right Thing previously and clobbered the BIOS RAID meta-data at F10 install, the Intel/Lenovo docs _do_ explain how to re-write it (and switch between RAID 0 and Raid 1, if you wish). Cf. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510772 for more detail. At that point, F11 anaconda sees only the BIOS RAID and happily proceeds with the install, and I'm able to restore my stuff from backups. I foolishly forgot to do before after benchmarks, but it feels at least as responsive as F10 with mdraid and, to me, is intellectually more satisfying. YMMV, Joe -- If I can save you any time, give it to me, I'll keep it with mine. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: acer one
Bill Davidsen wrote: Craig White wrote: I've been able to get live-iso to work with a 4 Gb USB key disk (even with the DVD) You can get there with 4GB, but IIRC there was little/no room for a swap partition. Also no need on any machine I used, but not all machines have large memory. One way around that is to enable the swap partition on the hard drive after the install has created it. After all, the install DVD has even less room for a swap partition. :) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
max memory for 32bit fedora?
Hi all; whats the max memory (Ram) that 32bit Fedora can actually use? I'm getting a laptop with a quad core chip and 8G of ram, can I take full advantage of this with 32bit Fedora or do I need to run x86_64? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't play audio CDs in F11.
I've had no problems previously playing and extracting music CD's on F11 in the past. When I put music CD in now I get the errors shown below. Paolo Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: __ratelimit: 2 callbacks suppressed Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 2 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 3 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0 Jul 27 08:21:42 peglaptop10 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 27/07/09 16:38, Aaron Konstam wrote: I tried some of those applications. grip played the CD but no sound was heard. Audio Extractor produced sound for a while then the sound disappeared although he playing continued. Rhythembox would not play the CD. So all is still not well. Same here, gxine would play the CD but no sound (due to the pulseaudio - alsa problem) One thing to check on the applications that play the CD, but do not produce sound is how they are set up to get sound from the CD. I have found that a lot of programs still default to using the analog line from the CD to the sound card, yet most new machines do not have this cable, so you need to reconfigure them to use digital sound over the interface. You then end up suing the PCM mixer control instead of the CD control to control volume... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora consumer satisfaction statistics
--- On Mon, 7/27/09, David Boles dgbo...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Boles dgbo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: fedora consumer satisfaction statistics To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 7:56 AM David L wrote: Is there any way to rank one's satisfactions with different components of fedora and the release as a whole? It would be really nice if people could express their displeasure or lack thereof without (or in addition to) sending emails to the list. For example, a lot of people bitch about pulseaudio, networkmanager, and say things like fedora 11 worst then ever release. But I'd like to know statistics on these things rather than just seeing a random samples of emails that say this is broken and works for me. What you are looking for, and many here lately are missing, is a personal 'blog'. Some that post here have this *help me with a Fedora problem* list confused with a 'rant and rave' personal blog. Or general chat list. Which it is not. I know one can file bug reports and watch bug reports, but I'm not sure if there is a way to tell how happy people are with something. For example, I might file a bunch of bug reports against a component even though I'm in general pretty happy with it. And I might file a single bug report against something that doesn't work at all for me (for me, it's pulseaudio and Intel video). And I don't file any bug reports against KDE, which I stopped using when 4.x was introduced into Fedora because it was so broken at that time. I'd like to see a plot versus Fedora release of the user satisfaction of KDE... I suspect it plummeted with fedora 8 (or whatever release started using 4.x) and isn't back to where it was before. It has been my experience here that few, very few, people write in and say that 'everything is beautiful. Everything works out-of-the-box. All is wonderful. :-) After all it is a help list not a praise list. Some people, the majority, write here because something just does not work correctly for them. Or just how they think it should work. Many here are knowledgeable and try to help. Some people, a vocal minority, write here to 'rant and rave'. To spout off about how bad Fedora is. Or how the way Fedora is is bad because their_reason_goes_here. I tolerate those posts for two, sometimes three, posts then I have a special place to store their posts from then on. It's name is /null/void. :-) On a related topic, is there a way to find per component statistics on the percentage of bug reports that are fixed before the next release? This someone else will have to comment on. Adam might know. -- David The word blog has been mentioned many times before, has it made a difference? IMHO, people have the right to rant/bitch/moan/groan/.../etc They should have added that to mail name: instead of Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Have this: Community ranting/bitching/moaning/groaning about Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com We see many messages that are interesting, and there sometimes is no way that we can help/advice (WE DONT HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS, pulseaudio works, I can play CD's, WMV play fine, I have mplayer, gnome-mplayer, gecko-mediaplayer, .., etc) I don't update (except kernels), and believe me here Fedora has dropped the ball on this one(Regular Fedora and *NOT* Rawhide). I luckily have computers that let most things JUST WORK(TM). As far as BUGS GO, there are 321 bugs open? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=446451hide_resolved=1 Shows 321 bugs open bugs blocking the Fedora 11 target bug. What should be done with these bugs? KDE 4.X has come along nicely, (Thanks to many like Rex and Kevin(yes even though you hate nvdia crap :) ) things have improved and getting better and better. There are many configurations and customizations that a default installation does not work for everybody and as such people have problems with pulseaudio, rythmbox, ..., etc. Things were working, but an update or group of updates broke it? Is it the users fault for applying the updates, NO. Is the users fault that while applying updates, things break, NO. People write here for help, and sometimes get it and sometimes they need to write again because people might not know the answer or it is just a trivial solution. Anyhow, about the statistics, people have suggested a Web SURVEY, the idea has been knocked out several times. There is also SMOLT and (not everybody might send in their profile, why? because the card is not supported, module is not in kernel, network encrypted/not enabled, modem is a winmodem and needs drivers to connet), etc. There lies, damn lies and statistics. What are statistics good for? I wish I could help
Re: eth0 alias issue
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: T. Howell-Cintron wrote: When I disable NetworkManager and enable /etc/rc.d/init.d/network everything works as expected. Because this is a headless server I'm not sure what the repercussions of reverting from NM to the old 'network' script but as long as it works I'm not going to complain. There shouldn't be any. You may run into problems on some future release, but you should get warning about it in the release notes. I hope you don't imply that NM would be the only network management allowed. Bad enough that the default network control is crippled, please don't talk away our crutch. There is still a need for machine which function without a user logged in, and which are determinant in behavior on boot and recovery from suspend and hibernate. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome responsiveness
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:42:29 -0500 Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: Is it just me, or does gnome (don't have kde installed so can't test that) seem really slow? And I mean, like when hitting an button on a menu to close it, to hit a menu such as File/edit/etc.. Seems most of the time, it takes a number of tries to get the button or menu pushed or whatever. Takes time to sometimes open/close a program. I didn't have any problems with F10 and my system isn't exactly ancient, as it's dual athlon cpu, 64 bit, with 4Gb ram, with decently new nvidia card. Have tried ext4 and ext3 and no difference (both 64 bit os installed). I even tried top and don't see anything running high, as processor or memory. Anyone else? My system isn't even half as powerful as yours and gnome runs just fine here - F11 x86_64. In fact, I would call it snappy, menus open as fast as I access them, system response is fast. I *have* turned off many services I don't use or need and I *am* using a custom compiled kernel. But that shouldn't make that big a difference. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open SSH client error
I just installed fedora 11 64bit on our server, the problem is I cannot connect to other Linux server using ssh the error says ssh: connect to host 83.229.64.51 port 22: No route to host. Its strange because I already disabled the firewall and the selinux on this server and I can connect to that other Linux server using different computer and the firewall and selinux on that server is also disabled. Please help me. I would like to see your routing table please. I assume the ssh route should go out through your default gateway. Please do netstat -rn to see the routing table before you try to do ssh so we can see what route the ssh packets are trying to take. It might not be useful, but I am curious, to see what is in the routing table when ssh says no route to host. Can you, again, do netstat -rn while ssh complains no route to host please. You may wish to sanitize your IP addresses for security reasons. I wouldn't want anyone to know there is a Linux server, on the Internet, with it's firewall and Selinux disabled. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: max memory for 32bit fedora?
x86_64 is the best option for you. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Kempterke...@kevinkempterllc.com wrote: Hi all; whats the max memory (Ram) that 32bit Fedora can actually use? I'm getting a laptop with a quad core chip and 8G of ram, can I take full advantage of this with 32bit Fedora or do I need to run x86_64? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Streaming video capture problem
I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video. Video located here: http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot Any suggestions? -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pulseaudio breaks after update today
R. G. Newbury wrote: Jack craig wrote: snip the cpu use goes through the roof and my audio stream dies. anyone got a fix to offer? tia, jackc... This is part of an install script I use for mythtv, to remove pulse and revert to alsa alone. Thanks, this is useful in many other special cases where PA is not desirable, such as when using sound on a computer. ;-) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: max memory for 32bit fedora?
--- On Mon, 7/27/09, Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com wrote: From: Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com Subject: max memory for 32bit fedora? To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 8:26 AM Hi all; whats the max memory (Ram) that 32bit Fedora can actually use? I'm getting a laptop with a quad core chip and 8G of ram, can I take full advantage of this with 32bit Fedora or do I need to run x86_64? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines 32 bit can work with KERNEL.PAE, pae kernels. If the computer supports 64, why not go for it? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Option to select desktop
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:23:44 +0530 RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA rkbabu.kopp...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the reply. I have installed 'switchdesk' package and also created the /etc/sysconfig.desktop file, but it not working. What should I do next? Provide more information. What version of Fedora are you running? 10, 11, ?? Which desktop environments have you installed? Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ?? What is your default login? Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ?? Did you install clean or upgrade to your current version? Was it from a LiveCD, DVD, network, etc.? Anything else you think is relevant. i.e. any manually changed configuration files, outside packages, etc. The above will mainly establish whether you have any alternatives. I probably won't be able to help, but with the information someone else might be able to see what is wrong. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: max memory for 32bit fedora?
Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; whats the max memory (Ram) that 32bit Fedora can actually use? I'm getting a laptop with a quad core chip and 8G of ram, can I take full advantage of this with 32bit Fedora or do I need to run x86_64? To some extent, this depends on the BIOS. You may not get all of the memory running a 32 bit PAE kernel. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
I was able to see the video on F9 however no sound. On F11 I get nothing. On F9 it seems mplayer and totem are the only applications I have been able to use to hear sound. Firefox and rythmbox generate no sound. On F11 it's the same thing it seems mplayer is the only app that actually plays sound. Firefox 3.5 wont play sound. This all used to work just fine once. Paolo On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:32 AM, David Boles dgbo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video. Video located here: http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot Any suggestions? -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: eth0 alias issue
Bill Davidsen wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: T. Howell-Cintron wrote: When I disable NetworkManager and enable /etc/rc.d/init.d/network everything works as expected. Because this is a headless server I'm not sure what the repercussions of reverting from NM to the old 'network' script but as long as it works I'm not going to complain. There shouldn't be any. You may run into problems on some future release, but you should get warning about it in the release notes. I hope you don't imply that NM would be the only network management allowed. Bad enough that the default network control is crippled, please don't talk away our crutch. There is still a need for machine which function without a user logged in, and which are determinant in behavior on boot and recovery from suspend and hibernate. My crystal ball has a crack in it, so I can not say for sure what F20 will be like. So I included a warning that it MAY happen. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 11 upgrade, sound solved
Everyone's piling on with problem reports; thought I'd add my experience. I did an upgrade-in-place, running preupgrade, from an up-to-date Fedora 10. Most of the install went smoothly, but sound was not working once I restarted. I tried the old saw of yum erase pulseaudio that did NOT fix the problem. I relented an reinstalled pulseaudio. Poking around pulseaudio monitor, I could see that audio was being produced, just not making out the speakers. A morning of Googling and poking around finally yielded this page: http://fedorasolved.org/Members/fenris02/pulseaudio-fixes-and-workarounds My solution was in step #4: installing gst-mixer and finding the PCM setting at zero. Pushed it to 100% and sound works. Someone who understands how all the parts interact could do the Fedora Community a great service by writing up a troubleshooting guide. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: max memory for 32bit fedora?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.comwrote: --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com wrote: From: Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com Subject: max memory for 32bit fedora? To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 8:26 AM Hi all; whats the max memory (Ram) that 32bit Fedora can actually use? I'm getting a laptop with a quad core chip and 8G of ram, can I take full advantage of this with 32bit Fedora or do I need to run x86_64? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines 32 bit can work with KERNEL.PAE, pae kernels. If the computer supports 64, why not go for it? +1 Anyway, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video. Video located here: http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot Any suggestions? It plays fine in FF with Sound use wget to grab the *swf PackageKit should then prompt to install\find correct codecs. If you can get it playing you may be able to then capture it as a theora video? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is my load ave so high now?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 07/25/2009 09:58 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Wwll two things, one positive and one negative. The r column tells us there are not many processes waiting for run time which we normally associate with a low load average, However your number of interrupts per second (in) are rather high. Some kernel action seems to be really beating your machine over the head so to speak. How you find out what processes these are that are that are interrupting is not clear to me, however. Is your primary process doing a lot of I/O? No, astropulse should be CPU bound, not IO bound. It reads in some data, performs *lots* of calculations on it (hours worth) and then writes the results out to a file which it then sends back to SETI, and downloads another work unit. I'm very much intrested in how I can figure out where the interrupts are coming from so I ran 2 copies of cat /proc/interurupts 10 seconds apart, and here are the delta interrupts in that time CPU0 0: 0 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042 4: 0 IO-APIC-edge 6: 0 IO-APIC-edge floppy 7: 0 IO-APIC-edge parport0 8: 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc0 9: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi 12: 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042 14: 0 IO-APIC-edge pata_amd 15:209 IO-APIC-edge pata_amd 16: 2790 IO-APIC-fasteoi ivtv0 18: 9 IO-APIC-fasteoi aic7xxx, cx88[0], cx88[0], cx88[0], eth0 20: 60 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2, NVidia CK8 21:114 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1, ohci_hcd:usb3 22: 21 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv NMI: 0 Non-maskable interrupts LOC:246 Local timer interrupts RES: 0 Rescheduling interrupts CAL: 0 function call interrupts TLB: 0 TLB shootdowns TRM: 0 Thermal event interrupts SPU: 0 Spurious interrupts ERR: 0 MIS: 0 Could it be my ivtv0 (PVR-350) board? Its not supposed to be doing anything at the moment! There's nothing plugged into it, and its not configured under MythTV right now (cable went all digital) I'll try removing the driver module and see if that helps. At worst, I'll remove the board entirely. Looking at the original 'top' output, all the CPU was going to nice processing, presumable SETI. When you kill that you note the load average is still high, could we see the top few lines again to see the distribution? I note that hi/si are low, and load average indicates runable process (my first guess was the seti went threaded). So 'top' with the 'i' visual option (only show runnable tasks) should show what's running. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote: Try firefox add-ons: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6541 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions - 2009-07-27
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-07-29 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi 2009-08-05 01:00 UTC An intro to rsync -- Jon Stanley Last week I ran a Class on using preupgrade. You can find the log/summary of that Class at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/2009-07-21/fedora-classroom.2009-07-21-01.00.html We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video. Video located here: http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot Any suggestions? It plays fine in FF with Sound use wget to grab the *swf PackageKit should then prompt to install\find correct codecs. If you can get it playing you may be able to then capture it as a theora video? I guess that I was not clear here. :-) I can view and hear the feed just fine. I am trying to capture it. wget? How? There is, or does not appear to be, any visible URL associated with the video feed on display. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On 27/07/09 17:19, Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote: Try firefox add-ons: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6541 http://www.oneandother.co.uk/flowplayer/flowplayer.commercial-3.1.1.swf?0.605755713305492 If you use firefox, second button click over some text. View page info Media scroll for swf?... Click save as -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LMV2 boot from another Volume Group?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tony Nelsontonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: I have two hard drives I want to boot from, each with its own LVM2 Volume Group. I can boot from the one on the same drive as Grub, but not from the other one. Apparantly, only Logical Volumes from the boot drive's Volume Group are detected before / is mounted (something about activation, perhaps?). Googling only shows how to detect Volume Groups and activate Logical Volumes after / is mounted. I can't find any kernel LVM parameters that would affect this (and I'd need the LVM stuff built-in to the kernel, not as a module). Can Linux use a Volume Group that isn't on Grub's boot volume? Must I add a boot partition on the second disk and chainload to it? Are you saying that you have /boot in a VG and you can boot from it? Not sure what you mean by activate. The LVs are treated like any other partition with its filesystem that it's checked at boot time. There is no switch to turn LVs on and off, except for the entry in /etc/fstab that looks for a device to check and mount according to what you specify. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is my load ave so high now?
On 07/27/2009 12:04 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Could it be my ivtv0 (PVR-350) board? Its not supposed to be doing anything at the moment! There's nothing plugged into it, and its not configured under MythTV right now (cable went all digital) I'll try removing the driver module and see if that helps. At worst, I'll remove the board entirely. I ended up rmmod ivtvt and ivtvfb, and it didn't help. Yes, the number of ints propped noticeably, but the load average remains 10+ Looking at the original 'top' output, all the CPU was going to nice processing, presumable SETI. When you kill that you note the load average is still high, could we see the top few lines again to see the distribution? I note that hi/si are low, and load average indicates runable process (my first guess was the seti went threaded). So 'top' with the 'i' visual option (only show runnable tasks) should show what's running. (I learn something new everyday!) Sure, here it is for top -i: top - 12:58:12 up 6 days, 9:02, 4 users, load average: 11.30, 11.15, 11.10 Cpu(s): 0.7%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2074172k total, 1961024k used, 113148k free, 199680k buffers Swap: 3911816k total, 412k used, 3911404k free, 935716k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 14743 root 20 0 2560 1152 836 R 0.7 0.1 0:00.08 top 2506 root 20 0 15068 860 592 R 0.0 0.0 0:32.72 apcupsd 2547 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2548 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2549 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2550 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2551 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2552 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2553 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2554 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 17427 root 20 0 77040 72m 752 D 0.0 3.6 0:02.07 clamscan 24904 root 20 0 2492 964 704 D 0.0 0.0 0:01.87 find 28703 root 39 19 1900 652 540 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 updatedb That's the entire top output -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Option to select desktop
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:39 AM, stangr...@q.com wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:23:44 +0530 RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA rkbabu.kopp...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the reply. I have installed 'switchdesk' package and also created the /etc/sysconfig.desktop file, but it not working. What should I do next? Provide more information. What version of Fedora are you running? 10, 11, ?? Which desktop environments have you installed? Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ?? What is your default login? Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ?? Did you install clean or upgrade to your current version? Was it from a LiveCD, DVD, network, etc.? Anything else you think is relevant. i.e. any manually changed configuration files, outside packages, etc. The above will mainly establish whether you have any alternatives. I probably won't be able to help, but with the information someone else might be able to see what is wrong. The Gnome Desktop Manager (GDM) used to present a button (Session) that was visible on the login screen. With F11 the button is now hidden until a user name is clicked. Click a user name or other and a desktop configuration menu should appear at the bottom of the screen. Clicking on the Gnome portion of Sessions: Gnome should present a pop-up list of the installed desktops. By the way, the new configuration menu is poorly implemented. Language, Keyboard, and Sessions: are all scrunched up on the 800x600 default setting of my display. Some things don't get better with time. Please go back to the old GDM look and feel of F8. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora consumer satisfaction statistics
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.comwrote: snip The word blog has been mentioned many times before, has it made a difference? IMHO, people have the right to rant/bitch/moan/groan/.../etc They should have added that to mail name: instead of Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Have this: Community ranting/bitching/moaning/groaning about Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com We see many messages that are interesting, and there sometimes is no way that we can help/advice (WE DONT HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS, pulseaudio works, I can play CD's, WMV play fine, I have mplayer, gnome-mplayer, gecko-mediaplayer, .., etc) I don't update (except kernels), and believe me here Fedora has dropped the ball on this one(Regular Fedora and *NOT* Rawhide). I luckily have computers that let most things JUST WORK(TM). As far as BUGS GO, there are 321 bugs open? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=446451hide_resolved=1 Shows 321 bugs open bugs blocking the Fedora 11 target bug. What should be done with these bugs? KDE 4.X has come along nicely, (Thanks to many like Rex and Kevin(yes even though you hate nvdia crap :) ) things have improved and getting better and better. There are many configurations and customizations that a default installation does not work for everybody and as such people have problems with pulseaudio, rythmbox, ..., etc. Things were working, but an update or group of updates broke it? Is it the users fault for applying the updates, NO. Is the users fault that while applying updates, things break, NO. People write here for help, and sometimes get it and sometimes they need to write again because people might not know the answer or it is just a trivial solution. Anyhow, about the statistics, people have suggested a Web SURVEY, the idea has been knocked out several times. There is also SMOLT and (not everybody might send in their profile, why? because the card is not supported, module is not in kernel, network encrypted/not enabled, modem is a winmodem and needs drivers to connet), etc. There lies, damn lies and statistics. What are statistics good for? I wish I could help everyone get rid of their troubles and make Fedora the best distribution out there, but it is hard to do and that might not be the goal of Fedora after all? Many people would like for it to be, but it is not and maybe one day things might change, but maybe not? my $0.02 Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Dear all, I will first say that once Fedora 11 is installed and some problems fixed that it is one of the best releases that I have seen so far!! Nothing like my difficult experience with Fedora 9 I first started with Redhat 4.1(?) and permenantly switched to Linux with FC2. Usually releases are a little difficult in the beginning and then stablizing after 2 to 3 months have passed...then when reaching 6 months the process starts over again with the new latest release. I should imagine that the majority of the Fedora users are reasonabley happy and are using Fedora to get early releases of the latest software versions They do understand and accept that the ride will not be completely smooth. I do believe that the majority of the members of this list are silent (for various personal reasons) and only speak out when they have, to their thinking, a majour problem. On my early days this list (5+ years ago?) I joined and then attempted contributing. I was shot down by several list members with regards to email format issues that I then used and was given no help or explanation with their regards to the meaning of their complaints (though I did not recieve any criticism to the content of my messages). After that I found it simpler to not say anything (not understanding, then, the meaning of the complaints). Often, I find, that if I do have a problem then others also should see the same. If I am patient then most times I should soon see another to complain of a similar problem, followed by the usual replies of why did you not google x+y+z tp solve your problem or other criticisms of ingnorance and then someone will offer usefull experience and advice to point to the right direction which is genuinely useful to those of us experiencing the problem. When composing this reply to this topic I saw a more recent email about solving the sound issues in Fedora 11 using gst-mixer to reset PCM from 0 This is a case in point. For me sound has not worked right in Fedora 10 and then obviously the problem was my PCM channel but no obvious way to see how to fix (but I could live with this) as all else worked well. I did use the pre-upgrade process to change to Fedora 11 (My DVD burner
Re: acer one
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:18:57 +0200, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 10:59 +0200, roland wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:43:52 +0200, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: roland wrote: I tried to do this, but he complains saying the stick is not bootable so I should use /sbin/parted Parted only allows to make a ext2 filesystem. How should I do this. Why does it work out of the box with you guys? First of all, parted will make many other file systems besides ext2. From the man page: mkfs partition fs-type Make a filesystem fs-type on partition. fs-type can be one of fat16, fat32, ext2, linux-swap, or reiserfs. But I believe what they are asking you to do is make sure the boot flag is set on the partition. what should be the capacity of the stick? I've been able to get live-iso to work with a 4 Gb USB key disk (even with the DVD) You can get there with 4GB, but IIRC there was little/no room for a swap partition. Also no need on any machine I used, but not all machines have large memory. I already bought two sticks and followed the instructions in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB#Ability_to_boot_from_USB_media But I always got the notice to make the stick bootable (the last one was 8GB) Does this mean - the sticks are no good? - I'm doing something wrong? - what kind of stick is ok? -- Roland Brouwers C.A.T. bvba zevenbergenlaan 16 B-2660 Antwerpen Tel: +32 3 830 3305 Mob: +32 475 443105 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: no sound with TVTime
Martin Legault wrote: Hello Mikkel, sorry to join in late in the thread, I just installed F11 this morning and TVTime as no sound, when I press the arrow key, the volume stay at 0. I tried a few thing before looking on the web and none work. my card is an older hauppage PVR-50 (if my memory is correct) NTSC only. I tried modprobe snd-pcm-oss with no luck here is the output of dmesg: Bt87x :05:00.1: PCI INT A - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 20 ALSA sound/pci/bt87x.c:931: bt87x0: Using board 1, analog, digital (rate 32000 Hz) ---[SNIP] I have the same card - with the cable that runs between it and the sound card. It sounds like you do not have the mixer specified correctly. I have not updated that machine to F11 yet, so I can offer limited help. (Things to try and report back the results.) One way is to load the OSS emulation layer, and see if that fixes the problem. (modprobe snd-pcm-oss) Most of the other things to try have already been covered in the thread. what would be the best way to continue in the mail chain? The best way would be to reply to a message in the original thread. One of these days, I am going to play with getting the digital audio from the card working... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Option to select desktop
On Monday 27 July 2009, Kam Leo wrote: The Gnome Desktop Manager (GDM) used to present a button (Session) that was visible on the login screen. With F11 the button is now hidden until a user name is clicked. Click a user name or other and a desktop configuration menu should appear at the bottom of the screen. Clicking on the Gnome portion of Sessions: Gnome should present a pop-up list of the installed desktops. By the way, the new configuration menu is poorly implemented. Language, Keyboard, and Sessions: are all scrunched up on the 800x600 default setting of my display. Some things don't get better with time. Please go back to the old GDM look and feel of F8. I concur. I liked the old way much better... Also, I have to say I've got a pretty peppy system (Athlon 64, 2200 Mhz, 1 Gb shared ram) but it's dog slow sometimes I'm wondering what the heck is going on, as I'm not swapping to disk a whole lot, and I've still got available RAM: [j...@slave1 ~]$ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:884524 716996 167528 0 19232 191736 -/+ buffers/cache: 506028 378496 Swap: 6201048 2900325911016 So, why is my system so dog-slow? Is it the fact that I've got an integrated video card instead of a high-end gaming video card or something? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [fedora-list] What the hell are these dirs?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: Anyway, it's gone now. Unfortunately, even without out the -v, I've barely made a dent. This is going to take a long, long, long time. and you are still using 2 programs to do deletions, so it is going to take a long time. if you do not have them removed by now, i suggest you follow what i wrote in other post of 'Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:15:45 +'. you can prove this by opening a virtual terminal and run 'df' at a 1 min intervals with your current 'find/rm'. after about 5 displays 'df', ctrl+c to end your 'find/rm', then do a drag and drop of; rm -fR [0-9]*;rm -fR [a-l]*;rm -fR [m-z]*;rm -fR [A-L]*;rm -fR [M-Z]* into a virtual terminal and run it. from a 2nd vt, run 'df' as above and you should see a greater size change. only problem you will have, as i mentioned before, you may have to change to span within the '[ ]'. you can set up a 'for i' loop and pass 0-9, A-Z, a-z as $i, 'rm -fR [$i]*'. and if you like, you can add 'df /dev/sdx', 'x' being drive/partition that files are on and see that you are deleting. one note of reasoning, if there are several hundred/thousand of files that start with '$i' you may need a double loop '[$i$j]' to get files with out have 'too many files' error. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LMV2 boot from another Volume Group?
On 09-07-27 13:08:33, Aldo Foot wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tony Nelsontonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: I have two hard drives I want to boot from, each with its own LVM2 Volume Group. I can boot from the one on the same drive as Grub, but not from the other one. Apparantly, only Logical Volumes from the boot drive's Volume Group are detected before / is mounted (something about activation, perhaps?). Googling only shows how to detect Volume Groups and activate Logical Volumes after / is mounted. I can't find any kernel LVM parameters that would affect this (and I'd need the LVM stuff built-in to the kernel, not as a module). Can Linux use a Volume Group that isn't on Grub's boot volume? Must I add a boot partition on the second disk and chainload to it? Are you saying that you have /boot in a VG and you can boot from it? No. Not sure what you mean by activate. The LVs are treated like any other partition with its filesystem that it's checked at boot time. There is no switch o turn LVs on and off, except for the entry in / etc/fstab that looks for a device to check and mount according to what you specify. This is wrong. In order to use an LVM Logicial Volume, first a `vgscan` may be needed to make the Volume Groups known, and then the desired Logical Volumes must be Activated with `vgchange -ay`. Only Available Logical Volumes can be mounted. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LMV2 boot from another Volume Group?
On 09-07-27 10:08:50, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: I have two hard drives I want to boot from, each with its own LVM2 Volume Group. I can boot from the one on the same drive as Grub, but not from the other one. Apparantly, only Logical Volumes from the boot drive's Volume Group are detected before / is mounted (something aboutactivation, perhaps?). Googling only shows how to detect Volume Groups and activate Logical Volumes after / is mounted. I can't find any kernel LVM parameters that would affect this (and I'd need the LVM stuff built-in to the kernel, not as a module). Can Linux use a Volume Group that isn't on Grub's boot volume? Must I add a boot partition on the second disk and chainload to it? What do you mean by boot from each drive? Are you talking about selecting what drive to boot from in the BIOS, or selecting what drive is / by setting the root=something in /boot/grub.conf? Either way (with suitable changes to grub.conf). Second question - do the two VGs have different names? Yes. Even when the boot drive is set in the BIOS to be the drive containing the Volume Group to use, VolGroup01, all Volume Groups are recognized, and then VolGroup00's volumes are activated. I see that nash has started. In the initrd, the nash script init contains the offending settings. I suppose I need to use mkinitrd to fix this, so that VolGroup01 (and also VolGroup00 which contains the swap partition) is activated. (I'm baffled as to why `grep -rI nash .` in the unpacked initrd would cause endless spew of RETURN characters into any active window, as if from the keyboard, making the computer unusuable and also hard to reboot. -rIl spews something else, maybe spaces, not quite as hard to reboot.) -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fc11, mplayer, pulseaudio, data underrun whiel playing from network.
my pulseaudio test fine when playing local .wav files, but using it in a stream gets me data underruns as below. i launch the player with, ... mplayer -ao alsa -cache 512 http://74.201.24.2:80/live_mapleton_vitalstream_com_kpigfm?MSWMExt=.asf and it plays for a few minutes, then the stream chokes and the device is closed. messages log included for detail; anyone able to comment on the ALSA bug comment from the driver below? thx, jackc... Jul 27 10:42:19 ws pulseaudio[2334]: client.c: Freed 10 EsounD client (UNIX socket client) Jul 27 10:42:19 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:19 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 15.99 ms Jul 27 10:42:22 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:22 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 36.00 ms Jul 27 10:42:28 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:28 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 25.99 ms Jul 27 10:42:37 ws ntpd[1754]: synchronized to 207.171.30.106, stratum 1 Jul 27 10:42:37 ws ntpd[1754]: kernel time sync status change 2001 Jul 27 10:42:50 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:50 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 46.00 ms Jul 27 10:42:51 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:51 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 35.99 ms Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 56.00 ms Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_avail() returned a value that is exceptionally large: 4294958728 bytes (24347838 ms). Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump(): Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel 82801DB-ICH4' device 0 subdevice 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: rate : 44100 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 16384 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_size : 16384 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_time : 371519 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_step : 1 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: avail_min: 16384 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_event : 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 1073741824 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: boundary : 1073741824 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: appl_ptr : 6342765 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: hw_ptr : 6324239 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_delay() returned a value that is exceptionally large: 369408 bytes (2094 ms). Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump(): Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel 82801DB-ICH4' device 0 subdevice 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: rate : 44100 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c:
Re: fc11, mplayer, pulseaudio, data underrun whiel playing from network.
On 07/27/2009 10:48 AM, jack craig wrote: my pulseaudio test fine when playing local .wav files, but using it in a stream gets me data underruns as below. i launch the player with, ... mplayer -ao alsa -cache 512 http://74.201.24.2:80/live_mapleton_vitalstream_com_kpigfm?MSWMExt=.asf and it plays for a few minutes, then the stream chokes and the device is closed. messages log included for detail; anyone able to comment on the ALSA bug comment from the driver below? thx, jackc... Jul 27 10:42:19 ws pulseaudio[2334]: client.c: Freed 10 EsounD client (UNIX socket client) Jul 27 10:42:19 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:19 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 15.99 ms Jul 27 10:42:22 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:22 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 36.00 ms Jul 27 10:42:28 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:28 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 25.99 ms Jul 27 10:42:37 ws ntpd[1754]: synchronized to 207.171.30.106, stratum 1 Jul 27 10:42:37 ws ntpd[1754]: kernel time sync status change 2001 Jul 27 10:42:50 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:50 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 46.00 ms Jul 27 10:42:51 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:42:51 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 35.99 ms Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Underrun! Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 56.00 ms Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_avail() returned a value that is exceptionally large: 4294958728 bytes (24347838 ms). Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump(): Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel 82801DB-ICH4' device 0 subdevice 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: rate : 44100 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 16384 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_size : 16384 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_time : 371519 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_step : 1 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: avail_min: 16384 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: period_event : 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 1073741824 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: boundary : 1073741824 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: appl_ptr : 6342765 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: hw_ptr : 6324239 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_delay() returned a value that is exceptionally large: 369408 bytes (2094 ms). Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump(): Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel 82801DB-ICH4' device 0 subdevice 0 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: rate : 44100 Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) Jul 27 10:43:29 ws pulseaudio[2334]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Jul 27
Re: Open SSH client error
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Richard R. Cahiligr.cahi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I just installed fedora 11 64bit on our server, the problem is I cannot connect to other Linux server using ssh the error says ssh: connect to host 83.229.64.51 port 22: No route to host. Its strange because I already disabled the firewall and the selinux on this server and I can connect to that other Linux server using different computer and the firewall and selinux on that server is also disabled. Please help me. Regards, Richard R. Cahilig There may be nothing wrong at all. It may be that the iptables in the server has been modified to only accept ssh connections from specific machines. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 12:48 -0400, David Boles wrote: I am trying to capture it. wget? How? There is, or does not appear to be, any visible URL associated with the video feed on display. If you use the FlashBlock plugin for Firefox, any blocked Flash content has a right-click option to copy the location (web address) for it. For un-obscured media in a page, Firefox's page info pop-up lists the different content. And there are download helper plugins that help you to save various things from a page. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LMV2 boot from another Volume Group?
Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-07-27 10:08:50, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: What do you mean by boot from each drive? Are you talking about selecting what drive to boot from in the BIOS, or selecting what drive is / by setting the root=something in /boot/grub.conf? Either way (with suitable changes to grub.conf). It gets a bit complicated because Grub uses the BIOS to access the drives. To use the BIOS to select the drive to boot from, you need a grub first stage on the MBR of both drives. But the first stage on the second drive has to point to /boot on the first drive. The things is, when you change the boot drive in the BIOS, the boot drive becomes (hd0) and the original drive becomes (hd1). This can be made to work, but you need to mount /boot from the first installation in the second installation. It works much better to have a /boot partition on the second drive. Please keep in mind that the /boot partition can not be in an LVM. Second question - do the two VGs have different names? Yes. Even when the boot drive is set in the BIOS to be the drive containing the Volume Group to use, VolGroup01, all Volume Groups are recognized, and then VolGroup00's volumes are activated. I see that nash has started. In the initrd, the nash script init contains the offending settings. I suppose I need to use mkinitrd to fix this, so that VolGroup01 (and also VolGroup00 which contains the swap partition) is activated. It would help to see /boot/grub/grub.conf - I suspect that is part of the problem. If you run the Gnome desktop, you can run System -- Administration -- Logical Volume Management for an easy way to manage LVMs. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [fedora-classroom] Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions - 2009-07-27
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:21:54 -0600 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-07-29 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi 2009-08-05 01:00 UTC An intro to rsync -- Jon Stanley Sorry to followup on my own posting here, but we have another last minute class this week I would like to let everyone know about: 2009-07-29 02:00 UTC Introduction to Koji (build system) and Bodhi (updates system) in Fedora infrastructure (End user perspective) -- Rahul Sundaram I hope a bunch of folks can attend. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LMV2 boot from another Volume Group?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Tony Nelsontonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: On 09-07-27 13:08:33, Aldo Foot wrote: Not sure what you mean by activate. The LVs are treated like any other partition with its filesystem that it's checked at boot time. There is no switch o turn LVs on and off, except for the entry in / etc/fstab that looks for a device to check and mount according to what you specify. This is wrong. In order to use an LVM Logicial Volume, first a `vgscan` may be needed to make the Volume Groups known, and then the desired Logical Volumes must be Activated with `vgchange -ay`. Only Available Logical Volumes can be mounted. I stand corrected. Vgchange will activate the LVs making them visible or not to the kernel. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 17:19, Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote: Try firefox add-ons: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6541 http://www.oneandother.co.uk/flowplayer/flowplayer.commercial-3.1.1.swf?0.605755713305492 If you use firefox, second button click over some text. View page info Media scroll for swf?... Click save as Did you actually try this Frank? :-) I seriously doubt that a one hour capture of a streaming video would only be 106k in length. But thanks for the suggestion(s) -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is my load ave so high now?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 07/27/2009 12:04 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Could it be my ivtv0 (PVR-350) board? Its not supposed to be doing anything at the moment! There's nothing plugged into it, and its not configured under MythTV right now (cable went all digital) I'll try removing the driver module and see if that helps. At worst, I'll remove the board entirely. I ended up rmmod ivtvt and ivtvfb, and it didn't help. Yes, the number of ints propped noticeably, but the load average remains 10+ Looking at the original 'top' output, all the CPU was going to nice processing, presumable SETI. When you kill that you note the load average is still high, could we see the top few lines again to see the distribution? I note that hi/si are low, and load average indicates runable process (my first guess was the seti went threaded). So 'top' with the 'i' visual option (only show runnable tasks) should show what's running. (I learn something new everyday!) Sure, here it is for top -i: top - 12:58:12 up 6 days, 9:02, 4 users, load average: 11.30, 11.15, 11.10 Cpu(s): 0.7%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2074172k total, 1961024k used, 113148k free, 199680k buffers Swap: 3911816k total, 412k used, 3911404k free, 935716k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 14743 root 20 0 2560 1152 836 R 0.7 0.1 0:00.08 top 2506 root 20 0 15068 860 592 R 0.0 0.0 0:32.72 apcupsd 2547 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2548 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2549 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2550 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2551 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2552 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2553 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 2554 root 15 -5 000 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsd 17427 root 20 0 77040 72m 752 D 0.0 3.6 0:02.07 clamscan 24904 root 20 0 2492 964 704 D 0.0 0.0 0:01.87 find 28703 root 39 19 1900 652 540 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 updatedb That's the entire top output You see a bunch of NFS-related things in a D state and you wonder why it's slow? If you have processes in an I/O wait (a.k.a. D) state, that'll bog stuff down badly...especially if the NFS mounts are mounted hard. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Squawk! Pieces of Seven! Pieces of Seven! Parity Error! - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On 27/07/09 19:25, David Boles wrote: Did you actually try this Frank? :-) I seriously doubt that a one hour capture of a streaming video would only be 106k in length. But thanks for the suggestion(s) No, rarely watch video (on PC) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 12:48 -0400, David Boles wrote: I am trying to capture it. wget? How? There is, or does not appear to be, any visible URL associated with the video feed on display. If you use the FlashBlock plugin for Firefox, any blocked Flash content has a right-click option to copy the location (web address) for it. For un-obscured media in a page, Firefox's page info pop-up lists the different content. And there are download helper plugins that help you to save various things from a page. Flash block is/was disabled. Actually Adblock Plus was alos a problem. I have tried all of the Firefox extensions. As I said before - I can view and hear the video feed but I can find no way to download it. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On 27/07/09 19:33, David Boles wrote: snip Maybe? http://www.eglug.org/node/2079 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to view it with. Nothing that I have tried will capture the video. Video located here: http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/Margot Wow! It plays in Konqueror! Amazing! Any suggestions? http://www.captureyoutube.net/ looks as though it would help. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On Monday 27 July 2009 16:42:26 Paolo Galtieri wrote: I was able to see the video on F9 however no sound. On F11 I get nothing. On F9 it seems mplayer and totem are the only applications I have been able to use to hear sound. Firefox and rythmbox generate no sound. On F11 it's the same thing it seems mplayer is the only app that actually plays sound. Firefox 3.5 wont play sound. This all used to work just fine onc In Konqueror (F11) I could see the video, but if sound was there it was minimal - I'm not certain. In Firefox (3.5.1) I could both see and hear it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 - re-mount a usb drive
On 07/25/2009 02:26 AM, FlatBall wrote: I am running Fedora 11 on an old IBM Desktop box. Running as a server (NO GUI). When I mount a usb drive with the command: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb The drive mounts up just fine. (It took me forever to figure out that sda1 didn't work on this box.) The problem comes if I umount it and take the drive out of the usb port. After plugging it back in, the mount command no longer works. It barks about specifying the file system, and when I specify the file system, it says that there is no device there. If I restart the server (a bit extreme to mount a usb drive) it works fine. Thanks in advance for any help! i am using the SD media for a shuttle to my moblin. i learned that doing a filesystem label made this work for me. man e2label, hth, YMMV, jackc... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) _ This email has been ClamScanned ! www.LinuxLightHouse.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Soundcard works but no sound... how do I troubleshoot ?
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 16:31 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: I am running F11 with KDE, all updates installed. $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jul 7 20:45:17 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I have sound through my headphone jack when I run system-config-sound. It shows the PCM device to be STAC92xx Analog. I also have sound when running Amarok. Its not clear to me which device it is using. But I don't have sound with other applications (eg Youtube or mplayer or xine) or with KDE in general. At this point I DO have pulseaudio installed. How do I troubleshoot or fix the sound on my laptop ? Thanks I had to remove alsa-pulseaudio rpm. -- === The idea is to die young as late as possible. -- Ashley Montague === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: My F!! is slowly coming apart.
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 13:30 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:16:25 -0500, Aaron wrote: Things in F11 are commiing apart. We have discussed the audio CD problem. Now watching you-tube videos are becoming impossible. The video starts but at some point the sound disappears (and sometimes the video stops as well). Once the audio stops all videos you try to watch have no audio. Has anyone noticed this phenomena? I suspect thhis is a firerfox-3.5.1-1 problem which was installed on July 9. I'd rather think the problem might be in the kernel update that touched parts of ALSA. On the other hand, youtube is flash, a separate package from Adobe. Can you go back to the previous firefox (+xulrunner for deps) and double-check? ( https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-7216 ) Do you still have the previous kernel in GRUB to select it during boot? Going back to previous kernel did no good. Youtube was fixed by removing als-pulseaudio. During early july upgrades for alsa-pulseaudio and 2 gstreamer rpms were installed, so I wonder... -- === My mother loved children -- she would have given anything if I had been one. -- Groucho Marx === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't play audio CDs in F11.
On Monday 27 July 2009 16:09:25 Erik P. Olsen wrote: I don't use Rythmbox, so I didn't try it. I am not even sure how to play a CD using it. I tried some of those applications. grip played the CD but no sound was heard. Audio Extractor produced sound for a while then the sound disappeared although he playing continued. Rhythembox would not play the CD. So all is still not well. Same here, gxine would play the CD but no sound (due to the pulseaudio - alsa problem) I don't use gnome, so this may be of no use at all, but assuming that what I do in kde must have an equivalence in gnome, here are my comments. Some applications use xine-backend and some use gstreamer-backend. See if you can find the configuration tool to switch them, then experiment. Similarly, when I look at the multimedia page in systemsettings I see a list of possible outputs for each type of input. Experiment with those, if you can find them. I found it well worth moving some around, making sure that either PA or an output seen to work (test button) is at the top of the list. Vague, but HTH Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't play audio CDs in F11.
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 16:14 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: The question what program to Bugzilla. I had a feeling it was udev problem but it might indeed be a HAL problem. The confusion is that DVDs work and mountable data CDs work but audio CDs don't. Wat doesn't work is the part that HAL is supposed to do. The CD is sensed in the drive. The system tries to read it, and gets the usual error when trying to read an audio CD. Do icon and no program launch after the audio CD is detected. But you can still access the CD if you launch a program that reads/plays CDs. I would be more inclined to suspect udev if nothing happened when you inserted a data CD or a DVD. But it would not be my first choice unless the drive was not detected at all. Mikkel You are porbably right but lshw |grep audio returns: description: Multimedia audio controller capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r which indicates that audio CD-s are expected and my experience with running auudio reading programs differes from yours. Most audio programs won't read the audio CD and those that will loose sound after a few minutes. -- === Our vision is to speed up time, eventually eliminating it. -- Alex Schure === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TV tuner, sound etc. -- what does this mean?
Hi; I have been going through my messages log and saw this. ... kernel: tuner 2-0042: chip found @ 0x84 (cx23885[0]) kernel: tda829x 2-0042: could not clearly identify tuner address, defaulting to 60 kernel: tda18271 2-0060: creating new instance kernel: TDA18271HD/C1 detected @ 2-0060 kernel: tda829x 2-0042: type set to tda8295+18271 ... Is this normal, or does could not clearly identify tuner address indicate a problem? -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 22.3.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote: Flash block is/was disabled. You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click option on the blocked content. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't play audio CDs in F11.
On 27/07/09 17:20, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: [snip] One thing to check on the applications that play the CD, but do not produce sound is how they are set up to get sound from the CD. I have found that a lot of programs still default to using the analog line from the CD to the sound card, yet most new machines do not have this cable, so you need to reconfigure them to use digital sound over the interface. You then end up suing the PCM mixer control instead of the CD control to control volume... My sound card is an olde AW320 from Aopen. It does use the little cable from the CD and the sound is OK on F10. Should I really reconfigure the sound card and is it at all possible? -- Erik. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote: Flash block is/was disabled. You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click option on the blocked content. Useful for what? Nothing in the blockable items list is the link to the video. Flash Block was not stopping the original viewing. The viewing works with Flash Block enabled and with an 'exception' for the site. Adblock was what stopped the viewing originally. The only URL there is an advertisement that leads to the video. The URL for the video is hidden in some way. It 'looks' like Java script. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming video capture problem
Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 19:33, David Boles wrote: snip Maybe? http://www.eglug.org/node/2079 Looks interesting. I'll try this when I get home tonight. Thanks. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
