date:20090823

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506671

No comment since two months. Not even a confirmation that the last comment
is true. Fedora 11 still looks bad due to this.

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Re: fedora-pkgdb: make it discoverable on browser home page?

2009-08-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi

On 08/23/2009 10:06 AM, Michel Salim wrote:
 Hi Adam,
 
 Thanks for the wonderful fedora-pkgdb search engine! I was wondering --
 since it's a standard opensearch plugin, whether it would be a good idea
 or not to make it auto-discoverable on *.fedoraproject.org, especially
 start.fedoraproject.org which is our default browser home page?
 
 That way, users gain another way to search for packages -- one they are
 already familiar with -- and it's an easier way to look for existing
 bugs and file new ones too, IMHO.
 
In the past, the pkgdb was seen as a developer-only tool so it wasn't
too interesting too the general public.  However, as part of GSoC,
maploin has done some good work to change that.  The interface is a
little rough still but there are now end-user features (package build
information like repoview, user-supplied tagging and commenting) in the
development repo (not deployed yet).

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Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

On 08/23/2009 11:18 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

 Doubtful. How much will that save? - A typical problem with KDE apps is
 that not only they pull in some KDE libraries, the KDE packages come with
 lots of additional KDE-specific dependencies.
 
 Installing:
  ktorrent i586   3.2.3-1.fc11  
 updates   3.3 M
 Installing for dependencies:
  akonadi  i586   1.2.0-1.fc11  
 updates-testing   682 k
  kdebase-workspacei586   4.3.0-8.fc11  
 updates-testing14 M
  kdebase-workspace-libs   i586   4.3.0-8.fc11  
 updates-testing   906 k
  kdepimlibs-akonadi   i586   4.3.0-2.fc11  
 updates-testing   505 k
  kdm  i586   4.3.0-8.fc11  
 updates-testing   1.9 M
  qt-mysql i586   1:4.5.2-2.fc11
 updates53 k

A torrent client requires a display manager and Qt MySQL? Hmm. Something
wrong with dependencies, here.  I am sure, we can do better.

Rahul

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Re: fedora-pkgdb: make it discoverable on browser home page?

On 08/23/2009 11:17 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 On 08/23/2009 10:06 AM, Michel Salim wrote:
 Hi Adam,

 Thanks for the wonderful fedora-pkgdb search engine! I was wondering --
 since it's a standard opensearch plugin, whether it would be a good idea
 or not to make it auto-discoverable on *.fedoraproject.org, especially
 start.fedoraproject.org which is our default browser home page?

 That way, users gain another way to search for packages -- one they are
 already familiar with -- and it's an easier way to look for existing
 bugs and file new ones too, IMHO.

 In the past, the pkgdb was seen as a developer-only tool so it wasn't
 too interesting too the general public.  However, as part of GSoC,
 maploin has done some good work to change that.  The interface is a
 little rough still but there are now end-user features (package build
 information like repoview, user-supplied tagging and commenting) in the
 development repo (not deployed yet).

Aren't we pitching Fedora Community interface as the end user facing
thing, going forward? It seems some of these features will overlap or
duplicate it.

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Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-23 Thread Rex Dieter

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 On 08/23/2009 11:18 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 
 Doubtful. How much will that save? - A typical problem with KDE apps is
 that not only they pull in some KDE libraries, the KDE packages come with
 lots of additional KDE-specific dependencies.
 
 Installing:
  ktorrent i586   3.2.3-1.fc11
   updates   3.3 M
 Installing for dependencies:
  akonadi  i586   1.2.0-1.fc11
   updates-testing   682 k
  kdebase-workspacei586   4.3.0-8.fc11
   updates-testing14 M
  kdebase-workspace-libs   i586   4.3.0-8.fc11
   updates-testing   906 k
  kdepimlibs-akonadi   i586   4.3.0-2.fc11
   updates-testing   505 k
  kdm  i586   4.3.0-8.fc11
   updates-testing   1.9 M
  qt-mysql i586   1:4.5.2-2.fc11  
   updates53 k
 
 A torrent client requires a display manager and Qt MySQL? Hmm. Something
 wrong with dependencies, here.  I am sure, we can do better.

It grew a dependency on some newer libraries in kdebase-workspace recently, 
probably some prudent sub-packages are in order.

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gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:31:28 +0400, Pavel wrote:

 23.08.2009 02:15, Kevin Kofler wrote:
  Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote:
  My point was different: I want use gwenview but don't always use
  kdegrapics, wich have big size. So, I often use it in XFCE.
 
  But packaging an obsolete standalone package which is no longer released
  standalone by upstream and which conflicts with another package containing
  the current version surely cannot be the solution, and the resulting file
  conflicts are a violation of Fedora's guidelines.
 
 Ok. I'll try ask maintainer of kdegraphics to split gwenview into 
 separate package.

Doubtful. How much will that save? - A typical problem with KDE apps is
that not only they pull in some KDE libraries, the KDE packages come with
lots of additional KDE-specific dependencies.

Installing:
 ktorrent i586   3.2.3-1.fc11  
updates   3.3 M
Installing for dependencies:
 akonadi  i586   1.2.0-1.fc11  
updates-testing   682 k
 kdebase-workspacei586   4.3.0-8.fc11  
updates-testing14 M
 kdebase-workspace-libs   i586   4.3.0-8.fc11  
updates-testing   906 k
 kdepimlibs-akonadi   i586   4.3.0-2.fc11  
updates-testing   505 k
 kdm  i586   4.3.0-8.fc11  
updates-testing   1.9 M
 qt-mysql i586   1:4.5.2-2.fc11
updates53 k

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Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

On 08/23/2009 11:31 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:


 A torrent client requires a display manager and Qt MySQL? Hmm. Something
 wrong with dependencies, here.  I am sure, we can do better.
 
 It grew a dependency on some newer libraries in kdebase-workspace recently, 
 probably some prudent sub-packages are in order.

A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to
another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and
install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which
are rather silly. I have seen kde-settings, background packages and
kdebase pull in odd dependencies on occasions.  k3b, ktorrent, scribus
et all are often used outside KDE.

Rahul

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Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-23 Thread Debayan Banerjee

2009/8/24 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se

 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to
  another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and
  install one of the KDE apps.

 That's not all that quick. There ought to be a tool for this. Given a
 package
 name it should print the dependency tree for that package. It could have an
 option to suppress packages in the base set. Couldn't Yum be taught to
 answer
 that kind of queries?


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http://www.edos-project.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/debcheck_home




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Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10

2009-08-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:45:21 -0400
Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 08/10/2009 12:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
  spot:BADSOURCE:chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip:oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts
 
 Not sure why this failed. I confirmed that the .zip file available
 from the site is identical to the one in the lookaside.

Cute. My download worked, but I got in the zip file: 

[chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip]
  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive.
zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of 
chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip or
  chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip.zip, and cannot find 
chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Booklett
er_1.zip.ZIP, period.

So, some weirdness with the upstream ftp/http server I guess. 

  spot:BADSOURCE:daa2iso.zip:daa2iso
 
 Fixed (I have begged the upstream here to put versioning in their
 name, but they will not)
 
  spot:BADSOURCE:perltex.zip:tetex-perltex
 
 This package is probably going away with texlive, so I'm just letting
 it sit.
 
  spot:BADSOURCE:ql2400_fw.bin:ql2400-firmware
  spot:BADSOURCE:ql2500_fw.bin:ql2500-firmware
 
 Updated to the latest versions of the firmware.
 
  spot:BADURL:Acetoneiso_2.0.3.2.tar.gz:AcetoneISO2
 
 This checks out for me.
 
  spot:BADURL:alsamixergui-0.9.0rc1-2.tar.gz:alsamixergui
 
 Upstream is gone. I've updated the package to reflect that.
 
  spot:BADURL:amanith_03.tar.gz:amanith
 
 Upstream no longer maintains this code, updated package to reflect
 that.
 
  spot:BADURL:Class-DBI-Loader-Relationship-1.3.tar.gz:perl-Class-DBI-Loader-Relationship
 
 Fixed.
 
  spot:BADURL:ebtables-v2.0.9-1.tar.gz:ebtables
 
 Fixed.
 
  spot:BADURL:giver-0.1.8.tar.gz:giver
 
 Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure.
 
  spot:BADURL:google-perftools-1.3.tar.gz:google-perftools
 
 Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure.

Yeah, these are both googlecode, which was giving me 404's when I ran
the script. ;( 

  spot:BADURL:gxemul-0.4.7.2.tar.gz:gxemul
 
 Fixed.
 
  spot:BADURL:mcrypt-2.6.8.tar.gz:mcrypt
 
 Took me several tries to get this to work, but it is correct.
 Sourceforge seems to be especially flaky these days.

yes it does. ;( 

  spot:BADURL:musiqwik_musisync_y6.zip:allgeyer-fonts
 
 Upstream is gone, removed URL from Source.
 
  spot:BADURL:pdsh-2.18.tar.bz2:pdsh
 
 Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure.

SF gave me a 404: 
--15:54:01--  http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pdsh/pdsh-2.18.tar.bz2
Resolving dl.sourceforge.net... 128.101.240.209, 150.65.7.130, 193.1.219.87, ...
Connecting to dl.sourceforge.net|128.101.240.209|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
15:55:14 ERROR 404: Not Found.

  spot:BADURL:Pod-POM-0.18.tar.gz:perl-Pod-POM
 
 Fixed.
 
  spot:BADURL:pydot-1.0.2.tar.gz:pydot
 
 Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure.

Googlecode. 

  spot:BADURL:pyke-1.0.2.tar.gz:pyke
 
 Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure.

Sourceforge. ;( 

  spot:BADURL:python-twitter-0.6.tar.gz:python-twitter
 
 Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure.

googlecode. 

  spot:BADURL:RODBC_1.2-5.tar.gz:R-RODBC
 
 Fixed.
 
  spot:BADURL:rx-1.5.tar.bz2:librx
 
 FSF no longer maintains or offers this code, dropped URL from Source0.
 
  spot:BADURL:Test-Differences-0.4801.tar.gz:perl-Test-Differences
 
 Fixed.
 
  spot:BADURL:winpdb-1.4.6.tar.gz:winpdb
 
 Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure.

googlecode. 

  spot:BADURL:XML-RSS-1.44.tar.gz:perl-XML-RSS
 
 Fixed.
 
  spot:BADURL:zlib.tar.gz:tcl-zlib
 
 Been waiting more than a year now for upstream to revive his website
 (he swears he's going to do it everytime I email him, but I have
 given up). Removed URL from Source.

:( 

 ***
 
 Thanks for running this.

No problem

 ~spot

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Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10

2009-08-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:47:54 +0200
Christof Damian chris...@damian.net wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 18:15, Kevin Fenzike...@scrye.com wrote:
 
  cdamian:BADURL:wikicalendar-1.15.tar.gz:mediawiki-wikicalendar
 
 
 Just checked this one and it works. Probably was a temporary problem
 with googlecode .

yep. ;( 

googlecode and SF seem to both sometimes sporadically just not work. 

 
 Christof
 

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Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-23 Thread Björn Persson

Debayan Banerjee wrote:
 2009/8/24 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se
  That's not all that quick. There ought to be a tool for this. Given a
  package
  name it should print the dependency tree for that package. It could have
  an option to suppress packages in the base set. Couldn't Yum be taught to
  answer
  that kind of queries?

 edos-rpmcheck

 http://www.edos-project.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/debcheck_home

Judging from the description on that page, that's not what I want. It says the 
program checks whether a package is installable. Yum can do that. I want to 
check whether a package drags in other packages unnecessarily.

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Re: fedora-pkgdb: make it discoverable on browser home page?

2009-08-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi

On 08/23/2009 10:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Aren't we pitching Fedora Community interface as the end user facing
 thing, going forward? It seems some of these features will overlap or
 duplicate it.
 
It's possible.  The packagedb is going to be the backend for the Fedora
Community Front end so it had to get written this summer so that work on
the front-end can proceed.

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Re: FESCo meeting summary for 20090729

2009-08-23 Thread Jon Stanley

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote:

 Again the log seems to be incomplete. If I type .fesco 218 in
 #feedora-meeting, I get this line from zodbot:

FYI, I just updated the meetbot plugin on noc1 to the latest version
in koji that Kevin built a bit ago, which contains a fix for this
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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-23 Thread Paul Howarth

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:34:24 +0200
Aurelien Bompard gau...@free.fr wrote:

 I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take
 over:
 
...
 - perl-Jcode -- Perl extension interface for converting Japanese
text

I've taken that one.

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Re: rpms/nss-softokn/devel nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2, NONE, 1.1

2009-08-23 Thread Elio Maldonado


On 08/23/2009 12:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:49:39 + (UTC)
Elio Maldonadoemaldon...@fedoraproject.org  wrote:

   

Author: emaldonado

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/nss-softokn/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv6734

Added Files:
nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2
Log Message:
Initial checkin
 

Looks like somehow this tar.bz2 file got checked into cvs. ;(

Can you 'cvs rm -f nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2; cvs
commit' to get rid of it in checkouts at least?

Thanks,

kevin

   

Kevin,

This wasn't an oversight, nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2 needs 
to be there for the same reason we currently keep 
nss-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2 for NSS, because of Red Hat's ban of 
non-free sources.


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Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-23 Thread Seth Vidal




On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Björn Persson wrote:


Debayan Banerjee wrote:

2009/8/24 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se

That's not all that quick. There ought to be a tool for this. Given a
package
name it should print the dependency tree for that package. It could have
an option to suppress packages in the base set. Couldn't Yum be taught to
answer
that kind of queries?


edos-rpmcheck

http://www.edos-project.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/debcheck_home


Judging from the description on that page, that's not what I want. It says the
program checks whether a package is installable. Yum can do that. I want to
check whether a package drags in other packages unnecessarily.



define unnecessarily?

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Re: rpms/nss-softokn/devel nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2, NONE, 1.1

2009-08-23 Thread Elio Maldonado


On 08/23/2009 06:17 PM, Conrad Meyer wrote:

On Sunday 23 August 2009 05:43:27 pm Elio Maldonado wrote:
   

On 08/23/2009 12:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 

Looks like somehow this tar.bz2 file got checked into cvs. ;(

snip

kevin
   

Kevin,

This wasn't an oversight, nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2 needs
to be there for the same reason we currently keep
nss-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2 for NSS, because of Red Hat's ban of
non-free sources.

Elio
 

These should still go in the lookaside cache and not CVS, unless there is some
reason I'm not reading here.

Regards,
   

Conrad,

You are right.  By reading at Makefile.common it seems that make 
new-source nss-softokn-3.12.3.99.3-stripped.tar.bz2
would be the way to place them in the lookaside cache (after I do the 
cvs remove on them).


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Koji build failure with coreutils-7.5

2009-08-23 Thread Todd Zullinger

I tried to build a git update into dist-f12-openssl earlier and had it
die in %doc with an error from cp¹:

cp: preserving times for 
`/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/git-1.6.4.1-1.fc12.i386/usr/share/doc/git-1.6.4.1/contrib/hooks':
 Function not implemented

I _think_ this is due to contrib/hooks being a symlink.  A nearly
identical spec file worked when Tomas build git-1.6.4 in
dist-f12-openssl just a few days ago, but that was with
coreutils-7.4-6 in the buildroot.

It works for me in mock.  Perhaps the problem has something to do with
the filesystem or mount options on the build system.

Has anyone noticed similar problems?

¹ https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1627434name=build.log

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[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing

2009-08-23 Thread es

To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029





--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Sun Aug 23 14:22:05 + 
2009 ---
@hussnain: Cannot confirm.
On vista, I installed the Urdu fonts mentioned in issue 104011 and made again an
export to PDF from your document:
- The Urdu fonts are embedded in the PDF
- the PDF looks good (so far I don't understand the text and cannot judge
about its quality).

So obviously this you don't have the problem fixed by the current issue and
issue 104011 has been assumed erroneously to be a duplicate of this one.

Feel free to reopen issue 104011 but please detail there *exactly* what and
where the problem is: still not beeing exported to pdf correctly or are
broken and not readable are to general description.
Describe which characters are broken and if possible and a screenshot of how
they should look like.


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[Bug 518887] FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of Kurier-Regular.otf

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[Bug 518887] FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of Kurier-Regular.otf

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[Bug 518887] New: FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of Kurier-Regular.otf

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Summary: FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of 
Kurier-Regular.otf

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   Summary: FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version
of Kurier-Regular.otf
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 11
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: fontforge
AssignedTo: ke...@tummy.com
ReportedBy: zhoujingmil...@gmail.com
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Classification: Fedora


Description of problem:
When the font attached is opened in FontForge and TrueType option is selected
in Generate Fonts in FontForge, FontForge segfaults.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
fontforge-20090224-2.fc11.i586

Kurier-Regular.otf as is shipped in TeX Live 2008

How reproducible:

Open the font attached with FontForge, and select Generate Fonts in File.
Choose TrueType option, and click on Save. Then FontForge segfaults.


Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open the font attached with fontforge path_to_the_attached_font
2. Click on File
3. Click on Generate Fonts
4. Select TrueType in export type.
5. Click on Save.

Actual results:
FontForge segfaults.

Expected results:
FontForge does not segfault and Kurier-Regular.ttf is generated in the expected
location.

Additional info:
Vide attachment please.

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--- Comment #3 from zhoujingmil...@gmail.com  2009-08-23 17:09:19 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=358386)
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where-Message in gdb after FontForge segfaults

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--- Comment #5 from zhoujingmil...@gmail.com  2009-08-23 17:13:36 EDT ---
Just forgot something --- I built with the cvs FontForge with bytecode
interpreter support and the 0622 version without bci.

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--- Comment #4 from zhoujingmil...@gmail.com  2009-08-23 17:12:11 EDT ---
Since I passed arguments to rpmbuild to build bytecode interpreter and subpixel
hinting in freetype (using fedora's src.rpm), it could be related to freetype.
However, a cvs version and the 0622 version of FontForge still fails at the
same font. The src.rpm is for freetype-2.3.9-5.fc11.i586 .

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Introduction

2009-08-23 Thread Christopher Hultin

Hello, my name is Chris.  I'm skilled with HTML/XHTML and CSS.  I am  
also CIW Certified.  I have hosted my own website, and have a home  
server configured with Fedora 11.  Thanks for reading this introduction!


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Re: Introduction

2009-08-23 Thread Christopher Hultin

Thanks for telling me that.  I'll check that out right now.  And that  
gives me a reason to get on Colloquy again.

On Aug 23, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:


On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Christopher Hultin wrote:

Hello, my name is Chris.  I'm skilled with HTML/XHTML and CSS.  I  
am also CIW
Certified.  I have hosted my own website, and have a home server  
configured

with Fedora 11.  Thanks for reading this introduction!



Welcome Chris!  We have weekly meetings on Thursday at 20:00 UTC.  See
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings for more
information.  Otherwise you can catch us on #fedora-admin on
irc.freenode.net

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Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?

2009-08-23 Thread Matt Domsch

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 09:22:28AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
 
 Is there any IPv6 plan for *.fedoraproject.org ?

I filed  a ticket:
  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1623
and the related wiki page:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/IPv6

to get started on this.

It would really help to get info from our kind hosting providers (PHX,
tummy, telia, ibiblio, BU, serverbeach, others?) to know exactly what
IPv6 capability is already present and how to get address assignments
for our use there.

My thought is this.  MirrorManager is the most interesting service we
offer that would make direct use of an IPv6 address (to do netblock
lookups).  As was noted in the now-closed ticket
  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1057
we will have to enable (some of?) our proxy servers to serve over
IPv6, as that is where mirrors.fp.o and download.fp.o resolve.  We
could set up a publictest proxy instance in one of the colos with
native IPv6 already, one that matches the existing proxy there, but
which also serves IPv6.  We create a mirrors-ipv6.fedoraproject.org
AAA record which points at that proxy, and use that to test out the
rest of the infrastructur (which remains serving IPv4 unchanged).
This would give me a chance to work out any bugs in MM which I'm sure
exist (at the very least, python-pydns doesn't do -record lookups
and will need fixing).

The automatic Internet2 detection will need some help too, as right
now the BGP tables I'm pulling from
  http://syslog.abilene.ucaid.edu/bgp/WASH/RIBS/
is only listing IPv4 addresses.


As for serving other content, if it's fronted by the proxy servers
(e.g. web content), then it should naturally start working via the
IPv6-enabled proxys.  Testing will prove that out.

For non-web content (git, cvs, ssh?), I believe this is mostly hosted
in PHX, which at this point we don't believe has native IPv6.  How can
we go about requesting such in the colo?  I presume this is something
that Red Hat IS would have to ask for on our behalf.  I'd much rather
try to get native going, instead of dealing with 6to4 (the nearest
6to4 server is 10 hops and 60+ms away) or tunnels.

fedorapeople is at BU, which has some native IPv6 capability, but it's
not clear they use it:
  http://www.mrp.net/IPv6_Survey.html

As for DNS servers (serving DNS over IPv6), we have:
ns1 is at serverbeach.
ns2 is at ibiblio.

We'll need to know their native IPv6 capability before proceeding
there.  This is less critical, as most users are still doing their DNS
lookups to an IPv4 DNS server at their ISP.  But it would be nice.

So, that's my thoughts.  I'd love to hear yours.
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Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?

2009-08-23 Thread David JM Emmett

A rather large ballache would also be ip6tables - I saw no mention in  
your post - thought I'd throw it out there also.


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On 23 Aug 2009, at 21:50, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote:


On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 09:22:28AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:


Is there any IPv6 plan for *.fedoraproject.org ?


I filed  a ticket:
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1623
and the related wiki page:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/IPv6

to get started on this.

It would really help to get info from our kind hosting providers (PHX,
tummy, telia, ibiblio, BU, serverbeach, others?) to know exactly what
IPv6 capability is already present and how to get address assignments
for our use there.

My thought is this.  MirrorManager is the most interesting service we
offer that would make direct use of an IPv6 address (to do netblock
lookups).  As was noted in the now-closed ticket
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1057
we will have to enable (some of?) our proxy servers to serve over
IPv6, as that is where mirrors.fp.o and download.fp.o resolve.  We
could set up a publictest proxy instance in one of the colos with
native IPv6 already, one that matches the existing proxy there, but
which also serves IPv6.  We create a mirrors-ipv6.fedoraproject.org
AAA record which points at that proxy, and use that to test out the
rest of the infrastructur (which remains serving IPv4 unchanged).
This would give me a chance to work out any bugs in MM which I'm sure
exist (at the very least, python-pydns doesn't do -record lookups
and will need fixing).

The automatic Internet2 detection will need some help too, as right
now the BGP tables I'm pulling from
 http://syslog.abilene.ucaid.edu/bgp/WASH/RIBS/
is only listing IPv4 addresses.


As for serving other content, if it's fronted by the proxy servers
(e.g. web content), then it should naturally start working via the
IPv6-enabled proxys.  Testing will prove that out.

For non-web content (git, cvs, ssh?), I believe this is mostly hosted
in PHX, which at this point we don't believe has native IPv6.  How can
we go about requesting such in the colo?  I presume this is something
that Red Hat IS would have to ask for on our behalf.  I'd much rather
try to get native going, instead of dealing with 6to4 (the nearest
6to4 server is 10 hops and 60+ms away) or tunnels.

fedorapeople is at BU, which has some native IPv6 capability, but it's
not clear they use it:
 http://www.mrp.net/IPv6_Survey.html

As for DNS servers (serving DNS over IPv6), we have:
ns1 is at serverbeach.
ns2 is at ibiblio.

We'll need to know their native IPv6 capability before proceeding
there.  This is less critical, as most users are still doing their DNS
lookups to an IPv4 DNS server at their ISP.  But it would be nice.

So, that's my thoughts.  I'd love to hear yours.
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Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?

2009-08-23 Thread Jeff Garzik


On 08/23/2009 06:59 PM, David JM Emmett wrote:

A rather large ballache would also be ip6tables - I saw no mention in
your post - thought I'd throw it out there also.


Are you saying that IPv4 rules would need IPv6 counterparts, or 
something more?


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Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?

2009-08-23 Thread Jeff Garzik


On 08/23/2009 04:50 PM, Matt Domsch wrote:

The automatic Internet2 detection will need some help too, as right
now the BGP tables I'm pulling from
   http://syslog.abilene.ucaid.edu/bgp/WASH/RIBS/
is only listing IPv4 addresses.


neat :) didn't know about this.



As for serving other content, if it's fronted by the proxy servers
(e.g. web content), then it should naturally start working via the
IPv6-enabled proxys.  Testing will prove that out.


Yep.

Though I would prioritize A+ web setups below other tasks, since web 
content has the greatest possibility of meeting a misconfigured user, 
who cannot figure out what went wrong.




For non-web content (git, cvs, ssh?), I believe this is mostly hosted
in PHX, which at this point we don't believe has native IPv6.  How can
we go about requesting such in the colo?  I presume this is something
that Red Hat IS would have to ask for on our behalf.  I'd much rather
try to get native going, instead of dealing with 6to4 (the nearest
6to4 server is 10 hops and 60+ms away) or tunnels.


Agreed...  unless native IPv6 is estimated to be years away.

Internal pushing at RH has yielded very little result...



fedorapeople is at BU, which has some native IPv6 capability, but it's
not clear they use it:
   http://www.mrp.net/IPv6_Survey.html

As for DNS servers (serving DNS over IPv6), we have:
ns1 is at serverbeach.


Best googled estimates are probably by the end of 2009



ns2 is at ibiblio.


That's the good news.  ibiblio has been experimenting with IPv6 for 
years:  http://theclassicalstation.org/press/2004_ipv6.shtml



Also, another DNS issue:  getting  glue records served by the .org 
registrar.




We'll need to know their native IPv6 capability before proceeding
there.  This is less critical, as most users are still doing their DNS
lookups to an IPv4 DNS server at their ISP.  But it would be nice.


Technically this is true... but it is also true that most users are 
still doing IPv4 ;)


I tend to look at DNS as a sooner rather than later hurdle, because 
that is the first link necessary to construct an all-IPv6 path to the 
destination servers.


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Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?

2009-08-23 Thread David JM Emmett


That is why ip6tables exists ;)

Mind you puppet will make things significantly easier, do you also  
have hardware firewalls/a NAT setup?


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On 24 Aug 2009, at 02:47, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com wrote:


On 08/23/2009 06:59 PM, David JM Emmett wrote:

A rather large ballache would also be ip6tables - I saw no mention in
your post - thought I'd throw it out there also.


Are you saying that IPv4 rules would need IPv6 counterparts, or  
something more?


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Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?

2009-08-23 Thread Jeff Garzik


On 08/24/2009 01:17 AM, David JM Emmett wrote:

On 24 Aug 2009, at 02:47, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com wrote:


On 08/23/2009 06:59 PM, David JM Emmett wrote:

A rather large ballache would also be ip6tables - I saw no mention in
your post - thought I'd throw it out there also.


Are you saying that IPv4 rules would need IPv6 counterparts, or something more?



That is why ip6tables exists ;)


Yes; I would hope that a Linux kernel developer who has worked 
extensively in network (me) and the entire infrastructure team knows this.


Was trying to determine if your point is simply remember ipv6 rules, 
or something more detailed and explicit...


Regards,

Jeff


P.S.  Please don't top-post.

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Re: Spell checking in vim

2009-08-23 Thread Marco Guazzone

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
[cut text]

 I am missing something. If you get the file how do you get vim to
 correct the misspelled words?


Once you have the dictionary file in $HOME/.vim/spell (in this case
the file is de.utf-8.spl) you can spell check inside ViM by issueing
the command:

:setlocal spell spelllang=de

After that ViM will mark (in red for me) all misspelled words in
real-time (i.e. while you're typing).

Since I frequently use this feature I've created some key bindings
inside my $HOME/.vimrc:

map F5 Esc:setlocal nospellCR
map F6 Esc:setlocal spell spelllang=enCR
map F7 Esc:setlocal spell spelllang=itCR

If you want a list of possible candidates of a misspelled word, move
the cursor on that word and (in command mode) type: z=.
Instead if that word is right (e.g. e technical word) and you want to
insert in the dictionary file type zg
If you want to remove a word from a dictionary type zw.
Finally for moving to the next/previous misspelled word type ]s and
[s respectively.

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F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

Hello there,


I'm getting an error when attempting to create an audio CD from flac or
mp3 files. K3b 1.0.5 (using KDE 3.5.10-13-fc10) within Fedora 10. Blank
CD-R inserted and recognized, flac/mp3 files show correct permissions
for user.

The point is that the necessary plug-ins are loaded as seen in the K3b
plugin configuration details (*) and that few weeks ago I was able to
create such audio CD from flac or mp3 files..

The error when I click a flac or mp3 file:
Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application 
supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.

(*):
$ rpm -qa|grep -i k3b
k3b-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
k3b-libs-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i38


I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this
operation, maybe a yum update..

Any hint?


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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

2009-08-23 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 22/08/09 23:24, stan wrote:
 On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:27:30 +0200
 Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have two pieces of audio hardware. How do I tell pulseaudio on
 Fedora 11 which one to use? Does a config file exist for that purpose
 and how is its syntax?

 
 I think it is in (Gnome menu)
 Applications - Sound and Video - PulseAudio Manager

Sorry, but I don't understand how to use PulseAudio Manager.

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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

2009-08-23 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 23/08/09 00:59, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 I have two pieces of audio hardware. How do I tell pulseaudio on Fedora 11
 which one to use? Does a config file exist for that purpose and how is its
 syntax?

 There are both system wide and user preference settings. For user
 preferences, I like to use pavucontrol (Applications -- Sound 
 Video -- PulseAudio Volume Control). Pick the Playback tab. You
 click on the down arrow for the device you want to change the output
 for, pick Move Stream, and change the output channel.

The Playback window only has one down arrow at Show and it has three
choices: All Streams, Applications, and Virtual Streams. I don't see
any Move Stream and nothing about output channel.

Unfortunately pavucontrol is not self-explanatory and apparently there is no
help available, so I don't see how I should use it. Perhaps PulseAudio is
somewhat premature in its present state of development?

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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 11:36 +0200, wwp wrote:
 I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this
 operation, maybe a yum update..
  
 Any hint?
 
Hint:  Look in the /var/log/yum.log file.

Need more help?  Post the tail end of the file, include what's been
recently installed since the problem.

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Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 05:07 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 make sure you have the kmod-nvidia or akmod-nvidia RPM for the
 correct architecture

I suspect that really *needs* to be an *or*.  If one's used kmod-nvidia,
then tried akmod-nvidia, without removing the former, that may be a
cause for problems.

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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

2009-08-23 Thread Zoltan Szabo

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:36:50 +0200
wwp subscr...@free.fr wrote:

 Hello there,
 
 
 I'm getting an error when attempting to create an audio CD from flac
 or mp3 files. K3b 1.0.5 (using KDE 3.5.10-13-fc10) within Fedora 10.
 Blank CD-R inserted and recognized, flac/mp3 files show correct
 permissions for user.
 
 The point is that the necessary plug-ins are loaded as seen in the K3b
 plugin configuration details (*) and that few weeks ago I was able to
 create such audio CD from flac or mp3 files..
 
 The error when I click a flac or mp3 file:
 Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
 You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another
 application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files
 to the K3b project.
 
 (*):
 $ rpm -qa|grep -i k3b
 k3b-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
 k3b-libs-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
 k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i38
 
 
 I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this
 operation, maybe a yum update..
 
 Any hint?
 
 
 Regards,

yum install libmad?, Z.

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Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?

2009-08-23 Thread Tom Horsley

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:19:30 +0930
Tim wrote:

 I suspect that really *needs* to be an *or*.  If one's used kmod-nvidia,
 then tried akmod-nvidia, without removing the former, that may be a
 cause for problems.

I don't think so - all akmod-nvidia does is build and install the
same kmod-nvidia rpm that you would have gotten if you waited for
the rpmfusion repos to have it. At least that's the way it always
acted for me.

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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:25:39 +0100, Anne wrote:

 On Sunday 23 August 2009 10:36:50 wwp wrote:
  Hello there,
 
 
  I'm getting an error when attempting to create an audio CD from flac or
  mp3 files. K3b 1.0.5 (using KDE 3.5.10-13-fc10) within Fedora 10. Blank
  CD-R inserted and recognized, flac/mp3 files show correct permissions
  for user.
 
  The point is that the necessary plug-ins are loaded as seen in the K3b
  plugin configuration details (*) and that few weeks ago I was able to
  create such audio CD from flac or mp3 files..
 
  The error when I click a flac or mp3 file:
  Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
  You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another
  application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the
  K3b project.
 
  (*):
  $ rpm -qa|grep -i k3b
  k3b-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
  k3b-libs-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
  k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i38
 
 
  I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this
  operation, maybe a yum update..
 
  Any hint?
 
 Are you running k3b-1.66.0-2?  If so, the k3b-extras package that matches it 
 is not yet ready.

Above says k3b 1.0.5.  Is this with SELinux on or off? Anything in the logs?

Let RPM verify the installed packages (use root for that):

  rpm -V k3b k3b-libs k3b-extras-freeworld

In addition to that, show the output of

  ldd -r /usr/lib/kde3/libk3bflacdecoder.so

since the FLAC decoder is part of k3b even.

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Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd

2009-08-23 Thread Didar Hossain

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Arun Shrimaliarun.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Didar Hossaindidar.hoss...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Arun Shrimaliarun.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Didar Hossaindidar.hoss...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimaliarun.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11,
 which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password
 through browser interface.

 Is there any web based utility through which users can change their
 password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam

 I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd
 (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system
 password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only
 smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change
 which is giving error ??

 I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB
 passwords in this case.

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 But I don't know the tdbsam, can anybody help me out 

 Arun

 I meant writing a PHP script as a wrapper around `smbpasswd' - you do
 not have to worry about manipulating the tdbsam file youself. If you
 want an example script then let me know.

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 Dear Didar,

 I am not an PHP expert, can you please help me, may be it would
 helpful for lots of other people like me.

I have sent you the script off-list; I do not have any place to host
it on the net for the time being. You may publish it if you like.

Didar

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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

2009-08-23 Thread Anne Wilson

On Sunday 23 August 2009 12:25:39 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 23 August 2009 10:36:50 wwp wrote:
  Hello there,
 
 
  I'm getting an error when attempting to create an audio CD from flac or
  mp3 files. K3b 1.0.5 (using KDE 3.5.10-13-fc10) within Fedora 10. Blank
  CD-R inserted and recognized, flac/mp3 files show correct permissions
  for user.
 
  The point is that the necessary plug-ins are loaded as seen in the K3b
  plugin configuration details (*) and that few weeks ago I was able to
  create such audio CD from flac or mp3 files..
 
  The error when I click a flac or mp3 file:
  Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
  You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another
  application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to
  the K3b project.
 
  (*):
  $ rpm -qa|grep -i k3b
  k3b-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
  k3b-libs-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
  k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i38
 
 
  I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this
  operation, maybe a yum update..
 
  Any hint?

 Are you running k3b-1.66.0-2?  If so, the k3b-extras package that matches
 it is not yet ready.

Sorry - got distracted and didn't see your version.  However, please check for 
k3b-extras

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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

Hello Zoltan,


On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:59:18 +0200 Zoltan Szabo szz...@elte.hu wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:36:50 +0200
 wwp subscr...@free.fr wrote:
 
  Hello there,
  
  
  I'm getting an error when attempting to create an audio CD from flac
  or mp3 files. K3b 1.0.5 (using KDE 3.5.10-13-fc10) within Fedora 10.
  Blank CD-R inserted and recognized, flac/mp3 files show correct
  permissions for user.
  
  The point is that the necessary plug-ins are loaded as seen in the K3b
  plugin configuration details (*) and that few weeks ago I was able to
  create such audio CD from flac or mp3 files..
  
  The error when I click a flac or mp3 file:
  Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
  You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another
  application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files
  to the K3b project.
  
  (*):
  $ rpm -qa|grep -i k3b
  k3b-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
  k3b-libs-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
  k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i38
  
  
  I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this
  operation, maybe a yum update..
  
  Any hint?
  
  
  Regards,
 
 yum install libmad?, Z.

libmad is already installed:

$rpm -qa|grep -i libmad
libmad-0.15.1b-12.fc10.i386


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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

Hello Michael,


On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:38:58 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:25:39 +0100, Anne wrote:
 
  On Sunday 23 August 2009 10:36:50 wwp wrote:
   Hello there,
  
  
   I'm getting an error when attempting to create an audio CD from flac or
   mp3 files. K3b 1.0.5 (using KDE 3.5.10-13-fc10) within Fedora 10. Blank
   CD-R inserted and recognized, flac/mp3 files show correct permissions
   for user.
  
   The point is that the necessary plug-ins are loaded as seen in the K3b
   plugin configuration details (*) and that few weeks ago I was able to
   create such audio CD from flac or mp3 files..
  
   The error when I click a flac or mp3 file:
   Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
   You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another
   application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the
   K3b project.
  
   (*):
   $ rpm -qa|grep -i k3b
   k3b-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
   k3b-libs-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386
   k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i38
  
  
   I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this
   operation, maybe a yum update..
  
   Any hint?
  
  Are you running k3b-1.66.0-2?  If so, the k3b-extras package that matches 
  it 
  is not yet ready.
 
 Above says k3b 1.0.5.  Is this with SELinux on or off? Anything in the logs?

SELinux currently off! :-)


 Let RPM verify the installed packages (use root for that):
 
   rpm -V k3b k3b-libs k3b-extras-freeworld

This commands outputs nothing and returns 0.


 In addition to that, show the output of
 
   ldd -r /usr/lib/kde3/libk3bflacdecoder.so
 
 since the FLAC decoder is part of k3b even.

Here it is:

$ ldd -r /usr/lib/kde3/libk3bflacdecoder.so
linux-gate.so.1 =  (0x00221000)
libk3b.so.3 = /usr/lib/libk3b.so.3 (0x00cfd000)
libk3bdevice.so.5 = /usr/lib/libk3bdevice.so.5 (0x0034a000)
libkdecore.so.4 = /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 (0xb7e2)
libqt-mt.so.3 = /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0xb75a5000)
libFLAC++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libFLAC++.so.6 (0x0024a000)
libtag.so.1 = /usr/lib/libtag.so.1 (0x0012d000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00a5)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0063d000)
libsamplerate.so.0 = /usr/lib/libsamplerate.so.0 (0x00b7e000)
libdvdread.so.4 = /usr/lib/libdvdread.so.4 (0x0019b000)
libkio.so.4 = /usr/lib/libkio.so.4 (0xb71e4000)
libkdeui.so.4 = /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4 (0xb6e87000)
libDCOP.so.4 = /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4 (0x005e2000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x001ba000)
libkdefx.so.4 = /usr/lib/libkdefx.so.4 (0x00897000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x001bf000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x001d9000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0054b000)
libhal.so.1 = /usr/lib/libhal.so.1 (0x00202000)
libdbus-1.so.3 = /lib/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x00262000)
libdbus-qt-1.so.1 = /usr/lib/libdbus-qt-1.so.1 (0x004cd000)
libutempter.so.0 = /usr/lib/libutempter.so.0 (0x0061e000)
libresolv.so.2 = /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x00f47000)
libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x00a02000)
libart_lgpl_2.so.2 = /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2 (0x009d9000)
libidn.so.11 = /lib/libidn.so.11 (0x00f81000)
libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x00222000)
libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb6e7)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb6e6)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb6d5f000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00214000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb6d45000)
libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x005c4000)
libmng.so.1 = /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 (0xb6cd5000)
libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0xb6cb2000)
libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x0055e000)
libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00304000)
libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x0086a000)
libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x0021c000)
libXft.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0xb6c9d000)
libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/freetype-freeworld/libfreetype.so.6 
(0xb6c0a000)
libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xb6bdb000)
libFLAC.so.8 = /usr/lib/libFLAC.so.8 (0xb6b9c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0010a000)
libkdesu.so.4 = /usr/lib/libkdesu.so.4 (0xb6b85000)
libkwalletclient.so.1 = /usr/lib/libkwalletclient.so.1 (0xb6b74000)
libacl.so.1 = /lib/libacl.so.1 (0x002a3000)
libattr.so.1 = /lib/libattr.so.1 (0x00fc)
libcap.so.2 = /lib/libcap.so.2 (0xb6b6f000)
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0xb6b54000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x004ac000)
libxcb-xlib.so.0 = /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 (0x0021f000)
libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb6b38000)
libuuid.so.1 = /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x002ab000)

Re: How to kill Kpackagekit update notification

2009-08-23 Thread rgheck


On 08/22/2009 10:12 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
Kpackagekit persistently pops up notices, overlaying whatever is 
on-screen. Clicking the 'do not notify me' link does not do anything.

How can I kill this?
It's another of the little things I classify as we're smarter than 
you are, so we are going to force this on you for your own good...



System SettingsAdd and Remove SoftwareSettings.

rh

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Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?

2009-08-23 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 02:18 -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote:
 
 
 Matthew Saltzman-2 wrote:
  
  
  You should be good to go at that point, at least until the kernel
  version number changes from 2.6.29 to 2.6.30.
  
  
 
 What is the significance of 2.6.30 in this regard?  Are you implying that
 the akmod-nvidia and/or kmod-nvidia won't work with 2.6.30?

Might or might not without an update from nVidia or a patch from
RPMfusion.

Linux kernel APIs and BPIs are not guaranteed to be stable across
versions, and proprietary developers often need to race to release
compatible updates when new kernel versions come out.  nVidia and VMware
are commonly used packages that are frequently affected.  Kernel
developers don't have much sympathy for proprietary developers (to put
it kindly), so breakage is not uncommon.

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Re: avidemux: trouble initialising audio device

2009-08-23 Thread James Bridge

On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 23:37 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 James Bridge wrote:
  I am trying to use avidemux in fedora 11 but when I try to play a video
  I get the message trouble initializing audio device. The video plays,
  but silently. Prefs for sound give various options, including ALSA but
  not PulseAudio. I suppose that's the problem. Has anyone got it to work?
 
 If you run avidemux with the command
 
   pasuspender -- avidemux
 
 pulseaudio will be disabled until avidemux exits, so avidemux will access
 the ALSA driver.
 Even if it is not exactly what you asked, it could be useful as a workaround.
 You also probably gain a better video/audio sync, which is good if you are
 editing video stuff.
 
 Best regards.
 -- 
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Thanks for this - I got avidemux running this way but it still gives the
same error. I want to hear the sound to edit without cutting off what
people are saying. So far, no solution.

I must have a look at PA mamager

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Re: FC11 - flash plugin for Firefox

2009-08-23 Thread John Aldrich

Coming into this discussion late, but there *is* a Beta version of Flash 
for x86_64 linux here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Scroll down to the bottom and you'll find the link to the download.

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Re: Problems with Dual Display with Radeon Mobility 7500

2009-08-23 Thread William M. Quarles


Marko Vojinovic wrote:

On Friday 21 August 2009 18:20:06 William M. Quarles wrote:

I'm trying to set up a spanning desktop on my Dell Latitude C640 laptop,
which has an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics chipset and a Dell 1504FP
LCD monitor in analog (VGA) mode. I use Gnome on Fedora 10.

I can (sometimes) get the spanning desktop to work using
System/Preferences/Hardware/Screen Resolution from the Gnome menu with
the laptop configured to be on the left, and the external display
configured to be on the right. However, this is actually the opposite of
my physical setup at my desk. Every time that I try to switch the
displays to their actual layout, the desktop still spans, but the
displays are mirrored, which is not only useless, but can also cause
problems, especially when sometimes it results in the display without
the top and bottom bars missing (!). Does anybody know how I can get
this work properly with the laptop on the right and the external monitor
on the left?


I would try to do it from the command line first, using xrandr. You can put all 
desktops left, right, up, down of each other, overlap, rotate, reflect 
sideways, upside-down, inside-out, and whatnot...


When you sort out the options that make it work as you wish, you can put it in 
~/.login or /etc/rc.local or whereever...


man xrandr



It seems that putting the command in ~/.login is not useful, as it gets 
overridden. I still have to run xrandr manually every time that I log 
in. That is, unless I have to do something besides creating the ~/.login 
file, entering the xrandr command in it, saving the file, and then 
setting the ~/.login file to be executable. Does anybody know what else 
would need to be done?


I also don't see how using /etc/rc.local would do any good, as I would 
think that Fedora would still be in text-mode at that point. Then 
again, I know next to nothing about current x.org stuff and how to get a 
spanning display properly configured.


HELP! I need somebody... HELP! Not just anybody... HELP! You know I need 
someone... HE-e-elp!


Peace,
William

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Re: Spell checking in vim

2009-08-23 Thread Aaron Konstam

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 09:30 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 [cut text]
 
  I am missing something. If you get the file how do you get vim to
  correct the misspelled words?
 
 
 Once you have the dictionary file in $HOME/.vim/spell (in this case
 the file is de.utf-8.spl) you can spell check inside ViM by issueing
 the command:
 
 :setlocal spell spelllang=de
 
 After that ViM will mark (in red for me) all misspelled words in
 real-time (i.e. while you're typing).
 
 Since I frequently use this feature I've created some key bindings
 inside my $HOME/.vimrc:
 
 map F5 Esc:setlocal nospellCR
 map F6 Esc:setlocal spell spelllang=enCR
 map F7 Esc:setlocal spell spelllang=itCR
 
 If you want a list of possible candidates of a misspelled word, move
 the cursor on that word and (in command mode) type: z=.
 Instead if that word is right (e.g. e technical word) and you want to
 insert in the dictionary file type zg
 If you want to remove a word from a dictionary type zw.
 Finally for moving to the next/previous misspelled word type ]s and
 [s respectively.
 
 -- Marco
 
Seems more complicated than using aspell ot ispell on the vim file.
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Re: Spell checking in vim

2009-08-23 Thread Marco Guazzone

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Seems more complicated than using aspell ot ispell on the vim file.
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Don't know what is *best.*.. But the ViM-way is good for me, ;)

With the key bindings above, I simply press F6 or F7 for the English
or Italian language respectively and then I'm able to check for
misspelled words on real-time (i.e., while I'm just typing them).
The spell checker remain active until you exit from ViM or disable
with the command given above

Instead, for using aspell/ispell I have to invoke it explicitly and it
does not work at real-time.
This is what made me move from ispell/aspell to ViM-spell :)


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Re: Custom installation of Fedora

2009-08-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 09:50:39 +0100,
  Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote:
 On Sunday 23 August 2009 00:13:28 Markus Kesaromous wrote:
  During fedora install, if the user selects a customized  install rather
  than the default, the user has to manually click on each and every app in
  the selected group. This is horribly tedious. In the old RH releases, you
  could just click on Everything button, and ALL of the rpms on the DVD
  would get installed. Is it too much to ask to add the Install Everything
  button for Fedora
 
 It was explained long ago that installing everything would throw up some 
 serious conflicts/problems that would stop many thing working correctly.

Which was really an indication of problems that needed to get fixed, not
specifically that there should never be an Everything button.
I think the original characterization of the issue as the Anaconda guys
don't want the feature, is the better explanation.

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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 On 23/08/09 00:59, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 There are both system wide and user preference settings. For user
 preferences, I like to use pavucontrol (Applications -- Sound 
 Video -- PulseAudio Volume Control). Pick the Playback tab. You
 click on the down arrow for the device you want to change the output
 for, pick Move Stream, and change the output channel.
 
 The Playback window only has one down arrow at Show and it has three
 choices: All Streams, Applications, and Virtual Streams. I don't see
 any Move Stream and nothing about output channel.
 
 Unfortunately pavucontrol is not self-explanatory and apparently there is no
 help available, so I don't see how I should use it. Perhaps PulseAudio is
 somewhat premature in its present state of development?
 
It sounds as if you do not have the application playing that you
want to direct to another output. When it is playing, you should
have 3 icons on the right side for your application, with the down
arrow icon being the one farthest to the right.

Pavucontrol is for controlling the output of playing applications.
There is probably a way to set it up before you start playing, but I
have never needed it in the past. I just purchased a USB audio
device so I could play with that aspect of PA. I also have to play
with the network capabilities one of these days...

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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 
 Unfortunately pavucontrol is not self-explanatory and apparently there is no
 help available, so I don't see how I should use it. Perhaps PulseAudio is
 somewhat premature in its present state of development?
 
You may want to visit http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/Documentation for a
better explanation then I can give...

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Re: Custom installation of Fedora

Anne Wilson:
 It was explained long ago that installing everything would throw up some 
 serious conflicts/problems that would stop many thing working correctly.

Bruno Wolff III:
 Which was really an indication of problems that needed to get fixed, not
 specifically that there should never be an Everything button.

The solution for I cannot fit fit my elbow into my ear is that you
stop trying to do the impossible, no amount of arguing that you want
to is going to change the facts that it's impossible.  There isn't
going to be any fixing of trying to do something that just can't be
done.

Sure, some of the problems may be down to some packages which are merely
problematic in combination.  But there's always been some packages which
were mutually exclusive.  And there always will be, unless you eradicate
such packages from the install media, completely.  And, then, you'll
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Re: How to kill Kpackagekit update notification

On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 22:12 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote:
 Kpackagekit persistently pops up notices, overlaying whatever is 
 on-screen. Clicking the 'do not notify me' link does not do anything.
 How can I kill this?

In Gnome, the packagekit nagger is a program started by Gnome session.
It's in the session preferences list of programs that you can modify.

Does KDE have something similar for programs run with a KDE session?

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Re: list files but not directory

2009-08-23 Thread Steven W. Orr

On 08/22/09 16:46, quoth Mikkel L. Ellertson:
 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 There is just one thing that baffles me here --- isn't a directory also a 
 file? 
 Given that, what you ask for is not an option to list only files, it is an 
 option to list everything except directories. In other words, you are asking 
 for an option that says list the directory contents, but omit certain 
 things.

 The more appropriate way to do this is to use some form of filtering. Such a 
 thing does not naturally fit into a list of options of ls, IMHO. What you 
 actually do is perform two operations here --- list the contents, and then 
 filter it to display only some subset. Two operations should be done using 
 two 
 commands, the Unix Way. And the filtering approach gives you more 
 flexibility 
 what file types to filter out. For example, is /dev/sda a file or a 
 directory? 
 How would this hypothetical ls option behave in this case? List it or not?

 There are not *just directories and files* on the system. There are
 *just files*. And these files might be regular files, directories, devices, 
 stdin/stdout, and who knows what else. You are proposing to add a single 
 option to ls in order to filter out one of these types. Why only this one 
 type? 
 Put a whole bunch of options in ls which could list only regular files, or 
 only 
 character devices, or only hidden directories or... Or better yet, don't put 
 any of that crap into ls, but pipe the ls output and filter it using a more 
 appropriate tool.

 The completely analogous situation is with paging the output of ls. When I 
 first used ls on a directory with lots of files, the natural idea for me was 
 to 
 look into its man page to find some option that would split the output into 
 several screens and display them one by one. I failed to find such an 
 option. 
 After some digging, I found that this is done via a pipe to less:

 ls | less

 And then after some learning I understood that this is actually the better 
 way 
 to do it (more powerful, more flexible, more clean, more useful). The same 
 situation is here with listing only non-directories. 

 The main problem is not lack of functionality, but that Windows-converts 
 have 
 a frame of mind that makes a distinction between directory and file 
 concepts, and believe these concepts are fundamentally different and non-
 overlapping. This is a Bad Idea, and it seems more appropriate to educate 
 users than to add options to ls which make it do things it is not designed 
 for.

 Just remember: Do one simple thing and do i well. ;-)

 And to carry this one step farther, you can create aliases or
 function to do things you require often. For example, you could use
 something like this:
 
 function lsp() { ls $@  less }
 
 so that you could run lsd instead of running ls | less.

Two things!

1. Bash syntax:
This will not work:
function lsp() { ls $@  less }
If you do it in one line then it would have to be
function lsp() { ls $@  less; }

If you say ls  less then you will only run the less command if the ls
command succeeds with a 0 exit status. I know this was a typo but I just
didn't want others to get confused.

*NEVER* use $@ without using double quotes. It is very bad luck and failure to
follow this advise will cause you to send 200 copies of stupid jokes to all
the people you know with aol addresses. And worse, you will end up knowing
more aol people.

What's the difference between an alias and a function? Simple: If you need to
pass arguments then use a function. I mention this because it's another of
those basic sources of confusion.

2. READ THIS BOOK!

http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/

This discussion has flowed from complaining about how deficient ls is, to how
people have to learn new paradigms when moving to a new operating system. One
of the worst things that can happen to a knowledgeable Unix engineer is to
have him subjected to a windoze weenie telling how to do it right. There's a
reason that things work and work well in Unix. Do one simple thing and do it
well is really just the tip of the iceberg. In fact, Eric did a great job of
articulating enough stuff to fill an entire book of stuff that all of us
already know but may not have actually ever articulated. For example, lots of
people like C++. Lots of people like using threads. One of the cool spotlights
in the book is why you should be wary of a project that uses both.

Buy it in a book store, print out your own copy, or read it on line. No matter
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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)


On 23/08/09 16:15, Steve Blackwell wrote:

Anybody know how I can contact the epiphany Fedora package maintainer?

Googling led me to believe that it wasgecko-ma...@redhat.com  but an
e-mail to that address was rejected.

Reason:5.2.1gecko-ma...@redhat.com... Mailbox disabled for this
recipient

In case whoever it is hangs out on this list, I want to know if there
are plans to release a 2.27.x version of epiphany for F10. The epiphany
developers say that there will be no more bug fixes for anything
earlier than 2.27.x because the gecko based back end has been
replaced with a Webkit based back end. Since F10 is still a
supported version I think that there should be a 2.27.x version
available and hopefully the bug I reported has been fixed.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612

Steve



I think epiphany has been orphaned:
but cannot find relevant post on devel*

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)


On 23/08/09 16:37, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-August/msg00722.html

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

On 08/23/2009 09:09 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
 On 23/08/09 16:37, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
 
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-August/msg00722.html

Frank,

If you read the rest of the thread, Adam later clarified what he meant

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-August/msg00729.html

It is not orphaned and continues to be maintained.

Rahul

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:37:05 +0100
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23/08/09 16:15, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  Anybody know how I can contact the epiphany Fedora package
  maintainer?
 
  Googling led me to believe that it wasgecko-ma...@redhat.com  but
  an e-mail to that address was rejected.
 
  Reason:5.2.1gecko-ma...@redhat.com... Mailbox disabled for
  this recipient
 
  In case whoever it is hangs out on this list, I want to know if
  there are plans to release a 2.27.x version of epiphany for F10.
  The epiphany developers say that there will be no more bug fixes
  for anything earlier than 2.27.x because the gecko based back end
  has been replaced with a Webkit based back end. Since F10 is still a
  supported version I think that there should be a 2.27.x version
  available and hopefully the bug I reported has been fixed.
 
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612
 
  Steve
 
 
 I think epiphany has been orphaned:
 but cannot find relevant post on devel*
 
Before I wrote my first e-mail, I found the post you are referring to
but I left the page and couldn't find it again to put into my e-mail. 

Anyhow, the suggestion was that epiphany was orphaned in the sense that
since the maintainer was gecko-maint and gecko was no longer the back
end, it didn't make sense for them to maintain it. A later post from
the gecko maintainers said that they had experience with Webkit and
would continue to be the maintainers.

I shall be really PO'd if epiphany gets dropped altogether. 

Do one thing and do it well.
Do one thing and do it well...

Steve

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:39:52 +0100
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23/08/09 16:37, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
 
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-August/msg00722.html
 

That's the one. Read all the follow-ups.

Steve

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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:23:41 +0200, wwp wrote:

  Let RPM verify the installed packages (use root for that):
  
rpm -V k3b k3b-libs k3b-extras-freeworld
 
 This commands outputs nothing and returns 0.

Good. That means those packages passed the verification.

The long(er) verification of all installed packages would be this:
rpm -Va 21 | tee rpm-Va.txt

I've tried to reproduce your problem with up-to-date F10, but k3b
imports flac and mp3 files just fine. File permission problems
would lead to a different error message.

What else could one check? For a .flac file that fails to import,
does flac -t filename tell anything? (A similar check for mp3
files could be done with madplay, libmad's player).

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Re: Custom installation of Fedora

2009-08-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 00:41:27 +0930,
  Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 
 Sure, some of the problems may be down to some packages which are merely
 problematic in combination.  But there's always been some packages which
 were mutually exclusive.  And there always will be, unless you eradicate
 such packages from the install media, completely.  And, then, you'll
 piss off a whole lot of different people.

It should be possible to install all of the packages in Fedora simultaneously.
That isn't to say that you can be running them all at once, as daemons
providing the same service may have problems running at the same time.
But the packages should at least be installable.

If two packages conflict for installation, that is a problem which should
be fixed. The alternatives system was set up to allow this for such things
as MTAs and JREs.

The live spins already do everything installs, as they copy over the file
system rather than doing package based installation. Maybe that is a solution
the original poster could use.

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

On 08/23/2009 08:45 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
 Anybody know how I can contact the epiphany Fedora package maintainer?
 
 Googling led me to believe that it was gecko-ma...@redhat.com but an
 e-mail to that address was rejected.
 
 Reason:5.2.1 gecko-ma...@redhat.com... Mailbox disabled for this
 recipient
 
 In case whoever it is hangs out on this list, I want to know if there
 are plans to release a 2.27.x version of epiphany for F10. The epiphany
 developers say that there will be no more bug fixes for anything
 earlier than 2.27.x because the gecko based back end has been
 replaced with a Webkit based back end. Since F10 is still a
 supported version I think that there should be a 2.27.x version
 available and hopefully the bug I reported has been fixed.
 
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612

2.27 is a unstable version/ development branch of 2.28. Since it
requires a much newer version of several dependencies, it has no chance
of being pushed as an update to Fedora 10.

http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/packagename-ownerfedoraprojectorg/

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:19:02 +0530
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On 08/23/2009 08:45 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  Anybody know how I can contact the epiphany Fedora package
  maintainer?
...
  In case whoever it is hangs out on this list, I want to know if
  there are plans to release a 2.27.x version of epiphany for F10.
  The epiphany developers say that there will be no more bug fixes
  for anything earlier than 2.27.x because the gecko based back end
  has been replaced with a Webkit based back end. Since F10 is still a
  supported version I think that there should be a 2.27.x version
  available and hopefully the bug I reported has been fixed.
  
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612
 
 2.27 is a unstable version/ development branch of 2.28. Since it
 requires a much newer version of several dependencies, it has no
 chance of being pushed as an update to Fedora 10.
 
 http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/packagename-ownerfedoraprojectorg/

That's what I was afraid of. The effect is that epiphany is not
maintained in F10. There won't be any bug fixes.

Steve

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Re: list files but not directory

2009-08-23 Thread William Case

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 11:18 -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote:
 On 08/22/09 16:46, quoth Mikkel L. Ellertson:

  Just remember: Do one simple thing and do i well. ;-)
 
  And to carry this one step farther, you can create aliases or
  function to do things you require often. For example, you could use
  something like this:
  
  function lsp() { ls $@  less }
  
  so that you could run lsd instead of running ls | less.
 
 Two things!
 
 1. Bash syntax:
 This will not work:
 function lsp() { ls $@  less }
 If you do it in one line then it would have to be
 function lsp() { ls $@  less; }
 
 If you say ls  less then you will only run the less command if the ls
 command succeeds with a 0 exit status. I know this was a typo but I just
 didn't want others to get confused.
 
 *NEVER* use $@ without using double quotes. It is very bad luck and failure to
 follow this advise will cause you to send 200 copies of stupid jokes to all
 the people you know with aol addresses. And worse, you will end up knowing
 more aol people.
 
 What's the difference between an alias and a function? Simple: If you need to
 pass arguments then use a function. I mention this because it's another of
 those basic sources of confusion.
 

After allowing that there can be basic sources of confusion you become
indignant that 'ls' might be a basic sources of confusion and are
offended -- from your engineering pedestal -- that someone should want
to discuss it.

 2. READ THIS BOOK!
 
 http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/

Looked at it and saved the URL as a valuable reference.

 
 This discussion has flowed from complaining about how deficient ls is, to how
 people have to learn new paradigms when moving to a new operating system. 

No one complained about how deficient 'ls'.  'ls' has been around for
years and used by millions.  However, the original poster was having
problems getting a 'clean' list of their 'regular files', a fairly
common beginner complaint.  My suggestion boiled down to, if people
expect to find such an option in 'ls' why not give it to them.

Nothing flowed anywhere.  The original poster asked how she could view
her files (i.e. regular files, text files) from the command line.  A few
suggestions followed including my suggestion that the process could be
made easier.

 One
 of the worst things that can happen to a knowledgeable Unix engineer is to
 have him subjected to a windoze weenie telling how to do it right. 

No one was telling anyone how to do anything right.  In fact, as I
re-read the thread, the posts show a tolerant and polite exchange about
why things like 'ls' are, or, are not done a certain way.  If that kind
of exchange annoys you -- ignore it and stay out of it.

To quote myself from a previous post: Or, maybe, there is just the
natural old pro desire to force an unnecessarily onerous initiation
period on beginners. 

 There's a
 reason that things work and work well in Unix. 

That is like Dad saying Because I said so.

 Do one simple thing and do it
 well is really just the tip of the iceberg. In fact, Eric did a great job of
 articulating enough stuff to fill an entire book of stuff that all of us
 already know but may not have actually ever articulated. For example, lots of
 people like C++. Lots of people like using threads. One of the cool spotlights
 in the book is why you should be wary of a project that uses both.
 
 Buy it in a book store, print out your own copy, or read it on line. No matter
 how much you know, reading this is like running lsd for the first time. ;-)
 
Thank you for the URL.

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Re: FC11 - flash plugin for Firefox

2009-08-23 Thread Ryan Lynch

If you search for 'leigh123' and 'flash-plugin' and '64 bit' and 'rpm'
on fedoraforums.org, there is a very nice RPM and yum repo for Adobe's
64-bit flash-plugin. The packager keeps it reasonably well updated,
too.

-Ryan


On 2009-08-23, John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Coming into this discussion late, but there *is* a Beta version of Flash
 for x86_64 linux here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

 Scroll down to the bottom and you'll find the link to the download.

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Re: list files but not directory

Steven W. Orr wrote:
 
 Two things!
 
 1. Bash syntax:
 This will not work:
 function lsp() { ls $@  less }
 If you do it in one line then it would have to be
 function lsp() { ls $@  less; }
 
Yes - I did forget the ; at the end of the command. Bad morning...

 If you say ls  less then you will only run the less command if the ls
 command succeeds with a 0 exit status. I know this was a typo but I just
 didn't want others to get confused.
 
I prefer not to have less run id ls exits with an error. That way,
if I run something like lsd *.html on a directory with no .html
files in it, I do not have to type the q to exit less.

 *NEVER* use $@ without using double quotes. It is very bad luck and failure to
 follow this advise will cause you to send 200 copies of stupid jokes to all
 the people you know with aol addresses. And worse, you will end up knowing
 more aol people.
 
Oops - definitely a good point!

 What's the difference between an alias and a function? Simple: If you need to
 pass arguments then use a function. I mention this because it's another of
 those basic sources of confusion.
 
I nice explanation.

Mikkel
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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Gordon

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 11:59 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote:
 That's what I was afraid of. The effect is that epiphany is not
 maintained in F10. There won't be any bug fixes.

That is certainly NOT the case. Fedora 10's Epiphany package, just as
all F-10 packages, will stop being maintained only when it hits its
End-of-Life in December. 

There's a significant difference between pushing new major upstream
versions to fix things, and simply applying patches/fixes on an
as-needed basis to the current version. While we can't do the former, as
Seth explained because of necessary updates to so many other
dependencies, we will still happily do the latter as long as F10
continues to be officially supported.
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Re: Is RPMfusion on strike? [SOLVED -- at least for me]

2009-08-23 Thread William Case

Hi;

To whom it may concern:

  If you got that from RPMfusion, it's from the
  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing repo.  
 
Yes it was.  

 I am not sure whether it came from the rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing
 repo or not.  In frustration, at one point I might have downloaded it
 from the testing repo.
 

As a warning to others and a good lesson(s) relearned:

1) in an attempt to solve another unrelated problem I enabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing repo.  I forgot to disable it
afterwards.

2) later when I went looking for a kmod-nvidia driver, the driver from
testing showed up.  Without reading carefully, and thinking it was the
latest stable driver, I installed it.  From there on everything went
wonky.

I.E. Pay attention to what you are doing!

  I haven't tried that yet, but
  the akmod-nvidia-185.18.14-1.fc11.x86_64 one is the one that worked for
  me.  
 
  If you didn't get it from RPMfusion, you might want to remove all
  traces of it from wherever it came from and start from scratch with
  akmod-nvidia.
 
 Agreed.  I will remove all RPMfusion kmod related stuff and start over.
 
I did.  It worked.

For the record:
Removed
kmod-nvidia... 18.31
kmod-nvidia...2.3...18.31

and the following dependencies:
akmod-nvidia...18.14
kmod-nvidia...2.7...18,14
kmod-nvidia...2.8...18.14
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia...18.31
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs...18.31

Installed:
kmod-nvidia... 18.14
kmod-nvidia...2.3...18.14

dependencies:
akmod-nvidia...18.14
kmod-nvidia...2.7...18,14
kmod-nvidia...2.8...18.14
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia...18.14
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs...18.14

Voilá

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Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files [SOLVED]

Hello Michael,


On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:47:54 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:23:41 +0200, wwp wrote:
 
   Let RPM verify the installed packages (use root for that):
   
 rpm -V k3b k3b-libs k3b-extras-freeworld
  
  This commands outputs nothing and returns 0.
 
 Good. That means those packages passed the verification.
 
 The long(er) verification of all installed packages would be this:
 rpm -Va 21 | tee rpm-Va.txt

rpm-Va.txt attached! :-)


 I've tried to reproduce your problem with up-to-date F10, but k3b
 imports flac and mp3 files just fine. File permission problems
 would lead to a different error message.
 
 What else could one check? For a .flac file that fails to import,
 does flac -t filename tell anything? (A similar check for mp3
 files could be done with madplay, libmad's player).

I wouldn't have bet a penny on this, since I am trying to burn an audio
CD from .flac and .mp3 files that I've already burnt few weeks ago.
Anyway I checked the .flac and .mp3 files to be sure, they report being
OK.

For the record, I tried de-installing k3b and reinstalling .rpm files
using yum (from updates and rpmfusion repos).. this did fix the
problem, I can now make audio CDs from .flac and .mp3 files again!

Funny, isn't it?

Thanks for your wise suggestions and help!, Michael.


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since prelinking
S.?./usr/bin/scanimage
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prelinking
S.?./usr/sbin/saned
missing /var/cache/vmware/VMware-Workstation-6.5.3-185404.i386.bundle
prelink: /usr/lib/libcanberra.so.0.1.3: at least one of file's dependencies has 
changed since prelinking
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SM5T/usr/lib/vmware-server-console/libconf/etc/pango/pango.modules
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has changed since prelinking
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S.5T/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
S.5T/usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
S.5T/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
S.5T/usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
S.5T/usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
S.5T/usr/share/locale/lt/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
S.5T/usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
S.5T/usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/xchat.mo
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since prelinking
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since prelinking
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since prelinking
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has changed since prelinking
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missing /var/lib/texmf/dvips
missing /var/lib/texmf/dvips/config
missing /var/lib/texmf/dvips/config/config.generic
missing /var/lib/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps
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since prelinking
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since prelinking
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since prelinking
S.?.

Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:27:53 -0700
Peter Gordon pe...@thecodergeek.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 11:59 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  That's what I was afraid of. The effect is that epiphany is not
  maintained in F10. There won't be any bug fixes.
 
 That is certainly NOT the case. Fedora 10's Epiphany package, just as
 all F-10 packages, will stop being maintained only when it hits its
 End-of-Life in December. 
 
 There's a significant difference between pushing new major upstream
 versions to fix things, and simply applying patches/fixes on an
 as-needed basis to the current version. While we can't do the former,
 as Seth explained because of necessary updates to so many other
 dependencies, we will still happily do the latter as long as F10
 continues to be officially supported.

When I filed a bug

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612

the response from the epiphany developers was

Thanks for taking the time to file this bug report. Can you reproduce
this problem with Epiphany 2.27.x with the WebKit backend?

Because the Gecko backend has been discontinued, there will be no more
bugfixes for versions 2.26 and earlier.

This plainly says  there will be no more bugfixes for version 2.26
and earlier. 

Now you say there will be bugfixes. Who am I to believe?

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Todd Zullinger

Steve Blackwell wrote:
 This plainly says  there will be no more bugfixes for version
 2.26 and earlier. 

 Now you say there will be bugfixes. Who am I to believe?

That says the upstream developers will not provide bugfixes to that
release.  It doesn't preclude the Fedora package maintainers (or
maintainers for other distros) from producing bugfixes.

(I'm not saying the maintainers will be able or willing to do so, but
the are certainly free to if they can.  In fact, anyone could float a
potential patch and speed up the process.  I'm a firm believer that as
often as possible, complaints about software deficiencies are best
received when made in unified diff format. ;)

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

Steve Blackwell wrote:
 
 When I filed a bug
 
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612
 
 the response from the epiphany developers was
 
 Thanks for taking the time to file this bug report. Can you reproduce
 this problem with Epiphany 2.27.x with the WebKit backend?
 
 Because the Gecko backend has been discontinued, there will be no more
 bugfixes for versions 2.26 and earlier.
 
 This plainly says  there will be no more bugfixes for version 2.26
 and earlier. 
 
 Now you say there will be bugfixes. Who am I to believe?
 
 Steve
 
Both. The upstream developer is not going to fix bugs in 2.26 and
earlier, but Fedora will backport bug fixes. This is not the only
package they do this for. (Red Hat does even more of this.)

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Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?

2009-08-23 Thread Mail Lists

On 08/23/2009 05:18 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
 
 
 
 Matthew Saltzman-2 wrote:


 You should be good to go at that point, at least until the kernel
 version number changes from 2.6.29 to 2.6.30.


 
 What is the significance of 2.6.30 in this regard?  Are you implying that
 the akmod-nvidia and/or kmod-nvidia won't work with 2.6.30?


  For at least akmod-nvidia-173xx the current version in rpmfusion does
not compile - nv.c references kernel structure fields which were removed
in 2.6.30. (see https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781)
leading to a compile error.

  nvidia has fixed this in the newer driver for 173xx, but rpmfusion
needs to update.

  I -believe- but cannot verify, whether the 18x/19x drivers will
compile ok with newer kernels.

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Re: How to kill Kpackagekit update notification

2009-08-23 Thread Anoop

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Timignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 22:12 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote:
 Kpackagekit persistently pops up notices, overlaying whatever is
 on-screen. Clicking the 'do not notify me' link does not do anything.
 How can I kill this?

 In Gnome, the packagekit nagger is a program started by Gnome session.
 It's in the session preferences list of programs that you can modify.

 Does KDE have something similar for programs run with a KDE session?
Its under services. You can disable it from:
System Settings-Advanced-Service Manager

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random shutdowns

2009-08-23 Thread brian


2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586

Since yesterday, my computer has been shutting down randomly. Several 
times, I had walked away from the box with nothing special running. I 
thought it might be a hardware issue, checked connections, etc.


I wanted to know if there might be something in /var/log that would give 
a hint as to the problem. While poking around in there, I had a look at 
pm-suspend.log. Strangely, I found the following:


--- snip ---
Initial commandline parameters:
Sun Aug 23 13:04:32 EDT 2009: Running hooks for suspend.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk suspend suspend: Adding quirks 
from HAL: --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-dpms-suspend --quirk-vbe-post 
--quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vga-mode-3

success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: Linux apollo 
2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 00:44:39 EDT 2009 i686 
athlon i386 GNU/Linux

Module  Size  Used by
fuse   49764  2
bridge 41496  0
stp 1944  1 bridge
llc 4788  2 bridge,stp
bnep   10888  2
sco 9356  2
l2cap  18912  3 bnep
bluetooth  44908  5 bnep,sco,l2cap
autofs422080  3
w83627hf   21624  0
hwmon_vid   2284  1 w83627hf
xt_limit1812  8
iptable_mangle  3368  0
ipt_LOG 4544  8
ipt_MASQUERADE  2364  0
nf_nat 14748  1 ipt_MASQUERADE
xt_DSCP 2740  0
nf_conntrack_irc4640  0
nf_conntrack_ftp6276  0
nf_conntrack_ipv6  11368  9
ip6t_ipv6header 1804  2
ip6t_REJECT 3160  2
ip6table_filter 3136  1
ip6_tables 10728  2 ip6t_ipv6header,ip6table_filter
ipv6  232512  32 nf_conntrack_ipv6,ip6t_REJECT
cpufreq_ondemand6052  1
powernow_k814784  0
dm_multipath   13636  0
uinput  6496  0
k8temp  3920  0
hwmon   2148  2 w83627hf,k8temp
snd_mpu401  6904  0
snd_mpu401_uart 6272  1 snd_mpu401
snd_rawmidi18776  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_intel8x0   27440  2
snd_ac97_codec 91752  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus1400  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm62092  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  17896  1 snd_pcm
snd_seq_device  5988  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_page_alloc  7572  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
ppdev   6296  0
parport_pc 22132  0
sata_sis4840  0
sis900 17884  0
mii 4008  1 sis900
ns558   4068  0
snd49084  12 
snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

parport28544  2 ppdev,parport_pc
gameport9712  2 ns558
soundcore   5404  1 snd
floppy 48052  0
pcspkr  2156  0
ata_generic 4264  0
pata_acpi   3624  0
pata_sis9288  4 sata_sis
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   1513048 738024 775024  0  52676 395404
-/+ buffers/cache: 2899441223104
Swap:  2031608  02031608
success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend: success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub suspend suspend: not applicable.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend suspend: not applicable.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend: success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd suspend suspend: success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend: not applicable.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend suspend: not applicable.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend suspend: success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend: not applicable.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit suspend suspend: success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98smart-kernel-video suspend suspend: not 
applicable.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99hd-apm-restore.hook suspend suspend: 
Advanced Power Management not supported by device sdb.

saving level 255 for device sda
success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend: 
kernel.acpi_video_flags = 0

Allocated buffer at 0x11000 (base is 0x0)
ES: 0x1100 EBX: 0x
success.
Sun Aug 23 13:04:33 EDT 2009: performing suspend
--- snip ---

Two things: Aug 23 13:04:32 corresponds to the latest shutdown. So, my 
first question is, why the heck is the box suspending? What should I 
check next?


I checked the Common F11 bugs[1] but didn't see anything similar (I 
have been seeing the random screen blanking problem since installing 11, 
though).


Has pm-utils become sentient, perhaps?

The second question is what this line means:

/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: Linux apollo 
2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586

RE: FC11 - flash plugin for Firefox

2009-08-23 Thread Markus Kesaromous

Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:25:03 -0400
From: ryan.b.ly...@gmail.com
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: FC11 - flash plugin for Firefox

If you search for 'leigh123' and 'flash-plugin' and '64 bit' and 'rpm'
on fedoraforums.org, there is a very nice RPM and yum repo for Adobe's
64-bit flash-plugin. The packager keeps it reasonably well updated,
too.

-Ryan

On 2009-08-23, John Aldrich wrote:
Coming into this discussion late, but there *is* a Beta version of Flash
for x86_64 linux here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Scroll down to the bottom and you'll find the link to the download.

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Well, I am no longer runing 64 bit kernel. Since I migrated to F11, I am using
the 32 bit kernel.

Also, I did have to resort to the Adobe version 10 flash plugin.
AFA cpu load, it seems to have the lowest load: 70% of cpu while
a video is playing. As I said in my first post, the trouble with the
Adobe flash 10 is this: if I play a video, and after it finishes, I do not
close the window. I switch to other tabs or other tasks. If I come
back and try to play any other video, or even if I try to replay
the same video, I get totally stuttetered sound and then a repetitive
echo of some unitelligible sound. Does adobe even know about this problem?

I wonder if any graphics chips will provide a flash decoder so that
all the host has to do is send the flash stream directly to the graphics
controller.

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Re: random shutdowns

2009-08-23 Thread brian


On 08/23/2009 01:53 PM, brian wrote:

2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586

Since yesterday, my computer has been shutting down randomly. Several
times, I had walked away from the box with nothing special running. I
thought it might be a hardware issue, checked connections, etc.



Just happened again. One thing I forgot to mention is that hitting the 
power button causes the fans to spin up (and, I think, the drives) but 
the monitor stays blank and there's no POST beep. I have to hold the 
button in until the box shuts down again before I can get it to boot 
properly. That seems to me to be a suspend problem.


Anyway, as this is a desktop box, I decided to remove it altogether. I 
edited /boot/grub/menu.lst, changing:


title Fedora (2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586)
root (hd0,0)
	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 ro 
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet

initrd /initrd-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586.img

to:

title Fedora (2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586)
root (hd0,0)
	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 ro 
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet acpi=no apm=off noapic nolapic

initrd /initrd-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586.img

I'll reboot and see if the problem goes away. I'd appreciate any 
comments if I'm barking up the wrong tree.


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Re: list files but not directory

2009-08-23 Thread ann kok

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:

 From: Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com
 Subject: Re: list files but not directory
 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
 fedora-list@redhat.com
 Received: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 12:26 PM
 Steven W. Orr wrote:

  Two things!

  1. Bash syntax:
  This will not work:
  function lsp() { ls $@  less }
  If you do it in one line then it would have to be
  function lsp() { ls $@  less; }

 Yes - I did forget the ; at the end of the command. Bad
 morning...

  If you say ls  less then you will only run
 the less command if the ls
  command succeeds with a 0 exit status. I know this was
 a typo but I just
  didn't want others to get confused.

 I prefer not to have less run id ls exits with an error.
 That way,
 if I run something like lsd *.html on a directory with no
 .html

Why I can't run lsd?
Do I need to install any package?

-bash: lsd: command not found

 files in it, I do not have to type the q to exit less.

  *NEVER* use $@ without using double quotes. It is very
 bad luck and failure to
  follow this advise will cause you to send 200 copies
 of stupid jokes to all
  the people you know with aol addresses. And worse, you
 will end up knowing
  more aol people.

 Oops - definitely a good point!

  What's the difference between an alias and a function?
 Simple: If you need to
  pass arguments then use a function. I mention this
 because it's another of
  those basic sources of confusion.

 I nice explanation.

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Re: Spell checking in vim

2009-08-23 Thread Christoph Höger

Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 09:30 +0200 schrieb Marco Guazzone:
 On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 [cut text]
 
  I am missing something. If you get the file how do you get vim to
  correct the misspelled words?
 
 
 Once you have the dictionary file in $HOME/.vim/spell (in this case
 the file is de.utf-8.spl) you can spell check inside ViM by issueing
 the command:
 
 :setlocal spell spelllang=de

Did you test that with fedora 11 and vim 7.2? On my machine vim says
 the file would not look like a language file.


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Re: list files but not directory

2009-08-23 Thread ann kok


  
  ]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name '.*'
  or,
  ]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -regex '^.*/\..*'
  or,
  ]$ ls -hl | grep ^-
  

This works fine 
but there is ./file as result
How can remove ./ in the command also?

 










  And I am sure there are a dozen seperate perl
 solutions out there!
  
 Any of those would make a good function with a name that is
 easy to
 remember so you don't have to remember the complicated
 command.
 
  And on and on.  Count the learning curves and
 side issues involved for
  someone who just wants to see some text file that they
 wrote and saved
  and that has seemed to 'disappear'.  That kind of
 thing happens at the
  start all the time.
  
  Let me tell you about unnecessary learning
 curves.  About 5 years ago,
  when I installed Linux for the first time, I
 tentatively began to
  explore the Gnome desktop and menu.
 
 God, I have been at this longer then I thought. My use of
 Linux
 predates the Gnome desktop...
 
  I saw Vi(m) -- a text editor.
  Thinking of M$ NotePad, I opened Vim in order to make
 my first notes to
  myself about this new operating system.  I
 couldn't write a word (I
  didn't know about insert mode) and, determined not to
 solve problems by
  just rebooting, it took me 4 -- let me repeat -- four
 hours to get out
  of Vim. (Who would of thunk of escaping to normal mode
 and inputing a
  ':' to get to a command line.)
  
 Yes, you should never try to use vi for the first time
 without a
 cheat sheet! For that matter, I normally set EDITOR so I
 get the
 editor of my choice by default instead of vi. (Another
 thing new
 users do not know about...)
 
  Most new users have already spent a considerable
 amount of time trying
  to do the simplest thing before posting on users help
 list for the first
  time out of fear of looking really really
 stupid.  Suggesting stuff like
  ]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name '.*' or 
 'ls -hl | grep ^-'
  just leaves their brains reeling. Particularly when
 they are in the
  midst of trying to figure out how 10 to 20 other
 things work.
  
 Yes, it would be better to give an explanation along with
 the
 command. Some people do this better, and more consistently
 then others.
 
 Mikkel
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RE: Custom installation of Fedora

2009-08-23 Thread Joseph L. Casale

The live spins already do everything installs, as they copy over the file
system rather than doing package based installation. Maybe that is a solution
the original poster could use.

Really, a 700mb CD has everything installed in it, so when it copies the fs 
over,
everything is installed?

I would guess Tim's response is as good as it gets. Maybe if someone had a valid
reason for installing everything that would end the debate:) Versus just 
asking
for it since it cannot be done (But I guess I don't know if that's the real 
reason:)?

jlc

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Re: Spell checking in vim

2009-08-23 Thread Marco Guazzone

2009/8/23 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de:
 Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 09:30 +0200 schrieb Marco Guazzone:
 On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Aaron Konstamakons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 [cut text]

  I am missing something. If you get the file how do you get vim to
  correct the misspelled words?
 

 Once you have the dictionary file in $HOME/.vim/spell (in this case
 the file is de.utf-8.spl) you can spell check inside ViM by issueing
 the command:

 :setlocal spell spelllang=de

 Did you test that with fedora 11 and vim 7.2? On my machine vim says
  the file would not look like a language file.


Hmmm... Sorry I've only tested the download of the file.
Actually it seems you're right ... ViM complains about the file me too

I've tried to download it manually from:

http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/runtime/spell/

but I get the same error.

Then I dig into the ViM repo and I've found this:

http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/runtime/spell/de.utf-8.spl
http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/runtime/spell/de.utf-8.sug

Note: the sug file is not important but should improve spelling
(don't know how)

I've downloaded those files and saved into $HOME/.vim/spell
Then I've tried
:setlocal spell spelllang=de
and now it seems to work

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Legalized music WMA

2009-08-23 Thread cibertazzi2001


Hello everybody. 
I bought some songs on a site, and they must be played before being
legalized, as I do this on Linux for legalized and allow me to tap WMA? 
regards 
Caio 


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Re: list files but not directory

2009-08-23 Thread William Case

Hi Ann;

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 12:07 -0700, ann kok wrote:
   
   ]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name '.*'
   or,
   ]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -regex '^.*/\..*'
   or,
   ]$ ls -hl | grep ^-
   
 
 This works fine 
 but there is ./file as result
 How can remove ./ in the command also?
 

The './' is the name of the current directory where the files are
located.  If you prefer not to see it, use:

]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name '.*' -exec basename {} \;
]$ find . -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -regex '^.*/\..*' -exec basename {} \;

exactly as written here.

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Re: Spell checking in vim

2009-08-23 Thread Christoph Höger

 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/runtime/spell/de.utf-8.spl
 http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/runtime/spell/de.utf-8.sug
 
 Note: the sug file is not important but should improve spelling
 (don't know how)
 
 I've downloaded those files and saved into $HOME/.vim/spell
 Then I've tried
 :setlocal spell spelllang=de
 and now it seems to work
 
 -- Marco

Ah, thanks alot, that was what I needed!



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Re: list files but not directory

2009-08-23 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 21Aug2009 05:17, ann kok oiyan...@yahoo.ca wrote:
| ls -1 but I only want the file to list not directory

Please don't top-post. PLease BELOW and TRIM the quoted material for
context, as I have done.

Have you tried:

  ls -l | grep '^-'

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Re: list files but not directory

2009-08-23 Thread Sharpe, Sam J

2009/8/23 Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au:
 On 21Aug2009 05:17, ann kok oiyan...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 | ls -1 but I only want the file to list not directory

 Please don't top-post. PLease BELOW and TRIM the quoted material for
 context, as I have done.

 Have you tried:

  ls -l | grep '^-'

I don't understand why this thread has been going on so long. I also
can't understand how the OP couldn't solve this with a quick {insert
web search engine of your choice} query.

alias lsf='find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -ls'
alias lsd='find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -ls'

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Package Manager/Yum: Is there an exclusion list?

2009-08-23 Thread Daniel B. Thurman



Is there a Package Manager/Yum exclusion
list where I can prevent PM/Y from updating
certain packages?


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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?