Resignation of Josh Boyer from FESCo
It is with great regret that I announce the resignation of Josh Boyer from the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo). Josh has been an incredibly valuable member of FESCo during the time that he has served. It's important to note that the reason for this resignation is that Josh believes that community leaders should be actively leading in the community. With his other commitments, Josh simply could not make the time for both FESCo and maintaining a leadership role within the community. This is not the fault of Josh, FESCo in general, or any member of FESCo in particular. Instead, it represents that Josh is upholding the values that we hold dear in Fedora - openness, honesty, transparency, and meritocracy. Josh will be focusing on the QA of updates to stable Fedora releases, where he will need all the help that he can get. Please reach out to Josh and offer whatever help you can provide him in this effort. Replacing Josh on FESCo, per the succession policy[1], will be David Woodhouse, as he was the next highest runner-up in the recent elections[2]. Please join me in wishing Josh the best, and welcoming David back to FESCo. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00015.html -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Packaging tips for sound?
I am wondering if there is any documentation on tips for packagers for helping them integrate sound features of their packages in Fedora. In my specific case the volume controls on glest are not affecting the volume in F12 and I am wondering where to start looking for infomation that may be relevant for fixing this. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Freitag, den 09.10.2009, 18:56 -0400 schrieb Neal Becker: Just received: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528237 yum install libotf-devel.i586 libotf-devel.x86_64 yields: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/bin/libotf-config from install of libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.x86_64 file /usr/share/doc/libotf-devel-0.9.8/example/Makefile from install of libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.x86_64 What is the recommended way to resolve this? If the contents of the file is the same and they only their timestamps differ, you can touch them reversely after install as in http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/exo/devel/exo.spec?r1=1.38r2=1.39 Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. Content (and permission) differences do. - Panu - -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
On 10/10/2009 01:48 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Freitag, den 09.10.2009, 18:56 -0400 schrieb Neal Becker: What if the generated docbook documents are different due to different ids? Do we need to separate the docs into a noarch subpackage? Nope, this doesn't actually help. The actual fix would be to fix docbook[1] rsp. these docbook-documents' sources to not apply ids rsp. to produce deterministic ids. An alternative work-around would be to filter out/process (e.g. by using sed) these ids, such the generated docs can be generated deterministically. Last resort would be to move such docs into arch' dependent directories in arch-dependent packages. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20091010 changes
Compose started at Sat Oct 10 06:15:04 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- konversation-1.2-1.fc12.i686 requires kdelibs4 = 0:4.3.2 sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json Broken deps for x86_64 -- konversation-1.2-1.fc12.x86_64 requires kdelibs4 = 0:4.3.2 sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json Broken deps for ppc -- konversation-1.2-1.fc12.ppc requires kdelibs4 = 0:4.3.2 sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json Broken deps for ppc64 -- konversation-1.2-1.fc12.ppc64 requires kdelibs4 = 0:4.3.2 python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json Removed package gai Removed package gai-pal Removed package gai-temp Removed package python-json Updated Packages: NetworkManager-0.7.996-4.git20091002.fc12 - * Fri Oct 02 2009 Dan Williams d...@redhat.com - 0.7.996-4.git20091002 - install: fix -gnome package %pre script failures (rh #526519) - nm: fix failures validating private keys when using the NSS crypto backend - applet: fix crashes when clicking on menu but not associated (rh #526535) - editor: fix crash editing wired 802.1x settings - editor: fix secrets retrieval when editing connections Terminal-0.4.2-2.fc12 - * Thu Oct 08 2009 Christoph Wickert cwick...@fedoraproject.org - 0.4.2-2 - Fix locale problems in the UI (bugzilla.xfce.org #5842) chromium-bsu-0.9.14-6.fc12 -- * Fri Oct 09 2009 Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com 0.9.14-6 - Switch to quesoglc instead of ftgl (glc is the upstream default) - This fixes chromium-bsu not finding its font, as quesoglc properly uses fontconfig instead of using a hardcoded path to the font (#526995) dopewars-1.5.12-9.1033svn.fc12 -- * Fri Oct 09 2009 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org - 1.5.12-8.1033svn - Update to svn release to address security issues. * Fri Oct 09 2009 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org - 1.5.12-9.1033svn - Increment release to be able to tag in F-12. dracut-002-13.4.git8f397a9b.fc12 * Fri Oct 09 2009 Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com 002-13.2 - do not fail, if libdmraid-events-isw.so is not present * Fri Oct 09 2009 Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com 002-13.3 - removed one wildcard of libdmraid-events-isw.so install * Fri Oct 09 2009 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com - 002-13.4 - Requires(pre) on plymouth to ensure plymouth is installed before kernel drupal-service_links-6.x.1.0-5.fc12 --- * Fri Oct 09 2009 Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net - 6.x.1.0-5 - Patch for CVE-2009-3648 from madirish.net, BZ 528200, 528201. gcc-4.4.1-20.fc12 - * Thu Oct 08 2009 Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com 4.4.1-20 - update from gcc-4_4-branch - PRs c++/39863, c++/41038 - avoid redundant DW_AT_const_value when abstract origin already has one (#527430) - another VTA debug stmt renaming bugfix (#521991) * Mon Oct 05 2009 Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com 4.4.1-19 - update from gcc-4_4-branch - PRs fortran/41479, fortran/41515 - VTA backports - PRs debug/41353, debug/41404, rtl-optimization/41511 - another debug info fix for decls passed by reference (#527057, PR debug/41558) - don't emit DW_AT_name on DW_TAG_const_type (#526970) - avoid invalid folding of casts to addresses of first fields (#527121, PR middle-end/41317) * Thu Oct 01 2009 Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com 4.4.1-18 - update from gcc-4_4-branch - PRs ada/41100, target/22093 - VTA backports - PRs debug/41438, debug/41474, target/41279, testsuite/41444 - fix VTA ICE on Linux kernel (#521991) - AMD Orochi -mfma4 support - don't run install-info if info files are missing because of --excludedocs (#515921, #515960, #515962, #515965, #516000, #516008, #516014) gdm-2.28.0-9.fc12 - * Fri Oct 09 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 1:2.28.0-8 - Move bubbles to the lower right on the login screen * Fri Oct 09 2009 Ray Strode rstr...@redhat.com 2.28.0-9 - Fix Other... user. * Wed Oct 07 2009 Ray Strode rstr...@redhat.com - 1:2.28.0-7 - Fix gdm-password / xguest interaction (bug 524421) gtk2-2.18.2-2.fc12 -- * Fri Oct 09 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 2.18.2-2 - Make selecting the final char work again (#528072) konversation-1.2-1.fc12 --- * Fri Oct 09 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.2-1 - konversation-1.2 (final) libcap-ng-0.6.2-3.fc12 -- * Fri Oct 09 2009 Steve Grubb sgr...@redhat.com 0.6.2-3 - Apply patch to retain setpcap only if clearing bounding set
cups/guttenprint color schemes wrong for Epson Stylus CX3500 and other printers
Maybe off topic but, how to correct color schemes for Epson Printers? Default is horrible (excess of red, wrong gamma/brightness, etc). I guess someone must have dealt with that. Best regards CdAB signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 22:25 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 16:41 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: It's not to be considered a bug, AFAIK. We don't stipulate that development packages be installable side-by-side in this way, we only stipulate that for library packages where there's a need for it. There's no particular use case where you absolutely need both -devel packages installed at once. I believe this is incorrect. devel packages are supposed to be multilib installable. There's two things that are two files that conflict above and there's two different fixes for each. I'm happy to be wrong :), but is this documented anywhere? That's why I thought the opposite was the case, I couldn't find anything to this effect in the packaging documentation when I was starting out. Well, I know it is documented that file conflicts are never allowed, ever, at all w/o an explicit conflicts: in the spec file. Ah, yeah. That would cover it without any need for a specific multilib policy, for sure. (I checked, and libotf-devel i686 is in the x86-64 repo). Of course, that turns the larger question into 'why do we put i686 -devel packages in the x86-64 repo, not just the lib packages', but it does explain for sure that I was wrong in my initial reply, sorry for that! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:57:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: It would be nice to have more comprehensive 3D tests. I think it's worth packaging the piglit OopenGL test suite: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/piglit and using it in graphics test days. According tho this blog post by Eric Anholt and the git commit log, upstream open source graphics driver developers are still constantly adding tests to it: http://anholt.livejournal.com/41522.html -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 15:02 +, Scott Tsai wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:57:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: It would be nice to have more comprehensive 3D tests. I think it's worth packaging the piglit OopenGL test suite: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/piglit and using it in graphics test days. According tho this blog post by Eric Anholt and the git commit log, upstream open source graphics driver developers are still constantly adding tests to it: http://anholt.livejournal.com/41522.html Good point. I think Francois Cami had some plans to this effect, but he's been away from the project for a few months lately, so maybe I'll do it instead. Thanks for the reminder. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
Am Samstag, den 10.10.2009, 11:30 +0300 schrieb Panu Matilainen: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote: If the contents of the file is the same and they only their timestamps differ, you can touch them reversely after install as in http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/exo/devel/exo.spec?r1=1.38r2=1.39 Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. Indeed, obviously this has changed. Changes like this should be announced somewhere, I guess Kevin and me are not the only one packagers who still believe they have to care for timestamps. Content (and permission) differences do. I took a look at the files from exo and they did differ. Tanks for the pointer. - Panu - Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:21:37PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. Indeed, obviously this has changed. Changes like this should be announced somewhere, I guess Kevin and me are not the only one packagers who still believe they have to care for timestamps. I am not sure that timestamps created conflicts in the past. However in rpm -V there were marked as being modified. Maybe this is what changed. In any case I think that we should care for timestamps even if they are not reasons for conflicts. Some packagers disagree, though, that timestamps are useful and should be correct. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 18:05 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:47:59 -0700, Adam wrote: Of course, that turns the larger question into 'why do we put i686 -devel packages in the x86-64 repo, not just the lib packages', Because not all files in -devel packages cover multiple target platforms. Example: You could not build for i686 with headers that are specific to x86_64, and you would also need the .so symlinks for libraries in the appropriate libdir. Well, that's only valid if we actually do anything to ensure multilib compilation actually *works*, right now all we enforce is that the packages don't conflict (which isn't the same thing at all). I hope I'm not dragging him into the conversation unwillingly, but Colin Walters raised those points on IRC: walters well, what's the ultimate goal? just avoiding the OS exploding if you happen to somehow get an i386 -devel? or actually be able to compile 32 bit on 64 hosts? walters those are pretty different things ... walters people keep trying to scope creep multilib to include compilation, which we need to clamp down on, and tell them to use mock Oxf13 well last time we tried to make major changes to our multilib strategy, Jeremy was the one to play Captain No and he's gone now, so I guess the point is that if we actually intend to support 'you can cross-compile with any -devel package from another arch that's included in the repository' we may need more strict policies / work to ensure that's actually possible, and if we intend *not* to support that, but rather tell people to use mock, there's no reason to include -devel packages in multilib. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 10:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I guess the point is that if we actually intend to support 'you can cross-compile with any -devel package from another arch that's included gah, I know I don't really mean cross-compile, it's been pointed out to me before that it's the wrong term. you know what I mean. sorry. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
Michael Schwendt wrote, at 10/11/2009 01:09 AM +9:00: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:32:40 +0200, Patrice wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:21:37PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. Indeed, obviously this has changed. Changes like this should be announced somewhere, What is the source of these rumours that file timestamp differences would cause conflicts? I guess these rumors came because sometimes some programs creating document files (mostly html files) or so embeded the timestamp of the date in those files and that actually caused multilib conflict (i.e. not the timestamp of the files but the embedded strings in those files). Regards, Mamoru -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Maintainer MIA: Claudio Tomasoni
Am Samstag, den 10.10.2009, 21:41 +0200 schrieb Chitlesh GOORAH: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: I am starting the AWOL procedure [1] for Claudio Tomasoni, because he didn't respond to a bug I opened 5 months ago [2]. Chitlesh even tried to contact him for more than 7 months [3]. We should prepare for taking over Claudio's packages [4]. I'm willing to take over : https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/octaviz https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/qtoctave Great, but there are still two weeks left. Chitlesh Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Development packages for Thunderbird/Sunbird
Original Message Subject: Development packages for Thunderbird/Sunbird From: Henrik /KaarPoSoft hen...@kaarposoft.dk To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com Date: 09.10.2009 18:20 I would like blueZync to work on Fedora too (currently developing on Debian and Ubuntu). Me too. I did start a packaging effort some time ago and caused a little disaster by updating libsyncml to a newer version to build blueZync. Our problem was that nothing else could be built against the new version of libsyncml. As far as I can see, not such -devel packages are available for Fedora 11 or 12. That is correct. Can anybody guide me as to how to kindly request such packages for Fedora? The best would be to file a bug against both thunderbird and sunbird and kindly state what you would need for building blueZync. If you as the developer did that, that would be great. As soon as the development files are available I'd be glad working with you on getting blueZync into Fedora. Felix -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
libprojectM Packaging Problem
I'm having trouble getting the new version of libprojectM packaged, and hope someone can shed some light on this for me. When I enter the commands to build it manually, it builds fine, but when trying to package it, it comes out with commands like: cd /home/ipfreely/rpmbuild/BUILD/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295/Renderer /usr/lib64/ccache/c++ -DUSE_FBO -DLINUX -DSTBI_NO_DDS -DUSE_THREADS -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic ;-fPIC -I/home/ipfreely/rpmbuild/BUILD/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=\/usr\ -o CMakeFiles/Renderer.dir/FBO.o -c /home/ipfreely/rpmbuild/BUILD/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295/Renderer/FBO.cpp Which fail due to ;-fPIC. Any ideas on why this is happening? It looks to me that it's a simple matter of getting rid of the ; in the command, but I have no idea why it's there using rpmbuild, but not when I build manually. Thanks, =-Jameson -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Development packages for Thunderbird/Sunbird
Henrik /KaarPoSoft, Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:20:44 +0200: However, to compile blueZync, development packages for thunderbird and sunbird are needed (i.e. header files, idl files etc). As far as I can see, not such -devel packages are available for Fedora 11 or 12. When you install xulrunner*devel what files you are missing? Matěj -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:17:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, that's only valid if we actually do anything to ensure multilib compilation actually *works*, right now all we enforce is that the packages don't conflict (which isn't the same thing at all). It's also valid if we want to help people to be able to have multilib compilation work, even if it is not used in fedora rpm builds. I have no knowledge about this issue, but I guess that having multilib devel packages installed allows users comppiling software to easily use one or the other library, even if it involves setting some flags by hand, and, hopefully, with pkg-config setting flags by hand is not required. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
thunderbird upgrade - wtf?
Just upgraded my F11 workstation, which included an upgrade to thunderbird-3.0-2.7.b4.fc11.x86_64 Without any prompting or warning, my email layout -- a key interface into my open source development workflow -- was changed to use something called smart folders. Also annoying, though of less impact to me personally, was the decision (again, without prompting or warning) to index all of my email -- of which there is a considerable amount. Now, I'm sure smart folders are a nifty new feature, but where was the warning about this upgrade? Why was this done late in F11, rather than F12? IMO, major MUA upgrades should be handled better than this. Jeff -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Issue 64671] Verdana font messes up letter spacing in Impress
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=64671 User cmc changed the following: What|Old value |New value Attachment is patch| |Created an attachment (id= | |65286) update patch to app | |ly against DEV300_m61 --- Additional comments from c...@openoffice.org Sat Oct 10 14:35:13 + 2009 --- Created an attachment (id=65286) update patch to apply against DEV300_m61 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 528272] Review Request: adf-tribun-fonts - A newsprint-like serif typeface
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528272 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fedora-fonts-bugs-l...@redh ||at.com --- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-10-10 10:40:31 EDT --- SRPM URL: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1739554 Description: Hirwen Harendal started in 1999 the realization of a first font family, aiming to create another “Times New Roman”… He does not consider this endeavour a huge success. However, he transformed Tribun progessively since then to give it its own character. The idea was to achieve newsprint-like rendering. To this effect, the glyph bodies, serifs, or even extenders are not normalised and use irregular strokes. This is most visible in italics though those variations stay imperceptible at small sizes. Italics proved time-consuming. They are never an easy thing to draw. Nevertheless, the designer considers them very close to those of “Times”, with some variations. The medium weight uses a stronger stroke. It can be used for emphasis, or for effects in titles. That being said it has also been used for body copy. It is also slightly expanded to complete the face offerings. The condensed version is a bit unusual, since it stands in for both normal and medium condensed. After several trials, Hirwen decided an intermediate weight rendered much better both for document display and in print. Secondly, he took great care to keep readability excellent, and this even for italics. This font family is particularly well suited for text, display, or presentations. It is also ideal for all Web publications. It can serve as alternative to “Times New Roman” and other similar fonts. See also http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ADF_Tribun_fonts -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: Firefox will not start from desktop
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Anthony Houston anthony.hous...@athouston.com.au wrote: I am running Fedora 11; clean new install on new hard drive. Name : firefox Arch : i586 Version : 3.5.3 Release : 1.fc11 Firefox will not start from the desktop icon but will start from the CLI but only as su. Even then I get the following errors: (firefox:2295): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported. Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) I tried to follow the gnome url listed in the error but could not find some of the references on my computer. I have performed the following to make sure my system is uptodate: su yum update --enablerepo=rpm*g --enablerepo=u*g --skip-broken -v reboot There are MANY threads on FedorumForum about this with all the same suggestions. I logged this as a bug with Mozilla but they say it isn't and that I need to go back to the packager (fedora). Any suggestions please. Check permissions for the user. Do ls -la /home/user_name. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox will not start from desktop
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Kam Leo kam@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Anthony Houston anthony.hous...@athouston.com.au wrote: I am running Fedora 11; clean new install on new hard drive. Name : firefox Arch : i586 Version : 3.5.3 Release : 1.fc11 Firefox will not start from the desktop icon but will start from the CLI but only as su. Even then I get the following errors: (firefox:2295): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported. Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) I tried to follow the gnome url listed in the error but could not find some of the references on my computer. I have performed the following to make sure my system is uptodate: su yum update --enablerepo=rpm*g --enablerepo=u*g --skip-broken -v reboot There are MANY threads on FedorumForum about this with all the same suggestions. I logged this as a bug with Mozilla but they say it isn't and that I need to go back to the packager (fedora). Any suggestions please. Check permissions for the user. Do ls -la /home/user_name. I forgot to ask if you tried deleting the .mozilla directory in /home or reinstalliing firefox. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: black screen and message cannot display this mode 2:dvi-d during F11 install
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:08:50 -0500, clarice oshea clariceos...@gmail.com wrote: I read that one should install F10 before F11 so I did install F10! If you are doing upgrades that is necessary in at least some cases unless you want a lot of pain. (I actually went from F9 to F11 to F12 using yum and rpm, but it was not very clean.) A fresh install of F11 (or even F12) after trying out a livecd possibly would have been a better approach. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB wireless broadband modem from Vodafone on F11 HOW TO CONNECT?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:27 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, my modem is E620 too. after activated, i was give account number 4000x MSISDN 0451xx alike mobile number pin xx which of these is phone, password and username in wvdial,conf thanks for your help fater put this phone = *99# username = 0451xx password= in the wvdial.conf I get this messege YATZ OK -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 OK -- Modem initialized. -- Cannot get information for serial port. -- Initializing modem. -- Sending: ATZ ATZ OK -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 OK -- Modem initialized. -- Sending: ATDT*99# -- Waiting for carrier. ATDT*99# CONNECT -- Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. -- Starting pppd at Fri Oct 9 00:52:53 2009 -- Pid of pppd: 6947 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- Using interface ppp0 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- Authentication (CHAP) started -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- Authentication (CHAP) started -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- Authentication (CHAP) successful -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- pppd: H[1b] `[19] -- Disconnecting at Fri Oct 9 00:52:58 2009 -- The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16) -- man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. -- Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the wvdial and pppd man pages for more information. -- Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 20 seconds -- Cannot get information for serial port. -- Initializing modem. -- Sending: ATZ ATZ OK -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 OK Does it not connect at all. Error 16 means modem hang-up. It happened to me once, but, I could connect after wvdial redialed. Regards, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: libvirtd and public access to guests
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Pavel Lisy p...@tmapy.cz wrote: Hello I've started playing with libvirt and I have question? What is proper way to make guest accessible from net. I have mode=nat /var/lib/libvirt/network/default.xml. libvirtd makes this rules in FORWARD chain -A FORWARD -d 192.168.231.0/24 -o virbr0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -s 192.168.231.0/24 -i virbr0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -o virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited If I add iptables -I FORWARD -i eth0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT guests are accessible My question is: Is is possible write this somewhere to configuration? I've tried to put it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables but it libvirtd put his rules before mine. I've found two directories /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/filter /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/nat I was hoping someone with more experience would help you on this issue. It is better to write your own rules than messing with these files (/var/lib/libvirt). The default network mode of libvirt is a private network behind NAT. The guests are provided an IP address via DHCP. If you want a guest to be accessible from the Internet then you will have to configure static IP in your guest, ensure that you give an IP in the 192.168.231.0/24 range. Then you will have to set up DNAT iptable rules. AFAIK, to prevent libvirt from overriding your rules, you should be using -I (INSERT) instead of -A (APPEND). Put your rules in the file /etc/sysconfig/iptables This is the theory. I *do not* use libvirt. I use VDE for my networking with command line KVM. HTH, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox will not start from desktop
Anthony Houston wrote: Firefox will not start from the desktop icon but will start from the CLI but only as su. is '/usr/bin' in your 'env PATH'? check for file '~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock'. if present, delete it, try to start as user. not sure if 'error console' logs individually between users, so when you start firefox from cli as su, check 'tools error console' or ctrl+shift+j, to see what is logged. if you see too many to comprehend, clear them, close firefox as su, try to start as user, then reopen as su and check 'error console' again. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: libvirtd and public access to guests
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Didar Hossain didar.hoss...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Pavel Lisy p...@tmapy.cz wrote: Hello I've started playing with libvirt and I have question? What is proper way to make guest accessible from net. I have mode=nat /var/lib/libvirt/network/default.xml. libvirtd makes this rules in FORWARD chain -A FORWARD -d 192.168.231.0/24 -o virbr0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -s 192.168.231.0/24 -i virbr0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -o virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited If I add iptables -I FORWARD -i eth0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT guests are accessible My question is: Is is possible write this somewhere to configuration? I've tried to put it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables but it libvirtd put his rules before mine. I've found two directories /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/filter /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/nat I was hoping someone with more experience would help you on this issue. It is better to write your own rules than messing with these files (/var/lib/libvirt). The default network mode of libvirt is a private network behind NAT. The guests are provided an IP address via DHCP. If you want a guest to be accessible from the Internet then you will have to configure static IP in your guest, ensure that you give an IP in the 192.168.231.0/24 range. Then you will have to set up DNAT iptable rules. AFAIK, to prevent libvirt from overriding your rules, you should be using -I (INSERT) instead of -A (APPEND). Put your rules in the file /etc/sysconfig/iptables This is the theory. I *do not* use libvirt. I use VDE for my networking with command line KVM. HTH, Didar Forgot to add - you have to INSERT the rules in reverse order so that the correct sequence of rules are put in place. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
keeping the old public key (id_rsa.pub) when upgrading Fedora
Hello, I have several fedora machines which I upgrade/reinstall, from time to time. I do this by reinstalling Fedora (I know that there is an upgrade option for Fedora but I prefer to reinstall). When doing so, the /root/.ssh folder is of course deleted. Now, on some of these machine, I have a public key which is installed on several servers to enable me ssh access to these machines without typing the password. The public key is generated thus: ssh-keygen -t rsa And it generates 2 files: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub And I paste the contents of id_rsa.pub to the server /root./ssh/authorized_keys (or /root./ssh/authorized_keys2). Any idea if there is a way to keep the id_rsa.pub when reinstalling Fedora ? (If I try ssh-keygen -t rsa after reinstall, I am unable to ssh to these servers.) Regards, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: keeping the old public key (id_rsa.pub) when upgrading Fedora
At 11:52 on 10 Oct 2009, Mark Ryden wrote: Hello, I have several fedora machines which I upgrade/reinstall, from time to time. I do this by reinstalling Fedora (I know that there is an upgrade option for Fedora but I prefer to reinstall). When doing so, the /root/.ssh folder is of course deleted. Now, on some of these machine, I have a public key which is installed on several servers to enable me ssh access to these machines without typing the password. The public key is generated thus: ssh-keygen -t rsa And it generates 2 files: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub And I paste the contents of id_rsa.pub to the server /root./ssh/authorized_keys (or /root./ssh/authorized_keys2). Any idea if there is a way to keep the id_rsa.pub when reinstalling Fedora ? How about backing it up? -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
Hi, current rawhide and Empathy client show great promise as it adds audio and video conference options. But one thing that Fedora users are used to have, IRC chat, seams like it is not supported and not working in current version of Empathy. Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
2009/10/10 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com Hi, current rawhide and Empathy client show great promise as it adds audio and video conference options. But one thing that Fedora users are used to have, IRC chat, seams like it is not supported and not working in current version of Empathy. Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Hi, IRC support for Empathy is provided by the telepathy-idle package. Do you have it installed? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:45:36 +0200, Pikachu_2014 wrote: IRC support for Empathy is provided by the telepathy-idle package. Do you have it installed? Yup, I installed it, and I see no difference. BTW why isn't it installed by default as a dependency? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Test GIMP 2.7/2.8 ?
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:34:25 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: I there a way to test new GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora? I looked in Rawhide repos and I still see only 2.6x versions there. Any plans to put 2.7 in Rawhide repost for testing purposes? Should I ask on development channel? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
I'd like to be asked during installation if I want to use Gnome or KDE or some other environment. Am I alone in this? One has to go through a slightly tortuous path to get KDE installed. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
2009/10/10 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: I'd like to be asked during installation if I want to use Gnome or KDE or some other environment. Am I alone in this? One has to go through a slightly tortuous path to get KDE installed. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Take a look at this: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/sn-package-selection.html It's from the f11 installation guide (section software selection). Just click on desktop environments and choose KDE or GNOME. It's simple enough. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
Joshua C. wrote: I'd like to be asked during installation if I want to use Gnome or KDE or some other environment. Am I alone in this? One has to go through a slightly tortuous path to get KDE installed. Take a look at this: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/sn-package- selection.html It's from the f11 installation guide (section software selection). Just click on desktop environments and choose KDE or GNOME. It's simple enough. How many people installing Fedora for the first - or even the second - time would choose to Customize now? It is like saying, If you think you are cleverer than me, press this button. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:37:28 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: If you think you are cleverer than me, press this button. Good point. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
2009/10/10 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:37:28 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: If you think you are cleverer than me, press this button. Good point. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I understand your frustration but I cannot agree with you. The installation process guides you through some basic points (like grub, partitioning, basic packages). Most distributions nowadays ship with both kde and gnome. By default fedora installs gnome and I think every user who wants to try it should know this. It's not about being clever or not. The PackageKit then gives you the ability to install and set kde. Even typing set kde as default in fedora during installation in google will give you tons of examples how to do it. And the installation guide is really well written. The only problem is how many people ever read it? Basic productivity means just this: basic: the ability to use your hardware for doing simple computer tasks. If you want something more then you should at least try to find some information about it. You want to customize fedora with your preference for kde. Therefore it's natural for me to click on customize now because it differs from the default options. This option isn't hidden and it doesn't make the installer clever than you. How would you react if instead of customize now the button read choose default environment and extra packages? Would that change anything during the installation? Think about how many people would like to customize thier installation with options ranging from setting default environment to options for sound card, etc. There is no way to satisfy all those wishes. Anakonda really gives you enough tools to customze your system but you have to learn how to use this installer. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: keeping the old public key (id_rsa.pub) when upgrading Fedora
Hi, backup the files or make a update! cu Joe On 10/10/2009 12:00 PM, Mark Knoop wrote: At 11:52 on 10 Oct 2009, Mark Ryden wrote: Hello, I have several fedora machines which I upgrade/reinstall, from time to time. I do this by reinstalling Fedora (I know that there is an upgrade option for Fedora but I prefer to reinstall). When doing so, the /root/.ssh folder is of course deleted. Now, on some of these machine, I have a public key which is installed on several servers to enable me ssh access to these machines without typing the password. The public key is generated thus: ssh-keygen -t rsa And it generates 2 files: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub And I paste the contents of id_rsa.pub to the server /root./ssh/authorized_keys (or /root./ssh/authorized_keys2). Any idea if there is a way to keep the id_rsa.pub when reinstalling Fedora ? How about backing it up? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
Timothy Murphy wrote: How many people installing Fedora for the first - or even the second - time would choose to Customize now? It is like saying, If you think you are cleverer than me, press this button. Actually, I wonder how many people installing any linux distribution for the first time knows enough to ask the questions: What is KDE? What is Gnome? And, if they don't know that...maybe they should be reading about it before they install? Or, maybe they just install thinking there is only GUI...without of course knowing what a GUI is. -- But you're suffering! --Ralph Wiggum Lisa the Simpson (Episode 4F24) Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
Joshua C. wrote: The installation process guides you through some basic points (like grub, partitioning, basic packages). While I am at it, I think the partitioning options are badly put, too. The first option should be to use the current partitions, in my view. The second should be to set up partitions as one wants. I suspect that most people who have installed Fedora before know that it is best to avoid the crazy system suggested by Anaconda. Most distributions nowadays ship with both kde and gnome. By default fedora installs gnome and I think every user who wants to try it should know this. It's not about being clever or not. The PackageKit then gives you the ability to install and set kde. I'm not sure what this means. It is more or less impossible to replace Gnome by KDE after installation, in my experience. I'm afraid that I suspect a political or philosophical motive at work here. Redhat/Anaconda have a sort of vestigial loyalty to Gnome, and don't want the alternative to be too visible. It's a bit like asking a Ford dealer to admit he sells more Toyotas. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
On 10/10/2009 04:20 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:45:36 +0200, Pikachu_2014 wrote: IRC support for Empathy is provided by the telepathy-idle package. Do you have it installed? Yup, I installed it, and I see no difference. BTW why isn't it installed by default as a dependency? It is not a dependency. It is a optional plugin. If the question about IRC support is directed at developers, fedora-desktop list might be a better place to ask. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: libvirtd and public access to guests
Didar Hossain wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Pavel Lisy p...@tmapy.cz wrote: Hello I've started playing with libvirt and I have question? What is proper way to make guest accessible from net. I have mode=nat /var/lib/libvirt/network/default.xml. libvirtd makes this rules in FORWARD chain -A FORWARD -d 192.168.231.0/24 -o virbr0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -s 192.168.231.0/24 -i virbr0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -o virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited If I add iptables -I FORWARD -i eth0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT guests are accessible My question is: Is is possible write this somewhere to configuration? I've tried to put it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables but it libvirtd put his rules before mine. I've found two directories /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/filter /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/nat I was hoping someone with more experience would help you on this issue. It is better to write your own rules than messing with these files (/var/lib/libvirt). The default network mode of libvirt is a private network behind NAT. The guests are provided an IP address via DHCP. If you want a guest to be accessible from the Internet then you will have to configure static IP in your guest, ensure that you give an IP in the 192.168.231.0/24 range. Then you will have to set up DNAT iptable rules. AFAIK, to prevent libvirt from overriding your rules, you should be using -I (INSERT) instead of -A (APPEND). Put your rules in the file /etc/sysconfig/iptables This is the theory. I *do not* use libvirt. I use VDE for my networking with command line KVM. I set mine up to pass through to the DHCP server in the outside world, and identify the VM by using a MAC address setting so DHCP can assign the IP. If for any reason I need to change IP addressing I can do it all in the dhcpd.conf file. I'm also using KVM from the command line, with startup scripts, and I define my own bridge and add the external NIC to that. Another of the many possible ways to address having servers in a VM. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 14:34 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Joshua C. wrote: The installation process guides you through some basic points (like grub, partitioning, basic packages). While I am at it, I think the partitioning options are badly put, too. The first option should be to use the current partitions, in my view. The second should be to set up partitions as one wants. I kind of agree. I must have installed every Fedora system since FC1 and every single time I get to this question (or the equivalent in earlier versions) I have doubts about how to proceed. I almost always want to keep my existing partition scheme and just install (not update) the new Fedora version on /, preserving /home untouched, but the dialogue doesn't make it easy to understand how to do this. It would reduce installation anxiety considerably if Anaconda told me the exact consequences of each option before asking me to confirm, but for some reason every time I get to this point I find myself wondering what does this *really* mean?. Maybe I'm just paranoid. I suspect that most people who have installed Fedora before know that it is best to avoid the crazy system suggested by Anaconda. Most distributions nowadays ship with both kde and gnome. By default fedora installs gnome and I think every user who wants to try it should know this. It's not about being clever or not. The PackageKit then gives you the ability to install and set kde. I'm not sure what this means. It is more or less impossible to replace Gnome by KDE after installation, in my experience. Strictly speaking it *is* impossible to install Fedora without at least part of Gnome. Installing both and choosing one or the other is not difficult. Installing from a KDE-focussed download isn't hard either and is usually what I do. I'm afraid that I suspect a political or philosophical motive at work here. Redhat/Anaconda have a sort of vestigial loyalty to Gnome, and don't want the alternative to be too visible. There's nothing vestigial about it. Fedora is upfront about being a Gnome distro which also supports KDE. For example the upcoming DeviceKit stuff mentions Gnome components in the same breath as the kernel. This is common in Fedora docs. I gripe about it from time to time but I doubt anything can be done about it at present. The current state of free desktop architectures doesn't seem to allow neutrality. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, current rawhide and Empathy client show great promise as it adds audio and video conference options. But one thing that Fedora users are used to have, IRC chat, seams like it is not supported and not working in current version of Empathy. Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way? Install SeaMonkey. And there you have a IRC client built-in, Chatzilla. From the browser or email client press Ctrl-6 and the Chatzilla module loads. FC -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can ISPs be trusted?
Alan Cox wrote: The question is as much can they ISP employees be trusted Most of the tools assume not for anything critical - Firewalls on PCs are user not ISP managed - SSL uses digital signatures so that if your ISP or its staff try to like about name to address mappings you get warned - ssh uses crypto and host keys and the like There are plenty of people in the ISP world who can earn good money from installing loggers for people without needing to worry about the government ;) I trust Verizon to do the wrong thing in every case. When DNS poisoning was an issue, they not only didn't use random ports for DNS inqueries, they DNATed any DNS request to teir DNS server, so I couldn't even run my own correctly patched DNS. Now they have blocked access to mail servers other than their own, by doing the same thing to port 25, claiming that people can use 3rd party mail services if only the 3rd party services will convert to Verizon's mail protocol. You can get an unfiltered connect to the Internet for only $300US more each month, indicating that they aren't interested in blocking SPAM, just in getting more money from spammers and anyone running their own mail. Fortunately there is another provider available. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing vestigial about it. Fedora is upfront about being a Gnome distro which also supports KDE. For example the upcoming DeviceKit stuff mentions Gnome components in the same breath as the kernel. This is common in Fedora docs. I gripe about it from time to time but I doubt anything can be done about it at present. The current state of free desktop architectures doesn't seem to allow neutrality. Then step up and do the work, if you want KDE on an equal footing. It's not like the KDE people within Fedora haven't been saying this for ages and ages and ages. Gods know I couldn't care less about KDE, but the incessant wah wah wah we're a second-class citizen gets very old. -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
Hi; Patrick, I am with you! On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 09:52 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 14:34 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Joshua C. wrote: The installation process guides you through some basic points (like grub, partitioning, basic packages). While I am at it, I think the partitioning options are badly put, too. The first option should be to use the current partitions, in my view. The second should be to set up partitions as one wants. I kind of agree. I must have installed every Fedora system since FC1 and every single time I get to this question (or the equivalent in earlier versions) I have doubts about how to proceed. I almost always want to keep my existing partition scheme and just install (not update) the new Fedora version on /, preserving /home untouched, but the dialogue doesn't make it easy to understand how to do this. It would reduce installation anxiety considerably if Anaconda told me the exact consequences of each option before asking me to confirm, but for some reason every time I get to this point I find myself wondering what does this *really* mean?. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Even for experienced users, some of the Anaconda choices are full of FUD. Keeping in mind, that most people don't re-partition very often, or install grub very often or burn DVD's very often or rename their machines very often, or input the addresses of their repos very often etc. etc., asking them to choose a process when their machines have been taken over by the installation process and it is too late to double check, is confusing at the best of times and infuriating when things are going wrong. I really feel sorry for someone installing for the first time who is brand new to Linux or Fedora. There should be explanation Buttons through out Ananconda, not written for the experienced, but for the newbie particularly somebody coming over from M$ Windows. Much of that text already exists in documentation of Installation Notes and Release Notes. The problem is that those documents are unavailable when a user needs them the most. I suspect that most people who have installed Fedora before know that it is best to avoid the crazy system suggested by Anaconda. In the past, I have inadvertently got into one of the non-custom options and had to back out and re-start the installation. (Actually I didn't have to re-start, but I didn't know that at the time.) Strictly speaking it *is* impossible to install Fedora without at least part of Gnome. Installing both and choosing one or the other is not difficult. Installing from a KDE-focussed download isn't hard either and is usually what I do. There's nothing vestigial about it. Fedora is upfront about being a Gnome distro which also supports KDE. For example the upcoming DeviceKit stuff mentions Gnome components in the same breath as the kernel. This is common in Fedora docs. I gripe about it from time to time but I doubt anything can be done about it at present. The current state of free desktop architectures doesn't seem to allow neutrality. I keep a TomBoy note ongoing in which I add a list of all of the dickey little things I have to do before and while installing the latest Fedora version. I print it out as hard copy just before each time I install. (Just in case.) Unfortunately, that list is getting longer and longer. To me Anaconda should or could be Fedora's main sales page. When I think of the time and frustration of installing a M$ Windows OS, Fedora's installation should be reduced to a couple of Button pushes as a comparison. On first start after installation, gpk-application should be thrust front and centre in order to pick your applications. I have a bash script that runs yum with a list of about 20 applications I want with each Fedora version. It took me a couple of weeks on Fedora 11 to discover that Ad/remove Software i.e.gpk-application, could quickly get me everything I wanted. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 08:10 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing vestigial about it. Fedora is upfront about being a Gnome distro which also supports KDE. For example the upcoming DeviceKit stuff mentions Gnome components in the same breath as the kernel. This is common in Fedora docs. I gripe about it from time to time but I doubt anything can be done about it at present. The current state of free desktop architectures doesn't seem to allow neutrality. Then step up and do the work, if you want KDE on an equal footing. It's not like the KDE people within Fedora haven't been saying this for ages and ages and ages. Gods know I couldn't care less about KDE, but the incessant wah wah wah we're a second-class citizen gets very old. I'm simply responding to Tim's comment with my take on the facts as they are. I don't expect them to change and I'm certainly not in a position to change them myself, but I use Fedora anyway as it's by far the best distro out there for what I want. The perennial if you don't like it then fix the problem yourself or just shut up is what gets very old, as do witty paraphrases such as you can always return it for a full refund. So only seasoned developers get to have an opinion and the rest of us can just take what we get and be thankful? I don't think so. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Tons of USB messages
Hi. For months, I've been getting messages like the following to /var/log/messages: Oct 10 09:39:32 pigpen kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 7 I'm getting about 3-4 per second, so the file gets to be a couple hundred megabytes. It seems kind of silly. Is there any way to disable these messages short of disconnecting the device? I think the device in question is a card reader that came integrated with the desktop PC, so I'm not sure what it might take to disconnect it. I don't think it works in any case. Thanks, Reid -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
Marc Wilson wrote: Then step up and do the work, if you want KDE on an equal footing. It's not like the KDE people within Fedora haven't been saying this for ages and ages and ages. It became evident a few months ago that a suggestion like yours, while certainly reasonable, is not useful. Even if KDE were good/polished/complete enough (and it actually is), the proposal let the user choose desktop was replied with we do not want the user to choose. So, given: a) the user will not choose, we choose b) our choice is GNOME KDE people have been unable to change a). Attacking b) is not natural to KDE people, as KDE *is* fundamentally about _choice_ (the same doesn't apply to GNOME, which is fundamentally about _pre-cooked_). Best regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: Marc Wilson wrote: Then step up and do the work, if you want KDE on an equal footing. It's not like the KDE people within Fedora haven't been saying this for ages and ages and ages. It became evident a few months ago that a suggestion like yours, while certainly reasonable, is not useful. Even if KDE were good/polished/complete enough (and it actually is), the proposal let the user choose desktop was replied with we do not want the user to choose. So, given: a) the user will not choose, we choose b) our choice is GNOME KDE people have been unable to change a). Attacking b) is not natural to KDE people, as KDE *is* fundamentally about _choice_ (the same doesn't apply to GNOME, which is fundamentally about _pre-cooked_). Best regards. -- Roberto Ragusa mail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I haven't missed a beat! what fun! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Test GIMP 2.7/2.8 ?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:52:26 +, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:34:25 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: I there a way to test new GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora? I looked in Rawhide repos and I still see only 2.6x versions there. Any plans to put 2.7 in Rawhide repost for testing purposes? Should I ask on development channel? You might file an RFE bug against gimp and see what the packager says. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 12:37 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Joshua C. wrote: I'd like to be asked during installation if I want to use Gnome or KDE or some other environment. Am I alone in this? One has to go through a slightly tortuous path to get KDE installed. Take a look at this: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/sn-package- selection.html It's from the f11 installation guide (section software selection). Just click on desktop environments and choose KDE or GNOME. It's simple enough. How many people installing Fedora for the first - or even the second - time would choose to Customize now? probably nearly identical to the number of people who know that there's a choice of desktop managers. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:25 AM, William Case billli...@rogers.com wrote: There should be explanation Buttons through out Ananconda, not written for the experienced, but for the newbie particularly somebody coming over from M$ Windows. Much of that text already exists in documentation of Installation Notes and Release Notes. The problem is that those documents are unavailable when a user needs them the most. I call bull. They are available before he starts. -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: The perennial if you don't like it then fix the problem yourself or just shut up is what gets very old, as do witty paraphrases such as you can always return it for a full refund. So only seasoned developers get to have an opinion and the rest of us can just take what we get and be thankful? I don't think so. Everyone certainly gets to have an opinion. The KDE thing is very old. The difference, however, is that the KDE people within Fedora are, always saying please, come help us, and all anyone wants to do is complain about how things aren't the way they think they should be. File bug reports. Help with translations. Do whatever. No one wants to. (gods help me, the world is about to implode, I'm speaking in favor of KDE) -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] TTF problem while compiling from source
Can anyone shed some light on this? I still haven't been able to resolve this. Just some pointers on where I might find my answers is all I need. This font business is very confusing to me. 2009/10/7 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I have a weird problem probably very specific to Fedora, hence who better to ask but thte list? ;) I am trying to compile the latest svn trunk of ROOT[1]. It compiles without errors and everything seems fine. While using the interactive CLI (known as CINT, its an _interpreter_ for C++), one of the GUIs segfaults with an error like this: Root Error in RootX11ErrorHandler: BadFont (invalid Font parameter) (XID: 54526094, XREQ: 46) I have reported this to the developers and they haven't been able to duplicate this problem on their end (on Scientific Linux 4 5). Hence they think this might be something very specific to Fedora. On my system I have installed everything using yum, so unless there is some inconsistency somewhere everything should be fine. I haven't seen any other font problems in any of the apps I use. So kinda stumped how to troubleshoot this. This is what one of them had to say about the problem, That's really weird. It looks like it is connected with the GUI. Note that the fact something is installed using yum does not makes it safe. I recently had problem with a package called graphviz. The official yum version did not work for me. I had to installed it myself. But is the case the TTF yum install should be good I guess. (he made the last comment since I had mentioned I have used yum for everything) Now what would be the packages I should be looking at for this? I tried `yum search ttf' but that only comes up with fonts. Is there some package that controls how fonts behave in general? I have heard of fontconfig and something about ROOT not using fontconfig[2] but I don't know whether that is relevant here. This framework is like bread and butter for me, so pointers to where I should look to get behind all this will be very helpful. Thank you in advance for any suggestions. [1] http://root.cern.ch/ [2] This was mentioned in a Review request for ROOT. Look at comment #33 by Nicolas Mailhot in the following bugzilla report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451744 -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
I never really checked before, but I have a lot of evil spiders crawling around my server. Some of them respect my robots.txt file and others do not. Some of the ones that do are still *very* pushy. So I decided to shut that bastards off. Here's what I added to my httpd.conf: RewriteLoglogs/rewrite_log RewriteLogLevel 1 RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] and inside each of the virtual domains, I added: RewriteEngine On RewriteOptions Inherit Here's the problem. What I want to see is the rewrite_log telling me what it has redirected or failed. Instead, I'm getting a line telling me every link that it does NOT rewrite. For example: 72.30.65.61 - - [10/Oct/2009:14:28:24 --0400] \ [vdom.syslang.net/sid#b7298ed0][rid#b6b488e8/initial] (1) pass through /d1/fn I have googled my brains out and it seems like others have had the same questions. I see no answers. If anyone has any idea I love to hear it. I understand that nod_rewrite is complicated, but what I'd like to end up with a log of all the spiders that got rejected by my rules. Current;y, the access_log tells me where the attempt is, the error_log tell me nothing and the rewrite_log is telling me more than I want with none of what I need. The goal is to see the spiders bouncing off. Anyone? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
2009/10/10 Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] Are you actually missing the [OR] at the end of the 4th and 5th RewriteCond lines, or is that a mispaste... If you are missing the [OR] then you are only matching things that starts with any of the top four matches AND Mozilla/4.0 AND T-Mobile Dash (somewhat mutually exclusive!)... Correct that and try again... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
2009/10/10 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/10/10 Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] Are you actually missing the [OR] at the end of the 4th and 5th RewriteCond lines, or is that a mispaste... If you are missing the [OR] then you are only matching things that starts with any of the top four matches AND Mozilla/4.0 AND T-Mobile Dash (somewhat mutually exclusive!)... I found this for a customer today, it's a cracking read and has some great pre-written ways of blocking this kind of thing: http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/fight-blog-spam-with-apache.html -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
Well - how about this. When Linus goes back to kde as his desktop, then maybe we should make it a simple choice Choose your desktop: a) Make it a surpise b) You pick for me please c) make it the same as Linus) e) Windows 7 please (press Ctrl-Alt-Delete-Shift-911) Go shopping. a) is not available and at the moment (b) and (c) are the same .. ... ;-) (=== NB smiley) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
recovering mp3 files
I have an external drive formatted ntfs that had some mp3 files that were erased by mistake. I've tried both foremost and scalpel to recover them but neither supports mp3 file format. Does anyone have a suggestion about a program that might work for this? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
On 10/10/09 14:37, quoth Steven W. Orr: I never really checked before, but I have a lot of evil spiders crawling around my server. Some of them respect my robots.txt file and others do not. Some of the ones that do are still *very* pushy. So I decided to shut that bastards off. Here's what I added to my httpd.conf: RewriteLoglogs/rewrite_log RewriteLogLevel 1 RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] and inside each of the virtual domains, I added: RewriteEngine On RewriteOptions Inherit Here's the problem. What I want to see is the rewrite_log telling me what it has redirected or failed. Instead, I'm getting a line telling me every link that it does NOT rewrite. For example: 72.30.65.61 - - [10/Oct/2009:14:28:24 --0400] \ [vdom.syslang.net/sid#b7298ed0][rid#b6b488e8/initial] (1) pass through /d1/fn I have googled my brains out and it seems like others have had the same questions. I see no answers. If anyone has any idea I love to hear it. I understand that nod_rewrite is complicated, but what I'd like to end up with a log of all the spiders that got rejected by my rules. Current;y, the access_log tells me where the attempt is, the error_log tell me nothing and the rewrite_log is telling me more than I want with none of what I need. The goal is to see the spiders bouncing off. Anyone? On 10/10/09 14:55, quoth Sharpe, Sam J: Are you actually missing the [OR] at the end of the 4th and 5th RewriteCond lines, or is that a mispaste... Yes, thanks, I missed that, but that isn't the problem. The problem is that I want to be able to see what gets rejected in the log files. I found this for a customer today, it's a cracking read and has some great pre-written ways of blocking this kind of thing: http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/fight-blog-spam-with-apache.html Turns out there are a number of these kinds of pages out there and some of them are asking the same question I am: How can I see the rejects in the log files? Anyone? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 11:09 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: The perennial if you don't like it then fix the problem yourself or just shut up is what gets very old, as do witty paraphrases such as you can always return it for a full refund. So only seasoned developers get to have an opinion and the rest of us can just take what we get and be thankful? I don't think so. Everyone certainly gets to have an opinion. The KDE thing is very old. The difference, however, is that the KDE people within Fedora are, always saying please, come help us, and all anyone wants to do is complain about how things aren't the way they think they should be. File bug reports. Help with translations. Do whatever. No one wants to. Depends where you look. Not everything is on this list, for example the Fedora-KDE list is full of people making bug reports and try to help however they can (and griping and asking questions like they do here of course; that's what lists are for). I've filed a good 6 or 7 reports in the past year or so. However filing a bug report on a KDE app has no effect whatever on the general Gnome-based policy of Fedora. Once again: I understand this and don't expect it to change because I believe the state of the art in Linux desktops simply hasn't reached a point where a distro can be both genuinely DE-neutral and fully functional. The freedesktop people are doing what they can and a lot of progress has been made, but there's a long way to go. Platforms where you don't get a choice don't have this problem of course. They have other problems instead. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
2009/10/10 Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net: On 10/10/09 14:37, quoth Steven W. Orr: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] The goal is to see the spiders bouncing off. On 10/10/09 14:55, quoth Sharpe, Sam J: Are you actually missing the [OR] at the end of the 4th and 5th RewriteCond lines, or is that a mispaste... Yes, thanks, I missed that, but that isn't the problem. The problem is that I want to be able to see what gets rejected in the log files. Your rule didn't match anything, because there are mutually exclusive options ANDed - that was my point. You can't have a user_agent that starts with Mozilla AND Sogou - it has to be one or the other, so you would have never seen anything in the logs. Without access to ALL your rewrite rules, I can't tell you whether lines such as: 72.30.65.61 - - [10/Oct/2009:14:28:24 --0400] \ [vdom.syslang.net/sid#b7298ed0][rid#b6b488e8/initial] (1) pass through /d1/fn are hits on the match set you posted above, or hits on another rewrite rule, but I don't see any evidence that it's the Spider matching rule that is generating those lines either. You might also try upping RewriteLogLevel to something higher than 1 to see more detail... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
On 09-10-10 14:37:29, Steven W. Orr wrote: ... Here's what I added to my httpd.conf: RewriteLoglogs/rewrite_log RewriteLogLevel 1 RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT}^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] and inside each of the virtual domains, I added: RewriteEngine On RewriteOptions Inherit Here's the problem. What I want to see is the rewrite_log telling me what it has redirected or failed. Instead, I'm getting a line telling me every link that it does NOT rewrite. For example: 72.30.65.61 - - [10/Oct/2009:14:28:24 --0400] \ [vdom.syslang.net/sid#b7298ed0][rid#b6b488e8/initial] (1) pass through /d1/fn I have googled my brains out and it seems like others have had the same questions. I see no answers. If anyone has any idea I love to hear it. WAG: The RewriteRule doesn't actually rewrite anything. Perhaps something would be logged if it did. You'd probably still have the other log lines as well. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On 10/10/2009 4:29 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 11:09 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: The perennial if you don't like it then fix the problem yourself or just shut up is what gets very old, as do witty paraphrases such as you can always return it for a full refund. So only seasoned developers get to have an opinion and the rest of us can just take what we get and be thankful? I don't think so. Everyone certainly gets to have an opinion. The KDE thing is very old. The difference, however, is that the KDE people within Fedora are, always saying please, come help us, and all anyone wants to do is complain about how things aren't the way they think they should be. File bug reports. Help with translations. Do whatever. No one wants to. Depends where you look. Not everything is on this list, for example the Fedora-KDE list is full of people making bug reports and try to help however they can (and griping and asking questions like they do here of course; that's what lists are for). I've filed a good 6 or 7 reports in the past year or so. However filing a bug report on a KDE app has no effect whatever on the general Gnome-based policy of Fedora. Once again: I understand this and don't expect it to change because I believe the state of the art in Linux desktops simply hasn't reached a point where a distro can be both genuinely DE-neutral and fully functional. The freedesktop people are doing what they can and a lot of progress has been made, but there's a long way to go. Platforms where you don't get a choice don't have this problem of course. They have other problems instead. If your 'problem' with KDE belongs to Fedora, Fedora package specific, was mine I would post it on Fedora's Bugzilla. If it was a KDE specific problem I would post it on the KDE Bugzilla. The same would hold true of specific questions. As for Fedora being a GNOME *based* disto? Many, most?, of the Fedora configuration *applications* are written in the same GTK that GNOME is written in but Fedora runs just fine with only a KDE, or other, Desktop installed and without a GNOME Desktop installed at all. You will, of course, still see some libs and such as they are needed by the system applications. But no GNOME Desktop will be installed, or be available to run, *if* you tell the installer not to install a GNOME Desktop. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: recovering mp3 files
Dave Stevens wrote: I have an external drive formatted ntfs that had some mp3 files that were erased by mistake. check these links; http://3d2f.com/tags/linux/unerase/file/ http://shareme.com/showall/ntfs-unerase.html http://linux-ext2-ext3-data-recovery-by-unistal.lastdownload.com/data-recovery-software.html http://linux-ext3-unerase.qarchive.org/ http://ntfs-undelete.software.informer.com/ http://www.sharewareconnection.com/r-linux-data-recovery-freeware.htm for more goto; http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=enoutput=linuxrestrict=linux enter 'ntfs AND unerase' in 'all these words:'. hth. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:28:14 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Install SeaMonkey. And there you have a IRC client built-in, Chatzilla. Anybody can install also pidgin, xchat or some other client, that is not the point. The point is that by default official Fedora Desktop Live CD will have one feature less than the previous release. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: The point is that by default official Fedora Desktop Live CD will have one feature less than the previous release. The point is that it's a live CD so who cares? -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:17:54 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: It is not a dependency. It is a optional plugin. If the question about IRC support is directed at developers, fedora-desktop list might be a better place to ask. Thank you Rahul, I forwarded the question to desktop list. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 17:18 -0400, David wrote: As for Fedora being a GNOME *based* disto? Many, most?, of the Fedora configuration *applications* are written in the same GTK that GNOME is written in but Fedora runs just fine with only a KDE, or other, Desktop installed and without a GNOME Desktop installed at all. You will, of course, still see some libs and such as they are needed by the system applications. But no GNOME Desktop will be installed, or be available to run, *if* you tell the installer not to install a GNOME Desktop. I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that system applications need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I don't expect it to be in the current state of the art. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [FYI] Laptop/netbook keyboard on/off toggle of WiFi transmitter stopped working with Fedora's 2.6.30 kernel
On 10/9/09, Mike Fleetwood mike.fleetw...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] On my Asus EeePC 1000HE netbook with Fedora 11 the keyboard toggle of the WiFi transmitter, Fn+F2, use to work perfectly. However since upgrading from kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.30 this stopped working. [...] If I should be logging a bug please let me know. It'd be useful, I think. Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On 10/10/2009 6:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 17:18 -0400, David wrote: As for Fedora being a GNOME *based* disto? Many, most?, of the Fedora configuration *applications* are written in the same GTK that GNOME is written in but Fedora runs just fine with only a KDE, or other, Desktop installed and without a GNOME Desktop installed at all. You will, of course, still see some libs and such as they are needed by the system applications. But no GNOME Desktop will be installed, or be available to run, *if* you tell the installer not to install a GNOME Desktop. I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that system applications need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I don't expect it to be in the current state of the art. One more time. The GTK2 that is used to write the system applications is GTK2. A programing language platform. No more and no less. KDE is written in QT4. None of the system applications that I can think of now are written in QT4. None that I know of anyway. Not in Fedora. Not in any other distribution that I can think of at the moment. Not one. At this very moment I can think of three other major distrobutions that install KDE only. Period. They *do not* install a GNOME Desktop at all unless you tell the installer to do that. None of them. Not a one. Will you see GTK2 'stuff' on then? Darn straight you will. All of them. Which means you need to convince the KDE folks to reinvent the wheel and write system configuration applications in QT4. And then you need to convince some, any, distribution to change their entire system configuration and to use the new files and to not use what they have used for years. All so that you can have a GTK free install without any of 'that nasty GNOME crap' installed. Good luck with that. :-) And it is not just the system files either. Some tiny application that you use will need the libs and *pow* there goes your pristine, KDE only, system. Have a nice night. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that system applications need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I don't expect it to be in the current state of the art. By your definitions, it's impossible, current state of the art or no. It seems that as far as you're concerned, if the application is using GTK, it's a Gnome app, and if it's using QT, it's a KDE app. So for a distribution to be DE-neutral, they'd have to write all their GUI tools using... what? wxWidgets? FLTK? Motif? -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 19:21 -0400, David wrote: On 10/10/2009 6:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 17:18 -0400, David wrote: As for Fedora being a GNOME *based* disto? Many, most?, of the Fedora configuration *applications* are written in the same GTK that GNOME is written in but Fedora runs just fine with only a KDE, or other, Desktop installed and without a GNOME Desktop installed at all. You will, of course, still see some libs and such as they are needed by the system applications. But no GNOME Desktop will be installed, or be available to run, *if* you tell the installer not to install a GNOME Desktop. I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that system applications need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I don't expect it to be in the current state of the art. One more time. The GTK2 that is used to write the system applications is GTK2. A programing language platform. No more and no less. The very first sentence on http://www.gtk.org/ is: GTK+ is a highly usable, feature rich toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces which boasts cross platform compatibility and an easy to use API. OK, so my question is *not*, as you seem to think, why do I have to use this when I prefer KDE?, but why do system applications need this if they don't have a graphical user interface?. [...] All so that you can have a GTK free install without any of 'that nasty GNOME crap' installed. You seem to have gotten it into your head that I have some problem with Gnome. If you look back at this thread I think you'll realize that this is entirely imaginary. Cheers. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 16:27 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that system applications need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I don't expect it to be in the current state of the art. By your definitions, it's impossible, current state of the art or no. It seems that as far as you're concerned, if the application is using GTK, it's a Gnome app, and if it's using QT, it's a KDE app. So for a distribution to be DE-neutral, they'd have to write all their GUI tools using... what? wxWidgets? FLTK? Motif? I think we're drifting away from the point here, or maybe I'm not being clear about what I mean. As an old-timer in the Unix game, I consider a GUI as an add-on. A system can work perfectly well without one (unless you want to do something specifically graphical). It may not be what most users want, but in some cases it's useful and even necessary to be able to run with no GUI at all. Being able to do this also indicates a clear separation of function between system stuff and GUI stuff, which in my view ought to be maintained. I just dislike the idea that a functional system, even in these conditions, has to have certain DE-derived libraries or apps to work properly. Given that these libraries and apps are specific to one DE, that means the distro is not DE-neutral. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
setting Num lock on by default
Hi everyone, How do I set the Num Lock to be on by default? Every time I log in, I have to turn it on even though I save the session before logging out. I did some searching, and found that a commonly prescribed solution is to install a package called numlockx. But it seemed to me that only works in runlevel 5. Shouldn't something as basic as this be available through some configuration somewhere? Any pointers? Thanks in advance. PS: I am using Windowmaker, so a command line solution would be more helpful. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On 10/10/2009 8:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 19:21 -0400, David wrote: On 10/10/2009 6:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 17:18 -0400, David wrote: As for Fedora being a GNOME *based* disto? Many, most?, of the Fedora configuration *applications* are written in the same GTK that GNOME is written in but Fedora runs just fine with only a KDE, or other, Desktop installed and without a GNOME Desktop installed at all. You will, of course, still see some libs and such as they are needed by the system applications. But no GNOME Desktop will be installed, or be available to run, *if* you tell the installer not to install a GNOME Desktop. I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that system applications need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I don't expect it to be in the current state of the art. One more time. The GTK2 that is used to write the system applications is GTK2. A programing language platform. No more and no less. The very first sentence on http://www.gtk.org/ is: GTK+ is a highly usable, feature rich toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces which boasts cross platform compatibility and an easy to use API. OK, so my question is *not*, as you seem to think, why do I have to use this when I prefer KDE?, but why do system applications need this if they don't have a graphical user interface?. [...] All so that you can have a GTK free install without any of 'that nasty GNOME crap' installed. You seem to have gotten it into your head that I have some problem with Gnome. If you look back at this thread I think you'll realize that this is entirely imaginary. Marc Wilson said it much better than I have. The applications have to be written in 'something'. These happen to be written in GTK. And my point was that that does not make Fedora a GNOME distribution. It appears to me that Fedora *chooses* to be a GNOME Desktop default distro. As for your personal feeling about GNOME? Your business. Your choice. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: setting Num lock on by default
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:10 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, How do I set the Num Lock to be on by default? Every time I log in, I have to turn it on even though I save the session before logging out. I did some searching, and found that a commonly prescribed solution is to install a package called numlockx. But it seemed to me that only works in runlevel 5. Shouldn't something as basic as this be available through some configuration somewhere? Any pointers? Thanks in advance. PS: I am using Windowmaker, so a command line solution would be more helpful. yum install numlockx -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can ISPs be trusted?
On 10/09/2009 02:55 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Paul wrote: If you have adequate security, your ISP should have no better access to your system/data than any other nefarious twerp on de intertubes. Actually even if you don't have security, your ISP has no better (or worse) access than the twerp. Then, I'm afraid Fedora's security is not as tight as it's supposed to be. See my answer to Phil Meyer. I would say that Paul's response is not correct. Since the ISP is directly in the route of your data they can intercept it and manipulate it. Of course, but I don't believe that's what Paul meant. He meant have access to your system/data on your computer. I would be delighted having to care only about data that goes through my ISPs servers. See: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-October/msg00691.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
privoxy conundrum
I use privoxy to filter unwanted junk from websites. I am using pretty well the standard user.action file, although I did add a few .ad.* type sites to block. Everything works splendidly, except for one problem: Any site that uses ssl.google-analytics.com refuses to load. They work fine if I disable privoxy. I have even tried putting ssl.google-analytics.com in the { -filter } section, but that doesn't work, either. Any ideas? PS: I use firefox. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome or KDE - why not ask?
On 10/11/2009 05:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I just dislike the idea that a functional system, even in these conditions, has to have certain DE-derived libraries or apps to work properly. Given that these libraries and apps are specific to one DE, that means the distro is not DE-neutral. system apps don't use GTK depending on your definition of a system application. Many desktop apps use GTK (and several others uses QT or some other toolkit) and that doesn't make them desktop environment at all. GTK apps are written for GNOME, Xfce, LXDE etc which is a very clear demonstration of the fact that GTK apps are not desktop environment specific. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I am using pretty well the standard user.action file Correction: I have restored the standard user.action file and the problem persists: no site using google- analytics.com will load. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: setting Num lock on by default
It may also be a BIOS setting. Scan your BIOS settings. On 10/10/09, Kam Leo kam@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:10 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, How do I set the Num Lock to be on by default? Every time I log in, I have to turn it on even though I save the session before logging out. I did some searching, and found that a commonly prescribed solution is to install a package called numlockx. But it seemed to me that only works in runlevel 5. Shouldn't something as basic as this be available through some configuration somewhere? Any pointers? Thanks in advance. PS: I am using Windowmaker, so a command line solution would be more helpful. yum install numlockx -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- NiftyFedora T o m M i t c h e l l -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: setting Num lock on by default
2009/10/11 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, How do I set the Num Lock to be on by default? Every time I log in, I have to turn it on even though I save the session before logging out. I did some searching, and found that a commonly prescribed solution is to install a package called numlockx. But it seemed to me that only works in runlevel 5. Shouldn't something as basic as this be available through some configuration somewhere? Any pointers? Thanks in advance. PS: I am using Windowmaker, so a command line solution would be more helpful. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. I had the same question. Just hesitated to ask. When booting into runlevel:3 I want NumLock to be switched on. Will check that numlockx. Thank you, Community! -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: setting Num lock on by default
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote: 2009/10/11 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, How do I set the Num Lock to be on by default? Every time I log in, I have to turn it on even though I save the session before logging out. I did some searching, and found that a commonly prescribed solution is to install a package called numlockx. But it seemed to me that only works in runlevel 5. Shouldn't something as basic as this be available through some configuration somewhere? Any pointers? Thanks in advance. PS: I am using Windowmaker, so a command line solution would be more helpful. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. I had the same question. Just hesitated to ask. When booting into runlevel:3 I want NumLock to be switched on. Will check that numlockx. Thank you, Community! -- Hiisi. NumLockX may not help you in runlevel 3. You might have to run the script listed at http://www.userlocal.com/tips/activatingnumlock.php -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:58:29 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I am using pretty well the standard user.action file Correction: I have restored the standard user.action file and the problem persists: no site using google- analytics.com will load. I haven't seen that problem and I use privoxy extensively as described here: http://www.melvilletheatre.com/articles/squid-privoxy/index.html Can you give me an example of a website that's causing you problems? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can ISPs be trusted?
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:48:44PM +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: On 10/08/2009 01:27 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Most people trust their ISP, and rightly so, I suppose. But what if an ISP was a vilain? :) What kind of access would it have to its users' computers? Isn't it the same as a client connected to a server? The server being root, it has full access to the client. . My problem is the following. I was playing with Thunderbird trying to filter messages so I could see only answers to my own posts. I saw that I had *one* with a reply header that I was sure I had never configured. I checked the headers and saw that accented letters for the title were written with the Windows 1252 charset. I only use 8859-1 in Thunderbird... I checked the message in my Sent box and it was exactly the same as the post on my nntp provider's server. ... Beginning DHCP transaction. Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost kernel: r8169: eth0: link up Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost kernel: r8169: eth0: link up Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost NetworkManager: info dhclient started with pid 2097 Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete. Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.1.0p1 Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: Copyright 2004-2009 Internet Systems Consortium. Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: All rights reserved. Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost NetworkManager: info DHCP: device eth0 state changed (null) - preinit Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:24:1d:2e:11:88 Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: Sending on LPF/eth0/00:24:1d:2e:11:88 Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: Sending on Socket/fallback Most ISPs can be trusted! As I look at this thread history and your log I suspect but cannot fully verify that all you are seeing is a side effect of DHCP or Thunderbird. Some users may may be seeing two layers of DHCP.. further complicating things. DHCP can set a long list of things from timezone to hostname lots more ending with an IP address. You can look at your distro documentation or the URL in your log file http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/; to see what hooks DHCP has to setup a system. DHCP is run early and is designed to change some things as root. You can configure the client to ignore, override etc most of them. Another external input is the mail message that Thunderbird is replying to. In general a graphical email tool will transparently pick up the character set of the message you reply to. Some HTML/XML/RichText messages can have multiple character sets in a message that includes previous messages in this and that language/ character set. The most common reply hook is to reply in kind. If you send me html mail I would assume that you are OK with HTML and if you reply to a 'text' email then a reply in the same 'text' mode is apropos. Also mail transport agents are getting character set aware. In a global world host names and user names used for email delivery are no longer restricted to the classic 7bit ASCII character set. Depending on the email message structure you may see interesting things in Mail headers or MIME attachment headers. I said Most ISPs can be trusted! while true is still subject to the normal problems of individuals exceeding their limits and bounds. Further ISPs AND their employees can be subject to pressures from all ends, legal and not legal. Because of this it makes sense to exercise caution. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to Pass Parameters to isolinux.cfg for console redirect
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Jon Jaroker fedoraliv...@jaroker.com wrote: I would like to add “console=ttyS0” to the append line in the isolinux.cfg file in order to capture boot messages when testing liveCDs. I notice that the live.py script includes an $(extra) parameter. Is it possible to add “console=ttyS0” to this $(extra) parameter? If so, where should it be set? Is there a better way to pass such parameters directly through the kickstart file, such as with the “bootloader” parameter? That's exactly how -- as the kickstart docs say bootloader --append=console=ttyS0 should do the trick with livecds and a real system install - Jeremy -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to Pass Parameters to isolinux.cfg for console redirect
Jeremy Katz ka...@fedoraproject.org writes: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Jon Jaroker fedoraliv...@jaroker.com wrote: I would like to add “console=ttyS0” to the append line in the isolinux.cfg file in order to capture boot messages when testing liveCDs. I notice that the live.py script includes an $(extra) parameter. Is it possible to add “console=ttyS0” to this $(extra) parameter? If so, where should it be set? Is there a better way to pass such parameters directly through the kickstart file, such as with the “bootloader” parameter? That's exactly how -- as the kickstart docs say bootloader --append=console=ttyS0 should do the trick with livecds and a real system install But what if you need to remove a default parameter, e.g. rhgb from the kernel parameter list on the livecd? Lars -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to Pass Parameters to isolinux.cfg for console redirect
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Lars Bjørndal lars.bjorn...@broadpark.no wrote: But what if you need to remove a default parameter, e.g. rhgb from the kernel parameter list on the livecd? you can modify isolinux.cfg as you like in %post --nochroot e.g. http://git.et.redhat.com/?p=ovirt-node-image.git;a=blob;f=ovirt-node-image.ks;h=6b9e2ace474d4c91f864038c8e07b6a43802eb13;hb=refs/heads/next#l61 -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] livecd-iso-to-pxe problem
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen kana...@kanarip.com wrote: Can you, and will you, send this upstream (to me for example?). Hi Jeroen, as noted in that workaround, this is a side-effect of a change in mkliveinitrd which affects only PXE boot of the livecd image, so fix could be to revert that in mkinitrd but this is unlikely since focus is now on Dracut. But even udev settle with 30s timeout and waiting up to 60 seconds is not working with active/passive arrays where udev timeouts a lot when reading passive paths, so it doesn't execute all rules on time, for example liveUSB boot fails where root=UUID=... is used. I'll post a better patch for mkliveinitrd and then see if F11 mkinitrd will get updated at this point. Cheers, Alan -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI/devel .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI.spec, 1.6, 1.7 sources, 1.4, 1.5
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv21298 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI.spec sources Log Message: * Sat Oct 10 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.12-1 - update to latest upstream version Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI/devel/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5 --- .cvsignore 31 Jul 2009 08:03:29 - 1.4 +++ .cvsignore 10 Oct 2009 07:13:56 - 1.5 @@ -1 +1 @@ -Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI-0.11.tar.gz +Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI-0.12.tar.gz Index: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI/devel/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI.spec,v retrieving revision 1.6 retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -p -r1.6 -r1.7 --- perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI.spec 31 Jul 2009 08:22:22 - 1.6 +++ perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI.spec 10 Oct 2009 07:13:56 - 1.7 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ Name: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI -Version:0.11 +Version:0.12 Release:1%{?dist} Summary:Saves session IDs by rewriting URIs delivered to the client License:GPL+ or Artistic Group: Development/Libraries URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI/ -Source0: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/D/DR/DROLSKY/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI-%{version}.tar.gz +Source0: http://cpan.org/modules/by-module/Catalyst/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI-%{version}.tar.gz BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) BuildArch: noarch BuildRequires: perl(Catalyst::Plugin::Session) = 0.06 @@ -55,6 +55,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT %{_mandir}/man3/* %changelog +* Sat Oct 10 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.12-1 +- update to latest upstream version + * Fri Jul 31 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.11-1 - update to latest upstream version Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI/devel/sources,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5 --- sources 31 Jul 2009 08:03:29 - 1.4 +++ sources 10 Oct 2009 07:13:56 - 1.5 @@ -1 +1 @@ -a54dee658c4556a72dcf4eea0e814ca1 Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI-0.11.tar.gz +3bd6c1eadc8aaf80d7684dd1ccfdd42c Catalyst-Plugin-Session-State-URI-0.12.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session/devel .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session.spec, 1.8, 1.9 sources, 1.5, 1.6
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv22961 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session.spec sources Log Message: * Sat Oct 10 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.27-1 - update to 0.27 - remove buildreq on perl(Text::MockObject) Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session/devel/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5 --- .cvsignore 1 Sep 2009 07:38:56 - 1.4 +++ .cvsignore 10 Oct 2009 07:30:23 - 1.5 @@ -1 +1 @@ -Catalyst-Plugin-Session-0.25.tar.gz +Catalyst-Plugin-Session-0.27.tar.gz Index: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session/devel/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session.spec,v retrieving revision 1.8 retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9 --- perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session.spec 1 Sep 2009 07:38:56 - 1.8 +++ perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session.spec 10 Oct 2009 07:30:23 - 1.9 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ Name: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session -Version:0.25 +Version:0.27 Release:1%{?dist} Summary:Catalyst generic session plugin License:GPL+ or Artistic Group: Development/Libraries URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Plugin-Session/ -Source0: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/B/BO/BOBTFISH/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-%{version}.tar.gz +Source0: http://cpan.org/modules/by-module/Catalyst/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-%{version}.tar.gz BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) BuildArch: noarch Requires: perl(MooseX::Emulate::Class::Accessor::Fast) = 0.00801 @@ -26,7 +26,6 @@ BuildRequires: perl(MooseX::Emulate::Cl # test BuildRequires: perl(Test::Deep) BuildRequires: perl(Test::Exception) -BuildRequires: perl(Test::MockObject) = 1.01 BuildRequires: perl(Test::More) # optional tests BuildRequires: perl(Test::Pod) @@ -95,6 +94,10 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot} %{_mandir}/man3/* %changelog +* Sat Oct 10 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.27-1 +- update to 0.27 +- remove buildreq on perl(Text::MockObject) + * Sat Aug 08 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.25-1 - switch to new filtering system (perl_default_filter) - auto-update to 0.25 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01) Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session/devel/sources,v retrieving revision 1.5 retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6 --- sources 1 Sep 2009 07:38:56 - 1.5 +++ sources 10 Oct 2009 07:30:23 - 1.6 @@ -1 +1 @@ -97c261322b3de46174a38d7a513022d0 Catalyst-Plugin-Session-0.25.tar.gz +c9a349b7ff0674efba58a7f3fa1f5b05 Catalyst-Plugin-Session-0.27.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File/devel .cvsignore, 1.5, 1.6 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File.spec, 1.6, 1.7 sources, 1.5, 1.6
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27084 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File.spec sources Log Message: * Sat Oct 10 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.18-1 - update to latest upstream version Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File/devel/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.5 retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6 --- .cvsignore 21 Jun 2009 07:34:07 - 1.5 +++ .cvsignore 10 Oct 2009 08:02:09 - 1.6 @@ -1 +1 @@ -Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File-0.17.tar.gz +Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File-0.18.tar.gz Index: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File/devel/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File.spec,v retrieving revision 1.6 retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -p -r1.6 -r1.7 --- perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File.spec26 Jul 2009 04:15:47 - 1.6 +++ perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File.spec10 Oct 2009 08:02:09 - 1.7 @@ -1,16 +1,16 @@ Name: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File -Version:0.17 -Release:2%{?dist} +Version:0.18 +Release:1%{?dist} Summary:File storage backend for session data License:GPL+ or Artistic Group: Development/Libraries URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File/ -Source0: http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/M/MR/MRAMBERG/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File-%{version}.tar.gz +Source0: http://cpan.org/modules/by-module/Catalyst/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File-%{version}.tar.gz BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) BuildArch: noarch BuildRequires: perl = 1:5.8.0 BuildRequires: perl(Cache::Cache) = 1.02 -BuildRequires: perl(Catalyst::Plugin::Session) = 0.21 +BuildRequires: perl(Catalyst::Plugin::Session) = 0.27 BuildRequires: perl(Catalyst::Runtime) = 5.7000 BuildRequires: perl(Class::Data::Inheritable) = 0.04 BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) @@ -59,6 +59,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT %{_mandir}/man3/* %changelog +* Sat Oct 10 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.18-1 +- update to latest upstream version + * Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 0.17-2 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File/devel/sources,v retrieving revision 1.5 retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6 --- sources 21 Jun 2009 07:34:07 - 1.5 +++ sources 10 Oct 2009 08:02:09 - 1.6 @@ -1 +1 @@ -0de087d51cbe1a78aed18c44f0adfd96 Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File-0.17.tar.gz +ab6912c5d8a4eeedc7d603e5bb0a47cf Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-File-0.18.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
your domain
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Re: your domain
user wrote: The domain http://soap.pbsolutions.eu which links to your website is being used to send SCAMMING e-mail PRETENDING to be on behalf of EBay You should act to closed down that domain, remove the link from it's under construction page, inform EBAY of the PHYSHING SCAMM operated by that domain, before legal action may be initiated. That is a test page included with our operating system; we don't actually control the site in question. Please refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ServerTestPage As a would be victim of such SCAM weren't it for the fact that I am a retired Government Computer specialist with 31 years of experience, I will have no problems initiating the legal action if you fail to act. It would be best to avoid making such threats until you have the proper facts. Thanks. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ How come we choose from just two people for president and 50 for Miss America? pgpCqoPbf6Hi8.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list