date:20091221

On 12/21/2009 10:36 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
> On 12/21/2009 09:29 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> 
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
>   This could be a GLODA bug ... please confirm it is off and of not try
> turning GLODA off and see if that helps.
> 
>Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced
> 
>  General
> 
>Unselect GLobal Indexing

Not using it.  (ie, its already off)

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Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????

2009-12-21 Thread Mail Lists

On 12/21/2009 09:29 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

>> Ralf
>>
> 
> 


  This could be a GLODA bug ... please confirm it is off and of not try
turning GLODA off and see if that helps.

   Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced

 General

   Unselect GLobal Indexing

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Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error

Colin Brace wrote:

Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:
I can't really help with your memory issue, but unless you plan on
coding your own X driver, you will probably want to stick to F11 since
it has a functioning Poulbos driver available from RPM Fusion:

http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/

It's been working great for me on an Acer A0751h-1401. I'm cannot tell
you how frustrated with Intel I am over the GMA-500.

Mike,

The Poulbos driver has also been an amazing source of frustration for me;
moreover, you've gotten further than I have. Since acquiring this netbook
around two months ago, I have been scouring the net looking for a solution
all in vain. I've posted it about in the comment section of Adam
Williamson's blog:

http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/#comment-980

As well as here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20091129132037671&board_id=20&model=Eee+PC+1101HA&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

and here:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=233185

and here:

http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=119960

without success. The worst is that an Amazon customer did get F11 working on
this very model:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R11XYCNXTRZQGX

As I detailed in exhaustive detail in all of the above posts, in any of the
distros that support Poulbos -- Ubuntu 9.04, F11, Mandriva 2010 -- the
screen grays out at the point X is loaded. Nothing in the xorg or system
logs give any indication of what is going wrong. The thing boots but nothing
is displayed.

At the moment, I am running this Eee with VESA 800x600, which is obviously
deeply unsatisfactory. I love the size/performance of this laptop, but
basically, from a Linux perspective, it appears to be a lemon; I would have
sold it already on eBay except that I deleted Windows the partition, and I
have no idea how to reinstall it.

Put it back in from you backup. :-(
Okay, you didn't make one, let's get your system working.

In similar situations I have had luck with these techniques. If you feel like
trying a few I expect one or more will help.

- add "vga=ask" or some known good resolution. Need not be your desired
resolution, just what works.
- be sure you take xorg.conf out and let it build one
- use the "video=" boot option to get various options
- use the option to set the X driver ("xdriver=" from memory)
- use another framebuffer
Can't guess which might help, sorry.

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Re: F12 - Firefox (firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12) SQLite Version Error

2009-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko

Mike Park wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I must be one of the very few people this has happened to, as Google
> appears to have only pointed me at 'Bug 520339' (
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520339 ).
>
> Has anyone else experienced behavior like this with Firefox? It seems
> my SQLite is up to date, so I'm wondering if there's a config setting
> somewhere that needs to be corrected?
>
>  It's weird, this happened recently after an update maybe sometime
> last week? I'm still in the process of trying to track down exactly
> which batch of updates did it, but for now, Firefox won't start up.
>
> Package version info below:
>
> $ rpm -qa \*xulrunner\* \*firefox\* \*sqlite\*
> firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64
> qt-sqlite-4.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64
> xulrunner-1.9.1.6-1.fc12.x86_64
> mono-data-sqlite-2.4.2.3-2.fc12.x86_64
> sqlite-3.6.20-1.fc12.x86_64
>
> $ uname -r
> 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64
>
>
>   
Have you tried starting firefox from the command line with -safe-mode
selected?


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Re: volume keybindings

2009-12-21 Thread Amadeus W.M.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:49:53 +, Steve Searle wrote:

> Around 02:18am on Monday, December 21, 2009 (UK time), Amadeus W.M.
> scrawled:
> 
>> Sorry to say, but I had to uninstall pulseaudio yet again. So I'm back
>> to alsa and I feel much better. Except that my Page-up/down
>> shortcuts don't work anymore. I guess they used to control pulse
>> volume. Does anyone know how to bind the sound keyboard shortcuts to
>> the alsa mixer? I'm guessing I have to do something in gconf-editor,
>> but I don't know the magic words.
> 
> For Gnome, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts?
> 

That's if you have pulseaudio installed. If you don't, you can set your 
keyboard shortcuts all you want, they won't do anything. Unless you bind 
them somehow to alsa. 

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Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...

2009-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 09:31:33 +1000,
  "Michael D. Setzer II"  wrote:
> 
> The installing of the OS is just a one class session event, and just goes 
> thru 
> the process of install the various linux version as a single OS on a system, 
> or 
> dual boot with Windows. It also takes a look at all the software programs 
> that 
> are available at installation or later. I wish I could go into more, but the 
> course focuses on networking.

This still seems like an odd match. If the course requires using Linux in
order to have a common set of network tools available, you might consider
having the students use liveusb images. Make buying a USB pen drive of
some minimum size a prerequisite and have a live image set up for them.
They should be able to get a precreated live usb image on their pen drives
in less than 4 hours and you don't need to take up class time explaining a
bunch of stuff that isn't relevant to the primary purpose of the course.
Links to supplementary information could even be bookmarked for use outside
of class by interested students.

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Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????

On 12/21/2009 07:59 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 12/22/2009 01:23 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
>> On 12/21/2009 05:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>> Welcome to the club - You seem to be facing the same issues as I have
>>> been facing ever since the TB3 betas hit Fedora.
>>>
>>> After things had somewhat smoothed since the inital Fedora release, with
>>> TB-3.0 (final) last week, things once again turn into "close to being
>>> unbearable/unusable".
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I don't know if who the culprit actually is:
>>> dovecot, TB3 or x86_64 or else.
>>
>> Me neither.  I had none of these problems with the betas.  Then again, I
>> wasn't using mail filters then either.  Now I am, and I'm also running
>> the new TB3.  My server has been running dovecot-1.2.8-4.0.cf
>> (I've been putting off the atrpms 1.2.9 update hoping that city-fan
>> would also put a 1.2.9 up for update.)  The only *recent* change has
>> been the new TB3 and the mail filters.
> 
> Are you running thunderbird on the same machine as dovecot or are they
> running on separate machines?

Separate.  The server is an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ running F10.i386.  The
laptop is running F11.x86_64.

> In my setup, I usually run thunderbird and dovecot-imap on the same
> x86_64 machine.
> 
> Throughout yesterday, I worked on a different, i386-machine accessing
> dovecot-imap on my x86_64-machine, and haven't observed one these issues
> (yet?).
> 
> Ralf
> 


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F12 - Firefox (firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12) SQLite Version Error

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Park

Hi there,

I must be one of the very few people this has happened to, as Google
appears to have only pointed me at 'Bug 520339' (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520339 ).

Has anyone else experienced behavior like this with Firefox? It seems
my SQLite is up to date, so I'm wondering if there's a config setting
somewhere that needs to be corrected?

 It's weird, this happened recently after an update maybe sometime
last week? I'm still in the process of trying to track down exactly
which batch of updates did it, but for now, Firefox won't start up.

Package version info below:

$ rpm -qa \*xulrunner\* \*firefox\* \*sqlite\*
firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64
qt-sqlite-4.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64
xulrunner-1.9.1.6-1.fc12.x86_64
mono-data-sqlite-2.4.2.3-2.fc12.x86_64
sqlite-3.6.20-1.fc12.x86_64

$ uname -r
2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64


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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-21 Thread Steven Ringwald

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 15:29 -0600, Mikkel wrote:
> My experience with ZIP disks was that if they came formatted, or if
> you used the Omega formatting tools, they always had one partition.
> What partition was an indication of what system they were formatted
> for. Windows was partition 4, Linux was partition 1, and I don't
> remember what MAC used. (It might not have used a DOS-type partition
> table.)

> I also remember removable platter SCSI drives that pre-dated ZIP
> drives, but I can not remember what they were called. The didn't have
> nearly as much capacity, and the cartridges were larger. I think I
> still have a couple in storage somewhere...

>
> I believe you are talking about the IoMega Jaz drive...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iomega_Jaz

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Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:16 -0800, Colin Brace wrote:
> Just now I am running memtest from the Live OS (F12) on an USB stick.
> It has run now for some 8 hours, and during the 2nd pass I got an
> error message:
>  
> Tst: 7
> Pass: 2
> Failing address: 7ba7454 - 123.6MB
> Good: 2aa1e9b
> Bad: 0aa1e19b
> Err-Bits: 2000
> Count: 1
> Chan:
>  
> This netbook came with a factory-installed 2GB SIMM. Am I now
> justified in returning it to Acer as defective?

Can you repeat the error?  If it's a random failure, it mightn't be the
RAM.  And unless you can prove a consistent RAM problem, it's harder to
prove that it should be replaced, and much harder to convince a vendor
that they have to.  If it fails the memory test, it'll also fail in
normal operations.  Don't let a vendor claim a memory test isn't
important.

For my money, what I buy has to have zero errors.  I've put up with a
computer with crap RAM once before, and I never intend to do that again.
It makes everything unreliable.  You don't know whether your RAM caused
a problem, or the software had a bug, but you can guarantee that you'll
get more crashes than you'd otherwise have.  I don't accept vendors that
make claims that a certain percentage of errors is acceptable, let
*them* have the faulty goods if they don't care.

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Re: Whereis gnome-volume-manager in FC12

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram

On 12/22/2009 07:11 AM, Jim wrote:
> Can some one tell what happen to gnome-volume-manager in FC12 ?

Obsoleted by Nautilus for several releases IIRC.

Rahul

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Re: G11 keyboard

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 22:40 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> I have a Logitech G15, because I like the little display in the
> middle. It doesn't improve my typing speed.

A good keyboard can really help, and a bad one can really hinder.  Some
keyboards are just plain nasty.

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Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 13:47 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
> If you're trying to install via a network install (NFS or HTTP), then
> the ISO image itself is what you point at, not a loopback mount of it.
> The installer wants to see the ISO image itself, not the files in it.

When I've done network installs in the past, it was possible to do it
either way (dependent on what sort of network install you were doing).
But I found it much faster to install from ordinary files on a drive,
there seemed to be an enormous memory and processing overhead on dealing
with a large ISO.  Sometimes it'd be a complete show-stopper.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 23:26 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> File permissions are rarely useful on a removable disk that anyone can
> plug into their own computer where they are root. One exception is if
> you use it for backups, in which case ext3 on the removable disk
> preserves the permissions although it can't enforce them.

Keeping ownership, permissions, and contexts, is useful for simple
back-ups.  And avoids the usual problem with FAT stored files, where
everything becomes executable.  Keeping ownership is also useful to
protect against accidents when a removeable drive is moved around boxes,
and several users use it.  Sure, root can mangle anything, but it makes
it harder for the wrong user to stuff up the wrong personal files.

Simple FAT storage losing ownership is useful for transferring file from
box to box, where user "tim" has different UIDs from one box to the
next.  That's a situation I try to avoid, but other people repeatedly
get snagged on, as they recreate users on a new box, but in a different
order.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 15:29 -0600, Mikkel wrote:
> My experience with ZIP disks was that if they came formatted, or if
> you used the Omega formatting tools, they always had one partition.
> What partition was an indication of what system they were formatted
> for. Windows was partition 4, Linux was partition 1, and I don't
> remember what MAC used. (It might not have used a DOS-type partition
> table.)

Pre-formatted Mac Zip discs had the Mac filing system on them.  But I
rarely saw them on sale, so users probably bought Windows preformatted
ones, and went with it, or reformatted them.

I imagine using partition 4 was so that it wasn't a primary partition,
and would get a drive letter after your existing primary partitions, so
not to shuffle important drive letters about.  Gawd, but I'm so glad I
don't have to deal with that crap ever again, though Linux's drive
renumbering is almost as bad.  At least it's only a one-time set-up
problem, not an ongoing problem - once mounted on the tree, applications
don't care what the drive actually is.  Compared to Windows, where it
can be a right pain to have to deal with a drive being E today, F
tomorrow, E later on...
> 
> I also remember removable platter SCSI drives that pre-dated ZIP
> drives, but I can not remember what they were called. The didn't have
> nearly as much capacity, and the cartridges were larger. I think I
> still have a couple in storage somewhere...

And do you still have punch cards being used as bookmarks?  ;-)  I found
a few more of mine earlier this year.  Haven't managed to find a
pristine one, though.  Hmm, maybe I should get some calling cards made
up that have that design to them.

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Whereis gnome-volume-manager in FC12

2009-12-21 Thread Jim


Can some one tell what happen to gnome-volume-manager in FC12 ?



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Samaba Versions ?

2009-12-21 Thread KC8LDO

I'm still trying to find why Samba doesn't work as expected on my F11 box. I 
found out there are some issues with the 3.4.2 version after doing some 
research with Google.


The one on my F12 box seems to work, at least for simple file sharing and 
browsing on the local home LAN, but not on the F11 box. I've been through 
all of the iptable stuff already with the help of some on the people on the 
list here, thanks.


The only difference I see now between the two is the version numbers. On F12 
its "3.4.2-47". On F11 its "3.4.2-42". I would have thought that both 
systems should at least have the same revision level since both are still 
actively maintained. I can't see where there should be any difference 
between the two distro releases for this package, F12 and F11.


Without having the same version on each machine leaves open the question 
that the older version is the problem, the one on the F11 machine. From my 
research there appears to be a problem with how Samba treats the remote 
machine that is inconsistent from previous versions. Some posters have 
reverted back to an older release to solve their problems. I'm wondering if 
the nasty bug(s) got fixed in the -47 version and not in the -42 version. If 
so why isn't there an update to the F11 repos? Somebody had to do it for 
F12.


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Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????

2009-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius


On 12/22/2009 01:23 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

On 12/21/2009 05:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Welcome to the club - You seem to be facing the same issues as I have
been facing ever since the TB3 betas hit Fedora.

After things had somewhat smoothed since the inital Fedora release, with
TB-3.0 (final) last week, things once again turn into "close to being
unbearable/unusable".

Unfortunately, I don't know if who the culprit actually is:
dovecot, TB3 or x86_64 or else.


Me neither.  I had none of these problems with the betas.  Then again, I
wasn't using mail filters then either.  Now I am, and I'm also running
the new TB3.  My server has been running dovecot-1.2.8-4.0.cf
(I've been putting off the atrpms 1.2.9 update hoping that city-fan
would also put a 1.2.9 up for update.)  The only *recent* change has
been the new TB3 and the mail filters.


Are you running thunderbird on the same machine as dovecot or are they 
running on separate machines?


In my setup, I usually run thunderbird and dovecot-imap on the same 
x86_64 machine.


Throughout yesterday, I worked on a different, i386-machine accessing 
dovecot-imap on my x86_64-machine, and haven't observed one these issues 
(yet?).


Ralf


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Re: Firefox not working after on line updates

2009-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko

Frank Cox wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:31 -0600, Brian Wood wrote:
>   
>> I downloaded/built/installed a new version of sqlite, but that hasn't
>> helped. 
>> 
>
> This is likely your problem.  Firefox probably expects to find sqlite
> installed from a Fedora rpm and not a homebuilt one.
>   
All this is rather strange since I did a

rpm --test -e sqlite

There is no "is needed by (installed) firefox"  but there is "is needed
by (installed) thunderbird".

So, it would not appear that firefox is dependent on sqlite.



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Re: gmail endless redirecting

2009-12-21 Thread hackob -

2009/12/21 Michael Semcheski :
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:27 PM, jackson byers  wrote:
>> I am getting endless redirecting on my gmail

Did you try?:
1: Back up your bookmarks
2: Erase ~/.mozilla/firefox directory
3: Start firefox
4: Restore bookmarks

Only a thought.

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Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????

On 12/21/2009 05:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Welcome to the club - You seem to be facing the same issues as I have
> been facing ever since the TB3 betas hit Fedora.
> 
> After things had somewhat smoothed since the inital Fedora release, with
> TB-3.0 (final) last week, things once again turn into "close to being
> unbearable/unusable".
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't know if who the culprit actually is:
> dovecot, TB3 or x86_64 or else.

Me neither.  I had none of these problems with the betas.  Then again, I
wasn't using mail filters then either.  Now I am, and I'm also running
the new TB3.  My server has been running dovecot-1.2.8-4.0.cf
(I've been putting off the atrpms 1.2.9 update hoping that city-fan
would also put a 1.2.9 up for update.)  The only *recent* change has
been the new TB3 and the mail filters.

> Ralf

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Re: Firefox not working after on line updates

2009-12-21 Thread Frank Cox


On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:31 -0600, Brian Wood wrote:
> I downloaded/built/installed a new version of sqlite, but that hasn't
> helped. 

This is likely your problem.  Firefox probably expects to find sqlite
installed from a Fedora rpm and not a homebuilt one.
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Re: chromium from spot crashes

2009-12-21 Thread Neal Becker

Mike Cloaked wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Neal Becker wrote:
>> 
>>  Since today's update to
>> chromium-4.0.273.0-0.1.20091216svn34775.fc12.x86_64
>> 
>> chromium-browser crashes on every startup.  Where to report?
>> 
>> 
> 
> I found I had an SElinux issue but as root I did:
> chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/chromium-browser/*.so
> 
> then restarting chromium and it worked OK...

Nope, no selinux here.  It looks like crashes come from
nspluginwrapper.

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Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...

2009-12-21 Thread Michael D. Setzer II

On 22 Dec 2009 at 4:52, Tim wrote:

Subject:Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...
From:   Tim 
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,
and advice for using Fedora." 
Keywords:   Organization:   I'm Spartacus!
Date sent:  Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:52:38 +1030
Send reply to:  "Community assistance, encouragement,
and advice for using Fedora." 
and advice for using Fedora." 

> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 19:25 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> > Finally got the go ahead to create two Linux courses to our College
> > program. Have included Linux in my lab since Redhat 9 thru the current
> > Fedora 12, but have just been able to show students little bits of it
> > from time to time, since the program is geared to mostly windows and
> > some courses using AS/400 mini system. 
> > 
> > The Ideal is to over a beginning Linux course, and an second level
> > course as a start. In the networking class, I have one 4 hour section
> > where the students go thru the installation of various Linux OS's,
> > and they can use the Fedora, but many students still stay with
> > windows.
> 
> It seems obtuse, to me, to have installing an OS as part of a networking
> course.  Considering that people do courses to learn something in
> particular, I wouldn't mix and match.  A beginners guide to something
> ought to be about using it in a general manner (what it is, what makes
> Linux different from Windows, how to do basic tasks).  Installing would
> be something else, likewise with networking.

The installing of the OS is just a one class session event, and just goes thru 
the process of install the various linux version as a single OS on a system, or 
dual boot with Windows. It also takes a look at all the software programs that 
are available at installation or later. I wish I could go into more, but the 
course focuses on networking.

The campus has like 1000 or so computer systems, and my 20 classroom 
machines are the only ones that have LInux. The are  two Mac labs in 
another building, but all other machines are Windows only. 

> 
> There'd be plenty of people who could do one of those things, but not
> the other, and that's what they want to learn.  I've tried to help
> people who've gone on a computing course, only to see them struggling
> with (a) stuff that's irrelevant to what they need, and (b) stuff that's
> just plain wrong.  The second one's probably hardest to deal with,
> because they have to pass a course, and I can't teach someone to learn
> something that's broken in the lecturer's head.

I tend to agree with what you are saying here. My ideal was to get 
information that would provide information that is what the students should 
know. The practical use of things versus the ACADEMIC knowledge. 

Much of the current text materials are so much on following specific 
directions and click click click instead of understanding why one is doing the 
process. 

> 
> If you can't find what's needed by beginners (e.g. how to use OpenOffice
> instead of Office, how to search the internet, etc.) ahead of time, then
> you could offer sub-courses, and see what people elect.

My lab in addition to Linux also has OpenOffice and various other Open 
Source Programs that run on WIndows to show the students. I also have 
Firefox, Safari, and Chrome to show the students there is more than just IE. 
The other labs are all basically standard Windows installs. 

Last year, the college spend $79 each to upgrade 500 machines from Office 
2003 to 2007. Seems they ordered the keyboarding book that used 2007, 
instead of the one that used 2003, so they had to buy the new software. 
Checked with students in my classes and only 20% had 2007, and when 
asked how many had a legal copy the answer was 0. I use OpenOffice since 
I don't have a copy of 2003 or 2007, but our Admin and MIS are M$,

> 
> Personally, I'm highly reluctant to go for any more training.  Years of
> being a student, and teaching students, has made me thoroughly sick of
> having my time wasted (stuff you don't need to learn, bad teaching, and
> no return for effort - e.g. going on 4 years full time, or 8 years of
> night time study, to earn $20 a week more than someone who hasn't done
> that course).

Know what you mean. I was going to a 4 year college, when I switched to the 
community college to actually learn practical knowledge. 

I learned on an IBM 1130 with 4K Ram and punched cards, which effects my 
approach to getting the most out of the resourses one has available. .

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

> 
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Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error

2009-12-21 Thread Colin Brace

Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:
> 
> I can't really help with your memory issue, but unless you plan on 
> coding your own X driver, you will probably want to stick to F11 since 
> it has a functioning Poulbos driver available from RPM Fusion:
> 
> http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/
> 
> It's been working great for me on an Acer A0751h-1401.  I'm cannot tell 
> you how frustrated with Intel I am over the GMA-500. 

Mike,

The Poulbos driver has also been an amazing source of frustration for me;
moreover, you've gotten further than I have. Since acquiring this netbook
around two months ago, I have been scouring the net looking for a solution
all in vain. I've posted it about in the comment section of Adam
Williamson's blog: 

http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/#comment-980

As well as here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20091129132037671&board_id=20&model=Eee+PC+1101HA&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

and here:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=233185

and here:

http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=119960

without success. The worst is that an Amazon customer did get F11 working on
this very model:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R11XYCNXTRZQGX

As I detailed in exhaustive detail in all of the above posts, in any of the
distros that support Poulbos -- Ubuntu 9.04, F11, Mandriva 2010 -- the
screen grays out at the point X is loaded. Nothing in the xorg or system
logs give any indication of what is going wrong. The thing boots but nothing
is displayed.

At the moment, I am running this Eee with VESA 800x600, which is obviously
deeply unsatisfactory. I love the size/performance of this laptop, but
basically, from a Linux perspective, it appears to be a lemon; I would have
sold it already on eBay except that I deleted Windows the partition, and I
have no idea how to reinstall it.

At this point I honestly feel like tossing this POS in the nearest canal,
and starting over with the one of the Intel 950-based netbooks.

-Colin

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Re: G11 keyboard

2009-12-21 Thread Sam Sharpe

2009/12/21 Bill Davidsen :
> I have the Logitech G11 "gaming" keyboard, which I really want for filling
> in frequently used terms, not gaming, and there doesn't seem to be a good
> way to get the programable keys enabled. I would settle for turning them on,
> being able to program them from the computer would be a bonus, but I can do
> it by hand if I can enable them at all.

I have a Logitech G15, because I like the little display in the
middle. It doesn't improve my typing speed.

> There's reference to a package g15macro, but it's intended for other similar
> hardware, etc, and before I spend the time working on it (I got the source)
> for Fedora and a different keyboard I thought I'd ask if someone has a
> canned solution, like another program or rpm for g15macro which works.

http://www.g15tools.com/Welcome.html - says it supports G11's as well.

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Firefox not working after on line updates

2009-12-21 Thread Brian Wood

Yesterday I allowed the system to install some security updates.
Since then when I've tried to start Firefox, I get "The application has
been updated, but your version of SQLite is too old and the
application cannot run."  I downloaded/built/installed a new version
of sqlite, but that hasn't helped.  Any suggestions on how to
resolve this?  I installed lynx and tried using that to download
Chrome, but ran into a problem with javascript not being
supported (possibly) by lynx.  tia.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-21 Thread Björn Persson

Mikkel wrote:
> You can format a drive without a partition table, and still
> format/use it. I am not sure if it would get automatically mounted,
> but it does work.

I've got a USB stick here that was sold with a PDF book on it. To my surprise 
it had no partition table, just a FAT32 filesystem directly on the device. 
Fedora automounts it just fine, and Windows too.

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Re: gmail endless redirecting

2009-12-21 Thread Michael Semcheski

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:27 PM, jackson byers  wrote:
> I am getting endless redirecting on my gmail

Have you tried going to mail.google.com?  I have the same problem in
Safari if I go to gmail.com, but no problem if I go to
mail.google.com.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-21 Thread Björn Persson

Tim wrote:
> There are drivers to read ext3 on Windows.  If you use both systems,
> you'll have to weigh up which is the most convenient.  Native file
> systems on Linux, which supports your normal permissions and ownership
> file details.  Or a pathetic-featured file system that can be easily
> read by many different systems.

File permissions are rarely useful on a removable disk that anyone can plug 
into their own computer where they are root. One exception is if you use it 
for backups, in which case ext3 on the removable disk preserves the 
permissions although it can't enforce them.

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Re: Monday as first day of week - Gnome Calendar

2009-12-21 Thread Erik P. Olsen


On 20/12/09 23:55, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

Hello all,

I'm on Fedora 12 and getting used to Gnome after using KDE for many years...
Is there a way to change the first day of week from Sunday to Monday on the
Calendar applet?  I tried searching for it for a while but nothing seems to
work for me.   I tried changing:

first_weekday 1
to
first_weekday 2

on the file:  /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US (my locale) but that didn't work.
I restarted the panel&  tried rebooting after that with no sucess.


Maybe you could change your locale to en_GB. I use en_GB and have Monday as 
first weekday.


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Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????

2009-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius


On 12/21/2009 02:47 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

OK, so I'm an email hog.  I don't like to use the delete key.  Here's my
setup:

My email server is F10.i386  (yeah, yeah, I know its EOLed)
Its up-to-date, running dovecot as my IMAP server.

My laptop is F11.x86_64.  I'm running the new thunderbird 3.0 which was
just released.

My Inbox was getting very large.>  70,000 messages in it.  While things
were starting to take a long time to do, yesterday I finally decided to
do something about it.  I created some 25 (or so) sub-folders in my
primary email account and set about transferring various emails from my
Inbox to the sub-folders.  For the most part, I created an email filter
for every email list I am a member of to automatically move emails from
each list to its own sub-folder.  It took me a while (>  4 hours).  When
I was done it was working.  Kinda.  I noticed that I had started seeing
some really strange problems.

While reading my incoming fedora-list emails (for example), thunderbird
marked the email I was currently reading as un-read, right before my
eyes!  It also marked the 3 emails I had *just* read as unread.  While
going though that mailbox (using the Next button to read the next unread
email), I read some messages 3-4 times before it finally told me I had
read everything!

That's when I started to notice that all of a sudden I had 38 unread
emails in the mailbox I had read previous to the one I was in now.
When I went back to read them, most of them were familiar!  I had just
read them.  I wss going nuts.  What's happening?

This morning I st down to read my emails that occurred overnight.

Thunderbird tells me I have 38 unread emails in my Admin box.  When I go
there to read them, it tells me there are only 24 unread emails!  The
first one is dated 9/26/2009!  OK, so I read it.  I'm pretty sure I've
read it before  I continue to read the other 23 emails.  Then I hit
the Next button again, and here I am back at this email from 9/26 again!

While I'm writing this email, thunderbird now tells me I have 4 unread
emails in my Admin mailbox.

One of them is new.  The rest are dated:  5/4/2009, 9/26/2009 (yeup,
them same one I've read twice already today!), and 10/11/2009, and
10/11/2009.  That's right, while I was reading them, it decided to mark
another already read email as unread!

Am I going nuts   Oh, wait!  I have 4 unread email in Admin:
5/4/2009, 9/26/2009, and those 2 from 10/11/2009 again!

Now its happened again!  Please, someone tell me how to get thunderbird
to stop this madness!


Welcome to the club - You seem to be facing the same issues as I have 
been facing ever since the TB3 betas hit Fedora.


After things had somewhat smoothed since the inital Fedora release, with 
TB-3.0 (final) last week, things once again turn into "close to being 
unbearable/unusable".


Unfortunately, I don't know if who the culprit actually is:
dovecot, TB3 or x86_64 or else.


Ralf

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Re: gmail endless redirecting

2009-12-21 Thread Hiisi

2009/12/22 jackson byers :
> recent update
> $ uname -r
> 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE
>
> Fedora/3.5.6-1.fc11 Firefox/3.5.6
>
> I am getting endless redirecting on my gmail
>
> nothing i try on the gmail site suggestions seems to help.
> it allows me to report the problem but  I cant get out of the loop.
>
> The only 'fix' I have found so far is to reboot,  then I seem to be ok
> for a while.  But then the problem reoccurs
> when I say sign out of one gmail account and try another.
>
>
> Is this likely a firefox problem?
> or combo of f11 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE  kernel and
>  firefox 3.5.6 ?
>
<--SNIP-->
>
> Advice?  anyone else on this list having similar problems?
> Jack
>

When dealing with any kind of (seemingly) Firefox problem one should
first try to start it in safe mode (form terminal: 'firefox
--safe-mode'). It should be put into list guidelines.

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SeaMonkey

Revision 2.0.1 is out, fixes one nasty bug with using authenticated news servers 
(motzarella in my case), as well as some minor security issues.


No RFE, but the corresponding Firefox and TBird versions were packaged...

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Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again

2009-12-21 Thread Rick Stevens


On 12/21/2009 12:20 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote:

2009/12/20 Timothy Murphy:

I'm taking the liberty of re-posting this query,
as there seemed some problems with the previous posting,
hopefully now resolved:

Has anyone actually succeeded in booting Fedora-12
from the DVD ISO file on the hard disk,
by adding a stanza to grub.conf ?

I carried out the following commands:
-
[...@alfred ~]$ sudo mkdir /mnt/Fedora
[...@alfred ~]$ sudo mount -o loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora/


So that means Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso is in /home/tim/


Now when I boot into this, all goes well
until I try to install from Fedora-12*.iso when I the error
"Device /dev/sda6 does not appear to contain
an installation image".

Am I doing something wrong?


I don't know for certain, but the only time I've ever tried this was
on RHEL and the ISO file had to be on the root of the partition. So I
think that means you should try moving it to
/home/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso on the assumption that /dev/sda6 is /home


I think I tuned in late here, but I'm not clear what you're trying to
do.  If I'm reading this correctly:

1. You're running Fedora from hard disk
2. You're then loopback mounting an ISO image of F12
3. You're trying to install from that loopback mount

You can't install a new Fedora on top of an already running Fedora to my
knowledge.  The install from DVD or LiveCD are special instances and
Fedora is not running off the hard drive in those cases--it's running
in a RAM disk.

If you're trying to install via a network install (NFS or HTTP), then
the ISO image itself is what you point at, not a loopback mount of it.
The installer wants to see the ISO image itself, not the files in it.
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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-21 Thread Chris Smart

2009/12/22 DB :
>
> Ah that gives 2 entirely different 32-digit numbers
>
> on the F11 desktop
> cee716a79cc7af0ee8f5f2613ca50578
>
> and on the F12 laptop
> 802d5ea893af6f936e77b81cf00a45fb
>

Did you run the sync command before you unmounted and unplugged the usb drive?

Also, a stupid question, is the tar too big to fit on the USB device
(which is only 4GB).

Are you overclocking your desktop's CPU?

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G11 keyboard

I have the Logitech G11 "gaming" keyboard, which I really want for filling in 
frequently used terms, not gaming, and there doesn't seem to be a good way to 
get the programable keys enabled. I would settle for turning them on, being able 
to program them from the computer would be a bonus, but I can do it by hand if I 
can enable them at all.


There's reference to a package g15macro, but it's intended for other similar 
hardware, etc, and before I spend the time working on it (I got the source) for 
Fedora and a different keyboard I thought I'd ask if someone has a canned 
solution, like another program or rpm for g15macro which works.


BTW: my word per hour are up about 10% since changing, just because it's a 
better keyboard. Great investment.


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Re: RFE? Or am I wasting my time?


Sam Sharpe wrote:

2009/12/21 Alan Evans :

So I thought to file a RFE about it except:

What component would it be against? Its location in the menu suggests
that it's some sort of Nautilus extension, but I can't figure what
package its in.


Now you do, but I think the real source of the problem is the GNOME project, so 
I bet the best you get is RH passing through your comments, possibly with an 
endorsement. Of course that's a BIG endorsement, if you can get someone to 
scream at them in two part harmony.


I agree with your assessment of this as misleading.


It's in file-roller:

[...@samlap Desktop]$ rpm -qif
/usr/lib64/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so
Name: file-roller  Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.28.1Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 2.fc12Build Date: Fri 30 Oct
2009 03:38:18 GMT
Install Date: Sat 31 Oct 2009 13:14:05 GMT  Build Host:
x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Group   : Applications/ArchivingSource RPM:
file-roller-2.28.1-2.fc12.src.rpm
Size: 4827862  License: GPLv2+
Signature   : (none)
Packager: Fedora Project
URL : http://download.gnome.org/sources/file-roller/
Summary : Tool for viewing and creating archives
Description :
File Roller is an application for creating and viewing archives files,
such as tar or zip files.


Am I the only person in the world that cares? I mean, would it just be
a waste of time for my to file a RFE that's inevitably going to be
ignored or closed NOTABUG?


I didn't actually notice until you pointed it out and while I don't
actually care either way, your reasoning makes sense - which is a
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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On 12/21/2009 03:13 PM, Robert Nichols wrote:
> Mikkel wrote:
>> Under Linux, you can do both. While you will be asked if that is
>> what you really want to do, the tools are happy to let you. Mount
>> has no problems mounting /dev/sda if you have formatted /dev/sda.
>> (Apposed to formatting /dev/sda1). Windows may not like it, but that
>> is another story.
> 
> Putting a filesystem on the entire, unpartitioned device is referred
> to as "super floppy" or "superfloppy" format.  It's been around, and
> supported, since the days of ZIP disks.
> 
My experience with ZIP disks was that if they came formatted, or if
you used the Omega formatting tools, they always had one partition.
What partition was an indication of what system they were formatted
for. Windows was partition 4, Linux was partition 1, and I don't
remember what MAC used. (It might not have used a DOS-type partition
table.)

I am not sure how far back the ability goes, but I suspect you could
do the same thing with the disk packs attached to mainframes. I also
remember removable platter SCSI drives that pre-dated ZIP drives,
but I can not remember what they were called. The didn't have nearly
as much capacity, and the cartridges were larger. I think I still
have a couple in storage somewhere... (I really NEED to clean house!!!)

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gmail endless redirecting

2009-12-21 Thread jackson byers

recent update
$ uname -r
2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE

Fedora/3.5.6-1.fc11 Firefox/3.5.6

I am getting endless redirecting on my gmail

nothing i try on the gmail site suggestions seems to help.
it allows me to report the problem but  I cant get out of the loop.

The only 'fix' I have found so far is to reboot,  then I seem to be ok
for a while.  But then the problem reoccurs
when I say sign out of one gmail account and try another.


Is this likely a firefox problem?
or combo of f11 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE  kernel and
 firefox 3.5.6 ?

If i reboot to the earlier kernel  96,
do I then need to also revert to earlier firefox?  if so, how?

In my recent attempts I clicked on firefox to be default browser
icon changed from orange to blue.
I fear I have made the problem even worse.
How can I revert to standard firefox
--the change didnt help and i would like to go back.


Advice?  anyone else on this list having similar problems?
Jack

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Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error


Colin Brace wrote:

Hi all,

I installed F12 on an Asus Eee 1101HA. Apart from the Intel GMA 500
("Poulbos") video driver, I have gotten most things working, but I am
troubled by frequent system freezes, sometimes literally within minutes of
booting.

There are no error messages reported in the system log, so I am assuming it
is a hardware problem.

Just now I am running memtest from the Live OS (F12) on an USB stick. It has
run now for some 8 hours, and during the 2nd pass I got an error message:

Tst: 7
Pass: 2
Failing address: 7ba7454 - 123.6MB
Good: 2aa1e9b
Bad: 0aa1e19b
Err-Bits: 2000
Count: 1
Chan:

This netbook came with a factory-installed 2GB SIMM. Am I now justified in
returning it to Acer as defective?

Probably, but I think I would contact the vendor first. I suspect that with the 
proof of problem you have they would rather replace just the memory.


After that you decide what your personal ratio of time to money is, particularly 
if you were going to add another 2GB anyway. And if you bought it at Staples or 
similar where they do simple repairs, they *may* stand behind it and do the 
repair as good will.


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Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Wohlgemuth

On 12/21/2009 02:16 PM, Colin Brace wrote:

Hi all,

I installed F12 on an Asus Eee 1101HA. Apart from the Intel GMA 500
("Poulbos") video driver, I have gotten most things working, but I am
troubled by frequent system freezes, sometimes literally within minutes of
booting.

I can't really help with your memory issue, but unless you plan on
coding your own X driver, you will probably want to stick to F11 since
it has a functioning Poulbos driver available from RPM Fusion:

http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/

It's been working great for me on an Acer A0751h-1401. I'm cannot tell
you how frustrated with Intel I am over the GMA-500. It used to be that
video was the one thing I never worried about when purchasing a new
Linux system: I'd just look for Intel and I'd be fine. I understand
that Intel has a lot of moving parts internally, so this is no one
person's call, but the difference between being able to count on them
all the time and being able to count on them almost all the time is
immense, and I can't believe they have bungled this so badly so far.

Anyway, if anyone has any concrete information about people (Intel or
otherwise) working on an open driver for this chipset, I'd love know
about it. I'd contribute however I can.

Woogie

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-21 Thread Robert Nichols


Mikkel wrote:

On 12/20/2009 09:00 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:

You're right, my hasty extrapolations were wrong. But I don't believe
you can get a Flash drive working that will be listed only as /dev/sdb
any more than you can have a HD working with only /dev/sda. I have no
idea about arrays, I'm talking about standard desktops with one drive.


Under Linux, you can do both. While you will be asked if that is
what you really want to do, the tools are happy to let you. Mount
has no problems mounting /dev/sda if you have formatted /dev/sda.
(Apposed to formatting /dev/sda1). Windows may not like it, but that
is another story.


Putting a filesystem on the entire, unpartitioned device is referred
to as "super floppy" or "superfloppy" format.  It's been around, and
supported, since the days of ZIP disks.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB


Marcel Rieux wrote:

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Bill Davidsen 

If you remember well, I said I formatted the drive by right clicking
on the icon.  If you format sdb, an sdb1 partition will be created. If
you don't have a partition, the drive can't be used.


Whatever gave you that idea?


As I said, I right clicked on the drive, chose Format and now there's
an sdb1 partition and no other. I never created it otherwise.

I assume "right click" implies you did this with some GUI tool which did what it 
thought you should do instead of what you asked it to do. I have no experience 
using such, and what experience I have with others using them is only when 
people ask "what did this do?" When it works I don't hear about it. ;-)


Can't really help with GUI tools, sorry.


A file system is on a device, partitions are devices too. Try "ls -l
/dev/sda*" and look at the first letter, all block devices.


You're right, my hasty extrapolations were wrong. But I don't believe
you can get a Flash drive working that will be listed only as /dev/sdb
any more than you can have a HD working with only /dev/sda. I have no
idea about arrays, I'm talking about standard desktops with one drive.

Or, so do I think, cause I've always created  / and /home partitions with Linux.


As I'm sure others will tell you, sure you can.
  mke2fs /dev/sdb
  {tell it yes, do what you asked}
  mkdir -p /tmp/sdb && mount /dev/sdb /tmp/sdb
  df

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB


Marcel Rieux wrote:

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Mikkel  wrote:

On 12/20/2009 06:46 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:

If you remember well, I said I formatted the drive by right clicking
on the icon.  If you format sdb, an sdb1 partition will be created. If
you don't have a partition, the drive can't be used.


You can format a drive without a partition table, and still
format/use it. I am not sure if it would get automatically mounted,
but it does work. A partition table, and partition will NOT be
created for you. Also, you can have a drive with one partition
without that partition being partition 1. ZIP disks were famous for
this. For a log time, DOS formatted ZIP disks used partition 4.


The man page does say:

e2fsck - check a Linux ext2/ext3/ext4 file system

A file system is not a device. So, the filesystem -- here sdb1 -- must
be specified.


Note: I answered Bill Davidsen first.


You
can use an entire drive, or a partition on a drive, as a tar
archive. (tar -cvf /dev/sdb /home/mikkel)


Then, I have no idea where the /sdb1 partition comes from. I also have
a lost and found directory on that drive.

A thumb drive comes with a single partition, and reformatting that partition as 
ext3 still leaves the partition table intact. The operative word in what I wrote 
is "can" do it either way, what you have is fine, but if you had no partitions 
that wouldn't mean that the drive was unusable.


Since the mount point is "BK" it's likely that somehow you used that as a label 
for putting the ext filesystem on the partition.


As for using the whole drive to hold a tar:
  tar cf /dev/sda /home
works, although
  tar cf - /home | gzip -8 >/dev/sda
lets you put more on the media. I would not guess if the CPU time to compress is 
more or less than the write time for the uncompressed data.


Since you have room for everything, I would suggest that rsync is a good 
solution, it will back up only what changes. Archives are nice but you are 
likely to want to pull an individual file out from time to time.



Here's an ls:


ls -al /media/BK/
total 208
drwx--.  5 marcel marcel   4096 2009-12-20 20:58 .
drwxr-xr-x.  3 root root   4096 2009-12-20 22:07 ..
drwx--.  2 root root  16384 2009-11-25 02:06 lost+found
drwxrwxr-x. 16 marcel marcel   4096 2009-12-18 00:53 bk
-rw-rw-r--.  1 marcel marcel 172509 2009-12-20 20:58
screenshot_pref_applications_firefox.jpg
drwx--.  4 marcel marcel   4096 2009-12-10 01:58 .Trash-500




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Re: RFE? Or am I wasting my time?

2009-12-21 Thread Alan Evans

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Sam Sharpe  wrote:
> It's in file-roller:

Thanks.

> I didn't actually notice until you pointed it out and while I don't
> actually care either way, your reasoning makes sense - which is a
> valid argument for an RFE.

Since I'm not automatically insane for noticing this I went ahead and
filed the RFE:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549501

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Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error

2009-12-21 Thread david lippincott

I kinda have the same problem I have the Asus UX50v and I found that if you
boot it from a different pixel such as 800x600 or what ever then it works.
Either that or it's hanging up on a driver install

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Colin Brace  wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I installed F12 on an Asus Eee 1101HA. Apart from the Intel GMA 500
> ("Poulbos") video driver, I have gotten most things working, but I am
> troubled by frequent system freezes, sometimes literally within minutes of
> booting.
>
> There are no error messages reported in the system log, so I am assuming it
> is a hardware problem.
>
> Just now I am running memtest from the Live OS (F12) on an USB stick. It
> has
> run now for some 8 hours, and during the 2nd pass I got an error message:
>
> Tst: 7
> Pass: 2
> Failing address: 7ba7454 - 123.6MB
> Good: 2aa1e9b
> Bad: 0aa1e19b
> Err-Bits: 2000
> Count: 1
> Chan:
>
> This netbook came with a factory-installed 2GB SIMM. Am I now justified in
> returning it to Acer as defective?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Colin
>
>
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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On 12/21/2009 12:16 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Mikkel  wrote:
>> Under Linux, you can do both. While you will be asked if that is
>> what you really want to do, the tools are happy to let you. Mount
>> has no problems mounting /dev/sda if you have formatted /dev/sda.
>> (Apposed to formatting /dev/sda1). Windows may not like it, but that
>> is another story.
> 
> Possible, if I ever reformat the drive, I'll remove all traces of
> partition with fdisk before.
> 
[r...@x86 extensions]# mke2fs /dev/sdg
mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
/dev/sdg is entire device, not just one partition!
Proceed anyway? (y,n) y
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=1024 (log=0)
Fragment size=1024 (log=0)
15680 inodes, 62720 blocks
3136 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=1
Maximum filesystem blocks=64225280
8 block groups
8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group
1960 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
8193, 24577, 40961, 57345

Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done

This filesystem will be automatically checked every 34 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.

[r...@x86 extensions]# e2label /dev/sdg test

[r...@x86 extensions]# mount | grep /dev/sdg
/dev/sdg on /media/test type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit)

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Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again

2009-12-21 Thread Sam Sharpe

2009/12/20 Timothy Murphy :
> I'm taking the liberty of re-posting this query,
> as there seemed some problems with the previous posting,
> hopefully now resolved:
>
> Has anyone actually succeeded in booting Fedora-12
> from the DVD ISO file on the hard disk,
> by adding a stanza to grub.conf ?
>
> I carried out the following commands:
> -
> [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mkdir /mnt/Fedora
> [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mount -o loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora/

So that means Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso is in /home/tim/

> Now when I boot into this, all goes well
> until I try to install from Fedora-12*.iso when I the error
> "Device /dev/sda6 does not appear to contain
> an installation image".
>
> Am I doing something wrong?

I don't know for certain, but the only time I've ever tried this was
on RHEL and the ISO file had to be on the root of the partition. So I
think that means you should try moving it to
/home/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso on the assumption that /dev/sda6 is /home

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Re: chromium from spot crashes

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Cloaked




Neal Becker wrote:
> 
>  Since today's update to 
> chromium-4.0.273.0-0.1.20091216svn34775.fc12.x86_64
> 
> chromium-browser crashes on every startup.  Where to report?
> 
> 

I found I had an SElinux issue but as root I did:
chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/chromium-browser/*.so

then restarting chromium and it worked OK...
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Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again

2009-12-21 Thread jackson byers

 Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I'm taking the liberty of re-posting this query, as there seemed some
> problems with the previous posting, hopefully now resolved:
>
> Has anyone actually succeeded in booting Fedora-12 from the DVD ISO file
> on the hard disk, by adding a stanza to grub.conf ?
>
> I carried out the following commands: -
> [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mkdir /mnt/Fedora [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mount -o
> loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora/ [...@alfred ~]$ ls
> /mnt/Fedora/isolinux/ boot.cat  boot.msg  grub.conf  initrd.img
> isolinux.bin isolinux.cfg  splash.jpg  TRANS.TBL  vesamenu.c32  vmlinuz
> [...@alfred ~]$ ls /mnt/Fedora/images/ efiboot.img  efidisk.img
> install.img  pxeboot  README  TRANS.TBL [...@alfred ~]$ mkdir images
> [...@alfred ~]$ cp -a /mnt/Fedora/images/install.img images/ [...@alfred
> ~]$ sudo mkdir /boot/Fedora-12 [...@alfred ~]$ sudo cp -a
> /mnt/Fedora/isolinux/* /boot/Fedora-12/ -
>
> This is the entry I have added to /etc/grub.conf :
> -
> title Upgrade to Fedora-12
> root (hd0,1)
> kernel /Fedora-12/vmlinuz ro
> initrd /Fedora-12/initrd.img
> -
>
> Now when I boot into this, all goes well until I try to install from
> Fedora-12*.iso when I the error "Device /dev/sda6 does not appear to
> contain an installation image".
>
> Am I doing something wrong?

You don't give enough detail.
What you have shown I think looks ok
(would have to check old notes to be sure)
The missing information is just what exactly did you enter into
the anaconda gui.

I have no f12 experience, but
in my successful f11 hard disk install
I did this two ways
1) using repo= option in kernel line:

#title Install Fedora 11   repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso   reordr
#root ...
#kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz noselinux  repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso
#initrd /boot/f11/initrd.img

2)not using the repo= option

#title Install Fedora 11  h NO repo=
#root ..
#kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz noselinux
#initrd /boot/f11/initrd.img
#here I have to pick /dev/sdb1  and /root/diso for directory

you enter these in the anaconda gui.
The leading slash "/"   in  /root/diso is essential.

This is documented on the fedora site somewhere;
the leading slash requirement started with f10.
Are you operating from f11? or earlier?

The entire process for hard disk install,
including detailed instructions for the images directory,
was subject of a long thread Mike Cloaked and Tom Horsley,
I think in Nov 2008, including a bugzilla re the leading slash.
I don't have that bugzilla ref right now.

If my experience is any guide, if you follow the
instructions in that ref, it should just work.

Jack

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Re: Annoyance Re: Gnotes ?!?

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram

On 12/20/2009 08:10 PM, William Case wrote:
> Hi;
> 
> I have replaced TomBoy (which I used throughout the day) with Gnote.
> 
> I want to set Gnote in my startup file so that it starts with the icon
> in the notification bar but the search window NOT open.
> 
> I can get what I want when I start gnote from Panel Menu => Applications
> => Accessories but not from "Startup Applications".  gnote --help nor
> the Configuration Editor give me any options for starting without the
> search window automatically opening at startup.  I also end up with two
> instances of gnote running. Locate doesn't seem to show me a *rc file or
> a configuration file in /home or /etc.
> 
> Any suggestions ?

Use the applet instead of auto-starting the application on login. It
works better.  Right click, Add to Panel => Gnote.

Rahul

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asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error

2009-12-21 Thread Colin Brace


Hi all,

I installed F12 on an Asus Eee 1101HA. Apart from the Intel GMA 500
("Poulbos") video driver, I have gotten most things working, but I am
troubled by frequent system freezes, sometimes literally within minutes of
booting.

There are no error messages reported in the system log, so I am assuming it
is a hardware problem.

Just now I am running memtest from the Live OS (F12) on an USB stick. It has
run now for some 8 hours, and during the 2nd pass I got an error message:

Tst: 7
Pass: 2
Failing address: 7ba7454 - 123.6MB
Good: 2aa1e9b
Bad: 0aa1e19b
Err-Bits: 2000
Count: 1
Chan:

This netbook came with a factory-installed 2GB SIMM. Am I now justified in
returning it to Acer as defective?

Thanks,

-Colin


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Re: Annoyance Re: Gnotes ?!?

2009-12-21 Thread Alan Evans

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Aaron Konstam  wrote:
> When you right click on a panel and the choose to dd to Panel, one of
> the things you can add is gnote. This appears as a yellow icon in gnome,
> unopened. No search window appears until you click on the gnote icon.

But putting a launcher in the panel is not the same as automatically
starting GNote when logging in.

I am annoyed by this also. Launching GNote from the menu simply puts
the GNote icon in the notification area. Starting it by adding it to
the session startup apps starts it with the search dialog visible.
(And I'm not sure how to get rid of that search dialog without
quitting and restarting GNote.)

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Re: RFE? Or am I wasting my time?

2009-12-21 Thread Sam Sharpe

2009/12/21 Alan Evans :
> So I thought to file a RFE about it except:
>
> What component would it be against? Its location in the menu suggests
> that it's some sort of Nautilus extension, but I can't figure what
> package its in.

It's in file-roller:

[...@samlap Desktop]$ rpm -qif
/usr/lib64/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so
Name: file-roller  Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.28.1Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 2.fc12Build Date: Fri 30 Oct
2009 03:38:18 GMT
Install Date: Sat 31 Oct 2009 13:14:05 GMT  Build Host:
x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Group   : Applications/ArchivingSource RPM:
file-roller-2.28.1-2.fc12.src.rpm
Size: 4827862  License: GPLv2+
Signature   : (none)
Packager: Fedora Project
URL : http://download.gnome.org/sources/file-roller/
Summary : Tool for viewing and creating archives
Description :
File Roller is an application for creating and viewing archives files,
such as tar or zip files.

> Am I the only person in the world that cares? I mean, would it just be
> a waste of time for my to file a RFE that's inevitably going to be
> ignored or closed NOTABUG?

I didn't actually notice until you pointed it out and while I don't
actually care either way, your reasoning makes sense - which is a
valid argument for an RFE.

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Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...

On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 19:25 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> Finally got the go ahead to create two Linux courses to our College
> program. Have included Linux in my lab since Redhat 9 thru the current
> Fedora 12, but have just been able to show students little bits of it
> from time to time, since the program is geared to mostly windows and
> some courses using AS/400 mini system. 
> 
> The Ideal is to over a beginning Linux course, and an second level
> course as a start. In the networking class, I have one 4 hour section
> where the students go thru the installation of various Linux OS's,
> and they can use the Fedora, but many students still stay with
> windows.

It seems obtuse, to me, to have installing an OS as part of a networking
course.  Considering that people do courses to learn something in
particular, I wouldn't mix and match.  A beginners guide to something
ought to be about using it in a general manner (what it is, what makes
Linux different from Windows, how to do basic tasks).  Installing would
be something else, likewise with networking.

There'd be plenty of people who could do one of those things, but not
the other, and that's what they want to learn.  I've tried to help
people who've gone on a computing course, only to see them struggling
with (a) stuff that's irrelevant to what they need, and (b) stuff that's
just plain wrong.  The second one's probably hardest to deal with,
because they have to pass a course, and I can't teach someone to learn
something that's broken in the lecturer's head.

If you can't find what's needed by beginners (e.g. how to use OpenOffice
instead of Office, how to search the internet, etc.) ahead of time, then
you could offer sub-courses, and see what people elect.

Personally, I'm highly reluctant to go for any more training.  Years of
being a student, and teaching students, has made me thoroughly sick of
having my time wasted (stuff you don't need to learn, bad teaching, and
no return for effort - e.g. going on 4 years full time, or 8 years of
night time study, to earn $20 a week more than someone who hasn't done
that course).

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Re: What's that utility to monitor disk i/o again?

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>>  mount a /sys/kernel/debug -t debugfs
> [...]
>> All references at Google's, only 9 of them, say "mount a". How come
>> it's not "mount -a"
>
> "a" is the device containing the filesystem. For this kind of filesystem
> it is unused so you can put everything there (the same happens for tmpfs,
> proc, sysfs, devpts).
>
>>    1. Manually mount after each boot:
>>
>>       % mount -t debugfs debugfs /sys/kernel/debug
>
> In this case the second "debugfs" could have been "a" or whatever
> else.

I see. Thanks!

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Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:

> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/455852

I forgot to add that there's an ongoing discussion on the matter at
this URL. It might be of interest to you. even technically. See also:

http://tarek.org/cbc/index.phps

http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36544958/index.php

But, if this script ever worked, it doesn't anymore and it can in no
way be considered a permanent solution, of course.

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Re: RFE? Or am I wasting my time?

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 09:45 -0800, Alan Evans wrote:
> Am I the only person in the world that cares? I mean, would it just be
> a waste of time for my to file a RFE that's inevitably going to be
> ignored or closed NOTABUG?

I agree with your assessment.  Unless it is actually going to compress
the file you're right clicking on, i.e. it's going to be replaced with a
compressed version, then the naming is wrong.

Making an archive of a copy of the file isn't compressing it.  And
there's any number of files that cannot be shrunk, and will actually
create a larger file when you try to compress them.

The name of the action should be unambiguous in what it does, and not
dependent on having something else explain it.  Having to read a man
file for a GUI action, under these circumstances, is inappropriate.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Mikkel  wrote:
> On 12/20/2009 09:00 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>>
>> You're right, my hasty extrapolations were wrong. But I don't believe
>> you can get a Flash drive working that will be listed only as /dev/sdb
>> any more than you can have a HD working with only /dev/sda. I have no
>> idea about arrays, I'm talking about standard desktops with one drive.
>>
> Under Linux, you can do both. While you will be asked if that is
> what you really want to do, the tools are happy to let you. Mount
> has no problems mounting /dev/sda if you have formatted /dev/sda.
> (Apposed to formatting /dev/sda1). Windows may not like it, but that
> is another story.

Possible, if I ever reformat the drive, I'll remove all traces of
partition with fdisk before.

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Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>> If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that
>> would complete this thread.
>>
> More FWIW
>
> CBC uses the embedded video software call UberPlayer.  This software
> doesn't support Linux.
>
> PBS (http://www.pbs.org) uses their own PBSPlayer.swf and it does
> support Linux.
>
> Too bad CBC has decided to source their player from a vendor that
> doesn't value Linux customers.

It's done on purpose. Watching videos at the CBC/Radio-Canada with
Linux has been a problem from day one. The excuse is:

Message from PaulNorth written on 2009-12-07 at Launchpad:

It would not seem to be a technical problem at all

I emailed CBC on behalf of us Linux users, and I got this reply.

"Dear Paul,

We have checked with our technical staff, and unfortunately, as you
point out, the new Flash player we are installing does not work on
Linux systems. However it
does work on almost all other systems, including Windows and Mac. The
number of systems that could not see the video in our new player is
likely around the 1%
or less range.

We are not in a position to develop any workaround that would prevent
revenue from being generated when users watch video on cbc.ca. Funding
for CBC from
the government of Canada has not been growing, and the funds from
Parliament (less than $40 per Canadian taxpayer per year) only cover
part of the Corporations
broadcasting operations. I'm sorry you did not get an earlier response
from CBC."

Parker Bishop
Communication Assistant
CBC Audience Relations

So, this seems to mean that - as a matter of policy, they refuse to
"develop any workaround" unless they can make money from it.

I sense the cold, grasping hand of our ideologically hysterical
Conservative government in this.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/455852
==

When i wrote to the CEO of the CBC, the excuse was the same: budget.
So I referred him to videos on the site of the Passionate Eye that
didn't use the so-called "console": they played perfectly, but now,
they not available, unless through the console, and they don't play
anymore.

So, my advice is: in the word workaround, there's the word "work" and,
usually, it's just too much work. So don't spend too much time on it.

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Re: How to uninstall kmod-nvidia

2009-12-21 Thread Neal Becker

Also, there is a new xorg-x11 in updates-testing.  Working for me.

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Re: Entry for gnome-system-log in bugzilla ?

2009-12-21 Thread Eric Tanguy


Le 21/12/2009 18:06, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :

On 12/21/2009 10:18 PM, Eric Tanguy wrote:
   

I can't find where to report bug against gnome-system-log ?
Thanks
Eric
 

Bugzilla lists source RPM names.

# rpm -qf /usr/bin/gnome-system-log

gnome-system-log

# rpm -qi gnome-system-log shows that gnome-utils is the srpm.
Therefore, report it to

http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/gnome-utils

Rahul

   

Thanks but it's not very easy ...
Eric

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chromium from spot crashes

2009-12-21 Thread Neal Becker

 Since today's update to 
chromium-4.0.273.0-0.1.20091216svn34775.fc12.x86_64

chromium-browser crashes on every startup.  Where to report?

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RFE? Or am I wasting my time?

2009-12-21 Thread Alan Evans

Ok, I proceed fully knowing that, from here on, I will carry a
reputation as a senseless pedant. But this kind of stuff drives me
nuts.

In the transition from F11 to F12, the context menu in Nautilus lost
"Create Archive" and gained "Compress" in its place. I want the old
menu item back, which is not only clearer of meaning (in my opinion),
but objectively more correct and accurate. The term Compress suggests
that some change is being made to the file, like foo.txt being
replaced by foo.txt.gz. In fact, what I'm doing is creating an
archive, that may or may not be compressed, and leaving the original
file alone. I know what it's going to do, but the terminology feels
clumsy nonetheless, and reminds me of the Microsoft-style rush to dumb
down language throughout the system that seems to pervade Linux
distros nowadays.

So I thought to file a RFE about it except:

What component would it be against? Its location in the menu suggests
that it's some sort of Nautilus extension, but I can't figure what
package its in.

How does one make a bugzilla an RFE? Do I just prefix "RFE" to the summary?

Am I the only person in the world that cares? I mean, would it just be
a waste of time for my to file a RFE that's inevitably going to be
ignored or closed NOTABUG?

-Alan

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Re: How to uninstall kmod-nvidia

2009-12-21 Thread steven bellens

2009/12/21 Mauriat Miranda :
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Rich Emberson  
> wrote:
>> Installed fedora 12 on laptop. The default nvidia driver,
>> nouveau worked fine but previously on laptop I had
>> fedora 9 with nvidia driver so I figured I could just
>> do it again.
>> Following instructions from:
>> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html
>> go nvidia driver installed.
>> Problems: The panel "Kickstart Application launcher"
>> when clicked now causes 100% X process CPU usage for
>> 10 to 15 seconds before coming up (same with clicking a
>> couple of the other widgets like the calendar).

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533620 , the fix from Rex
Dieter fixed the problem for me.

regards,

Steven

>>
>> So, how does one uninstall kmod-nvidia?
>>
>> In a previous post I asked for help to fix the problem,
>> now I'd just like to go back to the nouveau driver.
>
> Worth looking at:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#Problems_when_using_KDE_with_the_proprietary_NVIDIA_graphics_driver.2C_some_Radeon_dual-head_configurations.2C_or_nouveau_with_KMS_disabled
>
> To uninstall as root, run:
>
> # yum remove kmod-nvidia
>
>
> -Mauriat
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Re: kmod-nvidia some actions X 100% CPU

2009-12-21 Thread Gilboa Davara

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 06:21 -0800, Rich Emberson wrote:
> Need to fix kmod-nvidia or uninstall it. 
> 
> This weekend installed fedora 12 on laptop replacing 
> fedora 9. 
> Laptop has a GeForce 9600M GT nvidia card. 
> With fedora 9, used kmod with no problems. 
> After initial install, using the default nouveau 
> worked. 
> Following: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html 
> installed kmod-nvidia. 
> edited grub.conf adding "rdblacklist=nouveau" to end of 
> kernel line. 
> edited /etc/sysconfig/livna-config-display - it already had 
> active = True. 
> 
> rebooted. 
> Running Kde many things work with kmod-nvidia but 
> now when the "kickoff application launcher" is clicked, 
> the CPU goes to 100% all in the the X process. After about 
> 15 second, the launcher menu is displayed and can be used. 
> So, I'd like to know either how to fix this or how I can 
> uninstall kmod-nvidia and go back to the nouveau driver. 
> 
> Thanks

Known issue.
An Xorg fix broken nVidia binary drivers.

Follow the solution in this [1] bug. (Requires installing the latest
Xorg from koji [or update testing - not sure it's there yet])

- Gilboa
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533620


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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On 12/20/2009 09:00 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> 
> You're right, my hasty extrapolations were wrong. But I don't believe
> you can get a Flash drive working that will be listed only as /dev/sdb
> any more than you can have a HD working with only /dev/sda. I have no
> idea about arrays, I'm talking about standard desktops with one drive.
> 
Under Linux, you can do both. While you will be asked if that is
what you really want to do, the tools are happy to let you. Mount
has no problems mounting /dev/sda if you have formatted /dev/sda.
(Apposed to formatting /dev/sda1). Windows may not like it, but that
is another story.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On 12/20/2009 09:20 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> 
> Then, I have no idea where the /sdb1 partition comes from. I also have
> a lost and found directory on that drive.
> 
You said it was formatted for windows before - most sticks that come
formatted for windows have a partition for the FAT wile system. So
it was probably already there, and you re-formatted it.

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Re: Entry for gnome-system-log in bugzilla ?

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram

On 12/21/2009 10:18 PM, Eric Tanguy wrote:
> I can't find where to report bug against gnome-system-log ?
> Thanks
> Eric

Bugzilla lists source RPM names.

# rpm -qf /usr/bin/gnome-system-log

gnome-system-log

# rpm -qi gnome-system-log shows that gnome-utils is the srpm.
Therefore, report it to

http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/gnome-utils

Rahul

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Chris Smart  wrote:

> The only other thing I have to say is that when you copy your tarball
> to the stick, make sure you run:
> sync
>
> and then do a checksum comparison.

For the time being, I only have ~1.7 GB of data to back-up. So I copy
the whole /home directory, except the video directory, which are
videos that I can find on the net anytime and are not important.

I'll have to learn how to do incremental back-ups with rdiff or
rsync... God knows.

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Re: SELinux security alert

2009-12-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh

On 12/19/2009 02:06 PM, vinny wrote:
> Hello,
> I installed F12 in 2 desktop no problem both working perfectly.
> lately one has developed this security problem, it suggest to rename a
> file as a possible cure, I do not understand how can a file change name
> by it self. So before I make a mess of things I better ask for help.
> Vinny 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access
> to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> [find has a permissive type (prelink_cron_system_t). This access was not
> denied.]
> 
> SELinux denied access requested by find. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full may
> be a
> mislabeled. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full default SELinux type is
> prelink_var_lib_t,
> but its current type is cron_var_lib_t. Changing this file back to the
> default
> type, may fix your problem.
> 
> File contexts can be assigned to a file in the following ways.
> 
>   * Files created in a directory receive the file context of the parent
> directory by default.
>   * The SELinux policy might override the default label inherited from
> the
> parent directory by specifying a process running in context A which
> creates
> a file in a directory labeled B will instead create the file with
> label C.
> An example of this would be the dhcp client running with the
> dhclient_t type
> and creating a file in the directory /etc. This file would normally
> receive
> the etc_t type due to parental inheritance but instead the file is
> labeled
> with the net_conf_t type because the SELinux policy specifies this.
>   * Users can change the file context on a file using tools such as
> chcon, or
> restorecon.
> 
> This file could have been mislabeled either by user error, or if an
> normally
> confined application was run under the wrong domain.
> 
> However, this might also indicate a bug in SELinux because the file
> should not
> have been labeled with this type.
> 
> If you believe this is a bug, please file a bug report against this
> package.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> You can restore the default system context to this file by executing the
> restorecon command. restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full', if this
> file is a
> directory, you can recursively restore using restorecon -R
> '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full'.
> 
> Fix Command:
> 
> /sbin/restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full'
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context
> system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c
>   1023
> Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0
> Target Objects/var/lib/misc/prelink.full [ file ]
> Sourcefind
> Source Path   /bin/find
> Port  
> Host  localhost.localdomain
> Source RPM Packages   findutils-4.4.2-4.fc12
> Target RPM Packages   prelink-0.4.2-4.fc12
> Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.6.32-55.fc12
> Selinux Enabled   True
> Policy Type   targeted
> Enforcing ModeEnforcing
> Plugin Name   restorecon
> Host Name localhost.localdomain
> Platform  Linux localhost.localdomain
>   2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Dec
> 9
>   11:00:30 EST 2009 i686 i686
> Alert Count   4
> First SeenSat 12 Dec 2009 07:32:14 AM EST
> Last Seen Sat 19 Dec 2009 01:45:15 PM EST
> Local ID  e5732596-f308-439c-9920-c4a394f95061
> Line Numbers  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1261248315.138:22): avc:
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=2950 comm="find"
> path="/var/lib/misc/prelink.full" dev=dm-0 ino=2402
> scontext=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=file
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1261248315.138:22):
> arch=4003 syscall=300 success=yes exit=0 a0=ff9c a1=8594704
> a2=85946a4 a3=100 items=0 ppid=2949 pid=2950 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0
> suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=2 comm="find"
> exe="/bin/find"
> subj=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
> 
> 
> 
> 

Fixed in selinux-policy-3.6.32-59.fc12.noarch
yum update selinux-policy-targeted --enablerepo=updatest-testing

I believe this is now fixed in this release.

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Entry for gnome-system-log in bugzilla ?

2009-12-21 Thread Eric Tanguy


I can't find where to report bug against gnome-system-log ?
Thanks
Eric

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Re: Google Earth locks up system

On 12/21/2009 10:53 AM, Steven Stern wrote:
> Since I'm not sure when, Google Earth completely locks up my system,
> requiring a power cycle to restart.  I see the splash screen, the it
> starts to display a tip-of-the-day, then plonk. System locked.
> 
> I have an old ATI card
> 
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60
> [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
> 
> using the standard radeon driver.
> 
> There are no messages regarding the crash/lock in /var/log/messages. The
> crash does not seem to be related to compiz.

The crash is well known, and has been around for a long time (since at
least FC6).  AFAIK, there are no plans to fix it.  You could try the
radeonhd driver or run one of the ATI proprietary drivers (fglrx or
catalyst, but I never had any luck with them, and I'm not sure if they
work with F12 yet or not).  GoogleEarth really wants to use your cards
3D support and for ATI it is broken.  The result is a hard lockup of
your X session/keyboard/mouse/system.  Your system is borked.  You can't
even ssh into it.

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Re: How to uninstall kmod-nvidia

2009-12-21 Thread Mauriat Miranda

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Rich Emberson  wrote:
> Installed fedora 12 on laptop. The default nvidia driver,
> nouveau worked fine but previously on laptop I had
> fedora 9 with nvidia driver so I figured I could just
> do it again.
> Following instructions from:
> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html
> go nvidia driver installed.
> Problems: The panel "Kickstart Application launcher"
> when clicked now causes 100% X process CPU usage for
> 10 to 15 seconds before coming up (same with clicking a
> couple of the other widgets like the calendar).
>
> So, how does one uninstall kmod-nvidia?
>
> In a previous post I asked for help to fix the problem,
> now I'd just like to go back to the nouveau driver.

Worth looking at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#Problems_when_using_KDE_with_the_proprietary_NVIDIA_graphics_driver.2C_some_Radeon_dual-head_configurations.2C_or_nouveau_with_KMS_disabled

To uninstall as root, run:

# yum remove kmod-nvidia


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Google Earth locks up system

2009-12-21 Thread Steven Stern

Since I'm not sure when, Google Earth completely locks up my system,
requiring a power cycle to restart.  I see the splash screen, the it
starts to display a tip-of-the-day, then plonk. System locked.

I have an old ATI card

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60
[Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]

using the standard radeon driver.

There are no messages regarding the crash/lock in /var/log/messages. The
crash does not seem to be related to compiz.


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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-21 Thread Andrew Haley

DB wrote:
> On 12/21/2009 12:45 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> DB wrote:
>>
>>> The reason I went with  tar tvh was (to try) to check the contents of
>>> the file after "open with ark" in Dollphin spat out the errors.  I guess
>>> that actually trying to extract the files when the table of contents
>>> fails would not be any more successful?
>>>  
>> Run
>>
>>md5sum F11_Home_Dave_20091217.tar.gz
>>
>> on both machines.
>> If you get two different results, something bad is happening.
>>
>>
> Ah that gives 2 entirely different 32-digit numbers
> 
> on the F11 desktop
> cee716a79cc7af0ee8f5f2613ca50578
> 
> and on the F12 laptop
> 802d5ea893af6f936e77b81cf00a45fb
> 
> Rusult of uname -ar on each:
> Desktop
> Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Dec 3 23:46:37 EST 
> 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> Laptop
> Linux Fedora_Toshi 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 11:14:59 EST 
> 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion Roberto.  where to next?

Copy the file back.  See if it changes.  Find out where the difference is
with cmp.

Andrew.

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How to uninstall kmod-nvidia

2009-12-21 Thread Rich Emberson

Installed fedora 12 on laptop. The default nvidia driver,
nouveau worked fine but previously on laptop I had
fedora 9 with nvidia driver so I figured I could just
do it again.
Following instructions from:
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html
go nvidia driver installed.
Problems: The panel "Kickstart Application launcher"
when clicked now causes 100% X process CPU usage for
10 to 15 seconds before coming up (same with clicking a
couple of the other widgets like the calendar).

So, how does one uninstall kmod-nvidia?

In a previous post I asked for help to fix the problem,
now I'd just like to go back to the nouveau driver.

Thanks

Richard
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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-21 Thread T. Horsnell




On 12/21/2009 12:45 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

DB wrote:
  

The reason I went with  tar tvh was (to try) to check the contents of
the file after "open with ark" in Dollphin spat out the errors.  I guess
that actually trying to extract the files when the table of contents
fails would not be any more successful?
 

Run

   md5sum F11_Home_Dave_20091217.tar.gz

on both machines.
If you get two different results, something bad is happening.

   

Ah that gives 2 entirely different 32-digit numbers

on the F11 desktop
cee716a79cc7af0ee8f5f2613ca50578

and on the F12 laptop
802d5ea893af6f936e77b81cf00a45fb

Rusult of uname -ar on each:
Desktop
Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Dec 3 23:46:37 EST 
2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux


Laptop
Linux Fedora_Toshi 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 11:14:59 EST 
2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


Thanks for the suggestion Roberto.  where to next?

Dave



Are the two files the same size?
Did you do the copy via a memory stick?
If so, did you 'unmount' the memory stick on the source
machine before unplugging it?

Cheers,
Terry

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Re: Sunbird Calendar Broken

2009-12-21 Thread Randolph Langley




On 12/16/2009 07:55 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 00:32:55 -0800,
   Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:
   

I have just installed the latest sunbird, namely
sunbird-1.0-0.11.20090715hg.fc11.x86_64
When started, it shows two error boxes and no calendar information.
The error boxes read:
 

Take a look at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542736

I posted a work around that seems to be working for my preexisting local
calendar by munging the data version id.

   



Thanks for that link; I was able to use the sqlite modifications in 
comment #5 to fix this problem.






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Re: Annoyance Re: Gnotes ?!? -- [Solved]

2009-12-21 Thread William Case

Hi Aaron;

Thanks for the reply.  My Fedora users maillist is running about a day
late again so I haven't received your response yet, but read it by going
directly to the archives.

On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 09:40 -0500, William Case wrote:
> Hi;
> 
> I have replaced TomBoy (which I used throughout the day) with Gnote.
> 
> I want to set Gnote in my startup file so that it starts with the icon
> in the notification bar but the search window NOT open.
> 
> I can get what I want when I start gnote from Panel Menu => Applications
> => Accessories but not from "Startup Applications".  gnote --help nor
> the Configuration Editor give me any options for starting without the
> search window automatically opening at startup.  I also end up with two
> instances of gnote running. Locate doesn't seem to show me a *rc file or
> a configuration file in /home or /etc.
> 
> Any suggestions ?

Here is the series of events that caused the loss of the gnote applet.
I am responding so that if this happens to others, they have something
to try.  The short answer was, I found the applet by re-booting.

 1. I used Tomboy in F11.
 2. I upgraded from F11 => F12.
 3. Tomboy, of course, was not upgraded automatically.
 4. Gnote was not included to replace it as default because F12 was
not a new install.
 5. I yum removed Tomboy and yum installed Gnote.
 6. The Gnote icon showed up in Panel Menu under Accessories, but
did not show under the applets drop down menu for "Add to
Panel".
 7. I screwed around trying to get the Gnote launcher onto my panel.
 8. I then wrote the above quoted post.
 9. Between then and reading Aaron's reply I re-booted for entirely
unrelated reasons.
10. After Aaron's suggestion, I looked again at "Add to Panel" and
there the icon was.
11. I added it to my panel and everything is working fine.

I hope this saves someone a bit of grief.

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Re: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora.

2009-12-21 Thread sandeep Patel

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Helder  wrote:

> Put in the /etc/yum.conf the following lines:
>
> proxy=http://:
> proxy_username=
> proxy_password=
>
> then execute as root: # yum update
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>
>> 2009/12/21 sandeep Patel :
>>
>> > I tried this.But still it is showing error.Please help me someone.what
>> the
>> > hell is going on fedora 12.
>> > Already thanks.
>>
>> Can you please post the exact line that you typed into your yum.conf?
>>
>> -c
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Re: Disable "Personal File Sharing" prompt in Download folder

2009-12-21 Thread Michael Cronenworth


milen228 wrote:

To disable the prompt, remove the file: 
/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-share-extension.so  which is the 
extention for Nutilus that add this prompt.



That is not a solution. I want to be able to send/receive bluetooth'd files.

It looks like I will have to patch and create a custom RPM because the 
RH maintainer and upstream do not seem to care about changing how this 
works. They cared a lot about some random person's request to add this 
silly text, but now they shrug off any attempts at changing it.


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kmod-nvidia some actions X 100% CPU

2009-12-21 Thread Rich Emberson

Need to fix kmod-nvidia or uninstall it.

This weekend installed fedora 12 on laptop replacing
fedora 9.
Laptop has a GeForce 9600M GT nvidia card.
With fedora 9, used kmod with no problems.
After initial install, using the default nouveau
worked.
Following: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html
installed kmod-nvidia.
edited grub.conf adding "rdblacklist=nouveau" to end of
kernel line.
edited /etc/sysconfig/livna-config-display - it already had
active = True.

rebooted.
Running Kde many things work with kmod-nvidia but
now when the "kickoff application launcher" is clicked,
the CPU goes to 100% all in the the X process. After about
15 second, the launcher menu is displayed and can be used.
So, I'd like to know either how to fix this or how I can
uninstall kmod-nvidia and go back to the nouveau driver.

Thanks

Richard
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Re: Compiz issue

2009-12-21 Thread suvayu ali

2009/12/21 James Allsopp :
> Hi,
> I'm trying to find the controller for the compiz effect thatfits all the
> windows into the screen so you can select one. This currently triggers on
> the top-right corner, how can I change this. Got too used to having my
> volume control there.
>
> Can someone explain the difference between compiz and compiz-fusion. The
> fits seems to be installed as part of the F12 install, but has very limited
> options. I've tried install compiz-fusion, but it didn't seem to be
> listening to any of the settings in CompizConfig Settings Manager,
>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229

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WTF is wrong with thunderbird????

OK, so I'm an email hog.  I don't like to use the delete key.  Here's my
setup:

My email server is F10.i386  (yeah, yeah, I know its EOLed)
Its up-to-date, running dovecot as my IMAP server.

My laptop is F11.x86_64.  I'm running the new thunderbird 3.0 which was
just released.

My Inbox was getting very large.  > 70,000 messages in it.  While things
were starting to take a long time to do, yesterday I finally decided to
do something about it.  I created some 25 (or so) sub-folders in my
primary email account and set about transferring various emails from my
Inbox to the sub-folders.  For the most part, I created an email filter
for every email list I am a member of to automatically move emails from
each list to its own sub-folder.  It took me a while ( > 4 hours).  When
I was done it was working.  Kinda.  I noticed that I had started seeing
some really strange problems.

While reading my incoming fedora-list emails (for example), thunderbird
marked the email I was currently reading as un-read, right before my
eyes!  It also marked the 3 emails I had *just* read as unread.  While
going though that mailbox (using the Next button to read the next unread
email), I read some messages 3-4 times before it finally told me I had
read everything!

That's when I started to notice that all of a sudden I had 38 unread
emails in the mailbox I had read previous to the one I was in now.
When I went back to read them, most of them were familiar!  I had just
read them.  I wss going nuts.  What's happening?

This morning I st down to read my emails that occurred overnight.

Thunderbird tells me I have 38 unread emails in my Admin box.  When I go
there to read them, it tells me there are only 24 unread emails!  The
first one is dated 9/26/2009!  OK, so I read it.  I'm pretty sure I've
read it before  I continue to read the other 23 emails.  Then I hit
the Next button again, and here I am back at this email from 9/26 again!

While I'm writing this email, thunderbird now tells me I have 4 unread
emails in my Admin mailbox.

One of them is new.  The rest are dated:  5/4/2009, 9/26/2009 (yeup,
them same one I've read twice already today!), and 10/11/2009, and
10/11/2009.  That's right, while I was reading them, it decided to mark
another already read email as unread!

Am I going nuts   Oh, wait!  I have 4 unread email in Admin:
5/4/2009, 9/26/2009, and those 2 from 10/11/2009 again!

Now its happened again!  Please, someone tell me how to get thunderbird
to stop this madness!




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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-21 Thread DB


On 12/21/2009 12:45 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

DB wrote:
   

The reason I went with  tar tvh was (to try) to check the contents of
the file after "open with ark" in Dollphin spat out the errors.  I guess
that actually trying to extract the files when the table of contents
fails would not be any more successful?
 

Run

   md5sum F11_Home_Dave_20091217.tar.gz

on both machines.
If you get two different results, something bad is happening.

   

Ah that gives 2 entirely different 32-digit numbers

on the F11 desktop
cee716a79cc7af0ee8f5f2613ca50578

and on the F12 laptop
802d5ea893af6f936e77b81cf00a45fb

Rusult of uname -ar on each:
Desktop
Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Dec 3 23:46:37 EST 
2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux


Laptop
Linux Fedora_Toshi 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 11:14:59 EST 
2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


Thanks for the suggestion Roberto.  where to next?

Dave

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

Marcel Rieux
>> OTOH, when I formatted, I wasn't so sure that ext3 was much use on a
>> USB drive. I still don't know.
 
Aaron Konstam:
> In it is not muh use if you ever want to put it in a Wiindws machine.

There are drivers to read ext3 on Windows.  If you use both systems,
you'll have to weigh up which is the most convenient.  Native file
systems on Linux, which supports your normal permissions and ownership
file details.  Or a pathetic-featured file system that can be easily
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Re: volume keybindings

2009-12-21 Thread Steve Searle

Around 02:18am on Monday, December 21, 2009 (UK time), Amadeus W.M. scrawled:

> Sorry to say, but I had to uninstall pulseaudio yet again. So I'm back to 
> alsa and I feel much better. Except that my Page-up/down shortcuts 
> don't work anymore. I guess they used to control pulse volume. Does 
> anyone know how to bind the sound keyboard shortcuts to the alsa mixer? 
> I'm guessing I have to do something in gconf-editor, but I don't know the 
> magic words.

For Gnome, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts?

Steve

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Re: F12 NFS Failures

2009-12-21 Thread John Austin

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 00:39 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 11/24/2009 04:21 AM, John Austin wrote:
> >
> > Just tested my machine with UDP and TCP
> > This was using md5sum for about 10GB over the NFS mount
> >
> > 1. The default for F12/Centos5.4 appears to be TCP - which freezes
> > 2. Forcing UDP gives NO errors for 10GB transfer
> > 3. Forcing TCP gives a freeze
> >
> 
> I know this is an old thread, but I thought I'd toss in that you will 
> see symptoms very much like this if only one of your machines (probably 
> the NFS server) is configured to use jumbo frames.  You should check the 
> MTU on the server and client.
> 
Thanks for the idea
I have checked the host and the server, both are set to MTU of 1500

I then checked the switch (Netgear GS108T) this had jumbo frames enabled
Disabled jumbo frames - no change
Updated switch firmware - still no change

Problem still present with all F12 kernel versions (sky2 drivers) to
date

I have taken sky2 driver from latest stable kernel and tried to compile
under F12 but failed!

As I have a work around with 2nd NIC I have been lazy !!
Next move probably a custom kernel

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-21 Thread Aaron Konstam

On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 18:27 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: 
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Aaron Konstam  wrote:
> 
> > I think there is another problem with having pen drives formatted ext3
> > or ext4. Pen drives can only tolerate a finite number of writes before
> > they crap out. Any format that involves journaling will increase the
> > number of writes to the pen drive and hasten its failure.
> 
> The journal's size is not very large I suppose. And I also suppose
> that, like all other data, it is shifted from one place to another in
> other to have an equilibrium, not some sectors being written thousands
> of times and some other never.
> 
> OTOH, when I formatted, I wasn't so sure that ext3 was much use on a
> USB drive. I still don't know.
> 
In it is not muh use if you ever want to put it in a Wiindws machine.
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Compiz issue

2009-12-21 Thread James Allsopp

Hi,
I'm trying to find the controller for the compiz effect thatfits all the
windows into the screen so you can select one. This currently triggers on
the top-right corner, how can I change this. Got too used to having my
volume control there.

Can someone explain the difference between compiz and compiz-fusion. The
fits seems to be installed as part of the F12 install, but has very limited
options. I've tried install compiz-fusion, but it didn't seem to be
listening to any of the settings in CompizConfig Settings Manager,

Cheers
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Re: Routing with 2 ISP

2009-12-21 Thread David Hláčik

Hello Bill,
>>
> The easiest way to do this is to put all the commands in a shell script you
> run out of the run levels you want. Not that you can't hack scripts and save
> iptables, and do wonderful stuff, but a shell script has a nice provision
> for comments so you can see what you are doing, it does one thing at a time
> so it's easier to figure out what didn't work, and you can use your favorite
> version control system to track what you do.

Thank you, I have done little research and I have noticed :
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-routes which seems to use
route-$IFNAME and rule-$IFNAME file, passing lines to ip command.
Maybe I can try a little game in this area.
>
> Also, unless you have nothing but machines and people you trust on all these
> little subnets, have the external ISP connections on NICs not reachable from
> the  private machines without going through your firewall. Having had a 12
> years old tell me "Oh I read the man page and changed the netmask" was a
> revelation. Unless people are totally trusted and really competent, assume
> they will (maybe by accident) do something you don't want. Also, packets
> from the ISP in eth0.8 can physically reach the subnets (unless you have
> VLAN switches or similar).

Yes, I am using VLAN switches, so subnets can not be physically
reached when used 255.255.0.0 netmask.

Thank you and Best Regards,
David Hlacik

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Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-21 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht


Hiisi  writes:
> 2009/12/20 Ed Greshko :
>> This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before.
>>
>> My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly for
>> running SlingPlayer.  Part of the upper left quadrant had what could be
>> called a smear patter or smudge pattern.  It isn't from any type of burn
>> in.  But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the
>> screen...only "permanent".  It had been like this for a long time.
>>
>> Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was
>> hit by a 6.8 earthquake.  It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than
>> drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage.  But, when I
>> turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone.
>>
>> So, a shake-table is a good repair tool?  :-)
> It's a Russian way of repairing things - smash it!

A rubber mallet will fix many a dirty contact.  So will a bit of
Cramolin (aka "tuner cleaner") with a lot less wear and tear on the
device.

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3
non-overlapping WIFI channels?

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