Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave

2009-12-29 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/12/09 20:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
It's a kernel boot parameter, append it at the end of the kernel 
line in grub.conf


Another thing that I've noticed -- if you have a leftover 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf from the previous Fedora release, rename xorg.conf 
and restart, letting X start with a default configuration.


I haven't yet fully verified it, but even if I boot with the 
unmodified kernel boot line, after removing xorg.conf, it looks like 
power management also starts working.




.
I tried in both the grub GUI and /boot/grub/grub.conf. In neither case 
did the screen blank after five minutes  as it is set to do.


   title Omega 12.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro
   root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root noiswmd LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us --nomodeset

This was a new install of F-12 from the Omega-live on usb flash drive so 
there should be no artifacts of the last Fedora version.


Bob
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Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave

2009-12-29 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 29/12/09 07:14, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
You did not specify nomodeset. You specified --nomodeset. Remove 
the dashes.





Ok, I had another go at it, let the computer run that way while I had 
some breakfast, at least half an hour, but it did not blank the screen.


   title Omega 12.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro
   root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root noiswmd LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us nomodeset
initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.img

Bob


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Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave

2009-12-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 27/12/09 20:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
After updating to FC12, the monitor on one of my servers no longer 
turned off when the console was idle.


This wasn't the end of the world, so I didn't give this much 
importance. This weekend I had some extra time to spare, and I've now 
determined that if I boot with nomodeset, the monitor properly goes 
into powersave mode.


That seems to be the only difference. Everything works fine either 
way, except that by default DPMS does not work automatically.


I thought that, perhaps, with the oddball video card on this older 
server (mach64 chipset) DPMS is not implemented when the video card is 
in VESA mode, but I can run 'xset dpms force off', and the monitor 
goes into powersave mode immediately.


Is this a bug, or, despite the fact that DPMS is apparently working, 
in VESA mode, this may not be supported on my hardware?




   This F-12 desktop computer never shuts down the monitor either, I've
   checked the screen saver settings several times and it's set to five
   minutes, should just blank the screen to black, the preview check
   works, I even switched from xfce to gnome and see the same setting.
   The monitor itself offers no feature to blank the screen when idle,
   I just checked the OSD menu looking for that, a Dell LCD.

   It worked as expected on all earlier Fedoras.

   Bob


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Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave

2009-12-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/12/09 17:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

xset dpms force off


If running 'xset dpms force off' puts your monitor into powersave mode 
immediately, and if you boot with 'nomodeset', and that makes powersave 
work for you again automatically, then you have the same bug.


After pondering this, since 'xset dpms force off' works to put the 
monitor into powersave mode, then this has to be a bug. I just need to 
figure out what to file a bug against: gnome-power-manager, x.org, or 
kernel.



   Yes when I do xset dpms force off The screen goes black which is
   what it should do if the screen saver worked..

   To do nomodeset I will have to reboot is suppose but not sure how
   to apply that, startx --nomodeset perhaps or do I have to do it in
   grub? Yes, you say boot with it. Not sure where to put it in grub.

   Bob

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Re: Firefox/Flash print problem -

2009-12-27 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 26/12/09 21:51, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Bob Goodwin writes:


This is an updated F-12 computer, in fact I have two and both have
the same problem printing from flash in Firefox. When I ask it to
print the menu comes up allowing me to select the printer and that
accepts my selection, but no matter which of three printers I select
it only prints to the default printer designated in
system-config-printer!

Crossword puzzles collected as .pdf files print to whatever printer
I select. Printing from the command line works normally too.

Any suggestions on correcting this are welcome.


In about:config, check the print.postscript.print_command and 
print.print_command settings. If something is set for them, reset 
them to their default values.



These are shown as set to the default settings..

   print.postscript.print_command;lpr
   ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}

   print.print_command;lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}

I would assume that -P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME is what forces the default 
printer but I have no idea how to change that?


It's not a killer of a problem and I can live with it but it just struck 
me as not being right! At first I thought I had another LAN problem. It 
only affects Flash in Firefox and the only thing I use flash for is a 
few crossword puzzles that I and other family members work every day. 
I've got them hooked too!


Thanks for the response.

Bob


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Re: Flash drive name change -

2009-12-27 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 26/12/09 20:33, g wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:


I have not been able to change it no matter what I tried. And gparted tells me I've 
messed something up with it! After messing with gparted for a bit it tells me Partition 
and File System are unallocated whatever that means, but it sounds bad!
 

you no longer have a file system?


   

None of this is a serious problem, I guess I can reformat it ext2 and might 
eventually do that anyway. Just thought I should be able to do anything she can 
do with the Mac.
 

if you want ext2, would be best bet.

if you want to stay fat, use mkdosfs -n.

my apoligies for leading you into problems with dosfslabel. but from a
brighter side, you are gaining experience and will know how to handle next
time you get memory stixs.


hth.

   


mkfs.msdos -n fd3 /dev/sdc1 seems to have done it!

   [r...@box6 media]# mkfs.msdos -n fd3 /dev/sdc1

   mkfs.msdos 3.0.1 (23 Nov 2008)
   [b...@box6 ~]$ mount
   ...  %  .

   /dev/sdc1 on /media/fd3 type vfat
   (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=500,shortname=winnt,utf8)


Before doing that it would no longer mount, once I ran mkfs it mounted 
when plugged in. Fdisk said it was still formatted FAT32 so I haven't 
changed that yet.  I guess the next thing will be to make certain I can 
still write to it as it is.


   Disk /dev/sdc: 4009 MB, 4009754624 bytes
   145 heads, 48 sectors/track, 1125 cylinders
   Units = cylinders of 6960 * 512 = 3563520 bytes
   Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18



   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/sdc1   *   11126 3915752c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

As for leading me into problems, not to worry, I am quite able to find 
them without your help! And as you say it's been an interesting exercise.


Thanks for the help.

Bob



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Re: Flash drive name change -

2009-12-27 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 27/12/09 10:30, g wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   


Before doing that it would no longer mount, once I ran mkfs it mounted when
plugged in.
 

did you run mkfs -t fat or are you meaning when you ran mkfs.msdos?

   



   mkfs.msdos



Fdisk said it was still formatted FAT32 so I haven't changed that yet.  I
guess the next thing will be to make certain I can still write to it as it
is.
 

fdisk should know. and if you can not write to it, at least you will know
what to do.

btw, 'man mkfs.msdos' and 'man mkfs.vfat', both bring up 'mkdosfs', so i
would guess prog is actually 'mkdosfs'.

   


   I was able to write to  and read data from the flash drives when
   done so I guess they are good. I did two of them, changed the names
   to fd3 and fd4 instead of HP v100W.

   I also played with hexedit and I could change the name there also,
   tried changing it a couple of times and that seems to work.

   Bob


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Flash drive name change -

2009-12-26 Thread Bob Goodwin


   Among the Christmas gifts were two small flash drives with the name
   HP v100w which I would like to change but I haven't figured out
   how to do it without reformatting them.

   Presently the appear to be formatted vfat and show up as /media/HP
   v100w. The space in the name means I have to use quotes to address
   them. I would prefer to call them fd3 and fd4.

   I refuse to believe there's no way to do this from my Linux system.
   Perhaps someone can tell me how?

   Bob


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Re: Flash drive name change -

2009-12-26 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 26/12/09 12:49, g wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

I refuse to believe there's no way to do this from my Linux system.
 

$ locate label|grep bin/
/sbin/dosfslabel
/sbin/e2label
/usr/bin/mlabel
/usr/bin/ppmlabel
$

run man dosfslabel and man mlabel for usage.

hth.
   


dosfslabel seems to assign a label all right but it still does not change the 
name. Well it did assign a label, now I've broken something?


   [r...@box6 bobg]# dosfslabel /dev/sdc1
   There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
   Differences: (offset:original/backup)
  3:00/4d, 82:00/46, 510:00/55, 511:00/aa
  Not automatically fixing this.
   NO NAME

My daughter changed one on her Mac without much effort. I did not see what she did. She changed it 
to FD3, thought she told it fd3 but ... I have been trying to change it to lower case 
fd3.

I have not been able to change it no matter what I tried. And gparted tells me I've 
messed something up with it! After messing with gparted for a bit it tells me Partition 
and File System are unallocated whatever that means, but it sounds bad!

None of this is a serious problem, I guess I can reformat it ext2 and might 
eventually do that anyway. Just thought I should be able to do anything she can 
do with the Mac.

Bob





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Firefox/Flash print problem -

2009-12-26 Thread Bob Goodwin



   Fedora/3.5.6-1.fc12 Firefox/3.5.6


   about:plugins shows:


   Shockwave Flash

   File name: nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so
   Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42



   This is an updated F-12 computer, in fact I have two and both have
   the same problem printing from flash in Firefox. When I ask it to
   print the menu comes up allowing me to select the printer and that
   accepts my selection, but no matter which of three printers I select
   it only prints to the default printer designated in
   system-config-printer!

   Crossword puzzles collected as .pdf files print to whatever printer
   I select. Printing from the command line works normally too.

   Any suggestions on correcting this are welcome.

   Bob

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Re: A survey

2009-12-24 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 25/12/09 01:41, Hiisi wrote:

2009/12/25 Mike Williamsdmikewilli...@gmail.com:
   

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Hiisivery-c...@rambler.ru  wrote:
 

1. Are you left-handed?
   

yes
 

2. Do you use mouse with left hand?
   

sometimes
 

3. How to configure in F12 (Gnome) mouse pointer to be
left-handed-mouse oriented (I mean how to mirror mouse pointer)?
   

Like Frank, I use my middle finger to left click when using a mouse
left-handed.  I do this because I often use computers that others also
use.  Being used to using the left mouse button for left clicking
enables me to just move the mouse, and be comfortable without  having
to reconfigure anything (and no risk of forgetting to put it back when
I'm done).

Mike

 

Dear interviewees!
Thank you for your responses. But you just don't understand. I know
how to configure mouse buttons for left hand (i.e. reverse buttons
functions). I don't know how to change mouse _pointer_ orientation. I
would like to change it like this:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7656/mouseu.jpg
I remember it was possible in the days of FC7.

   


   In xfce you can control that in Preferences  Xfce 4 Settings
   Manager  Mouse  Themes. I always set mine to point from the
   Southwest rather than the Southeast. They style and size are also
   controllable.

   Bob


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Yumex crashes -

2009-12-23 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I have two new F-12 installs, one each 32 and 64 bit boxes. Yumex
   fails on both, although I think it may have worked initially after
   the Omegalive install. My memory is a bit fuzzy on that point, but
   it could have resulted from an update if that is the case.

   Yumex asks for a password, churns for a minute or so doing what it
   does to open and then crashes just as it begins to draw the opening
   display! I could see a few icons come up on the left edge and then
   gone, just the terminal from which I opened it leaving the following
   artifacts:

   History Enabled
   /usr/bin/yumex: line 5: 3234 Segmentation fault   (core dumped)
   /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yumex/yumex.pyc $*

   This looks like a problem with F-12 or yumex.

   I can survive without it but it helps in setting up new installs
   since it provides extensive applications lists, a help to me.

   Does anyone have a solution or do I just have to wait 'til it's
   fixed? Or do I have something messed up?

   Bob


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Re: Yumex crashes -

2009-12-23 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 23/12/09 12:35, Jim wrote:

On 12/23/2009 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:


   I have two new F-12 installs, one each 32 and 64 bit boxes. Yumex
   fails on both, although I think it may have worked initially after
   the Omegalive install. My memory is a bit fuzzy on that point, but
   it could have resulted from an update if that is the case.

   Yumex asks for a password, churns for a minute or so doing what it
   does to open and then crashes just as it begins to draw the opening
   display! I could see a few icons come up on the left edge and then
   gone, just the terminal from which I opened it leaving the following
   artifacts:

   History Enabled
   /usr/bin/yumex: line 5: 3234 Segmentation fault   (core dumped)
   /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yumex/yumex.pyc $*

   This looks like a problem with F-12 or yumex.

   I can survive without it but it helps in setting up new installs
   since it provides extensive applications lists, a help to me.

   Does anyone have a solution or do I just have to wait 'til it's
   fixed? Or do I have something messed up?

   Bob



you need to remove the ;

gtk2-immodule-xim-2.18.5-3.fc12

This package is causing Yumex to crash.



I did that on both computers and yumex appears to be working again.

Thanks for the help.

Bob w2bod

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No F-12 Flash -

2009-12-22 Thread Bob Goodwin


   What is the procedure to install Adobe Flash Player in Fedora 12 [in
   this case installed from the Omega livecd]?

   I have tried everything I can think of and nothing works including
   the Adobe procedure for installing their rpm.

   When I attempt to get some crossword puzzles I usually print I am
   told I need the flash player. In the past that installation
   procedure worked, but not now?

   It wants to install: Adobe Flash Player version 10.0.42.34  Linux

   It results in an rpm that produces libflashplayer.so but does not
   install it as the instruction implies. I copied that to
   /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ to no avail!

   I have two F-12 boxes now that need this. What do I need to do?

   Bob


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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-20 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 20/12/09 00:11, Mail Lists wrote:

   Slow it down a moment - lets get some concepts clear.

gmail does 3 things for you ..

1) it receives your mail

2) it send mail on your behalf


3) it lets you store the mail it has received and read the mail
that it has received for you.


  (1)  (2) are mail server functions.

  (3) is an imap server function.

  So when you set up an local imap server - you are setting up a server
that allows you to store and read emails. This is (3).

   In thunderbird you 'add an account' and as I described in first email
- set it up for your imap server.

   Once that is done you should have 2 accounts in thunderbird - gmail
and the second one you created.

   In thunderbird you can drag or copy emails from gmail to your second
account.

   


Thats it.
I am good through steps one, two, and three then on the F-12
server but the second part of my experimental effort is to move a
message from the server to this compuster box 9 [192.168.1.109] on
the wired LAN, connected through an Ethernet bridge, a part of a
Buffalo wireless device that also ties these cvomputers to the
router downstairs in the den. The LAN works well, no problems with it.

Where I am having trouble is understanding how to set up
Thunderbird accounts on this second [client [box9]] computer. I
found an entry in the account setup GUI called movemail which
sounds like the right place to enter the account info. I made an
account there forthe server [F-12 box6] but have not been able to
extract files from the server to the client. I suspect there may
be something left undone in dovecot.conf, all I did there was
un-comment a few items that obviously [to me] needed to be ...

Part of my problem is that I have been trying to do a number of
things at once, but have tried to block my thinking from the other
stuff and concentrate on this. Other stuff; converting this box to
F-12, and a new Laser printer that seems only to like Windows XP.
I had Windows lurking on this computer but had never booted it or
set it up for internet/LAN operation, Windows stuff is mostly
beyond my comprehension and I had to figure how to set that up.
Windows is not Linux, there's no help with it, not for me anyway!
To add to the confusion it seems Windows had some effect on the
router that disrupted LAN operation, a panic ensued since other
family members notice disruption of their Mac boxes! Things are
calm there now, the LAN is restored to normal. I offer that just
as background information.

My question is why can't I collect messages from the server on the
client. I can drag items around on both computers but the client
sees only what arrives via the gmail POP server. It has an imap
account set up to point to the server [192.168.1.106 [box6]] in
additon to it's original pop.gmail.com.

Bob



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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-20 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 20/12/09 12:55, Mail Lists wrote:


   o Using gmail - with imap - leaves the mail on gmail server.
   gmail with pop - removes the mail from gmail and stores
wherever you told your mail client to store it - once you've done this -
unless you store it on your own imap server then no other client will be
able to see that pop mail.

   o so you should leave gmail accounts all set to imap - unless you want
to pull the mail off gmail and store it.


   o your dovecot server is just like any other mail server - just set up
a new IMAP account - use IP or (or hostname if your computers can see
the host name).


  o each mail client you set up should have

  gmail imap
  your own imap

as accounts.

Then to move or copy mail just use mouse to drag or copy message(s) from
gmail to your own imap account.

   


   Ok, I'm still digesting all of this and imap is becoming useable on
   this F-12 computer. I think I will switch the other one over too and
   see if I can get along with imap for a while. Don't know what
   Thunderbird is doing but sometimes it takes a long time to display a
   message and that can be maddening? Something to do with imap.

   And each time I select a directory the cursor runs that blue swirl
   for at least ten seconds, don't know what that means?

   Also I am trying to delete some of the many directories that were
   created initially, some like spam can't be deleted though. I have
   the mail filters putting stuff where I want it now.

   I usually keep all my mail sorted into directories and threaded and
   I'm finally getting that under control. The system is usable as it
   is, I don't know about some of the delays I'm seeing ... Anyway I've
   come this far and intend to give it a try. Making the dovecot server
   work will have to wait but I will get that under control also in time.

   Thanks for your patience and help.

   Bob


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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 18/12/09 20:23, Mail Lists wrote:

On 12/18/2009 06:27 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

On 17/12/09 20:29, Mail Lists wrote:
 
   
 

 Ok, I give up! Where can I find instructions, hopefully step by
 step, to install IMAP with a local server? That sounds like the
 solution to this problem and a few others.

 Bob


   
 



   I dont have a walk-through howto so I will wing it .. I will assume
for now that you will not be using or running your own hosted
sendmail/postfix server (that is a little more involved) and all you
want is an imap server to store local mail.

   1) As root edit  /etc/dovecot.conf and make sure you have a directive
to use maildir and store it in your home directory under Maildir (or
whatever you want to use)

  e.g a line such as:

   mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir


   2) service dovecot start

   3) chkconfig dovecot on

  Then in your thunderbird just create a new account -
server will be 127.0.0.1
(or whatever the IP or hostname on your local network the server
is running on)

 user name (your login on the computer)

 connection security - STARTTLS

   Thats it. Create whatever folders you need and then use them.

   *** Minor Subtlety:

   You may find (likely will) that thunderbird will complain about the
ssl certificate being self signed by an unknown authority - for now just
tell it its ok - to remove this you'll need to create a better cert -
which is signed by a known certificate authority.

   I suggest a free server certificate from startcom - which is probably
your best bet. They are quick and easy and thunderbird and firefox have
them listed already as an acceptable CA (certficate authority). There
are others but most cost money - avoid things like cacert.org as they
are not known by any browser.


Go here:

http://www.startssl.com/

   Once you get the server certificate from them - you'll have 2 files -
a key file (ssl.key) and a xxx.crt file.

You'll ;likely need to convert them to pem format using something like

   openssl x509 -inform der -in xxx.crt -out xxx.pem

The edit the dovecot.conf file again and look for the lines

   ssl_cert_file
 and
   ssl_key_file ...

   Change the to point to your lovely new certificate and restart dovecot
(service dovecot restart).

   Best of luck.  Look in /var/log/maillog for hints of any problems ...

   


gene

Thanks for your suggestions. I intend to try as you have outlined
later this morning.

Much appreciated.

Bob



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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 19/12/09 05:11, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 18/12/09 20:23, Mail Lists wrote:

On 12/18/2009 06:27 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 17/12/09 20:29, Mail Lists wrote:

 Ok, I give up! Where can I find instructions, hopefully step by
 step, to install IMAP with a local server? That sounds like the
 solution to this problem and a few others.

 Bob





   I dont have a walk-through howto so I will wing it .. I will assume
for now that you will not be using or running your own hosted
sendmail/postfix server (that is a little more involved) and all you
want is an imap server to store local mail.

   1) As root edit  /etc/dovecot.conf and make sure you have a directive
to use maildir and store it in your home directory under Maildir (or
whatever you want to use)



.  snip  .


   Best of luck.  Look in /var/log/maillog for hints of any problems ...


gene

Thanks for your suggestions. I intend to try as you have outlined
later this morning.

Much appreciated.

Bob





   Ok, I've installed Dovecot, made some changes to the config. file
   and started it. Then told gmail I wanted to enable IMAP. Although
   I have a wildblue address they gave up their mail servers and
   shunted everyone over to google! Not the best deal for users perhaps
   but I had no choice. Rural users are stuck without CATV or Telco DSL
   internet service so the satellite providers have no competition.

   Anyway now that I've done this the system is dumping everything it
   has on me, presently 4091 trash files! Hopefully that is all,
   probably ~7k messages in total.

   I still don't understand how this works but I will in pretty short
   order I guess? Where are these messages being saved? On my F-12
   computer somewhere in Dovecot I hope.

   What do I have to configure in another computer to access the IMAP
   messages? Do I simply add an IMAP user to Thunderbird, the email
   program I have been using for some time. If the messages are stored
   in my computer, other computers need to look there and connect via
   my LAN [wired and wireless]. I'm already in over my head despite
   reading a lot of instructions on how to set this up!.

   Any help is appreciated.

   Bob

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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 19/12/09 17:08, Mike Cloaked wrote:



Mike Cloaked wrote:
   


This is not directly related to the dovecot imap server that you will have
set up on your own machine. You can get Thunderbird to (separately)
connect to you own imap server if you set up a local imap account
pointing to 127.0.0.1 and have the dovecot service running locally (i.e.
make sure that as root dovecot service start, and chkconfig dovecot on
to start it at boot - and check that the service is running by service
dovecot status)


 

Sorry there was a typo  in the above should have been service dovecot
start and not dovecot service start !!
   


The typo is no problem, I've already found service dovecto 
status/start/stop/.


This is not clear to me yet, do I need dovecot on a second computer to 
set up a local account? Do I need a t'bird IMAP account on each 
computer? Confusion reigns at this point but fear not I will get it 
eventually.


I am sending this from the F12 [dovecot]. Now to see if it will send. I 
collected your message so that much is working. We are having rain and 
snow in Virginia and my tiny ku band transmitter has trouble reaching 
the satellite. I'll try to send again later .


Thanks.

Bob

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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 19/12/09 17:04, Mike Cloaked wrote:


So re-capping:
1) Set up local imap server - dovecot.
2) Set up email client eg Thunderbird and/or Evolution and/or kmail etc with
each email client having an account pointing to any mail servers where you
have email - one account may be gmail, another your local dovecot imap, and
you may have a yahoo account or others as well
3) Set up filter rules to copy mail from one or other of these servers to
any of the others - each account set up in an email client points to a
different server.

I hope this helps
   


   I found that I could set up a movemail account in Thunderbird. I
   made one for b...@192.168.1.106 which should be the computer with
   the server, clicked on get mail but nothing showed? Perhaps I
   missed something in dovecot config.?

   Bob


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Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-18 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 17/12/09 20:29, Mail Lists wrote:

On 12/17/2009 04:33 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

There must be a way to save/export/import Thunderbirds email files
when going from F-11 to F-12! I have never been able to do this
despite suggestions to simply move the Thunderbirds Mail files.
Every six months or so I lose all the mail when I upgrade Fedora and
reinstall Thunderbirds,
 


WHile you can usually re-use your .thunderbird directory, one should
never save any email in thunderbird local format in my view. I use TB
coz I still thinks its the best of a bunch.

A far, far better way than using local TB storage, is to simply run a
local imap server (dovecot works really well) and use that. The major
advantages are

 (i) You are now essentially indifferent to what mail client you use
- and its simple quick to change between different mail clients.

 (ii) TB local storage (mbox format) was designed in the 70's ... and
it has long since been replaced by far far safer, faster and superior
formats.

  mbox format is a single large file - so if you delete a message in
the middle, it doesn't actually delete it (too slow) until you
compress it. Using a modern format (like maildir++) never needs
compression and the risk of corruption is gone.


[MS outmook uses a similar approach - and they have similar problems
- corrupted mail files. There is a small cottage industry of repair
programs which attempt to recover mails from a corrpted outlook.pst file! ]

   And remember to turn off GLODA too in tb 3 or you're in for all kinds
of gigabyte files and slow to start and run tb.

   


good luck!




Ok, I give up! Where can I find instructions, hopefully step by
step, to install IMAP with a local server? That sounds like the
solution to this problem and a few others.

Bob




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Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 17/12/09 01:14, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 12/17/2009 12:44 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

   

Are there any differences between this and
Omega012-i686-Live-RC1.iso that I just installed. I had some trouble
making it work as an NFS clent ... Other than that it looks good.,,
 

Yeah. RC1 had a important kernel issue (wrong arch) that has been fixed
in thsi image.

Rahul

   


   And of course I installed it only a day before the final release
   came out! Is it something I can repair or do I need to start over.
   My b.w. usage is limited and I watch it carefully, another gigabyte
   download is significant although do-able if necessary.

   What I have seems to be working, after some protesting about a
   missing nfs app. I would be tempted to leave it alone if the kernel
   will be replaced via the update process if that's all it needs? I am
   ready to upgrade this F-11 computer next ...

   Thanks.

   Bob



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Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 17/12/09 04:34, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 17/12/09 01:14, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 12/17/2009 12:44 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:


Are there any differences between this and
Omega012-i686-Live-RC1.iso that I just installed. I had some 
trouble

making it work as an NFS clent ... Other than that it looks good.,,

Yeah. RC1 had a important kernel issue (wrong arch) that has been fixed
in thsi image.

Rahul



   And of course I installed it only a day before the final release
   came out! Is it something I can repair or do I need to start over.
   My b.w. usage is limited and I watch it carefully, another gigabyte
   download is significant although do-able if necessary.

   What I have seems to be working, after some protesting about a
   missing nfs app. I would be tempted to leave it alone if the kernel
   will be replaced via the update process if that's all it needs? I am
   ready to upgrade this F-11 computer next ...

   Thanks.

   Bob




.

   After the first yum update:
   Linux box6 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 10:46:22 EST
   2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

   Grub shows the original as:
   vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64

   Notice that it appears to have recognized this box as able to use 64
   bit apps? I was surprised to see that after the install.

   Bob


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Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 17/12/09 05:08, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 12/17/2009 03:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

   

After the first yum update:
Linux box6 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 10:46:22 EST
2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Grub shows the original as:
vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64

Notice that it appears to have recognized this box as able to use 64
bit apps? I was surprised to see that after the install.
 

This is the arch issue I was talking about. Do a hiccup in the compose,
x86_64 kernel got pulled in. This is bound to confuse yum among other
things.  You can download the 32-bit kernel and install it manually as a
workaround.

Rahul

   
The question then becomes what is box 6? Is it capable of running as a a 
64 bit computer? I do a lot of reconfiguration immediately after install 
and yum collected 64 bit apps wherever possible and it all seems to be 
working!


Do I need to wipe it out and start over? I'm not sure what I have for a 
computer, it's always run 32 bit.


This F-11 [box9] computer I believe is 32 bit, it's about six  months 
earlier in manufacture.


But dmidecode for box6 [F-12] shows the following data:

BIOS Information
Vendor: Dell Inc.
Version: A09
Release Date: 06/22/2005
Address: 0xF
Runtime Size: 64 kB
ROM Size: 512 kB
Characteristics:
PCI is supported
PNP is supported
APM is supported
BIOS is upgradeable
BIOS shadowing is allowed
Boot from CD is supported
Selectable boot is supported
EDD is supported
Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
Serial services are supported (int 14h)
Printer services are supported (int 17h)
ACPI is supported
USB legacy is supported
LS-120 boot is supported
BIOS boot specification is supported
Function key-initiated network boot is supported

:

Processor Information
Socket Designation: Microprocessor
Type: Central Processor
Family: Pentium 4
Manufacturer: Intel
ID: 41 0F 00 00 FF FB EB BF
Signature: Type 0, Family 15, Model 4, Stepping 1
Flags:
FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip)
VME (Virtual mode extension)
DE (Debugging extension)
PSE (Page size extension)
TSC (Time stamp counter)
MSR (Model specific registers)
PAE (Physical address extension)
MCE (Machine check exception)
CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported)
APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported)
SEP (Fast system call)
MTRR (Memory type range registers)
PGE (Page global enable)
MCA (Machine check architecture)
CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported)
PAT (Page attribute table)
PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension)
CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported)
DS (Debug store)
ACPI (ACPI supported)
MMX (MMX technology supported)
FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore)
SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions)
SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2)
SS (Self-snoop)
HTT (Hyper-threading technology)
TM (Thermal monitor supported)
PBE (Pending break enabled)
Version: Not Specified
Voltage: 1.8 V
External Clock: 800 MHz
Max Speed: 4000 MHz
Current Speed: 2800 MHz
Status: Populated, Enabled
Upgrade: ZIF Socket
L1 Cache Handle: 0x0700
L2 Cache Handle: 0x0701
L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided


Bob

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How to identify 32 or 64 bits -

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Goodwin


   Can someone tell me how to determine if a computer can run 64 bit
   Fedora?

   I have two similar Dell desk top computers with what appears to be
   the same processor, one of which has had F-12 64 bit installed on it
   and seems to be happy. I always assumed they were 32 bit computers
   and really don't care which they are but wish to avoid using the
   b.w. to download another copy of F-12.

   I need to know before I can upgrade the second one.

   Thanks.

   Bob


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Re: How to identify 32 or 64 bits -

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 17/12/09 07:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 12/17/2009 06:11 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

Can someone tell me how to determine if a computer can run 64 bit
Fedora?

I have two similar Dell desk top computers with what appears to be
the same processor, one of which has had F-12 64 bit installed on it
and seems to be happy. I always assumed they were 32 bit computers
and really don't care which they are but wish to avoid using the
b.w. to download another copy of F-12.

I need to know before I can upgrade the second one.

Thanks.

Bob

 

As I indicated in the other thread,

# grep lm /proc/cpuinfo

If it returns nothing, your system is 32-bit.

Rahul

   
I'm sorry, I missed the grep. So all I did was cat the /proc/info and 
didn't know what to look for?


This F-11 box yields:

   [b...@box9 ~]$ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
   nothing returned


While the Omega F-12 box yields:

   [b...@box6 ~]$ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
   flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca
   cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
   syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid
   cx16 xtpr
   flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca
   cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
   syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid
   cx16 xtpr


From which I shall conclude that box6 is 64 bit and will work with the 
version installed but that box9 will not.


So I will have to burn up some more of my b.w. allotment and download 
the final release.  Ok, just as long as I know I'm not doing something 
unnecessary. I knew I was taking a chance with the RC1 version.


Once more I appreciate your work and the help.

Thank you.

Bob


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Re: How to identify 32 or 64 bits -

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 17/12/09 08:56, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 13:48 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   

bash-4.0$ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat 
clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon 
pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat 
clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon 
pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm
bash-4.0$

(the lahf_lm flag matches, though I've no idea what it means).
 

arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeature.h says it indicates whether the
LAHF/SAHF (load status flags to AH /save AH to status flags)
instructions are available in long mode.

I'm not sure what it implies if you have lahf_lm but not lm!

Regards,
Bryn.


   


   Good!  Thanks to all who responded, this has been educational and
   worth the bandwidth expended to me ... So much to know, so little
   time to learn!

   Bob


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Saving Tbird e-mail files? -

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Goodwin


   There must be a way to save/export/import Thunderbirds email files
   when going from F-11 to F-12! I have never been able to do this
   despite suggestions to simply move the Thunderbirds Mail files.
   Every six months or so I lose all the mail when I upgrade Fedora and
   reinstall Thunderbirds,

   I usually have two Fedora computers as is the case now. I would like
   to move the mail from the F-11 box to the new F-12 installation on a
   second computer. The Thunderbirds mail import function looks for
   something in Communicator 4x or some such thing but is very
   inflexible. Communicator 4x doesn't exist on any of my computers!

   Is there  a known working procedure to accomplish this. I routinely
   transfer files between them via sftp and nfs. But those mail files
   defy all my attempts.

   Any help appreciated.

   Bob

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Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-16 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 16/12/09 10:27, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Omega (Boxer) release is a remix of Fedora 12 and includes all the
updates till Monday 14th of December 2009 from Fedora, RPM Fusion and
Livna repositories.  Adobe repository is also enabled by default for
convenience but no software is installed from that repository by default.

It is a 1.3 GB Live image and you can simply use dd in Linux or the
cross platform Fedora Live USB creator to create a Live USB.

Download it from

http://omega.dgplug.org/

Thanks to the entire Fedora community.

Rahul
   


On 16/12/09 10:27, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Omega (Boxer) release is a remix of Fedora 12 and includes all the
updates till Monday 14th of December 2009 from Fedora, RPM Fusion and
Livna repositories.  Adobe repository is also enabled by default for
convenience but no software is installed from that repository by default.

It is a 1.3 GB Live image and you can simply use dd in Linux or the
cross platform Fedora Live USB creator to create a Live USB.

Download it from

http://omega.dgplug.org/

Thanks to the entire Fedora community.

Rahul
   


   Are there any differences between this and
   Omega012-i686-Live-RC1.iso that I just installed. I had some trouble
   making it work as an NFS clent ... Other than that it looks good.,,

   Bob

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Selinux message F-12 -

2009-12-14 Thread Bob Goodwin


I keep seeing a star icon in the F-12 box which produces the message 
below. I wonder if it has anything to do with my ssh problems?


What does it mean? What must I do to satisfy it?

Bob

#

Summary:

SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1
sys_tty_config access.

Detailed Description:

[polkit-agent-he has a permissive type (policykit_auth_t). This access 
was not

denied.]

SELinux denied access requested by polkit-agent-he. It is not expected 
that this
access is required by polkit-agent-he and this access may signal an 
intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration 
of the

application is causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Please file a bug
report.

Additional Information:

Source Context
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c

  0.c1023
Target Context
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c

  0.c1023
Target ObjectsNone [ capability ]
Sourcepolkit-agent-he
Source Path   /usr/libexec/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1
Port Unknown
Host  box6
Source RPM Packages   polkit-0.95-0.git20090913.3.fc12
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.6.32-55.fc12
Selinux Enabled   True
Policy Type   targeted
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Plugin Name   catchall
Host Name box6
Platform  Linux box6 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE #1 
SMP Wed

  Dec 9 11:00:30 EST 2009 i686 i686
Alert Count   10
First SeenWed 09 Dec 2009 10:03:47 AM EST
Last Seen Sun 13 Dec 2009 07:36:40 PM EST
Local ID  71279b6b-af71-4208-85fe-64503a292646
Line Numbers

Raw Audit Messages

node=box6 type=AVC msg=audit(1260751000.112:20114): avc:  denied  { 
sys_tty_config } for  pid=15535 comm=polkit-agent-he capability=26 
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tclass=capability


node=box6 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1260751000.112:20114): arch=4003 
syscall=54 success=yes exit=0 a0=2 a1=5401 a2=bfa30888 a3=bfa3099c 
items=0 ppid=14661 pid=15535 auid=501 uid=501 gid=501 euid=0 suid=0 
fsuid=0 egid=501 sgid=501 fsgid=501 tty=(none) ses=1 
comm=polkit-agent-he exe=/usr/libexec/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1 
subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)






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Re: Omega 12 Release Candidate 1

2009-12-13 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 11/12/09 20:18, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

Omega, a Fedora Remix has a RC1 out for your feedback.

http://omega.dgplug.org/12/Live/i686/tmp/Omega-12-i686-Live-RC1.iso
   




I downloaded and used liveusb-creator to copy to a flash
drive, that booted and ran, set up printer and printed a pdf
crossword puzzle to the laser printer. All of that pretty
simple once I realized the printer was out of paper!

It looks like I will have to install flash to print the other
puzzles I usually work. But that's always an extra it seems.

All worked as expected and with little effort. Next to use
that flash drive to install F-12 on this F-11 computer.

Your work is much appreciated.

Thanks.

Bob




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F-12 ssh problem -

2009-12-13 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I can ssh from this F-11 box to the F-12 box but can't get a
   connection in the reverse direction. It keeps giving Connection
   refused.

   I use Firestarter and there's nothing in the log so I don't think
   it's a problem there. sshd is running in both, where else do I need
   to look? I can use numerical addresses, 192.168.1.109, etc. doesn't
   work, although I have them set up in /etc/hosts as box 6, etc.

   I'd like to fix that before switching this box to F-12.

   Any suggestions appreciated.

   Bob


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Re: Universal drive adapter -

2009-12-12 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 11/12/09 07:12, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

On 12/10/2009 09:18 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Yes, I posted the question and found the response interesting and
helpful. I spent a couple of hours reading man pages and
experimenting with the lvm commands on various drives.

But I have not been able to open a volume and list the directories
and files, such as /home and /etc! I must be dense ...
You cannot directly mount an LVM2 physical volume. The idea of the 
volume manager is that it abstracts storage using a layered model:


Physical volumes - actual disks/storage devices
Volume groups - collections of related disks that are managed together
Logical volumes - virtual partitions carved out of the disks in the VG

The PV is a container for the LVs that exist in the volume group.

You need to activate any LVs that it contains using the commands in my 
earlier mail before you can mount them.


LVs then behave a lot like regular partitions but with more 
flexibility; they can be resized on the fly, mirrored, snapshotted, 
migrated to new storage etc all without interruption to services.


When you activate an LV or a VG you will get new entries in the /dev 
directory in a subdirectory named after the volume group. E.g. my VG 
in the examples I gave was named system and it contains a half-dozen 
or so LVs:


# ls /dev/system/
home  root  swap0  tmp  usr  var
[r...@p380-1 ~]# vgs
  VG #PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize   VFree
  system   1  11   0 wz--n- 231.66G 88.81G
[r...@p380-1 ~]# lvs
  LV  VG Attr   LSize   Origin Snap%  Move Log Copy%  Convert
  homesystem -wi-ao 100.00G
  rootsystem -wi-ao  21.03G
  swap0   system -wi-ao   8.00G
  tmp system -wi-a-   1.00G
  usr system -wi-a-   8.00G
  var system -wi-ao   4.00G

E.g. to mount the tmp logical volume (assuming it's active and not 
already mounted), I would run:


mount /dev/system/tmp /tmp

Regards,
Bryn.


   I haven't given up on this, it just takes time. I've printed the
   list messages and comb-bound them in a booklet. Good reference for
   now until I understand things better.

   I was able to format an old Windows 2000 drive and create an ext4
   file to which I copied /home/bob/ from the F-12  computer and all
   that worked well.

   And I've finally managed to display the files on an old F-10 pata
   drive, that's a major accomplishment. But it seems this drive had a
   boot partition which the other one did not and it mounted easily,
   even automatically when the usb plug is inserted. That made things
   easier.

   I will eventually get all this worked out and perhaps even
   understand the process eventually.

   Thanks much for the help.

   Bob


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Universal drive adapter -

2009-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I bought a new gadget, a USB2 Universal Drive Adapter which does
   essentially what an external drive box does but it is not limited to
   SATA drives,

   On the F-12 computer it shows up in lsusb and I can see a drive at
   /dev/sdc with fdisk [sdc1] and it shows up as Linux and LVM.

   Is there a way to make it list the contents of the drive?

   I tried mounting it with mount /dev/sdc1 -t ext3 /mnt/hdtest which
   I created for the purpose but that doesn't satisfy it. It produces a
   stock error message wrong fs type, bad option, etc.

   I've only tried that one old IDE drive so far. Any suggestions
   appreciated.

   Bob


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Re: Universal drive adapter -

2009-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 10/12/09 10:19, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:


blkid /dev/sdc1
 

   Ok, thank you, that gives me a bit more information:

   [r...@box6 bob]# file -s /dev/sdc1
   /dev/sdc1: LVM2 (Linux Logical Volume Manager) , UUID:
   X5Vx9im0hf7hS6Y4WNhdW2ju8heRtUh

   [r...@box6 bob]# blkid /dev/sdc1
   /dev/sdc1: UUID=X5Vx9i-m0hf-7hS6-Y4WN-hdW2-ju8h-eRtUhR
   TYPE=LVM2_member

   Is there a way to list directories and files?

   Tnx.

   Bob


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Re: Universal drive adapter -

2009-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 10/12/09 14:25, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

On 12/10/2009 03:28 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 10/12/09 10:19, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:


blkid /dev/sdc1

Ok, thank you, that gives me a bit more information:

[r...@box6 bob]# file -s /dev/sdc1
/dev/sdc1: LVM2 (Linux Logical Volume Manager) , UUID:
X5Vx9im0hf7hS6Y4WNhdW2ju8heRtUh

[r...@box6 bob]# blkid /dev/sdc1
/dev/sdc1: UUID=X5Vx9i-m0hf-7hS6-Y4WN-hdW2-ju8h-eRtUhR
TYPE=LVM2_member

Is there a way to list directories and files?



The drive was configured for use with the logical volume manager
(LVM2). You need to use the LVM2 tools to find out what volume group
is on the disk and what logical volumes it contains. Then you can
activate and mount the devices like any other block device.

Have a look at the LVM2 documentation/man pages or how-tos for more
information.


[___ useful examples and such snipped ___]

Thanks, this is a good cheat sheet to give to new (or reluctant) LVM 
users.

Don't know if it helped the OP but I found it useful.



   Yes, I posted the question and found the response interesting and
   helpful. I spent a couple of hours reading man pages and
   experimenting with the lvm commands on various drives.

   But I have not been able to open a volume and list the directories
   and files, such as /home and /etc! I must be dense ...

   This from another drive:

   [r...@box6 bob]# lvm
   lvm pvdisplay
  --- Physical volume ---
  PV Name   /dev/sdb2
  VG Name   VolGroup00
  PV Size   74.43 GB / not usable 22.62 MB
  Allocatable   yes
  PE Size (KByte)   32768
  Total PE  2381
  Free PE   1
  Allocated PE  2380
  PV UUID   J5Yc28-aO4n-ODWI-1c0W-H9Jr-04jN-ufwyRj

   And fdisk shows:

   Disk /dev/sdc: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
   255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
   Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
   Disk identifier: 0x000c6487

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/sdc1   *   1243419551073+  8e  Linux LVM

   But I can't mount this one either using   mount /dev/sdc1 -t
   ext3 /mnt/hdtest 

   It protests about the file type[?]. Perhaps lvm requires a
   different type?


   Bob

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No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following
   message when I try to use it:

   [b...@box9 ~]$ system-config-display

   (xconf.py:4947): Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains
   invalid UTF-8
   Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 376,
   in module
dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state,
   xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo())
  File /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py,
   line 641, in __init__
if len(self.xconfig.layout[0].adjacencies)  1:
   IndexError: index out-of-bounds

   All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using?

   What's wrong here?

   Bob

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Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 06/12/09 04:49, Roger wrote:

On 12/05/2009 08:44 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:


   I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following
   message when I try to use it:


   All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using?

   What's wrong here?

   Bob


yum install system-config-display
I had to do this
Roger



Yes, I did that but it does not work? I should have mentioned this box 
is still F-11.


[b...@box9 ~]$ system-config-display

   (xconf.py:4947): Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains
   invalid UTF-8
   Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 376,
   in module
dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state,
   xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo())
  File /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py,
   line 641, in __init__
if len(self.xconfig.layout[0].adjacencies)  1:
   IndexError: index out-of-bounds


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Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 05/12/09 04:56, Ed Greshko wrote:

Well...FWIW, it works here fine on a fully updated F12 in both KDE and
GNOME sessions.  The GNOME session does have the following set

[gno...@f12 ~]$ env | grep DESK
IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes
DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated

Maybe you should check yours and see if there is another environment
variable of DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID set with some weird characters?

Ed


   


   I should have said this is F-11/XFCE. I don't have the F-12 box
   running at the moment ...

   [b...@box9 ~]$ env | grep DESK
   IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes

   Bob

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Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 05/12/09 05:30, Ed Greshko wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

I should have said this is F-11/XFCE. I don't have the F-12 box
running at the moment ...

[b...@box9 ~]$ env | grep DESK
IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes

Bob

 

OK

 From my fully updated F11 system and running XFCE

[egres...@f11 ~]$ env | grep DESK
IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes
DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4

And it works.

   


Ed


I must admit I don't know how to change env and man env is not
helping.

I did :
env DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4

but that did not make it work. It asks for pasword and then comes up with the error 
message. I even tried re-booting the computer from poweroff.
 


I started the F-12 computer and did yum install
system-config-display and it does work as expected.

Well I'm nearly at the point of updating this computer to F-12 too
so it's moot I guess. Just waiting to see if there is an F-12
Omega livecd.

I would like to know how to change/add to the environment though?
Guess google will tell me that if no one else does ...

Thanks for the help.

Bob



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Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 05/12/09 08:53, Marko Vojinovic wrote:


export DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4

Read the man bash, search for export keyword.

HTH, :-)
Marko
   


   Yes, that helps.

   I should have added that the F-12 computer does not have that line,
   is like this F-11 box. The F-12 box works as expected, but this one
   does not even after the command export DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4.

   Thanks

   Bob


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Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 05/12/09 08:57, Christoph Wickert wrote:

Am Samstag, den 05.12.2009, 04:44 -0500 schrieb Bob Goodwin:
   
 

This is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480534

   

 All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using?
 

use xrandr

   

 What's wrong here?
 

I guess you are using the proprietary nvidia driver.

   

 Bob
 

Regards,
Christopg

   


   No I believe this on board video uses an ATI chip?

   It looks like I am not alone, just a late comer to the discovery of
   a known problem described in that bug. But it did offer
   /usr/bin/gnome-display=properties which provides the information I
   was looking for [1680 x 1050] as well as does xrandr:

   [b...@box9 ~]$ xrandr
   Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 4096 x
   4096
   VGA1 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis
   y axis) 433mm x 271mm
   1680x1050  60.0*+
   1280x1024  75.0
   1024x768   75.1 70.1 60.0
   832x62474.6
   800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48072.8 75.0 66.7 60.0
   720x40070.1

   Thanks.

   Bob


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Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/12/09 08:56, Ed Greshko wrote:FWIW, I am pretty sure I was barking 
up the wrong tree.

It seems that DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID is actually related to Xorg than
anything elseand it is too late and I've got to get up too early to
really delve into it.

http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html

It would seem that you've always started system-config-display as a
normal user.  I'd be curious if you'd first su - if the same error
would occur.

Also, FWIW, there were several bugzilla's for various system-config-*
utils with the same error message.



   


   I crawled out from under my 'lectric blanket at 03:00 to investigate
   this ...

   I su'd to root and the results were the same. It's a recognized
   problem and probably not worth further investigation at this time.

   Thank you.

   Bob


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Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 05/12/09 17:30, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 12/05/2009 03:27 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

On 06/12/09 04:49, Roger wrote:
 

On 12/05/2009 08:44 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following
message when I try to use it:


All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using?

What's wrong here?

Bob

 

yum install system-config-display
I had to do this
Roger

   

Yes, I did that but it does not work? I should have mentioned this box
is still F-11.
 

In that case, yum install kudzu.  It is a missing dependency.

Rahul

   



   Ok, I installed [yum] kudzu but still the error persists. I have not
   re-booted though if that is required?

   [b...@box9 ~]$ system-config-display
   Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 376,
   in module
dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state,
   xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo())
  File /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py,
   line 641, in __init__
if len(self.xconfig.layout[0].adjacencies)  1:
   IndexError: index out-of-bounds

   Tnx.

   Bob


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Re: Pulseaudio error message -

2009-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 25/11/09 20:09, stan wrote:

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:10:04 -0500
Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net  wrote:

   

 I don't have much need for sound but it usually works.

 This is a new F-12 install from the livecd and it acts like the
 audio level is turned down somewhere although I haven't been able
to find it. I think I can hear some very faint sounds at times?.

 One symptom is:[b...@box6 ~]$
aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav

 Home directory /home/bobg not ours.
 ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to
 connect: Connection refused

 aplay: main:608: audio open error: Connection refused

 When I try pavucontrol I get an error message:

 Connection failed: Connection refused


 I don't know what this is telling me, I know that I have changed
 anything related to sound. It worked with no problem in F-11

 Any suggestions appreciated.

 Bob

 

Sure sounds like a permission problem.  It is acting like you are a
different user than pulse was started with.  What happens if you set up
a new user and try from there?

   


   I created a new user bob and he was able to get sound after
   changing some of the sound config's via the GUI for Sound Preferences.

   It was set to Analog Mono Output/Amplifier. Changing that to
   Analog Output/Amplifier got sound working for bob but not for me
   bobg!

   I've been checking permissions but obviously not the right ones or
   not recognizing the error? Pavucontrol still comes up with the same
   error message.

   Bob



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copy xfce configuration?

2009-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I have a Fedora 12 computer on which I have set the screen
   configuration to satisfy me. That includes launchers with icons and
   panels 1, 2, and 3. Can I transfer my configuration to another user
   by copying a file/s? Or do I have to recreate it for each user? If
   so can I copy it to another F12 computer?

   Bob



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Re: copy xfce configuration?

2009-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin

   On 26/11/09 17:04, suvayu ali wrote:

2009/11/26 Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net:
 

   I have a Fedora 12 computer on which I have set the screen
   configuration to satisfy me. That includes launchers with icons and
   panels 1, 2, and 3. Can I transfer my configuration to another user
   by copying a file/s? Or do I have to recreate it for each user? If
   so can I copy it to another F12 computer?

   

You can try copying the contents of the relevant directories in
`~/.config' to the corresponding directory for the new user.

Maybe something like `cp -R ~userold/.config/xfce* ~usernew/.config/' ?
 


   I accidentally sent my message to the wrong list, I intended to send
   it to the xfce list and hit the wrong address.

   I got essentially the same answer there:

   Of course you can:
   cp /home/user1/.config/xfce /home/user2/.config/
   chown -R user2:user2 /home/user2/.config/xfce




   That information enabled me to clear a couple of problems.

   Thanks for the help.

   Bob


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Pulseaudio error message -

2009-11-25 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I don't have much need for sound but it usually works.

   This is a new F-12 install from the livecd and it acts like the
   audio level is turned down somewhere although I haven't been able to
   find it. I think I can hear some very faint sounds at times?.

   One symptom is:[b...@box6 ~]$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav

   Home directory /home/bobg not ours.
   ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to
   connect: Connection refused

   aplay: main:608: audio open error: Connection refused

   When I try pavucontrol I get an error message:

   Connection failed: Connection refused


   I don't know what this is telling me, I know that I have changed
   anything related to sound. It worked with no problem in F-11

   Any suggestions appreciated.

   Bob

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Re: No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -

2009-11-25 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 25/11/09 14:39, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
This was my problem, not F-12! I checked immediately upon booting the 
computer and found that it was bringing up nfs /mnt/srvr2 but not 
/mnt/srvr1, the one that was causing me problems since some of my 
data is stored there.


The error was in /etc/fstab I had inadvertently hit a period instead 
of a comma when entering the options and that went unnoticed by my 
one barely functional 79 year old eye!


   192.168.1.48:/mnt/rfg//mnt/srvr1nfsdefaults,rw.user
0 0
   192.168.1.48:/mnt/glg//mnt/srvr2nfsdefaults,rw,user
0 0

   192.168.1.48:/media/SimpleDrive/data/mnt/srvr3  nfs
   defaults,rw,user 0 0


After correcting that all is happiness.

Thanks for the suggestions, much of which I have saved in my notes.

And mine, at least a few. When you said it had worked on FC1011 I 
thought this was an upgrade, so a typo didn't even come to mind. Good 
catch.


My eyes aren't as old as yours, but I do have one machine with a 32 
inch screen (old HDTV with issues) which does a good job of making 
things large enough to see.




   Sorry to have confused you. This was to have been an [pre]upgrade
   but that turned into a mess and I dropped in the Livedc and
   installed that as I have been doing recently. Yes the large screens
   help, this one is a 20 and the other box with the F12 install is
   19. The 32 TV should help keep the room warm as well as easing the
   eye strain.

   Bob



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Re: No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 23/11/09 10:35, Bob Goodwin wrote:


   NFS has worked for me without many problems from F10 to F11 but on
   the new F12 install I have to mount nfs manually after boot.

   Has anyone else had a problem or have I overlooked something?

   Bob




This was my problem, not F-12! I checked immediately upon booting the 
computer and found that it was bringing up nfs /mnt/srvr2 but not 
/mnt/srvr1, the one that was causing me problems since some of my data 
is stored there.


The error was in /etc/fstab I had inadvertently hit a period instead of 
a comma when entering the options and that went unnoticed by my one 
barely functional 79 year old eye!


   192.168.1.48:/mnt/rfg//mnt/srvr1nfsdefaults,rw.user0 0
   192.168.1.48:/mnt/glg//mnt/srvr2nfsdefaults,rw,user0 0
   192.168.1.48:/media/SimpleDrive/data/mnt/srvr3  nfs
   defaults,rw,user 0 0


After correcting that all is happiness.

Thanks for the suggestions, much of which I have saved in my notes.

Bob



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Re: Omega 12?

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 24/11/09 13:19, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 11/24/2009 11:47 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
   

Is new Omega 12 (Fedora remix/respin) finished?
 

Not yet. I am waiting to roll in the initial set of updates to get a
solid release.

Rahul

   


   I would like to receive notice when it is available.

   Tnx.

   Bob


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No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -

2009-11-23 Thread Bob Goodwin


   NFS has worked for me without many problems from F10 to F11 but on
   the new F12 install I have to mount nfs manually after boot.

   Has anyone else had a problem or have I overlooked something?

   Bob


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Re: No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -

2009-11-23 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 23/11/09 10:43, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:35:28 -0500
Bob Goodwin wrote:

   

 NFS has worked for me without many problems from F10 to F11 but on
 the new F12 install I have to mount nfs manually after boot.

 Has anyone else had a problem or have I overlooked something?

 Bob
 

I haven't had any problems on my f12 virtual machines getting NFS
mounts to work at boot time, but see the thread about bind
taking a long time to start. Maybe you are having problems resolving
the named of the remove machines specified in the fstab?

   


That may be. Perhaps if I gave it more time after boot? I notice that 
when I do mount /mnt/srv1, srvr2 magically comes up. Both are set in 
fstab as in F10/11.


Tnx.

Bob

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Re: Another preupgrade disaster -

2009-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 20/11/09 21:01, stan wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:43:36 -0500
Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net  wrote:

   

On 20/11/09 17:29, David Timms wrote:
 

On 11/21/2009 08:50 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

Don't know what that means. Why does it want the root for the
previous system?
 

The root in this case refers to the top level of your filesystem
tree /. It can't find it.

Can you post: cat /boot/grub/grub.conf [r...@box6 ~]# cat
/boot/grub/grub.conf
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to
this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd0,0)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro
root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root #
initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda
default=1
timeout=10
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Upgrade to Fedora 12 (Constantine)
   

 root (hd0,0)
   

 kernel /upgrade/vmlinuz preupgrade
repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade
stage2=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/install.img
ks=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/ks.cfg
 initrd /upgrade/initrd.img
   

I don't know about the rest of what you posted, but this seems to be
missing the root (hd0,0) line.  Maybe preupgrade takes it from the next
stanza???

   

title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 ro
root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root
 initrd /initrd-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586.img
   
   
Well whatever, I added that line as shown below, but still get the same 
error when I run preupgrade.


   #boot=/dev/sda
   default=1
   timeout=10
   splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
   hiddenmenu
   title Upgrade to Fedora 12 (Constantine)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /upgrade/vmlinuz preupgrade
   repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade
   stage2=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/install.img
   ks=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/ks.cfg
initrd /upgrade/initrd.img
   title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 ro
   root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root
initrd /initrd-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586.img
   title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i586)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i586 ro
   root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root
initrd /initrd-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i586.img
   title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586 ro
   root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root
initrd /initrd-2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586.img



However when I run fdisk on that computer it shows two drives flagged as 
boot. It boots from /dev/sdb. And I see there is an error in the 
partitioning on /dev/sda. I wonder if that can cause confusion? It 
certainly hasn't bothered F-11, I never noticed before. I would have 
tried removing the other boot * but I'm not sure if telling it to 
write that will cause other problems, with it all being lvm I don't know 
if anything is written to that disk that I need? I have a strong 
temptation to run fdisk and fix that! Any suggestions ...


   cat fdisk.txt

   #fdisk.txt

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/sda1   *   1  26  204800   83  Linux
   Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
   /dev/sda2  26   30401   243991201   8e  Linux LVM


   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/sdb1   *   1  13  104391   83  Linux
   /dev/sdb2  14972978043770   8e  Linux LVM

Also I never removed the parts of grub.conf that refer to the kernels I 
removed before starting this exercise.


Bob

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Re: Another preupgrade disaster -

2009-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 21/11/09 11:49, stan wrote:

I haven't got anything more to offer for preupgrade help.  Maybe
someone eles can give you more help, or you can find a bugzilla that
has your error at http://bugzilla.redhat.com .  Good luck.

   


   Thanks for the help, it's been another interesting experience for me
   but I'm about ready to give up on what I have.

   I fixed the partition problems with fdisk, after which I could no
   longer boot F-11 much less install F-12. Apparently it was booting
   from that disk. And apparently the livecd doesn't work as a rescue
   disk. I have the F-12 livecd and will bite the bullet and go through
   the same routine I've done so many times before with an install from
   scratch.

   I could try other things but hate to waste bandwidth downloading
   disk 1 just to get a rescue function with which I might not
   succeed anyway.

   Bob




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Re: liveusb-creator -

2009-11-19 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 19/11/09 14:51, Bob Goodwin wrote:

   I have been messing with this for several hours now, actually since
   yesterday, and can't seem to install livecd on a thumb drive. In
   desperation I re-formatted it ext3. That didn't help. I can cp and
   delete normal files but liveusb-creator is never happy with it?

   [r...@box9 ~]# mount
   shows:
   /dev/sdc1 on /mnt/Fedora type ext3 (rw)

   But when I click on Create Live USB it displays the following:

   Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso selected

   Verifying filesystem...

   Unknown filesystem for %s. Your device may need to be reformatted.

   LiveUSB creation failed!

   Unknown filesystem for %s. Your device may need to be reformatted.


   Reformatted? I believe it's supposed to work with ext3. It was FAT
   originally and that produced the same error!

   What am I doing wrong?

   This is not critical, I could use a CD, But I've put a lot of time
   into this and hate to give up.

   Bob.



   After trying to do this from command line and with the GUI, I
   plugged in a different thumb drive and things immediately worked
   as expected!

   I should have known, I had the other stick because it wouldn't
   work in my daughter's Mac. It always worked for me before but
   not this time.

   Bob


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Re: liveusb-creator -

2009-11-19 Thread Bob Goodwin



   On 19/11/09 17:35, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net  writes:
   

LiveUSB creation failed!

Unknown filesystem for %s. Your device may need to be reformatted.
 

If you haven't already done so you may want to start from the beginning
and assume the usb stick has trash for a disklabel and needs to have
that rewritten also.  Then you need to mark it as ext3 and finally
mkfs.ext3 the partition.

Simplest way to do all the above is to yum install gparted, have it
delete any partitions it finds.  Then have it create a label with one
partition that spans the whole drive, label it as ext3 and format as
ext3.  (I just needed to do that for an f12 install on a dvdless
netbook.  Don't ask me why the liveusb creator doesn't just do all
that. It isn't likely that many folks installing a Linux OS for the
first time are going to be able to figure out all the above.)

-wolfgang
   


   I think I did essentially the same thing, I used fdisk to
   reformat the drive as Linux [83] then did mkfs ext3.

   I was able to copy a text file to it, display the file, and then
   remove it. Everything seemed to work, I just couldn't copy the
   F12 LiveCD iso to it with livecd-tools or liveusb-creator. It
   was a 2 gig stick containing no other files.

   Put the other stick in and it worked. Obviously there's
   something wrong, perhaps with my process? I have another
   computer running F12 on the thumb drive now. Next to decide if I
   want to install from that or try an upgrade procedure. I always
   have to consider bandwidth usage sine I am limited by Wildblue
   to 17 gigs/30days. I'm presently around six gigs used! That's
   why I've been installing from the livecd versions and just
   adding what I want.

   Thanks for the response.

   Bob




   livecd-tools

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Live CD install -

2009-11-17 Thread Bob Goodwin


   Can I run Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso from my nfs server without copying
   it to a CDROM?

   I don't see anything in the Bios setup that seems applicable. Looks
   like it has to be a CD or a USB device [thumb drive I assume].

   If so where do I look for instructions to do that?

   Bob


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Need to add date to script -

2009-11-12 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I have a simple bash script that lists my internet usage in gigs,
   the first three lines are data downloaded, the second three data
   uploaded, 17.0 g and 5.0 g respectively are the upper limit for 30
   days..

   cat /home/bobg/usg.txt   /home/bobg/usg1.sav

   Listing that -
   cat /home/bobg/usg1.sav

   produces a long list which I haven't been able to do much with due
   to my limited knowledge.

   30 %
   5.2
   17.0
   9 %
   0.4
   5.0
   30 %
   5.0
   17.0
   9 %
   0.4
   5.0

   I would like to have a date command inserted to separate each
   group of six lines. Can some one tell me how to do that or point me
   in the right direction.

   This is an updated F-11 computer.

   Bob

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Re: Need to add date to script -

2009-11-12 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 12/11/09 12:44, Steven Stern wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 11/12/2009 11:19 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

I have a simple bash script that lists my internet usage in gigs,
the first three lines are data downloaded, the second three data
uploaded, 17.0 g and 5.0 g respectively are the upper limit for 30
days..

cat /home/bobg/usg.txt   /home/bobg/usg1.sav

Listing that -
cat /home/bobg/usg1.sav

produces a long list which I haven't been able to do much with due
to my limited knowledge.

30 %
5.2
17.0
9 %
0.4
5.0
30 %
5.0
17.0
9 %
0.4
5.0

I would like to have a date command inserted to separate each
group of six lines. Can some one tell me how to do that or point me
in the right direction.

This is an updated F-11 computer.

Bob

 


   date  /home/bobg/usg1.save  cat /home/bobg/usg.txt
/home/bobg/usg1.sav

If you want it in a different format, man date and look at the format
options.

- -- 

   


Steve





Thanks Steve and Chris. I wont tell you how much time I've spent
messing with that problem, simple for you perhaps, but not for me.
I do however learn a little each time and keep notes and can
expand on what I learn.

Bob

PS: Can't send right now, rain blocking k-band path to satellite.




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shutdown problem -

2009-11-07 Thread Bob Goodwin


   After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this
   computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just
   stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and
   got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no
   effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same
   when next shutdown.

   Am I alone in this?

   Bob


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Re: shutdown problem -

2009-11-07 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this
computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just
stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and
got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no
effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same
when next shutdown.

Am I alone in this?
 

I don't know if you are alone.  I just know that I'm not in the same
situation.  Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without
problem.  I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit.

   


   Ok, thanks for the response. I will disable fail2ban and have
   another go at it. But first the morning chores, dogs to walk, hungry
   horses,  etc..

   Bob


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Re: shutdown problem -

2009-11-07 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this
computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just
stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and
got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no
effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same
when next shutdown.

Am I alone in this?
 

I don't know if you are alone.  I just know that I'm not in the same
situation.  Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without
problem.  I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit.

   


   The only way I found to disable fail2ban was yum remove. Did that
   and the problem cleared, the shutdown runs as usual again. I have a
   second F-11 computer, similar to this one which I will update and
   see what happens with it. I believe I also installed fail2ban on it.

   Bob


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Re: shutdown problem -

2009-11-07 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this
computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just
stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and
got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no
effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same
when next shutdown.

Am I alone in this?
 

I don't know if you are alone.  I just know that I'm not in the same
situation.  Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without
problem.  I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit.

   


   I updated the second computer and it displays the same problem. The
   system stops at  Stopping fail2ban and I have no control after
   that. About all it does it acknowledge Control-Alt-Delete pressed!
   I can bring up another terminal and it asks me to loin but does not
   accept keystrokes. I will have to remove fail2ban in order to
   restore normal operation ...

   Oh-ho, it finally appears to have recovered and is now presenting me
   with a login screen. I logged in and entered poweroff and it is
   stuck at stopping fail2ban again.

   It stayed there six minutes and then shut down normally from that point.

   Bob



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Re: How to list this data -

2009-11-01 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 31/10/09 20:42, Suvayu Ali wrote:

If it correlates with the Wildblue data, even approximately, it would
work for me. But then I have other computers in the house on this
system. Might be able to take data before the router with an eth. hub
perhaps?


I am not sure whether vnstat can monitor something outside the box 
like a hub or a router. But if at your house all the traffic goes 
through one of the machines, then you can specify the interface to 
monitor with the option `--iface _interface_'.


Good luck figuring this out :)


Thanks.

Bob


The information is still of interest to me even though it only refers to 
my computers, all of which go through one switch. I am always interested 
in knowing what part of the usage is mine. Presently I can only infer 
that! We have five users on four computer [actually 2 more for a total 
of 6 since I have three connected to the LAN]. The common point is the 
Netgear wireless router located in a different part of the house.


Bob

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Re: How to list this data -

2009-11-01 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 01/11/09 02:54, Joachim Backes wrote:

cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n  



   [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n  

   35 % 6.0 17.0 8 % 0.4 5.0

That's the best solution yet. Not sure what it's doing but will look at 
the man page again when I am fully awake.


Thanks.

Bob

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Re: How to list this data -

2009-11-01 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 01/11/09 03:31, Joachim Backes wrote:

On 11/01/2009 09:25 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 01/11/09 02:54, Joachim Backes wrote:

cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n  



 [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n  

 35 % 6.0 17.0 8 % 0.4 5.0

That's the best solution yet. Not sure what it's doing but will look at
the man page again when I am fully awake.

Thanks.

Bob



The tr command reads from stdin (that's the output of cat) and 
transforms all new line chars to blanks (see man tr), so all lines 
will be concatenated (by a blank char) to *one* line.





Yes, I kept wondering, if there was a way to change the new line to a 
space, tab, comma, whatever but I couldn't see how. Obviously I lack the 
skill to do the things I want ...


Thanks to all.

Bob

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How to list this data -

2009-10-31 Thread Bob Goodwin


I can extract the following usage data from the Wildblue html usage screen.
I would like to have them in a file that would put the data on a 
horizontal line separated by some white space perhaps.


My objective being to keep a record of daily bandwidth usage. [35% or 
6.0 gB is my current usage, 17.0 the 30 day download allotment, the 
other numbers for upload usage.]


   [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt

   35 %
   6.0
   17.0
   8 %
   0.4
   5.0

I've been puzzling over this since yesterday, I'm sure there must be a 
simple solution but I just haven't found it.


Can someone point me in the right direction?

Bob



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Re: How to list this data -

2009-10-31 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 31/10/09 14:55, Hiisi wrote:

2009/10/31 Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net:
   

I can extract the following usage data from the Wildblue html usage screen.
I would like to have them in a file that would put the data on a horizontal
line separated by some white space perhaps.

My objective being to keep a record of daily bandwidth usage. [35% or 6.0 gB
is my current usage, 17.0 the 30 day download allotment, the other numbers
for upload usage.]

   [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt

   35 %
   6.0
   17.0
   8 %
   0.4
   5.0

I've been puzzling over this since yesterday, I'm sure there must be a
simple solution but I just haven't found it.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Bob



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Perhaps there's some command. I don't remember. You could do it using
simple script. Something like that:
#!/bin/bash
cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | while read line; do
printf $line
done

Place it in a text file and make it executable (chmod +xfile_name)

   
That looks like a step in the right direction, the results aren't pretty 
but I'll try with it some more.


Thank you

Bob

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Re: How to list this data -

2009-10-31 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 31/10/09 15:19, Hiisi wrote:


Google for bash printf usage. It should be something like printf
format  arguments
Using that you can make your output human readable.
   


Ok, I'll look there.

Tnx

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Re: How to list this data -

2009-10-31 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 31/10/09 19:11, Suvayu Ali wrote:

Hi Bob,

On Saturday 31 October 2009 11:41 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:


My objective being to keep a record of daily bandwidth usage. [35% or
6.0 gB is my current usage, 17.0 the 30 day download allotment, the
other numbers for upload usage.]


I know this is not the answer to your question but since you mention 
you want to monitor your bandwidth usage, you could try vnstat[1]. Its 
a very nifty light weight utility which keeps track of your network 
traffic by running cron jobs at small intervals of time[2] and 
presents all the information in neat graphs on the console.


Yes that looks interesting, new to me ...

If it correlates with the Wildblue data, even approximately, it would 
work for me. But then I have other computers in the house on this 
system. Might be able to take data before the router with an eth. hub 
perhaps?


Thanks.

Bob

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Can't edit text -

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice
   word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything?

   I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust
   me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't
   see where to change it.

   Am I alone in this, can anyone tell me what I need to do?

   Bob



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Re: Can't edit text -

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/10/09 10:17, Daniel J Celta wrote:

Bob
Look into the permissions by using the 'chmod' command.
You may need to pull the man pages to understand the sintax of how to 
use it.



Daniel J Celta


I've been changing permissions, I know well how to do that but hate to 
change things willy-nilly.


Nothing I have changed so far has helped. I haven't had this problems 
with any other applications, just OO!


Thanks for your response.

Bob

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Re: Can't edit text -

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/10/09 10:36, Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:45 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice
word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything?

I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust
me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't
see where to change it.
 

Are you working on other people's files?  Are you one of those people
who log in as root?

   
The files are for user bobg. Neither computer has ever been booted to 
root. Obviously there are many things that must be done as su. I don't 
think the OO install is one of them. Both systems were originally 
installed from the Omega live cd but I don't recall if OO comes with it 
or not. But I have had to install a lot of other app's and have had no 
such trouble.


Bob

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Re: Can't edit text -

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/10/09 11:11, Fennix wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net 
mailto:bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:


On 28/10/09 10:36, Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:45 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:

I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the
OpenOffice
word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit
anything?

I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it
doesn't trust
me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but
I can't
see where to change it.

Are you working on other people's files?  Are you one of those
people
who log in as root?


The files are for user bobg. Neither computer has ever been
booted to root. Obviously there are many things that must be done
as su. I don't think the OO install is one of them. Both systems
were originally installed from the Omega live cd but I don't
recall if OO comes with it or not. But I have had to install a lot
of other app's and have had no such trouble.

Bob


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I have seen like this before when files have been copied back from 
CD/DVD and are flagged as read-only.  I know that you have not said 
that you had done this.  I know that you have checked the ownership. 
 My last several version upgrades have been done using preupgrade.  My 
data home is on another disk separate from the currently installed 
home and I have never seen these symptoms except when having copied 
data back from archival (read-only) media.  Hope this helps think of 
something


Fennix

This file was copied from OO in F-10 but I have set the permissions to 776:

   [b...@box9 ootext]$ ll
   total 12
   -rwxrwxrw-. 1 bobg root 9554 2009-10-07 09:42 bp-meds.090827.odt

Bob


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Re: Can't edit text -

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/10/09 11:54, Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 11:29 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

This file was copied from OO in F-10 but I have set the permissions to
776:

 [b...@box9 ootext]$ ll
 total 12
 -rwxrwxrw-. 1 bobg root 9554 2009-10-07 09:42 bp-meds.090827.odt
 

The group ownership is rather telling.  Why is there a root in there?
And what do you mean by copied from OO?  Open a file from one place in
OpenOffice.org and saved to somewhere else?  Something else?  What's the
process that your files have been through from initial creation to you
working on them?  Any backups in the middle?  And, if so, how were they
done?

None of *my* files ever get root in the user or group ownerships.

   
The origins of this file are long lost. It probably began as a 
StarOffice file, I don't remember. It's a form I use to keep track of 
the pills I take. Routine stuff that is easily lost track of, did I or 
didn't I? It has been modified numerous times over the last ten years or 
so as med's change, etc. I probably changed permissions and owner, 
usually all I want is to print ten more copies and do whatever it takes 
to get it done.


The problem was with the directory ootext which apparently had it's 
permissions corrupted somehow when I transferred it from the F-10 
computer. I don't know what I might have done wrong but I removed the 
directory and created a new one with the same name.


   [b...@box9 ~]$ ll /home/bobg/ootext

   -rw-rw-r--. 1 bobg bobg 9425 2009-10-28 15:01 bp-meds-091028.odt

   OpenOffice no longer treats it as read only. It should not have
   taken me that long to find the problem but I thought it was
   something in the OpenOffice configuration and wasted time on that
   tangent.

Thanks for the help.

Bob

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Re: Can't edit text -

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/10/09 15:05, Steve Searle wrote:

Around 01:45pm on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 (UK time), Bob Goodwin scrawled:

   

I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice
word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything?

I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust
me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't
see where to change it.

Am I alone in this, can anyone tell me what I need to do?
 

I saw similar symptoms a while back.

Are the files on the local machine, or are they on an NFS mount?  If the
latter, try (temporarily) taking down the firewall on the server.

If that works, look here for more details:
http://www.stevesearle.com/tech/faq.html#nfs0010

Steve

   
I don't remember how I copied them but I had all the old F-10 files on 
the nfs server and quite likely took them from there. At any rate I've 
got things working with some external stimulation from this mailing list.


Thanks again

Bob

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Re: Can't edit text -

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 28/10/09 17:12, James Wilkinson wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice
word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything?

I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust
me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't
see where to change it.

Am I alone in this, can anyone tell me what I need to do?

 

Have you checked SELinux: do you have setroubleshoot installed?

James.
   


I guess I do, not sure how to tell but when I do locate setroubleshoot 
it produces a long list of files. I haven't had any selinux error 
messages since installing F-11.


My problems appear to occur when I transfer files via sftp. That changed 
the owner to root. I created a new directory as user bobg and moved 
the files to it, then removed the original directory and recreated it as 
bobg and put the files back in and things work normally. I imagine all 
that really needs to be done is to change the owner, the permissions 
were ok.


Things are working and I know how to cause the problem, another case of 
knowing what doesn't work. I'm sure it is the result of doing something 
wrong with sftp. That will take some more investigation I've transferred 
a lot of iles that way without a problem?


Bob



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Re: OT: ATX 4P power socket

2009-10-17 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 17/10/09 09:05, Tim wrote:

On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 11:48 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote:
   

they do not sell it completely, but in parts. The crimping tool costs
~10x the price of my mobo.
 

You could look for another broken board to rat the part from.


   


   Normally the crimping tool is required for the cable end not the
   mother board side of the connector. It might help to know
   exactly what sort of damage has been done. If it is just the
   plastic shell on a four pin molex connector then just plug the
   wires onto the pins and forget about it!

   An inexperienced person may do more damage attempting the
   replacement.

   Bob


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Presto, a comment -

2009-10-02 Thread Bob Goodwin


That certainly eases the pain for those of us who are limited in how 
much b.w. we can use each month! I've been putting off the updates 'til now.


   Finishing rebuild of rpms, from deltarpms
   delta rebuild  | 101
   MB 00:02
   Presto reduced the updates to 27 M from 101 M which is a 74% savings.
   Package(s) data still to download: 12 M

Bob

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Re: Your favourite Flash websites and testing Gnash

2009-10-01 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 01/10/09 01:23, Konstantin Svist wrote:

On 09/30/2009 08:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi,

I am running the Gnash browser plugin for the past few days and it seems
to work well for the websites that I use (YouTube et all).  I am curious
if anyone else has used it recently and if so what has been your
experiences? Can you give the list of your favourite websites that use
Flash considerably?

If you want to test it,

# yum remove flash-plugin
# yum install gnash-plugin

Restart Firefox, confirm with about:plugins and check.

Rahul



I installed it just like that and firefox confirms it's there in 
about:plugins, but whenever I open some page with flash, firefox 
behaves as if nothing is there
I've tried disabling adobe flash (in plugins) and setting the swf 
handler to gnash, and still nothing





I get the following error message when I go to 
http://puzzles.usatoday.com/. But then the adobe flash doesn't work 
properly either in this F-11 computer. I have to use F-10 in another box 
to print puzzles that require flash. .


   Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol
   (printasbitmap) isn't associated with any program.


Bob

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nfsnobody ?

2009-09-08 Thread Bob Goodwin


My daughter loaded a bunch of vacation pictures [du -h shows 5.7G} on to 
my Linux nfs server from her Mac portable via our wireless LAN last night.


I can see that the files are there but I can't view them directly, in 
fact I can only list directories part way through the tree and they are 
long directory names!


However although I can't view them as root either I can copy the files 
to this computer and view the images with gthumb. The owner changes in 
the copying process which appears to be what makes them accessible to me.


I don't quite understand how this all works, I've messed with owners and 
groups before when I observed this problem without success. I certainly 
don't want to copy all those files to this computer just to look at a 
few pix.


For example:

   [b...@box9 ~]$ ll
   /mnt/srvr2/HOLIDAY-SanFRANCISCO-24Aug-3Sep-2009/04-Holiday-27-Aug-2009/
   total 108
   drwxrwxrwx. 2 nfsnobody nfsnobody 106496 2009-09-04 19:01
   00-ADJ-MuirWoods-Sausalito-Coastal-Redwoods


How do I deal with the owner nfsnobody?

Any help appreciated ...

Bob

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Re: nfsnobody ?

2009-09-08 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 08/09/09 05:29, Jussi Lehtola wrote:


It seems the user mapping failed and thus the default guest user
'nfsnobody' was used to access the server. (r/w as guest is a possible
security issue.)

If you can't list the directories all the way down, the permissions
aren't correct. You can run
  # chmod o=rX -R /path/to/photos
to give users not in the nfsnobody group read access to the photos (and
the necessary execute permissions to the directories). To change the
ownership run
  # chown someuser: -R /path/to/photos
   


   One thing that puzzles me is that I can put files on the server from
   this F-11 box without a hitch, permissions just work but her Mac is
   showing up with the nfsnobody files? I guess I need to find why
   that's happening, my problem or hers?

   Ok, I will look at these things again but even using su - it
   didn't let me chown to bobg?

   I'll have a go at t again later.

   Thank you.

   Bob


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Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-07 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 06/09/09 08:00, David Boles wrote:

On 9/6/2009 7:47 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
   

On 06/09/09 12:31, David Boles wrote:
--snip--
 


You guys are making this hard. Don't 'unzip' the package. 'open' it with
the default archive tool, edit the install.rdf file (open it with a test
editor, when you 'save' the edited install.rdf you will be prompted to
(I forget which it is) add or replace the edited file *in* the package.
Install the edited .xpi package in Thunderbird.


   

Thanks David.
Indeed less work
 


You're welcome. My pleasure.
   



   I think I found the simplest solution to my problem! In Thunderbird
   Edit  Preferences  Advanced  Config Editor I changed
   mailnews.display.date_sender from false to true. [A good guess] I
   now have the sender's time and offset in his local time as well as
   my local time set in the list of messages. The only thing missing
   from previous versions is the day of week which changes with
   geographic location. I am probably a bit eccentric in needing this
   information but ... if it's not there I miss it.

   Thanks for the help, I learn something from everything I do even if
   it doesn't work out as expected.

   Bob



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Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin


I've replaced F-10 on this computer with F-11 using the Omega live cd 
and so far everything seems perfect for the stuff that I use. One of the 
easiest Linux installs yet! And a lot of bandwidth was saved in doing 
the updates! That's an important factor with the limited bandwidth usage 
allocated by my ISP.


The version of Thunderbird provided however is not compatible with the 
config date add-on which I want in order to display 24 hour local 
times for both the sender and myself. The patch is not available for 
this version. What to do? It appears that I need to replace with version 
2.-something. Is there something I am missing here, am I unique in 
needing 24 hour time displayed?


   [b...@box9 ~]$ yum whatprovides */thunderbird
   thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 : Mozilla Thunderbird
   mail/newsgroup client
   Repo: installed
   Matched from:
   Filename: /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b3/thunderbird
   Filename: /usr/bin/thunderbird



   [b...@box9 ~]$ yum whatprovides */thunderbird-2.*
   Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
   No Matches found

Any suggestions?

Bob

This should be in plain text if I have the configuration set right.

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Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 06/09/09 05:10, David Boles wrote:



Nightly Tester Tools

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6543
   


There's a lot of stuff there but I found nothing relative to my problem ...

Of course I may not know how to deal with that site either?

Bob


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Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 06/09/09 05:42, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:

On 06/09/09 10:35, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

On 06/09/09 05:10, David Boles wrote:
 


Nightly Tester Tools

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6543

   

There's a lot of stuff there but I found nothing relative to my problem ...

Of course I may not know how to deal with that site either?

Bob


 

The Nightly Tester Tools
will force your date plugin to install :)
install the Nightly tester.

   

It still wont install, I click on Force Install but it doesn't install -

   ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible
   with Thunderbird 3.0b3.



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Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 06/09/09 06:02, g wrote:

hey bob,

still trying to get 24 hr with out searching first, eh? :D
   


How much searching do you suggest I do before asking?



Bob Goodwin wrote:

   

Any suggestions?
 

have a look at these links. granted, 3.0b1pre, but may be worth a try;
   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/901

then;
   http://www.thunderbird-mail.de/wiki/ConfigDate_(English)


   

This is all stuff I have read.

Thanks

Bob

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Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 06/09/09 06:22, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:

On 06/09/09 11:13, Bob Goodwin wrote:
--snip--
   

The Nightly Tester Tools
will force your date plugin to install :)
install the Nightly tester.


   

It still wont install, I click on Force Install but it doesn't install -

ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Thunderbird 3.0b3.
 

Just tested same result.

Now the old fashioned way.
1: Extract the contects of
configdate-0.6.1-tb.xpi
2: edit
install.rdf
3: change
  em:maxVersion3.0b1pre/em:maxVersion
to 3.1

4: save new install.rdf

Now repakage contents to configdate-0.6.1.-tb-modified.xpi
(keep safe for future use)

   

I think I did every thing right and:

ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible 
with Thunderbird 3.0b3.


I guess I need to zip the file before saving as an xpi

I'm not sure it's worth all this, might have been easier to install an 
earlier version ot T-bird!



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Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 06/09/09 06:54, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:

On 06/09/09 11:50, Bob Goodwin wrote:
--snip--
   


   

I think I did every thing right and:

ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Thunderbird 3.0b3.

I guess I need to zip the file before saving as an xpi
 

Yes, save all under the folder as *.zip, then renmae *.zip to *.xpi

   

I'm not sure it's worth all this, might have been easier to install an
earlier version ot T-bird!

 

You could, I just yesterday updated to TB 3.0b3
Whether you can still get 3.x on a mirror?
F10 only has 2.x iirc




   

Yes, I've been using F10 for a while and the 2.x t-bird was quite
satisfactory. I don't see any advantage to this version yet?

I gzipped the file but it still wont fly!

   Thunderbird could not install the file at

   file:///home/bobg/Download/configdate-0.6.1.-tb-modified.xpi

   because: Not a valid install package
   -207

I have hungry horses standing at the gate waiting for breakfast. I think 
I need a break too, been at this since four.


Thanks much for your help. Will pursue it further ...

Bob


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F-11 live cd downloads ?

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Goodwin


   Is there a live cd download of F-11 available that has some updates
   applied already,
   preferably not via bittorrent?

   I am trying to save some bandwidth ...

   Bob


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Re: F-11 live cd downloads ?

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Goodwin

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 08/31/2009 10:39 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
  

   Is there a live cd download of F-11 available that has some updates
   applied already,
   preferably not via bittorrent?

   I am trying to save some bandwidth ...



I have a remix available.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.core.announce/2595

Rahul

  


Thank you, I am downloading a copy.

Bob

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Re: F-11 live cd downloads ?

2009-08-31 Thread Bob Goodwin

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

I have a remix available.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.core.announce/2595

Rahul

  
I downloaded a copy, put it on a CD and it appears to run without any 
problems.
Next to make sure I've copied everything I need from one F-10 computer 
and I will
use it to install F-11, add xfce etc. I should have fewer updates to 
deal with.


Thanks for your effort.

Bob

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No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -

2009-08-28 Thread Bob Goodwin


After doing an update this morning which included a 23 meg Thunderbird 
file I can no longer copy and paste image files into an HTML e-mail 
message, as I have been doing for a long time. I wasted more than an 
hour with this, rebooted two computers, and finally had to Save as 
from Firefox [a satellite .jpg file and a storm tracking chart .gif] 
after which I could insert the saved images. That makes the process more 
cumbersome.


Using the normal, for me anyway, copy and paste [from Firefox] I would 
get a never ending message that it was attaching the image file.


Just curious to know if I am the only one bothered by this?

This is an updated F-10 and T'bird 2.0.0.23.

Bob

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Re: No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -

2009-08-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

jack craig wrote:
you might want to try tbird 3.x, works fine for me... 


Via yum for F-10?

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Re: No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -

2009-08-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

jack craig wrote:
oops, missed your using fc10, i am on fc11 with 
thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586.


this beta got installed with my fc11 upgrade, but its much better than 
the 2.0 for my usage.


my apology for the poor suggestion, jackc... 


I thank you anyway.

I'm reluctant to give up F-10. It works well, thought I'd give F-11 some 
time to get sorted out. But eventually ...


Bob


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Re: No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -

2009-08-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

suvayu ali wrote:

2009/8/28 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net:
  

jack craig wrote:


oops, missed your using fc10, i am on fc11 with
thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586.

this beta got installed with my fc11 upgrade, but its much better than the
2.0 for my usage.

my apology for the poor suggestion, jackc...
  

I thank you anyway.

I'm reluctant to give up F-10. It works well, thought I'd give F-11 some
time to get sorted out. But eventually ...

Bob



You can try installing just Thunderbird from the F11 repos.  If the
dependencies are not too many, you should be able to go ahead with it.
I was using Emacs 23 from rawhide on F11 like that before it was
pushed to the F11 repos.

  
I didn't find the F-11 rpm but I did find the tar'd version [3.ob3] and 
have that where I can run it. It seems to work but I will have to give 
it more time. So far so good.


Bob

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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Goodwin

William M. Quarles wrote:

Fernando Cassia wrote:



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, William M. Quarles 
wal...@bellsouth.net mailto:wal...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that
I can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP
Atheros-based wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs
REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP
Pro and in Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot
setup, I couldn't get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any
ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
William


I don't currently use Wi-Fi on my desktop(s)... since I cabled my 
home with five gigabit-ethernet sockets per room. :-)


But when I did use Wi-Fi, I used cardbus cards hooked to 
pci-to-cardbus adapters.


Here's some:

Addonics ADPCICB2 - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B00023LTKK 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B00023LTKK 



And
D-Link A/G Wi-Fi Cardbus adapter - $11.78
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C 



Total: $60.78

This also gives you the flexibility of exchanging Wi-Fi cards when 
new standards arrive, or exchanging cards in case of trouble, without 
opening up the case.


(Cardbus cards are, for all intents and purposes, the same as PCI)


Well, except for the fact you can remove a Cardbus adapter while the 
computer is still running with little trouble.


Thanks for the tip, but I'd still be much more interested in a PCI 
card... although I do have the urge to add a Cardbus adapter later for 
a professional recording Cardbus sound card, so that I can also use 
the card on my laptop. I think that you might have overpaid for that 
PCI=to-Cardbus adaptor though, I could have sworn that I have seen 
them at a lower price before.


Does anybody out there know of some good PCI wireless netowkring cards 
that aren't Atheros-based?


Thanks,
William

Of course, there's also USB Wi-Fi dongles but in my experience those 
don't match the range of cardbus cards (antenna design, or power 
limits, perhaps?).


Wireless Ethernet bridges are really the best way to go in my opinion. 
No driver problems, easy to configure from a browser, and  also function 
as a four port swithc.  Buffalo has one that is either a bridge or a 
router. All are available at discounted prices. Cost a little more than 
a pci card but with none of the headaches ... i can set one  up on my 
Linux box and use it on the Mac and Windows computers as well with no 
further effort, just plug int the Ethernet port. It acts like a wired 
connection.


http://www.buffalotech.com/products/wireless/nfiniti-wireless-n-dual-band/nfiniti-wireless-n-dual-band-ethernet-converter-wli-tx4-ag300n/

http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Technology-WHR-HP-G54-Wireless-G-Performance/dp/tech-data/B000AOKTJ8/ref=de_a_smtd

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Dual-Band-Wireless-N-Gaming-Adapter/dp/B0010TEOLQ/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2#productPromotions

Bob

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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-22 Thread Bob Goodwin

William M. Quarles wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:52 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote:

it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2
decoder card


Have you tried the obvious of moving the cards between slots.  Some
conflicts are just because of shared IRQs (some slots share IRQs with
other slots, or other on-board hardware).



Yes, and I have also tried reassigning the IRQs with the BIOS to fully 
make sure that they don't conflict. I still could not get them to work 
together, so I am pretty sure that it is not an IRQ problem. Neither 
OS locks up until it has loaded the drivers for both cards.




i would suggest that you look at wireless Ethernet bridges. I have three 
of them on our home LAN and they are the simplest to configure, no 
drivers needed. I have some brand new PCI card adapters still in the 
boxes, gave up on them long ago.


The Ethernet bridges are configured from your browser. I have one from 
Linksys and two from Buffalo, the latest  Nfiniti wireless-N dual Band 
Ethernet controller according to the box which I am looking at as I 
type this. Set one up and you can plug any computer into it, as I said 
no drivers to install, and in fact I have three computers and a laser 
printer connected to the four ports on this newest one.


My 2¢ worth.

Bob

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Unable to kill runaway app. -

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Goodwin

I just had perhaps the third occurrence of this problem.

I tried to shut down gthumb which was displaying a a photo from the nfs 
server. It would not shut down, at least not in a reasonable amount if 
time. Gkrellm showed cup1 running at max. and top indicated the cup at 
99.5%. Something did eventually time out but that did not calm the cup 
activity.: .


   3487 bobg  20   0  2928 1068  932 R 99.5  0.0 445:55.55 gam_server

Kill 3487 does not stop it. In fact nothing seems to. I told it to 
poweroff and it got as far as halting system and stayed there until I 
pressed the power button for five seconds or so.


This happened once last night and it sat there saying it was busy, the 
power button was required to kill it then too.


I don't expect anyone to troubleshoot the problem but would like to know 
what other commands I might try to restore things without shutting down 
and rebooting.


This is an F-10 system pretty much up to date, certainly all security 
updates and perhaps all the rest, I've lost track at the moment. I 
suspect the problem is related to some horse photo files from my 
daughters Mac. But I need a way to stop things when this happens ...


Any help appreciated.

Bob

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