Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
On 28/12/09 20:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's a kernel boot parameter, append it at the end of the kernel line in grub.conf Another thing that I've noticed -- if you have a leftover /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the previous Fedora release, rename xorg.conf and restart, letting X start with a default configuration. I haven't yet fully verified it, but even if I boot with the unmodified kernel boot line, after removing xorg.conf, it looks like power management also starts working. . I tried in both the grub GUI and /boot/grub/grub.conf. In neither case did the screen blank after five minutes as it is set to do. title Omega 12.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root noiswmd LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us --nomodeset This was a new install of F-12 from the Omega-live on usb flash drive so there should be no artifacts of the last Fedora version. Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
On 29/12/09 07:14, Sam Varshavchik wrote: You did not specify nomodeset. You specified --nomodeset. Remove the dashes. Ok, I had another go at it, let the computer run that way while I had some breakfast, at least half an hour, but it did not blank the screen. title Omega 12.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root noiswmd LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us nomodeset initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.img Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
On 27/12/09 20:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote: After updating to FC12, the monitor on one of my servers no longer turned off when the console was idle. This wasn't the end of the world, so I didn't give this much importance. This weekend I had some extra time to spare, and I've now determined that if I boot with nomodeset, the monitor properly goes into powersave mode. That seems to be the only difference. Everything works fine either way, except that by default DPMS does not work automatically. I thought that, perhaps, with the oddball video card on this older server (mach64 chipset) DPMS is not implemented when the video card is in VESA mode, but I can run 'xset dpms force off', and the monitor goes into powersave mode immediately. Is this a bug, or, despite the fact that DPMS is apparently working, in VESA mode, this may not be supported on my hardware? This F-12 desktop computer never shuts down the monitor either, I've checked the screen saver settings several times and it's set to five minutes, should just blank the screen to black, the preview check works, I even switched from xfce to gnome and see the same setting. The monitor itself offers no feature to blank the screen when idle, I just checked the OSD menu looking for that, a Dell LCD. It worked as expected on all earlier Fedoras. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
On 28/12/09 17:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote: xset dpms force off If running 'xset dpms force off' puts your monitor into powersave mode immediately, and if you boot with 'nomodeset', and that makes powersave work for you again automatically, then you have the same bug. After pondering this, since 'xset dpms force off' works to put the monitor into powersave mode, then this has to be a bug. I just need to figure out what to file a bug against: gnome-power-manager, x.org, or kernel. Yes when I do xset dpms force off The screen goes black which is what it should do if the screen saver worked.. To do nomodeset I will have to reboot is suppose but not sure how to apply that, startx --nomodeset perhaps or do I have to do it in grub? Yes, you say boot with it. Not sure where to put it in grub. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox/Flash print problem -
On 26/12/09 21:51, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Bob Goodwin writes: This is an updated F-12 computer, in fact I have two and both have the same problem printing from flash in Firefox. When I ask it to print the menu comes up allowing me to select the printer and that accepts my selection, but no matter which of three printers I select it only prints to the default printer designated in system-config-printer! Crossword puzzles collected as .pdf files print to whatever printer I select. Printing from the command line works normally too. Any suggestions on correcting this are welcome. In about:config, check the print.postscript.print_command and print.print_command settings. If something is set for them, reset them to their default values. These are shown as set to the default settings.. print.postscript.print_command;lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} print.print_command;lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} I would assume that -P$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME is what forces the default printer but I have no idea how to change that? It's not a killer of a problem and I can live with it but it just struck me as not being right! At first I thought I had another LAN problem. It only affects Flash in Firefox and the only thing I use flash for is a few crossword puzzles that I and other family members work every day. I've got them hooked too! Thanks for the response. Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash drive name change -
On 26/12/09 20:33, g wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: I have not been able to change it no matter what I tried. And gparted tells me I've messed something up with it! After messing with gparted for a bit it tells me Partition and File System are unallocated whatever that means, but it sounds bad! you no longer have a file system? None of this is a serious problem, I guess I can reformat it ext2 and might eventually do that anyway. Just thought I should be able to do anything she can do with the Mac. if you want ext2, would be best bet. if you want to stay fat, use mkdosfs -n. my apoligies for leading you into problems with dosfslabel. but from a brighter side, you are gaining experience and will know how to handle next time you get memory stixs. hth. mkfs.msdos -n fd3 /dev/sdc1 seems to have done it! [r...@box6 media]# mkfs.msdos -n fd3 /dev/sdc1 mkfs.msdos 3.0.1 (23 Nov 2008) [b...@box6 ~]$ mount ... % . /dev/sdc1 on /media/fd3 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=500,shortname=winnt,utf8) Before doing that it would no longer mount, once I ran mkfs it mounted when plugged in. Fdisk said it was still formatted FAT32 so I haven't changed that yet. I guess the next thing will be to make certain I can still write to it as it is. Disk /dev/sdc: 4009 MB, 4009754624 bytes 145 heads, 48 sectors/track, 1125 cylinders Units = cylinders of 6960 * 512 = 3563520 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 11126 3915752c W95 FAT32 (LBA) As for leading me into problems, not to worry, I am quite able to find them without your help! And as you say it's been an interesting exercise. Thanks for the help. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash drive name change -
On 27/12/09 10:30, g wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: Before doing that it would no longer mount, once I ran mkfs it mounted when plugged in. did you run mkfs -t fat or are you meaning when you ran mkfs.msdos? mkfs.msdos Fdisk said it was still formatted FAT32 so I haven't changed that yet. I guess the next thing will be to make certain I can still write to it as it is. fdisk should know. and if you can not write to it, at least you will know what to do. btw, 'man mkfs.msdos' and 'man mkfs.vfat', both bring up 'mkdosfs', so i would guess prog is actually 'mkdosfs'. I was able to write to and read data from the flash drives when done so I guess they are good. I did two of them, changed the names to fd3 and fd4 instead of HP v100W. I also played with hexedit and I could change the name there also, tried changing it a couple of times and that seems to work. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Flash drive name change -
Among the Christmas gifts were two small flash drives with the name HP v100w which I would like to change but I haven't figured out how to do it without reformatting them. Presently the appear to be formatted vfat and show up as /media/HP v100w. The space in the name means I have to use quotes to address them. I would prefer to call them fd3 and fd4. I refuse to believe there's no way to do this from my Linux system. Perhaps someone can tell me how? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash drive name change -
On 26/12/09 12:49, g wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: I refuse to believe there's no way to do this from my Linux system. $ locate label|grep bin/ /sbin/dosfslabel /sbin/e2label /usr/bin/mlabel /usr/bin/ppmlabel $ run man dosfslabel and man mlabel for usage. hth. dosfslabel seems to assign a label all right but it still does not change the name. Well it did assign a label, now I've broken something? [r...@box6 bobg]# dosfslabel /dev/sdc1 There are differences between boot sector and its backup. Differences: (offset:original/backup) 3:00/4d, 82:00/46, 510:00/55, 511:00/aa Not automatically fixing this. NO NAME My daughter changed one on her Mac without much effort. I did not see what she did. She changed it to FD3, thought she told it fd3 but ... I have been trying to change it to lower case fd3. I have not been able to change it no matter what I tried. And gparted tells me I've messed something up with it! After messing with gparted for a bit it tells me Partition and File System are unallocated whatever that means, but it sounds bad! None of this is a serious problem, I guess I can reformat it ext2 and might eventually do that anyway. Just thought I should be able to do anything she can do with the Mac. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Firefox/Flash print problem -
Fedora/3.5.6-1.fc12 Firefox/3.5.6 about:plugins shows: Shockwave Flash File name: nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42 This is an updated F-12 computer, in fact I have two and both have the same problem printing from flash in Firefox. When I ask it to print the menu comes up allowing me to select the printer and that accepts my selection, but no matter which of three printers I select it only prints to the default printer designated in system-config-printer! Crossword puzzles collected as .pdf files print to whatever printer I select. Printing from the command line works normally too. Any suggestions on correcting this are welcome. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A survey
On 25/12/09 01:41, Hiisi wrote: 2009/12/25 Mike Williamsdmikewilli...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Hiisivery-c...@rambler.ru wrote: 1. Are you left-handed? yes 2. Do you use mouse with left hand? sometimes 3. How to configure in F12 (Gnome) mouse pointer to be left-handed-mouse oriented (I mean how to mirror mouse pointer)? Like Frank, I use my middle finger to left click when using a mouse left-handed. I do this because I often use computers that others also use. Being used to using the left mouse button for left clicking enables me to just move the mouse, and be comfortable without having to reconfigure anything (and no risk of forgetting to put it back when I'm done). Mike Dear interviewees! Thank you for your responses. But you just don't understand. I know how to configure mouse buttons for left hand (i.e. reverse buttons functions). I don't know how to change mouse _pointer_ orientation. I would like to change it like this: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7656/mouseu.jpg I remember it was possible in the days of FC7. In xfce you can control that in Preferences Xfce 4 Settings Manager Mouse Themes. I always set mine to point from the Southwest rather than the Southeast. They style and size are also controllable. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Yumex crashes -
I have two new F-12 installs, one each 32 and 64 bit boxes. Yumex fails on both, although I think it may have worked initially after the Omegalive install. My memory is a bit fuzzy on that point, but it could have resulted from an update if that is the case. Yumex asks for a password, churns for a minute or so doing what it does to open and then crashes just as it begins to draw the opening display! I could see a few icons come up on the left edge and then gone, just the terminal from which I opened it leaving the following artifacts: History Enabled /usr/bin/yumex: line 5: 3234 Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yumex/yumex.pyc $* This looks like a problem with F-12 or yumex. I can survive without it but it helps in setting up new installs since it provides extensive applications lists, a help to me. Does anyone have a solution or do I just have to wait 'til it's fixed? Or do I have something messed up? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yumex crashes -
On 23/12/09 12:35, Jim wrote: On 12/23/2009 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have two new F-12 installs, one each 32 and 64 bit boxes. Yumex fails on both, although I think it may have worked initially after the Omegalive install. My memory is a bit fuzzy on that point, but it could have resulted from an update if that is the case. Yumex asks for a password, churns for a minute or so doing what it does to open and then crashes just as it begins to draw the opening display! I could see a few icons come up on the left edge and then gone, just the terminal from which I opened it leaving the following artifacts: History Enabled /usr/bin/yumex: line 5: 3234 Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yumex/yumex.pyc $* This looks like a problem with F-12 or yumex. I can survive without it but it helps in setting up new installs since it provides extensive applications lists, a help to me. Does anyone have a solution or do I just have to wait 'til it's fixed? Or do I have something messed up? Bob you need to remove the ; gtk2-immodule-xim-2.18.5-3.fc12 This package is causing Yumex to crash. I did that on both computers and yumex appears to be working again. Thanks for the help. Bob w2bod -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No F-12 Flash -
What is the procedure to install Adobe Flash Player in Fedora 12 [in this case installed from the Omega livecd]? I have tried everything I can think of and nothing works including the Adobe procedure for installing their rpm. When I attempt to get some crossword puzzles I usually print I am told I need the flash player. In the past that installation procedure worked, but not now? It wants to install: Adobe Flash Player version 10.0.42.34 Linux It results in an rpm that produces libflashplayer.so but does not install it as the instruction implies. I copied that to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ to no avail! I have two F-12 boxes now that need this. What do I need to do? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 20/12/09 00:11, Mail Lists wrote: Slow it down a moment - lets get some concepts clear. gmail does 3 things for you .. 1) it receives your mail 2) it send mail on your behalf 3) it lets you store the mail it has received and read the mail that it has received for you. (1) (2) are mail server functions. (3) is an imap server function. So when you set up an local imap server - you are setting up a server that allows you to store and read emails. This is (3). In thunderbird you 'add an account' and as I described in first email - set it up for your imap server. Once that is done you should have 2 accounts in thunderbird - gmail and the second one you created. In thunderbird you can drag or copy emails from gmail to your second account. Thats it. I am good through steps one, two, and three then on the F-12 server but the second part of my experimental effort is to move a message from the server to this compuster box 9 [192.168.1.109] on the wired LAN, connected through an Ethernet bridge, a part of a Buffalo wireless device that also ties these cvomputers to the router downstairs in the den. The LAN works well, no problems with it. Where I am having trouble is understanding how to set up Thunderbird accounts on this second [client [box9]] computer. I found an entry in the account setup GUI called movemail which sounds like the right place to enter the account info. I made an account there forthe server [F-12 box6] but have not been able to extract files from the server to the client. I suspect there may be something left undone in dovecot.conf, all I did there was un-comment a few items that obviously [to me] needed to be ... Part of my problem is that I have been trying to do a number of things at once, but have tried to block my thinking from the other stuff and concentrate on this. Other stuff; converting this box to F-12, and a new Laser printer that seems only to like Windows XP. I had Windows lurking on this computer but had never booted it or set it up for internet/LAN operation, Windows stuff is mostly beyond my comprehension and I had to figure how to set that up. Windows is not Linux, there's no help with it, not for me anyway! To add to the confusion it seems Windows had some effect on the router that disrupted LAN operation, a panic ensued since other family members notice disruption of their Mac boxes! Things are calm there now, the LAN is restored to normal. I offer that just as background information. My question is why can't I collect messages from the server on the client. I can drag items around on both computers but the client sees only what arrives via the gmail POP server. It has an imap account set up to point to the server [192.168.1.106 [box6]] in additon to it's original pop.gmail.com. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 20/12/09 12:55, Mail Lists wrote: o Using gmail - with imap - leaves the mail on gmail server. gmail with pop - removes the mail from gmail and stores wherever you told your mail client to store it - once you've done this - unless you store it on your own imap server then no other client will be able to see that pop mail. o so you should leave gmail accounts all set to imap - unless you want to pull the mail off gmail and store it. o your dovecot server is just like any other mail server - just set up a new IMAP account - use IP or (or hostname if your computers can see the host name). o each mail client you set up should have gmail imap your own imap as accounts. Then to move or copy mail just use mouse to drag or copy message(s) from gmail to your own imap account. Ok, I'm still digesting all of this and imap is becoming useable on this F-12 computer. I think I will switch the other one over too and see if I can get along with imap for a while. Don't know what Thunderbird is doing but sometimes it takes a long time to display a message and that can be maddening? Something to do with imap. And each time I select a directory the cursor runs that blue swirl for at least ten seconds, don't know what that means? Also I am trying to delete some of the many directories that were created initially, some like spam can't be deleted though. I have the mail filters putting stuff where I want it now. I usually keep all my mail sorted into directories and threaded and I'm finally getting that under control. The system is usable as it is, I don't know about some of the delays I'm seeing ... Anyway I've come this far and intend to give it a try. Making the dovecot server work will have to wait but I will get that under control also in time. Thanks for your patience and help. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 18/12/09 20:23, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/18/2009 06:27 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 17/12/09 20:29, Mail Lists wrote: Ok, I give up! Where can I find instructions, hopefully step by step, to install IMAP with a local server? That sounds like the solution to this problem and a few others. Bob I dont have a walk-through howto so I will wing it .. I will assume for now that you will not be using or running your own hosted sendmail/postfix server (that is a little more involved) and all you want is an imap server to store local mail. 1) As root edit /etc/dovecot.conf and make sure you have a directive to use maildir and store it in your home directory under Maildir (or whatever you want to use) e.g a line such as: mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir 2) service dovecot start 3) chkconfig dovecot on Then in your thunderbird just create a new account - server will be 127.0.0.1 (or whatever the IP or hostname on your local network the server is running on) user name (your login on the computer) connection security - STARTTLS Thats it. Create whatever folders you need and then use them. *** Minor Subtlety: You may find (likely will) that thunderbird will complain about the ssl certificate being self signed by an unknown authority - for now just tell it its ok - to remove this you'll need to create a better cert - which is signed by a known certificate authority. I suggest a free server certificate from startcom - which is probably your best bet. They are quick and easy and thunderbird and firefox have them listed already as an acceptable CA (certficate authority). There are others but most cost money - avoid things like cacert.org as they are not known by any browser. Go here: http://www.startssl.com/ Once you get the server certificate from them - you'll have 2 files - a key file (ssl.key) and a xxx.crt file. You'll ;likely need to convert them to pem format using something like openssl x509 -inform der -in xxx.crt -out xxx.pem The edit the dovecot.conf file again and look for the lines ssl_cert_file and ssl_key_file ... Change the to point to your lovely new certificate and restart dovecot (service dovecot restart). Best of luck. Look in /var/log/maillog for hints of any problems ... gene Thanks for your suggestions. I intend to try as you have outlined later this morning. Much appreciated. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 19/12/09 05:11, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 18/12/09 20:23, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/18/2009 06:27 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 17/12/09 20:29, Mail Lists wrote: Ok, I give up! Where can I find instructions, hopefully step by step, to install IMAP with a local server? That sounds like the solution to this problem and a few others. Bob I dont have a walk-through howto so I will wing it .. I will assume for now that you will not be using or running your own hosted sendmail/postfix server (that is a little more involved) and all you want is an imap server to store local mail. 1) As root edit /etc/dovecot.conf and make sure you have a directive to use maildir and store it in your home directory under Maildir (or whatever you want to use) . snip . Best of luck. Look in /var/log/maillog for hints of any problems ... gene Thanks for your suggestions. I intend to try as you have outlined later this morning. Much appreciated. Bob Ok, I've installed Dovecot, made some changes to the config. file and started it. Then told gmail I wanted to enable IMAP. Although I have a wildblue address they gave up their mail servers and shunted everyone over to google! Not the best deal for users perhaps but I had no choice. Rural users are stuck without CATV or Telco DSL internet service so the satellite providers have no competition. Anyway now that I've done this the system is dumping everything it has on me, presently 4091 trash files! Hopefully that is all, probably ~7k messages in total. I still don't understand how this works but I will in pretty short order I guess? Where are these messages being saved? On my F-12 computer somewhere in Dovecot I hope. What do I have to configure in another computer to access the IMAP messages? Do I simply add an IMAP user to Thunderbird, the email program I have been using for some time. If the messages are stored in my computer, other computers need to look there and connect via my LAN [wired and wireless]. I'm already in over my head despite reading a lot of instructions on how to set this up!. Any help is appreciated. Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 19/12/09 17:08, Mike Cloaked wrote: Mike Cloaked wrote: This is not directly related to the dovecot imap server that you will have set up on your own machine. You can get Thunderbird to (separately) connect to you own imap server if you set up a local imap account pointing to 127.0.0.1 and have the dovecot service running locally (i.e. make sure that as root dovecot service start, and chkconfig dovecot on to start it at boot - and check that the service is running by service dovecot status) Sorry there was a typo in the above should have been service dovecot start and not dovecot service start !! The typo is no problem, I've already found service dovecto status/start/stop/. This is not clear to me yet, do I need dovecot on a second computer to set up a local account? Do I need a t'bird IMAP account on each computer? Confusion reigns at this point but fear not I will get it eventually. I am sending this from the F12 [dovecot]. Now to see if it will send. I collected your message so that much is working. We are having rain and snow in Virginia and my tiny ku band transmitter has trouble reaching the satellite. I'll try to send again later . Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 19/12/09 17:04, Mike Cloaked wrote: So re-capping: 1) Set up local imap server - dovecot. 2) Set up email client eg Thunderbird and/or Evolution and/or kmail etc with each email client having an account pointing to any mail servers where you have email - one account may be gmail, another your local dovecot imap, and you may have a yahoo account or others as well 3) Set up filter rules to copy mail from one or other of these servers to any of the others - each account set up in an email client points to a different server. I hope this helps I found that I could set up a movemail account in Thunderbird. I made one for b...@192.168.1.106 which should be the computer with the server, clicked on get mail but nothing showed? Perhaps I missed something in dovecot config.? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 17/12/09 20:29, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/17/2009 04:33 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: There must be a way to save/export/import Thunderbirds email files when going from F-11 to F-12! I have never been able to do this despite suggestions to simply move the Thunderbirds Mail files. Every six months or so I lose all the mail when I upgrade Fedora and reinstall Thunderbirds, WHile you can usually re-use your .thunderbird directory, one should never save any email in thunderbird local format in my view. I use TB coz I still thinks its the best of a bunch. A far, far better way than using local TB storage, is to simply run a local imap server (dovecot works really well) and use that. The major advantages are (i) You are now essentially indifferent to what mail client you use - and its simple quick to change between different mail clients. (ii) TB local storage (mbox format) was designed in the 70's ... and it has long since been replaced by far far safer, faster and superior formats. mbox format is a single large file - so if you delete a message in the middle, it doesn't actually delete it (too slow) until you compress it. Using a modern format (like maildir++) never needs compression and the risk of corruption is gone. [MS outmook uses a similar approach - and they have similar problems - corrupted mail files. There is a small cottage industry of repair programs which attempt to recover mails from a corrpted outlook.pst file! ] And remember to turn off GLODA too in tb 3 or you're in for all kinds of gigabyte files and slow to start and run tb. good luck! Ok, I give up! Where can I find instructions, hopefully step by step, to install IMAP with a local server? That sounds like the solution to this problem and a few others. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix
On 17/12/09 01:14, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/17/2009 12:44 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Are there any differences between this and Omega012-i686-Live-RC1.iso that I just installed. I had some trouble making it work as an NFS clent ... Other than that it looks good.,, Yeah. RC1 had a important kernel issue (wrong arch) that has been fixed in thsi image. Rahul And of course I installed it only a day before the final release came out! Is it something I can repair or do I need to start over. My b.w. usage is limited and I watch it carefully, another gigabyte download is significant although do-able if necessary. What I have seems to be working, after some protesting about a missing nfs app. I would be tempted to leave it alone if the kernel will be replaced via the update process if that's all it needs? I am ready to upgrade this F-11 computer next ... Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix
On 17/12/09 04:34, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 17/12/09 01:14, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/17/2009 12:44 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Are there any differences between this and Omega012-i686-Live-RC1.iso that I just installed. I had some trouble making it work as an NFS clent ... Other than that it looks good.,, Yeah. RC1 had a important kernel issue (wrong arch) that has been fixed in thsi image. Rahul And of course I installed it only a day before the final release came out! Is it something I can repair or do I need to start over. My b.w. usage is limited and I watch it carefully, another gigabyte download is significant although do-able if necessary. What I have seems to be working, after some protesting about a missing nfs app. I would be tempted to leave it alone if the kernel will be replaced via the update process if that's all it needs? I am ready to upgrade this F-11 computer next ... Thanks. Bob . After the first yum update: Linux box6 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 10:46:22 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Grub shows the original as: vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 Notice that it appears to have recognized this box as able to use 64 bit apps? I was surprised to see that after the install. Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix
On 17/12/09 05:08, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/17/2009 03:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: After the first yum update: Linux box6 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 10:46:22 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Grub shows the original as: vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 Notice that it appears to have recognized this box as able to use 64 bit apps? I was surprised to see that after the install. This is the arch issue I was talking about. Do a hiccup in the compose, x86_64 kernel got pulled in. This is bound to confuse yum among other things. You can download the 32-bit kernel and install it manually as a workaround. Rahul The question then becomes what is box 6? Is it capable of running as a a 64 bit computer? I do a lot of reconfiguration immediately after install and yum collected 64 bit apps wherever possible and it all seems to be working! Do I need to wipe it out and start over? I'm not sure what I have for a computer, it's always run 32 bit. This F-11 [box9] computer I believe is 32 bit, it's about six months earlier in manufacture. But dmidecode for box6 [F-12] shows the following data: BIOS Information Vendor: Dell Inc. Version: A09 Release Date: 06/22/2005 Address: 0xF Runtime Size: 64 kB ROM Size: 512 kB Characteristics: PCI is supported PNP is supported APM is supported BIOS is upgradeable BIOS shadowing is allowed Boot from CD is supported Selectable boot is supported EDD is supported Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h) Print screen service is supported (int 5h) 8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h) Serial services are supported (int 14h) Printer services are supported (int 17h) ACPI is supported USB legacy is supported LS-120 boot is supported BIOS boot specification is supported Function key-initiated network boot is supported : Processor Information Socket Designation: Microprocessor Type: Central Processor Family: Pentium 4 Manufacturer: Intel ID: 41 0F 00 00 FF FB EB BF Signature: Type 0, Family 15, Model 4, Stepping 1 Flags: FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip) VME (Virtual mode extension) DE (Debugging extension) PSE (Page size extension) TSC (Time stamp counter) MSR (Model specific registers) PAE (Physical address extension) MCE (Machine check exception) CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported) APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported) SEP (Fast system call) MTRR (Memory type range registers) PGE (Page global enable) MCA (Machine check architecture) CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported) PAT (Page attribute table) PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension) CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported) DS (Debug store) ACPI (ACPI supported) MMX (MMX technology supported) FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore) SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions) SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2) SS (Self-snoop) HTT (Hyper-threading technology) TM (Thermal monitor supported) PBE (Pending break enabled) Version: Not Specified Voltage: 1.8 V External Clock: 800 MHz Max Speed: 4000 MHz Current Speed: 2800 MHz Status: Populated, Enabled Upgrade: ZIF Socket L1 Cache Handle: 0x0700 L2 Cache Handle: 0x0701 L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to identify 32 or 64 bits -
Can someone tell me how to determine if a computer can run 64 bit Fedora? I have two similar Dell desk top computers with what appears to be the same processor, one of which has had F-12 64 bit installed on it and seems to be happy. I always assumed they were 32 bit computers and really don't care which they are but wish to avoid using the b.w. to download another copy of F-12. I need to know before I can upgrade the second one. Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to identify 32 or 64 bits -
On 17/12/09 07:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/17/2009 06:11 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Can someone tell me how to determine if a computer can run 64 bit Fedora? I have two similar Dell desk top computers with what appears to be the same processor, one of which has had F-12 64 bit installed on it and seems to be happy. I always assumed they were 32 bit computers and really don't care which they are but wish to avoid using the b.w. to download another copy of F-12. I need to know before I can upgrade the second one. Thanks. Bob As I indicated in the other thread, # grep lm /proc/cpuinfo If it returns nothing, your system is 32-bit. Rahul I'm sorry, I missed the grep. So all I did was cat the /proc/info and didn't know what to look for? This F-11 box yields: [b...@box9 ~]$ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo nothing returned While the Omega F-12 box yields: [b...@box6 ~]$ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr From which I shall conclude that box6 is 64 bit and will work with the version installed but that box9 will not. So I will have to burn up some more of my b.w. allotment and download the final release. Ok, just as long as I know I'm not doing something unnecessary. I knew I was taking a chance with the RC1 version. Once more I appreciate your work and the help. Thank you. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to identify 32 or 64 bits -
On 17/12/09 08:56, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 13:48 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: bash-4.0$ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm bash-4.0$ (the lahf_lm flag matches, though I've no idea what it means). arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeature.h says it indicates whether the LAHF/SAHF (load status flags to AH /save AH to status flags) instructions are available in long mode. I'm not sure what it implies if you have lahf_lm but not lm! Regards, Bryn. Good! Thanks to all who responded, this has been educational and worth the bandwidth expended to me ... So much to know, so little time to learn! Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
There must be a way to save/export/import Thunderbirds email files when going from F-11 to F-12! I have never been able to do this despite suggestions to simply move the Thunderbirds Mail files. Every six months or so I lose all the mail when I upgrade Fedora and reinstall Thunderbirds, I usually have two Fedora computers as is the case now. I would like to move the mail from the F-11 box to the new F-12 installation on a second computer. The Thunderbirds mail import function looks for something in Communicator 4x or some such thing but is very inflexible. Communicator 4x doesn't exist on any of my computers! Is there a known working procedure to accomplish this. I routinely transfer files between them via sftp and nfs. But those mail files defy all my attempts. Any help appreciated. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix
On 16/12/09 10:27, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Omega (Boxer) release is a remix of Fedora 12 and includes all the updates till Monday 14th of December 2009 from Fedora, RPM Fusion and Livna repositories. Adobe repository is also enabled by default for convenience but no software is installed from that repository by default. It is a 1.3 GB Live image and you can simply use dd in Linux or the cross platform Fedora Live USB creator to create a Live USB. Download it from http://omega.dgplug.org/ Thanks to the entire Fedora community. Rahul On 16/12/09 10:27, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Omega (Boxer) release is a remix of Fedora 12 and includes all the updates till Monday 14th of December 2009 from Fedora, RPM Fusion and Livna repositories. Adobe repository is also enabled by default for convenience but no software is installed from that repository by default. It is a 1.3 GB Live image and you can simply use dd in Linux or the cross platform Fedora Live USB creator to create a Live USB. Download it from http://omega.dgplug.org/ Thanks to the entire Fedora community. Rahul Are there any differences between this and Omega012-i686-Live-RC1.iso that I just installed. I had some trouble making it work as an NFS clent ... Other than that it looks good.,, Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Selinux message F-12 -
I keep seeing a star icon in the F-12 box which produces the message below. I wonder if it has anything to do with my ssh problems? What does it mean? What must I do to satisfy it? Bob # Summary: SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1 sys_tty_config access. Detailed Description: [polkit-agent-he has a permissive type (policykit_auth_t). This access was not denied.] SELinux denied access requested by polkit-agent-he. It is not expected that this access is required by polkit-agent-he and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is causing it to require additional access. Allowing Access: You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Please file a bug report. Additional Information: Source Context unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c 0.c1023 Target Context unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c 0.c1023 Target ObjectsNone [ capability ] Sourcepolkit-agent-he Source Path /usr/libexec/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1 Port Unknown Host box6 Source RPM Packages polkit-0.95-0.git20090913.3.fc12 Target RPM Packages Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.6.32-55.fc12 Selinux Enabled True Policy Type targeted Enforcing ModeEnforcing Plugin Name catchall Host Name box6 Platform Linux box6 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 11:00:30 EST 2009 i686 i686 Alert Count 10 First SeenWed 09 Dec 2009 10:03:47 AM EST Last Seen Sun 13 Dec 2009 07:36:40 PM EST Local ID 71279b6b-af71-4208-85fe-64503a292646 Line Numbers Raw Audit Messages node=box6 type=AVC msg=audit(1260751000.112:20114): avc: denied { sys_tty_config } for pid=15535 comm=polkit-agent-he capability=26 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=capability node=box6 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1260751000.112:20114): arch=4003 syscall=54 success=yes exit=0 a0=2 a1=5401 a2=bfa30888 a3=bfa3099c items=0 ppid=14661 pid=15535 auid=501 uid=501 gid=501 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=501 sgid=501 fsgid=501 tty=(none) ses=1 comm=polkit-agent-he exe=/usr/libexec/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:policykit_auth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null) . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Omega 12 Release Candidate 1
On 11/12/09 20:18, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi Omega, a Fedora Remix has a RC1 out for your feedback. http://omega.dgplug.org/12/Live/i686/tmp/Omega-12-i686-Live-RC1.iso I downloaded and used liveusb-creator to copy to a flash drive, that booted and ran, set up printer and printed a pdf crossword puzzle to the laser printer. All of that pretty simple once I realized the printer was out of paper! It looks like I will have to install flash to print the other puzzles I usually work. But that's always an extra it seems. All worked as expected and with little effort. Next to use that flash drive to install F-12 on this F-11 computer. Your work is much appreciated. Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F-12 ssh problem -
I can ssh from this F-11 box to the F-12 box but can't get a connection in the reverse direction. It keeps giving Connection refused. I use Firestarter and there's nothing in the log so I don't think it's a problem there. sshd is running in both, where else do I need to look? I can use numerical addresses, 192.168.1.109, etc. doesn't work, although I have them set up in /etc/hosts as box 6, etc. I'd like to fix that before switching this box to F-12. Any suggestions appreciated. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Universal drive adapter -
On 11/12/09 07:12, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 12/10/2009 09:18 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Yes, I posted the question and found the response interesting and helpful. I spent a couple of hours reading man pages and experimenting with the lvm commands on various drives. But I have not been able to open a volume and list the directories and files, such as /home and /etc! I must be dense ... You cannot directly mount an LVM2 physical volume. The idea of the volume manager is that it abstracts storage using a layered model: Physical volumes - actual disks/storage devices Volume groups - collections of related disks that are managed together Logical volumes - virtual partitions carved out of the disks in the VG The PV is a container for the LVs that exist in the volume group. You need to activate any LVs that it contains using the commands in my earlier mail before you can mount them. LVs then behave a lot like regular partitions but with more flexibility; they can be resized on the fly, mirrored, snapshotted, migrated to new storage etc all without interruption to services. When you activate an LV or a VG you will get new entries in the /dev directory in a subdirectory named after the volume group. E.g. my VG in the examples I gave was named system and it contains a half-dozen or so LVs: # ls /dev/system/ home root swap0 tmp usr var [r...@p380-1 ~]# vgs VG #PV #LV #SN Attr VSize VFree system 1 11 0 wz--n- 231.66G 88.81G [r...@p380-1 ~]# lvs LV VG Attr LSize Origin Snap% Move Log Copy% Convert homesystem -wi-ao 100.00G rootsystem -wi-ao 21.03G swap0 system -wi-ao 8.00G tmp system -wi-a- 1.00G usr system -wi-a- 8.00G var system -wi-ao 4.00G E.g. to mount the tmp logical volume (assuming it's active and not already mounted), I would run: mount /dev/system/tmp /tmp Regards, Bryn. I haven't given up on this, it just takes time. I've printed the list messages and comb-bound them in a booklet. Good reference for now until I understand things better. I was able to format an old Windows 2000 drive and create an ext4 file to which I copied /home/bob/ from the F-12 computer and all that worked well. And I've finally managed to display the files on an old F-10 pata drive, that's a major accomplishment. But it seems this drive had a boot partition which the other one did not and it mounted easily, even automatically when the usb plug is inserted. That made things easier. I will eventually get all this worked out and perhaps even understand the process eventually. Thanks much for the help. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Universal drive adapter -
I bought a new gadget, a USB2 Universal Drive Adapter which does essentially what an external drive box does but it is not limited to SATA drives, On the F-12 computer it shows up in lsusb and I can see a drive at /dev/sdc with fdisk [sdc1] and it shows up as Linux and LVM. Is there a way to make it list the contents of the drive? I tried mounting it with mount /dev/sdc1 -t ext3 /mnt/hdtest which I created for the purpose but that doesn't satisfy it. It produces a stock error message wrong fs type, bad option, etc. I've only tried that one old IDE drive so far. Any suggestions appreciated. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Universal drive adapter -
On 10/12/09 10:19, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: blkid /dev/sdc1 Ok, thank you, that gives me a bit more information: [r...@box6 bob]# file -s /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc1: LVM2 (Linux Logical Volume Manager) , UUID: X5Vx9im0hf7hS6Y4WNhdW2ju8heRtUh [r...@box6 bob]# blkid /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc1: UUID=X5Vx9i-m0hf-7hS6-Y4WN-hdW2-ju8h-eRtUhR TYPE=LVM2_member Is there a way to list directories and files? Tnx. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Universal drive adapter -
On 10/12/09 14:25, Bill Davidsen wrote: Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 12/10/2009 03:28 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/12/09 10:19, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: blkid /dev/sdc1 Ok, thank you, that gives me a bit more information: [r...@box6 bob]# file -s /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc1: LVM2 (Linux Logical Volume Manager) , UUID: X5Vx9im0hf7hS6Y4WNhdW2ju8heRtUh [r...@box6 bob]# blkid /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc1: UUID=X5Vx9i-m0hf-7hS6-Y4WN-hdW2-ju8h-eRtUhR TYPE=LVM2_member Is there a way to list directories and files? The drive was configured for use with the logical volume manager (LVM2). You need to use the LVM2 tools to find out what volume group is on the disk and what logical volumes it contains. Then you can activate and mount the devices like any other block device. Have a look at the LVM2 documentation/man pages or how-tos for more information. [___ useful examples and such snipped ___] Thanks, this is a good cheat sheet to give to new (or reluctant) LVM users. Don't know if it helped the OP but I found it useful. Yes, I posted the question and found the response interesting and helpful. I spent a couple of hours reading man pages and experimenting with the lvm commands on various drives. But I have not been able to open a volume and list the directories and files, such as /home and /etc! I must be dense ... This from another drive: [r...@box6 bob]# lvm lvm pvdisplay --- Physical volume --- PV Name /dev/sdb2 VG Name VolGroup00 PV Size 74.43 GB / not usable 22.62 MB Allocatable yes PE Size (KByte) 32768 Total PE 2381 Free PE 1 Allocated PE 2380 PV UUID J5Yc28-aO4n-ODWI-1c0W-H9Jr-04jN-ufwyRj And fdisk shows: Disk /dev/sdc: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000c6487 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 1243419551073+ 8e Linux LVM But I can't mount this one either using mount /dev/sdc1 -t ext3 /mnt/hdtest It protests about the file type[?]. Perhaps lvm requires a different type? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No system-config-display ?
I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following message when I try to use it: [b...@box9 ~]$ system-config-display (xconf.py:4947): Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains invalid UTF-8 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 376, in module dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo()) File /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py, line 641, in __init__ if len(self.xconfig.layout[0].adjacencies) 1: IndexError: index out-of-bounds All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using? What's wrong here? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
On 06/12/09 04:49, Roger wrote: On 12/05/2009 08:44 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following message when I try to use it: All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using? What's wrong here? Bob yum install system-config-display I had to do this Roger Yes, I did that but it does not work? I should have mentioned this box is still F-11. [b...@box9 ~]$ system-config-display (xconf.py:4947): Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains invalid UTF-8 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 376, in module dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo()) File /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py, line 641, in __init__ if len(self.xconfig.layout[0].adjacencies) 1: IndexError: index out-of-bounds -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
On 05/12/09 04:56, Ed Greshko wrote: Well...FWIW, it works here fine on a fully updated F12 in both KDE and GNOME sessions. The GNOME session does have the following set [gno...@f12 ~]$ env | grep DESK IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated Maybe you should check yours and see if there is another environment variable of DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID set with some weird characters? Ed I should have said this is F-11/XFCE. I don't have the F-12 box running at the moment ... [b...@box9 ~]$ env | grep DESK IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
On 05/12/09 05:30, Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: I should have said this is F-11/XFCE. I don't have the F-12 box running at the moment ... [b...@box9 ~]$ env | grep DESK IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes Bob OK From my fully updated F11 system and running XFCE [egres...@f11 ~]$ env | grep DESK IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4 And it works. Ed I must admit I don't know how to change env and man env is not helping. I did : env DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4 but that did not make it work. It asks for pasword and then comes up with the error message. I even tried re-booting the computer from poweroff. I started the F-12 computer and did yum install system-config-display and it does work as expected. Well I'm nearly at the point of updating this computer to F-12 too so it's moot I guess. Just waiting to see if there is an F-12 Omega livecd. I would like to know how to change/add to the environment though? Guess google will tell me that if no one else does ... Thanks for the help. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
On 05/12/09 08:53, Marko Vojinovic wrote: export DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4 Read the man bash, search for export keyword. HTH, :-) Marko Yes, that helps. I should have added that the F-12 computer does not have that line, is like this F-11 box. The F-12 box works as expected, but this one does not even after the command export DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4. Thanks Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
On 05/12/09 08:57, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Samstag, den 05.12.2009, 04:44 -0500 schrieb Bob Goodwin: This is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480534 All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using? use xrandr What's wrong here? I guess you are using the proprietary nvidia driver. Bob Regards, Christopg No I believe this on board video uses an ATI chip? It looks like I am not alone, just a late comer to the discovery of a known problem described in that bug. But it did offer /usr/bin/gnome-display=properties which provides the information I was looking for [1680 x 1050] as well as does xrandr: [b...@box9 ~]$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA1 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 433mm x 271mm 1680x1050 60.0*+ 1280x1024 75.0 1024x768 75.1 70.1 60.0 832x62474.6 800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 640x48072.8 75.0 66.7 60.0 720x40070.1 Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
On 05/12/09 08:56, Ed Greshko wrote:FWIW, I am pretty sure I was barking up the wrong tree. It seems that DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID is actually related to Xorg than anything elseand it is too late and I've got to get up too early to really delve into it. http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html It would seem that you've always started system-config-display as a normal user. I'd be curious if you'd first su - if the same error would occur. Also, FWIW, there were several bugzilla's for various system-config-* utils with the same error message. I crawled out from under my 'lectric blanket at 03:00 to investigate this ... I su'd to root and the results were the same. It's a recognized problem and probably not worth further investigation at this time. Thank you. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
On 05/12/09 17:30, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/05/2009 03:27 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 06/12/09 04:49, Roger wrote: On 12/05/2009 08:44 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following message when I try to use it: All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using? What's wrong here? Bob yum install system-config-display I had to do this Roger Yes, I did that but it does not work? I should have mentioned this box is still F-11. In that case, yum install kudzu. It is a missing dependency. Rahul Ok, I installed [yum] kudzu but still the error persists. I have not re-booted though if that is required? [b...@box9 ~]$ system-config-display Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 376, in module dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo()) File /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py, line 641, in __init__ if len(self.xconfig.layout[0].adjacencies) 1: IndexError: index out-of-bounds Tnx. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Pulseaudio error message -
On 25/11/09 20:09, stan wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:10:04 -0500 Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I don't have much need for sound but it usually works. This is a new F-12 install from the livecd and it acts like the audio level is turned down somewhere although I haven't been able to find it. I think I can hear some very faint sounds at times?. One symptom is:[b...@box6 ~]$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav Home directory /home/bobg not ours. ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused aplay: main:608: audio open error: Connection refused When I try pavucontrol I get an error message: Connection failed: Connection refused I don't know what this is telling me, I know that I have changed anything related to sound. It worked with no problem in F-11 Any suggestions appreciated. Bob Sure sounds like a permission problem. It is acting like you are a different user than pulse was started with. What happens if you set up a new user and try from there? I created a new user bob and he was able to get sound after changing some of the sound config's via the GUI for Sound Preferences. It was set to Analog Mono Output/Amplifier. Changing that to Analog Output/Amplifier got sound working for bob but not for me bobg! I've been checking permissions but obviously not the right ones or not recognizing the error? Pavucontrol still comes up with the same error message. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
copy xfce configuration?
I have a Fedora 12 computer on which I have set the screen configuration to satisfy me. That includes launchers with icons and panels 1, 2, and 3. Can I transfer my configuration to another user by copying a file/s? Or do I have to recreate it for each user? If so can I copy it to another F12 computer? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: copy xfce configuration?
On 26/11/09 17:04, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/11/26 Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net: I have a Fedora 12 computer on which I have set the screen configuration to satisfy me. That includes launchers with icons and panels 1, 2, and 3. Can I transfer my configuration to another user by copying a file/s? Or do I have to recreate it for each user? If so can I copy it to another F12 computer? You can try copying the contents of the relevant directories in `~/.config' to the corresponding directory for the new user. Maybe something like `cp -R ~userold/.config/xfce* ~usernew/.config/' ? I accidentally sent my message to the wrong list, I intended to send it to the xfce list and hit the wrong address. I got essentially the same answer there: Of course you can: cp /home/user1/.config/xfce /home/user2/.config/ chown -R user2:user2 /home/user2/.config/xfce That information enabled me to clear a couple of problems. Thanks for the help. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Pulseaudio error message -
I don't have much need for sound but it usually works. This is a new F-12 install from the livecd and it acts like the audio level is turned down somewhere although I haven't been able to find it. I think I can hear some very faint sounds at times?. One symptom is:[b...@box6 ~]$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav Home directory /home/bobg not ours. ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused aplay: main:608: audio open error: Connection refused When I try pavucontrol I get an error message: Connection failed: Connection refused I don't know what this is telling me, I know that I have changed anything related to sound. It worked with no problem in F-11 Any suggestions appreciated. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -
On 25/11/09 14:39, Bill Davidsen wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: This was my problem, not F-12! I checked immediately upon booting the computer and found that it was bringing up nfs /mnt/srvr2 but not /mnt/srvr1, the one that was causing me problems since some of my data is stored there. The error was in /etc/fstab I had inadvertently hit a period instead of a comma when entering the options and that went unnoticed by my one barely functional 79 year old eye! 192.168.1.48:/mnt/rfg//mnt/srvr1nfsdefaults,rw.user 0 0 192.168.1.48:/mnt/glg//mnt/srvr2nfsdefaults,rw,user 0 0 192.168.1.48:/media/SimpleDrive/data/mnt/srvr3 nfs defaults,rw,user 0 0 After correcting that all is happiness. Thanks for the suggestions, much of which I have saved in my notes. And mine, at least a few. When you said it had worked on FC1011 I thought this was an upgrade, so a typo didn't even come to mind. Good catch. My eyes aren't as old as yours, but I do have one machine with a 32 inch screen (old HDTV with issues) which does a good job of making things large enough to see. Sorry to have confused you. This was to have been an [pre]upgrade but that turned into a mess and I dropped in the Livedc and installed that as I have been doing recently. Yes the large screens help, this one is a 20 and the other box with the F12 install is 19. The 32 TV should help keep the room warm as well as easing the eye strain. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -
On 23/11/09 10:35, Bob Goodwin wrote: NFS has worked for me without many problems from F10 to F11 but on the new F12 install I have to mount nfs manually after boot. Has anyone else had a problem or have I overlooked something? Bob This was my problem, not F-12! I checked immediately upon booting the computer and found that it was bringing up nfs /mnt/srvr2 but not /mnt/srvr1, the one that was causing me problems since some of my data is stored there. The error was in /etc/fstab I had inadvertently hit a period instead of a comma when entering the options and that went unnoticed by my one barely functional 79 year old eye! 192.168.1.48:/mnt/rfg//mnt/srvr1nfsdefaults,rw.user0 0 192.168.1.48:/mnt/glg//mnt/srvr2nfsdefaults,rw,user0 0 192.168.1.48:/media/SimpleDrive/data/mnt/srvr3 nfs defaults,rw,user 0 0 After correcting that all is happiness. Thanks for the suggestions, much of which I have saved in my notes. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Omega 12?
On 24/11/09 13:19, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/24/2009 11:47 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Is new Omega 12 (Fedora remix/respin) finished? Not yet. I am waiting to roll in the initial set of updates to get a solid release. Rahul I would like to receive notice when it is available. Tnx. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -
NFS has worked for me without many problems from F10 to F11 but on the new F12 install I have to mount nfs manually after boot. Has anyone else had a problem or have I overlooked something? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No F-12 NFS mounts at boot -
On 23/11/09 10:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:35:28 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: NFS has worked for me without many problems from F10 to F11 but on the new F12 install I have to mount nfs manually after boot. Has anyone else had a problem or have I overlooked something? Bob I haven't had any problems on my f12 virtual machines getting NFS mounts to work at boot time, but see the thread about bind taking a long time to start. Maybe you are having problems resolving the named of the remove machines specified in the fstab? That may be. Perhaps if I gave it more time after boot? I notice that when I do mount /mnt/srv1, srvr2 magically comes up. Both are set in fstab as in F10/11. Tnx. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another preupgrade disaster -
On 20/11/09 21:01, stan wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:43:36 -0500 Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 20/11/09 17:29, David Timms wrote: On 11/21/2009 08:50 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Don't know what that means. Why does it want the root for the previous system? The root in this case refers to the top level of your filesystem tree /. It can't find it. Can you post: cat /boot/grub/grub.conf [r...@box6 ~]# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Upgrade to Fedora 12 (Constantine) root (hd0,0) kernel /upgrade/vmlinuz preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade stage2=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/install.img ks=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/ks.cfg initrd /upgrade/initrd.img I don't know about the rest of what you posted, but this seems to be missing the root (hd0,0) line. Maybe preupgrade takes it from the next stanza??? title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root initrd /initrd-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586.img Well whatever, I added that line as shown below, but still get the same error when I run preupgrade. #boot=/dev/sda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Upgrade to Fedora 12 (Constantine) root (hd0,0) kernel /upgrade/vmlinuz preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade stage2=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/install.img ks=hd:UUID=09e14e02-5f2b-4e87-b2b6-4d8ffb6d7f98:/upgrade/ks.cfg initrd /upgrade/initrd.img title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root initrd /initrd-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586.img title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i586) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i586 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root initrd /initrd-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i586.img title Omega 11.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root initrd /initrd-2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586.img However when I run fdisk on that computer it shows two drives flagged as boot. It boots from /dev/sdb. And I see there is an error in the partitioning on /dev/sda. I wonder if that can cause confusion? It certainly hasn't bothered F-11, I never noticed before. I would have tried removing the other boot * but I'm not sure if telling it to write that will cause other problems, with it all being lvm I don't know if anything is written to that disk that I need? I have a strong temptation to run fdisk and fix that! Any suggestions ... cat fdisk.txt #fdisk.txt Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 26 204800 83 Linux Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 26 30401 243991201 8e Linux LVM Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 14972978043770 8e Linux LVM Also I never removed the parts of grub.conf that refer to the kernels I removed before starting this exercise. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another preupgrade disaster -
On 21/11/09 11:49, stan wrote: I haven't got anything more to offer for preupgrade help. Maybe someone eles can give you more help, or you can find a bugzilla that has your error at http://bugzilla.redhat.com . Good luck. Thanks for the help, it's been another interesting experience for me but I'm about ready to give up on what I have. I fixed the partition problems with fdisk, after which I could no longer boot F-11 much less install F-12. Apparently it was booting from that disk. And apparently the livecd doesn't work as a rescue disk. I have the F-12 livecd and will bite the bullet and go through the same routine I've done so many times before with an install from scratch. I could try other things but hate to waste bandwidth downloading disk 1 just to get a rescue function with which I might not succeed anyway. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: liveusb-creator -
On 19/11/09 14:51, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have been messing with this for several hours now, actually since yesterday, and can't seem to install livecd on a thumb drive. In desperation I re-formatted it ext3. That didn't help. I can cp and delete normal files but liveusb-creator is never happy with it? [r...@box9 ~]# mount shows: /dev/sdc1 on /mnt/Fedora type ext3 (rw) But when I click on Create Live USB it displays the following: Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso selected Verifying filesystem... Unknown filesystem for %s. Your device may need to be reformatted. LiveUSB creation failed! Unknown filesystem for %s. Your device may need to be reformatted. Reformatted? I believe it's supposed to work with ext3. It was FAT originally and that produced the same error! What am I doing wrong? This is not critical, I could use a CD, But I've put a lot of time into this and hate to give up. Bob. After trying to do this from command line and with the GUI, I plugged in a different thumb drive and things immediately worked as expected! I should have known, I had the other stick because it wouldn't work in my daughter's Mac. It always worked for me before but not this time. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: liveusb-creator -
On 19/11/09 17:35, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net writes: LiveUSB creation failed! Unknown filesystem for %s. Your device may need to be reformatted. If you haven't already done so you may want to start from the beginning and assume the usb stick has trash for a disklabel and needs to have that rewritten also. Then you need to mark it as ext3 and finally mkfs.ext3 the partition. Simplest way to do all the above is to yum install gparted, have it delete any partitions it finds. Then have it create a label with one partition that spans the whole drive, label it as ext3 and format as ext3. (I just needed to do that for an f12 install on a dvdless netbook. Don't ask me why the liveusb creator doesn't just do all that. It isn't likely that many folks installing a Linux OS for the first time are going to be able to figure out all the above.) -wolfgang I think I did essentially the same thing, I used fdisk to reformat the drive as Linux [83] then did mkfs ext3. I was able to copy a text file to it, display the file, and then remove it. Everything seemed to work, I just couldn't copy the F12 LiveCD iso to it with livecd-tools or liveusb-creator. It was a 2 gig stick containing no other files. Put the other stick in and it worked. Obviously there's something wrong, perhaps with my process? I have another computer running F12 on the thumb drive now. Next to decide if I want to install from that or try an upgrade procedure. I always have to consider bandwidth usage sine I am limited by Wildblue to 17 gigs/30days. I'm presently around six gigs used! That's why I've been installing from the livecd versions and just adding what I want. Thanks for the response. Bob livecd-tools -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Live CD install -
Can I run Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso from my nfs server without copying it to a CDROM? I don't see anything in the Bios setup that seems applicable. Looks like it has to be a CD or a USB device [thumb drive I assume]. If so where do I look for instructions to do that? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Need to add date to script -
I have a simple bash script that lists my internet usage in gigs, the first three lines are data downloaded, the second three data uploaded, 17.0 g and 5.0 g respectively are the upper limit for 30 days.. cat /home/bobg/usg.txt /home/bobg/usg1.sav Listing that - cat /home/bobg/usg1.sav produces a long list which I haven't been able to do much with due to my limited knowledge. 30 % 5.2 17.0 9 % 0.4 5.0 30 % 5.0 17.0 9 % 0.4 5.0 I would like to have a date command inserted to separate each group of six lines. Can some one tell me how to do that or point me in the right direction. This is an updated F-11 computer. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Need to add date to script -
On 12/11/09 12:44, Steven Stern wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/12/2009 11:19 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have a simple bash script that lists my internet usage in gigs, the first three lines are data downloaded, the second three data uploaded, 17.0 g and 5.0 g respectively are the upper limit for 30 days.. cat /home/bobg/usg.txt /home/bobg/usg1.sav Listing that - cat /home/bobg/usg1.sav produces a long list which I haven't been able to do much with due to my limited knowledge. 30 % 5.2 17.0 9 % 0.4 5.0 30 % 5.0 17.0 9 % 0.4 5.0 I would like to have a date command inserted to separate each group of six lines. Can some one tell me how to do that or point me in the right direction. This is an updated F-11 computer. Bob date /home/bobg/usg1.save cat /home/bobg/usg.txt /home/bobg/usg1.sav If you want it in a different format, man date and look at the format options. - -- Steve Thanks Steve and Chris. I wont tell you how much time I've spent messing with that problem, simple for you perhaps, but not for me. I do however learn a little each time and keep notes and can expand on what I learn. Bob PS: Can't send right now, rain blocking k-band path to satellite. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
shutdown problem -
After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? I don't know if you are alone. I just know that I'm not in the same situation. Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without problem. I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit. Ok, thanks for the response. I will disable fail2ban and have another go at it. But first the morning chores, dogs to walk, hungry horses, etc.. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? I don't know if you are alone. I just know that I'm not in the same situation. Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without problem. I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit. The only way I found to disable fail2ban was yum remove. Did that and the problem cleared, the shutdown runs as usual again. I have a second F-11 computer, similar to this one which I will update and see what happens with it. I believe I also installed fail2ban on it. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? I don't know if you are alone. I just know that I'm not in the same situation. Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without problem. I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit. I updated the second computer and it displays the same problem. The system stops at Stopping fail2ban and I have no control after that. About all it does it acknowledge Control-Alt-Delete pressed! I can bring up another terminal and it asks me to loin but does not accept keystrokes. I will have to remove fail2ban in order to restore normal operation ... Oh-ho, it finally appears to have recovered and is now presenting me with a login screen. I logged in and entered poweroff and it is stuck at stopping fail2ban again. It stayed there six minutes and then shut down normally from that point. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to list this data -
On 31/10/09 20:42, Suvayu Ali wrote: If it correlates with the Wildblue data, even approximately, it would work for me. But then I have other computers in the house on this system. Might be able to take data before the router with an eth. hub perhaps? I am not sure whether vnstat can monitor something outside the box like a hub or a router. But if at your house all the traffic goes through one of the machines, then you can specify the interface to monitor with the option `--iface _interface_'. Good luck figuring this out :) Thanks. Bob The information is still of interest to me even though it only refers to my computers, all of which go through one switch. I am always interested in knowing what part of the usage is mine. Presently I can only infer that! We have five users on four computer [actually 2 more for a total of 6 since I have three connected to the LAN]. The common point is the Netgear wireless router located in a different part of the house. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to list this data -
On 01/11/09 02:54, Joachim Backes wrote: cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n 35 % 6.0 17.0 8 % 0.4 5.0 That's the best solution yet. Not sure what it's doing but will look at the man page again when I am fully awake. Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to list this data -
On 01/11/09 03:31, Joachim Backes wrote: On 11/01/2009 09:25 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 01/11/09 02:54, Joachim Backes wrote: cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr \n 35 % 6.0 17.0 8 % 0.4 5.0 That's the best solution yet. Not sure what it's doing but will look at the man page again when I am fully awake. Thanks. Bob The tr command reads from stdin (that's the output of cat) and transforms all new line chars to blanks (see man tr), so all lines will be concatenated (by a blank char) to *one* line. Yes, I kept wondering, if there was a way to change the new line to a space, tab, comma, whatever but I couldn't see how. Obviously I lack the skill to do the things I want ... Thanks to all. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to list this data -
I can extract the following usage data from the Wildblue html usage screen. I would like to have them in a file that would put the data on a horizontal line separated by some white space perhaps. My objective being to keep a record of daily bandwidth usage. [35% or 6.0 gB is my current usage, 17.0 the 30 day download allotment, the other numbers for upload usage.] [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt 35 % 6.0 17.0 8 % 0.4 5.0 I've been puzzling over this since yesterday, I'm sure there must be a simple solution but I just haven't found it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to list this data -
On 31/10/09 14:55, Hiisi wrote: 2009/10/31 Bob Goodwinbobgood...@wildblue.net: I can extract the following usage data from the Wildblue html usage screen. I would like to have them in a file that would put the data on a horizontal line separated by some white space perhaps. My objective being to keep a record of daily bandwidth usage. [35% or 6.0 gB is my current usage, 17.0 the 30 day download allotment, the other numbers for upload usage.] [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt 35 % 6.0 17.0 8 % 0.4 5.0 I've been puzzling over this since yesterday, I'm sure there must be a simple solution but I just haven't found it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Perhaps there's some command. I don't remember. You could do it using simple script. Something like that: #!/bin/bash cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | while read line; do printf $line done Place it in a text file and make it executable (chmod +xfile_name) That looks like a step in the right direction, the results aren't pretty but I'll try with it some more. Thank you Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to list this data -
On 31/10/09 15:19, Hiisi wrote: Google for bash printf usage. It should be something like printf format arguments Using that you can make your output human readable. Ok, I'll look there. Tnx -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to list this data -
On 31/10/09 19:11, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Bob, On Saturday 31 October 2009 11:41 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: My objective being to keep a record of daily bandwidth usage. [35% or 6.0 gB is my current usage, 17.0 the 30 day download allotment, the other numbers for upload usage.] I know this is not the answer to your question but since you mention you want to monitor your bandwidth usage, you could try vnstat[1]. Its a very nifty light weight utility which keeps track of your network traffic by running cron jobs at small intervals of time[2] and presents all the information in neat graphs on the console. Yes that looks interesting, new to me ... If it correlates with the Wildblue data, even approximately, it would work for me. But then I have other computers in the house on this system. Might be able to take data before the router with an eth. hub perhaps? Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Can't edit text -
I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything? I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't see where to change it. Am I alone in this, can anyone tell me what I need to do? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't edit text -
On 28/10/09 10:17, Daniel J Celta wrote: Bob Look into the permissions by using the 'chmod' command. You may need to pull the man pages to understand the sintax of how to use it. Daniel J Celta I've been changing permissions, I know well how to do that but hate to change things willy-nilly. Nothing I have changed so far has helped. I haven't had this problems with any other applications, just OO! Thanks for your response. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't edit text -
On 28/10/09 10:36, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:45 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything? I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't see where to change it. Are you working on other people's files? Are you one of those people who log in as root? The files are for user bobg. Neither computer has ever been booted to root. Obviously there are many things that must be done as su. I don't think the OO install is one of them. Both systems were originally installed from the Omega live cd but I don't recall if OO comes with it or not. But I have had to install a lot of other app's and have had no such trouble. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't edit text -
On 28/10/09 11:11, Fennix wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net mailto:bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 28/10/09 10:36, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:45 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything? I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't see where to change it. Are you working on other people's files? Are you one of those people who log in as root? The files are for user bobg. Neither computer has ever been booted to root. Obviously there are many things that must be done as su. I don't think the OO install is one of them. Both systems were originally installed from the Omega live cd but I don't recall if OO comes with it or not. But I have had to install a lot of other app's and have had no such trouble. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I have seen like this before when files have been copied back from CD/DVD and are flagged as read-only. I know that you have not said that you had done this. I know that you have checked the ownership. My last several version upgrades have been done using preupgrade. My data home is on another disk separate from the currently installed home and I have never seen these symptoms except when having copied data back from archival (read-only) media. Hope this helps think of something Fennix This file was copied from OO in F-10 but I have set the permissions to 776: [b...@box9 ootext]$ ll total 12 -rwxrwxrw-. 1 bobg root 9554 2009-10-07 09:42 bp-meds.090827.odt Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't edit text -
On 28/10/09 11:54, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 11:29 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: This file was copied from OO in F-10 but I have set the permissions to 776: [b...@box9 ootext]$ ll total 12 -rwxrwxrw-. 1 bobg root 9554 2009-10-07 09:42 bp-meds.090827.odt The group ownership is rather telling. Why is there a root in there? And what do you mean by copied from OO? Open a file from one place in OpenOffice.org and saved to somewhere else? Something else? What's the process that your files have been through from initial creation to you working on them? Any backups in the middle? And, if so, how were they done? None of *my* files ever get root in the user or group ownerships. The origins of this file are long lost. It probably began as a StarOffice file, I don't remember. It's a form I use to keep track of the pills I take. Routine stuff that is easily lost track of, did I or didn't I? It has been modified numerous times over the last ten years or so as med's change, etc. I probably changed permissions and owner, usually all I want is to print ten more copies and do whatever it takes to get it done. The problem was with the directory ootext which apparently had it's permissions corrupted somehow when I transferred it from the F-10 computer. I don't know what I might have done wrong but I removed the directory and created a new one with the same name. [b...@box9 ~]$ ll /home/bobg/ootext -rw-rw-r--. 1 bobg bobg 9425 2009-10-28 15:01 bp-meds-091028.odt OpenOffice no longer treats it as read only. It should not have taken me that long to find the problem but I thought it was something in the OpenOffice configuration and wasted time on that tangent. Thanks for the help. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't edit text -
On 28/10/09 15:05, Steve Searle wrote: Around 01:45pm on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 (UK time), Bob Goodwin scrawled: I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything? I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't see where to change it. Am I alone in this, can anyone tell me what I need to do? I saw similar symptoms a while back. Are the files on the local machine, or are they on an NFS mount? If the latter, try (temporarily) taking down the firewall on the server. If that works, look here for more details: http://www.stevesearle.com/tech/faq.html#nfs0010 Steve I don't remember how I copied them but I had all the old F-10 files on the nfs server and quite likely took them from there. At any rate I've got things working with some external stimulation from this mailing list. Thanks again Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't edit text -
On 28/10/09 17:12, James Wilkinson wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: I have two completely updated F-11 computers in which the OpenOffice word processor is nearly useless because I can't edit anything? I can open a document and copy it to a new file but it doesn't trust me to change anything, a matter of permissions perhaps but I can't see where to change it. Am I alone in this, can anyone tell me what I need to do? Have you checked SELinux: do you have setroubleshoot installed? James. I guess I do, not sure how to tell but when I do locate setroubleshoot it produces a long list of files. I haven't had any selinux error messages since installing F-11. My problems appear to occur when I transfer files via sftp. That changed the owner to root. I created a new directory as user bobg and moved the files to it, then removed the original directory and recreated it as bobg and put the files back in and things work normally. I imagine all that really needs to be done is to change the owner, the permissions were ok. Things are working and I know how to cause the problem, another case of knowing what doesn't work. I'm sure it is the result of doing something wrong with sftp. That will take some more investigation I've transferred a lot of iles that way without a problem? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: ATX 4P power socket
On 17/10/09 09:05, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 11:48 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote: they do not sell it completely, but in parts. The crimping tool costs ~10x the price of my mobo. You could look for another broken board to rat the part from. Normally the crimping tool is required for the cable end not the mother board side of the connector. It might help to know exactly what sort of damage has been done. If it is just the plastic shell on a four pin molex connector then just plug the wires onto the pins and forget about it! An inexperienced person may do more damage attempting the replacement. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Presto, a comment -
That certainly eases the pain for those of us who are limited in how much b.w. we can use each month! I've been putting off the updates 'til now. Finishing rebuild of rpms, from deltarpms delta rebuild | 101 MB 00:02 Presto reduced the updates to 27 M from 101 M which is a 74% savings. Package(s) data still to download: 12 M Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Your favourite Flash websites and testing Gnash
On 01/10/09 01:23, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 09/30/2009 08:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, I am running the Gnash browser plugin for the past few days and it seems to work well for the websites that I use (YouTube et all). I am curious if anyone else has used it recently and if so what has been your experiences? Can you give the list of your favourite websites that use Flash considerably? If you want to test it, # yum remove flash-plugin # yum install gnash-plugin Restart Firefox, confirm with about:plugins and check. Rahul I installed it just like that and firefox confirms it's there in about:plugins, but whenever I open some page with flash, firefox behaves as if nothing is there I've tried disabling adobe flash (in plugins) and setting the swf handler to gnash, and still nothing I get the following error message when I go to http://puzzles.usatoday.com/. But then the adobe flash doesn't work properly either in this F-11 computer. I have to use F-10 in another box to print puzzles that require flash. . Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (printasbitmap) isn't associated with any program. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
nfsnobody ?
My daughter loaded a bunch of vacation pictures [du -h shows 5.7G} on to my Linux nfs server from her Mac portable via our wireless LAN last night. I can see that the files are there but I can't view them directly, in fact I can only list directories part way through the tree and they are long directory names! However although I can't view them as root either I can copy the files to this computer and view the images with gthumb. The owner changes in the copying process which appears to be what makes them accessible to me. I don't quite understand how this all works, I've messed with owners and groups before when I observed this problem without success. I certainly don't want to copy all those files to this computer just to look at a few pix. For example: [b...@box9 ~]$ ll /mnt/srvr2/HOLIDAY-SanFRANCISCO-24Aug-3Sep-2009/04-Holiday-27-Aug-2009/ total 108 drwxrwxrwx. 2 nfsnobody nfsnobody 106496 2009-09-04 19:01 00-ADJ-MuirWoods-Sausalito-Coastal-Redwoods How do I deal with the owner nfsnobody? Any help appreciated ... Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nfsnobody ?
On 08/09/09 05:29, Jussi Lehtola wrote: It seems the user mapping failed and thus the default guest user 'nfsnobody' was used to access the server. (r/w as guest is a possible security issue.) If you can't list the directories all the way down, the permissions aren't correct. You can run # chmod o=rX -R /path/to/photos to give users not in the nfsnobody group read access to the photos (and the necessary execute permissions to the directories). To change the ownership run # chown someuser: -R /path/to/photos One thing that puzzles me is that I can put files on the server from this F-11 box without a hitch, permissions just work but her Mac is showing up with the nfsnobody files? I guess I need to find why that's happening, my problem or hers? Ok, I will look at these things again but even using su - it didn't let me chown to bobg? I'll have a go at t again later. Thank you. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-
On 06/09/09 08:00, David Boles wrote: On 9/6/2009 7:47 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 06/09/09 12:31, David Boles wrote: --snip-- You guys are making this hard. Don't 'unzip' the package. 'open' it with the default archive tool, edit the install.rdf file (open it with a test editor, when you 'save' the edited install.rdf you will be prompted to (I forget which it is) add or replace the edited file *in* the package. Install the edited .xpi package in Thunderbird. Thanks David. Indeed less work You're welcome. My pleasure. I think I found the simplest solution to my problem! In Thunderbird Edit Preferences Advanced Config Editor I changed mailnews.display.date_sender from false to true. [A good guess] I now have the sender's time and offset in his local time as well as my local time set in the list of messages. The only thing missing from previous versions is the day of week which changes with geographic location. I am probably a bit eccentric in needing this information but ... if it's not there I miss it. Thanks for the help, I learn something from everything I do even if it doesn't work out as expected. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Thunderbird config date non-compat.-
I've replaced F-10 on this computer with F-11 using the Omega live cd and so far everything seems perfect for the stuff that I use. One of the easiest Linux installs yet! And a lot of bandwidth was saved in doing the updates! That's an important factor with the limited bandwidth usage allocated by my ISP. The version of Thunderbird provided however is not compatible with the config date add-on which I want in order to display 24 hour local times for both the sender and myself. The patch is not available for this version. What to do? It appears that I need to replace with version 2.-something. Is there something I am missing here, am I unique in needing 24 hour time displayed? [b...@box9 ~]$ yum whatprovides */thunderbird thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 : Mozilla Thunderbird mail/newsgroup client Repo: installed Matched from: Filename: /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b3/thunderbird Filename: /usr/bin/thunderbird [b...@box9 ~]$ yum whatprovides */thunderbird-2.* Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit No Matches found Any suggestions? Bob This should be in plain text if I have the configuration set right. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-
On 06/09/09 05:10, David Boles wrote: Nightly Tester Tools https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6543 There's a lot of stuff there but I found nothing relative to my problem ... Of course I may not know how to deal with that site either? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-
On 06/09/09 05:42, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 06/09/09 10:35, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 06/09/09 05:10, David Boles wrote: Nightly Tester Tools https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6543 There's a lot of stuff there but I found nothing relative to my problem ... Of course I may not know how to deal with that site either? Bob The Nightly Tester Tools will force your date plugin to install :) install the Nightly tester. It still wont install, I click on Force Install but it doesn't install - ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Thunderbird 3.0b3. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-
On 06/09/09 06:02, g wrote: hey bob, still trying to get 24 hr with out searching first, eh? :D How much searching do you suggest I do before asking? Bob Goodwin wrote: Any suggestions? have a look at these links. granted, 3.0b1pre, but may be worth a try; https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/901 then; http://www.thunderbird-mail.de/wiki/ConfigDate_(English) This is all stuff I have read. Thanks Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-
On 06/09/09 06:22, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 06/09/09 11:13, Bob Goodwin wrote: --snip-- The Nightly Tester Tools will force your date plugin to install :) install the Nightly tester. It still wont install, I click on Force Install but it doesn't install - ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Thunderbird 3.0b3. Just tested same result. Now the old fashioned way. 1: Extract the contects of configdate-0.6.1-tb.xpi 2: edit install.rdf 3: change em:maxVersion3.0b1pre/em:maxVersion to 3.1 4: save new install.rdf Now repakage contents to configdate-0.6.1.-tb-modified.xpi (keep safe for future use) I think I did every thing right and: ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Thunderbird 3.0b3. I guess I need to zip the file before saving as an xpi I'm not sure it's worth all this, might have been easier to install an earlier version ot T-bird! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-
On 06/09/09 06:54, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 06/09/09 11:50, Bob Goodwin wrote: --snip-- I think I did every thing right and: ConfigDate 0.6.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Thunderbird 3.0b3. I guess I need to zip the file before saving as an xpi Yes, save all under the folder as *.zip, then renmae *.zip to *.xpi I'm not sure it's worth all this, might have been easier to install an earlier version ot T-bird! You could, I just yesterday updated to TB 3.0b3 Whether you can still get 3.x on a mirror? F10 only has 2.x iirc Yes, I've been using F10 for a while and the 2.x t-bird was quite satisfactory. I don't see any advantage to this version yet? I gzipped the file but it still wont fly! Thunderbird could not install the file at file:///home/bobg/Download/configdate-0.6.1.-tb-modified.xpi because: Not a valid install package -207 I have hungry horses standing at the gate waiting for breakfast. I think I need a break too, been at this since four. Thanks much for your help. Will pursue it further ... Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F-11 live cd downloads ?
Is there a live cd download of F-11 available that has some updates applied already, preferably not via bittorrent? I am trying to save some bandwidth ... Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F-11 live cd downloads ?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/31/2009 10:39 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Is there a live cd download of F-11 available that has some updates applied already, preferably not via bittorrent? I am trying to save some bandwidth ... I have a remix available. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.core.announce/2595 Rahul Thank you, I am downloading a copy. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F-11 live cd downloads ?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: I have a remix available. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.core.announce/2595 Rahul I downloaded a copy, put it on a CD and it appears to run without any problems. Next to make sure I've copied everything I need from one F-10 computer and I will use it to install F-11, add xfce etc. I should have fewer updates to deal with. Thanks for your effort. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -
After doing an update this morning which included a 23 meg Thunderbird file I can no longer copy and paste image files into an HTML e-mail message, as I have been doing for a long time. I wasted more than an hour with this, rebooted two computers, and finally had to Save as from Firefox [a satellite .jpg file and a storm tracking chart .gif] after which I could insert the saved images. That makes the process more cumbersome. Using the normal, for me anyway, copy and paste [from Firefox] I would get a never ending message that it was attaching the image file. Just curious to know if I am the only one bothered by this? This is an updated F-10 and T'bird 2.0.0.23. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -
jack craig wrote: you might want to try tbird 3.x, works fine for me... Via yum for F-10? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -
jack craig wrote: oops, missed your using fc10, i am on fc11 with thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586. this beta got installed with my fc11 upgrade, but its much better than the 2.0 for my usage. my apology for the poor suggestion, jackc... I thank you anyway. I'm reluctant to give up F-10. It works well, thought I'd give F-11 some time to get sorted out. But eventually ... Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No copy/paste image in Thunderbird -
suvayu ali wrote: 2009/8/28 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net: jack craig wrote: oops, missed your using fc10, i am on fc11 with thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586. this beta got installed with my fc11 upgrade, but its much better than the 2.0 for my usage. my apology for the poor suggestion, jackc... I thank you anyway. I'm reluctant to give up F-10. It works well, thought I'd give F-11 some time to get sorted out. But eventually ... Bob You can try installing just Thunderbird from the F11 repos. If the dependencies are not too many, you should be able to go ahead with it. I was using Emacs 23 from rawhide on F11 like that before it was pushed to the F11 repos. I didn't find the F-11 rpm but I did find the tar'd version [3.ob3] and have that where I can run it. It seems to work but I will have to give it more time. So far so good. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
William M. Quarles wrote: Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, William M. Quarles wal...@bellsouth.net mailto:wal...@bellsouth.net wrote: Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP Atheros-based wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP Pro and in Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot setup, I couldn't get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, William I don't currently use Wi-Fi on my desktop(s)... since I cabled my home with five gigabit-ethernet sockets per room. :-) But when I did use Wi-Fi, I used cardbus cards hooked to pci-to-cardbus adapters. Here's some: Addonics ADPCICB2 - $49 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B00023LTKK http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B00023LTKK And D-Link A/G Wi-Fi Cardbus adapter - $11.78 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C Total: $60.78 This also gives you the flexibility of exchanging Wi-Fi cards when new standards arrive, or exchanging cards in case of trouble, without opening up the case. (Cardbus cards are, for all intents and purposes, the same as PCI) Well, except for the fact you can remove a Cardbus adapter while the computer is still running with little trouble. Thanks for the tip, but I'd still be much more interested in a PCI card... although I do have the urge to add a Cardbus adapter later for a professional recording Cardbus sound card, so that I can also use the card on my laptop. I think that you might have overpaid for that PCI=to-Cardbus adaptor though, I could have sworn that I have seen them at a lower price before. Does anybody out there know of some good PCI wireless netowkring cards that aren't Atheros-based? Thanks, William Of course, there's also USB Wi-Fi dongles but in my experience those don't match the range of cardbus cards (antenna design, or power limits, perhaps?). Wireless Ethernet bridges are really the best way to go in my opinion. No driver problems, easy to configure from a browser, and also function as a four port swithc. Buffalo has one that is either a bridge or a router. All are available at discounted prices. Cost a little more than a pci card but with none of the headaches ... i can set one up on my Linux box and use it on the Mac and Windows computers as well with no further effort, just plug int the Ethernet port. It acts like a wired connection. http://www.buffalotech.com/products/wireless/nfiniti-wireless-n-dual-band/nfiniti-wireless-n-dual-band-ethernet-converter-wli-tx4-ag300n/ http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Technology-WHR-HP-G54-Wireless-G-Performance/dp/tech-data/B000AOKTJ8/ref=de_a_smtd http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Dual-Band-Wireless-N-Gaming-Adapter/dp/B0010TEOLQ/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2#productPromotions Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
William M. Quarles wrote: Tim wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:52 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote: it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card Have you tried the obvious of moving the cards between slots. Some conflicts are just because of shared IRQs (some slots share IRQs with other slots, or other on-board hardware). Yes, and I have also tried reassigning the IRQs with the BIOS to fully make sure that they don't conflict. I still could not get them to work together, so I am pretty sure that it is not an IRQ problem. Neither OS locks up until it has loaded the drivers for both cards. i would suggest that you look at wireless Ethernet bridges. I have three of them on our home LAN and they are the simplest to configure, no drivers needed. I have some brand new PCI card adapters still in the boxes, gave up on them long ago. The Ethernet bridges are configured from your browser. I have one from Linksys and two from Buffalo, the latest Nfiniti wireless-N dual Band Ethernet controller according to the box which I am looking at as I type this. Set one up and you can plug any computer into it, as I said no drivers to install, and in fact I have three computers and a laser printer connected to the four ports on this newest one. My 2¢ worth. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Unable to kill runaway app. -
I just had perhaps the third occurrence of this problem. I tried to shut down gthumb which was displaying a a photo from the nfs server. It would not shut down, at least not in a reasonable amount if time. Gkrellm showed cup1 running at max. and top indicated the cup at 99.5%. Something did eventually time out but that did not calm the cup activity.: . 3487 bobg 20 0 2928 1068 932 R 99.5 0.0 445:55.55 gam_server Kill 3487 does not stop it. In fact nothing seems to. I told it to poweroff and it got as far as halting system and stayed there until I pressed the power button for five seconds or so. This happened once last night and it sat there saying it was busy, the power button was required to kill it then too. I don't expect anyone to troubleshoot the problem but would like to know what other commands I might try to restore things without shutting down and rebooting. This is an F-10 system pretty much up to date, certainly all security updates and perhaps all the rest, I've lost track at the moment. I suspect the problem is related to some horse photo files from my daughters Mac. But I need a way to stop things when this happens ... Any help appreciated. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines