Re: Someone was able to hack my mail account
2009/12/10 kevin ke...@kevinslair.com: Please if anyone knows how to stop this with postfix and amavisd-new please let me know !!! I am clueless how someone outside $mynetworks was able to do it. As others have said, it's just a spammer spoofing your email address. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Job You might also look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: provider for google calendar
2009/12/4 oleksandr korneta aten...@gmail.com: so I'm on Fedora 12, 64bit. It was an unpleasant surprise to find out that that some extensions for thunderbird from mozilla's website cannot be installed because of 64bit architecture (wtf? is this opensource or what?). Yes I'm talking about lightning calendar extension. Anyway, turns out some good people did package it and put in repository. But it is useless for me without the Provider for google calendar. And this one is not packaged and cannot be instaled from mozilla's website. So, does anybody have similar problem/has a solution? Maybe someone can point me to some how to recompile Provider for google calendar blog article? Are you sure that your problem is because of your 64-bit architecture? A number of Thunderbird extensions aren't available for Thunderbird 3 yet (as it's still in beta). The version of Provider on the Mozilla Add-ons site is 0.5 and that doesn't work with Thunderbird 3. The version of Provider that I have is 0.6pre. I suspect it's a nightly build and that I got it from somewhere under: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/lightning/nightly/ It seems to be working fine with my Google Calendars. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F12: Missing Config Dialogue
There's a config dialogue box that I can't find in Fedora 12. I've used it in the last few versions of Fedora. It's the dialogue box controlling Window appearance. In particular I want the option that controls the behaviour that's triggered when you double-click on a title bar. I want to set it to roll-up the window. What happened to this dialogue box? Is there any way to get it back? Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12: Missing Config Dialogue
2009/11/29 Sam Sharpe lists.red...@samsharpe.net: 2009/11/29 Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com: There's a config dialogue box that I can't find in Fedora 12. I've used it in the last few versions of Fedora. It's the dialogue box controlling Window appearance. In particular I want the option that controls the behaviour that's triggered when you double-click on a title bar. I want to set it to roll-up the window. System - Preferences - Windows? Yep. That was the one I was looking for. What happened to this dialogue box? Is there any way to get it back? Now part of the following package: # yum install control-center-extra That help? Perfect. All works fine now (well, once I realised that the name of the package included the word centre spelled incorrectly - damn colonials!). Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Dell Latitude Suspend/Restore
I have a Dell Latitude M1330. Originally it was running F10 and I upgraded it to F11 some months ago using preupgrade. Everything continued to work well. Including suspend/resume. Recently, for reasons too boring to go into, I trashed this installation and started again. I booted from an F11 Live image on a USB stick and installed from there to the hard disk. Most things still work fine, but suspend/restore has stopped working. Well, suspend seems to work ok, but restore doesn't. I now have to reboot the laptop each time I want to use it. My suspicion is that the Live image doesn't include an RPM that I was getting from my old F10 installation. But this is an area that I know nothing about and I'd appreciate any advice on how to track down and fix this issue. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dell Latitude Suspend/Restore
2009/11/9 Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com: On 11/9/09, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Most things still work fine, but suspend/restore has stopped working. Well, suspend seems to work ok, but restore doesn't. I now have to reboot the laptop each time I want to use it. My suspicion is that the Live image doesn't include an RPM that I was getting from my old F10 installation. But this is an area that I know nothing about and I'd appreciate any advice on how to track down and fix this issue. I know nothing about suspend/resume either, except that it's incredibly frustrating when it doesn't work, and that /var/log/pm-suspend.log may give you a clue. Thanks for the suggestion. In case it's useful to anyone else, here's the current contents of that file. Initial commandline parameters: Sun Nov 8 21:32:06 GMT 2009: Running hooks for suspend. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk suspend suspend: Adding quirks from HAL: --quirk-vbe-post success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: Linux angel.mag-sol.com 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Nov 3 23:33:04 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Module Size Used by aes_i5867944 1 aes_generic26956 1 aes_i586 fuse 49272 2 rfcomm 57996 4 sco16176 2 bridge 43864 0 stp 1972 1 bridge llc 4944 2 bridge,stp bnep 14908 2 l2cap 32436 16 rfcomm,bnep sunrpc155656 1 ip6t_REJECT 4540 2 nf_conntrack_ipv6 17724 2 ip6table_filter 3156 1 ip6_tables 10968 1 ip6table_filter ipv6 235712 28 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand6348 2 acpi_cpufreq8864 0 dm_multipath 14048 0 uinput 6684 0 snd_hda_codec_idt 51600 1 uvcvideo 50552 0 arc41604 2 snd_hda_intel 24096 2 ecb 2476 2 snd_hda_codec 59388 2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel videodev 29636 1 uvcvideo sdhci_pci 6964 0 iwlagn124416 0 v4l1_compat12056 2 uvcvideo,videodev sdhci 17184 1 sdhci_pci wmi 5868 0 dell_laptop 3328 0 mmc_core 48456 1 sdhci iwlcore 133964 1 iwlagn joydev 9244 0 pcspkr 2176 0 firewire_ohci 19436 0 i2c_i801 10204 0 ricoh_mmc 3436 0 dcdbas 8468 1 dell_laptop firewire_core 37564 1 firewire_ohci video 18740 0 btusb 13552 2 output 2484 1 video snd_hwdep 6724 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm63000 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec rfkill 8936 5 dell_laptop,iwlcore snd_timer 17780 1 snd_pcm lib802115112 1 iwlcore snd50292 10 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer iTCO_wdt 10356 0 tg391804 0 iTCO_vendor_support 2760 1 iTCO_wdt mac80211 175100 2 iwlagn,iwlcore soundcore 5484 1 snd crc_itu_t 1604 1 firewire_core bluetooth 77104 9 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap,btusb snd_page_alloc 7720 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm cfg80211 51684 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211 nouveau 436308 0 drm 168580 1 nouveau i2c_algo_bit4844 1 nouveau i2c_core 25032 4 i2c_i801,nouveau,drm,i2c_algo_bit total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 361419613273762286820 0 51240 575704 -/+ buffers/cache: 7004322913764 Swap: 5668856 05668856 success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/56dhclient suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98smart-kernel-video suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99hd-apm-restore.hook suspend suspend: saving level 255 for device sda success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend: kernel.acpi_video_flags = 0 success. Sun Nov 8 21:32:09
Re: FC11 logging in as root - FC10 change not enough?
2009/10/30 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com: At times I find I need to login as root. You really don't. For example, as a regular user su to root, then start gedit from that terminal session. Look at all the errors generated. And at least in FC10, I could still change preferences, but in FC11, they all come up grey. There are other things in gnome that don't launch right from an SUed terminal session. So when I want to 'fix' things, I find it better to just log in as root. I think you need to understand the difference between su and su -. But really you need to get to grips with sudo as a better replacement for su. Steps I always take on a new Fedora box to make my life easier. 1/ su - to become root. 2/ visudo to edit the sudoers file. 3/ Uncomment the first line referencing the wheel group. 4/ Save the file. 5/ Edit /etc/groups to add myself to the wheel group. 6/ Exit from su -. From that stage on, I never need su again. I can do anything I want (without the errors that you're seeing) using sudo some_command. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC11 logging in as root - FC10 change not enough?
2009/10/30 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com: Dave Cross wrote: 2009/10/30 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com: At times I find I need to login as root. You really don't. For example, as a regular user su to root, then start gedit from that terminal session. Look at all the errors generated. And at least in FC10, I could still change preferences, but in FC11, they all come up grey. There are other things in gnome that don't launch right from an SUed terminal session. So when I want to 'fix' things, I find it better to just log in as root. I think you need to understand the difference between su and su -. But really you need to get to grips with sudo as a better replacement for su. Steps I always take on a new Fedora box to make my life easier. 1/ su - to become root. 2/ visudo to edit the sudoers file. 3/ Uncomment the first line referencing the wheel group. 4/ Save the file. 5/ Edit /etc/groups to add myself to the wheel group. 6/ Exit from su -. Is this better than just adding your userid to the sudoers file? There's almost certainly a good reason for doing it this way that I've forgotten in the mists of time. Some ideas that spring to mind: * This has been a standard Unix approach for as long as I can remember. I was doing this on HP-UX systems almost twenty years ago. * I can use the same method on my own desktop as I use on a larger system where I want to give rights to multiple people. * I only need to edit sudoers once. From then on I can control permissions simply by editing membership of the group (which can be done with a GUI tool as well as by editing the text file). And I will have to learn a bit about the difference between 'su' and 'su -'. su - gives you a login shell. So it's as though you actually logged on as root. su just changes the user. It doesn't, for example, give you root's PATH. Let us know if you have any more questions. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC11 logging in as root - FC10 change not enough?
2009/10/30 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com: OK. So I enable group wheel with visudo. Then I look into adding me to the group. I see the following files in /etc that have group wheel: group, group-, gshadow, and gshadow- You only said to add to group. Yep. That's what I do. Just /etc/group. With just an editor like VI? I went to SystemAdminister'Users and Groups' and went to the Groups tab. Wheel is NOT listed there. No, that's right. I had never checked before. I just assumed it would be there. Sorry about that. I just use vi. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Perl RPM Requires/Provides
As I understand it, the current version of rpmbuild works generates the Requires and Provides definitions for an RPM by parsing the Perl code and working out which modules are used (for Requires) or defined (for Provides). I don't want to get into a discussion of the rights or wrongs of this approach, but for my own RPMs, I'd like to experiment with creating the Requires and Provides definitions by parsing the META.yml file. I've found three files in /usr/lib/rpm - perldeps.pl, perl.prov and perl.req - which seem to do the work, so I assume these are the files I'll need to replace. Can someone please confirm that these are the files that I need to work on and (even better) point me at some documentation for how these programs are called - what inputs and outputs are expected, stuff like that. Also, is there a way to provide my own replacement for these files without just overwriting them. I'd rather not fiddle directly with system supplied code. Any advice appreciated. Cheers, Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: OpenOffice Errors
2009/10/1 Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com: Yesterday I installed OpenOffice on this (new, but completely updated) Fedora 11 system. I installed it from the standard Fedora repositories using yum. Dozens of RPMs were downloaded and installed. But something, somewhere is not right. I first realised there was a problem when I double-clicked on attachments in email and nothing happened. I then tried starting the apps from the menu, but still nothing happened. When trying to run ooffice from the command line, I see the following: $ ooffice /usr/lib/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: line 129: 28286 Bus error $sd_prog/$sd_binary $@ The five digit number varies each time I try it. I'm at rather a loss as to where I can start to track down this problem. Does anyone have any suggestions? In case it's useful to anyone else, here's what finally fixed it. I did a yum update this morning and noticed some errors. /sbin/ldconfig: file /usr/lib/libicudata.so.40.1 is truncated That file is part of libicu, so I ran yum reinstall libicu. And now everything seems to be working fine. I still have no idea a) what caused this truncation or b) why that caused my problem. But anyway, it's fixed now. So I'm happy. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OpenOffice Errors
Yesterday I installed OpenOffice on this (new, but completely updated) Fedora 11 system. I installed it from the standard Fedora repositories using yum. Dozens of RPMs were downloaded and installed. But something, somewhere is not right. I first realised there was a problem when I double-clicked on attachments in email and nothing happened. I then tried starting the apps from the menu, but still nothing happened. When trying to run ooffice from the command line, I see the following: $ ooffice /usr/lib/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: line 129: 28286 Bus error $sd_prog/$sd_binary $@ The five digit number varies each time I try it. I'm at rather a loss as to where I can start to track down this problem. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-terminal question
2009/9/27 bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... Follow the instructions at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html. You don't say which shell you're using, but using the default bash shell, you can do this: $ echo -ne \033]0;A New Title\007 You'll probably need to unset the PROMPT_COMMAND value first; $ export PROMPT_COMMAND= i'm running fedora 9 You know that's unsupported, right? I strongly recommend upgrading. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11: X Startup Problems
This morning I was using my desktop machine without a problem. I ran a yum update to pick up the most recent updates. This afternoon I rebooted the machine and now X won't start. Well X starts to some extent. I get the login screen, but when I type in my username and password I get a blank screen with a spinning cursor for a couple of seconds before being dumped back to the login screen. I've booted the machine into single user mode and edited /etc/inittab so that the machine boots to level 3. I know get a text-based login which I can use to access the system. I tried to run 'startx' to go into X. The screen goes blank as if X is starting, but nothing else happens. I've attached a Xorg.0.log from one of those aborted attempts to start X. My suspicion is that this is caused by something in the yum update that I ran this morning - but I can't see anything that would obviously affect X. Any advice much appreciated. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: X Startup Problems
2009/9/12 Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com: This morning I was using my desktop machine without a problem. I ran a yum update to pick up the most recent updates. This afternoon I rebooted the machine and now X won't start. Well X starts to some extent. I get the login screen, but when I type in my username and password I get a blank screen with a spinning cursor for a couple of seconds before being dumped back to the login screen. I've booted the machine into single user mode and edited /etc/inittab so that the machine boots to level 3. I know get a text-based login which I can use to access the system. I tried to run 'startx' to go into X. The screen goes blank as if X is starting, but nothing else happens. I've attached a Xorg.0.log from one of those aborted attempts to start X. My suspicion is that this is caused by something in the yum update that I ran this morning - but I can't see anything that would obviously affect X. I've just found another thread discussing this issue. Seems to be a problem with xorg-x11-server-Xorg. Downgrading that has fixed the problem. Sorry for posting without checking the archives first. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
amazonmp3
Looks to me like the amazonmp3 downloader isn't going to work under Fedora 11. The version on their download page[1] is built for Fedora 9. This still worked fine under Fedora 10, but I think the updated version of boost in F11 has broken it now. $ package-cleanup --problems Setting up yum Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit Reading local RPM database Processing all local requires Missing dependencies: Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_date_time.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_filesystem.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_iostreams.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_regex.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_signals.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libcrypto.so.7 Package amazonmp3 requires libssl.so.7 I've sent a mail to customer support about this, but I wondered if anyone else had spotted it. Perhaps the more mail they get about it, the quicker they'll rebuild it. Cheers, Dave... [1] http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd.html?forceos=LINUX -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: amazonmp3
2009/6/12 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Dave Cross wrote: Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_date_time.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_filesystem.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_iostreams.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_regex.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_signals.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.3 Package amazonmp3 requires libcrypto.so.7 Package amazonmp3 requires libssl.so.7 The joys of proprietary software... Those are dependencies on the old Boost and OpenSSL. It needs to be rebuilt for the new versions of both. And only they can do it because it's proprietary. Yeah. I realise that. The reply I got from then said: I understand your concern regarding compatibility of Amazon MP3 downloads with Fedora 11. And: I've passed your feedback along to the Amazon MP3 Music team. Of course my mail hasn't gone anywhere near anyone who stands a chance of understanding it. I've never understoof why you need this proprietary software in order to buy complete albums from Amazon. Why can't they just give you a link to a zip file like play.com do? I predict it'll be fixed about the time Fedora 13 is released. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Howto yum update F10-F11?
2009/6/11 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
I failed. I installed fedora-release-11-xxx and rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}-
release-11-xx rpms. This completely broke yum, because the format of
fedora.repo is not understood with F10 yum.
Try updating to F11 yum? No good either, needs python-2.6.
So how is it done?
I'd recommend doing it using preupgrade.
Dave...
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Re: how de delete a ligne from a file
2009/6/10 Chad Kellerman sunck...@gmail.com: pe On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list Is there a method to delete a line from a file withoout editing it! you can use perl perl -p -i -e `s/Line in file you want to remove//' filename That removes the data, but leaves an empty line in its place. To actually remove the line you need something more like: perl -n -i~ -e 'print unless /Line in file you want to remove/' filename I've also given the -i option a value so that you get a backup file. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: git-svnimport
2009/5/10 Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com: Dave Cross wrote: Is git-svnimport packaged in an RPM for Fedora 10 anywhere? I have the git-svn RPM and that includes git-svn (the command that allows git to talk to an existing svn repository). What I'm looking for is git-svnimport (the command that imports an svn repository into a new git repository - so you can then remove the old repository). I can't seem to find it anywhere, but I'm sure it must be around. You want to use git svn, git-svnimport is not supported anymore: http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=commit;h=8cb070a4 Documentation: Remove mentions of git-svnimport. [ snip ] Ah. Yes, I see. Thanks for that. Sounds like 'git clone svn' now does what git-svnimport used to do. Wouldn't it be nice if all pages on the web were automatically updated to say that the software they describe is deprecated :-) Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
git-svnimport
Is git-svnimport packaged in an RPM for Fedora 10 anywhere? I have the git-svn RPM and that includes git-svn (the command that allows git to talk to an existing svn repository). What I'm looking for is git-svnimport (the command that imports an svn repository into a new git repository - so you can then remove the old repository). I can't seem to find it anywhere, but I'm sure it must be around. Thanks, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Task::Kensho from Enlightened Perl
Chris Weyl wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: So I'd like to ask you to add Task::Kensho to the list of perl packages you include in Fedora. Satisfying all of the dependencies will bring a nice subset of CPAN to the Fedora users. One of the points I made in my post was that I've already build RPMs for all of the Kensho modules (or, at least, the ones that aren't already in the Fedora repositories). So if you wanted to move them into the Fedora project you could grab them from http://rpm.mag-sol.com/. Another thing I didn't mention... If you (or anyone, really) wants to submit these packages, I'll help review them. What advantage would that give? The RPMs are are already available for anyone who wants them. I'm not sure why they need another level of validation. Eventually, my plan is to monitor CPAN and to automatically rebuild modules as they are uploaded. I'm also going to make them available at http://rpm.pkgs.cpan.org/. I don't really see any need for this to be part of the Fedora project (particularly as I build RPMs for Centos too). Cheers, Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Task::Kensho from Enlightened Perl
Gabor Szabo wrote: Hi, you might know that there is a relatively new organization called Enlightened Perl http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ One of their projects is to create a CPAN module called Task::Kensho http://search.cpan.org/dist/Task-Kensho/ with the sole purpose of setting the dependencies to a list of highly recommended modules. After seeing the post of Dave Cross http://use.perl.org/~davorg/journal/38730 about building rpms from all the modules I thought it might be a good target for the Fedora Perl maintainers as well to turn those packages to be official Fedora and then maybe Red Hat packages. So I'd like to ask you to add Task::Kensho to the list of perl packages you include in Fedora. Satisfying all of the dependencies will bring a nice subset of CPAN to the Fedora users. One of the points I made in my post was that I've already build RPMs for all of the Kensho modules (or, at least, the ones that aren't already in the Fedora repositories). So if you wanted to move them into the Fedora project you could grab them from http://rpm.mag-sol.com/. One interesting point that was thrown up by this little project. I built the spec file for perl-Task-Kensho using cpanspec. But cpanspec doesn't seem to recognise the Module::Install syntax for declaring dependencies (see, for example [1]) so I had to add the 'Requires' statements manually. With more and more CPAN authors moving to Module::Install, it would be good if cpanspec could be enhanced to support this syntax. Cheers, Dave... [1] http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/PERIGRIN/Task-Kensho-0.0.8/Makefile.PL -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Perl/Tk fedora 10
2009/3/17 Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk: Hello, I am experiencing problem with the following code: I cannot edit the Widget. It was working fine in fc 7. It does seem to be link to nothing to the graphics card or with. (I changed the graphics card). However, it work on another fc10 machine. This one has an Intel DQ965GF Mother board. [ snip ] Patrick, I think I've seen a few mails from you on this subject over the last few days and you don't seem to be getting much of a response. I think that's because Perl/Tk is a relatively minority interest and people on this general list can't offer any help. Can I suggest that you try asking your questions on a couple of more focussed mailing lists. There's the Perl/Tk mailing list at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/ptk. And if you suspect that it's a packaging error in the perl-Tk package, then you might try the the Fedora Perl devel mailing list at https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list. Hope this helps, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Perl modules --- Fedora RPMs (Test::More)
2009/3/4 Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net: On 03/04/2009 11:12:33 AM, Dave Cross wrote: 2009/3/4 Reber, Simon simon.re...@roche.com: I suggest to download the tar.gz package from http://www.cpan.de and install it using: perl Makefile.PL make make install Firstly, if you're going to point someone at CPAN then please use the canonical URL (http://www.cpan.org/) rather than a national mirror. Secondly, mixing RPM-installed modules and CPAN-installed modules in the same Perl installation is a recipe for disaster. I strongly recommend avoiding it whenever possible. Actually, that's not the case. Here's what I do. YMMV. Install _minimal_ Perl as rpms. That's just perl and whatever comes with it on yum install. Then get the CPAN rpm, and whatever comes with it. After this, use cpan to install whatever you need. The cli interface is simple and easy to use. The value of this is that if you install (rather than upgrade) new Fedora distos, your cpan-installed modules are not affected, always assuming that /usr/local is a separate file system. Yeah, I worked like that for years. But my Perl installations always gradually deteriorated. Once I switched to RPM-only installations (and learnt how to make RPMs of CPAN modules that weren't in the repositories) my life became much happier. See http://www.slideshare.net/davorg/perl-in-rpmland-presentation for more details. And http://rpm.mag-sol.com/ for my repository of RPMs of CPAN modules. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Perl modules --- Fedora RPMs (Test::More)
2009/3/4 Stanisław T. Findeisen sf181...@students.mimuw.edu.pl: How can I know which RPM in Fedora release contains which Perl modules? In particular I want to install Test::More, but don't know where to look for that. :-/ I usually go and search for the module at http://search.cpan.org/. That'll tell you which CPAN distribution contains the module. Then it's just a case of translating the CPAN distribution name to an RPM name. For example, Test::More is included in the Test-Simple distribution. The RPM name is therefore perl-Test-Simple. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Perl modules --- Fedora RPMs (Test::More)
2009/3/4 Reber, Simon simon.re...@roche.com: I suggest to download the tar.gz package from http://www.cpan.de and install it using: perl Makefile.PL make make install Firstly, if you're going to point someone at CPAN then please use the canonical URL (http://www.cpan.org/) rather than a national mirror. Secondly, mixing RPM-installed modules and CPAN-installed modules in the same Perl installation is a recipe for disaster. I strongly recommend avoiding it whenever possible. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Something Broke My Grub
An hour ago I had a fully functioning machine. Now I just get the word GRUB in the top left of the screen. Something has gone wrong in the last hour or so. Here's what I did. * Earlier today I ran a yum update which pulled in a new kernel. I didn't reboot the system at that point. * Later on I installed mediatomb and started playing with that. * After a while I got bored and stopped the mediatomb daemon. * At that point I realised that my network connection had dropped. * I tried to restart the network, but it claimed that the device (eth1) was already in use. * So I decided to reboot. Kill two birds with one stone, try out the new kernel and hopefully unstick the networking. * At which point I discovered that something was broken in the GRUB configuration. I can boot the system using the rescue disk and everything seems ok (as far as I can tell). So I think it's just something wrong with GRUB - perhaps caused by today's kernel upgrade. Has anyone else seen anything like this? And, more importantly, does anyone have any suggestions of ways to fix it? Thanks, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something Broke My Grub
2009/3/4 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com: On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:20:50 +, Dave wrote: An hour ago I had a fully functioning machine. Now I just get the word GRUB in the top left of the screen. Something has gone wrong in the last hour or so. Has happened to many people before: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/450143 Here's what I did. You installed a kernel update, which runs /sbin/new-kernel-pkg which in turn reinstalls GRUB via grubby. The kernel package is not the culprit, however. Something at run-time has changed your system environment in a way that confused the GRUB installation. How exactly remains to be found out. Has anyone else seen anything like this? And, more importantly, does anyone have any suggestions of ways to fix it? You need to reinstall GRUB just once more. Use rescue mode, for example. I think above bz ticket gives hints. Thanks for the help. Running grub-install /dev/sda seems to have fixed the problem. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing perl modules on F10
2009/2/6 L yuan...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/6 Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au: Hi list, So whats the recommended way of installing perl modules in Fedora 10? rpm and/or yum What we have been doing in the past is to install a perl-* rpm via yum if one is available for the module we want. If the module is not available via rpm, we use perl -MCPAN -e shell to install modules. I really don't recommend that. Mixing rpm-installed modules and cpan-installed modules is very likely to lead to unhappiness. You may find my Perl in RPM-Land presentation interesting. http://www.slideshare.net/davorg/perl-in-rpmland-presentation I use cpan2rpm, you install cpan2rpm by yum install capan2rpm then for example: cpan2rpm -i Statistics::Distribution or cpan2rpm --no-sign -i Statistics::Regression I changed Pod::Text in /usr/bin/cpan2rpm to Pod::Parser It is very handy cpanspec is what the Fedora Perl team use to build RPMs from CPAN modules. you may find it builds nicer RPMs than cpan2rpm. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing perl modules on F10
2009/2/6 Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: Hi list, So whats the recommended way of installing perl modules in Fedora 10? This is not the recommended way, it's just another way. If perl is already install in your system and using cpan, then do $ sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Bundle::CPAN' The Bundle::CPAN is just an example. Any module can be installed that way. You can use yumex to install CPAN.pm A few random points that you might find interesting. * There's no need to install CPAN.pm, as it has been included with the standard Perl distribution since Perl 5.004. * If you're using CPAN.pm then you might find it easier to use the command line tool 'cpan' instead. To install Some::module, just type $ cpan Some::Module * Since Perl 5.10 (i.e. the version included with Fedora 10), the standard Perl distribution has also included CPANPLUS.pm and its command line tool 'cpanp'. These are very much like the CPAN.pm tools that you mention but are more flexible. * If you are using CPAN.pm (or CPANPLUS.pm) to install modules into a Perl installation which also includes CPAN modules which have been installed using rpm (or yum) then you need to be very careful as it's possible to end up with multiple versions of the same module installed. For that reason, I strongly recommend _not_ installing modules using CPAN.pm, but building RPMs using cpanspec and installing those. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for three FC10 RPMs
2009/2/8 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: I'm looking for three FC10 RPMs, I'm trying to install gscrot-0.64~ppa12-1.fc10.noarch.rpm it is a frontend for scrot that is in the Fedora FC10 repos perl-Gnome2-Wnck perl-Goo-Canvas perl-Image-Magick I can't help with the other two, but perl-Image-Magick is called ImageMagick-perl. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing perl modules on F10
2009/2/6 Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au: Hi list, So whats the recommended way of installing perl modules in Fedora 10? rpm and/or yum What we have been doing in the past is to install a perl-* rpm via yum if one is available for the module we want. If the module is not available via rpm, we use perl -MCPAN -e shell to install modules. I really don't recommend that. Mixing rpm-installed modules and cpan-installed modules is very likely to lead to unhappiness. You may find my Perl in RPM-Land presentation interesting. http://www.slideshare.net/davorg/perl-in-rpmland-presentation Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update errors (Fedora 10)
2008/12/8 Kevin Kempter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I ran yum update and got the below errors. Anyone have any thoughts / advice ? Thanks in advance # yum update [ snip ] Error: Missing Dependency: libpackagekit-glib.so.10()(64bit) is needed by package gnome-packagekit-0.3.9-8.fc10.x86_64 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: libpackagekit-qt.so.10()(64bit) is needed by package kpackagekit-0.3.1-4.fc10.x86_64 (installed) I'm seeing the same thing. Looks like an incomplete set of packagekit updates has been pushed to the repos. There are news version of PackageKit-glib and PackageKit-qt, but no associated new versions of gnome-packagekit and kpackagekit. It's the kind of issue that will probably sort itself out in a day or two as the correct packages get pushed out. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Missing Dependency: libpackagekit-glib.so.10
2008/12/9 Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also am having problems with FC10 update and packagekit dependencies and I don't use anything but fedora, rpmfusion, and livna repos. Yes. It has nothing to do with third-party repos. It was an inconsistent set of updates that were pushed to the Fedora updates repo. The problem will clear when the corrected RPMs get pushed to the repos in the next couple of days. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
2008/12/5 Mike Dwiggins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I upgraded a throw away test system from FC 8 to FC 10. When it finished, I tried logging in as root user and could not. Logging in as a normal user I went to a text session and the su command worked with the old root password. Did I do something wrong or is this something new to 10? Disabling root login is a common security practice. Sounds like it's been disabled by default in F10. That's got to be a good thing. As someone else has said, you can enable it again by fiddling with the pam files, but please consider whether you really want to do that. Why not log as a normal user and then use su (or, better, sudo) on the rare occasions when you need root access? Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Perl RPM bindings in F10
2008/11/27 Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In F10, I cannot compile neither Perl-RPM nor Perl-RPM2. Am I boned? Looks like the Fedora Perl package maintainers might have reached the same conclusion. RPM2 was included in Fedora 9, but appears to have been dropped for Fedora 10. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-RPM2 Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Perl RPM bindings in F10
2008/11/27 Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I thought, perhaps, there might be a replacement package for Perl bindings for RPM. It looks like there might be. http://search.cpan.org/dist/RPM4/ I assume that the '4' in its name means that it's based on RPM 4.x. But it doesn't seem to be any better maintained than the other two. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox rpm source
2008/11/21 Iarly Selbir [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, where can i get the firefox rpm source ( last stable version for fedora - )? The most recent SRPMs are in http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/9/SRPMS.newkey/ Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora Hangs on Laptop
2008/11/7 Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm running Fedora 9 on a Dell XPS M1330 laptop. I'm using one of the earliest F9 kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9.i686.PAE) because I've been unable to get a wireless connection with any later kernel that I've tried. But I'm having huge problems with this kernel too. At random times the machine just freezes completely. The capslock and num-lock buttons flash on and off but the only way out of it seems to be to turn the system off and restart. Sometimes it can be an hour or so before the problems occurs, but more often it's a few minutes. This obviously makes the system pretty much unusable. I can use the system for as long as Iike when I boot it into Vista. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Or do you have any suggestions on how I can help to investigate the problem? Last night I tried the Fedora 10 preview on this machine and I'm pleased to report that not only did the wireless problems go away, but I was able to use the system for three hours without it hanging. Fedora 10 looks like a lovely release. I'm really looking forward to the official version. Many thanks to everyone who was involved. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora Hangs on Laptop
I'm running Fedora 9 on a Dell XPS M1330 laptop. I'm using one of the earliest F9 kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9.i686.PAE) because I've been unable to get a wireless connection with any later kernel that I've tried. But I'm having huge problems with this kernel too. At random times the machine just freezes completely. The capslock and num-lock buttons flash on and off but the only way out of it seems to be to turn the system off and restart. Sometimes it can be an hour or so before the problems occurs, but more often it's a few minutes. This obviously makes the system pretty much unusable. I can use the system for as long as Iike when I boot it into Vista. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Or do you have any suggestions on how I can help to investigate the problem? Thanks, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Wireless Issues on Dell XPS 1330m
I've got a new Dell XPS 1330m laptop and I've installed Fedora 9 on it. I have a couple of problems with the wireless connectivity. Any advice would be appreciated. According to hwbrowser, the card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection. This is detected and configured correctly by NetworkManager. It's probably worth pointing out that my machine uses the PAE version of the kernel. When I first installed Fedora, it installed kernel-PAE-2.6.25-14.fc9.i686. When this kernel first boots, NetworkManager sees many wireless networks around me, but not mine. However if I select Connect to Other Wireless Network and type in my network name it connects successfully and I have no problems. Under previous versions of Fedora (on my old laptop) NetworkManager would find and connect to my network automatically. It would be nice to get this behaviour back. So under 2.6.25 things work, just sub-optimally. Under more recent kernels, the situation is worse. I've updated the system a couple of times and I now also have kernel-PAE-2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 and kernel-PAE-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686. Under either of these kernels, my network is still not detected and even when I try to force a connection, it still doesn't work. Here's a dump of /var/log/messages for a failed connection attempt. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) starting connection 'Auto MAGNUM' Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 3 - 4 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 4 - 5 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): connection 'Auto MAGNUM' requires no security. No secrets needed. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Config: added 'ssid' value 'MAGNUM' Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'NONE' Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state change: 1 - 2 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state change: 2 - 3 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel kernel: wlan0 (WE) : Wireless Event too big (344) Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state change: 3 - 4 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state change: 4 - 7 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0/wireless) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful. Connected to wireless network 'MAGNUM'. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started... Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info (wlan0): device state change: 5 - 7 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Beginning DHCP transaction. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info dhclient started with pid 2992 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.0.0 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: Copyright 2004-2007 Internet Systems Consortium. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: All rights reserved. Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: Oct 12 18:45:26 angel NetworkManager: info DHCP: device wlan0 state changed (null) - preinit Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:21:5c:64:ab:e5 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: Sending on LPF/wlan0/00:21:5c:64:ab:e5 Oct 12 18:45:26 angel dhclient: Sending on Socket/fallback Oct 12 18:45:29 angel dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 Oct 12 18:45:35 angel dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 Oct 12 18:45:43 angel dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 Oct 12 18:45:54 angel dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16 Oct 12 18:46:10 angel dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 Oct 12 18:46:11 angel NetworkManager: info Device 'wlan0'
Nidia Drivers for PAE Kernel
My new XPS 1330m laptop has an nVidia GeForce 8400M GS video card. I'd therefore like to use the kmod-nvidia drivers from Livna. However, this system uses a PAE kernel and it doesn't look like kmod-nvidia is built for this architecture. Has anyone else done this? Is my best approach to grab the kmod-nvidia SRPMS and rebuild them? Or can I get the RPMs from somewhere else? Any advice appreciated. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nidia Drivers for PAE Kernel
2008/10/12 Mail Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/12/2008 02:23 PM, Dave Cross wrote: My new XPS 1330m laptop has an nVidia GeForce 8400M GS video card. I'd the PAE drivers are on livna .. the latest F8 is kmod-nvidia-2.6.26.5-28.fc8PAE-173.14.12-4.lvn8.i686.rpm They add the PAE (or xen etc) on the end. If you have the PAE kernel installed and livna repo in yum - it may work just to do yum install kmod-nvidia/ It was trying yum install kmod-nvidia and it was trying to pull down the standard kernel. That's what convinced me that it wasn't there. But it seems the yum install kmod-nvidia-PAE does the trick. Thanks for your help. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wireless Issues on Dell XPS 1330m
2008/10/12 Mail Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/12/2008 02:17 PM, Dave Cross wrote: So under 2.6.25 things work, just sub-optimally. Under more recent kernels, the situation is worse. I've updated the system a couple of times and I now also have kernel-PAE-2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 and kernel-PAE-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686. Under either of these kernels, my network is still not detected and even when I try to force a connection, it still doesn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can help to get this fixed? Seems that all 2.6.x kernels dont work with WPA/2 - and may even crash on occasion. My advice - make sure you keep 2.6.25 and wait till it eventually gets fixed. YOu may find it helpful to turn on SSID broadcast if its off - there is zero loss of security and things will work better. Thanks for the advice. I already have SSID broadcast turned on - that's why I'm puzzled that it doesn't appear on Network Manager's list. Is there a report in Bugzilla where I can track the progress of this issue? Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Adding Padre to Fedora
Gabor Szabo wrote: 2008/8/29 Marcela Maslanova [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I try to find solution for missing shared objects on internet, but I found only your question on the same problem ;-) Could be possible that Wx is broken? There are some seriously looking bugs at http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=Wx I hope that you found out at conference and now I go to test your new version of padre. Hi Marcela, as a start you can try to download the binary version of Padre so at least we'll know if that works in Fedora. http://padre.perlide.org/wiki/Download I've successfully downloaded and run your prebuilt version of Padre on Fedora 9. I get an error on startup but it seems to work fine. I haven't actually tried to do much with it. BTW 0.06 has been released with a slightly different set of prereqs. Wx is indeed difficult to install and I don't have much knowledge about it. Maybe you could post the errors on the wxperl mailing list http://wxperl.sourceforge.net/support.html The problem doesn't seem to be Wx. There's already a prebuild perl-Wx in the Fedora repositories. There are a few of your other pre-reqs missing from the Fedora repositories, but the only one I'm having any trouble building is Wx::Perl::ProcessStream. That seems to fail some (most?) of its tests on my machine. I'll carry on trying and let you know how it goes. Maybe Dave Cross can also help, though he is not a Wx person but he knows a few things about Perl and Fedora. Maybe. We'll see :-) Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Laptop Recommendations
I'm about to buy a new laptop. And I'd like to buy one that works well with Fedora 9. My current thinking is to go with something from Dell, because they support Ubuntu on some of their laptops - and if something works with Ubuntu then there's a good chance that it can be made to work with Fedora. I'm very tempted by their new Studio range, but they don't (yet) sell them with Ubuntu on so I suspect there might be dragons there. But I thought I'd ask if anyone here had any other suggestions. I'm looking for a light laptop with something like a 12 screen, a 2 Ghz or more processor, 2 Gb of RAM, 300 Gb hard disk, wireless and bluetooth. Working well with Fedora is my primary concern. I'm hoping to spend about £800, but could go to £1,000 for the right machine. Any suggestions? Or suggestions of better places to go for suggestions? Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Installation Challenge
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 07:19 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross wrote: As mentioned in a couple of previous mails to this list, trying to upgrade my laptop[1] from F8 to F9 has gone horribly wrong. I'd really appreciate any help to fix this. I basically have two problems. 1/ I can't use any of the Fedora boot media. This is well discussed here. The new media has GRUB on it (starting with F8). Some BIOS don't like it and the keyboard becomes unusable, or the machine hard hangs. The workaround is to prevent the GRUB menu from coming up. There are two methods that have been discussed, one of which I have used many times. (I install 30-40 systems a week in testing, sometimes) As the machine boots to media, after BIOS messages, and before any boot messages, press Escape repeatedly. This will prevent GRUB from loading and provide the old style prompts. The keyboard will work here. Also, someone suggested recently that holding down the left shift key will have the same effect. I have not tested this yet. In any case, the workaround is to prevent GRUB from loading. Phil, Thanks. I've been able to prevent GRUB from loading and get to a boot: prompt. And the keyboard is still working at that point. My problem now, is that I have no idea what to type at that prompt. I would guess either hit return for default X oriented install ot upgrade or type text for text install or upgrade. Thanks for the suggestion. I finally got time to try it out. All t hat happened is that the CD drive spun for a while. Nothing else happened. I really wanted it to be that simple too :-( Any other suggestions, Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Installation Challenge
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross wrote: As mentioned in a couple of previous mails to this list, trying to upgrade my laptop[1] from F8 to F9 has gone horribly wrong. I'd really appreciate any help to fix this. I basically have two problems. 1/ I can't use any of the Fedora boot media. This is well discussed here. The new media has GRUB on it (starting with F8). Some BIOS don't like it and the keyboard becomes unusable, or the machine hard hangs. The workaround is to prevent the GRUB menu from coming up. There are two methods that have been discussed, one of which I have used many times. (I install 30-40 systems a week in testing, sometimes) As the machine boots to media, after BIOS messages, and before any boot messages, press Escape repeatedly. This will prevent GRUB from loading and provide the old style prompts. The keyboard will work here. Also, someone suggested recently that holding down the left shift key will have the same effect. I have not tested this yet. In any case, the workaround is to prevent GRUB from loading. Phil, Thanks. I've been able to prevent GRUB from loading and get to a boot: prompt. And the keyboard is still working at that point. My problem now, is that I have no idea what to type at that prompt. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Installation Challenge
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Raymond C. Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross wrote: As mentioned in a couple of previous mails to this list, trying to upgrade my laptop[1] from F8 to F9 has gone horribly wrong. I'd really appreciate any help to fix this. I basically have two problems. 1/ I can't use any of the Fedora boot media. When I boot with the installation DVD I get to the press enter to install or upgrade Fedora screen, but the keyboard is disabled so I can't press enter. I've also tried with the Live CD and the rescue disk, but neither of those work either. I've also created a boot USB key, but the BIOS on this system doesn't support booting like that. This is a problem I've hard with Fedora installation media right back to F7. For the last few upgrades I've used yum upgrade. Simple, if obvious question: Have you tried using an external keyboard? Naturally, most keyboards should just work regardless of the operating system, including on a laptop, but if it isn't, perhaps trying an external keyboard may help. Off hand, it sounds like your laptop's keyboard may be using USB internally rather than the PS2 standards, and perhaps it the BIOS doesn't have any option for legacy USB keyboard support or something along those lines. If it has a PS2 port, try connecting a PS2 keyboard to it and see if that will allow you to install. If not, perhaps an external USB keyboard will work. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't know if the keyboard is using a USB connection internally, and I don't know how to find out. The BIOS has a Legacy USB option which switches between off and auto. I've tried both options and it makes no difference. The laptop has no PS2 port. I've tried an external USB keyboard, but it made no difference. Cheers. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Installation Challenge
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 22:27 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: As mentioned in a couple of previous mails to this list, trying to upgrade my laptop[1] from F8 to F9 has gone horribly wrong. I'd really appreciate any help to fix this. I basically have two problems. 1/ I can't use any of the Fedora boot media. When I boot with the installation DVD I get to the press enter to install or upgrade Fedora screen, but the keyboard is disabled so I can't press enter. I've also tried with the Live CD and the rescue disk, but neither of those work either. I've also created a boot USB key, but the BIOS on this system doesn't support booting like that. This is a problem I've hard with Fedora installation media right back to F7. For the last few upgrades I've used yum upgrade. 2/ I then tried to use preupgrade. It all seemed to go ok until the end, when I got an error about a missing kernel. On rebooting, grub only shows me Windows and the preupgrade options (no standard Linux). The preupgrade option doesn't work (errors about missing files). Booting into Windows and using Explore2FS shows that a lot (if not all) of the kernel rpm seems to be missing. So that's the current situation. Most of F9 seems to be installed, but I can't boot it. I think it would work if I could boot the rescue disk and force an installation of the kernel rpm. But I can't boot the rescue disk. I've run out of ideas. I really want Fedora on this laptop, but I can't think of a way to do it. Any advice that anyone can give me would be much appreciated. If anyone can give me information that allows me to get F9 installed on this laptop then I've got $100 that I'd like to donate to your favourite open source project or charity. can you boot the F9 DVD with an external USB keyboard? Using an external USB keyboard makes no difference. The keyboard is still dead. Thanks for the suggestion tho'. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Installation Challenge
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:27:00 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: [...] So that's the current situation. Most of F9 seems to be installed, but I can't boot it. I think it would work if I could boot the rescue disk and force an installation of the kernel rpm. But I can't boot the rescue disk. I've run out of ideas. I really want Fedora on this laptop, but I can't think of a way to do it. Any advice that anyone can give me would be much appreciated. In the course of much trouble with installing F9 on one of my machines, I found that it helped to use an external USB CD/DVD drive -- but only if the drive was plugged directly into that machine, with no hub, switch, nor anything else in between. Then, and only then (after I also got the BIOS set up to see and boot from that drive), could I do it. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't have an external DVD drive. I'll have to see if I can borrow one from somewhere. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 Installation Challenge
As mentioned in a couple of previous mails to this list, trying to upgrade my laptop[1] from F8 to F9 has gone horribly wrong. I'd really appreciate any help to fix this. I basically have two problems. 1/ I can't use any of the Fedora boot media. When I boot with the installation DVD I get to the press enter to install or upgrade Fedora screen, but the keyboard is disabled so I can't press enter. I've also tried with the Live CD and the rescue disk, but neither of those work either. I've also created a boot USB key, but the BIOS on this system doesn't support booting like that. This is a problem I've hard with Fedora installation media right back to F7. For the last few upgrades I've used yum upgrade. 2/ I then tried to use preupgrade. It all seemed to go ok until the end, when I got an error about a missing kernel. On rebooting, grub only shows me Windows and the preupgrade options (no standard Linux). The preupgrade option doesn't work (errors about missing files). Booting into Windows and using Explore2FS shows that a lot (if not all) of the kernel rpm seems to be missing. So that's the current situation. Most of F9 seems to be installed, but I can't boot it. I think it would work if I could boot the rescue disk and force an installation of the kernel rpm. But I can't boot the rescue disk. I've run out of ideas. I really want Fedora on this laptop, but I can't think of a way to do it. Any advice that anyone can give me would be much appreciated. If anyone can give me information that allows me to get F9 installed on this laptop then I've got $100 that I'd like to donate to your favourite open source project or charity. Cheers, Dave... [1] A Philips Freevents X51 - which is a rebadged Twinhead 12D. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 07:34 +, Dave Cross wrote: I also have this problem. Not many days go by without me needing a CPAN module that isn't pre-packaged into an RPM. In those cases I often find that cpanspec works to whip up a quick RPM that that I can use. I don't know how many of those automatically generated RPMs would reach the standards required for inclusion in Fedora, but I'm slowly (manually!) making them available at http://rpm.mag-sol.com/ And why don't you contribute them back to fedora instead shipping them on your own for your private pleasures? Well, I'm not sure that putting them on a public web site constitutes shipping them for my private pleasures :) I've always had a sneaking suspicion that what I've got are good enough for me, but not for Fedora's repositories. I suspect that to do that I'd need to put more time into cleaning up the specs than I can spare. But, yes, I agree that it's something I should do. Once I've sorted out what I've got and made sure that a) they're all up to date and b) nothing duplicates stuff already available from Fedora, then I'll look at submitting them to the Fedora approval process. Cheers, Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters
Steven Pritchard wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:34:27AM +, Dave Cross wrote: http://rpm.mag-sol.com/ I just took a quick look at that, and I noticed that a *bunch* of those modules are already available in Fedora... Yep. I noticed that over the weekend as well. They were created when they weren't available. It all needs a good clean-out. Remove the ones that are now available from Fedora and ensure I have up to date builds of the ones that aren't. I've started sketching out plans to automate this. The long easter weekend looks like a good time to start to implement them. BTW, since YAPC::NA isn't all that far from me, I just submitted a proposal for a talk on Fedora perl packaging... http://blog.stevecoinc.com/2008/03/yapcna-2008-abstract.html That all sounds very interesting. I won't be there unfortunately as there's an ocean between me and YAPC::NA :) - but I look forward to seeing your slides. Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters
Emmanuel Seyman wrote: search.cpan.org always calls a module's licence as Unknown no matter how clearly the licence is in the source code itself. That's no longer true. See, for example: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Symbol-Approx-Sub/ Which includes Perl (Artistic and GPL). I'm pretty sure that's driven by the licence key in META.yml. And having your distribution containing both machine-readable and human-readable licence information are two of the CPANTS project's kwalitee measures - see, for example, http://cpants.perl.org/dist/kwalitee/Symbol-Approx-Sub So, this is an issue that the Perl community is aware of and is working on. Cheers, Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:19 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: IMHO there is very little communication between the distro communities and the Perl community. Some Debian people have started a dialog on the last YAPC in Vienna and I wish we can increase that even further. The QA Workshop in Oslo would be a great opportunity for that but if none of you can come then the next YAPC::EU in Coppenhagen can be also good for more personal contact. sigh/ That's fundamental problem community-driven/maintained distros like Fedora and Debian: Volunteers don't have travel budgets ;) If there are meetings like this where it is beneficial to Perl if people meet up to face to face, then it's possible that The Perl Foundation[1] would be interested in sponsoring at least part of the travel and accommodation costs. If you're interested, then it's certainly worth speaking to them about it. Dave... [1] http://foundation.perl.org/ -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters
Gabor Szabo wrote: Lately I have also arrived to the conclusion that if you are not interested in bleeding edge Perl development then you should use only the modules supplied by your OS or Perl vendor. For that having only 1000 modules is way too low. A couple of years ago I reached the same conclusion. All of my Fedora systems now only have CPAN modules that are installed as RPMs. I am using a wide range of Linux distros as I am a consultant and every client uses somethings else. I encounter missing modules on daily bases so I have no choice but to use CPAN.pm. I also have this problem. Not many days go by without me needing a CPAN module that isn't pre-packaged into an RPM. In those cases I often find that cpanspec works to whip up a quick RPM that that I can use. I don't know how many of those automatically generated RPMs would reach the standards required for inclusion in Fedora, but I'm slowly (manually!) making them available at http://rpm.mag-sol.com/ Cheers, Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Catalyst / DBIx::Class / SQL::Translator
Last September there was some talk on this about getting Catalyst (and therefore DBIx::Class and SQL::Translator) into Extras. Was there any progress on this? And if people are help up through lack of resources, is there anything I can do to help? Cheers, Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Catalyst spec files now online - Sorry
Roy-Magne Mo wrote: It seems to be a monumental job to get all these in, how about starting with DBIx::Class? I'll gladly help the effort :) There seem to be some FC RPMs for DBIx::Class and Catalyst (and also Plagger, I'd _love_ to get Plagger in Fedora Extras!) online already at http://pub.woremacx.com/fedora/yum/i386/ Are they any use? I haven't used them yet. Dave... -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: CPAN Module RPMs
Quoting Paul Howarth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Cross wrote: I've just started to dabble with packaging RPMs from CPAN modules and making them available for download (see http://rpm.mag-sol.com/). This had brought up a number of questions that people on this list would probably be best placed to answer. 1/ Currently I've been using cpan2rpm to build the RPMs. Are there any better tools out there? What do you use to create RPMs from CPAN distributions? Try cpanspec (it's in Extras). I don't use it myself but I know a lot of packages in Extras were built starting from a cpanspec package. Ah. That looks a lot better. Thanks. 2/ Are there any good tools for building web pages from RPMs. I've played with rpm2html but I don't want to my web pages to look like it's still 1998. Something that interfaces with the Template Toolkit would be great, and I'd be happy to write that if it doesn't already exist. How about repoview, which is used by Fedpra Extras, e.g.: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/5/i386/repodata/ That looks useful. But it only took me 15 minutes to put together Template::Plugin::RPM2 (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Plugin-RPM2/) which is a thin TT wrapper around the Perl module RPM2. 3/ I assume there are standards that define how CPAN modules should be packaged for use with Fedora (I'm largely targeting Fedora - if the RPMs work with other distributions then that's a bonus). Are they documented somewhere? Using cpanspec will give you a good starting point as I believe it's based on the Fedora perl package template. The packages should meet the general packaging guidelines (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines) and some tips for perl packages in particular can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Perl Lots of interesting reading there. Thanks for all the help. Dave... -- Site: http://dave.org.uk/ Blog: http://blog.dave.org.uk/ -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
