Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax . wrote: > Hi All, > > Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP & FW & GW to ADSL Internet. > > I have: > - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 > configured with DSN' of ISP > - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' > of ISP > - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf > - named is running > - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port) > - iptables running > - FW has dns ports (53) open > - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface > - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as > well (via eth2). > > >From another box in the LAN: >> ping 10.255.250.37 > responds normal way >> host isp.com 10.255.250.37 > doesn't respond > (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, but > they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq reports 0 > requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent) > > My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins? Maybe you need to - echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92 Regards, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax . wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP & FW & GW to ADSL Internet. >> >> I have: >> - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 >> configured with DSN' of ISP >> - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' >> of ISP >> - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf >> - named is running >> - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port) >> - iptables running >> - FW has dns ports (53) open >> - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface >> - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as >> well (via eth2). >> >> >From another box in the LAN: >>> ping 10.255.250.37 >> responds normal way >>> host isp.com 10.255.250.37 >> doesn't respond >> (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, >> but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq >> reports 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent) >> >> My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins? > > Maybe you need to - > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > and > > iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92 Assuming, you set up 10.255.250.0 as class C - not right, but, people do it sometimes. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome applications and .bash_profile
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Mikkel wrote: >> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: >>> It looks like environment variables set in .bash_profile are visible >>> to applications started in gnome but not via a shell. For example >>> evolution knows when I modify LC_COLLATE. >>> >> It depends on the type of shell. Only a login shell reads >> .bash_profile. If you are starting a (x)terminal, and launching the >> program from there, the default is not to run your as a login shell. > > Stuff that you need defined irrespective of the type of shell should go in > ~/.bashrc Correction: ~/.bashrc is for non-login shells *only*. So, you will need to put the stuff in both ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome applications and .bash_profile
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Mikkel wrote: > Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: >> It looks like environment variables set in .bash_profile are visible >> to applications started in gnome but not via a shell. For example >> evolution knows when I modify LC_COLLATE. >> > It depends on the type of shell. Only a login shell reads > .bash_profile. If you are starting a (x)terminal, and launching the > program from there, the default is not to run your as a login shell. Stuff that you need defined irrespective of the type of shell should go in ~/.bashrc Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to list this data -
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 10/31/2009 07:41 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> >> I can extract the following usage data from the Wildblue html usage >> screen. >> I would like to have them in a file that would put the data on a >> horizontal line separated by some white space perhaps. >> >> My objective being to keep a record of daily bandwidth usage. [35% or >> 6.0 gB is my current usage, 17.0 the 30 day download allotment, the >> other numbers for upload usage.] >> >> [b...@box9 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/usg.txt >> >> 35 % >> 6.0 >> 17.0 >> 8 % >> 0.4 >> 5.0 >> >> I've been puzzling over this since yesterday, I'm sure there must be a >> simple solution but I just haven't found it. >> >> Can someone point me in the right direction? >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> . >> > > With bash only: cat /home/bobg/usg.txt | tr "\n" " " Complete shell "in-process" implementation - $ echo `< usg.txt` or $ echo $(< usg.txt) Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: setting Num lock on by default
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: > Use `setled' if in runlevel 3 or `xset -led' (RTFM) under X. Typo - setleds Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: setting Num lock on by default
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Hiisi wrote: > 2009/10/11 Kam Leo : >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Hiisi wrote: >>> 2009/10/11 suvayu ali : Hi everyone, > <--SNIP--> > But it seemed to me that only works in runlevel 5. > <--SNIP--> >> >> NumLockX may not help you in runlevel 3. You might have to run the >> script listed at http://www.userlocal.com/tips/activatingnumlock.php >> > It seems to me the OP asked how to set Num on by default not in > runlevel: 5 either Use `setled' if in runlevel 3 or `xset -led' (RTFM) under X. HTH, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: libvirtd and public access to guests
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Pavel Lisy wrote: >> Hello >> >> I've started playing with libvirt and I have question? >> >> What is proper way to make guest accessible from net. >> >> I have mode=nat /var/lib/libvirt/network/default.xml. >> >> libvirtd makes this rules in FORWARD chain >> >> -A FORWARD -d 192.168.231.0/24 -o virbr0 -m state --state >> RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT >> -A FORWARD -s 192.168.231.0/24 -i virbr0 -j ACCEPT >> -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT >> -A FORWARD -o virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable >> -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable >> -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited >> >> If I add >> iptables -I FORWARD -i eth0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT >> guests are accessible >> >> My question is: >> Is is possible write this somewhere to configuration? >> >> I've tried to put it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables but it libvirtd put his >> rules before mine. >> >> >> I've found two directories >> /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/filter >> /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/nat > > I was hoping someone with more experience would help you on this issue. > > It is better to write your own rules than messing with these files > (/var/lib/libvirt). > > The default network mode of libvirt is a private network behind NAT. > The guests are provided > an IP address via DHCP. If you want a guest to be accessible from the > Internet then you will > have to configure static IP in your guest, ensure that you give an IP > in the 192.168.231.0/24 > range. > > Then you will have to set up DNAT iptable rules. AFAIK, to prevent > libvirt from overriding your > rules, you should be using "-I" (INSERT) instead of "-A" (APPEND). Put > your rules in the file > /etc/sysconfig/iptables > > This is the theory. I *do not* use libvirt. I use VDE for my > networking with command line KVM. > > HTH, > Didar > Forgot to add - you have to "INSERT" the rules in reverse order so that the correct sequence of rules are put in place. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: libvirtd and public access to guests
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Pavel Lisy wrote: > Hello > > I've started playing with libvirt and I have question? > > What is proper way to make guest accessible from net. > > I have mode=nat /var/lib/libvirt/network/default.xml. > > libvirtd makes this rules in FORWARD chain > > -A FORWARD -d 192.168.231.0/24 -o virbr0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED > -j ACCEPT > -A FORWARD -s 192.168.231.0/24 -i virbr0 -j ACCEPT > -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT > -A FORWARD -o virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable > -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable > -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > > If I add > iptables -I FORWARD -i eth0 -o virbr0 -j ACCEPT > guests are accessible > > My question is: > Is is possible write this somewhere to configuration? > > I've tried to put it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables but it libvirtd put his > rules before mine. > > > I've found two directories > /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/filter > /var/lib/libvirt/iptables/nat I was hoping someone with more experience would help you on this issue. It is better to write your own rules than messing with these files (/var/lib/libvirt). The default network mode of libvirt is a private network behind NAT. The guests are provided an IP address via DHCP. If you want a guest to be accessible from the Internet then you will have to configure static IP in your guest, ensure that you give an IP in the 192.168.231.0/24 range. Then you will have to set up DNAT iptable rules. AFAIK, to prevent libvirt from overriding your rules, you should be using "-I" (INSERT) instead of "-A" (APPEND). Put your rules in the file /etc/sysconfig/iptables This is the theory. I *do not* use libvirt. I use VDE for my networking with command line KVM. HTH, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB wireless broadband modem from Vodafone on F11 HOW TO CONNECT?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:27 PM, L wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM, L wrote: > >> >> thanks, my modem is E620 too. after activated, i was give >> >> account number 4000x >> MSISDN 0451xx alike mobile number >> pin xx >> >> which of these is phone, password and username in wvdial,conf >> >> thanks for your help >> >> fater put this > > phone = *99# > username = 0451xx > password= > > in the wvdial.conf > > I get this messege > > > > >> YATZ >> OK >> --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 >> ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 >> OK >> --> Modem initialized. >> --> Cannot get information for serial port. >> --> Initializing modem. >> --> Sending: ATZ >> ATZ >> OK >> --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 >> ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 >> OK >> --> Modem initialized. >> --> Sending: ATDT*99# >> --> Waiting for carrier. >> ATDT*99# >> CONNECT >> --> Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. >> --> Starting pppd at Fri Oct 9 00:52:53 2009 >> --> Pid of pppd: 6947 >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> Using interface ppp0 >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> Authentication (CHAP) started >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> Authentication (CHAP) started >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> Authentication (CHAP) successful >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> pppd: H[1b]< `[19]< >> --> Disconnecting at Fri Oct 9 00:52:58 2009 >> --> The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16) >> --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. >> --> Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the wvdial and pppd man >> pages for more information. >> --> Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 20 seconds >> --> Cannot get information for serial port. >> --> Initializing modem. >> --> Sending: ATZ >> ATZ >> OK >> --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 >> ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 >> OK >> > Does it not connect at all. Error 16 means modem hang-up. It happened to me once, but, I could connect after wvdial redialed. Regards, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB wireless broadband modem from Vodafone on F11 HOW TO CONNECT?
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM, L wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:09 AM, kalinix wrote: > >> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:09 +1100, L wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I plan to get a USB wireless Broadband modem from >> Vodafonehttp://www.vodafone.com.au/personal/mobilebroadband/mobile-broadband-prepaid.htm >> >> The deal seems attractive. any of you have this USB modem work on >> Fedora 11 via NM? >> >> I am happy to hear you experiences with Vodafone USB wireless modem. >> >> Y >> >> >> >> I do, and it works ok both from NM and cli (through wvdial). >> >> However there is also https://forge.betavine.net/ >> >> >> >> Could you show some steps? after plug this USB modem in, I got message > usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 > usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=12d1, idProduct=1001 > usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 > usb 2-1: Product: HUAWEI Mobile > usb 2-1: Manufacturer: ��� > usb 2-1: SerialNumber: ��� > usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > option 2-1:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected > usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0 > option 2-1:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected > usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1 > option 2-1:1.2: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected > usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB2 > usb-storage: probe of 2-1:1.3 failed with error -1 > > NM does not show any response. > That one is the Huawei E620 USB modem (grep -i huawei -A 5 /var/lib/misc/usb.ids) As root, you will need to run "wvdialconf" - this will create a "/etc/wvdial.conf" file. You will just need to update the "Phone", "Username" and "Password" entries. Here is how my "/etc/wvdial.conf" looks - [Dialer Defaults] Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Modem Type = Analog Modem Baud = 9600 New PPPD = yes Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 ISDN = 0 Phone = Password = xxx Username = Stupid Mode = On I had to put in the "Stupid Mode = On" line myself. The other lines were put in by `wvdialconf'. Note: I am using the Huawei EC1260 USB modem, so your "Init1" and "Init2" strings may come out different. I am using an older NM (Network-Manager) where dialup is broken, so can't help you there. Regards, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web Accessible User Directories
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Manish Kathuria wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any way to make the user home directories on a Linux system > accessible through a password protected web interface ? I am looking for > ways to make users access the data lying in their respective directories > through a web browser. A simple option is to run a ftp server and use the > FTP protocol through a web browser, which however, is the last choice. > > Alternatively, is there any application which can authenticate users and > make their designated directories (which may or may not be under home > directories) accessible through a web interface ? > > I would appreciate some suggestions or pointers. You could try out WebDAV. (Apached + mod_dav). I also got a few results for specialized file manager WebApps by doing a search for "web file manager". Regards, Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Any Recommendations for Fedora11 'N' Wireless PCI Cards
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Randy Gordey wrote: > I am really looking for success stories with your particular manufacturer's > card(s). But if you only speak chipsets thats fine too. Recognized under the > current Kernel without much tweeking is optimal. Think large company > standardization. I would give my thumbs up for Intel wireless - although, last I checked it required a binary blobs. My current wireless card works with Windows drivers using `ndiswrapper' (Atheros wireless chipset if you are curious) Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pseudo terminals
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:42 PM, devi wrote: >> Hi, >> I think , I have not explained it correctly, in the first mail. I >> mean [pedantic] Also, please continue with the thread that you start. [/pedantic] Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pseudo terminals
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:42 PM, devi wrote: > Hi, > I think , I have not explained it correctly, in the first mail. I mean > that > "echo "service httpd status" > /dev/pts/2", is executed in first > terminal(/dev/pts/1), and the output is redirected to the /dev/pts/2. > Here /dev/pts/2 is the terminal of another machine to which we are > connnected and is a virtual machine. > But the output directed here is a command, so what happens is that, > the output of the first terminal, is actually executed as a command in > the /dev/pts/2 terminal, because the output is redirected directly to > the terminal. > > And I know the pty of the first terminal, I got it by command "tty". > > Now, my requirement is that, after the command "service httpd status" is > executed on the /dev/pts/2. I want to redirect or get the output on the > first terminal(/dev/pts/1). Use `ssh' to accomplish what you are doing. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SELinux Exim Problem
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Right. IIRC, because some elements of the path may be symlinks or bind > mounts, statvfs will stat() the path argument, and then stat() each > filesystem in /proc/mounts. It will compare the st_dev elements of each > filesystem listed to the st_dev from the path in order to determine which fs > actually contains the path argument. > > The question I'd ask is why exim is using statvfs() instead of statfs(). >From statfs(2): CONFORMING TO Linux-specific. The Linux statfs() was inspired by the 4.4BSD one (but they do not use the same structure). NOTES The kernel has system calls statfs(), fstatfs(), statfs64(), and fstatfs64() to support this library call. Some systems only have , other systems also have , where the former includes the latter. So it seems including the former is the best choice. LSB has deprecated the library calls statfs() and fstatfs() and tells us to use statvfs(2) and fstatvfs(2) instead. So, using statvfs is the POSIX-ly right thing to do. I think this discussion should really be had with upstream regarding this problem. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SELinux Exim Problem
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:02 AM, John Horne wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 06:38 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >> Probably some api that exim is calling is looking at the mounted file >> systems which is causing it to look at /boot. >> >> I think we can allow this for now. >> > Okay, I've done some investigating of this and can see what is happening > now. > > Exim has 4 config options which check for disk space or inodes when a > message arrives. These are unset by default, but I had set one of them > ('check_spool_space'). > > Exim checks the space/inodes by calling statvfs, which in turn looks > at /proc/mounts for mounted partitions. It then checks the mounted > partitions. > > In my case I have 3 other partitions, and was receiving the same selinux > errors for those. I reset their selinux context to that of /usr (since > there is nothing of particular importance in those partitions). This > stopped selinux reporting about those partitions. > > However, I still get errors about /boot, and obviously cannot reset its > context. I removed the exim config option (mentioned above), but it > seems that exim will also check on available space if a sending mail > server sends a message and uses the SIZE option to the SMTP MAIL > command. (I tested this and it is correct.) There is no way to disable > this. > > So, the problem comes down to exim checking disk space/inodes to ensure > it can accept a message, and this is perfectly reasonable. To do this > the system checks the currently mounted partitions. Agreed. > However, and I don't > know why, selinux objects when exim checks the /boot partition. I > suspect an selinux boolean may be required to allow exim to look > at /boot. But, why check "/boot"? As far as I understood from the statvfs(2), it accepts a path to get the information. "/boot" is not something that Exim will use as a spool directory. Or am I missing something!? > (When I installed F11 I used ext4 for the root partition, so I had to > create a separate /boot partition using ext3.) > > > > John. > > -- > John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK > Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SELinux Exim Problem
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 09/07/2009 04:34 AM, Didar Hossain wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: >>> On F11 when exim attempts to retrieve mail from my ISP, I get the following: >> >> How are you pulling the mail from your ISP? >> >> >>> Summary: >>> SELinux is preventing exim (exim_t) "getattr" boot_t. >>> >>> Detailed Description: >>> SELinux denied access requested by exim. It is not expected that this >>> access is required by exim and this access may signal an intrusion >>> attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or >>> configuration of the application is causing it to require additional >>> access. >>> >>> Allowing Access: >>> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ >>> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can >>> disable SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is >>> not recommended. Please file a bug report >>> (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this >>> package. >>> >>> Additional Information: >>> Source Context system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0 >>> Target Context system_u:object_r:boot_t:s0 >>> Target Objects /boot [ dir ] >>> Source exim >>> Source Path /usr/sbin/exim >>> Port >>> Host flinux >>> Source RPM Packages exim-4.69-10.fc11 >>> Target RPM Packages filesystem-2.4.21-1.fc11 >>> Policy RPM selinux-policy-3.6.12-80.fc11 >>> Selinux Enabled True >>> Policy Type targeted >>> MLS Enabled True >>> Enforcing Mode Enforcing >>> Plugin Name catchall >>> Host Name flinux >>> Platform Linux flinux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i686.PAE >>> #1 >>> SMP Mon Aug 24 17:16:21 EDT 2009 i686 athlon >>> Alert Count 327 >>> First Seen Sun 12 Jul 2009 05:09:10 PM PDT >>> Last Seen Sat 05 Sep 2009 09:05:41 AM PDT >>> Local ID c330c7e2-7fd7-45ae-8ebb-8de1def6e145 >>> Line Numbers >>> >>> Raw Audit Messages >>> node=flinux type=AVC msg=audit(1252166741.77:28): avc: denied { >>> getattr } for pid=2279 comm="exim" path="/boot" dev=sda1 ino=2 >>> scontext=system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0 >>> tcontext=system_u:object_r:boot_t:s0 tclass=dir >>> >>> node=flinux type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1252166741.77:28): arch=4003 >>> syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfbe1292 a1=bfbe1688 a2=756ff4 a3=0 >>> items=0 ppid=1489 pid=2279 auid=4294967295 uid=93 gid=93 euid=93 >>> suid=93 fsuid=93 egid=93 sgid=93 fsgid=93 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 >>> comm="exim" exe="/usr/sbin/exim" subj=system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0 >>> key=(null) >>> >>> = >>> >>> Other information: >>> RPMs: >>> exim-4.69-10.fc11.i586 >>> selinux-policy-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch >>> selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch >>> >>> The mail does get through but I get an SELinux error for each message. >>> >>> I've looked for '/boot' in exim config files but came up empty. >>> >>> I installed F11 but kept my home directory which is on a different disk. >>> >>> Since I have not heard anyone else complaining about this, I figure >>> that it's my configuration. I just don't know where else to look. >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> -- >>> fedora-list mailing list >>> fedora-list@redhat.com >>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >>> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >>> >> > Probably some api that exim is calling is looking at the mounted file systems > which is causing it to look at /boot. Do you think we need a Bug filed for this? An MTA doing a "getattr" on /boot seems a little unnecessary to me. > I think we can allow this for now. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SELinux Exim Problem
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: > On F11 when exim attempts to retrieve mail from my ISP, I get the following: How are you pulling the mail from your ISP? > Summary: > SELinux is preventing exim (exim_t) "getattr" boot_t. > > Detailed Description: > SELinux denied access requested by exim. It is not expected that this > access is required by exim and this access may signal an intrusion > attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or > configuration of the application is causing it to require additional > access. > > Allowing Access: > You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ > (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can > disable SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is > not recommended. Please file a bug report > (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this > package. > > Additional Information: > Source Context system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0 > Target Context system_u:object_r:boot_t:s0 > Target Objects /boot [ dir ] > Source exim > Source Path /usr/sbin/exim > Port > Host flinux > Source RPM Packages exim-4.69-10.fc11 > Target RPM Packages filesystem-2.4.21-1.fc11 > Policy RPM selinux-policy-3.6.12-80.fc11 > Selinux Enabled True > Policy Type targeted > MLS Enabled True > Enforcing Mode Enforcing > Plugin Name catchall > Host Name flinux > Platform Linux flinux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i686.PAE #1 > SMP Mon Aug 24 17:16:21 EDT 2009 i686 athlon > Alert Count 327 > First Seen Sun 12 Jul 2009 05:09:10 PM PDT > Last Seen Sat 05 Sep 2009 09:05:41 AM PDT > Local ID c330c7e2-7fd7-45ae-8ebb-8de1def6e145 > Line Numbers > > Raw Audit Messages > node=flinux type=AVC msg=audit(1252166741.77:28): avc: denied { > getattr } for pid=2279 comm="exim" path="/boot" dev=sda1 ino=2 > scontext=system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:boot_t:s0 tclass=dir > > node=flinux type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1252166741.77:28): arch=4003 > syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfbe1292 a1=bfbe1688 a2=756ff4 a3=0 > items=0 ppid=1489 pid=2279 auid=4294967295 uid=93 gid=93 euid=93 > suid=93 fsuid=93 egid=93 sgid=93 fsgid=93 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 > comm="exim" exe="/usr/sbin/exim" subj=system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0 > key=(null) > > = > > Other information: > RPMs: > exim-4.69-10.fc11.i586 > selinux-policy-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch > selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch > > The mail does get through but I get an SELinux error for each message. > > I've looked for '/boot' in exim config files but came up empty. > > I installed F11 but kept my home directory which is on a different disk. > > Since I have not heard anyone else complaining about this, I figure > that it's my configuration. I just don't know where else to look. > > Frank > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Where is the torrent for the F11 netinst.iso
Hi, I could not find the torrents for the F11 "netinst.iso" anywhere on http://torrents.fedoraproject.org/ Trying to download the ISO images using plaing FTP/HTTP is impossible; I get 20 B/s and stalled/broken connections from my nearest mirror. Why are torrents not available for the netinst.iso images? Any specific reasons? Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Didar Hossain >>> wrote: >>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote: >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11, >>>>> which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password >>>>> through browser interface. >>>>> >>>>> Is there any web based utility through which users can change their >>>>> password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam >>>>> >>>>> I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd >>>>> (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system >>>>> password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only >>>>> smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change >>>>> which is giving error ?? >>>> >>>> I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB >>>> passwords in this case. >>>> >>>> Didar >>>> >>>> -- >>>> fedora-list mailing list >>>> fedora-list@redhat.com >>>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >>>> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >>>> >>> >>> But I don't know the tdbsam, can anybody help me out >>> >>> Arun >> >> I meant writing a PHP script as a wrapper around `smbpasswd' - you do >> not have to worry about manipulating the tdbsam file youself. If you >> want an example script then let me know. >> >> Didar >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >> > > Dear Didar, > > I am not an PHP expert, can you please help me, may be it would > helpful for lots of other people like me. I have sent you the script off-list; I do not have any place to host it on the net for the time being. You may publish it if you like. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> >>> I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11, >>> which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password >>> through browser interface. >>> >>> Is there any web based utility through which users can change their >>> password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam >>> >>> I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd >>> (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system >>> password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only >>> smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change >>> which is giving error ?? >> >> I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB >> passwords in this case. >> >> Didar >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >> > > But I don't know the tdbsam, can anybody help me out > > Arun I meant writing a PHP script as a wrapper around `smbpasswd' - you do not have to worry about manipulating the tdbsam file youself. If you want an example script then let me know. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote: > Dear All, > > I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11, > which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password > through browser interface. > > Is there any web based utility through which users can change their > password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam > > I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd > (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system > password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only > smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change > which is giving error ?? I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB passwords in this case. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to convert from mbox delivery to maildir?
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Neil Bird wrote: > > I had a problem in another thread in which it was suggested I use maildir > instead of mbox as a spool store. I've had a good old google around, and I > can't for the life of me find any one place that really tells me anything. > > Does anyone have any pointers? > > > For ref., I have a fetchmail -> sendmail -> procmail set up (although the > sendmail/procmail are pretty much the default install), which dump incoming > mail to /var/spool/mail/ [I have spamassassin in the equation as well, > with one proc recipe to dump spam into a sep. spool mbox]. > > I then use dovecot with IMAP/POP locally to get that mail into ThunderBird, > and also serve it up (that that's still in the spool) from squirrelmail. > > I plan to fully move all incoming mail accesses to IMAP, with users (well, > the family :) ) filing from the IMAP Inbox to local folders as and when, > with no POP fetching or auto copying frmo the IMAP folder into Local/Inbox. > For that, it'd be good to have a reliable mail store, which sounds like I > need to bin the spool area. > > How does 'maildir' fit into this? What manitains it? Where would > root's/other-local mail go - still to /var/spool? Dovecot supports Maildir natively, but, not Sendmail. Since, you are already using procmail, there should be no problem delivering to Maildir format. Here are a couple of links to help you understand more about this format - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir Also, you might find the `mb2md' perl script useful to convert your current Mbox mails to Maildir - http://www.gerg.ca/hacks/mb2md/ NOTE: I have used the above script before and it has worked for me, however, standard precautionary practice of taking a backup and performing a test deployment applies. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network guru please help: baffled by missing file
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > No, I've had this problem for several months. > I've a feeling it may date from the time > when I started using my Dell PowerEdge T105 as a server, > in place of an HP server which now lives in Italy. > > I guess if I don't find out what is wrong in a couple of days > I'll try installing Fedora-11 on this machine on a separate partition. > > The problem is more an intellectual one than a practical one, > as I have no problem when I use my local repository as yum baseurl . > > My server has internal IP address 192.168.1.2 , > but external address 86.43.71.228 . > But most people must have 2 addresses like this? > > It really seems as though fedoraproject tests my system in some way, > and the system fails the test. > Maybe it sees that Windows partition ... > > I see that I have no problem with the other CentOS repositories, eg > - > [...@helen tmp]$ wget http://linux.dell.com/repo/hardware/mirrors.pl > --16:40:49-- http://linux.dell.com/repo/hardware/mirrors.pl > Resolving linux.dell.com... 143.166.224.62 > Connecting to linux.dell.com|143.166.224.62|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: unspecified [text/plain] > Saving to: `mirrors.pl' > ... > 16:40:50 (3.96 MB/s) - `mirrors.pl' saved [54] > - This is what I get when I execute `wget' command - di...@didar-laptop:~$ wget -S -O- https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink --2009-07-18 21:17:00-- https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink Resolving mirrors.fedoraproject.org... 152.46.7.222, 209.132.176.120, 66.35.62.166, ... Connecting to mirrors.fedoraproject.org|152.46.7.222|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:47:01 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) Content-Length: 53 cache-control: no-cache AppTime: D=18458 AppServer: app1.fedora.phx.redhat.com Vary: Accept-Encoding Content-Type: text/plain X-Pad: avoid browser bug ProxyTime: D=168820 ProxyServer: proxy4.fedoraproject.org Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=500 Connection: Keep-Alive Length: 53 [text/plain] Saving to: `STDOUT' 0% [ ] 0 --.-K/s # either path=, or repo= and arch= must be specified 100%[==>] 53 --.-K/s in 0s 2009-07-18 21:17:01 (1.21 MB/s) - `-' saved [53/53] Also, when I lookup the IP addresses of mirrors.fedoraproject.org I get the following - di...@didar-laptop:~$ host mirrors.fedoraproject.org mirrors.fedoraproject.org is an alias for wildcard.fedoraproject.org. wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 152.46.7.222 wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 209.132.176.120 wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 66.35.62.166 wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 80.239.156.215 I do not see "209.132.176.122" in the above list. What does "host mirrors.fedoraproject.org" output on your end? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network guru please help: baffled by missing file
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: > Hi, > > It seems the specific server (209.132.176.122) is missing the file. > You could try replacing > > mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch > > ... with ... > > mirrorlist=https://66.35.62.166/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch > > *This is a temporary and ugly work-around* > > You should revert to the original when things get fixed. I will > forward the mail to the infrastructure list and see if someone can > check it. Will keep you updated. > > Didar > My bad, it seems it will not work with the direct IP address, the request needs to have mirrors.fedoraproject.org. So, please disregard my previous post - I eat crow! Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network guru please help: baffled by missing file
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > The mirrorlist entry in my Fedora-11 /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-update.repo > reads: > mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released- > f$releasever&arch=$basearch > > As far as I can see, this means that yum is looking for > the file metalink at mirrors.fedoraproject.org ? > > If I try "sudo yum update" I get: > --- > [...@elizabeth ~]$ sudo yum update > Loaded plugins: aliases, allowdowngrade, auto-update-debuginfo, > basearchonly, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, filter- > : data, keys, list-data, merge-conf, post-transaction-actions, > presto, priorities, protect-packages, > : protectbase, refresh-packagekit, refresh-updatesd, remove- > with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, security, show-leaves, > : tsflags, upgrade-helper, verify, versionlock > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile > Error: Cannot retrieve metalink for repository: updates. Please verify its > path and try again > --- > Adding --noplugins does not help: > --- > [...@elizabeth ~]$ sudo yum --noplugins update > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: > updates. Please verify its path and try again > --- > > Trying to get the file with wget: > --- > [...@elizabeth ~]$ wget https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink > --2009-07-17 13:04:41-- https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink > Resolving mirrors.fedoraproject.org... 209.132.176.122 > Connecting to mirrors.fedoraproject.org|209.132.176.122|:443... connected. > ERROR: certificate common name `fedoraproject.org' doesn't match requested > host name `mirrors.fedoraproject.org'. > To connect to mirrors.fedoraproject.org insecurely, use `--no-check- > certificate'. > Unable to establish SSL connection. > --- > Adding --no-check-certificate does not seem to help: > --- > [...@elizabeth ~]$ wget --no-check-certificate > https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink > --2009-07-17 13:06:22-- https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink > Resolving mirrors.fedoraproject.org... 209.132.176.122 > Connecting to mirrors.fedoraproject.org|209.132.176.122|:443... connected. > WARNING: certificate common name `fedoraproject.org' doesn't match requested > host name `mirrors.fedoraproject.org'. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found > 2009-07-17 13:06:23 ERROR 404: Not Found. > --- > > When I look at the http traffic on my server with wireshark > the file-request seems to be properly sent, > but the file is not found. > > The symptoms seem to me (no http expert) to suggest > that there is some condition for seeing this file > that my system is not fulfilling. > > Any and all suggestions gratefully received. > > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > Hi, It seems the specific server (209.132.176.122) is missing the file. You could try replacing mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch ... with ... mirrorlist=https://66.35.62.166/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch *This is a temporary and ugly work-around* You should revert to the original when things get fixed. I will forward the mail to the infrastructure list and see if someone can check it. Will keep you updated. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is there a gnome or KDE or Xorg version of wall for gui
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Leslie Satenstein > wrote: >> From what I note, wall is geared to terminals that function in ascii mode. >> >> Is there a wall command for Gnome, KDE, or Xorg, so that I can alert a gui >> user about some event? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenity > http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/259/a-complete-zenity-dialog-examples-1/ > > FC AFAIK there is no `wall' equivalent for the X Window environment. The `wall' command writes messages to the "tty" terminals, whereas X window uses a different mechanism. You will need to write your own tool to do this. A basic idea can be to use the D-Bus to send notification/message to a Gnome or KDE applet specifically created for this purpose. Hmmm, a good project to do :-) Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines