Re: A CPU monitor

[Jay Mistry]

> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Reid Rivenburgh  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Jay Mistry  wrote:
>> Conky is highly customisable as well, in addition to using less PC resources:
>>
>> http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html
>> http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/create-a-custum-conky-setup/
>
> Do you know if there's any way to integrate conky
> into a gnome panel?  That would be ideal.  I guess I could probably
> fiddle with the height of the panel and just display conky above or
> below the panel.
>
> Thanks,
> Reid

Not that I know of since Conky basically runs off the desktop. I have
Conky running from a custom ~/.conkyrc file on the desktop and use the
'Workspace Switcher' applet to view it (Note that the 'Show Desktop'
applet won't work as it minimizes the conky display as well), you can
have a look at this thread from Ubuntu Forums:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=.conkyrc

Has a number of .conkyrc files for customized Conky's, you may find
one to suit your needs. My current ~/.conkyrc is a modified one from
that thread.


Jay

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Re: A CPU monitor

[Jay Mistry]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
   Dallas B. Followill on 09/30/2009 09:08 AM wrote:   <
>> PS -
>> GNOME System Monitor _should not_ consume that much of CPU usage, what
>> CPU & how much RAM do you have ?

You got he name / email header wrong.


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Re: A CPU monitor

[Jay Mistry]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> in Gnome.
>
> The gnome system monitor can itself eat up 25% of one of my CPUs.
>
> So what are the alternatives to seeing CPU usage?
>

Other options are:

- You can add h/w monitoring applets to your panel(s) [Image 1].
- gdesklets: http://www.gdesklets.de/

PS -
GNOME System Monitor _should not_ consume that much of CPU usage, what
CPU & how much RAM do you have ?

Jay

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Re: A CPU monitor

[Jay Mistry]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:
> On 09/30/2009 10:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> in Gnome.
>>
>> The gnome system monitor can itself eat up 25% of one of my CPUs.
>>
>> So what are the alternatives to seeing CPU usage?
>
> Well there is plain old top and other frontends like htop. I use conky
> as well.
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=801

Conky is highly customisable as well, in addition to using less PC resources:

http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html
http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/create-a-custum-conky-setup/

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Re: combining image files into a pdf

[Jay Mistry]

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:44 AM, David Timms  wrote:
> Hi, I have image files of type:
> - png
> - tif  (b/w) - fax like
> - jpg
> that were produced by my scanner, during scan of a document.
>
> I've tried a few ways to achieve this, with limited results:
> - gscan2pdf: all png pages have a strong purple tint.
> - tiff2pdf: works for the tiff files
> - pdfedit: needs a pdf to start with, so not much help
> - pdf chain: uses pdftk to do manipulations; generates 0 byte pdf, output
> dialog seems to hang.
> - oopresentation/draw: doesn't like the tif files.
> and a few attempts with command line tools.
>
> I haven't found a way to (easily) combine those into a pdf. I would like to
> know if Fedora has such software already packaged, or another linux app that
> could perform this ?
>
> DaveT.

xsane can do this- you have to start (create) a multi-page project
(it's there in the menus somewhere). After you are finished scanning
all the pages (it will save all the individual images in a
'multipageproject' folder in your ~/Documents (default)), there is
then an option to combine all of them into a PDF.

An alternate is 'pdfsam'.

Jay

PS:
I have found gscan2pdf the easiest & fastest method, and haven't seen
any kind of tint/other artefact. Maybe your sacnner needs to be
re-calibrated or you may have chosen non-default options in
colour/brightness/contrast tabs.

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Re: Announcing Fedora 12 Alpha

[Jay Mistry]

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> William John Murray wrote:
>> Thanks to all those working on this...
>>
>> But the Live media the x86_64 direct download says 'forbidden',
>> while the other 3 live-media links all work. However I cannot use
>> bittorrent here
>
> Give it a little time.  Not all of the mirrors have synced since the
> bit was flipped to open the release.
>
> Alternately, you could try some of the other mirrors listed at
> http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/12-Alpha/

Also, what's the fastest way (http / ftp) to download the DVD ISO from
the mirrors; I am on a cable connection @ 256 kbps (not particularly
fast, would take about 30 + hours at that speed to get the full 4 GB
DVD ISO).

Thanks,

Jay

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Re: Announcing Fedora 12 Alpha

[Jay Mistry]

>> Fedora 12 "Constantine" Alpha release is available! What's next for the
>> free operating system that shows off the best new technology of
>> tomorrow? You can see the future now at:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease
>>
>> What's an Alpha release? The Alpha release contains all the features of
>> Fedora 12 in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by
>> the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When these bugs
>> are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta release is
>> code-complete, and bears a very strong resemblance to the third and
>> final release. The final release of Fedora 12 is due in November.


What is the mail list where Fedora Project new release announcements
are made; also for GNOME & KDE releases for Fedora ?

I am presently subscribed only to the main Fedora list (i.e. this one:
fedora-list@redhat.com), and woefully out of date on new release info.

Thanks,

Jay

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Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's

[Jay Mistry]

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Suvayu Ali

> wrote:

> On Saturday 15 August 2009 12:35 PM, Jay Mistry wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:32:48 +0530,
>>
>>>  Jay Mistry  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this:
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to have a local cache/ "repository" of all
>>>> 1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and
>>>> 2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit),
>>>>
>>> e.g.
>>>
>>>> Opera, Adobe Reader, etc.
>>>> so that I do not have to download all those again (800 MB + D/L)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure. Just put the rpms of interest in a directory, run createrepo on the
>>> directory and set up an appropriate repo description in
>>> /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo for some value of *.
>>>
>>> For myself I usually mirror the relevant arch parts of updates and
>>> updates-testing and only put a few special things in a local repo.
>>>
>>
>>
>> As an extension of this: is it possible to upgrade a Fedora 10 install to
>> Fedora 11, by using the Fedora 11 DVD as a local repository ? This would
>> save me (and also lot of other people who do not have fast Internet
>> connections and/or with time-capped Internet subscriptions), a lot of
>> bandwidth and time (and $$).
>>
>>
> This thread might be useful for creating a local repo
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/thread.html#01934
>

Thanks for pointing it out. I will try out the instructions there and also
at these 2 links later on in the week,

http://www.labtestproject.com/using_linux/setup_to_install_software_package_from_fedora_10_dvd
http://www.labtestproject.com/using_linux/install_software_from_fedora_installation_dvd

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Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's

[Jay Mistry]

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:32:48 +0530,
>  Jay Mistry  wrote:
> > I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this:
> >
> > Is it possible to have a local cache/ "repository" of all
> > 1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and
> > 2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit),
> e.g.
> > Opera, Adobe Reader, etc.
> > so that I do not have to download all those again (800 MB + D/L)
>
> Sure. Just put the rpms of interest in a directory, run createrepo on the
> directory and set up an appropriate repo description in
> /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo for some value of *.
>
> For myself I usually mirror the relevant arch parts of updates and
> updates-testing and only put a few special things in a local repo.


As an extension of this: is it possible to upgrade a Fedora 10 install to
Fedora 11, by using the Fedora 11 DVD as a local repository ? This would
save me (and also lot of other people who do not have fast Internet
connections and/or with time-capped Internet subscriptions), a lot of
bandwidth and time (and $$).

(As a 'by the by', I also prefer the Fedora 10 theme & artwork ('Solar'
theme) over Fedora 11's).

Thanks,

Jay

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Re: Partitioning tools and ext4?

[Jay Mistry]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Jim  wrote:

> On 08/12/2009 12:44 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know which partitioning tools will play nice with ext4 in F11?
>>
>> eg fdisk, parted, qtparted etc
>>
>> It would be nice to have a list of those tools that can be trusted to
>> change
>> partitions for F11 and for F12 upcoming.  I guess there is always
>> PartedMagic livecd/liveusb that presumably play nice with ext4 ?
>>
>>
> gparted.
> I have use gparted from a boot iso and made my partitions and then use f11
> and customise  and edit and specified the label  //home  swap and had no
> problems.
>

Parted Magic has gparted + a lot of other utilities,
http://partedmagic.com/programs.html.

Jay

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Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's

[Jay Mistry]

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:32:48 +0530,
>  Jay Mistry  wrote:
> > I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this:
> >
> > Is it possible to have a local cache/ "repository" of all
> > 1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and
> > 2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit),
> e.g.
> > Opera, Adobe Reader, etc.
> > so that I do not have to download all those again (800 MB + D/L)
>
> Sure. Just put the rpms of interest in a directory, run createrepo on the
> directory and set up an appropriate repo description in
> /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo for some value of *.
>
> For myself I usually mirror the relevant arch parts of updates and
> updates-testing and only put a few special things in a local repo.
>

Thanks for the reply.

Are they to be copied from /var/cache/yum to the dir that is to be used as
local repo ? On my PC (this is a non-networked desktop PC), this directory
has:
/fedora/packages/ & /updates/packages - both newly-created after I started
the Update applet.

I Googled for this for Fedora Linux, but mostly the results refer to
networked PC's.

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Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's

[Jay Mistry]

I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this:

Is it possible to have a local cache/ "repository" of all
1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and
2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit), e.g.
Opera, Adobe Reader, etc.
so that I do not have to download all those again (800 MB + D/L)

This would be similar to the 'aptonCD' package in Ubuntu (
http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/)

APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one
> or more CDs or DVDs (you choose the type of media) with all of the packages
> you've downloaded via APT-GET or APTITUDE, creating a removable repository
> that you can use on other computers.
> APTonCD will also allow you to automatically create media with all of your
> .deb packages located in one specific repository, so that you can install
> them into your computers without the need for an internet connection.


Thanks,

Jay

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Re: Conversion of ext4 to ext3 file system ?

[Jay Mistry]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 21:33 +0530, Jay Mistry wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> >  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 12:39 +0530, Jay Mistry wrote:
> > > I would like to convert / & /home partitions that are ext4
> > to ext3.
> > > Can this be done without loss of data ?
> >
> >
> >
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11#What_about_backward.2Fforward_compatibility.3F
> >
> > poc
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ok, backward-incompatible.
>
> Not exactly. It depends on whether or not you enabled extents when using it
> as ext4.
>
> poc
>
>
I am not that technically proficient. The ext4 is for Ubuntu 9.04; Fedora 10
has ext3 and used to give console error messages about being unable to
umount the ext4 partitions during shutdown. I had to do a reset as the PC
stalled at that point.

Presently, I have added the 'noauto' option to Fedora 10's fstab file so
that the ext4 partitions are not mounted. This stopped the error messages
and enabled proper shutdown.

Jay

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Re: Conversion of ext4 to ext3 file system ?

[Jay Mistry]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Rahul Sundaram
wrote:

> On 08/13/2009 09:33 PM, Jay Mistry wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> > mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 12:39 +0530, Jay Mistry wrote:
> > > I would like to convert / & /home partitions that are ext4 to ext3.
> > > Can this be done without loss of data ?
> >
> >
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11#What_about_backward.2Fforward_compatibility.3F
> >
> > poc
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Ok, backward-incompatible.
> >
> > Thanks,
>
> In some ways. You can mount a Ext3 partition as Ext4 and it will
> recognize and work with it just fine.
>
> Rahul
>

That would be the opposite of what I want to do. I have ext4 partitions
(with data) that I would like to permanently convert to ext3 (without data
loss), such as can be done from FAT32 to NTFS.

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Re: Conversion of ext4 to ext3 file system ?

[Jay Mistry]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 12:39 +0530, Jay Mistry wrote:
> > I would like to convert / & /home partitions that are ext4 to ext3.
> > Can this be done without loss of data ?
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11#What_about_backward.2Fforward_compatibility.3F
>
> poc
>
> --
>

Ok, backward-incompatible.

Thanks,

Jay

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Conversion of ext4 to ext3 file system ?

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I would like to convert / & /home partitions that are ext4 to ext3. Can this
be done without loss of data ?

Thanks,

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Access to ext4 & FAT32 partitions (Fedora 10)

[Jay Mistry]

On a new install of Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC, how can one enable
access to Windows XP (FAT32) and Ubuntu (ext4) partitions from within
Fedora (using GNOME 2.24 desktop)?
The Linux installs (Fedora 10 and Ubuntu 9.04, both i386) are on a
separate HD than Windows, and I boot into them from the NT bootloader.

I was able to access (mount) the NTFS partitions of Windows XP after
installing ntfs-3g and ntfs-config.

Thanks,

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Re: GRUB question

[Jay Mistry]

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

>  Everything is now copied over but I am
> still in doubt of the new drive's MBR sector.
>
> Question: using gparted, does it also include
> the boot sector MBR when copying over the
> first partition or do I have manually copy the
> boot sector over or to apply the grub-install?
>
> If so, what is the best way to ensure that the
> MBR is on the new drive?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan

For a home PC Clonezilla Live CD (http://www.clonezilla.org/) can be
used; there are options to backup MBR for an active/boot partition,
which I think is saved as a separate file in the saved image
directory.

Jay


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Re: Smolt Error

[Jay Mistry]

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:

> Jay Mistry wrote:

>> I get the following Errors when I run Smolt -
>
>> Is there a place to file Bugzilla for the above, if needed ?
>
> Yes in http://bugzilla.redhat.com
>
> Rahul
>

This error was on running Smolt on openSUSE 11.1. Prior to using KDE
4.2,  there was no problem in Smolt sending the data to the Smolt
server. However, after recent updates (to KDE 4.2.1 and Linux Kernel
update), I have been getting this error. The Smolt GUI also freezes
when I try to send the h/w info thro' GUI.

Since it is on openSUSE 11.1 that I am getting the error (have not yet
tried running Smolt on Fedora 10), will it be more appropriate to post
it to Novell Bugzilla?

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Smolt Error

[Jay Mistry]

I get the following Errors when I run Smolt -

Send this information to the Smolt server? (y/n) y
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/smoltSendProfile", line 175, in 
> timeout=opts.timeout)
>   File "/usr/share/smolt/client/smolt.py", line 421, in send
> token = grabber.urlopen(urljoin(smoonURL + "/",
> '/tokens/token_json?uuid=%s' % self.host.UUID, False))
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 887,
> in urlopen
> return self._retry(opts, retryfunc, url)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 848,
> in _retry
> r = apply(func, (opts,) + args, {})
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 886,
> in retryfunc
> return URLGrabberFileObject(url, filename=None, opts=opts)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 1004,
> in __init__
> self._do_open()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 1069,
> in _do_open
> opener = self._get_opener()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 1060,
> in _get_opener
> self._opener = CachedOpenerDirector(ssl_factory, *handlers)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 1315,
> in CachedOpenerDirector
> opener = ssl_factory.create_opener(*handlers)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/sslfactory.py", line
> 63, in create_opener
> return m2urllib2.build_opener(self.ssl_context, *handlers)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/M2Crypto/m2urllib2.py", line 112,
> in build_opener
> if inspect.isclass(check):
> NameError: global name 'inspect' is not defined



Is there a place to file Bugzilla for the above, if needed ?


PS: Complete console output is here:http://pastebin.com/m1b8f1e5

Thanks,

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Re: Automounting Windows Partitions

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Craig Preston  wrote:
> On my F10 box, it automatically mounts my Windows partitions as well. I
> would like to change it, so that one of the partitions isn't mounted at all,
> and the other is only in read only. I thought this was set in the fstab
> file, but I can't see it. Where can I change the automount settings.
>
> Cheers

ntfs-config may help.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ntfs-config.

PS:
Requires ntfs-3g
Uncheck 'Automount Extrenal Drives" (ie do not auto-mount external USB
drives using this)

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Steve Searle  wrote:
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
>
> Steve

They also have a "Linux Starter pack" (Beginner's guide to setting-up
& using Ubuntu Linux, 130 pg PDF) for download-
http://www.tuxradar.com/linuxstarterpack, at the companion website
http://www.tuxradar.com/. That one does not have a d/l time limit.

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Partition imaging program(s), for Linux (ext3 FS)

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I am an old Norton Ghost 2003 user & use a NG 2003 DOS Boot CD to
backup & restore NTFS <--> partitions on Windows system (dual-boot
Linux & Windows XP Prof).

I have not used Ghost for ext3 partition image backup, though have
been using it regularly for NTFS --> NTFS (Windows) partition backup,
with good results.

For Linux, I have tried partimage, but that will not image an ext3 -->
NTFS partition (it can save the ext3 partn. image to NTFS partition, but
from some posts at the partimage Forums, it seems there are problems
in restoring the image to ext3, if the image is saved to an NTFS
partition).

Are there any other programs (other than Norton Ghost & partimage)
that can image a Linux partition to NTFS) _and restore_ from image
properly ? Most of the free space on my HD's is on NTFS partitions.

Thanks,

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Re: SAS version for Linux ?

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Marc Schwartz
 wrote:
> "Pittigher, Raymond  - CS"  writes:
>
>> Yes there is. SAS (www.sas.com) and the S (www.insightful.com) along
>> with open source R can be found on Linux.
>
> Insightful was purchased by Tibco/Spotfire last year, with many of the
> key tech support staff leaving the company. Bill Dunlap is about the
> only familiar name left there.
>
> There are some doubts as to the future of S-Plus as a stand alone
> product versus becoming an analytic engine for some yet to be announced
> application server. Such is the rumor mill...
>
> The user base of S-Plus has deteriorated substantially over the years,
> in large measure due to R and Insightful's own mis-steps. There was a
> discussion last month on the r-help list subsequent to a recent NY Times
> article that covered R. As a result, I posted some analyses of trends in
> the posting volume on the S-Plus, R and SAS primary help e-mail
> lists. That post is here if anyone is interested:
>
>  https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2009-January/184196.html
>
> There are PDF files with the relevant plots as attachments to the
> post. Caution is urged in interpreting the data as representing a
> possible figure for the size of the user base, as there are other fora
> (including phone support) for SAS and S-Plus as commercial products. In
> addition, over the past several years, some level of the traffic on
> r-help, despite the notable growth, has moved to specialty lists for R
> covering topics that are OS specific (Fedora, Debian, OSX) and subject
> matter specific (finance, databases, mixed models, genetics, etc.).
>
> Also, there are at least 3 companies that have announced commercially
> supported versions of R, as a sign of R's growth and maturity. These
> would be to R, what RH is to Fedora. I won't reference them here, as I
> have no association with them. Google searches can locate them. If one
> needs a commercial version of R, much as one might want RHEL in lieu of
> Fedora, these companies might provide an option for you.
>
> HTH,
>
> Marc Schwartz
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Thank you, all for your answers.

I was looking for the Statistical Analysis Software (SAS) for Linux.
Their website is difficult to navigate, especially for a newbie
single-user, and I don't think it would be worth the while putting in
a 'Call Request'  for my needs (single-PC, home user, student) ) - I
dual-boot Win XP Prof with openSUSE 11.1 on my home PC; a few months
ago it was only Win XP Prof. After installing Linux, I find I am using
Linux much more than Windows, for a variety of reasons that can be
found at most sites espousing GNU/Linux, and am keen to learn Linux
and Programming Languages (later), (I have a medical background).

SAS was the default software provided by the Dept/School IT Dept
(volume-licensed to the School of Public Health) to Graduate students
in the MPH (Master's in Public Health program...will not mention which
School/Univ), where I was enrolled till a few months back- but had to
withdraw mid-way due to health and domestic reasons. In the meantime
(and even while in the MPH program), I was interested in appearing for
the SAS/BASE Exam as a Professional Certification. Now, as I have some
free time, I thought I might sit for the Exam and thought of
installing SAS on oS 11.1 Linux; hence the question (also it would
have *wowed* some of my Professors then, looking at the Platform -not
being Windows XP, but on "Kernel Linux 2.6.27.7-9-pae" (I suppose that
is what it would say in 'proc contents' - students needed to submit a
copy of the SAS Program syntax with their Computer Homework). As such,
quite a few MPH students found it difficult initially to install/
configure SAS on even their _Windows_ PC's (laptops) - none had Linux
and there was no Linux version of SAS 9.1.3 available at the Computer
Labs, AFAIK.

Well, I guess the bottom-line is that SAS can't (for all practical
purposes for a home user like me, who can't shell out the $$$), be
installed on Linux oS 11.1 at the moment. Besides, officially at
least, oS 11.1 is not supported. So, if I need to practice for the
SAS/ BASE Exam, it will have to be on Windows.

Would like to explore the FOSS alternatives, particularly 'R' (though
I think they R lacks the fancy add-ons such as ODS that SAS has; and
has a steeper learning curve). As I recall there was a Course in
Statistics where the Professor used 'R' entirely, instead of the
default SAS.

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SAS version for Linux ?

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Is there a SAS (Statistical Analysis System) version available for Linux ?

Thanks,

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

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>> > Linux bloat continues unabated.
>>
>> 
>> I think...
>>
>> - that you would have to have kde-pim package installed to bloat here
>>
>> - agreed on bloat but considering that my Acer Aspire One is 10 Gb
>> Windows installation and 5 Gb Fedora 10 and I have a lot more 'stuff'
>> installed in Fedora.
>>
> Agreed.  My other laptop has to dual-boot with XP.  However, I only require it
> for one application.  I partitioned it with 8GB for XP system (no data) and to
> my surprise the most basic install filled it to danger point.  I could
> certainly run a modern linux distro, with more applications, in the same
> space.
>
> More importantly, in linux, if you think something does install too much, you
> do have a choice.
>
> Anne

Looking at KDE 4.2, which seems to have sacrificed functionality for
good looks & an enhanced (but difficult to navigate & configure
interface), it seems a part of Linux seems to be moving the Windows
way (re: Vista's complex operation, non-intuitive functions & the
'aero' interface) ... choice in Linux seems to be going the Redmond
way (probably an overstatement, but now may be a good time for a
check).

Hope the next OO.org will not present us a telly-tubby look with a 'ribbon'.

Jay

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Re: collective nouns (was: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!)

[Jay Mistry]

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Seann Clark  wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:57 +, Ian Malone wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'.
>>>
>>
>> Mad hatters?  ;-)
>
> That makes me wonder, what group would be the March Hare?


As a slight  , Fedora (in addition to the hat-connection), is
also the name of a Billy Wilder-directed film, loosely based on the
life of enigmatic Swedish-born, American actress, Greta Garbo
(http://www.garboforever.com/Unrealized-10.htm#Fedora).

Jay

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Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!

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> Speaking about incompatibility, isn't the only guarantee is that a
> kernel at the same level, regardless of distribution, will function exactly
> the same?! If you want to move from, say, KDE3 to KDE4 you have to upgrade
> your system because drivers and libraries are hardly ever forward
> compatible.  If you want to move from the ext3 to the ext4 file system you
> must upgrade your system?!
>
> So, what this person is saying is that - I'm going to stop using Fedora
> because it's constantly moving forward and I want to live in the past!
>
> Thanks,
> Gene Poole

There may be a point there, considering that Fedora 10 will not have
KDE 3.5.x and the instability of KDE 4.2 (most related to
plasmoid/plasma component). Many users of KDE would like to work with
KDE 3.5.x, until the 4.2 release becomes more stable/mature.

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Re: KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10

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On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 09:46 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> > You'll have to just get used to KDE 4.
>>
>> No he won't, unless he chooses to.  There are lots of alternatives out
>> there -- GNOME and XFCE on Fedora, other distributions, even other
>> operating systems.
>>
>> Believe it or not, KDE 4 (including 4.2) simply doesn't work well for
>> some people.  As just one example, right-clicking on the desktop in my
>> second display causes the pop-up menu to appear on the first display.
>> Are you seriously claiming that's acceptable for day-to-day productive
>> use?

Currently I use KDE 3.5 in openSUSE 11.1. I wanted to try out Fedora
10 (to add on to oS 11.1), but am not sure whether to proceed, as the
KDE 4.2 (new install/upgrade) crashed in openSUSE 11.1. Nearly as soon
as I logged in, there was an error msg saying 'The Plasma Desktop has
crashed' and all desktop icons disappeared & on trying to Login with
KDE 4.2, there is an Error Message 'Could not start kdeinit4. Check
your installation'.

openSUSE has other Desktops that can also be installed & so I am
presently using GNOME and KDE 3.5 in oS 11.1.

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KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10

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Is there a way to install KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10, and also keep KDE 4.2/
or with removal of KDE 4.2 ?

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Import Firefox profile from Windows to Linux

[Jay Mistry]

Is it possible to import the Firefox profile folder (with extensions,
add-ons, preferences, etc) from a Windows install onto Fedora (FC 9),
without any loss of function?

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Re: Fedora 9 install method, when Graphics Card / LCD not detected

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> Welcome to Fedora!
>
> Login to the terminal as root.
>
> Run system-config-display --reconfig
>
> This should walk you through the display setup again.
>
> You may need the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia website for optimal graphics
setup.

Hi,

I have downloaded the nVidia drivers (as a file with the .run extension,
i.e. *NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run*, from
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.12.html) and have put
them on a CD. I can put them on an ext3 partition that I use as 'Data
Storage' (done from the Parted Magic 3 Live Bootable CD, that has gparted
also) or can also put them on a USB Disk.

How to proceed after that ? (I guess it will involve typing some commands
from RL 3; but am *unsure of the exact cmds to type & how to proceed
thereafter*. (I can get to the grub boot menu, but after that it's a
no-show).

Thanks,

Jay

>
> Good Luck!
>
> Steve
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Fedora 9 install method, when Graphics Card / LCD not detected

[Jay Mistry]

Is there a method to install FC 9 when the Graphics Card (nVidia 8400 GS)
&/or LCD Monitor (17" LG 177WSB, with native res of 1440 X 900) is not
supported?
After installing from the i386 DVD, I get a blank screen & don't know how to
proceed (am *new to Linux & FC9*).

Mainboard is the Gigabyte GA-73VM-S2 (with nVidia 610i chipset), if this
helps.

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FC9 install, (?) Mainboard & Graphics Card Driver problem

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I am having a problem with FC 9 *(Fedora Core 9)* install.

*For FC9 install*:

Tried the install method described in this
thread
(reply # 5
& # 6  :
Windows & FC9 Linux on separate partitions, with option to choose which OS
to boot through the BIOS).* [To do this, I disconnected the Windows HD (as
there are 2 Hard Disks: 250 GB IDE with Win XP Pro & 500 GB SATA on first
partition of which I installed Linux, after disconnecting the 250 GB IDE
(Windows) drive) ].*
The FC9 install (done with a boot FC9 DVD) itself went smoothly. After
re-booting, I got the Fedora OS selector screen and booted into that, but
then there was a *display problem* (use a 17" LG Flatron L177WSB Monitor)
and the screen went blank with Error Message (provided by LCD firmware)
stating: 'Refresh rate out of range" with a Vertical Refresh Rate displayed
of 77.5 MHz). So, I re-booted, went into BIOS and chose the on-board VGA as
the graphics display.
But got the same Error Message ("Out of range" or something similar) with
the on-board display selected.

*(System Hardware Specs are at the end of this post).*

What could be wrong? I think Fedora 9 may not have got the drivers
on-board/during install for the Graphics Card or the Motherboard/On-board
VGA. How can one troubleshoot this? Don't know which drivers to get & how to
install them, as Fedora simply won't boot up & there is no Internet
connection available in Linux.

Is there a way to *install the drivers after writing them to CD* (this
is*best option
* for me as I have a working net connection in Windows & can d/l & burn the
drivers to CD from there). If yes, what drivers to get & how to install from
CD?

*Hardware details*:
CPU: Pent 4 640 (3.20 GHz) (Socket 775LGA)

Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-73VM-S2
Mainboard
(nForce 610i chipset)

PCI-E Graphics Card: XFX GeForce
8400GS
(512 MB)

On-board Graphics: GeForce 7050 (specs as in Mainboard link above)

RAM (Memory): 2 GB DDR2 at 667 MHz

OS (on 250 GB IDE (Master) HDD): Win XP Prof SP3


Guidance greatly appreciated.

*PS*:

Also have the install DVD for FC 8 (Fedora 8); is that likely to install
properly with above hardware?
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FC9 install, ? Mainboard & Graphics Card Driver problem

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I am having a problem with FC 9 *(Fedora Core 9)* install. The original
thread is here: link .
(reply no. 7).

*For FC9 install*:

Tried the install method described in this
thread
(reply # 5
& # 6  :
Windows & FC9 Linux on separate partitions, with option to choose which OS
to boot through the BIOS).* [To do this, I disconnected the Windows HD (as I
have 2 Hard Disks: 250 GB IDE with Win XP Pro & 500 GB SATA on first
partition of which I installed Linux, after disconnecting the 250 GB IDE
(Windows) drive) ].*
The FC9 install (done with a boot FC9 DVD) itself went smoothly. After
re-booting, I got the Fedora OS selector screen and booted into that, but
then there was a *display problem* (use a 17" LG Flatron L177WSB Monitor)
and the screen went blank with Error Message (provided by LCD firmware)
stating: 'Refresh rate out of range" with a Vertical Refresh Rate displayed
of 77.5 MHz). So, I re-booted, went into BIOS and chose the on-board VGA as
the graphics display.
But got the same Error Message ("Out of range" or something similar) with
the on-board display selected.

*(System Hardware Specs are at the end of this post).*

What could be wrong? I think Fedora 9 would not have got the drivers
on-board/during install for the Graphics Card or the Motherboard/On-board
VGA. How can one troubleshoot this? Don't know which drivers to get & how to
install them, esp as Fedora simply won't boot up & there is no Internet
connection available in Linux.

*Hardware details*:
CPU: Pent 4 640 (3.20 GHz) (Socket 775LGA)

Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-73VM-S2
Mainboard
(nForce 610i chipset)

PCI-E Graphics Card: XFX GeForce
8400GS
(512 MB)

On-board Graphics: GeForce 7050 (specs as in Mainboard link above)

RAM (Memory): 2 GB DDR2 at 667 MHz

OS (on 250 GB IDE (Master) HDD): Win XP Prof SP3


Guidance greatly appreciated.
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