Outage notification - Fedora mailing list migration - Sat-Sun Jan 9-10, 2010
Outage Notification - 2009-01-09 - 2009-01-10 There will be an outage starting at 2009-01-09, which will last approximately 48 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-01-09 HH:MM UTC' Affected Services: Mailing Lists Unaffected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Database DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mirror System Torrent Translation Services Websites Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1912 Reason for Outage: Migrate mailing lists from RHT infrastructure to Fedora infrastructure. Note that this outage will not be for the entire 48 hours, however, there will be times when mailing list traffic will be queued rather than immediately delivered. This will occur as large lists are migrated. We will attempt to minimize any impact. Note that as the mailing lists are being renamed as well, therefore, the List-ID headers will change. You can find further information about the changes at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00011.html Thanks for your patience while we undertake this massive migration effort. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Re: Goals for F13?
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: What does everyone else have? Getting hosted's load average to below 100 :) (I accidentally mistyped hosted as hosed, a Freudian slip as to the current state of affairs? :) ) I think that gitweb-caching will help a lot here, I just need to ping warthog9 and get him sponsored, packages built and in epel-testing. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Review Board
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: Anyone out there with experience and are inclined to get this in hosted? Is this something that would be better on one of our collab servers or does it actually have to integrate with hosted somehow? No experience but AIUI it integrates somehow w/mailman. I share your concerns about load. The party that wanted it just got it packaged a few days ago for Fedora, and has a build working on RHEL5 ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Goals for F13?
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: I agree, I was under the impression that upstream wasn't interested in the new patches. Probably because I wasn't paying attention and assumed it :) Well they haven't been interested for quite some time, I think they've finally come to realize that gitweb as is is crap. But John made an interesting point to me at FUDCon that might be disincentive for upstream to accept this: there are probably 20 people in the world that need this code, and I know 15 of them :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: List migration and fedora-india list
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: We can do what? Oops. somehow quoted an entirely irrelevant portion of your message :) We can call the list whatever you like. indian-community sounds as good as any to me. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Fedora mailing list migration
Over the last several years, there has been some contention about having Fedora mailing lists hosted on Red Hat infrastructure. As previously announced[1], there was an effort to migrate the mailing lists onto Fedora infrastructure, however, due to a variety of factors, it has been very much delayed. I'm pleased to announce that we've selected a date(s) for this migration project, and are ready to implement it. On January 9 and 10, 2010, all Fedora related mailing lists that are currently hosted at redhat.com will be migrated to lists.fedoraproject.org. Red Hat has agreed to forward the mail for the old list name to the new list names, and continue hosting the archives at their current location. Additionally, all archives will be copied over to the new location as well. All new archives will only be present at the new location. We've decided to do this in one fell swoop rather than gradually as originally planned because we feel it to be in the interest of our community to have much pain at one point, rather than small amounts of pain spread out over a long period of time. All of your mail filters that rely on the List-ID header will break on these days, and adjustments on your part will be required. We apologize for the inconvenience. For your convenience, I've posted a mapping of old list names to new list names [2] as well as a PDF version[3] After the migration, you are welcome to file tickets for new mailing list creation and problems with old ones in the Fedora Infrastructure trac instance[4], or stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net. Thanks for your time, Your fearless mailman admins (Jon Stanley and Dennis Gilmore) [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-January/msg00012.html [2] http://jstanley.fedorapeople.org/mlmigration.ods [3] http://jstanley.fedorapeople.org/mlmigration.pdf [4] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Re: Major dns issues
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: FWIW its working from home, my dedicated box and my box in .au two of those I run my own resolvers and not my isps. Oh, the joys of working for a tier1 ISP :) I just did a round the world trip on our resolvers (New York, DC, Boston, San Francisco, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, London, Dallas) and couldn't see it fail once from any location. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20091211) FESCo meeting
The following items will be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, at 17:00UTC (noon EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 284 request for provenpackager - Rakesh Pandit (rakesh) 267 Proven packager request - Sebastian Dziallas 291 Man pages Packaging Guideline 278 Better Hostname - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterHostname 292 Color Management - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ColorManagement 293 Moblin 2.2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Moblin-2.2 294 SSSD by default - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SSSDByDefault For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Talk Follow-up Meeting Wed or Thurs?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Would folks be available at 3 PM EST this Wednesday or Thursday to do a check-in to see where we are at and what to tackle next? We might also want to think about possible things to work on at FUDCon. $DAYJOB has been so non-stop for me that I can't guarantee Wednesday availability, but I'm on PTO for FUDCon starting on Thursday. However, my bus leaves at 4. Could we move it earlier in the day on Thursday, say around 2 or so? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Notification of uploads to the lookaside cache
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote: Does anyone know why I'm getting tons of notifications concerning packages for which I am not maintainer, co-maintainer? No clue - are you on fedora-extras-commits maybe? You'd get them all in that case. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Permission for an off-site copy of CVS
In an effort to work on the cvs side of https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/ticket/165 I'd like to have an offsite copy of cvs1:/cvs/pkgs to test on. Being that this is in violation of our security policy (http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html/EndUser-Standard-Introduction.html) and requires written permission, I'm asking for that permission here :) I just need two sysadmin-main members to +1 it, and I'll rsync it off tomorrow or so, ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20091120) FESCo meeting
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC (noon EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 274 Linville requests provenpackager membership 277 what to do about the default user-can-install-pkgs policy kit setting for package kit 272 Intellij IDEA - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IntelliJ_IDEA 278 Better Hostname - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterHostname 279 User Account Dialog - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UserAccountDialog For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20091113) FESCo meeting
The following topics are currently on the agenda for tomorrow's FESCo meeting, taking place at 17:00UTC (that's noon Eastern) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 263 Sponsorship request: hubbitus 268 Proven packager request - Daniel Drake 269 Request to approve me a sponsor for package maintainers 270 FESCO topic proposal - preupgrade and F-12 41 SystemTap Static Probes - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemtapStaticProbes 260 SIP Witch Domain Telephony - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SIP_Witch_Domain_Telephony 271 Automatic Print Driver installation - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AutomaticPrintDriverInstallation 272 Intellij IDEA - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IntelliJ_IDEA 273 Python 3 F13 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python3F13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20091113) FESCo meeting
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Jon Stanley jonstan...@gmail.com wrote: 269 Request to approve me a sponsor for package maintainers Apologies, this is a bad title for a ticket that I normally catch and correct. The me in this instance refers to Rahul Sundaram. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 20091030
Oops, I forgot to send this on Friday - sorry! === #fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20091030 === Meeting started by jds2001 at 17:00:16 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-30/fesco.2009-10-30-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * quick DST question (jds2001, 17:01:37) * AGREED: meeting will stay 1700UTC (jds2001, 17:03:53) * fluidsynth and PA (jds2001, 17:04:44) * LINK: http://markmail.org/message/bovdqb7na3zor2ck - without comment. (mjg59, 17:17:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500087#c13 (jds2001, 17:19:22) * AGREED: PA backend for fluidsynth must be built. If the current maintainer refuses, Kevin_Kofler will take over as maintainer. (jds2001, 17:32:01) * legally objectionable, binary and non-free items (jds2001, 17:33:34) * AGREED: spot's proposal is accpeted. (jds2001, 17:47:00) * open floor (jds2001, 17:50:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009_Packaging_Guidelines_Hackfest (abadger1999, 17:58:29) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009_Packaging_Guidelines_Hackfest (jds2001, 17:59:09) Meeting ended at 18:10:35 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * jds2001 (99) * skvidal (98) * Kevin_Kofler (79) * nirik (66) * dwmw2 (40) * drago01 (27) * abadger1999 (25) * j-rod (23) * dgilmore (17) * notting (13) * Oxf13 (12) * XulWork (7) * zodbot (7) * spot (4) * sharkcz (4) * mjg59 (2) * buggbot (2) * wwoods (1) * pingou (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to add upstream developer as a (co)maintainer of the existing application?
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote: I remember, that if Redhat hires someone from upstream, then no additional procedures with review requests and sponsorship needed (at least visible to others, outside Redhat) - (s)he just started to be a (co)maintainer. Anyone that wishes to maintain a package in Fedora, regardless of their employer, has to be sponsored. It's up to the individual sponsor of an individual what procedures (or lack thereof) must be followed in order to sponsor a person, but one would hope that there's at least *some* sort of filter there. Just because someone is a great developer doesn't make them a good packager (and vice versa). All that said, provided this person demonstrated some basic knowledge of Fedora packaging guidelines, I'd be willing to sponsor them. In that case, I'd also want watch* on the package(s) in question just to keep an eye on them :) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 20091023
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20091023 === Meeting started by jds2001 at 17:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-23/fedora-meeting.2009-10-23-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Documentation (jds2001, 17:03:23) * AGREED: when a policy decision is made not applicable to FPC, then the meeting chair will change the keyword of the ticket from meeting to writeup, and assign it to a specific person (jds2001, 17:13:17) * open floor (jds2001, 17:13:32) * there's a beta. it has blocker bugs. fesco encourages people to fix them. (jds2001, 17:14:58) * AGREED: non-trivial wallpaper changes after Tuesday will be rejected. The KDE SIG will work with that schedule (jds2001, 18:46:31) Meeting ended at 18:47:22 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * mizmo (110) * Kevin_Kofler (97) * jds2001 (72) * skvidal (44) * notting (44) * mccann (24) * dgilmore (15) * halfline (14) * stickster (11) * j-rod (10) * Oxf13 (10) * sharkcz (6) * rdieter (5) * zodbot (4) * Southern_Gentlem (2) * drago01 (2) * nirik (0) * dwmw2 (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: LAST FTF (FedoraTalk FAD) IRC Prep meeting :: 2009-10-20 @ 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT/12 PM PDT)
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Clint Savage her...@gmail.com wrote: In the meantime, I'll build an rpm from the src rpm in Fedora-12 branch and get it up on publictest15 tonight/tomorrow and send and update when I have it completed. It's important to note that asterisk2 is an F12 box (which will become the F-Talk box). Does not requiring it being in EPEL change anything? I would have mentioned this earlier, except that I wasn't quite sure what you were blocking on. Sorry! :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: change freeze ends tomorrow
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: Who's got stuff they want to implement over the next couple of days? I just have a real simple change of adding cvs* to https://admin.fp.o/status figured it was pretty non-critical so could wait. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FTF (FedoraTalk FAD) IRC Prep meeting :: 2009-10-13 @ 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT/12 PM PDT)
Auth via FAS would be swell. :) On 10/18/09, Clint Savage her...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Most likely I'll miss or be very late to the next meeting. I have made some good prgress with the asterisk setup instructions. The server is up, running and accepting sip packets. I haven't figured out how to get registrations accepted. (This is probably related to the domain name not matching the server name, but I'm still playing with it.) It would help if people tried out the instructions before the Tuesday meeting so that they could ask Jeff questions if some stuff there is unclear. I'll be spending some more time on this today as I would like to get to the point where twinkle to twinkle calls (through the server) work. But I am not sure I'll have that working before Tuesday. It should be pretty close configwise, but I need to figure out what needs to change and that may take a while. This sounds like a good place to give updates. I'm waiting on ixs (Andreas Thienemann) to build the icecast rpm for EPEL. I might just grab the source today and put it up on publictest15 anyway. The only real questions I have are what mount points we want to have and authentication. I'm going to look into each method of authentication and see what I can come up with. Cheers, Clint ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FTF (FedoraTalk FAD) IRC Prep meeting :: 2009-10-13 @ 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT/12 PM PDT)
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: Those MD5 hashes aren't your FAS password, they are your VoIP password, which is a separate setting. Right, I looked into the FAS Asterisk plugin, and the password (VoIP password, NOT the FAS password) looks to be stored in the db cleartext - see http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fas.git;a=blob;f=plugins/fas-plugin-asterisk/client/fas-asterisk-sync;h=53be6ba70ed93cb619184929b42dbc14c381e5fc;hb=HEAD line 40 (the md5 is constructed at runtime) So if we need the information, it should be *really* easily available. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Resignation of Josh Boyer from FESCo
It is with great regret that I announce the resignation of Josh Boyer from the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo). Josh has been an incredibly valuable member of FESCo during the time that he has served. It's important to note that the reason for this resignation is that Josh believes that community leaders should be actively leading in the community. With his other commitments, Josh simply could not make the time for both FESCo and maintaining a leadership role within the community. This is not the fault of Josh, FESCo in general, or any member of FESCo in particular. Instead, it represents that Josh is upholding the values that we hold dear in Fedora - openness, honesty, transparency, and meritocracy. Josh will be focusing on the QA of updates to stable Fedora releases, where he will need all the help that he can get. Please reach out to Josh and offer whatever help you can provide him in this effort. Replacing Josh on FESCo, per the succession policy[1], will be David Woodhouse, as he was the next highest runner-up in the recent elections[2]. Please join me in wishing Josh the best, and welcoming David back to FESCo. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00015.html -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
FESCo meeting summary for 20091009
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20091009 === Meeting started by jds2001 at 17:00:16 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-09/fedora-meeting.2009-10-09-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Revert Milestone adjustment (jds2001, 17:01:36) * LINK: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule (Kevin_Kofler, 17:02:29) * AGREED: Milestone Adjustment will not be reverted (jds2001, 17:03:13) * yum-presto by default (jds2001, 17:03:23) * AGREED: yum-presto is accepted as default for F12 (jds2001, 17:12:02) * FPC report (jds2001, 17:12:13) * AGREED: rpath packaging draft is approved (jds2001, 17:16:40) * AGREED: dir ownership packaging draft is approved (jds2001, 17:16:55) * incomplete features (jds2001, 17:17:17) * AGREED: DisplayPort feature was accepted with reduced scope (Intel only) via email (jds2001, 17:18:39) * open floor (jds2001, 17:19:13) * AGREED: jwb resigns from FESCo to focus on other Fedora issues. jds2001 will initiate the succession process for the remainder of this term (jwb_, 17:29:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy (jds2001, 17:32:53) * HELP: teachers are needed for the Fedora classroom, please help! (jds2001, 17:45:18) Meeting ended at 17:46:24 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * jds2001 (72) * Kevin_Kofler (44) * nirik (30) * jwb_ (29) * skvidal (19) * j-rod (16) * notting (13) * zodbot_ (8) * dgilmore (8) * sharkcz (6) * Oxf13 (3) * jwb (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 2009-10-02
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20091002 === Meeting started by jds2001 at 17:00:47 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-02/fedora-meeting.2009-10-02-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * incomplete features (jds2001, 17:04:12) * AGREED: DisplayPort feature is punted to F13, unles sthere's some other information we don't have (jds2001, 17:14:30) * LINK: http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetoothm=125447683916247w=2 (sgrubb, 17:17:31) * AGREED: Lower Porcess Capabilities is retained, dbus changes are being committed to complet the feature. (jds2001, 17:38:58) * AGREED: NFSv4Default feature is deferred to F13, will land very early (like now-ish :) ) (jds2001, 17:45:46) * open floor (jds2001, 17:53:28) Meeting ended at 17:54:44 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * jds2001 (74) * sgrubb (44) * Kevin_Kofler (43) * nirik (41) * notting (12) * walters (11) * steved (8) * dgilmore (8) * zodbot (7) * sharkcz (3) * skvidal (2) * j-rod (2) * buggbot (2) * Oxf13 (2) * jwb (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20091002) FESCo meeting
Sorry for the late notice. There's only one agenda item for tomorrow's FESCo meeting, and that's the dropping of features that are not yet 100% complete. The meeting will be held tomorrow at 17:00UTC (13:00EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net I've also copied the relevant feature owners, in the hopes this winds up in their inbox :) The features proposed to be dropped (also in FESCo ticket 254): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DisplayPort https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LowerProcessCapabilities https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSv4Default -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see any way around this atm but it is something to think about possibilities more. One way around this that I use at $DAYJOB (to minimize exposure of a PHP enabled webserver, thus minimizing attack surface, and also allowing apache to fail for a site without taking 15 unrelated sites with it), is to actually have two separate instances of httpd running, one with mod_python, and the other with mod_python3. Of course this requires manual intervention on the part of the local admin, but I would think that any admin that wanted to do this would be sufficiently competent to handle the intricacies of that choice. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: How about starting now? Our last two meetings took about 20 min combined. We're through the Feature process mostly, and we're entering the part of the development cycle that people need help with, reminders for, planning, etc. I actually agree with some of what John said. I had a discussion with someone earlier today that echoed many of those sentiments. +1. I've been sorta lax in this area, due to a whole bunch of things, a large one of which is $DAYJOB, which keeps me *quite* busy. However, for the original topic of this thread, I 100% agree that we should have noticed that NFSv4 mounts weren't the default and pestered Steve about that. This is a Big Thing(TM) that someone with the visibility that we have into the feature process should have noticed, since that was the entire point of the feature! At $DAYJOB I get to harp on the proactive vs. reactive bit. I think it's about the same that we do the same, where we can, in Fedora as well. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FAD -- startin' early
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Jon, that would be fantastic! I've already reached the limit of the small budget I've been allotted for the event; does that affect your ability to be there at all? Gah! Sorry for not seeing this sooner, it doesn't really affect me either way. The one thing that I do need to know is do I get off at the Richmond Amtrak station? (seems to add about 3 hours(?!?!?!) to the trip vs. DC), or someplace else? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
FESCo meeting summary for 2009-09-25
Here's the minutes from today's FESCo meeting, which may have been the shortest ever :) === #fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20090925 === Meeting started by jds2001 at 17:00:16 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-25/fedora-meeting.2009-09-25-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Non-responsive maintainer kurzawa (Krzysztof Kurzawski) (jds2001, 17:01:34) * AGREED: Krzysztof Kurzawski is a non-responsive maintainer, and his packages will be orphaned (jds2001, 17:02:51) * open floor (jds2001, 17:02:59) Meeting ended at 17:05:46 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * jds2001 (20) * zodbot (6) * skvidal (5) * Kevin_Kofler (4) * nirik (3) * jwb (2) * sharkcz (2) * j-rod (0) * notting (0) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FAD -- startin' early
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: We're going to be conversing on this list since obviously the work's primarily, maybe even wholly, infrastructure-related. Below is a bit of introductory email from last night that I wanted to make sure was captured transparently here. I would love to attend and help FTalk grow into a platform for collaboration. I can bring my SIP phone (already configured for FTalk) in lieu of a headset, though? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wiki account removal needed?
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the user Georgia10 just inserted spam on that page. Aiyiyi. What's our procedure for deleting/disabling a rogue FAS account? It appears that the account in question was just created today, probably for the express purpose of spamming the wiki and then disappearing. I would like to think that only a human could create an accounts, there's a variety of steps involved. But maybe some sort of CAPTCHA on the signup page could reduce this in the future? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
FESCo meeting summary for 20090918
I didn't see that anyone sent this out from the meeting on Friday that I wasn't able to be at, so here it is :) === #fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20090918 === Meeting started by nirik at 16:59:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-18/fedora-meeting.2009-09-18-16.59.log.html . Meeting log --- * sponsor application by Till Maas (nirik, 17:06:25) * ACTION: sponsorship approved for Till Maas (nirik, 17:07:29) * simplify non-responsive maintainer process (nirik, 17:07:37) * AGREED: Add new Fast Track non responsive maintainer procedure to the existing procedure. (nirik, 17:47:42) * Open Floor (nirik, 17:47:46) Meeting ended at 17:51:03 UTC. Action Items * sponsorship approved for Till Maas Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * sponsorship approved for Till Maas People Present (lines said) --- * nirik (55) * Kevin_Kofler (36) * notting (14) * tyll (12) * skvidal (7) * che (7) * j-rod (7) * sharkcz (6) * zodbot (5) * buggbot (1) * thomasj (1) * abadger1999 (1) * jds2001 (0) * jwb (0) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.3 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: List of Planet content for FI
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: I think that would be very close to the intention of the existing https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/PlanetFedora Does that go on FI in the New World Order(TM), or in the existing FWN format? I'm also thinking that what Jon is talking about is more of hey, beyond them being on planet and summarized on FWN, we could develop this into full-blown marketing material (or documentation, as the case may be) -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090911) FESCo meeting
Following are the topics on the agenda for tomorrow's FESCo meeting, taking place at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net: 248 Request to become provenpackager - sundaram 249 Request to become provenpackager - akurtakov 250 Fedora Packaging Committee items for ratification (2009-09-09) For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 20090904
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-04/fedora-meeting.2009-09-04-17.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-04/fedora-meeting.2009-09-04-17.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-04/fedora-meeting.2009-09-04-17.01.log.html -- 17:01:37 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo meeting 2009-09-04 17:01:37 zodbot Meeting started Fri Sep 4 17:01:37 2009 UTC. The chair is jds2001. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:37 zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:01:38 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 17:01:38 zodbot Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dgilmore j-rod jds2001 jwb nirik notting sharkcz skvidal 17:01:42 * skvidal is here 17:01:43 * nirik is here. 17:01:46 * sharkcz is here 17:01:49 skvidal woah - and so is jds2001, apparently 17:01:50 jds2001 change in plans, I'm here :) 17:01:52 Kevin_Kofler Present. 17:01:57 * notting is here 17:02:17 jds2001 alright, let me pull up the agenda :) 17:02:45 j-rod Here 17:02:46 jds2001 notting: the report looks old and stale 17:02:55 notting jds2001: nothing else was in the tickets 17:02:55 jds2001 do we just have those two items? 17:02:59 jds2001 k 17:03:13 jds2001 #topic FLP proposal 17:03:16 jds2001 .fesco 243 17:03:18 zodbot jds2001: #243 (New entry of 'Build packages for which Fedora is upstream for all language translators' review correction' for F12 schedule) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/243 17:03:46 nirik so they added a list... 17:03:54 notting given that list, i'm +1 for it 17:04:00 nirik but do we really want to add this right now for this cycle? I guess we could. 17:04:22 jds2001 yeah, that list is sane. 17:04:50 jds2001 but it adds something starting today 17:05:05 nirik well, yesterday... 17:05:09 jds2001 poelcat: you around? 17:05:19 notting realistically,it's 'build packages by beta freeze' 17:05:47 Kevin_Kofler The deadline is Sep 15. 17:05:56 Kevin_Kofler Who cares about the start date? 17:06:00 Kevin_Kofler We can make it today or whatever. 17:06:25 Kevin_Kofler I'm +1 to the proposal with the given list. 17:06:40 nirik how do indicate to the maintainers of those packages that they must do a build? 17:07:12 jds2001 i guess file a bug? 17:07:16 Kevin_Kofler But I'm completely -1 to the suggestion of introducing that kind of requirements for packages which are translated by upstream teams (or upstream projects which don't do translations at all). 17:07:29 jds2001 Kevin_Kofler: me too 17:07:59 * skvidal is cool w/the list too - +1 17:08:05 jds2001 +1 17:08:16 sharkcz +1, the list is OK 17:08:33 * warren has a question for FESCO when it is appropriate. 17:08:33 j-rod I'll play balk too, +1 17:08:47 notting play balk? we all take a base? 17:08:51 jds2001 warren: we only have one more item on the agenda :) 17:09:12 jds2001 which i suspect is a noop, but oh well. 17:09:32 nirik +1 from me too, but we should make sure they know abotu this... fedora-devel-announce email? or email to all the maintainers? 17:10:19 jds2001 yeah, who wants to take that? 17:10:23 jds2001 the proposal owner? 17:10:27 jds2001 or one of us? 17:11:02 * dgilmore is here 17:11:44 jds2001 bueller? 17:12:58 * jds2001 guesses he'll do it just to move on :) 17:13:06 notting i think the trans team can do it,as they're probably in a good position to do it for future releases too 17:13:12 sharkcz IMO the proposal owner should create a tracker bug + bugs for individual packages 17:13:23 notting unless it becomes part of the 'normal' schedule notices 17:13:50 jds2001 notting: i guess it would be in the future. 17:14:38 jds2001 ok, lets put a note in the ticket 17:14:52 jds2001 saying that this needs to be communicated by the trans team. 17:15:03 jds2001 sound good? 17:15:32 notting wfm 17:15:56 jds2001 #agreed FLP proposal is accepted, will need to be communicated to package owners by the translation team 17:16:04 poelcat jds2001: yes, i'm here 17:16:06 jds2001 #top libvdpau 17:16:19 jds2001 poelcat: cool 17:16:31 poelcat now that i saw ping :) 17:16:35 jds2001 poelcat: we just added an item to the F12 schedule :) 17:16:55 jds2001 poelcat: the translation team wanted all packages rebuilt for which we are upstream. 17:17:10 poelcat cool, i'll add it in 17:17:12 jds2001 There's a list in https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/243 17:17:26 poelcat how long does that task usually take? 17:17:38 notting a day or three 17:17:44 jds2001 poelcat: the translation team had it proposed to start yesterday and go to the 15th 17:17:49 notting less if all the maintainers are paying attention 17:17:50 jds2001 for future schedules :) 17:18:04 jds2001 but yeah, it doesnt take that long 17:18:39 poelcat just curious so i can build the logic in the right way... *who* builds the packages...each maintainer or automatically by releng? 17:18:58 jds2001 good question :) 17:19:04 jds2001 each
FESCo meeting summary for 2009-08-28
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-28/fedora-meeting.2009-08-28-17.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-28/fedora-meeting.2009-08-28-17.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-28/fedora-meeting.2009-08-28-17.01.log.html --- 17:01:14 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo meeting 20090828 17:01:14 zodbot Meeting started Fri Aug 28 17:01:14 2009 UTC. The chair is jds2001. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:14 zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:01:17 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 17:01:17 zodbot Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dgilmore j-rod jds2001 jwb nirik notting sharkcz skvidal 17:01:21 * nirik is here. 17:01:26 skvidal hi 17:01:27 * sharkcz is here 17:02:02 jds2001 anyone else? 17:02:08 * notting is here 17:02:27 jds2001 ok, we have something of quorum :/ 17:02:57 jds2001 #topic tbzatek provenpackager request 17:03:03 jds2001 .fesco 246 17:03:04 zodbot jds2001: #246 (Request to become provenpackager - tbzatek) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/246 17:03:24 jds2001 +1, we have no better way atm :/ 17:03:33 sharkcz +1 17:03:53 notting +1, tbzatek has been around quite a while and knows what he's doing 17:03:55 nirik +1 from here. It seems ok. 17:04:03 notting kkofler was +1 in the ticket 17:04:07 notting iirc 17:04:13 jds2001 yep 17:04:30 jds2001 #agreed tbzatek provenpackager is approved 17:04:40 jds2001 oops, a little ordering issue 17:04:50 jds2001 #topic provenpackager request - bruno 17:05:19 jds2001 so there were objections to this, and I agree with them 17:05:21 nirik I would say he should do more work and maintain more packages and come back in a while. 17:05:32 jds2001 he's not met the 'proven' part 17:05:36 nirik he's a great guy and has been very good maintaining the games spin. 17:05:38 notting i see no reason to override the opinions of his sponsor, for example. so -1. 17:05:39 jds2001 yeah 17:05:45 nirik but only has one package currently. 17:05:50 brunowolff Two 17:06:20 nirik oh, sorry. ;) Hi brunowolff. 17:06:46 brunowolff I just picked up glest/glest-data last week when it was orphaned. 17:06:51 nirik brunowolff: would you be willing to do some more packages and come back to us in a month or so? 17:07:03 jds2001 but as with notting, I see no reason to override his sponsor on this. 17:07:16 brunowolff But I am not necesarily disagreeing with the proven part not being met. 17:08:36 brunowolff I am not so much looking to become the maintainer of more packages as much as to be able to simple rebuilds to things on the games 17:09:00 brunowolff spin. Their are other ways (like asking others for help) to get that done. 17:09:48 brunowolff Continuing doing that for for longer isn't a big deal. 17:10:00 jds2001 OK, good. 17:10:02 nirik yeah, but sometimes those simple rebuilds are not so simple. ;) Of course sometimes they are. 17:10:17 brunowolff That's what make scratch-build is for. 17:10:34 brunowolff I can still learn a lot more. 17:10:39 sharkcz or local mock build 17:10:52 jds2001 sharkcz: make mockbuild :) 17:11:03 jds2001 just in case you didn't know about it :) 17:11:46 sharkcz jds2001: I know :) but it deletes the chroot at the end so I rather do a manual mock build 17:12:30 jds2001 anyhow, shall we move on? 17:13:14 sharkcz yes, I agree with the rest of fesco, -1 for now 17:13:32 jds2001 #agreed brunowolff provenpackager is declined for now, please come back later with more experience 17:13:52 jds2001 #topic translations proposal 17:13:59 jds2001 .fesco 243 17:14:01 zodbot jds2001: #243 (New entry of 'Build packages for which Fedora is upstream for all language translators' review correction' for F12 schedule) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/243 17:14:28 jds2001 so I'm not sure what the scope of this is supposed to be anymore :) 17:14:38 skvidal crap 17:14:47 skvidal sorry - I got distracted from the meeting 17:14:54 jds2001 skvidal: np 17:15:06 jds2001 skvidal: you wanted to say something? 17:15:10 skvidal no 17:15:12 skvidal it's fine 17:15:18 jds2001 k 17:15:22 skvidal none of the items on the agenda today worried me 17:15:29 skvidal for the most part they look procedural 17:15:38 jds2001 except this one :) 17:15:47 jds2001 well i guess it still is/ 17:15:55 skvidal anyway - go on 17:16:08 jds2001 but anyhow, do we know what the scope of this proposal is precisely? 17:16:23 jds2001 I thought it was packages for which we are upstream and have translations 17:16:41 jds2001 but it seems to have gotten confused with packages that have translations 17:16:56 skvidal if it is the former then +1 17:17:00 skvidal if it is the latter then -1 17:17:11 * notting agrees with skvidal on both counts 17:17:21 * sharkcz too :-) 17:17:24 * jds2001 too 17:17:28 * nirik nods. 17:17:38 nirik by 'we are upstream' you mean 'uses fedora tranisfex'
Plan for tomorrow's (20090828) FESCo meeting
The following is a list of topics to be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 246 Request to become provenpackager - tbzatek 243 New entry of 'Build packages for which Fedora is upstream for all language translators' review correction' for F12 schedule 247 Request for Proven Packager for Bruno Wolff III (bruno) 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FESCo meeting summary for 20090729
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: Again the log seems to be incomplete. If I type .fesco 218 in #feedora-meeting, I get this line from zodbot: FYI, I just updated the meetbot plugin on noc1 to the latest version in koji that Kevin built a bit ago, which contains a fix for this issue. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Lower Process Capabilities
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: $ sudo -i sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 00, should be 0440 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting This is sudo checking the permissions of it's own sudoers file. Since they aren't what it expects, it bails. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
New, improved FESCo trac instance
As one of the features implemented out of a complaint that the FESCo wiki information was outdated since our move to a Trac-based workflow, there are now templates for various types of tickets in the FESCo trac instance at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco. If you attempt to file a ticket, a template will appear. If you change the type of ticket, it will ask if you wish to reload the template for that ticket type. Click OK. and you have a relevant template to fill out. Delete the explanatory text in the template, and fill in the requested information. This will enhance the ability for FESCo to provide prompt resolution to issues. Thanks for your cooperation! -Jon -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 2009-08-14
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-14/fedora-meeting.2009-08-14-17.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-14/fedora-meeting.2009-08-14-17.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-14/fedora-meeting.2009-08-14-17.01.log.html -- 17:01:23 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo meeting 2009/08/14 17:01:25 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 17:01:41 * nirik is here. 17:01:43 jds2001 so notting and skvidal are unhere 17:02:04 Kevin_Kofler Present. 17:02:44 * dgilmore is here 17:03:02 * j-rod here 17:03:27 jds2001 cool 17:03:42 jds2001 #topic apcuspd static linking 17:03:47 jds2001 .fesco 235 17:04:16 Kevin_Kofler Can't the libs go to /lib instead? 17:04:26 Kevin_Kofler Static linking sounds like a bad solution to me. 17:04:44 j-rod please to be not the linking of static 17:04:46 jds2001 how many are there? 17:04:47 Kevin_Kofler But there clearly is a problem there, stuff in / must not require libs from /usr. 17:04:57 nirik .bugzilla bug 346271 17:04:59 bugbot Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=346271 low, low, ---, notting, ASSIGNED, halt initscript does not properly handle apcupsd shutdowns 17:05:28 nirik it's other packages /usr/lib/ libs that it's linked to... 17:05:45 nirik snmp and sensors 17:05:53 Kevin_Kofler Those need to be moved to /lib. 17:06:09 jds2001 well my rootfs is typically like 1GB 17:06:10 Kevin_Kofler Statically linking strikes me as the wrong solution to a real problem. 17:06:19 dgilmore i thought we had already agreed that we dont support /usr of a seperate filesystem 17:06:39 jds2001 so if we move everything in the world to /lib, then I've got a problem. 17:07:01 nirik dgilmore: yeah, I wonder how many people aside from jds2001 do seperate /usr anymore. 17:07:23 * jds2001 doesnt think i'm unique :) 17:07:36 nirik the guide suggests against it. 17:07:37 dgilmore jds2001: but you are 17:07:39 nirik http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/s2-diskpartrecommend-x86.html#sn-partitioning-advice 17:07:48 * jds2001 can point to several thousand systems at $DAYJOB that have a separate /usr 17:07:49 nirik Do not place /usr on a separate partition 17:08:08 nirik jds2001: is that seperate /usr on local disk? or via net? 17:08:15 jds2001 local disk 17:08:17 dgilmore im pretty sure last release we said that /usr on a seperate filesystem was not supported 17:08:38 nirik then in this case I don't think it matters. This is only a problem if we shut down net and can't use /usr/lib/ 17:08:39 jds2001 and they're RHEL/Solaris, but the point remains. 17:09:03 jds2001 I think remote /usr isn't supported. 17:09:05 nirik so this case is not 'seperate /usr' but 'seperate /usr on network' 17:09:11 nirik (unless I am reading this wrong) 17:09:29 jds2001 pretty much how i read it too. 17:09:42 dgilmore nirik: which is really not supported 17:10:01 nirik humm... or is it... does it umount other fses before it runs that? 17:11:17 * nirik re-reads the patch and halt script. 17:12:22 nirik no, it's all non root mounts I think... 17:12:23 Kevin_Kofler How much of the static libs gets linked in if we do the static linking? If it doesn't actually save space, then it's a no-brainer to -1 it and tell them to just move the stuff to /lib instead if they want to support this usecase. 17:13:07 dgilmore its a seperate /usr 17:13:18 nirik yeah, I don't know how far it goes adding those 2 packages and their deps to /lib 17:13:26 Kevin_Kofler One advantage of moving to /lib is that it costs essentially nothing for those who don't have separate /usr unlike static linking. 17:13:53 Kevin_Kofler So for the vast majority of people, if the problem is to be solved, moving to /lib is the best solution. 17:13:57 dgilmore the answer here i believe is dont have a seperate /usr 17:14:49 dgilmore it doesnt make sense like it used to anymore 17:14:55 Kevin_Kofler Why can't we just move the libs to /lib? For all those without a separate /usr, it won't change a thing. 17:15:13 dgilmore Kevin_Kofler: where do we stop? 17:15:25 Kevin_Kofler For those few folks with a separate /usr, it'll solve their problem, and if their / is not big enough, they'll just have to fix it. 17:15:50 Kevin_Kofler dgilmore: Good question. Maybe we should drop /usr entirely like HURD or make it an alias for / like MSYS? ;-) 17:15:51 nirik if it's just 2 packages for this I'd be ok with moving them to /lib... but if it pulls in a bunch of stuff we should just say no. 17:16:21 nirik in any case I don't think we should static link unless there is a more compelling reason. 17:16:27 jds2001 yeah, I'm wondering how much stuff it drags in 17:16:39 jds2001 static linking is bad, mmmkkaayyy :) 17:16:42 dgilmore Do not place /usr on a separate partition If /usr is on a separate partition from /, the boot process becomes much more complex, and in some situations (like installations on iSCSI drives), might not
Plan for Friday's (20090814) FESCo meeting
The following topics will be discussed at Friday's FESCo meeting at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net: 235 Apcupsd - static linking 241 Fedora Packaging Committee items for ratification 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? 236 Proposal to allow translated versions of Publican-created documents to bypass review. For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 20090807
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-07/fedora-meeting.2009-08-07-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-07/fedora-meeting.2009-08-07-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-07/fedora-meeting.2009-08-07-17.00.log.html --- 17:00:19 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo meeting 2009-08-07 17:00:20 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 17:00:27 * nirik is here. 17:00:32 jds2001 FergatROn: in #fedora-websites 17:00:40 Kevin_Kofler Present. 17:00:46 FergatROn jds2001: the meeting is on #fedora-websites channel? 17:00:47 FergatROn odd 17:00:55 * skvidal is here 17:01:00 jds2001 FergatROn: yeah, the websites meeting conflicts with FESCo 17:01:06 FergatROn jds2001: thanks 17:02:18 * notting is here now 17:02:25 jds2001 cool 17:02:35 jds2001 shall we get started? 17:02:48 jds2001 #topic MW Patch issue 17:02:54 jds2001 .fesco 225 17:03:06 jds2001 Kevin_Kofler: you have an update here? 17:03:19 Kevin_Kofler So some discussion got started after this got escalated, I had hoped they'd find a resolution. Unfortunately, the discussion has since dried out. 17:03:37 jds2001 yeah , me too :( 17:03:56 * ricky would be happy to restart the discussion - I just need to do some testing on some of the methods mentioned 17:04:51 jds2001 that does no good if the maintainer doesnt apply your patch :( 17:04:54 nirik shall we let ricky do that and revisit in a while? or ? 17:04:59 jds2001 sure 17:05:26 jds2001 #topic outdated wiki 17:05:30 jds2001 .fesco 176 17:05:33 Kevin_Kofler nirik: Sure. 17:05:41 jds2001 so our wiki pages are in various states of fail. 17:05:50 j-rod Running late, sorry 17:06:16 jds2001 notting wanted to appoint someone to JFDI :) 17:06:23 notting jds2001: yeah, my goal was to bring this up so that the 'Assigned to' part of this ticket is no longer blank 17:06:25 jds2001 which seems reasonable 17:07:00 jds2001 volunteers? 17:07:20 * jds2001 hears crickets 17:08:25 nirik Finding the time is the big thing. ;( Perhaps some docs people would be willing to help out? 17:08:39 jds2001 yeah, -ENOTIME here too :( 17:09:12 jds2001 ianweller: you around? 17:09:26 Kevin_Kofler Before appointing something to do the work, we should agree on what should be done. 17:09:26 nirik or call for helpers on the devel list? 17:09:34 * jds2001 defers to the wiki czar 17:09:36 Kevin_Kofler So the plan for the template page is to turn it into a Trac template? 17:09:48 Kevin_Kofler That needs somebody with Trac admin privileges to handle. 17:09:49 jds2001 Kevin_Kofler: i think that makes sense, I can do that 17:09:53 ianweller jds2001: sorta! 17:09:58 Kevin_Kofler Then the wiki page can be removed. 17:10:13 ianweller uh oh perhaps some docs people are willing to help out / ianweller: you around? bad combination for me. ;) 17:10:18 * nirik looks more closely at the ticket again. 17:10:30 Kevin_Kofler For the schedule page, I think we should be linking to https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 17:10:42 jds2001 ianweller: no, we're just saying that our pages are in a state of fail 17:10:47 nirik so that gets rid of a few pages on the wiki side, but we need to clean up the overall tree of fesco pages. 17:10:50 ianweller ok 17:11:11 jds2001 we're looking for some assistance to get them out of said state of fail :) 17:11:37 ianweller i'm usually around to answer questions in #fedora-docs (or even #fedora-devel) 17:12:42 jds2001 alright, I'll put out a call for a proposal on what should be done 17:12:43 nirik so, looking at the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers page, I would say we should look at: renaming category pages consistently, putting policies in one area, and suggestions in another and guides/howtos in another? 17:12:44 skvidal jds2001: we could just change them to say ask jds2001 on irc if you need to know something 17:12:46 Kevin_Kofler Why the heck is the EPEL page embedded or copypasted into the Development/Schedule page? 17:12:46 Kevin_Kofler It has nothing to do with scheduling. 17:13:02 jds2001 Kevin_Kofler: i dunno :) 17:13:13 Kevin_Kofler I can clean up the page, there won't be much left though. ;-) 17:13:24 nirik Kevin_Kofler: looks like a cut and paste error. ;( 17:13:28 Kevin_Kofler Mostly just one or more links to Trac. 17:14:25 Kevin_Kofler Hmmm, indeed, it should probably be embedding EPEL/Schedule. 17:14:26 jds2001 my trac plugin package review got approved, I'm just waiting for CVS on it. 17:14:27 * dgilmore is kinda here 17:14:28 Kevin_Kofler Not the main EPEL page. 17:14:55 nirik Kevin_Kofler: not sure why it would have any epel content there... 17:14:59 jds2001 and then I can get it into infra, and enable it for our instance. 17:15:05 * nirik will run the cvs queue after this meeting. 17:15:30 Kevin_Kofler OK, well, let's do some proposals for cleanup and try to do fast votes? 17:15:56 Kevin_Kofler Proposal 1: delete EPEL section (embedding of EPEL page) from
Re: Mailing list migration procedures
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Kevin Fenzike...@tummy.com wrote: Are we doing a mass migration? Or just migrating lists some at a time as time permits? I can see advantages/disadvantages to both ways, just wondering which we are planning. I was planning on starting small, and adding from there. There's less risk that way. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Mailing list migration procedures
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Have you thought whether a reorganization is desirable while migrating? Yes, note the section in the document about renaming lists. I wasn't very verbose in there about why you'd want to do that, maybe I was in an earlier draft :). But the words 'fedora' and 'list' should never appear in the list name - it's obvious that it's a list from the domain name (lists.fp.o), as well as it has to do with Fedora (neither of these were true of the lists @redhat.com). The two examples that you cited above would be renamed perl-devel and java-devel, at least that's what makes sense to me. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Mailing list migration procedures
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Sandro red Mathysr...@fedoraproject.org wrote: so, fedora-list@ will become -@ or n...@? ;) Obviously not :). I was thinking of like users@ :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com wrote: If there was no public available source repo, yes we'd complain. If there was, I don't think we'd complain really. ugh, found this in my drafts from yesterday I think (correct me if I'm wrong) is that this exception was originally designed for s-c-*, where there was no publicly available SCM (until they migrated to 108 and then fedorahosted). We already have guidelines for building from SCM, thereby making us the canonical tarball release, so I don't think this exception is required any longer myself -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: Is there already support for this in rpmbuild? Can I use a SCM url as Source0 in spec files? This would be off course very useful. The only requirement for Source0 is that the last element in a URL point to a valid tarball, zipfile, whatever in %_topdir/SOURCES. If you can get that out of an SCM URL, more power to ya :) There are procedures for SCM as the canonical source, however. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:NamingGuidelines#Package_Version -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mailing list migration procedures
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Matt Domschmatt_dom...@dell.com wrote: I added a couple notes about _not_ regenerating the archives, and handling the forwards from Red Hat. Good catch. I assumed that RHT would be willing to continue hosting the archives for the old lists for an indefinite period, and that any new links that folks make would obviously point to the new archives. If we just take the HTML from Red Hat without regenerating it so that the old filenames work, then I fear that some of the links in the HTML might not work (particularly to attachments, if there were any) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.log.html 16:59:31 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo meeting 7/31/09 16:59:33 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 16:59:40 * nirik is here. 16:59:51 * pingou around 16:59:53 * sharkcz here 17:00:05 * jwb is here 17:00:14 Kevin_Kofler Present. 17:01:00 jds2001 sorry for the false alarm re: lunch 17:01:02 * dgilmore is here 17:01:07 * skvidal is here 17:01:09 jds2001 got the food to go :) 17:01:17 jds2001 anyhow, let's get started 17:01:35 jds2001 #topic mikeb as sponsor 17:01:40 jds2001 .fesco 211 17:01:52 jds2001 looks like he withdrew his request. 17:01:52 dgilmore +1 17:01:52 * notting is here 17:02:26 nirik I disagree that we should base this on quantity. I think that him doing more reviews to gain visibility and prove his understanding would be good too tho. 17:02:29 jds2001 but that being said, I'd still be +1 17:02:32 dgilmore because of the nosie made about it 17:02:47 jds2001 yes, same here, i dont think that quantity is a good indicator. 17:03:14 jwb he withdrew his request 17:03:22 dgilmore he did 17:03:25 jds2001 he also mentioned a desire to work on the backlog 17:03:26 dgilmore move on 17:03:26 nirik so, lets ask him to reapply in a month or something... 17:03:31 jds2001 yeah 17:03:33 Kevin_Kofler Well, feedback from the sponsors list was overwhelmingly negative. 17:03:45 jds2001 based on quantity 17:03:49 Kevin_Kofler If you think sponsors are basing their feedback on the wrong criteria, we need to get the criteria fixed. 17:03:52 jds2001 based on flawed criteria. 17:04:17 tibbs Please don't ask our opinions if you don't like the answers you receive. 17:04:17 Kevin_Kofler Or rather, clearly defined, because it seems they aren't. 17:04:36 jds2001 they aren't. And they shouldn't be. 17:04:57 jds2001 it's a subjective thing, really 17:05:01 Kevin_Kofler I agree with tibbs, it's ridiculous to ask for feedback from the sponsors and then to ignore it. 17:05:02 tibbs So you won't define criteria, but yet you can easily say that someone else's criteria are flawed? 17:05:02 * nirik notes there was only one -1 17:05:04 jwb jds2001, then you can't really say their criteria is flawed 17:05:10 tibbs That's really a poor method of argumentation. 17:05:30 Kevin_Kofler And saying they're basing their decision on flawed criteria doesn't make sense when there are no criteria defined at all. 17:05:42 jds2001 tibbs: sorry, I meant that other things should be taken into account 17:05:49 nirik there was one -1 (from someone who thinks quantity is important) and a bunch of discussion about the process from various other people. 17:05:51 Kevin_Kofler So I stay with my -1 vote. 17:05:54 * jds2001 notes the feedback was based on quantiy of reviews. 17:06:07 jds2001 solely, and nothing else. 17:06:17 skvidal umm 17:06:27 skvidal why are we discussing a withdrawn item? 17:06:29 Kevin_Kofler nirik: What you call discussion was I agree to the person saying -1. 17:06:30 skvidal let's move along 17:06:44 jds2001 agreed. 17:06:49 Kevin_Kofler And I think I've seen more than one explicit -1 too, but I may be remembering wrong. 17:07:07 jds2001 #topic Fedora packages as canonical upstreams 17:07:11 nirik Kevin_Kofler: I just reread the thread. Thats the only -1. ;) anyhow... 17:07:11 jds2001 .fesco 210 17:07:29 tibbs This was proposed to FPC, but it's not really FPC's decision. 17:07:45 jds2001 so there's some sticky situations here. 17:07:46 Kevin_Kofler -1 to removing the exception, it makes no sense. 17:07:58 jds2001 If there is code, then the exception needs to be removed. 17:08:07 jwb jds2001, huh? 17:08:14 Kevin_Kofler There are plenty of upstreams with no tarballs, only some SCM, some SRPMs or other source packages etc. 17:08:16 jds2001 If there's not, then it can stay (I particularly looked at basesystem) 17:08:18 nirik what would be valid as a upstream here? a fedorapeople link? 17:08:32 jds2001 nirik: or a fedorahosted project 17:08:36 jds2001 nothing extravagant 17:08:38 Kevin_Kofler There are also plenty of upstreams which just dump a tar.bz2 into some directory. 17:08:43 jds2001 but basesystem has nothing. 17:08:45 nirik so this is saying that every package needs a Source0: that is a url? 17:08:51 jwb Kevin_Kofler, those aren't want this is about... 17:08:51 Kevin_Kofler If we do that, is that really more helpful than just having it in the SRPM? 17:08:55 jds2001 nirik: thats how i read it. 17:08:56 tibbs We complain when suse makes you pull sources out of one of their packages. 17:09:04 jwb Kevin_Kofler, ah, i see where you are going 17:09:07 Kevin_Kofler jwb: Why should we be held to higher standards than other upstreams? 17:09:13 jwb right, got it now
Mailing list migration procedures
I'd like some mailman experts (if we have any) to take a look at this procedure to migrate lists from redhat.com to lists.fp.o and let me know if there's something obviously missing from it or if there's some way that it can be improved. Feel free to make any edits you deem necessary. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailman_Infrastructure_SOP#Mailman_migration ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090731) FESCo meeting
Sorry for the late agenda, got busy at $DAYJOB today, and went out afterwards. Here are the topics to be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 211 mikeb as a packager sponsor 210 Fedora packages as canonical upstreams 232 Fedora Packaging Guidelines for Ratification 218 Rakudo Perl 6 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Rakudo_Perl_6 209 Request to become provenpackager - otaylor 233 Request to become provenpackager - pingou For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 20090729
Sorry for the delay in getting this out, I was distracted right at the end of the meeting by a coworker hovering over my desk :). Summary: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-29/fedora-meeting.2009-07-29-17.01.html Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-29/fedora-meeting.2009-07-29-17.01.log.html Note that the vote on VirtTCK was not unanimous, somehow that didn't make it into the summary but was something that we wanted to call out. 17:01:20 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo special meeting - 2009-07-29 17:01:24 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 17:01:28 * onekopaka will be here. 17:01:41 * skvidal is here 17:01:44 * cwickert is also here as Christoph Wickert 17:01:44 * notting is here 17:01:47 * nirik is here. 17:01:49 Kevin_Kofler Present. 17:01:54 * sharkcz is here 17:01:56 Kevin_Kofler onekopaka: Yeah, but you can't vote. ^^ 17:01:58 * jds2001 brings up the list 17:02:02 onekopaka Jeff_S: I know! 17:02:07 onekopaka err 17:02:10 onekopaka Kevin_Kofler: I know! 17:02:10 Gerd Gerd is also here as Gerd Pokorra 17:02:22 * Jeff_S can't vote either 17:02:24 * onekopaka will be here for the fun of it. 17:02:31 * dgilmore is here 17:02:39 dgilmore but im in another meeting also 17:02:42 onekopaka because it's fun to watch these meetings. 17:02:45 onekopaka FUN. 17:02:50 jds2001 anyhow 17:02:51 jds2001 ;et 17:02:54 jds2001 let 17:02:59 jds2001 's get started 17:03:05 jds2001 i cant type today 17:03:13 jds2001 #topic Raduko perl 6 17:03:16 * skvidal gives jds2001 a new 300 baud acoustic coupler to use 17:03:18 jds2001 .fesco 218 17:03:29 cwickert can I say something about this? 17:03:31 onekopaka perl 6? 17:03:35 jds2001 sure 17:03:43 cwickert first of all I feel like people who voted were not really informed 17:03:50 dgilmore -1 17:03:53 cwickert somebody claimed we were still waiting for something. 17:03:57 Kevin_Kofler +1, seems they can get it in, and if not it can always be punted later. 17:03:58 cwickert this is not correct. the 'something was released three days before. 17:04:06 cwickert we have a building package now 17:04:07 dgilmore this feature is 33% done and feature freeze is past 17:04:10 jds2001 right, we didnt think you had a working interpreter at all. 17:04:17 jds2001 but now you do :) 17:04:23 skvidal cwickert: fortunately we don't have to be informed to vote - it's just like the american electorate :) 17:04:26 Kevin_Kofler I think we should approve this. 17:04:31 cwickert skvidal: ;) 17:04:32 Kevin_Kofler It's a new package, it can't break anything. 17:04:52 cwickert dgilmore: the feature does not need to be at 100% for feature freeze 17:04:56 Kevin_Kofler So even if it gets completed a few days late due to upstream scheduling, that won't affect Fedora in any negative way. 17:05:12 cwickert we did it in a couple of days, so please let us try 17:05:22 Kevin_Kofler And if it really fails, we can always postpone it to F13 later. 17:05:44 cwickert Kevin_Kofler: we are in contact with upstream, at least Gerd works with them closely 17:05:45 * jds2001 says to let them try 17:05:58 * onekopaka would say +1. 17:05:59 nirik is someone planning on reviewing that package? it's still in new. ;) 17:06:03 dgilmore cwickert: it should be very close 17:06:12 skvidal so I'm confused 17:06:19 Kevin_Kofler dgilmore: It's a new package, it can't break anything. 17:06:20 cwickert nirik: I will and I think lubomir will too 17:06:21 Kevin_Kofler It can go in late. 17:06:37 skvidal cwickert: if we don't approve this as a feature - how does it stop you from working on it? 17:06:38 dgilmore Kevin_Kofler: doesnt matter 17:06:41 Kevin_Kofler I'm sure rel-eng can let it in. 17:06:56 cwickert skvidal: nothing, but Fedora won't benefit then 17:06:56 dgilmore skvidal: it doesnt 17:06:58 nirik skvidal: it doesn't, it just doesn't get advertised. 17:07:05 nirik (or as much) 17:07:07 Kevin_Kofler dgilmore: Freeze exemptions have been granted for new packages in several cases. 17:07:10 skvidal cwickert: fedora benefits from it how? 17:07:15 Kevin_Kofler The rationale is: it can't hurt. 17:07:32 Kevin_Kofler skvidal: It supports a new language which is going to be the next big thing in the Perl community. 17:07:38 cwickert if we have a working perl6 binary, fedora can be used by teachers to show their students the future of perl 17:07:46 Kevin_Kofler Maybe KDE 5 or even some later 4.x will even require it. 17:07:48 cwickert we could hae it in the devel spin as well 17:08:04 Kevin_Kofler (Current KDE requires Perl 5 for some things, e.g. kconf_update and some build-time scripts.) 17:08:08 cwickert Fedora will be a better platform for developers 17:08:13 * nirik looks at the feature freeze page. 17:08:14 skvidal cwickert: again 17:08:18 skvidal nothing says it can't get it 17:08:21 skvidal just that it is not a feature 17:08:26 skvidal see what I mean? 17:08:30 Kevin_Kofler skvidal: Why is it not a feature? 17:08:37 skvidal if we
Final agenda for tomorrow's special session FESCo meeting
As I'd mentioned on Monday, we're having a special FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting in order to review the following features for Fedora 12. 218 Rakudo Perl 6 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Rakudo_Perl_6 219 System Crypto database - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemCryptoDatabase 223 Virt TCK - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtTCK 226 Media Repo - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MediaRepo 227 Split Softokn off from NSS - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SplitSoftoknFromNSS 228 Systemtap Eclipse GUI - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemTapEclipseGUI 229 Thusnelda - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Thusnelda 230 Volume Control Continued - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControlContinued 231 Harfbuzz - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Harfbuzz This will be the last meeting for acceptance of Fedora 12 features. Thanks! -Jon -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Wednesday special session FESCo meeting
I've heard back from a few of the FESCo members, and it looks like we're going to do a special session on Wednesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting in order to knock out a few last features for Fedora 12. I just wanted to drop a note saying that it was happening, the agenda is still dynamic right now, so anything that I sent out would surely be stale by the time of the meeting. I'll probably send out a full agenda tomorrow after work (US/Eastern). You can follow the current agenda real time at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 as always. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090724) FESCo meeting
I profusely apologize, time slipped away from me today and I didn't get an agenda put together until now. Following are the topics to be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 211 mikeb as a packager sponsor 217 Power management F12 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagementF12 220 SystemTap Tracing refresh - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemtapTracingRefresh 224 No frozen rawhide proposal 186 Yum langpack plugin - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin 202 KVM Stable Guest ABI - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_Stable_Guest_ABI 207 PK Browser Plugin - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PackageKitBrowserPlugin 212 GFS2 Clustered Samba - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GFS2ClusteredSamba 213 KSM - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KSM 214 KVM Huge Page Backed Memory - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_Huge_Page_Backed_Memory 215 Lower process capabilities - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LowerProcessCapabilities 216 oVirt node - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ovirt_Node 218 Rakudo Perl 6 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Rakudo_Perl_6 221 Virt Privileges - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtPrivileges 222 Virt Storage Management - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtStorageManagement 223 Virt TCK - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtTCK For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mass rebuild for Fedora 12
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Daviddgbo...@comcast.net wrote: Continue to update Fedora 12/Rawhide during the rebuild? Or wait until the rebuild is completed? The rebuild will land all at once as the builds get moved from dist-f12-rebuild to dist-f12. So keep on updating, you'll have one massive update one day :) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESco meeting summary for 20090717
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-17/fedora-meeting.2009-07-17-17.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-17/fedora-meeting.2009-07-17-17.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-17/fedora-meeting.2009-07-17-17.01.log.html 17:01:35 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo meeting - 2009-07-17 17:02:07 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 17:02:16 jds2001 sorry, phone call 17:02:24 * j-rod here 17:02:25 * sharkcz is here 17:02:25 jwb here 17:02:26 jds2001 full agenda :) 17:02:30 * Kevin_Kofler is here. 17:02:31 * nirik is present. 17:02:35 * notting is here 17:02:57 jds2001 alright, without further ado 17:03:11 jds2001 #topic Sponsor nomination - ianweller 17:03:18 jds2001 .fesco 190 17:03:29 * jds2001 saw no objections on the list, but little feedback 17:03:40 jds2001 +1 17:04:15 notting +1 17:04:15 Kevin_Kofler The request is not very high on specifics. 17:04:30 jds2001 though the reviews are a little light, he's helped new packagers in numerous ways. 17:04:31 * skvidal is here but may not be in a moment 17:04:36 Kevin_Kofler But whatever, I saw no objections either, so +1 from me. 17:04:56 sharkcz +1 17:05:13 * j-rod has no strong feeling one way or the other 17:05:14 nirik +1 here. I think it's good he wants to help sponsor people at that POSEE thing perhaps? 17:05:31 jds2001 yeah, that's pretty much the reason. 17:05:40 jds2001 and teaching open source is a great thing. 17:05:45 j-rod +1 17:05:52 jds2001 #agreed ianweller sponsor nomination is approved 17:06:06 jds2001 #topic provenpackager request - jsteffan 17:06:18 jds2001 .fesco 189 17:06:59 nirik I think it's important that packages with non responsive maintainers get responsive ones... 17:07:06 jds2001 yeah, me too. 17:07:17 nirik that said, it's sometimes also good to fix them when they are broken in a more timely manner. 17:07:24 Kevin_Kofler As long as somebody fixes them, who cares whether they're officially the maintainers? 17:07:47 jds2001 well, they dont directly get bug reports, for one. 17:07:49 nirik Kevin_Kofler: because then bugs go unanswered, no one is watching upstream for updates or fixes, or in general being a maintainer. 17:07:49 jwb urgh. phone. need to drop off for a minute 17:08:25 nirik drive by fixes are great if the problem needs fixing, but long term we need maintainers, not a bunch of people driving around tweaking things as they notice them. at least IMHO. 17:08:33 nirik in any case +1 to this request for me. 17:08:50 Kevin_Kofler +1 to the request from me as well. 17:08:54 j-rod +1 17:09:00 jds2001 +1 here too, but get responsive maintainers :) 17:09:11 jds2001 request comaintainership if you have to. 17:09:16 * nirik was just trying to note that lots of provenpackager requests seem to say 'I want to fix unresponsive packages' which is fine, but we should urge people to get them responsive maintainers also. 17:09:31 jds2001 yeah, they need good TLC :) 17:09:35 Kevin_Kofler jds2001: The problem is that the nonresponsive or lazy maintainers usually don't react to ACL requests either. 17:09:46 notting +1 17:09:49 sharkcz +1 17:10:05 jds2001 #agreed jsteffan provenpackager request is approved 17:10:14 nirik Kevin_Kofler: yeah. Need to run the non responsive process, but it's sometimes a lot of hassle. ;( 17:10:21 jds2001 #topic provenpackager request - oget 17:10:29 j-rod +1 17:10:33 sharkcz +1 17:10:34 jds2001 +1 17:10:43 notting +1 17:10:48 nirik +1 17:10:49 Kevin_Kofler +1 17:10:57 jds2001 #agreed oget provenpackager request is approved. 17:11:38 jds2001 #topic volume_key bundled cryptsetup 17:11:58 jds2001 so we know a little more than last week 17:12:14 nirik I think with the additional info and the fact that this is going to be temp and upstream knows whats going on, I'd be ok with approving it. 17:12:26 jds2001 do I take the comments in the ticket to mean the API won't change? 17:12:30 jds2001 do we know if the new upstream release will be in time for F12? 17:12:42 notting ticket #? 17:12:50 jds2001 oops 17:12:51 Kevin_Kofler https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/175 17:12:55 jds2001 .fesco 175 17:13:41 notting so, it implies the api/abi of the 'upstream' version might change 17:14:02 nirik but volume_key will be the only user (internal) of the api from now. 17:14:04 notting but no ETA 17:14:17 abadger1999 Eh... knowing that mitr and mbroz are working from the same office and that cryptsetup can update in mid-Fedora release despite having API/ABI changes makes the bundling a bit more acceptable. 17:14:34 * nirik nods. 17:14:37 Kevin_Kofler I believe it will be fairly easy to fix volume_key to use the final API if it has to change (and it might not even have to change). 17:14:40 * sharkcz also nods 17:15:21 jds2001 +1 here 17:15:32 * jds2001 wants to see it gone by f13, though. 17:15:35 sharkcz +1 17:15:39 abadger1999 I don't like mitr's original reasoning but these later
Re: Bugzilla bot account / Fedora mail alias
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: Btw. I just remembered which bot bugzilla account already exists: ftbfs - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/view/ftbfs There seems to be no mailing list involved, too. Nah, I don't much care if no one cares to see the mail. ftbfs goes to /dev/null pretty much (actually to ft...@domsch.com). I can create the requested alias, and you can create a bugzilla account with it. It needs no special permissions to file bugs (which is all it should be doing). ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Bugzilla bot account / Fedora mail alias
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: Btw. I just remembered which bot bugzilla account already exists: ftbfs - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/view/ftbfs There seems to be no mailing list involved, too. The alias is created - it's just a mail alias, not a full FAS account. You'll have to make a Bugzilla account with that mail address, and that's it! :). It may take up to 30 minutes to be live, though. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Plan for Friday's (20090717) FESCo meeting
I know this is a little early, but I'm going to try to get the agenda out by Wednesday evening in the future. At any rate, here's the plan for Friday's meeting, at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net: 190 application for packaging sponsor - ianweller 189 Consideration for provenpackager - jsteffan 192 provenpackager self-nomination: oget 175 Exception to link against bundled copy of crypsetup in volume_key 186 Yum langpack plugin - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin 191 Proposal: Classifying the AudioVideo/Multimedia desktop menu 193 Anaconda MDRaid - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/MDRaid 194 ABRT F12 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ABRTF12 195 Gnome 2.28 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome2.28 196 KVM NIC Hotplug - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_NIC_Hotplug 197 noarch subpackages - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoarchSubpackages 198 Rebootless Installer - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RebootlessInstaller 199 SR-IOV - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SR-IOV 200 libguestfs - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libguestfs For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Bugzilla bot account / Fedora mail alias
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: How about the alias upstream-release-monitoring? Please forward it to cnucnu.fedora till name with '@' and '.' added. I'd personally prefer to make a mailing list for this, rather than put the point of failure on a single person (again). Also, have you filed an RFR to get this hosted in Fedora? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: Probably and afaik the original author also planned to do so. Unluckily the code that handled the bugzilla tickets is afaik not publicly available, therefore this needs to be rewritten. What language is it written in? Should be easy to implement using python-bugzilla assuming it's written in python. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-10
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-10/fedora-meeting.2009-07-10-17.00.html Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-10/fedora-meeting.2009-07-10-17.00.log.html Log below as well 17:00:44 jds2001 #startmeeting FESCo meeting 2009-07-10 17:00:45 jds2001 #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler 17:00:53 jds2001 FESCo meeting ping -- dgilmore, jwb, notting, nirik, sharkcz, jds2001, j-rod, skvidal, Kevin_Kofler 17:00:53 * nirik is here. 17:00:58 * sharkcz is here 17:01:01 * notting is here 17:01:02 * Kevin_Kofler is here. 17:01:04 j-rod here 17:01:14 * dgilmore is here 17:01:37 jds2001 alright, full agenda today 17:01:52 jds2001 #topic whot provenpackager application 17:01:57 jds2001 .fesco 178 17:02:06 * jwb is here 17:02:18 jwb +1 to whot 17:02:22 sharkcz +1 17:02:26 jds2001 I didn't see any objections on the list, +1 17:02:34 j-rod +1 17:02:43 Kevin_Kofler +1, no objections from me nor have I seen any from the sponsors 17:02:48 nirik +1 here. 17:02:54 dgilmore +1 i guess 17:02:59 notting +1 17:02:59 Kevin_Kofler I'd have liked more positive feedback, but we can't have everything. 17:03:18 jds2001 Kevin_Kofler: that's about normal what we got. 17:03:38 jds2001 #agreed whot provenpackager membership is approved 17:03:50 jds2001 #topic critical path packages 17:03:55 jds2001 .fesco 171 17:04:20 jwb jds2001, we approved this, so we're just re-reviewing? 17:04:24 * jds2001 honestly didnt have time to look at what changed. 17:04:30 Kevin_Kofler So we just approved this last time and now it's up again? 17:04:33 jds2001 jwb: skvidal put it back on the agenda. 17:04:38 Kevin_Kofler Well, what's new is that there's now an actual list of packages. 17:04:46 Kevin_Kofler Which should have been there BEFORE we approved this in the first place. 17:05:11 * jds2001 not sure of what we do from here 17:05:14 jds2001 skvidal: ping 17:05:25 jds2001 is there something to do with this? 17:05:26 jwb i disagree with the BEFORE statement, but we already hashed that out last time 17:05:33 Kevin_Kofler The obvious absent from this list is a @critical-path-kde group. 17:05:46 jds2001 Kevin_Kofler: the KDE SIG needs to make that. 17:05:54 jds2001 and they're more than welcome to. 17:06:02 Kevin_Kofler I propose that the creation of a @critical-path-kde should be delegated to KDE SIG and will be taken up in the next KDE SIG meeting (probably July 21). 17:06:02 jwb Kevin_Kofler, it is absent, yes. so is the XFCE and any other spin group. which are defined by those SIGs 17:06:10 * nirik has toyed with doing a Xfce one... 17:06:18 jwb Kevin_Kofler, that was already in the proposal we approved 17:06:23 jwb you don't need to re-propose it 17:06:38 Kevin_Kofler Well, then what are we voting over? 17:06:42 nirik is it expected that @critical-path* groups all are under the same scrutiny? 17:06:45 Kevin_Kofler Should we just move on? 17:06:48 * jds2001 was wondering the same thing. 17:06:59 jds2001 yeah, we have a full schedule 17:07:01 jds2001 NEXT! 17:07:10 nirik yeah, next. 17:07:26 jds2001 #topic bundling of cryptsetup with volume_key 17:07:37 jds2001 .fesco 175 17:07:47 Kevin_Kofler +1 to allowing this, for the reasons I gave in the comments. 17:07:54 * mitr waves 17:08:02 Kevin_Kofler We can't require linking against a system version which doesn't exist yet. 17:08:08 jds2001 -1, it needs to go in it's own package. 17:08:26 dgilmore -1 17:08:27 jds2001 cryptsetup1.1 or the like. 17:08:37 mitr jds2001: That only adds work and does not help anything - it would still be me who maintains that package. 17:08:38 * skvidal apologizes for his lateness - flaky network 17:08:43 j-rod Get the system ver up to snuff instead 17:08:44 Kevin_Kofler Why? As long as there's no other user, what's the benefit? 17:08:50 skvidal I was not able tpo get to my irc proxy 17:08:56 dgilmore Kevin_Kofler: it needs to make it a system version 17:09:17 Kevin_Kofler That's the plan, but it needs time to get into cryptsetup upstream with a supportable API. 17:09:25 nirik mitr: is there urgency in getting this in? or can it not just wait for the update from upstream? 17:09:31 Kevin_Kofler Adding random APIs to system libraries isn't that great an idea. 17:09:43 j-rod Fwuw, the name volume_key is... Suboptimal... 17:09:45 notting i would strongly prefer we not ship something that requires a fork, if upstream is actively working on the functionality 17:09:57 jwb notting, agreed 17:10:02 jds2001 yeah, i thought it was something for adjusting sound or something. 17:10:05 mitr nirik: I don't know eactly when new cryptsetup will be released (~10 work items), and volume_key package is necessary to develop dependencies (anaconda in particular) 17:10:13 * nirik just wonders what the hurry is. Is there some reason to get this in sooner than upstream is willing to add that functionality 17:10:33 Kevin_Kofler See mitr's comments in the Trac item. 17:10:38 nirik mitr: is upstream
New meeting logging facility available
This evening, Kevin Fenzi and I finished the integration of the supybot plugin MeetBot into our beloved zodbot (for those that don't know, zodbot is a very useful bot on the freenode IRC network, which provides a number of services for Fedora contributors). This plugin was developed by our friends over at Debian, who are using it to record their meetings as well. We would like all Fedora meetings to be recorded using this mechanism, such that there's one format for all of the logs. Complete documentation can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot, and a summary of important commands is below. Some limitations right now are that it does not post to the wiki, it only logs to flat files on the server hosting zodbot. These files are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org - the format (as of this evening) for the layout of these files is channel/date/time-based filename.. This plugin will work in any channel in which zodbot is present. If your team would like zodbot in your channel (it should be in most already), ping ricky, jds2001 (me), or nirik in #fedora-admin and we'll get him right over there! Some important commands: #startmeeting topic - this starts a meeting about whatever topic you provide. The person running this command is automatically given chair powers. #chair - provide a space separated list of chairs for the meeting. These all have equal powers. You may not need more than one. #topic - this sets the sub-topic for the meeting - i.e. what you're talking about that moment. This is used to organize the minutes. Only a chair can use this command. #agreed - this command can be used by chairs in order to denote something that was agreed upon during the meeting #action - this records an action item from the meeting. If a nick is present, it is assigned to that person in the minutes (note - it only knows about nicks which have spoken to that point. For instance, if I weren't at the meeting and you just assigned an action item to me, it wouldn't come out that way in the minutes. The workaround for this would be to use #nick to make the nick known). #endmeeting - ends the meeting and prints URL's to the logs and minutes of the meeting. As always, feel free to let me know if you have questions or problems using zodbot! Thanks! -Jon -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090710) FESCo meeting
Following are the topics to be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on freenode: 178 Application for provenpackager - whot 171 Critical Path Package Proposal 175 Exception to link against bundled copy of crypsetup in volume_key 177 Are the Adobe CMap files in ghostscript poppler-data code or content? 179 Anaconda FCoE - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/FCoE 182 KDE 4.3 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE43 184 VirtGPXE - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtgPXE 186 Yum langpack plugin - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin 66 MinimalPlatform - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MinimalPlatform 174 NetworkManager Mobile Broadband F12 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MoreNetworkManagerMobileBroadband 180 Extended Lifecycle - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle 181 FedoraMoblin - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraMoblin 183 Open Sharedroot - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Opensharedroot 185 XI2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XI2 187 virtio Serial - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/VirtioSerial For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
zodbot minor issue
There's a minor issue with the supybot-based config of MeetBot. Until it can be resolved, it's important that zodbot be started with it's cwd in /srv/web/meetbot. Weird, yes. But effective at making it work :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: $foobar update
2009/7/7 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: Ironically enough my first attempt to send this never went through either. No notification it was put under moderation either. ~m It probably just goes straight to /dev/null if you got no notification :( -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fwd: Last call for F9 updates
Please see below from our fabulous releng team! -- Forwarded message -- From: Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:24 PM Subject: Last call for F9 updates To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com F9 will be EOL'd very very soon. This is probably the last call for updates to F9. I wouldn't bother with updates-testing, as the time required to properly get those pushed out and have feedback from them is longer than the EOL date. That does not mean to push untested stuff straight to stable. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Jos Vosj...@xos.nl wrote: I don't completely agree that desktops tend to need to run the latest and greatest (when we're talking about business desktops), but desktops I don't agree with that position either - note my work laptop, which unfortunately runs Windows. However, just to make a point, it runs Windows XP Pro, and Office 2003 - hardly the latest and greatest that Microsoft has to offer. A RHEL 5 desktop would provide me similarly aged (or newer) software. RHEL/CentOS also gets hardware enablement throughout it's lifecycle, so the newer laptops need newer software only holds true through the beginning of the Production 2 support phase at minimum, by which time the next release of RHEL should be available (for RHEL 5, this date is 3/31/2011) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mass-Package Orphanage
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Nigel Jonesd...@nigelj.com wrote: PHP Based Packages: php-pecl-json -- PECL library to implement JSON in PHP Got this one since it's a dependency for the MW stuff below. ] Mediawiki Related: mediawiki-Cite -- An extension to provide Citation tools for Mediawiki mediawiki-SpecialInterwiki -- An extension to provide an interwiki management system And these, we use them in Fedora Infrastructure. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
No FESCo meeting for 2009-07-03
Due to the US holiday, FESCo will not hold it's regularly scheduled meeting tomorrow. All business will be postponed until next week. Have a great 4th if you're in the US, and if you're anywhere else, have a great 4th anyway! :) -Jon -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: pkgdb - bugzilla sync broken?
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Michael Schwendtbugs.mich...@gmx.net wrote: How often is bugzilla.redhat.com updated with changes in Fedora pkgdb? It has yet to sync the audacious* ownership changes from June 29th. Perhaps it's broken? It is. Toshio has a change that should be live in the next hour or so that fixes it. python-bugzilla changed between 0.3.x and 0.5 causing it to break. To directly answer the question, it happens once an hour :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Cleanup of func step 1
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Mike McGrathmmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: check smtp-mm1. I'm not sure of it's status. smtp-mm1 is the first box of three at various locations that will serve as SMTP frontends to our mailman instance that runs on collab1. This one is at Telia. It doesn't appear to be up right at the moment, but it also isn't hurting anything by being in that state :) Dennis and I will be working more on these this weekend. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Adam Millermaxamill...@gmail.com wrote: If it is official, I think it should at least get placed on the same web page as the gnome/default one like it used to. We're well aware that the current download page is deficient. The design team is actively working to correct that - it's very newbie oriented at this point, and harder if you know what you want. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090626) FESCo meeting
Following are the topics up for discussion at tomorrow's FESCo meeting at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on freenode: 170 Rename Desktop live image to GNOME live image 171 Critical Path Package Proposal 172 Better Webcam Support for F12 -https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupportF12 173 DisplayPort - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DisplayPort 174 NetworkManager Mobile Broadband F12 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MoreNetworkManagerMobileBroadband For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [PATCH RFC] hosted-setup.sh: Automate trac-admin initenv
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Todd Zullingert...@pobox.com wrote: This avoids the need for prompting for values that can easily be determined from the project name and the new REPOSTYPE argument. This could be further improved to call a script to setup the repository and any mailing lists. Sounds good, I would have done this awhile ago if I would have been smart enough to know that initenv accepted those arguments (or likely bothered to look at the documentation) :) Since you and I are probably the only ones handling requests, this is probably good to commit to puppet. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [PATCH RFC] hosted-setup.sh: Automate trac-admin initenv
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Todd Zullingert...@pobox.com wrote: I need to bone up on the bzr and hg repo creation and refresh my memory on svn. Ideally, those can be conveniently scripted as well, and driven automatically by an expanded hosted-setup script. :) There are existing scripts to setup those in /usr/local/bin as well :) I think that the holy grail here would be a webapp, via which people in cla_done could request a hosted project, it would go into a sort of moderation queue whereby someone in sysadmin-hosted could say yay or nay, and the project gets automagically created. Highly unfortunately, my TG knowledge is non-existent and my design abilities are nil, so I don't think that I'm the right person to write such a thing, but I'd certainly be willing to learn TG and assist. Suggested starting points for the TG edjumication? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Travelling
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Mike McGrathmmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: I'll be in Chicago all week this week. I have comcast so the internet is ok, but there will likely be periods that I am disconnected :) So long as the cable goes out during Cubs games, that's all good :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Is there a way to automatically update a wiki page?
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:56 PM, susmit shannigrahithinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Great!!! I never knew about this :) Thanks. And it didn't work until Ricky made the mediawiki-unbroken package. Thanks again Ricky! :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Fedora 9 End Of Life (EOL)
With the release of Fedora 11 now past us, it's come time to remind folks that per the release policy, maintenance for the N-2 Fedora release ends one month after the Fedora N comes out. In this case, since Fedora 11 just came out, that means that the end of life for Fedora 9 will be 2009-07-10. After this point, no new updates, including security updates, will be available for Fedora 9. We strongly urge folks to upgrade to Fedora 11 in order to experience the best and latest that Fedora has to offer. So without delay, go get your copy of Leonidas today from http://get.fedoraproject.org and enjoy the latest version of Fedora! -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
REMINDER: End of life of Fedora 9
Hey folks - Just a reminder that the end of life date for F9 was set at 2009-07-10 at last week's FESCo meeting. This means that as of this date, no new builds will be allowed in koji, and no updates will be pushed. Due to the July 4 holiday in the US, however, we recommend getting any last F9 updates in prior to the 4th. If there are push issues towards the end, there's no guarantee that we'll be able to get all of them in. New branches for F-9 were not allowed after the release date of Fedora 11, just a reminder. Thanks! -Jon ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-12
Here's the minutes and IRC log of today's FESCo meeting Minutes: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/fedora-meeting/2009/fedora-meeting.2009-06-12-17.01.html Log: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/fedora-meeting/2009/fedora-meeting.2009-06-12-17.01.log.html -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090612) FESCo meeting
Here's a list of topics for tomorrow's FESCo meeting, taking place in #fedora-meeting on freenode at 17:00UTC. 160 Announce EOL date for F-9 162 Milestone Adjustment Proposal 161 Proposal for fedora-release version-release naming for rawhide For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Ambassadors] Attendees needed for Fedora 11 Retrospective on Tuesday June 16, 2009 @ 14:00 UTC
Mike - The whole thing here is that you need to have an *additional* person there. So we need another infrastructure person to volunteer to attend. On 6/11/09, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, John Poelstra wrote: Hi Infrastructure Team, At your earliest convenience please fill the name of the additional person from your team that would like to attend the Fedora 11 Retrospective. This meeting will be a conference call to talk about the good and not so good of the Fedora 11 release cycle in with the hope that we can make Fedora 12 even better! If the team lead is not able to attend please substitute another person on the sign-up page below so that there are two people from each team. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Retrospective I'll be there. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Google releases Page Speed
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Mike McGrathmmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: I'm a might busy with things at the moment, anyone on the list want to use this tool on our websites and do a review? (Of both the tool and our sites?) The tool is pretty cool, but I'm not much of a web developer. So far, I've ran it against http://fedoraproject.org, and it came up with some seemingly good suggestions. These are the only two it classified as big wins, the other stuff is minor (some inefficient CSS as item 3, for example) 1) We're not gzipping content going to the browser. On the main page: Compressing the following resources with gzip could reduce their transfer size by about two thirds (~11.8kB). * Compressing http://fedoraproject.org/static/css/fedora.css could save ~7.2kB. * Compressing http://fedoraproject.org could save ~3.5kB. * Compressing /en/static/js/release-counter.js could save ~1.1kB. 2) Caching parameters for browsers are not optimal (some of these suggestions we obviously can't follow, but we can others): The following resources are missing a cache expiration. Resources that do not specify an expiration may not be cached by browsers. Specify an expiration at least one month in the future for resources that should be cached, and an expiration in the past for resources that should not be cached: * /en/static/js/release-counter.js * http://fedoraproject.org/static/css/fedora.css * http://fedoraproject.org/static/css/print.css The following cacheable resources have a short freshness lifetime. Specify an expiration at least one month in the future for the following resources: * http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/arrow.png * /static/images/border-left.png * /static/images/border-right.png * fedora11-countdown-banner-4.en.png * /static/images/f10launch.png * /static/images/fedora-logo.png * /static/images/line-bottom.png * http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/line.png Favicons should have an expiration at least one month in the future: * http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/favicon.ico 3) The inefficient CSS warning I was talking about earlier: http://fedoraproject.org/static/css/fedora.css has 6 very inefficient and 24 inefficient rules of 116 total rules. Very inefficient rules (good to fix on any page): * #content .roles a:hoverTag key with 2 descendant selectors and hover pseudo selector * #content p.warning aTag key with 2 descendant selectors and Class overly qualified with tag * #content ul#resources aTag key with 2 descendant selectors and ID overly qualified with tag * #content ul#resources liTag key with 2 descendant selectors and ID overly qualified with tag * .toolbar *Universal key with descendant selector * #content div.login *Universal key with 2 descendant selectors and Class overly qualified with tag Inefficient rules (good to fix on interactive pages): * #head h1 aTag key with 2 descendant selectors * .home #nav-home aTag key with 2 descendant selectors * .get #nav-get aTag key with 2 descendant selectors * .join #nav-join aTag key with 2 descendant selectors * .help #nav-help aTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content table thTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content table thTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content table tdTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .download liTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .download aTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .roles liTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .roles aTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #footer a:hoverTag key with descendant selector and hover pseudo selector * #content #sponsors liTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content #sponsors li imgTag key with 3 descendant selectors * .downloadbox li liTag key with 2 descendant selectors * .download-block p imgTag key with 2 descendant selectors * .download-sidebar a:hoverTag key with descendant selector and hover pseudo selector * #content .panel h3Tag key with 2 descendant selectors * #login-box .field labelTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .login h3Tag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .login inputTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .login labelTag key with 2 descendant selectors * #content .login ulTag key with 2 descendant selectors ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting
Well, I have nothing on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting at this point. Thus, the entire meeting taking place at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting will be an open floor, unless someone comes up with something to discuss between now and then :). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: remove old video torrents
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Nigel Jones nigjo...@redhat.com wrote: Also note, you need to send some of the steaks to Australia... And some to NYC. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Statistics problem
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
Nope.
To be more specific, this is all we have in the logs for yesterday from proxy1:
[jstan...@log1 http]$ cat download.fedoraproject.org-access.log | awk
'{print $9}' | sort -n | uniq -c
23872 302
24961 404
31 503
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Re: Statistics problem
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: uniq-ing the IP addresses doing the downloading. That method has the potential to cut out legitimate, repetitive downloads from inside a firewall. I'd feel better cutting those ticks out if they were I'm not sure if you can see this in our logs or not (you might have to have the individual mirrors logs :( ), but if the response code is a 206, that means it was a RANGE request - to download part of a file. It's not at all uncommon for a download manager to open 20-30 connections to download the same file for the same user., So I'd opt for the conservative approach of uniques as well. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: I want to change a TRAC's workflow.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: 1. Does all the trac use same trac.ini? I can find only one trac.ini by $locate No, there are some global settings, but most stuff is in /srv/web/trac/project/conf/trac.ini If not, where is the particular trac.ini file stored? And do I have access to it or should I file a ticket? Anyone in sysadmin-hosted has access to change this for you (the files are owned by apache so that the web admin plugin can make changes to them. I looked in the web interface and I don't see a way to change this particular thing though) However, looking at the trac documentation, customizable workflows were introduced in 0.11. We''re currently running Trac 0.10. So this may not even be possible with what we currently have.There's currently a request to upgrade to 0.11, but that's a fairly non-trivial task for an installation of 250+ projects :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Using Fedora as a base for some custom appliance.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Fabian Deutsch fabian.deut...@gmx.de wrote: The questions is not about how the closed-sourced-components are linked, but more about, whether we can use fedora as a base or not. IANAL, but this usage is permissible, provided that you use the secondary mark (or some other trademark) for the final product, and follow all of the other requirements in that section. ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: Logs from f-peeps
2009/4/1 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com: Some of the recent Test Day live images were hosted from fedorapeople.org space. I'd like to find out how many downloads there were of these images, but I can't read /var/log/httpd on that host (which makes sense). Are those logs supposed to be separate? If so, I probably need some help with this request and can file a ticket. If not, well I can still file a ticket. :-) I need to fix fedorahosted not reporting in awstats (since the logs aren't on log1). I'll fix people1 at the same time if no one objects. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
[Change Request] Make sure inactive accounts can't auth to other webapps
--- configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb |1 + configs/web/balancer.conf.erb |1 + configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb |1 + configs/web/exclude.conf.erb|1 + 4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb b/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb index e845f48..4c04ccc 100644 --- a/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb +++ b/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb @@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ ScriptAlias /tac.cgi /usr/lib64/nagios/cgi-bin/tac.cgi Auth_PG_pwd_table people Auth_PG_uid_field username Auth_PG_pwd_field password + Auth_PG_whereclause and status='active' require valid-user /Location diff --git a/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb b/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb index eae1fb4..81212db 100644 --- a/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb +++ b/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ RewriteRule ^/balancer.*/balancer$1 [L] Auth_PG_pwd_table people Auth_PG_uid_field username Auth_PG_pwd_field password + Auth_PG_whereclause and status='active' Auth_PG_grp_table user_group Auth_PG_grp_user_field username Auth_PG_grp_group_field groupname diff --git a/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb b/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb index f5b909c..3178fb2 100644 --- a/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb +++ b/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ Auth_PG_pwd_table people Auth_PG_uid_field username Auth_PG_pwd_field password + Auth_PG_whereclause and status='active' require valid-user diff --git a/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb b/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb index fd87430..d98dd37 100644 --- a/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb +++ b/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb @@ -19,6 +19,7 @@ Auth_PG_pwd_table people Auth_PG_uid_field username Auth_PG_pwd_field password + Auth_PG_whereclause and status='active' require valid-user Order deny,allow deny from all -- 1.5.5.6 ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth
Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql. Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. Some +1's? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth
Oops, there's one more: diff --git a/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf b/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf index 3cabd5b..9486d2e 100644 --- a/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf +++ b/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf @@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ ScriptAlias /prewikka /usr/share/prewikka/cgi-bin/prewikka.cgi Auth_PG_pwd_table people Auth_PG_uid_field username Auth_PG_pwd_field password + Auth_PG_whereclause and status='active' Auth_PG_grp_table user_group Auth_PG_grp_user_field username Auth_PG_grp_group_field groupname 2009/3/21 Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org: On 2009-03-21 08:59:24 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql. Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. Some +1's? We tested this out on hosted1 with active and inactive accounts, so: +1 Thanks, Ricky ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Hosted requests
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: Hey all, there's a lot of outstanding fedorahosted requests. Some are assigned and have been left uncommitted for some time. Just following up with everyone to make sure they don't get forgotten about. if you're in the sysadmin-hosting group and cannot complete these requests any longer please let me know or unassign them so they don't go uncompleted. I'll go through em tonight, I've been slacking off. :) ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Hosted requests
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jon Stanley jonstan...@gmail.com wrote: I'll go through em tonight, I've been slacking off. :) Yay! We're down to 7, all long term type things: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopenedcomponent=Hosted+Projectsorder=iddesc=1 ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
New FAQ item on fedorahosted
I just added some functionality to fedorahosted tonight that I'd like in the FAQ (right below the releases one): Q: But /releases/m/y/myproject is so lame! Isn't there something better? (particularly to use in Source0 of a Fedora spec file)? A: There is. https://fedorahosted.org/released/projectname will go to the same place. The disadvantage of this is you must know the project name and can't browse for projects. Some wordsmithing might be needed, but the gist is clear :) -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Change Request -- high risk, high reward
I'm out, sorry for the top post. But zodbot FAS routines are not functional due to this, so I'd be +1 here if I had a vote :) On 3/14/09, Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 2009-03-14 05:36:27 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Ricky and I have both looked at the code in fas/safasprovider.py::SaFasIdentity and think that it's safe to cache this. The TG-1.0.8 saprovider on which safasprovider is based does not cache this but I've looked at the code and it seems like their provider only uses the variable in question a maximum of two times during a request. The CSRF protection that we've enabled needs to use this variable more often. Here's the code: --- a/fas/safasprovider.py +++ b/fas/safasprovider.py @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): def __init__(self, visit_key=None, user=None, using_ssl=False): self.visit_key = visit_key +self._visit_link = None if user: self._user = user if visit_key is not None: @@ -201,9 +202,13 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): ### TG: Same as TG-1.0.8 def _get_visit_link(self): '''Get the visit link to this identity.''' +if self._visit_link: +return self.visit_link I already mentioned this to Toshio, but this line should be changed to return self._visit_link if self.visit_key is None: -return None -return visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visit_key).first() +self._visit_link = None +else: +self._visit_link = visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visi t_key).first() +return self._visit_link visit_link = property(_get_visit_link) If we were outside of freeze, I would apply this as it is causing issues for some of the things that talk to fas (like zodbot and developer instances of pkgdb). +1 As Toshio mentioned, we've looked at the places where this variable is used, and it should be safe (and easy to revert otherwise). This will be a giant performance improvement for code where we call filter_private on a lot of users (which is a lot of places). Thanks, Ricky -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
