Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:31 +1030, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 17:40 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: The best approach is usually to identify your own change, make the same change in the .rpmnew file, then mv the .rpmnew file into place. What about SELinux issues when you mv instead of create new files? I conjecture that it's not a problem in this case, as the perms are the same for the new and old files: $ ls -lZ /etc/login.defs* -rw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 /etc/login.defs -rw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 08:28 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:31 +1030, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 17:40 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: The best approach is usually to identify your own change, make the same change in the .rpmnew file, then mv the .rpmnew file into place. What about SELinux issues when you mv instead of create new files? I conjecture that it's not a problem in this case, as the perms are the same for the new and old files: $ ls -lZ /etc/login.defs* -rw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 /etc/login.defs -rw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew Should also have pointed out that running restorecon after mv would solve any such problems, at least for these system files. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:08 +0100, Jan Litwiński wrote: G'day steve, * steve networ...@cox.net [100107 15:56] wrote: I am building a new FC12 system intended for MythTV which needs the acceleration provided by the drivers for my nvidia video card. After following the advice here http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=232 I think I have them installed properly, but I only say that because X works after the install. Is there some kind of test that will tell me for sure if these drivers are functioning properly and providing the video services they’re supposed to? glxgears ? The default configuration for the nvidia driver displays a splash screen on startup with the nvidia brand name. If you see that, you're good. Also look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the name of the driver that loaded. Also, lsmod should show the nvidia kernel module. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 09:56 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/8 steve networ...@cox.net: I guess that means I don’t have the drivers installed after all :-) First, make sure you have it installed correctly. If you are running 64 bit and have added the RPMFusion repositories, then run: su -c 'yum install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64' If you're running 32 bit, then add the RPMFusion repo and run: su -c 'yum install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs' This will install required libs and blacklist nouveau driver. If you had kernel based modesetting enabled, then re-build your initial ram disk: su -c 'dracut -f /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)' No need to rebuild. I just installed akmod-nvidia (the 64-bit one) and added rdblacklist=nouveau to the kernel line in /etc/grub.conf. You can add nomodeset, but I didn't need to. This is a 64-bit F12. Update your modules database: su -c 'depmod -ae' Create an nvidia xorg.conf: su -c 'nvidia-xconfig' Didn't need to do these either. Reboot. -c -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 20:02 +, John Austin wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:39 -0600, Dan Burkland wrote: I'm running it just fine on my installation of Fedora 12 x86_64. When I installed my custom kernel (2.6.32.2), I had to do a bit of tinkering to get the network vmci modules to compile/install. You shouldn't have any problems though with the stock Fedora kernels. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:10 PM To: Fedora List Subject: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12? is anyone out there running vmware WS 7 on fedora 12? any gotchas i should know about? i'm downloading the full x86_64 bundle of vmware WS as we speak, but some googling turned up stuff like this: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-10/msg00618.html which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. so ... thoughts? directions? warnings? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Hi Yes running WS 7.0.0 fine on fully updated F12 w2k pro and Windows 7 pro clients I would be very interested in the tweaks needed for 2.6.32 kernel Don't know about that yet, but it's working for me out of the box on up-to-date F12. I had some problem getting my dual-boot WinXP to run virtually, but I can help with that now, if you need it. What I can't seem to do is run vmplayer. I have no idea what that's about. It starts normally, opens a window, then just exits. No crashes, no relevant messages. Not sure what that's about yet. John -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 08:29 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 06Jan2010 09:41, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: | | This normally means that /etc/login.defs was not exactly as it was | | originally installed. | | I didn't change it. Is it possible that a program changed it? | Sure, though I'd imagine unlikely. It might also be a permissions | change; I don't know how picky rpm/yum is about this. | | It's chmoded group and user readable, which is not really necessary | but doesn't change much, I suppose. rpm has some verify options. See the VERIFY OPTIONS section of man rpm. Run it against login.defs and see what's different. $ rpm -qVf /etc/login.defs ... S.5T. c /etc/login.defs ... $ ls -l /etc/login.defs* -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1524 2009-11-29 11:42 /etc/login.defs -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1475 2009-11-18 08:51 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew $ diff /etc/login.defs* 56,57c56,57 # Use MD5 or DES to encrypt password? Red Hat use MD5 by default. MD5_CRYPT_ENAB no --- # Use SHA512 to encrypt password. ENCRYPT_METHOD SHA512 59d58 ENCRYPT_METHOD SHA512 $ rpm -qif /etc/login.defs Name: shadow-utils Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 4.1.4.2 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 2.fc12Build Date: Wed 18 Nov 2009 09:00:37 AM EST Install Date: Tue 05 Jan 2010 07:08:49 PM EST Build Host: x86-5.fedora.phx.redhat.com Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: shadow-utils-4.1.4.2-2.fc12.src.rpm Size: 2700852 License: BSD and GPLv2+ Signature : RSA/8, Thu 26 Nov 2009 02:44:54 AM EST, Key ID 9d1cc34857bbccba Packager: Fedora Project URL : http://pkg-shadow.alioth.debian.org/ Summary : Utilities for managing accounts and shadow password files So the old version is newer than the new version. I've never touched that file, so it's not because the old one was changed from the distribution version (at least not intentionally). -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NetworkManager vs Cacheing nameserver
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 15:24 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:54 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:30:02 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: That seems to be working for the moment, but there's an element of magic in it that makes me nervous. The default named.conf file is set up as a simple cacheing nameserver for local queries, but where does named do its recursive lookups if not from the DHCP service? If you want to add the name servers specified by DHCP to lookups, then you don't want your resolv.conf file to be unmodified, instead you want NM to modify it correctly, like by leaving 127.0.0.1 as one nameserver and adding additional nameservers. sarcasm How to get NM to do this is no doubt described fully in the extensive NetworkManager documentation. /sarcasm Quite. With bind configured as a cacheing server, there is usually a forwarders section in named.conf that points to the DNS servers it should look at. There isn't. This is the default, unmodified named.conf. I've now rebooted to check, and /etc/resolv.conf has again been overwritten by NM, despite the PEERDNS=no line in the ifcfg file, i.e. it has reverted to what it was. NM seems to be calling dhclient with its own private config file, the whereabouts of which are non-obvious. You might want to take this question to the NetworkManager list at gnome.org. The developers hang out there--if it's a bug, they'd probably like to know about it. If it's by design, they can probably explain it. poc -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Compiz fails to start
I tried starting Compiz from the Desktop Effects menu, and I just get a
pop-up saying it failed, then the desktop reverts to Metacity.
I tried from the command line ('compiz --replace') and it seems to
start, but I get no window decorations and the keyboard and mouse clicks
seem to have no effect (mouse cursor moves, but clicking does nothing;
typing does nothing, but ctrl-alt-f2 gets me a VC, where I can
restart X).
This is stock F12, except for the binary nvidia drivers, which are from
RPMfusion. Nouveau drivers don't let me turn on Desktop Effects.
Any suggestions for debugging?
TIA.
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Re: IBM Netfinity 5000
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 19:23 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: I have an old Netfinity 5000 server that used to run WinNT and I'd like to install Fedora on it, any recent version would do (basically, from 10 up). I started with a Fedora 12 DVD and it booted partway ... froze, then the screen said 'Cannot find root partition.' So I decided to try a Fedora 10 disc instead, same result. Tried using an F10 LIVE KDE disk, same thing. It just won't boot up. Hardware wise, it has 2 SCSI drives in it, and an IDE DVD drive. A dual head Matrox card has been put in to replace the original planar video on the board. Any suggestions where I should start diagnosing this beast? Thanks! It sounds like a problem in detecting the DVD drive. Strange, if it is just IDE. I woud try some other Live distribution, just to have more data (does if fail? what kind of controller does it see? ...). Old glorious Knoppyx, for example. Another possibility: Does it boot from CD1 of the CD distro? Once it hangs, can you change VCs (ctrl-alt-F2, etc.)? There's a shell on VC2 and a few different log streams on VCs 3-5. Maybe one will give you a hint. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 15:27 -0800, jdow wrote:
From: TNWestTex mcfo...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Tuesday, 2009/December/22 13:16
Steven Ringwald-3 wrote:
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 15:29 -0600, Mikkel wrote:
My experience with ZIP disks was that if they came formatted, or if
you used the Omega formatting tools, they always had one partition.
What partition was an indication of what system they were formatted
for. Windows was partition 4, Linux was partition 1, and I don't
remember what MAC used. (It might not have used a DOS-type partition
table.)
I also remember removable platter SCSI drives that pre-dated ZIP
drives, but I can not remember what they were called. The didn't have
nearly as much capacity, and the cartridges were larger. I think I
still have a couple in storage somewhere...
I believe you are talking about the IoMega Jaz drive...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iomega_Jaz
Jaz at 1G was a latecomer, Iomega Bernoulli at 44M. several years before
Zip
drives.
Concurrent with Jaz drives were 1.5 GB SyQuest SyJet drives. Superior
technology, IIRC, bigger, faster, more reliable than Jaz. I just took
one out of service in a home machine, though I haven't really used it in
quite a while.
Robert McBroom
And they tripped an interesting chip bug in the Adaptec SCSI chips
that we were using for the Microbotics hard disk controller for Amigas.
That was a bastard to track down until somebody smuggled to me the
Adaptec internal bugs tradeoff sheet for Rev C, D, and E of that chip.
No, none of them had no bugs. It was a tradeoff.
(Otherwise, at the time, that controller and some nice 300 Meg SCSI
drives from a now defunct manufacturer in The Valley (San Fernando)
made for the fastest read and write times on disk tests that anybody
had published for ANY machine mortals could afford.)
{^_^} (Yeah, I'm THAT Joanne Dow.)
Hi, Joanne--haven't seen you around in a while 8^).
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Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:26 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:18 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: We are quite disappointed with my wife's iPhone. Everything is so locked up. A friend of mine jailbroke his iPhone. He can do all sorts of cool stuff including having a terminal and using ssh to log into our lab servers. ;) You don't need to jailbreak to use ssh to log into your lab servers--there's an app (or three) for that. It even does X, and there's a VNC client, too. There's even an app for tn3270 for those of us who still need to talk to IBM mainframes. You do need to jailbreak to log into your iPhone from your lab servers, though... I agree, I don't like how locked up it is, but it does do slick like Apple always does. It looks like Android and some other smartphone OS's will be promising competitors, though. We'll see when my contract expires what the next-gen Droid looks like. btw, Wikipedia says Maemo is Gnome based. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
VMware Workstation with raw disk in F12
I'm trying to work with a dual-boot machine, with VMware Workstation 7, Fedora 12 as the host, and WinXP as the guest. When I define the VM and select the raw disk, VMware configures the disk as SCSI, even though the hardware is SATA. I changed the .vmdk file to make the disk IDE and set the geometry appropriately, but it still doesn't work. ISTR that there are also some changes needed to the .vmx file, but I can't seem to find any reference to it when I google. I have an old configuration (that was working before I made some changes to the disk partitions) that I've tried to extract changes from, but the new version is different enough that I can't tell exactly what I need. Any hints or sources? Thanks. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Workstation with raw disk in F12
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:14 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/17/2009 09:19 AM, Michal wrote: On 17/12/2009 16:49, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I'm trying to work with a dual-boot machine, with VMware Workstation 7, Fedora 12 as the host, and WinXP as the guest. When I define the VM and select the raw disk, VMware configures the disk as SCSI, even though the hardware is SATA. I changed the .vmdk file to make the disk IDE and set the geometry appropriately, but it still doesn't work. ISTR that there are also some changes needed to the .vmx file, but I can't seem to find any reference to it when I google. I have an old configuration (that was working before I made some changes to the disk partitions) that I've tried to extract changes from, but the new version is different enough that I can't tell exactly what I need. Any hints or sources? Thanks. I am confused what the problem is. Yes VMware configures it as SCSI even though it's SATA...it will still work and run with no problems... On Linux, ALL block devices are treated as if they're SCSI. There is no differentiation between IDE, SATA, SAS, fiberchannel, iSCSI, USB, Firewire or true SCSI. Even IDE-based CDROMs show up as /dev/srX. This has been true for a very long time...at least a couple of years and an early 2.6 kernel (2.6.4 rings a bell for some reason). Since VMWare is being hosted by F12, it makes absolute sense why your SATA drive appears to be SCSI. I'm just rather surprised you just found this out. Well, I did know that, actually. The problem is that when configured this way using raw disks, the VM *won't boot*. The configuration that I had working in F11 before the disk rebuild had the controller type changed to IDE because otherwise it doesn't work. BTW, the CD-ROM shows up in VMware as being IDE. I have a grub floppy image that I use as a boot loader for the VM. The boot loader starts and chains to the WinXP loader, then the VM hangs. I should point out that the WinXP system disk was not changed when I repartitioned. The grub on the bare metal machine dual boots just fine. If I replace the controller type in the .vmdk file, I get a message that the controller type is changed. The boot starts, but it bluescreens. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Workstation with raw disk in F12
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 14:06 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:14 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/17/2009 09:19 AM, Michal wrote: On 17/12/2009 16:49, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I'm trying to work with a dual-boot machine, with VMware Workstation 7, Fedora 12 as the host, and WinXP as the guest. So let me ask the question differently. Does anyone have VMware Workstation 7 or equivalent working with an F12 host and a WinXP guest on a raw disk? If so, what did you have to do? Thanks. [nothing new below here] When I define the VM and select the raw disk, VMware configures the disk as SCSI, even though the hardware is SATA. I changed the .vmdk file to make the disk IDE and set the geometry appropriately, but it still doesn't work. ISTR that there are also some changes needed to the .vmx file, but I can't seem to find any reference to it when I google. I have an old configuration (that was working before I made some changes to the disk partitions) that I've tried to extract changes from, but the new version is different enough that I can't tell exactly what I need. Any hints or sources? Thanks. I am confused what the problem is. Yes VMware configures it as SCSI even though it's SATA...it will still work and run with no problems... On Linux, ALL block devices are treated as if they're SCSI. There is no differentiation between IDE, SATA, SAS, fiberchannel, iSCSI, USB, Firewire or true SCSI. Even IDE-based CDROMs show up as /dev/srX. This has been true for a very long time...at least a couple of years and an early 2.6 kernel (2.6.4 rings a bell for some reason). Since VMWare is being hosted by F12, it makes absolute sense why your SATA drive appears to be SCSI. I'm just rather surprised you just found this out. Well, I did know that, actually. The problem is that when configured this way using raw disks, the VM *won't boot*. The configuration that I had working in F11 before the disk rebuild had the controller type changed to IDE because otherwise it doesn't work. BTW, the CD-ROM shows up in VMware as being IDE. I have a grub floppy image that I use as a boot loader for the VM. The boot loader starts and chains to the WinXP loader, then the VM hangs. I should point out that the WinXP system disk was not changed when I repartitioned. The grub on the bare metal machine dual boots just fine. If I replace the controller type in the .vmdk file, I get a message that the controller type is changed. The boot starts, but it bluescreens. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-power-manager
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 22:36 +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 16.12.2009, 22:25 +0100 schrieb François Patte: Bonsoir, I just installed f12 on a Dell latitude D531. I have a pwer applet in task bar, but I have no choice: suspend or hibernate, just preferences. Is there something missing? Thanks. - -- François Patte I have not found this either, but the GNOME shutdown menu provides these commands as well. I installed the gnome-power-manager-extra package, but all it brings back is the battery load statistics. Looks like this just vanished. AIUI, it's settable in some obscure configuration file, but will be gone for good as of Fedora 13. There are enough other ways to get to the command: from the System menu, command line, or by pressing the power button or closing the lid on a laptop. Julian -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Install on new computer keeping OEM OS
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 06:25 +1100, David Timms wrote: On 12/13/2009 05:38 AM, Alan Evans wrote: I just got a brand-new machine with Windows 7 pre-installed on its massive hard drive. Of course, Fedora is more my style, but I'd like to keep the original OS intact and dual boot. My question is this then: How safe is it really to allow the installer to resize the existing partition with Win7 already there? I saw that it had the option, but I was terrified to try it. Some would say partitioning is a process that always requires a backup, hence: - create a compressed backup of the new raw disc onto the old disk - run the resize during install - if it all goes foul, you have learnt how to create and use a backup. That said, I haven't seen anything go wrong with gparted / parted, well ever (in my memory, including expanding and shrinking an xp machine original ntfs drives, to fit linux). I quite often do the non-backed up version of messing with partitions on virtual machines without trouble. gparted indicates support for ntfs shrink. I hate to relate that I just had a very bad experience with resizing and moving an NTFS partition using gparted. While you are probably OK shrinking in place, I'm now with the school that says back up at least the critical stuff before you try a stunt like that, especially on NTFS. Good luck. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Install on new computer keeping OEM OS
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 22:52 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 10:38 -0800, Alan Evans wrote: Hello! I just got a brand-new machine with Windows 7 pre-installed on its massive hard drive. Of course, Fedora is more my style, but I'd like to keep the original OS intact and dual boot. My question is this then: How safe is it really to allow the installer to resize the existing partition with Win7 already there? I saw that it had the option, but I was terrified to try it. I've not had any problems, but if you're unsure, Windows can shrink its own partitions. It's in the Disk Utility or whatever it's called. If you do it that way, be sure to keep a copy of your partition table before you start. I've had Windows Disk Utility blow away non-Windows partitions while doing simple stuff to Windows. (Yes, apparently, I just attract trouble when it comes to disk partitions...) Of course there aren't any non-Win partitions on this installation, but once you are dual booting, beware. Of course you would have to boot it to do that ... poc -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 23:00 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 15:39 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: How do I load mp3s onto my iPhone in F12 ? Executive summary: you can't. Unlike many phones, the iPhone doesn't behave as a simple disk drive. There's no way to mount it, the connection protocol is secret, and Apple have no interest in supporting Linux. You could use a VM running Windows of course, but it needs to be one that supports USB devices (see recent thread on this list). Alternatively, you could jailbreak the phone and copy files using scp. I don't know if the phone will then recognize them as something it can play, but I wouldn't bet on it. Is there a way to use an iPhone as a data modem via Bluetooth ? Tethering can be done on jailbroken phones or on some very limited set of carriers blessed by Apple. Apple and ATT say they will eventually support tethering, but not for a while yet, AFAIK (and it wouldn't surprise me if there was an upcharge). Is there a way to have a Bluetooth phone operate with F12 like it does with Microsoft Sync in a car ? I have no idea what that means. poc -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 20:17 -0500, Ryan Lynch wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 20:13, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote: Well, it means I can have separate filesystems for things that I don't want overwritten if I reinstall (/home, /usr/local, /opt, /var/www, etc.) and I can dynamically resize them if they get unbalanced. That's pretty useful. Out of curiousity, what filesystem do you use to get dynamic shrinking? Sorry if I wasn't clear--by dynamic I didn't mean online, though AFAICT from reading docs, ext filesystems can be resized online. But I can shrink an ext filesystem and the LV that contains it, then expand a different LV and the fielsystem on it, without having to move the partitions so that the space is contiguous. Way more convenient than the alternative. -Ryan -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 13:43 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: Actually, the complexity is that Fedora for some insane reason still defaults to using LVM for everything *other* than /boot. This brings no benefit to most users. Well, it means I can have separate filesystems for things that I don't want overwritten if I reinstall (/home, /usr/local, /opt, /var/www, etc.) That's only 4, or 7 with / , /boot and swap. How do you get up to 15? I don't (for systems with just one Linux installed). Add Windows (two partitions if you want separate system and data disks) and another *nix OS, though, and you're pressing the limit. In any case, the default partitioning doesn't give you 15 partitions, so this seems an odd reason for recommending it. I don't recommend the default because it dumps everything into a single / filesystem, so reinstalling wipes out things that I'd want to preserve. I tend to use LVM for flexibility resizing. I don't spread LVs across devices though. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recent texlive anyone?
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 18:43 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote:
Hi,
has anybody seen some rpm packaging for the current texlive
distribution? Since fedora switched over things look stalled.
http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/
I am asking because I could really use the
\KOMAoption{listof}{leveldown} thing.
(So if anyone knows how to have the same effect in the old version ...)
regards
Christoph
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Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 12:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 05 December 2009, Wayne Feick wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Folderol even. My objection to LVM is two fold. 1. It won't allow one to save things in the /home tree when doing an upgrade or re-install. I have an almost 10GB corpus of email, and several scripts that are needed for my daily operations that need to be preserved. LVM makes that impossible. Can you elaborate? I use LVM on all my systems, and whenever I move to a new Fedora release I carry the old /home tree forward to the new installation. Wayne. And just how do you do that? The last time I tried to save /home, anaconda would not proceed until I checked the format it box. As I'm an alpha test site for amanda, the recovery was doable and was done, but what kind of twisted reasoning gives anaconda the right to demand I destroy my data? Well, nothing (unless it's on a partition that has to be formatted for an install, like /). And I've never had that problem. If /home is a separate LV, in Anaconda, select the PV with the /home LV inside it. You'll have to reset the mount points for all the LVs (an annoyance, to be sure, that I wish could be fixed), but you don't have to format /home (or /opt, or /usr/local, etc.) if it is a separate LV (or if it's on a separate partition). -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 19:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 05 December 2009, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 12:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 05 December 2009, Wayne Feick wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Folderol even. My objection to LVM is two fold. 1. It won't allow one to save things in the /home tree when doing an upgrade or re-install. I have an almost 10GB corpus of email, and several scripts that are needed for my daily operations that need to be preserved. LVM makes that impossible. Can you elaborate? I use LVM on all my systems, and whenever I move to a new Fedora release I carry the old /home tree forward to the new installation. Wayne. And just how do you do that? The last time I tried to save /home, anaconda would not proceed until I checked the format it box. As I'm an alpha test site for amanda, the recovery was doable and was done, but what kind of twisted reasoning gives anaconda the right to demand I destroy my data? Well, nothing (unless it's on a partition that has to be formatted for an install, like /). And I've never had that problem. If /home is a separate LV, in Anaconda, select the PV with the /home LV inside it. You'll have to reset the mount points for all the LVs (an annoyance, to be sure, that I wish could be fixed), but you don't have to format /home (or /opt, or /usr/local, etc.) if it is a separate LV (or if it's on a separate partition). I also tried that once, and convinced it I didn't want it formatted, about FC6 I think. It bought it I thought, till I found it had made a /home directory on /, the proceeded to write the new /home with its defaults. I took a bit of detective work to ascertain that my /home partition still existed, but wasn't ever used and was not in /etc/fstab as a separate entry. Dumb was NOT my comment when I found that. There's always a /home directory on the root filesystem. If you have a separate /home filesystem, the /home directory on the root filesystem is the mount point for the /home filesystem. If the instruction to mount your /home filesystem on the /home directory is not in /etc/fstab, it's because you didn't set the mount point for that filesystem (whether it's a partition or a LV) during installation. (Not that it's clear you need to do that during installation... If you know *nix filesystem structure, you know what's needed, but if not, it's not clear how you find out. I did a fair amount of reading when I first installed RHL 3.0.3!) -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:45 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: I had understood the complexity to be the separate /boot not the use of lvm... Actually, the complexity is that Fedora for some insane reason still defaults to using LVM for everything *other* than /boot. This brings no benefit to most users. Well, it means I can have separate filesystems for things that I don't want overwritten if I reinstall (/home, /usr/local, /opt, /var/www, etc.) and I can dynamically resize them if they get unbalanced. That's pretty useful. Someone else mentioned the limited number of physical and logical partitions. If you want separate partitions for those systems and for, say, separate system and user data on a dual-boot machine with Windows, and multiboot, and a diagnostics partition, those partitions can get used up pretty quickly. (Pet peeve: I wish that /var/www and some other things in /var/lib that I don't want wiped out lived someplace else, like /srv. But I guess that battle's lost...) -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suspend option gone in gnome-power applet
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:52 +, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/11/29 Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu: I'm using the nouveau driver in a fresh F12 installation on a Thinkpad T61. When I click the battery icon on the taskbar, it doesn't show any action choices, such as suspend or shutdown. This was removed in GNOME 2.28.0. For F12 you can enable /apps/gnome-power-manager/ui/show_actions_in_menu in gconf-editor to get them back, but be warned this key won't exist in F13. OK It's not a big deal, I was just surprised by the change. There was a time not too long ago where the nv driver wouldn't suspend properly, so the suspend operation was removed or grayed out (although the nvidia driver worked). With F12 (I am pleased to report), the nouveau driver suspends and resumes perfectly on my T61, so I wanted to make sure it wasn't still incorrectly blacklisted. But is the power history still available? Richard. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Emacs fonts in F12
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 06:41 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 18:35 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: In F11, selecting the same font in Emacs as the system monospace font (in my case, Monospace Regular 7-point) resulted in an Emacs window with a typeface that looked the same as the one in a gnome-terminal. In F21, the same font looks (a) much smaller and (b) more widely spaced than the gnome-terminal font (which looks the same as it did in F11). Any idea what changed in Emacs and how I can get the font I want? TIA. emacs-23 happened. Fonts are MUCH better. Emacs can now use non- bitmapped fonts. Ah, you remind me that I had loaded emacs-23 in F11 from updates- testing (for just this reason). That's why I was able to use the gnome- terminal fonts in the first place. Here's another observation I've made. In the GNOME font selector, switching between Monospace and DejaVu Sans Mono has no effect on the appearance of a gnome-terminal. So my hypothesis is that Monospace is in fact an alias for DejaVu Sans Mono, and Emacs has the correct font designated but is somehow incorrectly getting a different font or is rendering it differently. Any ideas what to try next to debug? Here are some suggestions: 1. (cond ((display-graphic-p) (set-face-attribute 'defaultnil :font DejaVu Sans Mono-9 :slant 'normal :weight 'normal))) In my .emacs file, I have (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:inherit nil :stipple nil :background lightgrey :foreground black :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline nil :underline nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 83 :width normal :foundry unknown :family DejaVu Sans Mono) I did add the :background setting by hand, but the rest is what was saved by Emacs. Does the fact that you have DejaVu Sans Mono-9 and I have DejaVu Sans Mono make a difference? If so, how did you get that string? The -9 is the size. You can pick another if you like. As to how I came up with it, I'm afraid I don't recall. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Emacs fonts in F12
In F11, selecting the same font in Emacs as the system monospace font (in my case, Monospace Regular 7-point) resulted in an Emacs window with a typeface that looked the same as the one in a gnome-terminal. In F21, the same font looks (a) much smaller and (b) more widely spaced than the gnome-terminal font (which looks the same as it did in F11). Any idea what changed in Emacs and how I can get the font I want? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Suspend option gone in gnome-power applet
I'm using the nouveau driver in a fresh F12 installation on a Thinkpad T61. When I click the battery icon on the taskbar, it doesn't show any action choices, such as suspend or shutdown. In F11 (though I was using the nvidia drivers on this machine and I have an ATI on the machine I just checked), left-click showed those actions and right-click showed Preferences and Power history. Am I missing some package? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Emacs fonts in F12
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 18:35 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: In F11, selecting the same font in Emacs as the system monospace font (in my case, Monospace Regular 7-point) resulted in an Emacs window with a typeface that looked the same as the one in a gnome-terminal. In F21, the same font looks (a) much smaller and (b) more widely spaced than the gnome-terminal font (which looks the same as it did in F11). Any idea what changed in Emacs and how I can get the font I want? TIA. emacs-23 happened. Fonts are MUCH better. Emacs can now use non- bitmapped fonts. Ah, you remind me that I had loaded emacs-23 in F11 from updates-testing (for just this reason). That's why I was able to use the gnome-terminal fonts in the first place. Here are some suggestions: 1. (cond ((display-graphic-p) (set-face-attribute 'defaultnil :font DejaVu Sans Mono-9 :slant 'normal :weight 'normal))) In my .emacs file, I have (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:inherit nil :stipple nil :background lightgrey :foreground black :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline nil :underline nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 83 :width normal :foundry unknown :family DejaVu Sans Mono) I did add the :background setting by hand, but the rest is what was saved by Emacs. Does the fact that you have DejaVu Sans Mono-9 and I have DejaVu Sans Mono make a difference? If so, how did you get that string? 2. If you'd like to adjust font size using Ctrl-mouse wheel (like many other apps): (require 'zoom-frm) (global-set-key (kbd C-mouse-5) 'zoom-in) (global-set-key (kbd C-mouse-4) 'zoom-out) For this you'll need: zoom-frm.el frame-fns.el frame-cmds.el You can find them all here: (e.g.) http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/zoom-frm.el This might be cool, but it could also be a major pain. I'll have to give it a try at some point. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash 10.1 beta
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 00:19 +0100, davide wrote: Hi, I tried to install Flash 10.1 from the Adobe website, but even if installed firefox continues using the old one. How should I install it correctly? (http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html) Is your system 32- or 64-bit? It looks like 10.1b is only 32-bit at the moment. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NVIDIA under F12
On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 17:43 +0100, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: Hi, I try to compile latest nvidia drivers for a GEFORCE 8600 GTS under F12, but it doesn't work and the log isn't very verbose. Has anyone succeed to do this ? Have you tried the ones on RPMfusion's updates-testing repo? BR -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
More broken deps for F11 texlive-2009
Latest F11 texlive-2009 update complains about dependencies of the new packages (which have .fc12 version suffixes!) on libpoppler.so.5()(64bit). -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Whatever happened to gnome-keyring-manager?
See Subject. If it's gone, is there any other utility for managing the contents of the keyring? Thanks. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whatever happened to gnome-keyring-manager?
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 21:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/11/2009 09:32 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: See Subject. If it's gone, is there any other utility for managing the contents of the keyring? Seahorse has replaced it. Thanks. I understand why developers go for clever/colorful names for their programs. I'm often tempted myself. But how would I ever have found that without asking? Rahul -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whatever happened to gnome-keyring-manager?
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 02:01 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/12/2009 12:37 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 21:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/11/2009 09:32 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: See Subject. If it's gone, is there any other utility for managing the contents of the keyring? Seahorse has replaced it. Thanks. I understand why developers go for clever/colorful names for their programs. I'm often tempted myself. But how would I ever have found that without asking? Yeah. Good question. The description can be updated to include keywords like keyring so that a yum search would guide you to the right one. Please feel free to file a RFE on that. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536945 Thanks again. Rahul -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SQLite error popup
Recently, I've started to get occasional pop-ups (in GNOME) with the message: SQLite Version Error The application has been updated, but your version of SQLite is too old and the application cannot run. I have no idea what application is being referred to, although it seems to happen in conjunction with either some NetworkManager event or some Evolution crash (both of those seem to happen together with some frequency. I use the Exchange connector in Evolution. Anybody seen this? Anybody have any idea what it might be? TIA. This is an up-to-date F11 system, with a few updates-testing packages. The ones that seem like they might be relevant: sqlite-3.6.12-3.fc11.x86_64 evolution-debuginfo-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-rss-debuginfo-0.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64 evolution-data-server-debuginfo-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-help-2.26.3-1.fc11.noarch evolution-exchange-debuginfo-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-perl-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-mapi-debuginfo-0.26.2-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-spamassassin-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-data-server-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-mapi-0.26.2-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-rss-0.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64 evolution-bogofilter-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-exchange-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.x86_64 -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is my Harddrive failing?
On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 11:39 +, Alan Cox wrote:
Oct 31 08:05:04 merk kernel: res
41/40:00:af:3a:d7/30:00:1e:00:00/00 Emask 0x409 (media error) F
Oct 31 08:05:04 merk kernel: ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
Oct 31 08:05:04 merk kernel: ata1.00: error: { UNC }
That is the drive reporting a bad block yes. Whether it is a one off
failure or the start of a pattern of fails ending in doom is
unfortunately rather harder to tell.
It used to be fairly common for new disks to have a few bad blocks--back
in the dark days of early PCs when disk drive capacities were measured
in tens or low hundreds of megabytes. Then things seemed to improve as
manufacturing techniques improved. When disk capacities were measured
in tens or low hundreds of gigabytes, I don't recall ever encountering a
new drive with bad blocks. Now that capacities have reached the
terabyte range, it seems that a few bad blocks on new drives are once
again less rare.
It would be nice if the monitor software could record the state of a
drive and issue reports when the number of bad blocks increases from the
starting state, rather than insisting that every bad block is a sign of
imminent failure. The persistent false alarm provokes the user to
ignore the monitor or turn it off entirely, thus risking missing a
warning of an imminent real failure.
Alan
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Re: : bash command help - nohup
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 10:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Screen is not an option if you want to set up a long-running job and log out. Why not? That's the first thing I think of when I want to do just that. 'at' also works to start a job not connected to a terminal. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution to MS exchange 2007 via MAPI
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 12:10 +1100, L wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 10/28/2009 07:43 PM, L wrote: I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange. The temporary solution is outlook on XP on VirtualBox, but this is not preferable. I tried evolution-MAPI, it seems tried to connect, unfortunate, MAPI account crashes every single time. Any one have good story to connect Evolution 2.26.3 on F11 to MS exchange 2007. Can you try to convince the exchange folks to enable IMAP? Then you can use Thunderbird or Evolution through an IMAP account. It will function the same, minus contact and calendar syncing. It may even be on already. Try to telnet ip 143 and see if it connects. well, the port is not opened. sent email IT desk. No very hopeful to to convince the exchange folks. Might be worth trying F12 Beta. AFAIK, MAPI connector development is active (I'm sure hoping...), but GNOME folks don't seem very determined to backport updates. When I first tied it, I got persistent crashes, but there was an update that fixed that problem. Now every time I access a folder, it does a complete sync with the host, which is pretty intolerable. There's a patch for that, I believe, but nobody has pulled it back into 2.26.3. Living without calendar and contacts here is not a very attractive alternative. Some other ideas (all of which require sysadmin cooperation): * Use the OWA connector (requires Exchange 2003 OWA compatibility). * Use the Brutus connector (requires a Brutus server running on Windows to manage the actual transactions with Exchange). -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution 2.28 rpm for F11?
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:48 +1100, L wrote: Hi Evolution 2.28 is the current stable version. where to get a rom for F11? The current version for F11 is 2.26. the support for MS exchange is poor. evo-mapi crashes persistently. I'd guess Evo is too tightly integrated into GNOME to update without updating everything. (I think that was said some previous release where the same question was asked.) F12 is out soon... Best Yuandan -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: tex-live
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 08:19 -0400, Kirk Lowery wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.com wrote: On 10/27/2009 12:10 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 11, it is still the version 2007 of tex-live which available. When 2008 is going to be available ? Can I just install it from the tex-live-2008.iso image ? thank As to when, I wish I knew. However, I have installed from the iso, and it puts everything in /usr/local, so its 'safe' to use. This is my experience. If you are a serious tex user, and disk space isn't an issue, it's much more convenient to just install TeXLive completely, rather than to have to know which packages are grouped into which rpm. It's far more convenient than using the Fedora rpms. And more uptodate. And TeXLive 2009 is supposed to be just days away from release, with a decent updater. TeXLive2009 is targeted for Fedora 13. Meanwhile, you can track the major new Fedora packaging initiative and help test here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive. Kirk -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 20:06 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: I need to test my computer with the nouveau driver in order to provide information for a bug report I contributed. Besides, I would like to see how well the open source driver works compared to the proprietary one. So how does one remove the nvidia driver and install the nouveau driver in its place ? The nvidia driver still uses xorg.conf. Run 'livna-config-display --active off' to prevent the starutp script from modifying xorg.conf. Then edit xorg.conf and change the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nouveau'. The reboot. I think that'll do it. I recently started using akmod-nvidia. I suspect that its built and installed an nvidia kernel module. I did a yum remove kmod-nvidia and yum remove akmod-nvidia. I edited xorg.conf and changed nvidia to nouveau, but I did not change any of the module paths. I did a modprobe nouveau. lsmod shows that its there. I did an rmmod -w nvidia in an attempt to uninstall the module. But when I reboot, it still runs. Now what do I do ? Edit xorg.conf ? rmmod ? lsmod ? insmod ? Thanks -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade to2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686.PAE Can I get kmod-nvidia to go with it?
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 08:34 +1000, are...@bigpond.com wrote: __ Just another data point: F11 kmod-nvidia packages from rpmfusion work fine with my GeForce 8300 and my Quadro NVS 140M. Matthew Saltzman Where did you find the F11 kmod-nvidia. I must have found the wrong info. Roger rpmfusion.org -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade to2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686.PAE Can I get kmod-nvidia to go with it?
On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 20:42 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 10/17/2009 07:32 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: I upgraded the kernel. What's the process to get the corresponding matching nvidia driver? Depending on where you got your *last* nvidia driver from (either rpmfusion or atrpms), you should just have to do a yum update. Remember to enable the appropriate repo if you normally disable it though If you are building it yourself, you'll have to rebuild it again Sometimes rpmfusion takes a bit of time to get the updated modules posted. If you install the akmod-nvidia RPM, the module will be rebuilt automatically on booting a new kernel. The regular package will be updated when it appears. atrpms are set up to do something similar. TIA -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade to2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686.PAE Can I get kmod-nvidia to go with it?
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 20:27 +1100, Roger wrote: On 10/18/2009 11:42 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 10/17/2009 07:32 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: I upgraded the kernel. What's the process to get the corresponding matching nvidia driver? Depending on where you got your *last* nvidia driver from (either rpmfusion or atrpms), you should just have to do a yum update. Remember to enable the appropriate repo if you normally disable it though If you are building it yourself, you'll have to rebuild it again I've been through the painful process of getting nvidia drivers to work, it's taken days of experimetnation. I found the repos are dangerous and very difficult to find. Yum could not find kmod-nvidia nor akmod-nvidia but locked up until I manually removed them from repos.d .They don't or didn't for me provide any useful applications and crashed the system. I resorted to downloading the appropriate nvidia driver and finding it only works with certain F10 kernels. http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html NVIDIA-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run worked for me for my 8600GT card Select your driver from the appropriate archive. yum install gcc, make, glibc-headers, uname -r to get the kernel version. rpm -qa kernel-devel rpm -qa kernel-headers If there are mis matches yum search for the correct files yum remove the mismatches and install the good versions. then install from an init 3 terminal. not from X. the NVIDIA-x86-n.run driver will check that you have the headers and devel files to match your kernel. The above is the only way I could get the nvidia driver to work Nvidia drivers do not work with F11 and F12 there are dozens of failure reports on google and I have experimented for days now to solve the problems but am stuck with nouveau graphics which are useless for 3D Blender. Hope this helps Just another data point: F11 kmod-nvidia packages from rpmfusion work fine with my GeForce 8300 and my Quadro NVS 140M. Roger -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: T61 mute button (was Re: T61 no sound with Fedora 11)
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 15:39 -0400, Adam D. Ligas wrote: On 10/01/2009 10:19 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: In fact, on my T61, the mute button is non-functional. I've discovered that turning the volume all the way down turns on the mute indicator in GNOME, but it would be nice if the mute button actually toggled mute the way it's designed to. I'd like to file this as a bug, but I'm not sure what component to file it against. Suggestions welcome. TIA. Interesting - my T61 has a functioning mute button. I think you need to update your BIOS. I got this from the Lenovo ChangLog for the T61 BIOS. - (Fix) (ThinkPad T61/T61p only) Volume and mute buttons on the keyboard do not work on Linux. That was in version 1.26-1.06. They're much beyond that now. Ooh, that's a great idea. I updated, but it didn't help. Forgot to check the version, but dmidecode now reports BIOS 2.38 and Firmware 1.8. Thanks for the suggestion, though. - Adam -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
T61 mute button (was Re: T61 no sound with Fedora 11)
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 11:31 +0800, Yu Lex wrote: yeah, thanks for your input, but I believe I have tried that, not mute physically. Still no sound. In fact, on my T61, the mute button is non-functional. I've discovered that turning the volume all the way down turns on the mute indicator in GNOME, but it would be nice if the mute button actually toggled mute the way it's designed to. I'd like to file this as a bug, but I'm not sure what component to file it against. Suggestions welcome. TIA. 2009/10/1 Ron Siven rsi...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Yu Lex lex.yucai.yu.fed...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, My headphone worked before, however, after some installation and update, I found there was no sound on my T61 any more. I have tried alsamixer -c0 or gst-mixer to unmute all MM stuff, however it did not work. At present, the only thing I can hear is the electronic noisy in my headphone. Could anybody help me? Any comment will be really appreciated!! Thanks in advance. Lex -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution to exchange server
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 14:46 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: I came across this some time back and it may help. http://www.openchange.org/ This is the source of the evolution-mapi plugin currently in F11. We are still on Exchange server 2003 so I can use http://www.saunalahti.fi/juhrauti/index.html Looks like an OK workaround for mail, but apparently won't do calendars, etc. POP and IMAP are turned off in my case. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution to exchange server
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 12:44 +1000, L wrote: MAPI seems get evolution connected to exchange server, but crashed frequently. I'd like try Brutus. How to configure Brutus? In Evolution Account Editor, there is a session 'Brutus Settings', it asks for Exchange email address Window Domian Brutus Server Brutus Server port Can someone explain what are these, in particular the brutus server and port? What I've picked up from the discussion is this: You need to run (or have your Exchange admin run) a Brutus server on a Windows box. The Brutus server connects to Exchange Server via the MAPI interface. You set up Evolution to connect to the Brutus server, and you interact with Exchange via the Brutus middleman. This would be all well and good, except that recently, nobody seems to be able to locate the Brutus developers or find a current download for the server. My guess is that the server is not open source, as the devs would have had to sign an NDA with Microsoft to get up-to-date specs for Exchange MAPI. Whether it's inexpensive enough to run one's own server is another question we can't answer without access to the developers. Does that about sum it up, O more knowledgeable ones? -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution to exchange server
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 23:11 -0400, Mail Llists wrote: On 09/24/2009 10:28 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM, restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or MAPI, resp.) as the server type. You'll need some information about server URLs, which your admins can supply. In particular, the Brutus setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the right port is. I need to connect to exchange 2007 - with no imap. In my experience. a) thunderbird does not work. Correct--no MAPI. no OWA. b) evo with owa does not work (it scrapes things based on older owa) Correct again. c) evo-mapi - kind of reads some mails - but crashes doing almost anything (like copying mails). It also was unable to send any mails to any exchange user - mail stays in outbox - oddly it works perfectly well sending mail to anyone outside address! evo-mapi is probably the future, but it's not there yet. There's a patch in Bugzilla to fix the problem with interminable rescanning, but it hasn't been incorporated yet. I don't know about the other crashes you've experienced--I haven't had a chance to get that far yet. d) evo brutus may be the only chance - tho it may not be active, and i was not able to find the required desktop windows server as i mentioned before. I used to have a link to them, but I don't think it was 42tools.com. Nevertheless, that seems to be where most Web links point to, and there's no reference to it there. i'd really like to get this going ... gene -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution to exchange server
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 18:12 +1000, L wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote: Hi, I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange. The temporary solution is outlook on XP on VirtualBox, but this is not preferable. Any help is great. I think you need to install the exchange plugin with # yum install evolution-brutus -- Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it? I'm not sure how to configure evolution-brutus (I'd like to know, because I'd like to try it), but there are a couple of alternatives to consider as well. * There is an OWA connector called evolution-exchange that works (more or less) with Exchange 2003 server, but not with Exchange 2007. It crashes frequently, but is at least functional most of the time with the somewhat limited features that are provided through OWA. * There is a MAPI connector called evolution-mapi that is supposed to work with Exchange 2007. Right now, it has a but that makes it close to unusable--it rescans the contents of the Inbox (and maybe other folders as well) every time you switch to them. There's a patch in Bugzilla, but there hasn't been a release pushed yet with the patch. The Brutus connector should work with Exchange 2007, but there are some configuration issues. The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM, restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or MAPI, resp.) as the server type. You'll need some information about server URLs, which your admins can supply. In particular, the Brutus setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the right port is. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why does laptop battery show 100% charge
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 09:03 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/9/17 Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu: OK What's the best way to request that? Would it get generated as a consequence of the power manager RFE? Or should I file it separately? Anything special about kernel feature requests? Well, you can file a kernel bug if you want, but it's a fair chunk of new functionality and it's functionality that is very vendor specific as it's not in the ACPI standards. For IBM thinkpads, see http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi Be aware that tpm-smapi was refused entry to the upstream kernel, and probably won't be accepted by the fedora kernel as a result. Consult the kernel.org archives for the full discussion. OK Thanks. That's useful, if a bit disappointing. Richard. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GoogleEarthLinux and Fedora11
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 08:23 +0200, Mogens Kjaer wrote: On 09/18/2009 07:27 AM, Claude Jones wrote: I'm not sure how to continue this investigation - any help appreciated... http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/earth/thread?tid=0ab0ed80ed61cbfchl=en cd /where/googleearth-bin/is/located mv libstdc++.so.6 libstdc++.so.6.saveit mv libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc_s.so.1.saveit So I tried to install and I got: 1. selinux violations, cured by 'chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /opt/google-earth/lib*.so'. 2. The above lib files didn't exist in the install directory. 3. segfault. Log file attached. 4. Attempt to uninstall with the supplied script results in Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting. This is a x86_64 installation. Mogens -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs Major Version 5 Minor Version 1 Build Number 3506 Build Date Sep 8 2009 Build Time 10:07:55 OS Type 11 OS Major Version 2 OS Minor Version 6 OS Build Version 30 OS Patch Version 5 Crash Signal 11 Crash Time 1253274952 Up Time 1.24268 Stacktrace from glibc: ./googleearth-bin[0x805caa6] [0xde2400] /usr/lib/libGL.so.1(glXMakeCurrentReadSGI+0x146)[0x1f9c961] /usr/lib/libGL.so.1(glXMakeCurrent+0x16)[0x1f9cbd4] /opt/google-earth/libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext19internalMakeCurrentEv+0x2c)[0x2734e8c] /opt/google-earth/libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext21internalCreateContextEv+0x152)[0x2735052] /opt/google-earth/libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext4openEv+0x89)[0x27554e9] /opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll13VisualContext11OpenContextEN3Gap3Gfx25igRenderDestinationFormatERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0xfb)[0x2df175b] /opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll13VisualContext4initERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0x167)[0x2df1907] /opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll17RenderContextImpl4initERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0x81)[0x2cfd681] ./librender.so(_ZN12RenderWidget6SetApiEPN5earth4evll3APIE+0x47)[0x2667817] ./librender.so(_ZN5earth6render12RenderWindow12createWidgetEv+0xa7)[0x264e757] ./libgoogleearth_lib.so(_ZN5earth6client12ModuleWidget9showEventEP10QShowEvent+0x94)[0x2b06f4] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent+0x652)[0xf4fcc2] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0xa8)[0xf0b750] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0x126)[0xf133de] ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN16QCoreApplication14notifyInternalEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0x70)[0xc97dd4] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0xcc)[0xf52d30] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x7b)[0xf52acf] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x15c)[0xf52c58] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x42)[0xf52ca6] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x3bb)[0xf532e3] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x146)[0xf52c42] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x42)[0xf52ca6] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x7b)[0xf52acf] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x15c)[0xf52c58] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x42)[0xf52ca6] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x3bb)[0xf532e3] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x146)[0xf52c42] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x42)[0xf52ca6] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x3bb)[0xf532e3] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x146)[0xf52c42] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x42)[0xf52ca6] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x3bb)[0xf532e3] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x146)[0xf52c42] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x42)[0xf52ca6] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x3bb)[0xf532e3] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x146)[0xf52c42] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x42)[0xf52ca6] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x3bb)[0xf532e3] ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10showNormalEv+0x4a)[0xf467d2] ./libgoogleearth_lib.so(_ZN10MainWindow18readScreensizeInfoEv+0xbeb)[0x28c1db] ./libgoogleearth_lib.so(_ZN5earth6client11Application12SetupMainWinENS0_3Kvw7ProductEb+0x282)[0x2d5e82] ./libgoogleearth_lib.so(_ZN5earth6client11Application3runEv+0x3a9)[0x2dddf9] ./googleearth-bin[0x805c77a] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6)[0x43fa66] ./googleearth-bin[0x805be71] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GoogleEarthLinux and Fedora11
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 14:22 +0200, Mogens Kjaer wrote: On 09/18/2009 02:13 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: ... So I tried to install and I got: 1. selinux violations, cured by 'chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /opt/google-earth/lib*.so'. 2. The above lib files didn't exist in the install directory. 3. segfault. Log file attached. 4. Attempt to uninstall with the supplied script results in Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting. This is a x86_64 installation. ... /usr/lib/libGL.so.1(glXMakeCurrentReadSGI+0x146)[0x1f9c961] Works for me, F11 x86_64 with nvidia's X11 driver. SELinux disabled. Should have mentioned, nvidia driver from rpmfusion, desktop effects enabled. The uninstaller script is looking for a program called loki-uninstall. yum doesn't seem to know anything about it. Any suggestions? Mogens -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why does laptop battery show 100% charge
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 21:32 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: Paolo Galtieri wrote: This is something that has been driving me crazy over the last several weeks. I have my laptop plugged into AC power and has been plugged into AC power for several days now, but the battery applet shows 97.3% charge. It has been showing 100% for several days and never reaches 100%. The battery is less than 3 months old. I'm running F11 with all the latest updates. On some laptops the charger does not get started if the battery charge is greater than some percentage (perhaps 95%). Saves pointless wear on the battery for very little gain. My Lenovo laptop claims to work that way, though I've seen it go into the charging state when the battery was already near full charge. The Lenovo power monitor on the XP side of my dual-boot laptop recommends not starting the charge cycle until the charge drops to 80%. I've been considering filing an RFE for the GNOME power manager applet to make that a user-settable parameter. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why does laptop battery show 100% charge
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 16:52 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/9/17 Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu: The Lenovo power monitor on the XP side of my dual-boot laptop recommends not starting the charge cycle until the charge drops to 80%. I've been considering filing an RFE for the GNOME power manager applet to make that a user-settable parameter. We'd need kernel support first... OK What's the best way to request that? Would it get generated as a consequence of the power manager RFE? Or should I file it separately? Anything special about kernel feature requests? -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 x86_64 and VMware 6.5.3
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 19:49 -0400, lanas wrote: Has anyone got VMware 6.5.3 running on F11 x86_64 and if so, how did you do it ? http://communities.vmware.com/thread/227575;jsessionid=EFCE55D043D7CF81DEF71EC2730236BB?start=0tstart=0 Thanks ! -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TeXLive 2009 texconfig
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 05:27 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:42:59PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: texconfig from TeXLive 2009 in F11 hangs when I attempt to set the dvips default paper type. The hang occurs when I run texconfig as a user and texconfig or texconfig-sys as root. Works for me as well on x86_64/scheme-full. Could you please attach strace output to 488651? Done. Thanks, Jindrich -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeXLive 2009 texconfig
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 08:38 +0100, José Matos wrote: On Wednesday 09 September 2009 Matthew Saltzman wrote: texconfig from TeXLive 2009 in F11 hangs when I attempt to set the dvips default paper type. The hang occurs when I run texconfig as a user and texconfig or texconfig-sys as root. It works for me on either scenario (F11/texlive-2009/i586). Mine's x86_64. Maybe that makes a difference? PS Sorry about the occasional dupes. Damn evolution-exchange... -- Matthew Saltzman -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
TeXLive 2009 texconfig
texconfig from TeXLive 2009 in F11 hangs when I attempt to set the dvips default paper type. The hang occurs when I run texconfig as a user and texconfig or texconfig-sys as root. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: AucTeX dependencies and TeXLive 2009
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 18:50 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2009/9/1 Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com: Is that intentional? Seems emacs-auctex requires 11.85, while your package provides 11.84. AucTeX is the upstream for the preview tex package - so this is another case where we need to decide whether to go with upstream or the texlive version. In this case, I think we have to go with the upstream (AucTeX) one as each Auctex release is tested against the bundled preview class. Actually, there is an option to install the AucTeX bundled preview privately for auctex. so both versions could co-exist, if we wanted to do that (although that's not my recommendation). Meanwhile, is there a workaround? I can install the right tex-preview alongside texlive-preview, but still can't install the old dvipng and kpathsea to get emacs-auctex. That kpathsea wants texlive-2007. Thanks. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Am I being punished?
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:36 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: So, when you installed Fedora, did you carefully uncheck that little box that says System Clock uses UTC? Windows does not really understand UTC or handle it very well. The solution is to go to the System -- Administration -- Date and Time application, click the Time Zone tab, uncheck the Clock Uses UTC box, click OK, reboot the machine, go into your BIOS and set the hardware clock correctly if need be. That should fix things. You need to be careful about using local time. * Linux on local time will adjust for DST if it is running at the time of the change, but will not adjust if booted after the change. * Windows will account for the change if running, but will also attempt to adjust if booted after the change. If the adjustment was already made by Linux, this will force your clock to be off by an hour. * Linux on UTC always handles DST correctly. * Windows can be set to not adjust, but must be set user by user. * There is a registry setting for Windows to make it use UTC correctly. I don't have it handy, but it is on the Web and in the archives for this list. It is accompanied by warnings that some programs could misbehave, but I haven't experienced any. My strategy (before I tried the Windows UTC setting) was to use UTC for the hardware clock and Linux, set Windows to use the GMT timezone, and turn off all DST adjustments in Windows. Now I use UTC in both. Bob On 08/31/2009 07:55 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm running a dual boot Windows/Fedora system on my Thinkpad T43. Whenever I run Windows, I find my time is 1 hour out when I return to Linux. Is this my punishment for consorting with the devil, or is there a simple solution? -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AucTeX dependencies and TeXLive 2009
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 13:01 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:23:50PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Here's what happens when I try to install AucTeX for Emacs with texlive-2009: $ sudo yum install emacs-auctex Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Excluding Packages from RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree Finished Excluding Packages from RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree - Updates Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora 11 - x86_64 - Updates Finished Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package emacs-auctex.noarch 0:11.85-8.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: tex-preview = 11.85-8.fc11 for package: emacs-auctex-11.85-8.fc11.noarch -- Processing Dependency: dvipng for package: emacs-auctex-11.85-8.fc11.noarch -- Running transaction check --- Package dvipng.x86_64 0:1.11-2.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: libkpathsea.so.4()(64bit) for package: dvipng-1.11-2.fc11.x86_64 --- Package tex-preview.noarch 0:11.85-8.fc11 set to be updated -- Running transaction check --- Package kpathsea.x86_64 0:2007-42.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 for package: kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 -- Finished Dependency Resolution kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 from fedora has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 (fedora) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 (fedora) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest I have texlive-dvipng, texlive-kpathsea, and texlive-preview installed. Should I file a bug someplace? Hmmm, it looks like a problem in how yum resolves obsoletes/provides. I will get exactly this when I try to install emacs-auctex, but if I do: yum install dvipng -y then texlive-dvipng and texlive-dvipng-bin get successfully installed. Then installation of emacs-auctex runs without problems. So it seems like yum has a hard time to resolve both installation of emacs-auctex and obsoletion of dvipng in one transaction even though emacs-auctex contains unversioned Requires: to dvipng and texlive-dvipng should successfully obsolete it. I'm not seeing the install without problems behavior, unfortunately. The messages above come from after installing texlive-dvipng*. After latest updates: [...@yankee ~]$ sudo yum install emacs-auctex Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Excluding Packages from RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree Finished Excluding Packages from RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree - Updates Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora 11 - x86_64 - Updates Finished Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package emacs-auctex.noarch 0:11.85-8.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: tex-preview = 11.85-8.fc11 for package: emacs-auctex-11.85-8.fc11.noarch -- Processing Dependency: dvipng for package: emacs-auctex-11.85-8.fc11.noarch -- Running transaction check --- Package dvipng.x86_64 0:1.11-2.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: libkpathsea.so.4()(64bit) for package: dvipng-1.11-2.fc11.x86_64 --- Package tex-preview.noarch 0:11.85-8.fc11 set to be updated -- Running transaction check --- Package kpathsea.x86_64 0:2007-42.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 for package: kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 -- Finished Dependency Resolution kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 from fedora has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 (fedora) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 (fedora) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest [...@yankee ~]$ rpm -qa \*dvipng\* texlive-dvipng-2009-1.12.13822.fc11.noarch texlive-dvipng-bin-2009-14697.fc11.x86_64 [...@yankee ~]$ rpm -qa \*kpathsea\* texlive-kpathsea-2009-14773.fc11.noarch texlive-kpathsea-lib-2009-0.3.20090828.fc11.x86_64
AucTeX dependencies and TeXLive 2009
Here's what happens when I try to install AucTeX for Emacs with texlive-2009: $ sudo yum install emacs-auctex Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Excluding Packages from RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree Finished Excluding Packages from RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree - Updates Finished Excluding Packages from Fedora 11 - x86_64 - Updates Finished Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package emacs-auctex.noarch 0:11.85-8.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: tex-preview = 11.85-8.fc11 for package: emacs-auctex-11.85-8.fc11.noarch -- Processing Dependency: dvipng for package: emacs-auctex-11.85-8.fc11.noarch -- Running transaction check --- Package dvipng.x86_64 0:1.11-2.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: libkpathsea.so.4()(64bit) for package: dvipng-1.11-2.fc11.x86_64 --- Package tex-preview.noarch 0:11.85-8.fc11 set to be updated -- Running transaction check --- Package kpathsea.x86_64 0:2007-42.fc11 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 for package: kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 -- Finished Dependency Resolution kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 from fedora has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 (fedora) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package kpathsea-2007-42.fc11.x86_64 (fedora) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest I have texlive-dvipng, texlive-kpathsea, and texlive-preview installed. Should I file a bug someplace? Thanks. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 16:46 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: * Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com [2009-08-26 16:45]: have to figure out if I can downgrade from v1.6x to v1.4x, which may not be possible or is it? I don't know. If it's important, I suggest asking the subversion maintainer. Was just at the Subversion Web site and noticed that subversion-1.4 is no longer being maintained. Glad you got things straightened around, Andrew -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike? [SOLVED -- at least for me]
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 06:17 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: Hi gilpel; On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 02:04 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 09:36 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: Again, any messages in dmesg or /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Yes this one, in dmesg: NVRM: API mismatch: the client has version 185.18.31 but this kernel module has version 185.18.14 If I boot with kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 and I uninstall/install kmod-nvidia, I still get version 185.18.14. and for kernel.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11 s kernel.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11 kmod-nvidia version 185.18.14 is what you are supposed to get. Then, why do I have: locate 185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libGL.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libGLcore.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libcuda.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libnvidia-cfg.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libnvidia-tls.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libvdpau.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libvdpau_nvidia.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/libvdpau_trace.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/nvidia/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.185.18.31 /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so.185.18.31 What's the result of 'rpm -qf /usr/lib64/nvidia/*'? I never enabled rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing , but somebody suggested that I install kernel-headers and *kernel-devel* for akmod. Is this possibly the reason? Doubtful. If I boot with kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.9.fc11.x86_64 and I uninstall/install kmod-nvidia, will I get version 185.18.31 ? Where did you get kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.9.fc11.x86_64? Nowhere, it's a typo. I did a uname -r and replaced the 3 by a 9 instead of an 8. Why not stick with kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11 ? It certainly is my intention. Once the modules are built for a particular kernel, they stay around for that kernel until removed. Once you get everything synchronized again, everything should Just Work. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike? [SOLVED -- at least for me]
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 02:04 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 09:36 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: I.E. Pay attention to what you are doing! I'm trying :) But I never enabled rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing, and I installed the new update for kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64. First time I rebooted, boot stopped, just where it used to with -217.2.7: r8169: eth0: link up . I checked if there was any akmod left to mess things up and all I found was /var/cache/akmods. I supposed this was unrelated, but I deleted it just the same. Now, the boot process stops at atd. If you are trying to restore a pristine F11 system, don't forget to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf. An xorg.conf that was exactly the same was written. No surprise there, if you are still working with the nvidia drivers. If you want to get rid of them and drop back to nouveau until it's all working again, there need not be an xorg.conf. Again, any messages in dmesg or /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Yes this one, in dmesg: NVRM: API mismatch: the client has version 185.18.31 but this kernel module has version 185.18.14 If I boot with kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 and I uninstall/install kmod-nvidia, I still get version 185.18.14. If I boot with kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.9.fc11.x86_64 and I uninstall/install kmod-nvidia, will I get version 185.18.31 ? Apparently, you will until we get this straightened out. Right now, unless you are testing, nothing should be 185.18.31. BTW, when I booted and could get nowhere, I opened a terminal and tried to see the messages that had gone by. Shift + PageUP used to give access to previous boot screens in Linux. What is it in Fedora? I wouldn't think it had changed, though I think I've noticed that it doesn't always work very far back. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike? [SOLVED -- at least for me]
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 09:36 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: I.E. Pay attention to what you are doing! I'm trying :) But I never enabled rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing, and I installed the new update for kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64. First time I rebooted, boot stopped, just where it used to with -217.2.7: r8169: eth0: link up . I checked if there was any akmod left to mess things up and all I found was /var/cache/akmods. I supposed this was unrelated, but I deleted it just the same. Now, the boot process stops at atd. If you are trying to restore a pristine F11 system, don't forget to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Note that atd is the last thing to start in runlevel 5 before local services. So X would start right after that. Again, any messages in dmesg or /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log? -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 02:18 -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote: Matthew Saltzman-2 wrote: You should be good to go at that point, at least until the kernel version number changes from 2.6.29 to 2.6.30. What is the significance of 2.6.30 in this regard? Are you implying that the akmod-nvidia and/or kmod-nvidia won't work with 2.6.30? Might or might not without an update from nVidia or a patch from RPMfusion. Linux kernel APIs and BPIs are not guaranteed to be stable across versions, and proprietary developers often need to race to release compatible updates when new kernel versions come out. nVidia and VMware are commonly used packages that are frequently affected. Kernel developers don't have much sympathy for proprietary developers (to put it kindly), so breakage is not uncommon. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 03:06 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; If it is any consolation to you, I am having exactly the same problem with the 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64 kernel. akmod-nividia-185.18.14-1.fc11.x86_64 doesn't work and kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64-185.18.14-1.fc11.5.x86_64q is the last nvidia module I have received. In what sense does akmod not work? Do you get messages at boot, in dmesg, or in /var/log/messages? What happens if you run akmods --force from the command line (as root)? (If you aren't running the kernel you want to build for, add --kernels kernel-version.) FWIW, aknod worked smooth as silk here (Quadro NVS 140M 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64) and even with legacy drivers (GeForce FX 5400 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i686.PAE). I am using the nouveau driver in the meantime. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 10:33 -0400, William Case wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 10:17 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; Additional info. On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 10:10 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 09:22 -0400, William Case wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 06:28 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 03:06 -0400, William Case wrote: /var/log/messages warns: NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 185.18.31, but NVRM: this kernel module has the version 185.18.14. Please NVRM: make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver NVRM: components have the same version. This appears to be likely to cause a problem. The kernel module is likely to be the one from RPMfusion, but the client is from some other source (nVidia directly, maybe?). It's not at all surprising that the version mismatch would cause a failure. But for 2.8 ]# akmods --force --kernels 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64 Checking kmods exist for 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64 [ OK ] and for 2.7; ]# akmods --force --kernels 2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64 Could not find files needed to compile modules for 2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64 I think this probably means that you don't have the kernel-devel RPM for that kernel. ]# rpm -qa akmod-nvidia akmod-nvidia-185.18.14-1.fc11.x86_64 I am now running on the 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 kernel which is using the nvidia driver. According to the nvidia X server Settings gui the NVIDIA Driver Version: is 185.18.31 Apparently a latter version than the more recent 2.7 and 2.8 kernels require ?? If you got that from RPMfusion, it's from the rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing repo. I haven't tried that yet, but the akmod-nvidia-185.18.14-1.fc11.x86_64 one is the one that worked for me. If you didn't get it from RPMfusion, you might want to remove all traces of it from wherever it came from and start from scratch with akmod-nvidia. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing Fedora 11 on dual-boot machine changes active partition?
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 17:36 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote: On 08/16/2009 05:24 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 08/16/2009 04:00 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: My father has a dual-boot Vista/Fedora 11 machine, with Grub on the MBR. He recently enabled recommended updates in Vista, and it wanted him to install SP2, but he was unable to. At Stage 3, after rebooting, it got to 100% but then failed and reverted the changes. The associated error number was 80004005. We found that the source of the problem was that the active partition was the Fedora /boot partition, not the Windows one. By using Vista's Disk Management tool to make the Vista partition active again, the problem was solved. Grub doesn't seem to care which partition is active (at least if it's on the MBR). Looking at old saved fdisk output from 2 of my machines, I suspect that F11 changed the active partition, and that in F10 and earlier, the Windows partition was active. Is this new behavior in the F11 installer (to change the active partition, even though Grub doesn't care), and if so, is it deliberate? I went through this and the solution is obscure but easy. He needs to change the active partition to the Windows partition. Except for the SP2 install and the ability for Vista to hibernate, neither Vista nor Fedora cares about what partition is flagged as active. http://www.sterndata.com/category/tags/sp2 Yes, if you read my message again, you'll see that we already discovered this (except for the Vista hibernation part - does Fedora hibernation care which is active?). My question is, given that this is the case, why does the F11 installer change the active partition if it doesn't have to? P.S. Prior to discovering this, everything I was able to find with a web search suggested that it was necessary to temporarily replace Grub with Vista's bootloader, then apply SP2, then put Grub back. Maybe that's completely wrong and the only reason it works is that it changes the active partition back to Vista. Generally, for dual boot machines, I install grub in /boot and make it active. That way, I haven't touched the MBR. In case warranty service is needed (or apparently in case of the Vista SP2 update, etc.), I can just change the active partition and Windows boots as though there's nothing else on the machine. In the past, at least, that had to be done with a rescue disk after the Fedora install, because Fedora did not change the active partition. In fact, I filed a bug at one point requesting that the user have the option to change the active partition during the install if he didn't use the default boot record. It was closed WONTFIX. I'm pretty sure the default is still to install grub in the MBR and not to change the active partition. The active partition must be one with grub installed. If you install grub in /boot and not in MBR, then /boot must be active, and vice versa. If you somehow get grub installed in both places, then either can be active, but you need to be careful to coordinate switching active partitions and updating grub. When I installed F11 over F10 configured with /boot active, specifying /boot as the target for grub, it did not change the active partition. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia?
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 21:18 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 16:01 -0700, Michael Hannon wrote: Hi, folks. I've got an AMD, 64-bit PC running Fedora 11. I've been using the kmod-nvidia driver for graphics. With the update to the latest kernel: 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 I seem to have lost that driver. [root ~]# rpm -qa | grep kmod libmikmod-3.2.0-4.beta2.fc11.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64-185.18.14-1.fc11.2.x86_64 [root ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process No Packages marked for Update Is there an update in the works? And/or is there something else I should be doing? I've got the same issue. I reverted back to -213 for now. Hopefully they build and push the new kmod-nvidia shortly. I'm surprised the thread has gone on this long without pointing this out: If you install the akmod-nvidia package, it will rebuild the driver automatically when you boot a new kernel. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: no send/receive in evolution
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 20:01 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:34:56 +0930, Tim wrote: There was a power outage in my area and I do have power backup for my pcs, but the router is not plugged into the ups. Before I turned the pc off, NM must have forced evolution offline. I didn't know NM had such powers. All is well now, thanks! I think the applications test periodically to see if they are online. If I'm wrong, then what happens is NM notifies a service (dbus) that you've gone offline and the apps either poll that or receive notification from it. Corrections welcome from knowledgeable respondents. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 19:06 +, Beartooth wrote: They make it incredibly tedious to get rid of all their miserable language-pack cruft -- and the minute you turn your back, they shove it all in again. Is there a way to prevent / disable that abominable practice? Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the number here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up. I think this is a Fedora packaging issue. ISTR a discussion about changing the packaging of Fx language packs in the future, but I don't recall the outcome. File a bug in Bugzilla (if there isn't one already). If it's an upstream issue, it can be pushed from there. Actually I don't mind the language extensions per se. What I do mind is the insanely tedious process of disabling them one by one, especially as the disabled state is not persistent across FF versions. Or has the time come to admit that the blasted browser is not worth the trouble it takes? I still prefer it to the alternatives. poc -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sage in F11
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 14:19 -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote:
On Sunday 19 July 2009 02:05:44 pm Matthew Saltzman wrote:
Sorry to bother the -devel list with this, but nobody on fedora-list
responded to my question, and I know there is some effort to package
Sage for Fedora. I hope one of those packagers can help me out.
I've installed sage-4.1 on F11 using the F10 binary installation
tarball. But when I run sage, it fails with the following error:
[...]
/usr/local/sage-4.1-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/l
ib/python/hashlib.py, line 63, in __get_builtin_constructor import _md5
ImportError: No module named _md5
I assume I'm missing a dependency, but what is it? Or is there something
else going on?
Sage worked fine in F10. This error occurred also with sage-4.0.2 in F11.
TIA.
$ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/python2.6/lib-dynload/_md5module.so
python-2.6-9.fc11.x86_64
I'm guessing the version of python shipped with Sage is missing the native
md5
module (which is in %{_libdir}/python2.6/lib-dynload/_md5module.so on F-11).
Rebuilding from source in F11 seems to have mitigated the problem.
You're right, though. There is no _md5module in the Sage Python libs.
Thanks.
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Re: Mute button on T61 doesn't work in F11
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 10:49 +0200, Gianluca Sforna wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Matthew Saltzmanm...@clemson.edu wrote: Which component should I file this bug at? Volume control buttons on my ThinkPad T61 work fine, but the mute button has no effect. This is a fresh install of F11, and I'm running GNOME. Simpler things first: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts check if the accelerator for Volume mute is set and try to reassign it to your mute button It's set to XF86AudioMute. Pressing the mute button doesn't change the setting. Also, this worked in F10 with no resetting of anything. Thanks for the suggestion, though. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Workstation in F11
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 12:52 +0200, Chris Rouch wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Matthew Saltzmanm...@clemson.edu wrote: I performed a fresh install of F11, then installed VMware-Workstation-6.5.2-156735.x86_64.rpm. Installed the patch for kernel-2.6.29 from http://communities.vmware.com/thread/203231. Now, when I try to start a VM, I get a message that the .vmdk file can't be found. The message pop-up lets me browse to the location of the file. File not found: xxx.vmdk This file is required to power on the virtual machine. If this file was moved, please provide its new location. But the file has not been moved, and when I select the file from the browser, VMware still refuses to start. Turning selinux to non-enforcing doesn't help. Problem occurs with Workstation and Player. Everything worked fine with F10, including with a 2.6.29 test kernel. Anybody seen this? Anybody know a solution? Try disabling selinux completely. On my F10 box with vmware server, permissive mode wasn't enough. I got it, actually (noted elsewhere in the thread). It was permissions, but not selinux. For a raw-disk machine, user needs to be in group disk. Apparently, with F11, they finally made /dev/sda* group writable again, so sysadmin doesn't need to do it. VMs still hang on shutdown, but that seems to be a different, known issue with no current workaround. Regards, Chris -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 11:26 -0400, Shannon McMackin wrote: On 07/10/2009 10:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There's been a steady trickle of complaints from different folks about their screens going blank for a second, or two, after upgrading to F11. I've observed this too -- it happens on one of my laptops every couple of days, or so. I've always had the impression that, for some reason, this was the screensaver kicking in. They way that happened always gave me that idea. I'm now pretty sure that, sometimes, for some reason the screensaver kicks in even though the system is not idle. I just finished typing, and began reading something on the screen, when the screen went black about three seconds after I stopped typing. I did nothing, and the screen continued to stay black. After waiting about ten seconds, I pressed the shift key, and my desktop came back. It's the screensaver. Something's causing it to trip, when it shouldn't. Happens on my Lenovo T61. Usually just goes out for a second or 2 and then comes back. Happens on my T61 (nVidia driver) too. Last time, I just waited and it didn't return until I touched the touchpad. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Sage and F11
Sage worked fine for me with F10, but after a fresh install of F11, I
can't get sage to start. Error messages below. Does anybody know a
fix?
Thanks.
$ sage
--
| Sage Version 4.0.2, Release Date: 2009-06-18 |
| Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.|
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/sage/local/bin/sage-ipython, line 18, in module
import IPython
File
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/__init__.py,
line 58, in module
__import__(name,glob,loc,[])
File
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/ipstruct.py,
line 22, in module
from IPython.genutils import list2dict2
File
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/genutils.py,
line 59, in module
from IPython.external.path import path
File
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/external/path.py,
line 35, in module
import md5
File
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python/md5.py,
line 6, in module
from hashlib import md5
File
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python/hashlib.py,
line 133, in module
md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5')
File
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python/hashlib.py,
line 60, in __get_builtin_constructor
import _md5
ImportError: No module named _md5
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Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 13:52 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 11:26 -0400, Shannon McMackin wrote: On 07/10/2009 10:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There's been a steady trickle of complaints from different folks about their screens going blank for a second, or two, after upgrading to F11. I've observed this too -- it happens on one of my laptops every couple of days, or so. I've always had the impression that, for some reason, this was the screensaver kicking in. They way that happened always gave me that idea. I'm now pretty sure that, sometimes, for some reason the screensaver kicks in even though the system is not idle. I just finished typing, and began reading something on the screen, when the screen went black about three seconds after I stopped typing. I did nothing, and the screen continued to stay black. After waiting about ten seconds, I pressed the shift key, and my desktop came back. It's the screensaver. Something's causing it to trip, when it shouldn't. Happens on my Lenovo T61. Usually just goes out for a second or 2 and then comes back. Happens on my T61 (nVidia driver) too. Last time, I just waited and it didn't return until I touched the touchpad. Another thing I notice: I have the screen set to dim on idle. Sometimes, the screen dims even when I am typing and does not restore full brightness until I turn the brightness up manually. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
VMware Workstation in F11
I performed a fresh install of F11, then installed VMware-Workstation-6.5.2-156735.x86_64.rpm. Installed the patch for kernel-2.6.29 from http://communities.vmware.com/thread/203231. Now, when I try to start a VM, I get a message that the .vmdk file can't be found. The message pop-up lets me browse to the location of the file. File not found: xxx.vmdk This file is required to power on the virtual machine. If this file was moved, please provide its new location. But the file has not been moved, and when I select the file from the browser, VMware still refuses to start. Turning selinux to non-enforcing doesn't help. Problem occurs with Workstation and Player. Everything worked fine with F10, including with a 2.6.29 test kernel. Anybody seen this? Anybody know a solution? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Workstation in F11
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 07:39 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: I installed VMware on F11 and the patch and it started fine for me, but when I tried to install WinXP as a guest OS my system locked up solid. By default vmware looks for files in ~./vmware if you moved it and didn't change the config you'll get this error. I also get the errors shown below during the install. I did not move the files--they are still in a subdirectory of ~/vmware. I don't recall if there were errors, but I will re-install and try again. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Workstation in F11 [SOLVED]
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 16:49 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 07:39 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: I installed VMware on F11 and the patch and it started fine for me, but when I tried to install WinXP as a guest OS my system locked up solid. By default vmware looks for files in ~./vmware if you moved it and didn't change the config you'll get this error. I also get the errors shown below during the install. I did not move the files--they are still in a subdirectory of ~/vmware. I don't recall if there were errors, but I will re-install and try again. Sorry for the dup. I reinstalled and started vmware as root to get modules built (instead of the command-line command suggested in the patch script). This time, it worked. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Workstation in F11 [really SOLVED]
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 20:11 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 16:49 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 07:39 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: I installed VMware on F11 and the patch and it started fine for me, but when I tried to install WinXP as a guest OS my system locked up solid. By default vmware looks for files in ~./vmware if you moved it and didn't change the config you'll get this error. I also get the errors shown below during the install. I did not move the files--they are still in a subdirectory of ~/vmware. I don't recall if there were errors, but I will re-install and try again. Sorry for the dup. I reinstalled and started vmware as root to get modules built (instead of the command-line command suggested in the patch script). This time, it worked. It worked because it was running as root (so that it could build the modules. This VM is a raw disk one, and I needed write access to the raw disks. I added my userid to the disk group and now it works (except it seems to hang on shutdown, but that's a problem for another day). Used to be that I got an informative error message when this happened, about not having write access to the raw disk. Not sure why that's no longer the case. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another Firefox 3.5 problem update
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 13:46 -0400, George Avrunin wrote: Well, I'm getting strange behavior on www.nytimes.com with FF 3.5 (but not enough to make it unusable). I'm on F11, fully updated. When I click on an article, FF seems to think that it's loaded twice. I noticed this because the back arrow wouldn't work once I had gone to an article. If I click on the list of sites to go back to (the small triangle next to the back and forward arrows), it shows the current page twice. Clicking on the back arrow doesn't change that. But if I click on something farther down the list, I get back to that page. I saw this for a while with F10 and ff3.0.x. It persisted when I upgraded to F11. It's stopped now. AFAICT. (I reported it to the nytimes.com Webmaster a couple of days back, but I have not had a response. No other sites have behaved this way for me.) I tried moving my .mozilla out of the way and starting fresh and saw the same behavior. Konqueror doesn't have this problem. I haven't tried FF 3.5 on a Windows machine. Any ideas? George -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: touchpad synaptics pm-suspend
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 20:23 -0400, paul s wrote: hi - when my mbp4,1 comes back from suspend the touchpad is frozen|unresponsive|not working. it only seems to be with suspend as when it returns from hibernate it is fine... i am using 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64 is anyone experiencing this issue... i have been looking around, played with the fdi and also added a script to the /etc/pm/sleep.d to load and unload appletouch to no avail... anyone else experiencing this behavior? help would be greatly appreciated. Not this exactly, but I've noticed that when I turn on tapping, it goes off after some time. I now conjecture that tapping doesn't survive suspend/resume, but I need to test now and see. cheers paul -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 22:13 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote: 2009/7/4 Jeroen van Meeuwen kana...@kanarip.com: I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora 12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle. You can find more details at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle Perhaps a way to do this would be to identify what the latest and greatest is that users want and make _that_ run on Centos. Here's my list: OO.org Firefox Thunderbird Evolution with MAPI connector GNOME-RDP Amarok There is a fast track channel for RHEL5 that is supposed to provide early updates of at least some apps. I can only see MAPI being a problem requiring some Samba 4 stuff. Much worse than that. The MAPI evo is 2.26, but RHEL5's is 2.16. You'd have to upgrade the entire GNOME infrastructure to support the MAPI stuff. From the discussions I've read, back-porting MAPI support is not practical. Honestly, I'm impressed by your persistence but I think simply trying to re-instate Fedora Legacy (which it sounds like this is what you are trying to do) is doomed to permanent failure. Regards -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Evolution exchange F11 fails
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 08:03 +0200, William Murray wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have evolution working with the older OWA access on F11? I updated two machines and in each case evolution fails to connect. I also tried a fresh start, but no luck. I could start posting E2K_DEBUG stuff, but does it work for anyone? Bill I haven't tested extensively, but yes, the OWA connector (evolution-exchange) connects and downloads my mail. The OpenChange connector (evolution-mapi), on the other hand, is unusable at the moment (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505166). Hope this is fixed soon... -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: replys
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 21:55 +0100, Steve Searle wrote: Around 09:48pm on Sunday, June 14, 2009 (UK time), terry scrawled: How does one compose a reply to a message inside digest mode? Point me to instruction or supply instructions, please. You can't re-join it to its original thread, so jsut do the best possible. Change the subject back to the original subject, rather than the generic digest one. Trim all but the messge that you are replying to, and trim any irrelevant parts of that. If you get your digests in MIME format (see your subscription options at http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list), most mail clients will show the messages as independent items that you can reply to. That's what I've done here. Steve -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 - 11 Update Problem
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 08:17 +0200, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: Hello, I'm having some update problems: rpm -Uhv http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-11-1.noarch.rpm yum upgrade -- Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed) glibc-2.9-3.i386 from installed has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9-3 is needed by package glibc-2.9-3.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9-3 is needed by package glibc-2.9-3.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed) Tried already without success: yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing I found several messages with the same problems from prereleases: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2009-05/msg01968.html http://www.nabble.com/update-to-F11-with-yum-td23807463.html http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg117103.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720 Any ideas to solve upgrade? Yep. It's trying to get old dependencies, not new ones. Yum cache files from F10 are left over after preupgrade. yum clean all, then try again. Thnx. Ciao, Gerhard -- http://www.wiesinger.com/ -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 21:01 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Well, its busy putting the finishing touches and the reboot to rawhide right now. It just asked for a runlevel 3 passwd. And the first casualty is my accessory usb mouse, its dead and I am stuck with that totally worthless scratchpad, which I swear picks up the local radio station, its totally spastic if the hand isn't held so high above the keyboard when typing that its strictly one finger typing. Gene, I think if you look at System - Hardware - Mouse in F11, there is a setting to disable the touchpad when typing. If you don't see that, or if you use KDE and it doesn't offer that option, check out syndaemon, which is the utility that accomplishes that. It's part of the synaptics driver package. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to redirect http to https with Apache/SVN/SSL [SOLVED]
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 07:05 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:57 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I think you had it with the redirect causing an error in svn. The change to https needs to be done at the request end (AFAIK) so if svn can't/won't do that properly you are better off failing it with a useful error than having the traffic to you be unencrypted. My opinion only, the client is not working in a good way, break it rather than having it work in an actively BAD way. Yes, that was what I thought, since there is no real way to get a redirect with svn in the picture. I tried it in all sorts of ways but was not able to. It would be nice if there was a way to do a redirect cleanly, but alas, it's not to be had. not that this is going to help but you are trying to solve a client problem with a server solution. I don't see your problem as not being able to 'redirect cleanly' because in my mind, 'RedirectPermanent' is as clean as you can get but rather the client application apparently doesn't have enough http skills to deal with the Redirect information it has been given by the server. Probably some of that is about security because you really don't want an unsophisticated client to willy nilly accept redirection to another host/site/URL. Craig Yes, it makes sense what you are saying. FWIW, the subversion version in F10 is quite nice about informing you about the redirect: $ svn co http://my.svn.host/svn/MyProject Project svn: Repository moved permanently to 'https://my.svn.host/svn/MyProject'; please relocate $ rpm -q subversion subversion-1.5.4-3.x86_64 -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 10:43 -0400, James Kosin wrote: Globe Trotter wrote: Hi, I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which graphics card is preferable for running fedora: a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable or a ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable ATI3600 What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and stuff, but want it to work well. Please let me know if I should provide more information. Best wishes, Trotter Trotter, If you like re-configuring or re-installing drivers at ever kernel change then OK you can do either. The bad news is ATI and nVidia are not fully natively supported in XWindows in most circumstances without the proprietary drivers. There are repos that support these two and work is being done for native support... but, alas it is SLOW in coming. Tips: If you choose either of these, only do so with the intent to CAREFULLY update kernels and drivers. Don't try updating the kernel if there is no driver update available, you may regret this decision. Next, try getting an older model ATI or nVidia card, support is easier for the older models than the newer ones. Linux is also a bit slow at getting newer cards supported natively, without going to proprietary drivers. It's worth pointing out that RPMfusion provides RPMs with kernel modules for the proprietary versions of both drivers. The akmod-nvidia RPM seamlessly rebuilds the driver when a new kernel is installed. I assume that the same applies for the ATI packages, but I haven't used them. James -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Installing Moonlight?
I went to view a site that requires Silverlight, and it directed me to the http://go-mono.com/moonlight/ site to install Moonlight. I clicked on the link there, but instead of offering to install the plugin, Firefox (firefox-3.0.9-1.fc10.x86_64) offers to download it or open it with the application of my choice. I downloaded the file novell-moonlight-1.0.1-x86_64.xpi, which is a zip archive, but I'm not sure what to do with its contents. Anyone know the answer? I also have nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-2.fc10, both x86_64 and i386 installed. Thanks. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Moonlight?
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:31 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:26:40 -0400 Matthew Saltzman wrote: I downloaded the file novell-moonlight-1.0.1-x86_64.xpi, which is a zip archive, but I'm not sure what to do with its contents. Anyone know the answer? An xpi file is a Firefox plugin. I have never looked at that particular one, but Firefox has a built-in ability to install xpi files -- just click on the file and it will give you the opportunity to install it. After installing, you can remove or disable it from the Firefox tools menu. Ah, good point. That worked to get the plugin installed, but the site seems to require Silverlight 2... -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Email Application for Fedora
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 19:58 -0400, Jim wrote: try evolution email client, has the same functionality as outlook Well, not hardly. But it does connect to Exchange server--nothing else in Linux does that I know of. (Hoping the new MAPI library that's supposed to be in F11 represents progress over the current OWA connector) On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 11:06 -0300, cibertazzi2001 wrote: Try openoffice is better that office of microsoft Em Dom, 2009-04-19 às 14:47 +0600, Adeel Akbar escreveu: Hi, In windows I used Microsoft office Outlook 2003 for emails correspondence and now I installed Fedora 10. Can any one tell me any that which application I used in Fedora for Emails which support all functionality of MS Office outlook and also having support to import all my previous emails? Adeel Akbar -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Session Properties: Open Terminal Windows; How to Save?
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 14:24 +0100, Derek Cramer wrote: System - Preferences - Personal - Session Options tab Remember currently running applications Is that what you're looking for? It would be, but it doesn't work in F10. That part of GNOME is apparently in need of a rework. I'm not sure what its status is for F11. 2009/4/17 Tom Browder tom.brow...@gmail.com Gradually over the years Fedora has made saving open terminal windows harder and harder and now, with Fedora 10, I can't save them open at all. Somewhere around F 6 there was a button in System - Preferences - Personal - Sessions that one could push to save the session, and it would keep the windows locations (and directory location) between logins. Now nothing but what programs to run! Is there any way to do it? Thanks. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Forttran 77
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 19:47 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 08:05:23PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: mj...@lavabit.com wrote: hi to all I want help to install Fortran 77 on my laptop at present i am using FC9. please help me . Install: compat-gcc-34-g77 It sould give you a g77 command which will compile F77 programs. F77 is an 'old' fortran. Are your programs equally as old? I believe the gcc-gfortran package should support FORTRAN 77 as well as more recent Fortrans. I have seen reports of some issues with gfortran, but I'm pretty sure it is intended to work, so problems should be reported as bugs. One of the generic way to find packages like compat-gcc-34-g77 is: yum info all /tmp/infoall less /tmp/infoall # search for fortran or Fortran or FORTRAN. Of interest the Intel compiler suite for students has a good price. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Forttran 77
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 08:09 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I noticed that there is a gcc-gfortran compiler, but missing is the legacy g77 compiler, more noticably, that neither compiler appears in the cache. This becomes self-evident when one installs NetBeans, and notices that it cannot seem to locate the fortran compiler because it does not appear in the /usr/lib/ccache folder. Why is that? $ rpm -qi ccache [...] Description : ccache is a compiler cache. It acts as a caching pre-processor to C/C++ compilers, using the -E compiler switch and a hash to detect ^^^ when a compilation can be satisfied from cache. This often results in a 5 to 10 times speedup in common compilations. ccache doesn't support Fortran? None of the files in the ccache RPM appear to be related to Fortran in any way. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
