Re: MariaDB and Fedora
Hi On 12/14/2009 04:56 AM, Nathanael Noblet wrote: As a DBA / Developer, I second this... obviously I can't complain because they are both free. However the setup/configuration of postgreSQL compared to MySQL is basically something easy, versus something where I don't have a clue what is going on, and there are million ways to do it, and when I'm done I have no idea if I'm wide open to the entire world, or as secure as on MySQL. There are a few other odd bits too, I mean I really don't get the purpose of copying template1, what is that? etc etc etc... MySQL is just more intuitive. I agree on that, and a major problem with PostgreSQL at the moment is that it doesn't have a clustering engine. So MySQL is still the simplest choice out there for the end user. Steven -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: cpqarrayd for fedora 11 and 12
Hi, On 08/28/2009 09:13 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: Is it really true that nobody else uses cpqarrayd? If so what do people use to monitor the HP/Compaq hardware in the Proliant range of servers? I'm using http://sourceforge.net/projects/cciss/files/cciss_vol_status/ for that purpose, with a cron job that checks it and sends a mail in case of a problem. Note: take the CVS version for support of the latest controllers, I had a little mail exchange with an HP guy: You can get the CVS version this way: scame...@zuul:~/testit$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonym...@cciss.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/cciss scame...@zuul:~/testit$ cvs login (just hit return when it asks for a password) scame...@zuul:~/testit$ cvs co cciss_vol_status I suppose it's about time I made a new release of cciss_vol_status. Steven -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
NDN: Spread the news about Fedora 12 Alpha!
Hello dear Fedora News Distribution Network people, As you may have noticed, Fedora 12 Alpha was released. You can read the full release announcement on [1]. Feel free to translate it in your language, select the important bits from your point of view and submit this good news to as many websites/magazines as possible :) Meanwhile, it would be a good idea to clean up and add things the list of publications in you language [2]. Also please follow the comments on your news during the following days to kill some Myths [3], and report every news story to the press Archive page [4]. 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_myths 4: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_archive Thanks, your work is very appreciated! Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Alpha announcement checked
Hi, Thanks for your edits. I'll send it to the NDN 2 days before the actual release. Steven On 08/19/2009 03:31 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:15:24AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: I checked and updated version numbers (for instance, GNOME 2.27.90 beta is the latest GNOME because GNOME 2.28 isn't yet out) and tried to make the wording flow a little nicer. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement Steven, it's all yours. https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/16 I did just a smidge more fine tuning this morning. I'm going to cc the Docs team so they know this has been worked on. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 12 release announcement
Hello all, Sorry not to continue the old thread about the F12 alpha announcement [1], but I'm new to this list, so I couldn't reply ;) As Paul suggested, I made a complete release announcement based on a template we used in the marketing group for F11. The release announcement is located on [2]. If you don't mind, I'd like you to use this flat URL instead of [3]...an inclusion in the F12 Alpha release notes also needs to be corrected. The content of the page should be pretty final, but I'd like you to have a look at it to add/remove features...I simply chose the ones I found interesting for *me*. Also please correct my English if you don't mind. 1: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-August/msg00100.html 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcement_for_F12_Alpha_Release Have a nice day Steven (Fedora Marketing) -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Requires question in SPEC
Hello all, I'm facing a problem with one of my SPEC files...I'm packaging a program (motion, in RPM Fusion) that has a startup script. In the start() section of this startup script, I have added an LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/libv4l/v4l2convert.so daemon $motion to support more cameras. So I naturally added a Requires: libv4l in my SPEC file, but of course rpmlint complains with E: explicit-lib-dependency libv4l. The problem here is that I can't see how RPM could automatically add libv4l as a dependency when I build the package...it's not in the code, only a call in the startup script. So... * Should I consider that libv4l is installed by default on F10/11 and not put the require. * Put the require and let rpmlint complain. Any advice on that? Note that if you launch the startup script on a system that doesn't have libv4l, it simply doesn't do the LD_PRELOAD, but still works as usual. Thanks Steven -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Requires question in SPEC
On 08/11/2009 10:15 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:02:23 Steven Moix wrote: Hello all, I'm facing a problem with one of my SPEC files...I'm packaging a program (motion, in RPM Fusion) that has a startup script. In the start() section of this startup script, I have added an LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/libv4l/v4l2convert.so daemon $motion to support more cameras. You can patch your package to use libv4l directly. Usually it's easy - there are some issues but... Check some packages using v4l to check what you have to do to port it. I talked to the upstream devs, and they will (probably) do that in the future, but right now I think that I'm going to let rpmlint complain and simply comment my spec file. Also check this blogpost by Hans de Goede (libv4l author) [1]. [1] http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/3636.html That's where the feature request came from initially, https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=681 Steven -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-08-04 IRC Log
Hi all, Logs for today's meeting are posted at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2009. The minutes log is available on http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-04/fedora-meeting.2009-08-04-20.00.html Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Almost-finalized: Marketing F12 schedule
Hi, On 07/30/2009 06:12 AM, Mel Chua wrote: FWIW: To update TaskJuggler and the master schedule, I will need a text version of the schedule in the format that we created on Gobby. Assuming (based on gobby) that the format you need for f12 team schedules is each entry on a separate line, then the task and start and end dates like this: name of task -MM-DD -MM-DD ...does this mean that if I change something on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule, I have to add my changes to another text file somewhere else? /me can already feel the synchronization problems. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
News distribution network 2.0
Hi all, With the past experience from the Fedora 11 cycle and the rise of Fedora Insight, it was time to change the way our news distribution network works, the main difference between both of them is that: The Fedora Insight initiative is a passive way of delivering a steady flow of news, while the News Distribution Network is an active tool to push the most important news all around the world. The new page can be found on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_news_distribution_network_%28NDN%29 What has changed? * During the F11 cycle, we were supposed to write news to this mailinglist, and decide which ones we wanted to send to the NDN. Obviously, this was an epic fail as we never did it this way. * With Fedora Insight, our work will be more focused and streamlined. Our job is tu put content on the Fedora Insight website, along with the News group and other people; we will do this regardless of the NDN. Now we simply have to select the important news stories from FI and send them to NDN, so they can be published internationally. I don't know the English expression for that, but...on fait d'une pierre deux coups. ;) Any comments on the new way I'm planning to use the NDN? Its goal is now really to push the most important FI news worldwide, it's a tool deigned just for that. Thanks Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: News distribution network 2.0
On 07/29/2009 10:21 PM, Mel Chua wrote: I don't know the English expression for that, but...on fait d'une pierre deux coups. ;) Killing two birds with one stone, maybe? (I don't actually speak French...) That's it, but why do these poor birds have to die in English? :p Any comments on the new way I'm planning to use the NDN? Its goal is now really to push the most important FI news worldwide, it's a tool deigned just for that. A big +1 from me here. If I'm understanding this correctly, what this means is that all we have to do is worry about getting good (and shiny) content onto FI; if FI contains 100% excellent, public-facing content, NDN's Ambassadors will do the rest in terms of getting individual pieces of that content and the messages they convey into specific, targeted places (individual publications, blogs, podcasts, journalists, etc.) In other words, FI is how Marketing and News supply the ammo (News filling the water balloons, Marketing polishing them up and delivering them in a convenient box with a map of suggested targets), and the NDN actually loads and shoots the slingshots. Yep, it sounds quite natural in fact :) Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Self-Introduction: Martin Duffy
On 07/14/2009 11:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/15/2009 03:14 AM, Martin Duffy wrote: Hi everyone! My name is Martin, I'm from upstate New York, and my sister Mairin works for Red Hat and has gotten me into Fedora and open source software in general over the past few years. I finished grad school about a year ago studying English/writing, and currently I'm volunteering in an Americorps program with the Red Cross as my day job. I'm hoping to contribute to Fedora marketing by writing copy, blogs, any kind of media content (podcasts, video, etc.), or whatever else I can (or can learn) to do! Welcome to Fedora marketing. At a glance I was wondering why Mo was introducing herself again after all this time. Apparently more of the family is getting involved now. Nice. Rahul Damn, I was confused too at the beginning :) Welcome! Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Wiki cleanup
Hello, On 07/12/2009 12:44 PM, wonderer wrote: Hy, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_tasks: I'd like to archive this page, in the new cycle we have simply added a current tasks table to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule which serves the same purpose. I have transferred all the tasks which are still alive from the old page to the new one, but please have a look and tweak it as you like. Is it possible to diferentiate those a bit mor structureable? maybe let the Frontpage Marketing_tasks and then diferentiate to past , actual and future tasks. Also I think there will be allways ongoing tasts that could stay on the Marketing_tasts page... I changed the title on the F12 schedule page, it should be clearer now. This General tasks not tied to a particular Fedora release cycle will be ported to every new cycle by me when I cycle the pages. The old page really didn't work simply because nobody clicked on the link, thus nobody worked on the tasks. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxUserGroups : does this page still make sense? Archive? -1 ! Linux User Groups all around the world are (in my opinion) most of the community based structures outside Fedora itself. They have a lot of potential and even if there are strictly a marketing issue it can be one part of it... I was just looking at this page, which hasn't been updated in ages. So I'm not sure it is even useful. Note that it isn't really a marketing page, it's just linked from our section. I'll leave it alone. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_brain_dump : does this page still make sense? It looks like we are using the mailinglist for that... Hmm, i think sometimes a mailinglist is good, sometimes a wiki. That depends on the task... Anyone else has comments on this one? I'm already going to archive these pages for now: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UserTestimonials https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_tasks https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_surveys Thanks Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Wiki cleanup
Hello all, As for every Fedora cycle, I am cleaning up our marketing wiki and cycling pages to Fedora 12. I'd like to discuss some pages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_tasks: I'd like to archive this page, in the new cycle we have simply added a current tasks table to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule which serves the same purpose. I have transferred all the tasks which are still alive from the old page to the new one, but please have a look and tweak it as you like. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UserTestimonials : updating this page was a task for the F11 cycle, but with project FooBar I propose that we archive it and integrate user testimonials directly in a section of the new CMS? We could have an article every month or so about a specific Fedora usage in a company or by someone as an article. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxUserGroups : does this page still make sense? Archive? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_surveys : does this page still make sense? Archive? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Books : this clearly needs love, I added it to the current tasks list. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_brain_dump : does this page still make sense? It looks like we are using the mailinglist for that... Any comments? I won't touch the pages until the next meeting. Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-07-07 IRC Log
Hello all, Here is the log for today's marketing meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-07-07 Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Can we have tomorrow's meeting 2 hours early?
Ok for me. Steven On 06/22/2009 05:59 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Hello All, We are scheduled to have our regularly scheduled meeting tomorrow. The agenda will be talking about the future of marketing and plans, titled Project FooBar, about which you will see an email soon. I was wondering however, if people didn't mind, if we can have the meeting 2 hours early tomorrow, so 18.00 UTC instead of 20.00UTC because this week is pretty hectic with different stuff to do and I need to be in a meeting tomorrow at 4pm. If people agree then I can go ahead and send out a preliminary reminder today. Thanks, Jack -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)
On 06/17/2009 07:52 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Given the loud feedback, I've updated the proposal at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support The revised proposal: - Build all packages for i686 (this requires cmov) - Optimize for Atom Why? - We don't really support i586 in any meaningful matter - OLPC still works with base i686 - We are likely doing a mass rebuild for F-12 anyways, might as well switch while we're doing it - Atom is the only currently produced 32-bit x86 chip of note; optimize for what's currently available If you want numbers, I did some benchmarking of code [1] with various build options on a variety of processors, with the F-11 gcc code. All of these results are relative to a F-11 baseline of -march=i586 -mtune=generic. P4 2.4Ghz Athlon 3400+Core2Duo E6850 Atom N270 march=i686/ -1.1% +2.0% +0.9% +0.6% mtune=generic march=i586/ +0.3% -0.3% -0.2% +1.3% mtune=atom march=i686/ -1.5% +1.2% +0.5% +1.7% mtune=atom Bill [1] gzip, bzip2, math simulation, mp3 encode/decode, ogg encode/decode This sounds a perfectly fine and sensible solution to me, thanks for taking the feedback into account :) Steven -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FEEDBACK: How did we do for F11?
On 06/13/2009 12:17 AM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Jack Aboutboul wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F11_cycle_retrospect Please add to this and also we can discuss parts on the mailing list if people like. I added some points about the NDN: For the Fedora 11 cycle, the NDN didn't perform as well as expected, it was a first try after all. I can point out 3 principal problems: 1) The motivation of the NDN people, some languages did perform much better than others: - Some people who joined the NDN are clearly not motivated anymore (or never were). We had a please get my language on the list effect without much motivation behind. - I'm going to e-mail each member of the NDN to see if it's the case, and look for fresh blood. - Having 2+ people responsible for each language was also a bad idea, as I feared, it dilutes the sense of responsibility. One motivated person is the way to go IMO. 2) Getting feedback from the NDN people: - This goes with the precedent point, if we have motivated people, we get feedback. 3) The translation process wasn't optimal at all for the release announcement, the idea of translating important announcements in all the languages was an epic fail for some reasons: - The translation team has other more important things to do than translate marketing stuff. - People of the NDN are not comfortable with pre-formatted texts. What we should do is just publish a news in English, then it's free for all to write a story in their respective languages, without constraints. That's more or less what happened for the F11 release anyway. Sounds harsh? Well, I'm trying to be realistic so we can correct these problems. It's also my failure :) Other than that, we did pretty well compared to older Fedora releases! The F11 Tour page is a FANTASTIC tool that MANY websites linked to. It really gives user a global overview of the product. The podcasts were the other strong point. Having technical podcasts as well as more generic interviews (with Leo Laporte) generated a lot of enthusiasm. Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Hands-on: new Fedora release goes up to 11 but doesn't rock
On 06/12/2009 06:10 PM, Christopher Fikes wrote: It wouldn't be too dificult to release an updated iso with the appropriate patches would it? That's why the Fedora Unity project exists, and people like Jeroen Van Meeuwen produce wonderful software like Revisor. You very probably won't see an updated officiel release, this was always the policy. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 11 leaps into filesystem unknown
Hello, Thanks, please update the press archive page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_archive Steven On 06/09/2009 11:24 PM, Gianluca Sforna wrote: Are we going to collect review links? if so, I'd start with the one from The Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/09/fedora_11_review I would definitely recommend Fedora 11 to anyone using 10, but think it might also be a nice alternative for those growing tired of Ubuntu or just looking to play around with a new Linux distro. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-06-02 IRC Log
Hello all, Here is the log for today's marketing meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-06-02 Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-05-26 IRC Log
Here is the log for this week's meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-05-26 Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora Brasil Magazine - 5th Edition
Hi, This magazine is fantastic, I forwarded it to the French team so we can steal some content for our magazine (called Muffin) maybe ;) Steven On 05/25/2009 03:19 AM, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: == Fedora Brasil Magazine - 5th Edition === It’s an absolute pleasure for Projeto Fedora Brasil (Brazilian Fedora Project) to announce that the 5th edition of our magazine is available for download. In this number, we’ve made a special approach to Office Suite BrOffice.org and have been presented with a special editorial written by Gustavo Pacheco, charter member of BrOffice.org. We would also like to introduce the series BrOffice.org for advanced users. For those who want to know all its potential, it’s time to start your collection. As usual, we’ve chosen a very interesting game: Secret Maryo Chronicles is a pretty special remake of a classic game that everyone knows, it will certainly please even the most demanding players. Neither GNOME nor KDE, we invite you to know Enlightenment, which promises to turn your desktop into a work of art, and we also talked to Professor Gregory Kriehn, of the Engineering Department, at California State University – and the father of the repository of Enlightenment for Fedora. Igor Soares analyses, in a clarifying way, the complex situation of closed drivers in the Linux world, the lessons on Shell Script have finally moved from the introductory phase, and now the person in charge is Fabiano Caixeta Duarte. Is anything missing? How about our first comic strips? Download from: http://www.projetofedora.org/Revista Email Translator: Renata Ribeiro Guimarães -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-05-19 IRC Log
Here it is, full of joy and happiness: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-05-19 Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: OLPC X0-1.5 and Fedora 11
Rahul, herlo made a series of screenshots of this Sugar release on F11 if you want to transmit it to your contacts: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour Steven On 05/16/2009 01:48 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi http://blog.printf.net/articles/2009/05/16/the-olpc-xo-1-5-and-fedora-11 Some good news from OLPC: we've decided to base the new XO-1.5 laptop's software release on Fedora 11. Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the option to switch into a standard GNOME install instead. (This will mostly be useful for older kids in high school.) We think we'll need to use our own kernel and initrd, but the other base packages we expect to need are present in Fedora already, including Sugar; in fact, we already have an F11+Sugar+GNOME build for the XO-1 using pure Fedora packages. That build will get better as a result of this work (although OLPC's focus will be on getting the XO-1.5 running) and it will form the basis for the XO-1.5 build. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Why would I want Fedora?
Hi, On 05/15/2009 05:00 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: How about; Fedora is similar to proprietary operating systems like Microsoft Windows and provides an easy and powerful graphical environment, office suite, games and more. It is a secure and virus-free experience with brand new releases full of major improvements every six months all for free (both in terms of cost, and ability to change the underlying code to suit your own needs). Isn't it similar to *BSD too ? Fedora is an Operating System, just like Microsoft Windows, Apple Mac OS X orinsert as many as you want, keeping in mind that too few can hurt people and too much will bore the reader ... There's one thing that is concerning me. When I submitted a game package in fedora, I had a description similar to this game is in the style ofname of a commercial game and I was told to remove the reference to a commercial trademark not owned by the Fedora Project as it could cause legal issues. Aren't we in a similar case by writing this kind of stuff on our wiki page ? IMO we should NOT use comparisons, the moment you start to do this, you acknowledge that you are a follower instead of a leader. Fedora is what it is, a full OS that you can use for millions of things and this is how we should market it. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-05-12 IRC Log
Hello, Today's marketing meeting log is available on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-05-12 Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
News and media coverage plan for Fedora 11
Hello everyone, The release date for Fedora 11 is coming close, so it's time for some coordination between the Ambassadors and the Marketing group! In this mail, I'm going to address different points, so everyone has a clear view of what is going on and how we can effectively split up the tasks. Also any feedback is of course welcome. 1. In the next couple of days, the Documentation team is going to write an official Release Announcement for Fedora 11 in English. 2. As soon as this document exists in a final form, it is going to be translated in a couple of languages, if all goes well German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Hindi, Italian and Arabic. This will be coordinated by the Documentation team with the aid of the Translation team. These translated versions should be available a few days before the final release. Now with that being done, we need to coordinate around everything else. Earlier this year, the Marketing group has set up a structure called the News Distribution Network (NDN) [1], which aims to distribute Fedora news to the global media. Some Ambassadors from different languages have joined this effort and will be pushing news to a list of publication [2] they maintain. Besides that, there are a number of ways in which we really need the Ambassadors help: 1. Track all the Fedora news you see on the web and add it to our press archive page [3], this will help us judge the depth of coverage so that we can focus our messaging more precisely in the future. 2. At release time, and for a couple of days after that, we need you to follow the comments on news websites. People will probably have questions there, or you will have Fedora Myths to bust [4]. As much as some of us might like to flame people, our official policy is to be as professional and possible while at the same time making our points clear and well understood. Making members of the community angry us will prove unproductive. 3. Blog! You can start right now, get vocal about Fedora! Talk about the upcoming release and what the time table is. Talk about a feature you care about. Talk about how we got to 11, but most importantly, just talk! If you feel like there is anything to add to this list, then please feel free to reply and make sure to cross post to fedora-marketing-list as well. Also, please let everyone know in what capacity you can help so that we can coordinate efforts amongst everyone. I hope that everyone has a better understanding of the process now :) 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/F11 4: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMyths Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: News and media coverage plan for Fedora 11
On 05/08/2009 06:24 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Was this posted to ambassadors-list? Posted, yes. Published on the list, looks like it wasn't the case. I posted it as a non registered user and didn't get any messages back. So it might be on review somewhere...Meanwhile I re-subscribed to the ambassador ML but didn't get any confirmation mail yet. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-05-05 IRC Log
Here is the log for the last meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-05-05 Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: In depth features profiles
Hello, On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 20:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 04/13/2009 08:35 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Hey All, Can anyone who has an outstanding in depth feature profile due, try and get them done soon. Moksha and Ext4 are outstanding as well as two of my own, I am working on those now. I would like to have them done by the meeting next week. Thanks, Jack I have published a FAQ at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11 Talking to Eric Sandeen on a interview plus a secret bonus! This page is very helpful, although I find that the How do I migrate from Ext3 to Ext4? section lacks a bit of content. It would be helpful to list the procedure to migrate a disk after the installation there. I'm thinking about external USB drives for example :) Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F11 screenshots tour
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 14:53 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Steven Moix wrote: I started to upload pictures on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour This is a great, great start! Thanks veyr much, Steven. I updated the page with several F11 features as well as some screenshots in every major desktop environment. I'm going to migrate my laptop to F11 for the fingerprint reader feature later today, but otherwise do we miss something? Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora Wordpress widget
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:34 +0100, Keiran Smith wrote: I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora 11 countdown http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their blogs etc. Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam Fantastic, I added it too :) Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Press kits
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 19:56 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:51:05PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:26:22PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: It might be a good idea to talk with Moixs about this as he sent me some press kits as well as some to Jack. As I understood it, they were being translated already. Who's reviewed the text and design at this point? Pretty much me and Jack since it was physical presskits. I think Moixs was going to put them up on our site but I think how he created them wasn't using free tools and he was trying to find a way to do that. I'm not sure though, so don't quote me on that. Let's see if Moixs pokes his head in on this thread tomorrow; he's likely asleep now. The press kit I was talking about has a more limited audience, but any press kit that Fedora is sending out really must use free tools. It sounds like that's already being addressed. If the original was prepared in French, I'm keen to see the English translation when finished. Maybe Moixs can tell us who's working on that, unless you or Jack know. Ok, a résumé of the situation: * Jack should have translated my physical press kits by now. * I asked the Art team to recreate these press kits in Scribus one week ago, not much going on since then. It's in the design service queue on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService We have 2 choices now if nothing moves quickly: * Send me the English texts and I'll create the PDF files from my Adobe InDesign source (my trial version still hasn't expired), we can always recreate the models in Scribus later. * Use Paul's press kit for the F11 release and only use the new ones for F12. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Press kits
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:12 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: What's the status of press kits for Fedora 11? Are they designed? 3 press kits exist: * Mine which are meant to be physically printed * Jack's kits which are an electronic version * Paul's kits which are a mix of both :p Has the content been reviewed/approved? Jack, Herlo and you have some of the kits (or they should arrive in the next days at your office in NL) :p When will be sending them out? Depends on which kit we select for this release. etc. --Max -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F11 screenshots tour
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:41 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. Can we confirm whether or not he's still able to do it? Yes yes, it's on my planning for tomorrow. i just need a confirmation from Art that the Anaconda artwork won't change. I got a confirmation from mizmo, I'll go ahead and complete the page in the next couple of hours. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F11 screenshots tour
Hi there, On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 12:46 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:41 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. Can we confirm whether or not he's still able to do it? Yes yes, it's on my planning for tomorrow. i just need a confirmation from Art that the Anaconda artwork won't change. I got a confirmation from mizmo, I'll go ahead and complete the page in the next couple of hours. Steven I started to upload pictures on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour As mentioned by Max, I reduced the number of Anaconda/setup screenshots by 50%. I made them during the install (Shift+printscreen saves them somewhere) but they were not saved after the reboot, I'm quite pissed. Feel free to add your pictures in the Applications section. The rules are simple: 1000 pixels wide and only display software available in Fedora, we don't want rpmfusion stuff in there. Can someone make KDE, XFCE or Sugar screenshots? Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F11 screenshots tour
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. Can we confirm whether or not he's still able to do it? Yes yes, it's on my planning for tomorrow. i just need a confirmation from Art that the Anaconda artwork won't change. I think the screenshots should focus LESS on every page of the installer and more on showing some of the cool stuff you can do with Fedora once it is installed. Totally, so feel free to add real life pictures. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Slogan, redux
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:06 -0700, Rashadul Islam wrote: what about: MESMERIZE LEADING IN FREEDOM That's a word I don't understand as a non native English, so do probably a lot of other people :p Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 11 press kits
Hello, I just put up a design request for Fedora 11 press kits from the Marketing group. It's available on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_11_press_kits Basically a friend made the kits in Adobe InDesign CS4 and we'd like them in a FOSS format. It's also not F11 compliant picture-wise, consider the current models as proof of concepts... I can provide the InDesign CS3 or CS4 source if needed...It would be nice if someone could pick that up, I'm available for all questions. Big thanks in advance Steven Moix Fedora Marketing ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-04-21 IRC Log
Here is the log for this week's meeting, not many people present so it's rather short: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-04-21 Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-04-14 IRC Log
Hello, Here is the log for the last marketing meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-04-14 We mostly discussed the press kits, the release announcement and the RC meeting. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: French press kits
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:01 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: 1) I think the best solution is to redesign the whole thing in Scribus for the long term, I'm searching a volunteer! Maybe the Art team? Note: it looks possible to export them as SVG for Inkscape, pascalp from fedora-fr is working on it. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: French press kits
Hello all, Bad news, InDesign CS4 has a new proprietary file format, even incompatible with older InDesign versions. Yay! The big question now is...do we want to use these press kits? :) They need some professional printing, Live CD's and CD fixation dots in the middle, which represents a cost of around 1$ to 1.5$ for each kit (rough guess). If yes, 1) I think the best solution is to redesign the whole thing in Scribus for the long term, I'm searching a volunteer! Maybe the Art team? 2) It would also be great if someone could translate them to English (Most of the 4 press kits have the same content)...any volunteers there? The press kits are available as PDF (French) on http://www.alphatek.info/divers/press-kit-FR.zip A picture of some kits: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/press-kits.jpg A kit with a LightScribe Live CD and a F11 press release: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/kit-communique.JPG Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: French press kits
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 20:01 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, --- On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Steven Moix steven.m...@axianet.ch wrote: | Note, for those who didn't know this, that this is a teamwork with my | class, it's not my design. The texts will come later. Excellent work! Please mention their names. Credit must be given to all of them! The names of the culprits are on http://www.alphatek.info/2009/04/11/bye-bye-heig-vd/ :) So, now I have the final versions of the kits, there is only one problem (and don't laugh): the guy who made them had the beta version of Windows 7 and Scribus was just unusable on it (+ a serious lack of time to learn Scribus). So he used Adobe InDesign CS4 instead, and the press kits ave this format now... I'm downloading the trial version right now in my Vista VM to see if I can do something about that. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Meeting schedule, do we need strict UTC?
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 23:32 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: For what its worth, IMHO we should go by regular, non-UTC fixed, because I wouldnt want to be at a meeting which was at 23:00. We basically chose our 5pm eastern time meeting because that was when Ian and Mo could make it to the meetings. At the time we chose it, that meant 10pm in central europe. Now europe has moved ahead an hour, but the 5pm eastern time problem remains. So, the question is: is someone outside DST opposed to this idea? If I don't get any answer before Sunday evening 20h UTC, we can move the schedule for the next meeting. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Meeting schedule, do we need strict UTC?
Hello all, Some months ago, we all voted to hold our IRC meetings at 21h UTC. This was perfectly fine for the continental-European people during the winter (we are at UTC+1) because the meetings were held at 22h. Now let's introduce Daylight Savings Time (DST) to the party...it adds another hour in the summer, which brings the meeting to 23h. It's clearly too late for me... Résumé: Winter: meeting at 22h Summer: meeting at 23h So my question is...can we hold the meetings at 21h UTC in the winter and at 20h UTC in the summer? It would have the effect to keep a constant meeting time (22h) during the whole year for us... Any comments? Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
French press kits
Hello all, Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on heavy paper. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: French press kits
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 18:43 +0430, Mostafa Daneshvar wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 15:59 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: Hello all, Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on heavy paper. Steven Wow, That's GREAT. Well-done :) Note, for those who didn't know this, that this is a teamwork with my class, it's not my design. The texts will come later. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: French press kits
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 10:48 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 03:59:10PM +0200, Steven Moix wrote: Hello all, Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on heavy paper. This is really spectacular, Steven! Are the sources for the designs posted anywhere? It might be useful for us to make the interior text available for translation to other languages. They will be available Friday, we still have to work on them until then... Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 11 beta bares chest to all-comers
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:05 +0200, Gianluca Sforna wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/fedora_11_beta/ Fine, I added it to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/F11 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: 2009-03-31 meeting log
Hi, On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 00:16 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-03-31-marketing.html I'm working on press kits right now with my class, we should have 4 different kits targeted at different audiences (general, school, university, companies/state) by the end of the week. The only problem: they will be in French, and will need translation. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: French Press Kits WAS Re: 2009-03-31 meeting log
Hi On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 12:32 -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Okay, so how about I will wait until the end of the week and see what you have and maybe work with the translation team on putting things together. Meanwhile, is this up somewhere or do you have a list of contents? It's not advanced enough to be available right now, but we have 4 press kits planned, each one has a common part with generalities about Fedora, then each press kit has a specific content targeting a specific audience. The design will be done with Scribus as far as I know, the form-factor is an A3 paper sheet cut in half (in the length) and folded in 3. This is to allow ambassadors to print them themselves. So we will have 6 faces in total, which will contain: - The front cover with the Fedora logo - A general description (the common part) - A place to put a CD/USB and instructions on how to use it - A page with screenshots concerning the specific target audience - A page with generic Fedora screenshots - The back cover with contact informations It looks like that: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/dscn2491.jpg Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F11 Announcement
Hello, Are you aware of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network, which is used for the first time today? Steven On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:02 -0300, Rafael Gomes wrote: Hi Guys, I am from Brazil and I am thinking about an improvement to our Announcement of new version. What do all you thing if we separate the new features for groups of interest? Same as the Announcement of Gnome. Take a look: http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/index.html.en#rnusers IMO It is better than we have now. PS: Sorry for my bad english, I am learning yet. Rafael Gomes Consultor em TI Embaixador Fedora LPIC-1 (71) 8146-5772 Fedora Talk : 5103520 III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da Bahia -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-03-24 IRC Log
Here it is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-24 Summary: * moixs and themayor talked about the beta release announcement mixup with the docs team and how to spread it next week * We talked about the Fedora 11 slogan, we will give it 2 more weeks for ideas, then we'll contact the Art team. stickster noted that he had the right to veto it * spevack told everyone that he could do some interviews in Amsterdam * yanstadel and themayor made a plan to interview Fedora people, first individuals (written), then groups (written), then videos Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:57 +0100, Marcus Moeller wrote: Good Evening, I just created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is I am not really sure, but should'nt it be called announcement instead of announcment? Typo, but the page isn't valid anyways, use the one linked by Paul Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC
Hello all, I just created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is the news I want to spread via the NDN (News Distribution Network) when the beta will be released. This is a point we should talk about this evening during the IRC meeting, but feel free to edit it meanwhile. Thanks Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC
Hello On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 09:24 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: Steven, I'm not sure if you were aware that the Docs team is already working on the official Beta release announcement, which is found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Beta_Announcement Damned, I wasn't aware of this :/ The Docs team took the lead on creating this announcement, in the release readiness meeting held last week: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-March/msg00070.html That meeting includes a representative from each team that's part of the Fedora release. Jack was present at that meeting to represent the Marketing team. He should help coordinate Marketing input into the Docs team's writing of the announcement, as indicated in the notes. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-03-17 IRC Log
Here it is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-17 themayor showed us the talking points [1] ianweller told everyone that picture submissions to the picture book are open ianweller asked everyone to blog about the picture book [2] moixs is taking ownership of the user testimonials page moixs is going to write a beta release news for F11 spevack talked about the F11 in depth features we want to focus on. An e-mail will be sent to the mailinglist [3] themayor told everyone that on 2009-03-18 there will be a beta readiness meeting, he wants to talk to docs and art during this meeting 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Picture book submissions now open
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 13:46 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:47:07PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Argh, mixed marketing fail! A red knitted cap? Make it blue and you have a deal. ;-) You people, taking all the fun out of making multi-layered political statements via photography. Don't make me resurrect my goat mascot idea from cerca FC2. -jef Fun with animals = endless possibilities :) http://forum.canardpc.com/showpost.php?p=1913396postcount=142 Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
News distribution network
Hello, note: this mail is CC-ed to the marketing mailinglist. First of all I thank you for volunteering to help spread Fedora news. Now that we have a complete staff [1] we can start to work :) We are currently in a pre-beta phase, which means that there is not much going on on the news front. The first news you'll have to spread will probably be the beta release, I will contact you again around 2009.03.25 for that. Meanwhile I'd like you to go to the list of publications page [2] and update it with websites and contacts in your language..this will ensure that we have current and updated information we can use quickly. 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications Thanks Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-03-03 IRC Log
Hello all, Yesterday's marketing meeting log is up on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-03 The main topics that we discussed were: * The meeting began with a discussion about the Picture Book. Themayor wanted to have the critical path planned at the end of the meeting to get it done. Ianweller, mizmo and themayor exchenged ideas about it, it will end up on the wiki. * The book will have around 100 pages with a production cost of around 10$. It will be printed by Lightning Source, we only need to give them a PDF. * The rest of the meeting was about choosing the talking points we want to promote for Fedora 11. * All tasks for the current milestone were assigned (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule#Feature_Freeze_-_From_2009-02-05_to_2009-03-03) Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting 2009-02-26 IRC Log
Hello, On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 15:39 -0500, Susan Lauber wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Steven Moix steven.m...@axianet.ch wrote: Hello, Here is the marketing meeting log for 2009-02-26: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meeting_2009-02-26 Steve, The new wiki page names look great. I have another tip for you - I hope you are interested :) There is also a Meeting: namespace so that, like the Archive space you have already used, meeting logs do not show up in a default search that a new user might enter. In addition to can then put them in a sub category. I just finished setting that up for Docs Project last night: If you look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Docs_Project You will see under subcategories both [[Docs Project meetings]] where we have summaries and agendas and such and [[Docs Project meeting logs]] which have the IRC logs. Thanks again for your efforts in wiki cleanup! -Susan Oh I didn't know this, I'll correct our pages. Thanks! Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing Guide
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 19:52 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: Might be some good ideas for us here: http://contribute.mozilla.org/Marketing John Thanks, I'll have a look at it. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-02-26 IRC Log
Hello, Here is the marketing meeting log for 2009-02-26: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meeting_2009-02-26 * During this meeting, we mainly reorganized the Fedora 11 schedule page [1] until the feature freeze phase. Dates were set and people assigned to tasks. * Items under the feature freeze milestone will be discussed next Tuesday. * Themayor is going to update the general task list [2] * The news distribution network concept is going to be deployed. moixs is going to contact the ambassador list to find candidates for each language. fugolini (Italian), themayor (English) and moixs (French) already volunteered. 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_tasks Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Proped New Meeting Time?
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 12:36 -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Max Spevack wrote: Mon 21:00 UTC Tue 21:00 UTC Thu 21:00 UTC Okay guys, of these, which works best? Would we rather have the meeting earlier in the week so we have time to work on stuff or do we want to keep it Thursday? Jack Just chose one time and impose it to us, that's why we completed the matrix :p Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Wiki schedule and task list
Hello all, I branched off the marketing schedule template [1] for the current F11 release [2]. Owners and dates were added, we'll fill it during the next meeting i think. You may notice that I also linked the general task list from there [3], this is intended for tasks that are not release-dependent. It looks a bit outdated to me at the moment. One thing keeps me from finishing the wiki cleanup now: how do we want to distribute our news? If we look at Jonrob's notes [4], there is a task for lay press contacts. This is clearly conflicting with the news distribution network proposition. My proposition is the following: * We set the marketing group as responsible people for the English contacts. This way we can control primary websites and coordinate our efforts with Red Hat for the big announcements. What do you think about this? I'd like to have it fixed before tomorrow's meeting so we can really go on with the important work. Thanks Steven 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule_template 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule_and_task_list 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_tasks 4: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jonrob/Marketing_schedule_notes 5: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Red Hat Fedora Linux 10 nears 1 million user mark
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:56 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Two things: 1) Should we get reporters to stop calling it Red Hat Fedora? 2) The article claims Fedora 8 has more users than Fedora 9 and Fedora 10. Should we look into this? http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/02/red-hat-fedora-linux-10-nears.html Red Hat's Fedora Linux 10 has been out since the end of November 2008, and is now hovering around the 1 million installations mark. Fedora uses a system to measure active installations that check the update repositories in order to determine how many installations are in use. The stats are from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics but the methodology got changed since F9. Hard to say what is true :) Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Wiki pages renaming
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 10:51 -0500, Susan Lauber wrote:
2009/2/20 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 02:54:37PM +0100, Steven Moix wrote:
Hello,
I started cleaning up and renaming the wiki pages in the
Marketing
section, but I have some questions...
1) Is someone responsible for updating
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_contributors ?
Couldn't we pull
this list automatically from FAS somehow?
2) Do we still need this page or can it be archived?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_rewards
In a more general sense, how do we manage old pages? I
flagged a
duplicate page for deletion, but for other pages, do we
create an
Archive section and rename the pages to Marketing archive
pagename?
Pages can be moved to the Archive: namespace, but if a page is
so old
that it's not worth saving, you can put the template {{old}}
at the
top so it's flagged for later consideration for deletion.
Just in case Paul's move to Archive: namespace is not clear for
everyone (it took me a bit as a noob)
Take the page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_rewards
Which is known to mediawiki as Marketing rewards
Use the move tab and make the new name Archive:Marketing rewards
The guide [1] says to also use an archive category. Some groups are
putting these files in a Category:Group archive others are not
bothering. Archive: is not searched by default but can easily be
searched if you need to find something.
If you think you will reference them some, but don't want them in a
default search for users, you will want a category as a shortcut to
finding them all at once.
Archive and redirection are strongly preferred over deletion [2]
Thanks for doing this cleanup work!
-Susan (wiki-gardener)
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraProject:Deletion
general: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Wiki_policy
You are reading in my mind. I was looking at the wiki structure page and
asking myself the exact question you answered :)
Steven
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Re: This Weekend?
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 16:49 -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Hey Guys, Yesterdays meeting was great. Alot of positive energy and we have been accomplishing a lot lately. Here are a list of things that we can try to tackle over the weekend, for those of us who find some time: * Add your name to the meeting matrix so we can establish a new time for the meetings: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jack/Meeting_matrix * Continue to add things to the release calendar: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule * It might be good for us to have this new schedule look like what poelstra has, with an added column for owner: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/ * Take what JonRob has on his page and start to fold that, using the new template into the schedule for f11: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jonrob/MarketingSchedule * Continue to discuss things on the list and brainstorm great ideas. Great, great work the last couple of weeks, lets keep it going. We have a lot of great energy, you guys make me proud to be involved in this! Jack Hi, I worked for around 4h this morning to clean up the wiki and renaming pages to the new wiki syntax: * Some pages were partially rewritten to clear up the content * Some pages were merged to avoid an unnecessary content fragmentation * Some pages were archived because they were too old or too clumsy. Every pertinent content was transfered to other pages. For the archived pages, I created an [[Category:Marketing archive]] category and moved them to the Archive: namespace. Youcan see them on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_archive I also had some problems, or pages I didn't update at the moment. these ones are still in my todo list: These pages seem useful but really need updating, any volunteers?: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Books https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations Is this really our job? Do we want to continue and put effort in this page? I'd like to archive it. Too much effort for too little. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UserTestimonials Isn't this the art group's job? These pages are useful to us: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_banners https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_posters https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_statistics_poster Conflicting or redundant items, we need to decide how to merge them...: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material Our Press Contacts section https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SpreadingNews Merge https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_tasks in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule The most critical point are the conflicting items, I'll think of a good solution in the following days. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: This Weekend?
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 13:40 +0100, Steven Moix wrote: Isn't this the art group's job? These pages are useful to us: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_banners https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_posters https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_statistics_poster Ok, I archived the two first pages because they have the exact same ones (only better) in the Art group, I linked to them instead. I also updated the marketing statistics poster but there seems to be an issue with the wiki cache probably...when updating the svg file, a mix of the old and new file are displayed. Any clue on that? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Marketing_StatisticsPoster_stats-poster.svg Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing schedule template
Hello, As discussed in the IRC meeting, one of the goals for next week is to complete the marketing schedule template located on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule_template. As soon as we have a somewhat complete page, we'll adapt it for the Fedora 11 cycle and put it on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule (currently the template is displayed there). This will probably happen during the next meeting. So I want EVERYONE to add tasks to each milestone, be creative! Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Wiki pages renaming
Hello, I started cleaning up and renaming the wiki pages in the Marketing section, but I have some questions... 1) Is someone responsible for updating https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_contributors ? Couldn't we pull this list automatically from FAS somehow? 2) Do we still need this page or can it be archived? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_rewards In a more general sense, how do we manage old pages? I flagged a duplicate page for deletion, but for other pages, do we create an Archive section and rename the pages to Marketing archive pagename? Thanks Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Proposal: The New Fedora Marketing
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 11:04 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: +1 to Karsten's suggestion. Make sure we're following the wiki guidelines for pages so that when someone searches, they get what they need to participate. As for the overall solution, IMHO the schedule for release-based tasks does need to be coordinated with the other teams on the release calendar, so +1 to that. I thought this was something the group had more or less agreed at a previous meeting, but I could be wrong. If we do have consensus, then we need to see real dates pronto and start dealing with concrete to do items. Maybe set a time limit on discussion of the plan in today's meeting, and then move on to turning it into action items that can be assigned and achieved. Yes, we agreed on this schedule during the last meeting, for the people who were there. As a goal for today's meeting I propose to update our schedule page with all the important milestones and sub-tasks. At least for the next month or so... About the wiki cleanup, I also propose to take another meeting to cleanup most of the page, I frankly think that half of them can be deleted for good as they are pretty much very outdated and not maintained. It's useless for us and gives a bad image of the marketing group in general, don't you think? Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing Meeting 2009-02-19 IRC Log
Hello, You can find the transcript of today's marketing meeting on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Meetings/2009-02-19 The most important things we talked about are: * Changing the meeting time so more people can join, a mail will be sent tomorrow for that. * We created and started to update the schedule template page on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Schedule, a mail will be sent tomorrow for that. * We talked with Máirín Duffy from the Art team to see how we could coordinate with them during the distribution's release cycle. * We set a goal for next week: rename pages on the wiki to match the new naming guidelines and complete the schedule template as much as possible. More to come tomorrow in 2 separate mails. Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: New Meeting Time
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 16:27 -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Let the discussion commence... It's really important for us to be organized now with this new setup and to rally around the meetings. If a different time is better and will enable more people to not miss out, then let's figure out when that is so that we can have the meeting at that time next week... Jack For me it's good from 17h UTC to 21h UTC Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Meeting Today 2009.12.02 @ 19.00 UTC
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 23:32 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: Absolutely right, every meeting should have minutes and a log posted, because it helps maintain team cohesion. This should be done immediately after the meeting if at all possible, and I'm sure Jack is working on it right now. I'm responsible for this from now on, but my IRC client crashed in the middle of the meeting and I lost the log :/ themayor is supposed to send it to me later today and I'll put it on the wiki. By the way, we have conversion scripts available (irclog2html is in the Fedora software repository) to make that easier. Ian Weller can advise on the correct place to post minutes if there's any confusion. Nice Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Meeting Summary and Log of 5/2/2009
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:03 -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Working from the current schedule, however, we came up with the following action items: * Have 3 Feature Owners, or relevant contributors do some form of press interaction with 3 different community press contacts, this meaning news sites, podcasts, etc. Owner: Jack Aboutboul * From this Steven Moix suggested this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/NewsDistributionNetwork Same idea as above but for each language The page has been updated with spevack's comments and is now ready to receive applications for people interested in publishing news for each language. There is also an (empty) list with couples between marketing people and feature owners/SIGs/other to assure a somewhat continuous news flow. Add yourself to the list if you are interested, we'll discuss the state of this page during the next meeting IMO. * Any Fedora-relates press should now be added to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive I just added a link to http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/48938-fedora-11-alpha-mingw-kde4.htm Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora news distribution network idea
Hello, As I missed today's meeting, here is one point I wanted to talk about: an effective news distribution method. As discussed in last week's meeting we don't have an effective way to get Fedora related news to the public so here is a proposition: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/NewsDistributionNetwork Feel free to edit it, comment it and so on...If you find it's a good idea I'll start looking for interested people in the following weeks. The core of the proposition is to find motivated people in the marketing group to generate news in the first place. Have a nice day Steven - moixs -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Press Archive page on the wiki
Hello all, Lately, I was looking at the Marketing section on the wiki to update it a little bit, some pages are sadly not updated since a long time. My particular complaint goes to the Press Archive page, which is a useful tool to see Fedora's progression in the press. Currently, I seem the only one to maintain it with links to French press articles. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive It would be very nice if people from the marketing group in other languages (Rahul, you are the first in line) could update this page when they see Fedora related articles on major news websites. Also, do we still need the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/General page? It seems pretty useless to me. Thanks and have a nice day Steven Moix -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: About the Marketing Meetings...
Hello, On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 15:45 -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: 1. Is there any specific reason due to which you do not or have not recently participated in meetings? School, exams, semester end = no time left :) 2. When do you think is the best day and time for a meeting? For me, it's perfectly fine with the actual time, maybe 1h earlier. 3. Is there anything else we can be doing inside the meetings that might make the meetings more valuable to you? Not really, the main discussions are happening on the mailinglist anyway as far as I can tell. 4. Is there anything else that we can do in marketing, in general, that you think would make the project more valuable and beneficial to Fedora as a whole? Update the wiki to have current information in it, so it can be a good resource when we need Fedora related stories and marketing facts ;) Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Press Archive page on the wiki
On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 20:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Steven Moix wrote: Hello all, Lately, I was looking at the Marketing section on the wiki to update it a little bit, some pages are sadly not updated since a long time. My particular complaint goes to the Press Archive page, which is a useful tool to see Fedora's progression in the press. Currently, I seem the only one to maintain it with links to French press articles. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive It would be very nice if people from the marketing group in other languages (Rahul, you are the first in line) could update this page when they see Fedora related articles on major news websites. Also, do we still need the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/General page? It seems pretty useless to me. Thanks and have a nice day Yep. Helpful if you or others interested can help get it updated. You will find many posts in the list archives for reference. Don't bother too much for the old news, if you could add an entry every time you post a news on this mailinglist from now, it would be enough I think. I'll continue to update the content for the French press. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing Plan Virtual Hackfest
Same here. Steven On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 13:46 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote: 2008/12/23 Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.com: Hi Folks -- As outlined in last week's Marketing meeting, the marketing folks are holding a Marketing Plan Virtual Hackfest in #fedora-meeting at 7 p.m. Eastern U.S. on Tuesday, 12/23 -- that's 0:00 UTC on Wednesday 12/24. Hope you all can make it. Larry Cafiero I can't be able to attend just because here I'm in UTC +1, this means I would have to stay up since 02/03am UTC+1. I'm sorry if I gave my availability during the past meeting, but I didn't consider that my time zone != UTC. Hoping to read the IRC log and, once again, apologizing to not be able to be there. Regards Francesco Ugolini -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 10 preview release shines like a star
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 23:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2008/11/06/fedora-10-preview-release-shines-like-a-star I tested the preview release in VirtualBox using the GNOME Live CD installer. I was particularly impressed with the high quality of the new desktop wallpaper image, which comes from the Solar artwork theme. The whole user experience felt amazingly polished. Fedora 10 is really shaping up nicely and feels like its going to be a very strong update Rahul In the same vein, we got a good coverage in the French press, on all major websites: http://www.clubic.com/actualite-175890-fedora-evaluation-finale.html http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/47104-fedora-linux-10-plymouth.htm http://www.linuxfr.org/2008/11/05/24644.html http://www.generation-nt.com/fedora-10-preview-release-linux-actualite-182641.html etc etc... Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: four f's poster designs
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 22:02 -0400, Mairin Duffy wrote: Hey folks, ... http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/fourfs/four-fs-four-posters.png Don't ask me why, but they made me think at the Intel Centrino logo (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/d/d1/Intel_Centrino_Logo.svg) Nice and clean design otherwise. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: FM FWN
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:10 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote: Firstly, FWN has its own category here, 'Fedora Weekly News', and as such has its own feed. This means that all those who've been waiting for a FWN feed to subscribe to can now point their feed readers at: http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/category/fedora-weekly-news/feed/ Although this feed address will change if/when we move to Fedora's infrastructure, I don't anticipate this happening for a while and I will be sure to make it very clear when it does. Talking about feeds, the FWN feed in Liferea (in F9 at least) points to http://fedora-tchung.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default and stops at issue 128. It would have been a good idea to publish a last post in this feed with a notice to change the URL. A standard user isn't going to actively seek a new FWN feed IMO. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: FM FWN
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 18:21 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Steven Moix wrote: Talking about feeds, the FWN feed in Liferea (in F9 at least) points to http://fedora-tchung.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default and stops at issue 128. It would have been a good idea to publish a last post in this feed with a notice to change the URL. A standard user isn't going to actively seek a new FWN feed IMO. That was the personal blog of Thomas Chung, the former lead of FWN... we have no way on writing on his blog... maybe an email to him asking nicely for such a post? Done, I contacted him. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: FM FWN
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:07 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 11:08 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:10 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote: Firstly, FWN has its own category here, 'Fedora Weekly News', and as such has its own feed. This means that all those who've been waiting for a FWN feed to subscribe to can now point their feed readers at: http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/category/fedora-weekly-news/feed/ Although this feed address will change if/when we move to Fedora's infrastructure, I don't anticipate this happening for a while and I will be sure to make it very clear when it does. Talking about feeds, the FWN feed in Liferea (in F9 at least) points to http://fedora-tchung.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default and stops at issue 128. It would have been a good idea to publish a last post in this feed with a notice to change the URL. A standard user isn't going to actively seek a new FWN feed IMO. You may want to file this as a bug against Liferea in rawhide. IIRC Brian Pepple maintains that package so I'm cc'ing him for good measure. He'll let me know if I'm dead wrong. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467083 Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 09:42 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: Hello Guys! Read this bad news: http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1 This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things within the project, particularly the creation of a Legacy project or a Fedora LTS. The brazilian government, one of the biggest Fedora Case of the world is changing from Fedora/ Red Hat to Ubuntu/Debian. We need to think and create a solution to give support by a long time or the fedora user will decrease! My 0,02 Frankly, that's what RHEL/CentOS are for. Taking Fedora as a long term server solution was a mistake in their side IMO. Fedora Legacy exited and died due to a lack of interest. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 10:51 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: So, we are working here to recommend Red Hat and CENTOS ?? That's the question, Ubuntu has a LTS, Fedora don't! That's the main problem of the Fedora Project. Today, we have many users! With this idea to recommend Centos and Red Hat, we will have a lot of users in the future ? Thinking in this way, we will hear frequently Fedora is a beta tester version to add and improve technologies for Red Hat EL . For me and for marketing, it isn't a great decision! Now i'm presenting lectures in all Brazilian states and i can't talk about this.. USE CENTOS OR RHEL. I have to recommend Fedora. I'm here to represent and spread fedora, not Centos or Red hat EL. Represent and Spread != Absolutely want it everywhere This very problem is exactly why RedHat and Fedora split at the RedHat Linux 9 stage. I don't see any solution to that apart educating people that Fedora is not a RHEL beta. IMO, LTS is too much effort for too little. http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/09/16/video-the-history-of-fedora/ Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:52:11 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but we can BE BETTER, only adding more 1 year of updates to the packages!! With this improvement on the project the number of users/collaborators will increase!! It's good for fedora, for red hat, for US... for the FOSS world! Fedora is a good distro and can be much better! This is the way! I think that we all agree on this point, an infinite support would be even better :p I just doubt that people in the fedora project are willing to maintain 4 releases, some people already don't maintain their packages for the n-1 release now. I'm not arguing against you, in an ideal world it would be great. I'm just being realistic. The real and simple answer to this LTS problem would be for RedHat to offer RHEL workstation for free (yes, the killed product), without support. The maintenance effort has already been made for RHEL and you are not losing any customers IMO. Serious businesses pay their subscriptions and the others already use CentOS. Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Self-Introduction: Steven Moix
Hi all, As you can probably see, I'm Steven Moix from Switzerland. Currently I'm a student in engineering at the COMEM department of a Swiss university of applied sciences (HEIG-VD). COMEM stands for “Communication, Engineeing and Management”, think about it as IT + Economics. I also work as a Linux system administrator at Axianet.ch, the company that I founded with a friend in 2003. This is for the Linux experience part. You can also see my linkedin profile for a more complete background: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Steven/Moix Why join the marketing team: I speak french, so I consult the French news websites. I noticed that there are a lot of Ubuntu news (about one every week), a bit less OpenSuse news (about one every month) but not many Fedora news at all. This is where I want to help. I wrote some articles for some of the major French websites and I still have good contacts with people working there. My idea is to push more Fedora news on these websites to increase the Fedora brand awareness. Any comments? Have a nice day Steven Moix -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
