Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility
Daniel J Celta wrote, On 3 Dec 2009 17:45:33 -0600: Ok I got it... My appologies Sent from my iPhone Daniel J Celta Is it possible to convince those phones to bottom post? On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net wrote: On 12/03/2009 06:29 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote: David, Maybe the problem is Red Hat Not sure why !?? I will try FC10 tonight at home. The error I am getting is when trying under Red Hat enterprise 5.4 Any idea why? This is a fedora email list, not RHEL. The answer I gave was for F10. The RPMs you want exist in updates and fedora repos However there are some Fedora folks who like RHEL too: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL #$ yum info ntfs\*|grep Repo Repo : epel Repo : epel Repo : epel However, I make no guarantees on how well ntfsprogs works. good luck. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 NFS Failures
John Austin wrote, On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:58 +: On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 15:00 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/21/2009 10:41 AM, John Austin wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 11:11 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 10:09 +, John Austin wrote: When copying a large file (2.7GB) from the server to the F12 m/c a complete freeze of the F12 machine occurs. I haven't seen freezes, but I have seen corruption when trying to copy large files (e.g. like a DVD iso image) via NFS. In fact, this happened to me when I was trying to install an F12 virtual machine on my F11 box (so I could try it out before deciding whether or not to bite the bullet and upgrade the host OS). I copied over the DVD iso image, then tried to install a VM from it, and it failed the media test. Sure enough, it also failed the sha256sum test. Copying the same DVD iso file via scp instead worked fine. I do not trust NFS for large files. --Greg Hi Greg That's interesting and very worrying - surely it can't/shouldn't happen! I have been using NFS for years for all types/sizes of files and never had a problem until the last couple of months. 1. The Centos/RHEL 5.3/5.4 kernel had a serious bug that has been fixed with the latest kernel update 2. Now this F12 problem Surely a very large worldwide community uses NFS ? OK the F12 case could be my finger trouble or even a hardware problem I will install F12 on a second machine and test again (against the same server) Can you verify that you run into the same issue if you run NFS over TCP as opposed to NFS over UDP (it's an option in the mount command on the client, use either proto=tcp or proto=udp). By default, the system queries the server and selects a protocol based on what's being asked of it. See the TRANSPORT METHODS section of man nfs. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - The Theory of Rapitivity: E=MC Hammer- - -- Glenn Marcus (via TopFive.com) - -- Hi Rick Many thanks for the reply - you have found a work-around !! Just tested my machine with UDP and TCP This was using md5sum for about 10GB over the NFS mount 1. The default for F12/Centos5.4 appears to be TCP - which freezes 2. Forcing UDP gives NO errors for 10GB transfer 3. Forcing TCP gives a freeze Having briefly read the man pages this is the opposite of what I would expect and of what you suggest !! There must be a timing problem somewhere - Please see the other thread Sky2 NIC Problem? - Was F12 NFS Failures for other tests I have carried out Regards John what are your other mount options? having seen the Sky2 NIC Problem message, your card/driver may be having issues, but some nfs options may help/hurt. I am assuming that you only have 'hard' and not 'hard,intr' as options to the mount. And for transferring large files over NFS, I have had experiences that say stay away from 'soft' NFS. it is interesting that TCP nfs locks the machine and fails to copy the very large file, while UDP succeeds in copying the same file with the same device/drver. BTW when you say that UDP gave no errors, do you mean that from the user program perspective (cp, and then sha256sum) there were no errors, or that from both the user and syslog perspective there were no errors? I am wondering if you have found a place where the UDP code deals with a bad packet correctly and the TCP version has not seen enough (bad environment) testing. Wouldn't happen to have a serial cable around so you can capture where the kernel goes bonkers at would you? (note, never done the serial console myself.) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
LyX too complex? ... Re: Automatic page numbering in OpenOffice
Fernando Cassia wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote: From: Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote: If you just want to create quality looking documents and you want it easy try LyX. It's TeX based document processor ROFL!! You could also tell him to use vi and type postscript by hand. Someone is complaining that he finds OpenOffice hard to use and you refer him to even more obscure applications that only math freaks love... FC I'm not freak. I have a lot of complexes but not a complex of idiot. ... ... However I am heavily against forcing users to adapt to complex applications with user-hostile interfaces in the age of modern, user-friendly apps like OpenOffice. FC I should probably let it go... And this does not even attempt to answer the OPs question of how to do the thing in OOo... FC, what is your favorite Word Processing program? (some how I get the feeling that you have at least dabbled in other WPs than word a-likes, and I am curious.) * LyX, Complex as compared to Word/OOo? As long as I am only changing the font size and color, Word/OOo MIGHT win. * I am not a math person. * I have given up on trying to write anything other than the big (32pt font) red don't open this door on penalty of death. signs with word or open office, because I use lists quite often (ugh, I am even doing it here :) and doing lists in word/OOo is (to me) only a path to madness (especially nested lists). * have you tried LyX (lately)? LyX is not vi, and it is not an emacs front end to TeX. Knowledge of (La)Tex is not required for normal things. I think that for most things a person could get to creating usable documents by typing the text of one of their documents in and then learning what effects choosing other than 'Standard' in the drop down box has on each line of their text. or take the easy route and read Help - Introduction and Help - Tutorial ... Total of 47 pages if a person reads them all instead of just picking the bits of interest. and if only chapter 2 (7 pages) of the Tutorial was read, the AVERAGE word processor user could probably accomplish most of the USEFUL things they do in the average word processor fairly quickly. Granted I also believe the _average_ word processor user does not read any manual unless some one makes them, and I did not read much of the LyX docs until I wanted to do some less than normal things. BTW thanks to Rex we can `yum install lyx` and have a taste quickly. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Re: Firewall and nfs mounts
Anne Wilson wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 00:16:28 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 15:44:20 Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/24/2009 08:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client need any ports opened? If you can limit yourself to NFSv4 you're much better off in this department. I have this on an NFSv4 server: # NFS -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --source 192.168.1.32/27 --dport 2049 -j ACCEPT and nothing on a working client other than the standard: -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Thanks. That's something to work on. Although I have had a working firewall in the past, I'm not really familiar with iptables setup. Since a gui tool was provided I expected it to do the necessary (this is system-config- securitylevels on CentOS) but it doesn't. I used shorewall to set up my firewall long ago, and I'm beginning to think I might be better of seeing if there's a package for CentOS. Gui tools seem nice, but I don't like the fact that they rarely tell you what the are and aren't doing. When it comes to a shorewall package for CentOS or RHEL you can enable the EPEL repository https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Thanks, Ed. I should be able to get to that tomorrow. The thing is that I only want nfs across the lan. The router would stop any external attempts to use nfs mounting, so it seems to me that trusting the local zone might be all that's needed. I think that is straightforward, IIRC, in shorewall. Anne Anne, If you are using NFS V2/3 instead of 4 (TCP) then the following might be as useful to you as it was to me. :) http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-3259 Of course if you had time/inclination you would be using something other than the 1-10005 range where everyone will now be looking for your NFS, if they could only find a way to get past your router. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Re: Unable to kill runaway app. -
Rick Stevens wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: Todd Denniston wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: I've added the option soft to the client /etc/fstab which may make it possible to interrupt things? That is, if I have done the right thing in the right place. Bob Assuming that after you reboot[1], the situation is better with soft, I would suggest going back to hard but use the intr[2] option. i.e. server:/usr/local/pub/pub nfshard,intr I have seen soft loose data on networks that are some what loaded, with out even giving you any error notifications. The probability seemed somewhat proportional with how many times larger the file you are writing is than the wsize parameter. It's lose (as in lost) not loose (as in running wild). English lessons aside, I sometimes dislike my 'mother' tongue. did you use TCP instead of the default UDP on that heavily loaded network? was not available on the server of that time (Solaris 2.6 or was it 2.5). [1] so that the process that is currently stuck and CAN NOT be killed is finally terminated. :) [2] man nfs|grep -3 EINTR or read the man and search for intr -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Re: Unable to kill runaway app. -
Bob Goodwin wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: I've added the option soft to the client /etc/fstab which may make it possible to interrupt things? That is, if I have done the right thing in the right place. Bob Assuming that after you reboot[1], the situation is better with soft, I would suggest going back to hard but use the intr[2] option. i.e. server:/usr/local/pub/pub nfshard,intr I have seen soft loose data on networks that are some what loaded, with out even giving you any error notifications. The probability seemed somewhat proportional with how many times larger the file you are writing is than the wsize parameter. [1] so that the process that is currently stuck and CAN NOT be killed is finally terminated. :) [2] man nfs|grep -3 EINTR or read the man and search for intr -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: reliable gigabit NICs for fedora?
Tom Horsley wrote, On 08/03/2009 09:41 PM: I see just enough complaints about various gigabit network adapters in various versions of linux that I'm slightly leery of just buying whatever I can find and slapping it in the system :-). Anyone using gigabit (and actually using the bandwidth too :-) who can recommend some adapters that work well in fedora 11? I've got PCI as well as PCIE 1x slots available (PCI only in some systems though). suggestion try asking on the drbd list. (or just Google the list a bit) http://lists.linbit.com/mailman/listinfo/drbd-user IIRC with at least some of the _earlier_ broadcoms there were issues on that list with the offloading functions. Quick summary of drbd: RAID 1 across a network, i.e., have the network _try_ to keep up with the rate you are pushing data to a hard drive. :) They should know what the current state with respect to the question asked. http://www.drbd.org/users-guide/re-drbdconf.html#data-integrity http://www.drbd.org/fileadmin/users-guide/s-integrity-check.html http://www.google.com/#hl=enq=card+corruption+site%3Alists.linbit.com%2Fpipermail%2Fdrbd-user%2Faq=foq=aqi=fp=-Pw1cEIpNGU http://www.drbd.org/ - nice drawing of what drbd does. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Autofs issues in F11
Joseph L. Casale wrote, On 07/24/2009 12:15 AM: suggestion # cat /etc/auto.music music -rw,hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 10.0.0.4:/Music I tried this and -rw,hard,intr with no luck. Must not be my day, I turned to a couple rhel boxes and set up simple examples right out of man and they aren't working either? Bah, time for bed... Thanks! jlc Joseph, In case you still have not gotten where you want to be. An assumption I made in my earlier reply was that the problem was in the options, not necessarily in other portions of the system. A common problem with today's distributions is that we try to make them secure, i.e., add firewalls and do random port allocations, all of which is good, but it means things are not as simple as they once were (in s many ways). Things to think about: 1) does `mount -orw,hard,intr 10.0.0.4:/Music /mnt` work? 2) does (1) work if you `service iptables stop` on the server? 3) does (1) work if you `service iptables stop` on the client? 4) does (1) work if you `service iptables stop` on the both server client? if you have to resort to (2), (3) or (4) then you need to look at how to configure NFS to work with the firewall(s). suggested starting point: http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-3259 -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum cleanup
Bill Davidsen wrote, On 07/25/2009 08:32 PM: I have been running yum with keepcache=1 to save rpms I install. Being busy I seem to have gotten several versions of some packages in /var/cache/yum. Is there a command which will delete anything listed in obsoletes without losing my copy of the most recent? I create a local archive of recent rpms to be nice to my network. Using 'yum clean' does too much. :-( repomanage -c -k 2 --old path/to/cacheOfRPMs/ removethese.txt #and then (after sanity checking removethese.txt) for i in `cat removethese.txt`;do rm $i;done might get you close. Note, AFAIK the repomanage command does NOT have to be ran against a YUM repo. Note 2, using -k 1 keeps 1 vs -k 2 keeping 2. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Autofs issues in F11
Joseph L. Casale wrote, On 07/23/2009 09:20 PM: I am having some trouble setting up an automount. # cat /etc/auto.master |grep foo /foo/etc/auto.music # cat /etc/auto.music music -fstype=nfs,rw,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 10.0.0.4:/Music # showmount 10.0.0.4 -e Export list for 10.0.0.4: /Music 10.0.0.0/24 # service autofs status automount (pid 4084) is running... /foo exists, yet it doesn't automount when accessed and messages shows nothing? Any hints? Thanks! jlc suggestion # cat /etc/auto.music music -rw,hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 10.0.0.4:/Music afaik mount can figure out that it is an nfs mount when it sees 10.0.0.4:/Music and soft mounts (often) silently ignore problems, hard,intr will give you similar enough semantics. and does it work without the ,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 ? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some issues in F11
Bradley wrote, On 06/27/2009 06:16 AM: On 06/26/2009 02:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:15:07 -0500 Bradley wrote: *This means that /Xorg/ is WRONG! *Now, how do I force /Xorg/ to accept the proposed display setting? If you want to play the game, you'd have to download the source rpm for the sis driver and look for the place it prints the illegal horizontal timings message and see what data it is really checking and where that came from and maybe find some place that can influence it - loads of fun if you have nothing better to do :-). Short of that there might actually be a sis man page that describes options you can set in xorg.conf to tell the driver things (like maybe ignore what you imagine to be the horizontal timing limit). Ugh! My wife won't like to hear about me spending my time on that. But, if I don't have any other choice Bradley Another option might be submitting a bugzilla entry against Xorg to inform the developers that X has and should work with these settings, and thus Xorg has a bug. They might already know which line to change. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel update broke my system.
Smith, Herb wrote, On 05/29/2009 02:27 PM: Can't boot into anything when all you get is the GRUB_ prompt. Wrote to the help me list to figure out what to do to get my system back. Once I get it back I'll be able to try a lot of different things. From the respones of some, it seems that it's an issue with GRUB, but it's unclear that there is an underlying kernel issue or not. It would seem that the kernel might be ok, but just that GRUB got hosed in the update process. Which is why I am still curious ... On an installed system, WHY do we need to reinstall _grub_ when there is a kernel UPDATE? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-October/msg01189.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=432555 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472829 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450143 Yes there may be/probably is a problem with grub or the grub reinstall process, but to what purpose (besides to keep this set of bugs open) is grub being reinstalled for a kernel update. What is the problem that reinstalling grub with kernel updates is solving? Granted I am assuming that it is something other than the kernel maintainer is just too lazy to remove the grub reinstall calls from either the kernel spec file or /sbin/new-kernel-pkg. Yes, I do realize that the previous kernel is still there, but was also curious as to what could cause this. It appears, from the lack of traffic on the topic that not many have had this issue. Wondered if it was a hiccup in the download process that caused an install to go bad, or if there was something unique to my system that caused it to go bad... Sorry for trying to understand... Herb Smith -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dgbo...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:49 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Kernel update broke my system. On 5/29/2009 1:16 PM, David Burns wrote: Is there a way to test whether my system has this problem without rebooting? Dave the Updater is doing that job, and it nuked my system too. You do realize that the kernel that was running when you did the update is still installed? This one that broke my system.. This one that nuked my system too.. And that you can boot into it instead of this new one? Why don't you do that and report this kernel problem to bugzilla? That would surely get the attention of the kernel maintainers more effectively than post to a general 'help me' list. -- -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
Clemens Eisserer wrote, On 05/22/2009 07:50 AM: crash of what? details? Plasma of course. I already filed a bug with a complete stack-trace. Like I did with all the other crashes I've reported with a full stack-trace, which haven't been looked at. (Except for the first-level guys sorting dups out). - Clemens and it is bugzilla # what, so that we all know WHICH of the stack traces are relevant to this thread? Thanks. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How To Create /home on a Network Drive
Anthony Messina wrote, On 05/10/2009 02:39 AM: no, you're right about that, but i was thinking about this yesterday too. how does one use their linux laptop like some of the coporate folks use their windows laptops? when they're at the office, they use the profile on the server; when they're away, they use the roaming copy of the profile. does such a thing exist for us? i got to thinking about some crazy rsync script that would run just before disconnecting and right after reconnecting to the home network, but that's a kludge. anyone doing something like the linux road warrior? Another (probably) crazy solution might be coda http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/ http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/misc/stability.html http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/maillists/coda-announce/0083.html I have not used it yet, but it has always looked neat. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up CVS repository and avoiding Selinux issues?
Daniel B. Thurman wrote, On 04/28/2009 10:07 PM:
I am trying to get my CVS repository setup. Apparently,
it appears that the repository must be in the root directory,
otherwise I get selinux permission denials.
What I tried to do initially was to locate the repository
on a NTFS filesystem for which the context is fusefs
which could not be changed, no matter what I tried.
I got selinux permission errors.
using a non Unix file system on a Unix system for your CVS repo will likely
cause much hate and discontent while trying to manage permissions.
Giving that up, I moved the repository to a ext3 filesystem
located on a separate drive/partition, mounted on /f-App1,
where the repository is located @ /f-App1/Develop/cvs, and did:
cd /f-App1/Develop/
chown -R cvs:cvs cvs
chcon -R -t cvs_data_t cvs
find cvs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find cvs -type t -exec chmod 754 {} \;
ln -s /f-App1/Develop/cvs /cvs
Are you looking to use :pserver: here? Have you considered ssh?
and I got selinux complaining that the files are not /cvs rooted.
Can you give the ACTUAL error(s) from selinux CVS?
So I did:
cp -a /f-App1/Develop/cvs /cvs1
rm -f /cvs
ln -s /cvs1 /cvs
And it worked.
How can I place my repository in a non-rooted, non-standard
repository location and avoid the selinux complaints?
I am interested, because I maintain CVS repos on older systems that will
probably migrate when RHEL 6 comes out, but Dan Walsh's blog site is not
accessible.
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Re: PCSCD failure
john wendel wrote, On 04/24/2009 11:11 AM: I'm trying to use a smart card reader, without any luck. I've installed pcscd and whatever else yum pilled in and have 2 new services running (pcscd and ???). The system log shows the following failure to setup the device. I'm stuck. Any clues appreciated. Thanks, John Apr 22 13:50:58 Godzilla1 pcscd: pcscdaemon.c:498:main() pcsc-lite 1.4.102 daemon ready. Apr 22 13:50:59 Godzilla1 pcscd: hotplug_libhal.c:342:HPAddDevice() Adding USB device: usb_device_9c3_8_50108525_if0 Apr 22 13:51:00 Godzilla1 pcscd: readerfactory.c:1082:RFInitializeReader() Attempting startup of ActivCard USB Reader 2.0 00 00 using /usr/lib/pcsc/drivers/ifd-ccid.bundle/Contents/Linux/libccid.so it looks like you have a ActivCard USB Reader V2, http://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/iManufacturer.html with usb product id 0x0008 http://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/unsupported.html#0x09C30x0008 Some folks have had luck upgrading the firmware on SOME instances of that hardware with the latest firmware from SCM for the SCR-331. see http://lists.drizzle.com/pipermail/muscle/ If it works then you now have a reader that acts like a http://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/supported.html#0x04E60xE001 if it don't work I suspect you have a very light paperweight at the end, and then again, that is pretty much what you got now. Before buying later I would suggest looking more at the pcsclite lists: http://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/supported.html http://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/section.html Good luck. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: File server
Arun Shrimali wrote, On 04/22/2009 06:19 AM: Dear All, I am planning to set up a server with the following features : 1.File server where users can save their critical data, in their home directory 2.Space allocation for individual user on server (quota for home directory). 3.Users could change their own user password. 4.Client (PC and User) should authenticate from centralized location. 5.No other user / PC should allow to patch in the network. 6.Should work for Windows and Linux clients both. 7.Restrict users to load unwanted software and play with desktops / screen savers and other files (may be through login script). 8.Centrally updation of antivirus patches (for windows users). 9.Monitor the users and their activity. 10.Authenticate for Squid proxy server also. 11.Should able to chat through lin/win popup Can anybody suggest me which directory server (and combination) would be suitable for me. As I am new to the Linux, it should be a bit user friendly also regards Arun Something I don't see you having in your features/requirements that you should be asking yourself: 12.how long do I plan on having this machine in service? * if the answer is less than 14 months (until ~July 2010), fedora 11 could be a good distro for you[1]. * if the answer is more on the order of until ~late March 2014, you should probably look at RedHat Enterprise Linux[2a], CentOS[2b], or one of the other Long Term Support (LTS) distros. * if you need an LTS distro, but some of the features you want require fedora 11, you should probably be considering (assuming RHEL 6 follows F11 fairly closely) how and when you could do a cut over from using F11 to RHEL/CentOS6 [3]. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule [2a] http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/errata/ [2b] http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-fe8a0be91ee3e7dea812e8694491e1dde5b75e6d [3] Oh great and powerful oracle fedora-list, is it possible to do an 'upgrade' and go from a fedora to an RHEL, and remain sane, with out the upgrade being a backup data, wipe and install+restore data? Anyone done it? howto URLs? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: who can introduce me some good redhat linux book and download links
Nathan Huang wrote, On 04/19/2009 12:57 PM: Hi guys I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically. thanks in advance nathan It is not an E book, and it is becoming a bit dated (when compared to Fedora, but matches up fair with RHEL), but it gives a well rounded look at doing Linux system admin and gets you ready for the Linux+ test[1] to boot: Linux+ Study Guide, 3rd Edition (XKO-002) by Roderick W. Smith (Author) # Paperback: 592 pages # Publisher: Sybex; 3 edition (February 9, 2005) # Language: English # ISBN-10: 078214389X # ISBN-13: 978-0782143898 http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Study-Guide-3rd-XKO-002/dp/078214389X/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8qid=1197930323sr=11-1 I expect a new book will need to come out sometime shortly as CompTIA is preparing to update the test to version XK1-003 [2] [1] http://certification.comptia.org/linux/ [2] http://certification.comptia.org/linux/betainfo.aspx -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 and Suse 11.0 ssh do not work together
Dave Feustel wrote, On 04/20/2009 06:32 PM: I am running 32-bit fedora 9 and 64-bit Suse 11.0 and 64-bit OpenBSD 4.4 on a local net. Ssh does not work between F9 and Suse 11.0. Ssh from f9 to Suse times out. An ssh connection from Suse to F9 is refused by F9. Ssh from F9 to OpenBSD works. Ssh from OpenBSD to Suse times out at login. SSh from OpenBSD to F9 is denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic). I was surprised that these 3 system do not talk to each other with their default config files. Is there a common set of config files with which all ssh connections work? Thanks. Is there a firewall installed on the SUSE machine? Is the firewall setup to pass SSH? Are you sure you get (publickey,gssapi-with-mic) when going from BSD to F9? Because this message would indicate that you are not using the default config file on F9, it would also indicate that the F9 firewall is not blocking incoming SSH connections, but you should be getting the same message when going from SUSE to F9. BTW (publickey,gssapi-with-mic) means that the sshd on the machine being connected TO has been configured to only allow connections authenticated with one of publickey or gssapi-with-mic methods. Also by default Fedora, and probably other distros, usually setup their firewalls to block connections to all privileged ports and allow the administrator to pick which ports they want to have open, so the install is more secure from the start. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: /var/log/messages is empty
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote, On 04/19/2009 08:53 PM: Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 04/19/2009 02:29:38 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: logrotate moves /var/log/messages to /var/log/messages-todaysdate once in a while. Thanks, but that's not the problem. I've got several rotated logs with content, and one without. I think you may have missed the point: If logrotate swapped it, and nothing new has been logged, it could be empty. # logger Foo # tail /var/log/messages What you get? r...@pvr[7]-logger Foo r...@pvr[8]-tail /var/log/messages r...@pvr[9]- It sounds like the log file may have been deleted/recreated without rsyslog being restarted. Try running service rsyslog reload or service rsyslog restart and see if that helps. It is possible for a process to keep writing to a file it had open, even if the file has ben deleter. Mikkel Which fedora? I have seen a symptom like this before. suggestion, check to see how many sysloger's you have... rpm -qa |grep syslog https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441664 Though I think Peter fixed it so they should work together now (at least for F10). -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
Tim wrote, On 03/30/2009 12:51 PM: That sort of decision would be based on popularity (a problem you'd like to see overcome, and could be overcome, given enough of a push, but whether we have the numbers is another matter), and whether the certificate authority is effective enough to support (i.e. why add any root certificate that proves very little). Then there's trying to convince organisations to use less trust worthy root certificates. Who wants their service to be flagged by web browsers as encrypted but a bit risky? It's perceptual, and ignoring the fact that existing, apparently better certificates, are currently used by some services that don't prove who they are any better than the lesser known root certificates. But that's the point of certificates - how things *look* to the casual observer. It is too bad we can't (as currently implemented) take a slightly less brutal tact than Mr. Wolff has suggested. i.e., sure all the root CA's that the browser producers want to include can come in, but they should have trust DBs that allow each user to tick: * Never trust this key. (and by extension anything it has signed. Perhaps with a pop up indicating 'the sig is ok, according to bla, but bla is a known idiot.') * Marginal trust. (pop up something saying 'the sig is ok, according to bla, but you are uncomfortable with bla.') * Fully trust. (operate as CA's in web browsers since they started getting CA's.) And by default (as released by the browser producers) the keys should be set to either Never or Marginal. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Efficient Create Swap File?
Mike McCarty wrote, On 03/27/2009 04:01 PM: I've seen various recommendations for adding swap files after system creation, and it occurs to me that the standard technique may not be the most efficient. I realize that one rarely creates swap files, but nonetheless on occasion one needs to precreate some file or other, then do something to it, like mkfs etc. Anyway, mostly trying to improve my general knowledge of how best to use the abilities of the system, and my understanding of the relative merits of doing things one way vs. another, not trying to speed up rarely performed procedures. The standard technique is to do something like $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/new/file bs=1024 count=524288 $ mkswap /path/to/new/file to create a 512MB file. The second command may be different, depending upon the circumstances, but the technique remains the same. In effect, the new file gets written twice. It occurs to me that one could, instead, do $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/new/file bs=1M seek=511 count=1 $ mkswap /path/to/new/file and have the same results, requiring only writing the file once. SNIP My guess is that when the swap file with a hole first gets used, there will be a long(ish?) pause while some part or parts of the sparse file get filled in. This is not so good for a swap file, but when one is actually going to rewrite most of the file anyway, and is only using the file itself as more or less an indicator of the size, then it might make sense. Comments? Mike This brings up a question for me... If using the first method, while in use or during the mkswap command, does the bits written to the file end up at the same physical locations as the 0s they are replacing? if they do, then the first method on a disk that is not fragmented, would give you a contiguous swap space. if they don't, then like you say, what is the point of writing all the 0s to disk? So then do we have to think about our file systems? msdos/vfat would write to the same locations I think. ext2 would write to the same locations I think. ext3 without journaling, would write to the same locations I think.??? ext3 with journaling, pathology??? ext4 with/without journaling, I have not used or read about.??? riser??? others??? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OS hiccups
Smith, Herb wrote, On 03/23/2009 11:07 AM: All, I'm running Fedora 10 and have been very happy with it. Within the last week, however, the OS seems to be experiencing momentary hangups of some sort where all activity stops for 10 or 15 seconds. The cursor won't move, web pages won't scroll, etc. This occurs not only in Firefox, but generally regardless of what I'm doing. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? Home directory on NFS/SAMBA/AFS/other network file system? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Maple on Fedora
Dave Feustel wrote, On 03/20/2009 04:47 PM: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:41:17PM +0300, Hiisi wrote: Has anyone experience using Maple on Fedora? Any comments? Thanks. Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's brilliant. -- Hiisi. I have Maxima, but no hard copy manual. I am looking for a company to publish the manual as a book to make it easier to read. Is the Maxima documentation in PDF, or do you know how to get it into that state? http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=printing.services++pdfbtnG=Search http://fedex.com/us/office/copyprint/copy/digital_printing.html?lid=Learnmore_printcopyfinish_digitalprinting http://www.rushprintingservices.com/ http://www.printrunner.com/ ... I am not saying it's cheap, just available. Also had you noticed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems ...wow, it's been a while since I looked for these things, I did not realize there were so many open source ones. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new thing to make people turn crazy
François Patte wrote, On 03/17/2009 04:08 PM: Bonsoir, I plugged an usb drive on my computer and, instead of being mounted as usual, a popup window opened claiming that some application was trying to mount a device and... I had to enter the root password!!! What's this mess? The story is not finished: I discovered a config tool for this in SystemPrefssystempermission which run the polkit-gnome-authorization. *As a simple user*, not root, I found a line: mount file systems from removable drive for which the permission is set, by default, to: No for everybody. *as simple user* (again), I changed this permission to yes for everybody I am wondering what is the meaning of this: either it is something that everybody can do and no tool is needed, or it is important that only root can modify some system wide config and, in that case this tool is a nonsense. You might also enjoy following this thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00934.html and these bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489397 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450304 which discuss some interesting things about PolicyKit and DeviceKit. Hopefully the reason you could change the mount file systems from removable drive permissions was because you first entered the root password for the first popup, if however it was not then please open a bug describing that problem. it would be new but related to 450304. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: removing autorun from a flash drive
Bruno Wolff III wrote, On 03/10/2009 05:34 PM: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 14:38:54 -0500, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well I may be misleading you. I had to do some removal of software when I originally bought the device. It would not load on Fedora so I removed some software under XP. Then it would appear in Fedora but still had some U3 stiff remaining. That is what I removed on my Fedora machine. Sorry I forgot what I had done originally. Repartitioning the raw device would probably work. You would then create a filesystem on the partition. No, if you repartition the device, you wipe out the ability for the U3 removal tool to work, but the fake CD remains IIRC. DON'T delete the partitions until after removing the tool! Can I remove U3 technology from my USB drive? http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1450#Q13 or U3 Launchpad Removal Tool http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1415 -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Label Program reccomendations ??
Tim wrote, On 03/10/2009 12:50 PM: It all became too much of a pain... I could, about 80% of the time, get labels to go through one of my old inkjets, before it died. But, it didn't always print in the same place (vertical-wise). And, thanks to programming idiots who play silly games with DPI, it was impossible to print where I wanted. i.e. On my much older computer and printer, if I said a box started 12 cm down, and 5 cm across, was 3 cm high and 5 cm wide, then it printed exactly as I specified. On the newer gear, where it threw away standards, and turned them into arbitrary unspecified figures, I had to waste paper doing test prints and making tiny unpredictable adjustments, to get things to print right. I really hate pinheads who stuff things up until it *seems* to work for them, without understanding what they're doing. It stuffs things up for everyone *else* in an unmanageable way. Are you speaking of gimp/gutenprint? IIRC after I had a few discussions with Robert about why my postscript circles were coming out as ellipses, he included an option in the new gutenprints so that you could turn off the 'shrink to fit'. It might be better for you now, if you go toggle that option in CUPS. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to re-lock ssh private key?
Robert Nichols wrote, On 03/03/2009 02:29 PM: Todd Zullinger wrote: Robert Nichols wrote: The process at the other end of $SSH_AUTH_SOCK is gnome-keyring-daemon -d -login. That process gets created when I log in. Killing it doesn't strike me as a good idea. Indeed, other keyring related stuff breaks if I do that. You can tell the keyring daemon not to provide ssh-agent services. Perhaps doing that and using the ssh-agent from openssh (which I believe is still started automatically if no agent is running already). To disable ssh services in gnome-keyring-daemon: gconftool-2 --set -t bool /apps/gnome-keyring/daemon-components/ssh false Some very thin documentation on gnome-keyring-daemon's ssh handling is at: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Ssh Again, thanks for the effort, but NO-GO! I tried changing the setting for that boolean to false, both with gconftool-2 and with the GUI gconf-editor, and also by running gconftool-2 as root. No change, nada, zip! Log out, log back in, reboot, ..., no change at all. Unsetting the environment variable for SSH_ASKPASS (edited /etc/profile.d/gnome-ssh-askpass.sh so that the variable never gets set) changes nothing. The only thing that has an effect is unsetting SSH_AUTH_SOCK, and doing that means that the passphrase is required _every_time_. If SSH_AUTH_SOCK is unset or the socket is not present, ssh-add fails with Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. Looks like the only options are (a) use gnome-keyring-daemon and accept that the key is unlocked forever, or (b) use nothing and enter the passphrase every time. I am not sure where to modify it now days, but IIRC ssh-agent is started before your window manager is going in the xinitrc. it used to be around line 62 of /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc-common My guess is the -t needs applied to THAT instance of ssh-agent. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mount added drive -
Bob Goodwin wrote, On 02/26/2009 02:45 PM: Now I'm stuck. The simplest thing would be to reinstall the system but bandwidth for updates is killing me. Wildblue is a satellite service and I'm limited to 17 Gigs/30 days. I hate to keep burning up my bw. Suggestion: 1) in /etc/yum.conf set keepcache=1 2) every so often copy the contents of /var/cache/yum/updates/packages/ (or if your on F9 /var/cache/yum/updates-newkey/packages/) to an external media (DVDs/USBHD). 3) when you have to reinstall you can copy the rpms back to the packages/ directory and yum will see them and know that it does not have to re download them. [it still has to get/extract the headers, but they are small.] This is also a useful trick when you have several machines to update that are running nearly the same install, i.e., by copying packages/ from the first to later machines, the later machines only have to download the packages that the first machine was not running. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash plugin doesn't show CJK text
·Åºû¤¤ wrote, On 02/19/2009 08:47 AM: Hello all, SNIP decent description of problem Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Probably. [my bet is on some font path problem] However you will be more likely to get an answer if you follow: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Starting_a_New_Subject -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Never-ending boot progress
Tim Clarke wrote, On 02/10/2009 08:55 AM: -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Tim Clarke I've just put missing /etc/inittab and /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit files into place - no difference. Then I've amended grub as you suggested: last line is Switching to new root and running init Looks like this is the same clue as above ;-) The init sequence is non-existent! Tim Clarke Dang - anyone have any idea how to repair this, please? Tim Clarke Original message: Tim Clarke wrote, On 02/09/2009 11:31 AM: Hi - can anyone help with an install issue pls? On reboot after (several repeated!) seemingly good installs I just get the progress bar at the bottom of the screen that slowly becomes fully white. On pressing ESC i get four lines saying reading logical volumes found vol0... found vol1... 2 volumes in group vol0 now active but no disk activity! I've left it overnight but its just hung there. Any additional diagnosis steps I can perform here? Tim Clarke So I take it that the summary of the problem is: 'I do an install and when I reboot the system it just keeps rebooting, because the _install_failed_ to install all the stuff init needs to get going.' [A standard Red Hat\Fedora fault, since RH6, when anaconda blows a fuse.] Suggestion 1, see if the anaconda log[1] shows anything interesting. Suggestion 2, see if there are any anaconda bugs that look similar in the bugzilla. Suggestion 2.5, if the anaconda log[1] shows any failures or other interesting things, and there are no similar open bugs, consider opening a BZ Bug against anaconda and inserting the log in the Bug, or if there is a similar one add your comments and log to it. Suggestion 3, somewhere in this thread you mentioned 'a failure to load agpgart', so I suggest trying to install in text mode, and change to X mode after install. [1] IIRC /root/anaconda.log or /var/log/anaconda.[something] of the installed system, or /var/log/[something, I think messages] of the install system while installing. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firewire HDD causes hard lockups
William M. Quarles wrote, On 02/09/2009 07:57 PM: Hey all, I have a Futura Mobile Storage Solution 3.5 External IDE HDD Enclosure with USB 2.0 and Firewire support. I'm having problems using it with my Firewire connection. I was thinking about submitting a report to Bugzilla, but wanted to get some feedback first. SNIP The drive is formatted with NTFS, as it was originally inside a Windows XP Pro computer, and I am now using it to back up my files on my laptop while running Windows XP Pro. I tried repartitioning and reformatting in Windows XP, but Fedora 10 installation complained again and the computer locked up hard sometime later again. Any thoughts? There should probably still be a BZ if this fixes it, and I would have expected the same problem using the USB connection, i.e., mention in the bug that same drive with USB works fine, either they should both break or both work. partition the drive with a Linux partitioner. format the partition NTFS using XP Pro as before, but be VERY careful to make the format program use the PARTITION as opposed to the WHOLE DRIVE, which IIRC MS defaults to whole drive. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Morph software
Bill Davidsen wrote, On 02/07/2009 11:13 PM: Paul-Erik Törrönen wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:02 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm looking for some morphing software, to take two images, and generate some intermediate images to show the effect of a smooth transition from one to the other. One such program is the convert-command, which is part of the ImageMagick-package. It can do primitive shape morphing, for more information go here: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1t=11263 I've used convert only to do fade-morph frames between images taken of the same view, which then are fed to mencoder to produce a video. I can publish the shell-script which I created to accomplish this if you're interested? I Appreciate the offer, and you probably should publish for people looking for a fade solution, but I'm really looking for a full shape and color morph. I have an old program which I pulled off a Win98 machine which did a pretty good job, but it uses gif format, won't run under wine, and generally is pretty impractical other than as a proof of concept. I'm surprised at the lack, I'll keep looking. Search turned up a number of things which sounded hopeful but had serious issues between the description and the performance. Thanks for the pointer. with gimp load image 1 on image 1's window select File-Open as Layer- pick image 2 Open the Layers dialog insert a Layer that is background color (call it Clean). duplicate image 1's layer (Background). Sort the layers such that you see image 2 Background copy Clean Background Delete Background. on image 1's window select Script-Fu - Animators - Blend set number of frames, blur and if you want it looped (no loop I think.). hit OK. There is probably a way that you don't have to play with the layers as I did above, and figuring out how to save each layer (frame) as a frame file is left as an exorcise for the reader (involves making successive layers invisible and saving a frame). Also this was with gimp 2.2.12 so the names of the menus and scripts have probably been changed to protect the guilty. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Primer to explain how to boot a second Test Fedora under Fedora 10 with VM
Leslie Satenstein wrote, On 02/06/2009 07:57 AM: It may be off topic, Question was not necessarily, way of asking was. Please see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Starting_a_New_Subject http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#No_HTML_Mail.2C_Please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html#yahoo Thanks. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using ext2 on SSD drive
Alan Evans wrote, On 02/05/2009 12:34 PM: SNIP Quite separate from your query about ext2 maintenance, you should keep in mind the gotcha I found with ext2, here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-January/msg00198.html My yucky workaround is to change the filesystem in my fstab back to ext3 before each kernel update and change it back to ext2 afterword. -Alan Have you looked at putting a bug in the zilla about this? Seems like it could bite anyone trying to build a mostly read file system with fedora. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ The descriptions with the following don't tie in very well to what you are seeing. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=mkinitrd+ext2 -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network problems
Frank Cox wrote, On 02/05/2009 04:31 PM: On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:49:38 + Aaron Gray wrote: can ping okay but HTTP and FTP are non functional. If you can ping, it's working. If you have no active network connection at all, you won't be able to ping anything other than yourself (localhost, 127.0.0.1, etc) Are you pinging a numeric address but attempting to use http and ftp to a domain name? If so, you have a problem with your dns settings. if pinging with a name and http/ftp with a name, then it _could_ be your ISP requires you to use their proxy, but does not transparently re-route your packets. :) If you can ping some places but not others, then you have a routing problem. If you can ping your internal network but nothing outside, then you have a gateway problem (which is also a routing problem). -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Side effects of allocating more than 4 Gig FC9 64 bit
Steve West wrote, On 02/05/2009 04:53 PM: Hello, I am using FC9 64 bit build. My C service allocates large amount of memory. When the service allocates about 6 or 7 Gig the command system(shutdown -r now) does not seem to work. If the service allocates around 4 gig everything works fine. Even with the system command not working the program seems to run fine. GDB does not offer any clues. Other services are able to run the system command just fine while the large service is running. Any thoughts? Steve and the output of free is? have you disabled the kernels over-commit-memory capability? did you read the following thread? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-January/thread.html#01950 or seen: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-January/msg02866.html -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 - boot - how to get into interactive boot?
Robin Laing wrote, On 02/03/2009 09:37 AM: Hello, Sure, I know to press 'I' but on two machines, it has been a nightmare. One machine it never worked. With faster machines, there is no time to press the button. I found it wouldn't work if the normal Fedora splash screen was up on the screen. I had to press escape to get it to work. If I pressed to soon, the keyboard wouldn't work at all. It all happened so fast. On the second machine, I never got it to work. This machine has encrypted partitions and the password prompt makes it harder. I can just get the Esc button pushed in time for the password to be requested. I then press 'I right after pressing 'Enter.' I get a whole bunch of 'I's before and after the notice but it still continues into udev and on into a normal boot. I never could get it to work. Is there a way to get into interactive mode from grub? When in the boot process is the keyboard input scanned for the Interactive? Before or after the message to press I? And is it a I or i? I have tried both. I think I have had either work, though all is confusion as when I have to use it, for some reason I seem to be in panic/hurry up mode. :) perhaps edit /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and add a `sleep 1` before and after the echo -en $\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup. line. If that works for you, may I suggest filing a bug against the output of `rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit` such that the next version of that rpm includes the sleeps? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] Re: Upgrading old RH server
Kevin Martin wrote, On 02/03/2009 10:25 AM: Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: There's no way to convert the passwords automatically as the hashes used are not reversible by design (otherwise it would just be cheap obfuscation and add no real security). Considering the old method seems to work just fine on FC10, what could I be breaking if I just do that? Do a clean FC10 install, then recover the pertinent files from backup, including that /etc/shadow file which has everyone's current passwords. Sooner or later, everyone will have their password expire and it becomes a moot point, but till then, can I expect things to run fine? Beware the use of the new password scheme if this is a NIS master server and you have any NIS clients that aren't RH/Fedora (recent) machines. I have a mixed bag of AIX, SunOS (8 and 10), and Linux (old RH and newer Fedora) and I had to force the use of the old password algorithms as SunOS 8 and older AIX can't handle the new scheme. Kevin Ashley should also be aware that (at least in my experience), NIS/yppasswd/passwd will use the type of password last set for the user. i.e., when we got rid of our last SunOS box, I had to remove each user's password and have them immediately set a new one, specifically using the `passwd` program to get into the md5sum schema, so it may not be as easy as letting everyone's passwords expire. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: C++ noshowbase ignored
Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote, On 02/03/2009 02:47 PM:
In FC7, the line
...
cout a = 0x setfill('0') hex noshowbase
setw(8) a dec setfill(' ') endl;
...
results in:
a = 0x0x91a1218
Is there something I can do about this?
Mr. Obvious asked, how 'bout changing the code like so:
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cout a = setfill('0') hex noshowbase
setw(8) a dec setfill(' ') endl;
...
or for more pain
http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/sc22/wg21/docs/lwg-defects.html#183
cout resetiosflags(ios_base::showbase)
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Re: Ideal Swap Partition Size
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote, On 01/22/2009 05:20 PM: On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 08:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 12:39 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:49:34 -0800 (PST) Leslie Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com wrote: Regarding swap files and intel architectures. I believe swapping is not by pages, but by segment sizes, which is gruesome, because of performance. Linux always pages - it doesn't use intel segmentation - in fact nobody post 286 era does. Well now that I committed myself , I have question for you Alan,, because I know you know the real answer. Normally, when we talk about VM OSs we discuss a memory space and an address space. VM is supposed to be mapping pages or segments from the address space to the memory space and reverse. I was surprised at your saying that segmentation is not being used in Linux. If it is paging that is being used where is the address space that the pages reside in. In the memory layout of a process we talk about the code, data and stack segments, because in the original PDP-11 architecture a segmentation model was easier to manage than a paging model (the machine could only have 8 pages in each segment, so there wasn't much point). This use of the terminology persists today. However as Alan said every modern machine supports paging so in practice that's what's really happening. It's convenient to keep the segment terminology because there are *logical* differences between the three segments, which the kernel uses in its memory management policy. The term swap is also a holdback from even before the segmentation days, since entire processes would be moved (roll-in/roll-out). When Unix used a segmented model segments were moved instead of whole processes, but it was still called swapping, and the term swap space persists even when it's used for paging. As if you weren't confused enough :-) poc If Aaron is not confused enough, then may I suggest looking over at Ulrich Drepper's paper on LWN What every programmer should know about memory, Part 1 (Introduction Commodity Hardware Today) http://lwn.net/Articles/250967/ At the bottom of the Part 1 article there are links to the other parts. * Part 2 (CPU caches) * Part 3 (Virtual memory) http://lwn.net/Articles/253361/ * Part 4 (NUMA systems) * Part 5 (What programmers can do - cache optimization) * Part 6 (What programmers can do - multi-threaded optimizations) * Part 7 (Memory performance tools) * Part 8 (Future technologies) * Part 9 (Appendices and bibliography) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Update revisor
Kevin Kofler wrote, On 01/15/2009 09:43 PM: Terry Polzin wrote: I'm running F8 Fedora 8 is no longer supported. Please upgrade. Kevin Kofler Kevin, please re read what Terry wrote... upgrading is what he is asking about, though he is asking about how to do it with a specific tool. granted I don't know if THAT tool can do the upgrade he is talking about. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I allow automatic non root access to my non standard USB device ?
Linuxguy123 wrote, On 01/15/2009 04:04 PM: I'm doing some embedded development and my flash programmer has a USB interface. Everything works fine if I program the device as root, but I'd like to be able to do it as a regular user. I get port permission errors if I try to run the programmer as a regular user. $ lsusb SNIP Bus 007 Device 006: ID 15ba:0003 Olimex Ltd. OpenOCD JTAG SNIP My programmer is the Olimex Ltd. OpenOCD JTAG device on bus 7. The documentation for the device says it needs access to /proc/bus/usb. I can allow regular user access by manually issuing a chown command for the port, but then I'd have to do it every time I reboot or unplug the programmer. How do I set it up to happen automatically in F10 ? suggestion: find the udev|hal rules for allowing the console logged in user to use the sound card, and mimic them for your device. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: segmentation error
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote, On 01/14/2009 07:38 AM: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:01 AM, roland rol...@cat.be wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:05:57 +0100, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Follow the instructions at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces and then post the detailed backtrace here. tar uses several libraries. It can be anything, even unstable hardware (such as bad RAM chips). This is the output I get: [r...@tbred roland]# gdb /bin/tar GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.3.0.0-1.159.el4rh) (gdb) run --cvzf buXXX b* Starting program: /bin/tar --cvzf buXXX b* (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0806d4e6 in ?? () (gdb) Quit (gdb) I do not see much of a story here. I hope you do. Run: debuginfo-install tar and repeat poc and don't forget to issue 'bt' to get a back trace before quiting. even with out debug symbols it can sometimes be useful, but is always more useful than you got above. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wifi indicator LED (was Re: Netbook wifi, wlan0 and inet6 address (F10) )
Anne Wilson wrote, On 01/13/2009 03:29 AM: On Monday 12 January 2009 18:56:34 Anne Wilson wrote: Does anyone know how to get the wifi indicator working on the Acer Aspire One? I've done a lot lof work with the wifi today, then suddenly, an hour or so ago, I saw the signal bars drop from 4 to 1. Then I lost the connection. Nothing has changed, in terms of location or additional equipment in the room, and attempting to re-start the connection tells me that it has been disconnected. I've tried fiddling with that switch again, but there is no way of knowing whether it is active or not. sigh I hate mysteries. This morning the netbook connected to the wireless router at bootup. I've still no idea what went wrong yesterday, or why I couldn't scan for a connection. It's as though something turns wifi off and it can't be turned back one. Personally I think it's another form of rsibreak :-) Anne As we all use computers here, we could all occasionally benefit from an rsi time out. :} Assuming you shut the machine down last night after the net stopped working, _perhaps_ it would be useful keep track of what the room/computer temperature and uptime is each time it stops working (from a cold boot) ... It could be that a component is getting hot, or saturated in another way that has a hysteresis curve. Did you also shutdown the router last night too? Have you done anything to see if someone else may be attempting to use/abuse your router, like look at it's recent IDS logs? Might try transferring a couple of fedora install DVD isos across it into /dev/null, or some other throw away storage on the machine, to see if it can only handle so many bits before needing reset. Just ideas. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
free memory use [was: Re: (no subject)]
Rick Stevens wrote, On 01/12/2009 06:14 PM: free reports the high-water mark of swap (the highest usage), not how much is being used NOW. It won't be reset until a reboot occurs. While I agree with pretty much everything else you wrote, the above seems wrong. I have a program used just to suck up memory, it uses every byte it allocates, and here is some output that makes me thing your above comment is at least not *fully* correct: Before sucking memory: $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:514496 505936 8560 0 66156 139176 -/+ buffers/cache: 300604 213892 Swap: 1052248 99281042320 At maximum suckage: $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:514496 509396 5100 0 5368 13528 -/+ buffers/cache: 490500 23996 Swap: 1052248 521616 530632 Just after releasing all sucked memory: $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:514496 70536 443960 0 5360 14516 -/+ buffers/cache: 50660 463836 Swap: 1052248 191564 860684 After some other applications were called for, i.e., bring Thunderbird back to the foreground and start this reply: $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:514496 188460 326036 0 6504 51892 -/+ buffers/cache: 130064 384432 Swap: 1052248 189392 862856 As I recall updatedb will cause similar effects. and _if_the_machine_has_sufficient_main_memory_ so that swap is not needed at the current time, issuing /sbin/swapoff -a /sbin/swapon -a would reset the values free shows for swap usage, and /sbin/swapon -s could be educational before and after the above commands. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sanDisk sansa View (16G mp3 video player) issues
Kevin Kempter wrote, On 01/12/2009 06:08 PM: Hi all; I bought a sanDisk sansa view (16G model). When I plug it into my Fedora 16 (x86_64) box and do a dmesg I see this: usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 usb 2-2: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0781, idProduct=74b0 usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 2-2: Product: Sansa View usb 2-2: Manufacturer: SanDisk usb 2-2: SerialNumber: 03534453443136478010790e6b00893f Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. usb-storage: device found at 3 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning usb-storage: device scan complete usb 2-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 usb 2-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 3 scsi 6:0:0:0: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery Any thoughts on how to correct or should I return it for something else? Thanks in advance fully charged battery? USB hub capable of sustaining the current required to charge the device? I ask because when I was preparing to put data on a 4GB one using a Dell windows computer the other day it did something similar ... then I realized (found that the optical mouse also on that hub did not work anymore) that the current draw had burned out the power in the hub (in Dell monitor hub). So I suggest first charging it (with a non computer USB charger) or using a very powerful USB hub. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sanDisk sansa View (16G mp3 video player) issues
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote, On 01/13/2009 10:36 AM: Todd Denniston wrote: I ask because when I was preparing to put data on a 4GB one using a Dell windows computer the other day it did something similar ... then I realized (found that the optical mouse also on that hub did not work anymore) that the current draw had burned out the power in the hub (in Dell monitor hub). That sounds like a poorly designed hub - the port that is drawing too much is supposed to shut down, and leave the rest of the ports working. Come to think of it, I did not power cycle the hub after the problem started (IIRC it does have power going into it external to USB connection). I just rebooted the computer and when I realized that the mouse was just momentarily flashing when it was pluged back into that hub, I moved the mouse to directly plug into the computer and started waiting for the two sansa's to charge using the external charger. the weird thing at the time was that the keyboard continued to work in that hub, while the mouse and sansa would not. Thanks for the thought about it shutting down for self protection ... perhaps I can just power cycle it and get it working for the mouse _and_ keyboard again. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
McGuffey, David C. wrote, On 01/12/2009 12:36 PM: I almost hate to bring this topic up again because it was beaten to death earlier. However...I'm having a problem with NetworkManager scribbling a bizarre netmask into my *SUPPOSEDLY* static address info for eth0. I get it configured, and it works for a while, then I end up with dns lookup failures. When I go to NetworkManager I find it has duplicated the gateway address (192.168.1.1) into the netmask entry also. Getting static addressing to work under NetworkManager has been nothing short of a hair-pulling experience. The folks working NetworkManager need to understand that not *ALL* linux boxes will travel...some are single-purpose boxes on networks that have a security policy that mandates static addressing. When one checks the static address button, NetworkManager must absolutely stop scribbling in places it shouldn't The responses I have seen to this problem in this list and the fedora-test list summarize as follows: 1) the *CURRENT* NM does not do a (non DHCP) static configuration very well or at all, but they are working on it for a future version, and occasionally DHCP and NM are fun. 2) if your computer does not roam and/or does not use wireless networks, then do the following UNTIL the static network version of NM is ready: service NetworkManager stop /sbin/chkconfig NetworkManager off /sbin/chkconfig network on service network start system-config-network #configure as you # # always have in the past. reboot #if you're feeling frogy. 3) the biggest unfortunate thing about the above is that it may or may not be possible to configure a kickstart postscript to do 2 while installing on a mess of machines in an automated way. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
McGuffey, David C. wrote, On 01/12/2009 04:36 PM: Todd Denniston wrote, On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:14:16 -0500 McGuffey, David C. wrote, On 01/12/2009 12:36 PM: SNIP lookup failures. When I go to NetworkManager I find it has duplicated the gateway address (192.168.1.1) into the netmask entry also. Getting static addressing to work under NetworkManager has been nothing short of a hair-pulling experience. The folks working NetworkManager need to understand that not *ALL* linux boxes will travel...some are single-purpose boxes on networks that have a security policy that mandates static addressing. When one checks the static address button, NetworkManager must absolutely stop scribbling in places it shouldn't The responses I have seen to this problem in this list and the fedora-test list summarize as follows: 1) the *CURRENT* NM does not do a (non DHCP) static configuration very well or SNIP Thanks. I'll give this a try later today when I get back to the lab. The lab is small, and I'm not using kickstart. David, do you think you can modify your client so it A) does not use HTML (and no RTF as well), and B) if possible change you're client so it does not do the quoted-printable formatting... OR just trim off pretty much anything you are replying to because by the time your client gets done mangling it, the previous poster's information is pretty much unreadable. A) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#No_HTML_Mail.2C_Please Thanks. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
powering off USB port after eject. was Re: Ipod issues
Kevin Kofler wrote, On 01/08/2009 10:39 PM: Todd Zullinger wrote: The iPod should be sent an eject rather than just a umount. Well, really it's the iPod being weird. It doesn't make sense to eject a USB device. I'm pretty sure it's actually safe to disconnect the iPod once it is unmounted, even if the firmware doesn't understand this. Kevin Kofler On a somewhat related note... Am I just working with too old a fedora here (F8, and no wise crack about it being EOL) to see it, or has the Linux kernel still not started powering off USB devices when 'ejected'? when I 'safely remove' a USB stick from a windows 2K|XP machine it appears that the power is removed from the the stick, i.e., the LED goes out and stays out on the stick. when I issue `eject` on a Linux machine the file system gets unmounted but the device still appears powered. Or is there just some trick that MS is playing with the devices that tells the device 'shut off the LED'??? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ntpd sync fails on boot
Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote, On 01/09/2009 01:43 PM: On my FC7 system, on boot up: ntpd: Synchronizing with time server: always fails. However, after the boot, if I log on and restart ntpd, the sync always succeeds. I note that the time server it uses is right next door, on my LAN on the same hub. Thanks for your suggestions. (Yes I know FC7 is old; might that be the problem?) Mike. any ntpd messages in /var/log/messages during boot? If ntpd detects what the problem is, it often gives a clue there. do you see any messages on boot where network is being delayed? Is it only the ntpdate failing or is ntpd also not finding hosts on boot? if only ntpdate, then I would suspect the /etc/ntp/ntpservers or /etc/ntp/step-tickers to have a bad name. if it is both ntpdate and ntpd failing, then I would suspect some problem with DNS, but that usually leaves traces in /var/log/messages. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: df hangs -- nfs related problem
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote, On 01/07/2009 10:16 AM: That would depend on which is worse, potentially losing data or having a client machine hang because the server is (perhaps temporarily) unavailable. It depends totally on the specific application scenario. To quote nfs(5): quote A so-called soft timeout can cause silent data corruption in certain cases. As such, use the soft option only when client responsiveness is more important than data integrity. Using NFS over TCP or increasing the value of the retrans option may mitigate some of the risks of using the soft option. /quote IOW there is no right answer to this. poc I agree that there is no `right answer to this`, but from experience I have found that the best answer to using NFS without data loss and without _permanent_ application lockup is to use: hard,intr 'soft' on the other hand has lost me much data and caused many a bottle of administrator headache remedy to be used. Now a LART is called for anytime I find someone on my network using soft... even if they have not yet told me they are having problems with NFS data loss. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why Fedora 10 still uses openssl pkg from 2007, 4 releases old?
Frantisek Hanzlik wrote, On 01/08/2009 05:42 PM: After upgrading from F7 to F10 it's unable (for me, but on several sites) I wonder if I can be the first in this thread to ask you to read the following: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Starting_a_New_Subject BTW what bugzilla number? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fingerprint authentication when desktop locked
Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote, On 01/06/2009 11:05 AM: Hello, Last week I successfully configured PAM (in Fedora 10) to provide fingerprint authentication (http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Pam_fprint). Everything works great. Except when my desktop is locked, to unlock it I'm asked only for my password. Why it does not use the pam_fprint module for authentication ? Below is the listing of my system-auth $ cat /etc/pam.d/system-auth Pam is sufficiently confusing to me that I could be wrong here... but I think you also need to modify /etc/pam.d/xlock and|or /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver if those do not inherit from /etc/pam.d/system-auth. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network interfaces refusing to start on boot: F10
Craig White wrote, On 01/06/2009 02:46 PM: I agree that it's much easier to just disable it and then dismiss it as broken than it is to actually figure out what it's good for and how to live with it. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that everyone who dismisses NetworkManager out of hand also disables SELinux too. Craig You loose. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 7 date display in ls -al
Todd Zullinger wrote, On 12/19/2008 09:41 AM: denise.ago...@dana.com wrote: I have a Fedora 7 install in which the date displayed by default in an ls -al command as follows: -rw--- 1 root root 6582 2008-12-19 04:25 maillog On other Fedora and RedHat versions, the date is displayed by default as follows: -rw--- 1 root root1105372 Dec 19 08:38 maillog Can anyone please tell me if there is there a way to change the way the date in the ls -al command is displayed in Fedora 7 so that it is the written month and numeric day as is the usual display? You could use the --time-style option to specify any format you wanted or you could set LC_TIME=C, which will get you the POSIX locale format, which is like your latter example. or if you just want a fairly consistent full output of time on files use --full-time which is like -l --time-style=full-iso. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues
N. James Bridge wrote, On 12/17/2008 01:55 PM: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:40 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote: I get this error from Yum... ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.31) I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed: + kadu + gyachi and finally the only one left is: fuse-emulator for which I cannot remove. What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that I can later add back in the above removed packages? Thanks! Dan This was the subject of animated discussion recently: as I recall, an update to dbus broke the automatic updates. I know the bug has been fixed and I think that all that is necessary is to do yum update dbus. perhaps a bit more than that... like a reboot. please see Paul Frields email: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00012.html granted the `yum update dbus` might be needed in Dan's case if other packages than dbus are preventing the yum update from finishing. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution with mapi plugin?
Christopher A. Williams wrote, On 12/17/2008 06:15 AM: I guess you have the privilege of not having to deal with the great unwashed who routinely send and want to receive HTML e-mail. They also don't know that the business norm (imposed originally bu MS Outlook) of top-posting is also bad email etiquette. Hope you don't have to deal with them either, but most of the one I deal with have titles that start with the letter C or V - and they write very big checks. They are less inclined to write one with your name on it if you openly refuse to communicate in the language and style they are accustomed to... Except when the CIO of the community you are talking about has decided that from a security standpoint having an email client render RTF and HTML have become unsafe. Some businesses have now intentionally modified their email clients to NOT render RTF and HTML, and have made it such that to enable them is a firing violation of company policy. i.e. don't count on being able to say the blue text in bullet three is the important part anymore. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: adjusting window sizes in Gnome
fred smith wrote, On 12/15/2008 08:55 PM: Another question re F10 on my eeepc 901: I've got most stuff adjusted to my liking. But there are a few apps whose default window size is the 600 pixels of my screen. I know I can drag the entire window around with ALT-DRAG--that works fine. SNIP There must be a Gnome setting somewhere for this, but so far I haven't found it. This is irritating, the only way I can then resize a window to be taller than the screen is by dragging the BOTTOM off the screen and stretching from the top. Since I'm usually doing this because the row of buttons at or near the bottom has been obscured, that means I then have to drag the bottom off the screen, stretch the top, then drag the top off the screen so I can access the bottom, rather than just enlarging it from the bottom. Suggstions welcome. Thanks! you might see if some of the offending applications obey the X or Xt lib '-geometry' setting, i.e, on the command line try: bigprog -geometry 512x600 from the X man page -geometry WIDTHxHEIGHT Then modify the buttons (in menus) you click to pass the '-geometry' setting of your choice. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bastille on F10?
Kevin Fenzi wrote, On 12/13/2008 07:56 PM: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:06:54 -0500 david.c.mcguf...@saic.com (McGuffey, David C.) wrote: Anyone tested the Bastille hardening process on F10? In a few days I'll be building an F10 box and plan to lock it down. Would be nice to start with Bastille rather than having keep tweaking old scripts. I have never been too clear about the reason for the existance of Bastille. If there are improvements to be made in Fedora's security out of the box, perhaps we could just make them? In any case if you have selinux enabled, apply updates in a timely manner and use a firewall you should be in pretty good shape. Certain paranoid (they are out to get us :) organizations have rules that indicate that: if certain capabilities of a computer system are not needed to accomplish the job assigned for that computer, then remove|block|disable|destroy that capability. i.e., if the job does not need USB capability, remove USB capability from the OS or put hotglue in the ports. Bastille has been getting upgrades lately to check and set things in the Linux based OSs to the standards of some of those organizations, leaving the hardware available for use if the machine gets repurposed. Dave McGuffey Principal Information System Security Engineer // NSA-IEM, NSA-IAM SAIC, IISBU, Columbia, MD kevin -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Volgroup00 not found
Timothy Murphy wrote, On 12/13/2008 10:37 AM: Braden McDaniel wrote: I'm probably out of my depth, but what happens if you boot with Knoppix or some other Linux CD, and say sudo vgchange -a y ? I don't have a live CD handy; but doing that from rescue mode didn't seem to have any effect. Of course, by the time I'm in rescue mode, the filesystems have been located and mounted under /mnt/sysimage. If any of the logical volumes weren't marked as available, they wouldn't be locatable during rescue, would they? As I said, I'm not sure if I am talking sense, but my impression is that vchange -a y will tell you what LVM volumes can be found, and make available any that are not already available. I found during a long saga preupgrading from F-9 to F-10 on a SCSI machine that for some reason my LVM partitions were not found at one point, and vgchange brought them to light. Actually, I have had a few problems with LVM during system upgrades, and have reluctantly decided to withdraw from the LVM world. The advantages are greatly outweighed by the disadvantages, in my case. If vchange -a y does not do it, IIRC I had to a vgscan -v and then vchange -a y VOLNAME that vgscan showed. Unless a person is running a 1 PB monster drive or a system where they play about with VMs and new file systems, I have decided that the trouble in maintenance modes completely outweighs any benefit of LVM. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum repos
Girish Venkatasubramanian wrote, On 12/15/2008 08:53 AM: Hello, I have been using yum on FC5 (I know I should upgrade - but I don't have that option - due to the specifications at work) without any issues till about a couple of weeks ago. For the last couple of weeks, every time I try to install something via yum I end up getting the message Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core What are you installing on FC5 via yum anymore? I have tried the following suggestions that I found on different forums. 1) Ensure that my network is not acting up - I am able to ping google.com 2) Did yum clean all 3) Tried uncommenting the baseurl line in all my /etc/yum.repos.d/*repos files 4) Did (3) and commented ot the mirrorlist 5) Tried to browse to the baseurl as well as the mirrorlist sites - they were not up and running. My conf files look like - [core] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/ mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-core-$releasever enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY - (I don't have any other mirrors listed) 1) Are there any mirrors that are working for FC5? If so - how do I add them? Finding a working (and trust-able) FC5 repo at this point may be a trick, google has been my friend in the past when needing some really old FC stuff. If you find one, I suggest (if we can't convince you to upgrade to SOMETHING that is secure) don't add that to your yum.repos.d files, but mirror it (rsync|wget) to local media. 2) If there are no mirrors - can I host a mirror? How do I go about doing that? rsync|wget once you have it change the yum.repos.d files so that mirrorlist is commented and use baseurl=file:///path/to/my/mirror/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/[os|updates]/ 3) Short of upgrading to a newer version - is there any solution for this problem? change all the yum.repos.d files enabled=1 to enabled=0 [This is probably the best place to start for you anyway seeing as you will likely not need anything more from the base and updates repositories on those machines anyway.] start planning the upgrade ... and put those machines behind a firewall that does not allow them to see anything called the internet, i.e., air gap them with a real air gap. If you have to have something that is nearly that old in production, may we suggest looking at RHEL 5.2 or Centos? If you need something that will be supported for more than 13 months in the future, may we suggest looking at RHEL 5.2 or Centos? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No gdb?
Linuxguy123 wrote, On 12/12/2008 01:15 PM: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 18:03 +, dexter wrote: 2008/12/12 Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com: gdb without *debuginfo* is also useless to a bug report and they get big pretty quick so I say no gdb for normal folk. How big is big ? Hard drives are cheap these days, right ? true, but bandwith media sizes are also a factor. Yes and no... Bandwidth: most of us with broadband connections will pay the same gdb or no. For Fedora, I understand that server bandwidth might be an issue, but I think most of Fedora is served via mirrors. Media sizes: DVDs don't cost a lot more than CDs. I am VERY excited about installing on USB sticks. 4GB sticks are pretty affordable. I think you missed the point about the *debuginfo* kernel-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i586.rpm 08-Dec-2008 14:0719M kernel-debuginfo-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i586.rpm 08-Dec-2008 14:19 249M kdebase-4.1.3-2.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:53 5.6M kdebase-runtime-4.1.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:53 5.7M kdebase-debuginfo-4.1.3-2.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:5327M kdebase-runtime-debuginfo-4.1.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:5414M Now how many packages did you install? how many are giving you trouble that you need to debug them? I understand the convince thing of having gdb+debuginfo already installed, but for folks who are: a) happy running a system that never gives them a problem b) just into running their system and will not be bothered to put in a BZ or c) are rarely running into problems that would kick an error where gdb+debuginfo is useful having *_ALL_* of the debuginfo's installed is a waste of their machine's hard drive and sometimes memory, update bandwidth, and always their time away from wesnoth waiting for the download. What would probably be useful is: a) have the KDE applet which spit out Anne's it couldn't create a bug report, as gdb is not installed., get some _more_ intelligence added such that it might suggest (on a fedora system) 'please execute as root `yum install gdb kdeThingThatBroke-debuginfo`, so that next time this happens we can provide a full bug report.' [Note, I believe Anne already knew about that, but other folks could benefit.] -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: infrastructure modest proposal
Jeff Spaleta wrote, On 12/12/2008 05:21 PM: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: How often has this happened? In the real scheme of things, what percentage of packages have caused problems like this? I'm not denying the problems that some people have had, but is there, perhaps, some over-reaction? How often has what happened? An accidental push to stable meant for testing? I don't think we could get an accurate count on that. SNIP Also keep in mind that every legitimate security update which does not go to updates-testing presents a similar breakage risk because it short-circuiting a QA process for the sake of rushing the security fix to users. -jef While looking at LWN's coverage of the current issues[1] I noticed among the comments a link to an update policy development page for fedora[2], which then points to a Package Maintainer Responsibility Policy[3] as the current policy. Perhaps folks should look at these before making some of their comments. [Not aimed at JS, this just happened to be last message in the thread when I began the reply.] [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/311146/ [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UpdatesPolicy [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/MaintainerResponsibility -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT: mice size Re: asus w5f Intel sound on Fedora 10
Tim wrote, On 12/10/2008 09:13 PM: On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 19:16 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: The dog's not too good on the keyboard. Paws too big for picking out individual keys. You could always teach it to use the mouse... ;-) But a rat might be more practical. Yes, there is such a thing as a computer rat - it's a larger computer mouse. You would not happen to have the maker and some model names handy would you? I have not found a 'mouse' that fit my paw very well since they stopped making the Logitech MouseMan, and even it *seems* a bit small. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ypbind error
Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve wrote, On 12/09/2008 02:38 PM: Hi Dave, I think you are correct, the invalid source port is indeed unrelated. You're not very specific. I am guessing that NIS is not working? Can you nudge it into making more error messages, maybe execute 'ypcat passwd'? Result of '/etc/init.d/ypbind status'? # /etc/init.d/ypbind start SIOCADDRT: File exists Starting NIS service: [ OK ] Binding NIS service: ... [ OK ] # ypcat passwd No such map passwd.byname. Reason: Can't bind to server which serves this domain Q1: network up before starting NIS? (watch out for NetworkMangler^H^H^H^Hager starting only after someone logs in.) Q2: can you ping the NIS server or its backups? Q3: portmapper running? chkconfig --list portmap http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg75448.html another command to add to your yp test suite: ypwhich Please keep us posted... some of us still have to deal with that system a bit longer. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need Miredo for F10
Robert Moskowitz wrote, On 12/10/2008 08:08 AM: Todd Denniston wrote: A further option considering Miredo is an open-source Teredo IPv6 tunneling software for...[1], would be to snag a copy of the source to Miredo[2] and build it on F10... of course that assumes that the software has something sort of nice like a configure script to let the OP know that they need more 'devel' packages and that the OP understands what the configure script is asking for. And there is the crux of the problem. If it is not a plug-n-pay build, it will take me a day to pull off, and I have other fish to fry on this project right now. I will try and reach the builder and get them to look into this. As I don't have need for Miredo nor do I have an F10 install setting around yet, there is no point in me pulling Miredo sources and trying... BUT Often if you pull the source of a project, untar it, and type ./configure; it will either fully configure and be ready for a `make;make install` or spew out a 'could not find package BLAA' [which means you need to do `yum install BLAA-devel`] and have it figured out in less than an hour. If Miredo uses pretty much standard libraries, it is unlikely that you will even need to install any extra devel packages. i.e., give it a go ... I think you could be lucky :) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miredo [2] http://www.remlab.net/files/miredo/?C=N;O=D -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ypbind error
Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve wrote, On 12/10/2008 10:58 AM: Q1: network up before starting NIS? (watch out for NetworkMangler^H^H^H^Hager starting only after someone logs in.) Yes. -- I had another machine in the past where this was a problem. NIS didn't work after boot, but when I manually restarted ypbind it started working. No such luck this time. Q2: can you ping the NIS server or its backups? Yes. Q3: portmapper running? chkconfig --list portmap No, but it looks like portmap was superseded by rpcbind, which is running: # /etc/init.d/rpcbind status rpcbind (pid 2828) is running... Also, rpcinfo reports several portmapper services. another command to add to your yp test suite: ypwhich # /etc/init.d/ypbind status SIOCADDRT: File exists ypbind (pid 22270) is running... # ypwhich ypwhich: Can't communicate with ypbind This doesn't change if I stop both iptables and ip6tables (and then restart ypbind). Another thing I tried: /etc/init.d/portreserve stop and chkconfig portreserve off but that didn't make a difference either. I also ran yum install ypserv, without actually turning it on. No luck still. Ralf top of a google[ ypwhich: Can't communicate with ypbind ] http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/802-3884/6i7ogkaot?a=view I think you are at the NIS Service Is Unavailable stage of the document... try the following, even if `/etc/init.d/ypbind status` returns a pid: ps aux | grep ypbind `/etc/init.d/ypbind status` may be reading a file from /var instead of checking for a physically running program. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need Miredo for F10
Kevin J. Cummings wrote, On 12/09/2008 05:55 PM: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=miredosubmit=Search+...system=arch= only finds it for F9. So I download that anyway and try to do a yum localinstall and it needs: libcap.so.1 And libcap.so.2 is installed, what to do? Well, one of number of things things: 1) If the API for libcap.so.2 is backward compatible enough for what you need it for, just put a in symlink linking libcap.so.1 - libcap.so.2. 2) If the API for libcap.so.2 is incompatible with what your application needs, then you will need to find a .src.rpm for building libpcap.so.1, build it yourself, and install it locally. 3) Find an old RPM and install it and hope that it works. Sometimes there are compatibility versions of libraries available in one or more of the repos, but a yum search libcap.so.1 for me doesn't find anything. A further option considering Miredo is an open-source Teredo IPv6 tunneling software for...[1], would be to snag a copy of the source to Miredo[2] and build it on F10... of course that assumes that the software has something sort of nice like a configure script to let the OP know that they need more 'devel' packages and that the OP understands what the configure script is asking for. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miredo [2] http://www.remlab.net/files/miredo/?C=N;O=D -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
Jeff Maxwell wrote, On 11/26/2008 04:14 PM: Ok. I can understand the reasoning for that. But, why would I only have access to the printer/scanner when signed on as root and not as a local user? This is the problem that I am running into. Every time I wish to use the scanner, I need to switch users to root. Jeff, try Tim Waugh's suggestion (I think he is taking you through the gnome menue to the troubleshooter): System-Administration-Printing, then Help-Troubleshoot. It automates log capture and can even diagnose some simple problems. If it fails to identify the problem, you can see the diagnostic output including the relevant portions of the log files. If the diagnostic output is too cryptic to understand but you think there is a bug in the software, file a bug report about your problem and attach the troubleshoot.txt file. If the menus don't get you the application, I think you could run system-config-printer in a terminal, and then select Help-Troubleshoot to get where Tim was pointing. However I am expecting you to need to look at /var/log/cups/ files access_log error_log to figure this out, ... because it WORKS as ROOT but not as NONROOT users. But do try the Troubleshoot first, as it might just cover this case, and if it does not then file the bug Tim mentioned and file another one against the system-config-printer Help-Troubleshoot to cover your case (so future folks might figure it out easier. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 100% CPU usage...
Tom Horsley wrote, On 11/22/2008 03:13 PM: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:20:21 +0300 Waleed Harbi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you checked top command results? (top) Try look at TOP results which process utilize the CPU to 100% `top -b -n1 |grep -A2 -e Cpu -e %CPU` might have been useful to figure out what was going on. I'm pretty sure I remember the pcscd that shipped with F8 having a bug that pegged it at 100% all the time. It was not a bug in pcscd, but a strange interaction with ifd-cyberjack.bundle and the ccid bundle. If someone is having problems with pcscd pulling 100% and they need pcscd, then I would suggest making sure that: if they don't have a device served by ifd-cyberjack, then they issue: `rpm -e ifd-cyberjack` and `service pcscd restart` else if they do have an ifd-cyberjack then track down the other ifd's and the ccid package and remove them. chkconfig --level 2345 pcscd off put a stop to that (which isn't a problem unless you actually use a smart card reader for authentication). If it is not needed, then that would be reasonable. BAH, I need to stop writing logic programs. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Scanners that work with F9
Bill Davidsen wrote, On 11/15/2008 09:35 PM: Dave Feustel wrote: I'm looking for a document scanner that works well with F9. Any suggestion? Thanks. Epson CX7400 printer and scanner work with FC6, using the driver from the vendor. As of FC8 or early FC9 the driver wasn't updated. Since I can keep FC6 running safely behind a firewall, as a device controller, I can live with that, although I would like to upgrade o/s at some point. http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_CX7400 http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epsonmodel=cx7400bus=anyv=p= looks like you need: gutenprint 5.something sane epkowa 2.12.0 not sure which versions are in F10 but it looks like at least the printing functions may be supported in F9, and I have never investigated how hard it is to use an updated sane back-end with fedora. BTW there are nice databases that have been put together for devices that work with Unix: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with F9
Richard Hughes wrote, On 11/14/2008 08:52 AM: On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 13:41 +, Croombe F. Pensom wrote: I wonder if anyone else has had similar troubles. My main objection is that, to use Add/Remove Software F9 always goes onto the web for a mirror and this chews up connect time (for which I am charged through the nose after a certain limit has been passed). Right. It wants to show you the latest versions of everything. Fedora is a fast moving distro. Does anyone know if it is possible to get ALL Fedora applications etc. (i.e. a complete repository) on DVD thus obviating the need to consume connect time? You'll be downloading about 80Gb of data, that almost instantly will become stale. That is a little inflated, if what Croombe actually means is he wants everything for only his arch. The following numbers are a bit small, because I do not mirror the debug packages: 13G releases/9/Everything/i386/ 3.3Mupdates/9/i386 7.6Gupdates/9/i386.newkey 21G total however ~3.2GB of the Everything can be gotten from the install ISO. What Croombe is looking for is a local mirror of the repositories, having the Everything would solve most of the issues, and you could rely on the net for updates versions, or you could mirror both with the understanding that you will be pulling updates for many things that you might never install. http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/ there are 5 sites in CA, when I looked. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_make_a_private_mirror.3F They only talk about using rsync (which works well), but some folks have to work inside networks where the policies do not allow rsync, so I use wget to do my pulls. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: advice for data recovery
Dave Stevens wrote, On 11/10/2008 04:56 PM: Hello All, I am trying to recover .jpgs that were on a SATA drive that was formatted by mistake. No backup of course. Foremost has done a wonderful job of recovering several tens of thousands of files. Unfortunately many of them are either irrelevant (cached web fragments, etc.) or damaged. The most common type of damage is shown when trying to view them in Nautilus, when I get a message saying, unsupported marker type. It seems about 30% - 40% of the files recovered are damaged in this way. Assuming that all the data is really there but you have extra on the end, then you might be able to use convert to read the input and only output picture data. identify might be able to help you sort images from not images, and corruption. They aren't my images and I am not able to gauge what is worthwhile or not but I would like to do some triage by only considering those of a certain minimum size (easy to do) and not damaged (no idea.) So does anyone know of a program I can use to only copy files that are not damaged? I can sort out the teenies, but don't see how to proceed after that. man ImageMagick man identify man convert -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
Jeff Maxwell wrote, On 11/07/2008 10:51 AM: This is great information. I do not know if my question fits this thread or not, but, It would probably be best to start another thread, with a fully new (not reply to this one) message. I have an issue where I have been able to install and access an HP parallel OfficeJet printer via the root sign on but I am not able to access the printer via a local user sign on. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. take a look in /var/log/cups/ at page_log, error_log and access_log and see if there is something that make sense there, before starting your new thread. If there is no info there, then you may have to (backup first and) edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to set LogLevel to debug instead of info, then `service restart cups`. (hopefully a restorecon /etc/cups/cupsd.conf will not be needed) try a few prints and check the logs again. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Scanners that work with F9
Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/05/2008 06:35 PM: I, personally, use the Cannon MF-4270. I had to hack some bugs out of sane's pixma driver, but once I did that, it worked fine. The fixes went upstream, they should be in the next version of sane, so until then you'll have to pull them out of CVS and temporarily build your own driver. The MF-4270 is really a multifunction scanner/copier/printer/fax machine. AFAIK, there is no support for the printer part of it, in CUPS, but I don't need the printer+fax functionality. It works fine for me as a scanner+copier. Supports both the flatbed and the document feeder, for scanning. The actual printer _device_ driver for CUPS is often gutenprint[1]. I have seen a far amount of traffic on the gutenprint list[2] where some folks are trying to support some of the cannon equipment. And as you don't seem to be adverse to working out of a dev repository, perhaps you might want to take a look and see if your multifunction device is already supported or if you could give them the few needed pointers to get it supported. [1] http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ [2] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Scanners that work with F9
Dave Feustel wrote, On 11/06/2008 11:50 AM: I am the OP for this thread. I am looking for a high resolution document scanner only, (no printer, no copier (I have a laser printer already) functions) with a usb or scsi interface. Years ago I had an HP C2 scanner which worked very well but it was big and slow. Plus I only had windows drivers for it. Sorry for kind of hijacking your thread. To kind of get back on subject, I think for most of us you would need to define what you mean by: high resolution document scanner. The reason you need to define it is that for me, scanning text (~8-12 point Helvetica|Arial|TimesNewRoman|Palatino) anything at or over 150DPI is going to be considered high resolution, which almost every scanner today can do. If on the other hand you were scanning the dead sea scrolls (granted scanning with the light sources that scanners today use would probably destroy them), no one would be happy if you did not scan at 3600DPI. What kind of resolution did the C2 have? The best luck I have had with picking out scanners is, go to http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl pick a bus you like http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=model=bus=usbv=p= and look at the Status column and find manufacturers that seem to have a large percentage of their products that are listed as complete and good. These manufactures have been either feeding the developers data on how to talk to their devices, or have been keeping a reasonably stable interface to the device, so even if none of the listed devices are currently available for new purchase they have a reasonable _likelihood_ of working especially if the new device is in the same family. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/06/2008 06:29 PM: Todd Denniston writes: SNIP The actual printer _device_ driver for CUPS is often gutenprint[1]. I already have gutenprint installed. I'm not sure how gutenprint is supposed to interface with CUPS, but when I try to select the printer, this Canon model is not listed. Often times the driver is supported by a similar models driver so you could either pick one that seems similar and try it, or you could ask on the list https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel SNIP Well, I still don't see this Canon model listed as supported in the documentation in the latest, a fairly recent, release. Although you are correct in that gutenprint does not seem to support the device... go rummaging for Linux printer information ... http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting indicates: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-MF4270 there is a binary driver for it on one of canon's websites Sorry to confuse you, by trying to lead you towards getting an Open Source driver going. The only reason I could hack sane is because its supported for the scanner was already there, it just had some bugs. A complete absence of support for the entire printer is quite a different beast. again, printer families often use the same or similar control protocol, and a similar driver might at least 'work' but not give nice results, and knowing that would help the devs know what they would need to change. however for this device there is a working (closed source) solution from the manufacturer, at least until Fedora upgrades to a point where it can't find a old library. It is too bad so few folks know about the nice databases that have been put together for devices that work with Unix: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Off-topic]cvs hangs due a dangling nfs.
Rick Stevens wrote, On 10/30/2008 07:04 PM: Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: Hi I use automount to share a partition via NFS so every machine can mount this share. For example, the machine abc has a partitio /abc and other machines mounts /users/abc. One the machines was removed (retired), but now a few clients can't use the CVS server. After the command cvs history..., it simply sits and wait. Please tell us that your $CVSROOT contains :pserver:|:ext:|:extssh: and not a :fork:|:local:|direct pointer to the file system... because using CVS across a Network File System (including smb|cif) has been the recipe for corrupted repository data for a very long time. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=corrupt+nfssubmit=Search%21idxname=info-cvsmax=20result=normalsort=score http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=corrupt+network+submit=Search%21idxname=info-cvsmax=10result=normalsort=score http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%7Bnetwork+file+system%7Dsubmit=Search%21idxname=info-cvsmax=20result=normalsort=score If you do use cvs across nfs, may I suggest you investigate the use of verify_repo running on what ever machine now physically hosts the repository. verify_repo A perl script to check an entire repository for corruption. Contributed by Donald Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]. http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/ccvs/contrib/validate_repo.pl?revision=1.4root=cvsview=markup I know that the problem is in accessing the retired machine because of the command strace cvs history. Is there a way to find where is this reference to the old machine? Something like /etc/mtab? Part II (Really Off-topic) Is there a way to find which machines are client of a NFS share? So that before the shutdown I could umount in the clients? showmount -d or showmount -a on the NFS server should give you a list of the clients that have made a mount request. There's no guarantee that they STILL have a valid mount...if a client doesn't issue an umount command (e.g. simply goes tits up), the server will still think there's a valid mount. See man showmount for details. You should make sure the clients mount soft. That way if the server goes away, any request made by the client should eventually time out. If they do a hard mount, the request will hang until the server comes back. I would like to respectfully disagree with the suggestion to use the soft mount option, or at least suggest only using it if you understand and can live with the implications. *soft If an NFS file operation has a major timeout then report an I/O error to the calling program. and some programs don't deal with the error well, by that I mean I have seen**: cp and tar when writing large (1MB) files across the net introduce multiple faults in the file being copied (i.e. the md5|sha1 sums do NOT match afterwards) with out issuing a fault message at all. gnome Firefox (on account initialization), create a sort-of filedirectorylink combination (it was supposed to be a directory to hold files, but it turned into a monster NODE that was interesting to remove from the server even AS root). These kinds of errors stopped immediately after changing clients to hard,intr, and would return if we changed back to soft. The better option most times is hard,intr which will continue retrying indefinitely but then allow signals to interupt the file operation and cause it to return EINTR to the calling program. *see man nfs for quoted material. :) **on a network with over 30 folks using nfs for home, project work, and included other network traffic at moderate to high volume (10 to 75% of 100Mb links). -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ktorrent screen size?
Gene Heskett wrote, On 10/30/2008 09:38 AM: Greetings; SNIP question I don't have an answer for Is this a known bug? Their bugzilla needs an account and password, which makes reporting a bug difficult if not impossible since I didn't paint it on the wall 5 years ago. I am also subscribed to their kde mailing list and get several msgs a day, but my posts just bounce cuz I'm not subscribed. Hints please. Thanks. Gene, Have you checked the kde bugzilla and mailing list sites for their get a password reminder options? for example if you go to https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list scroll to the bottom and put your (subscription) email address in the box next to the Unsubscribe or edit options and press that button, you will be taken to a page that has a Remind button on it which will cause a password reminder to be sent to your subscription address. Used it just yesterday don't you know. :) Hope this helps. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Remote Rescue - PXE, SSH, and a remote console?
Ryan Wilson wrote, On 10/30/2008 04:16 PM: Hi, I've got a Linux server at my parent's house. It had some hardware troubles and I shipped them a new computer and asked them to move the hard drive over. That worked out great, except now Fedora 8 won't boot. I think I know why (I think I need to rebuild my initrd), but how can I do that from remote? SNIP Is there a way to have the kernel reboot the system automatically if it can't mount the root filesystem? I'm not 100% sure where the system is hanging, but I think nash gives up when it can't find the filesystem and just hangs. Can I specify that the kernel reboot on panic on the command line? My setting in /etc/sysctl.conf doesn't get run because the root filesystem isn't mounted yet! http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=kernel+reboot+on+panicbtnG=Google+Searchaq=foq= http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/reboot-linux-box-after-a-kernel-panic.html says you can add panic=10 to the kernel command line, it will have exactly the same effect. as setting kernel.panic = 10 in /etc/sysctl.conf Is there something I can use to trigger remote reboots? Like a wake-on-lan packet that reboots the system when hung? Is there a linux distro (preferably Fedora or one of its variants) that I can boot a rescue session from using PXE? I'd like to build a setup with grub, pxelinux, etc... (if possible) where it boots into the main OS and on reboot, it will switch back-and-forth to a rescue distro. SNIP https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00353.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=159287 suggests that a rescue mode image (initrd) might be setup as a grub target. Perhaps you should add to that bug, with some ideas from your experience. And if you are adventuresome you might try this idea from the same thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00380.html Still seems a bit scary having a machine up on the net with the non protected rescue environment. I hope you get it fixed quickly. Of course with your situation, it MIGHT be easier to have them express the hard drive to you and work on it locally. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: find command permissions: how to exclude dir?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote, On 10/29/2008 07:04 PM: (Does anyone else think .gvfs is a PITA?) +1 And wondering how much grief it is going to cause me while administrating an NFS|AFS|SMB server for home directories that I need to back up. I suppose I have a little while before RHEL gets infected with this. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: flash and firefox again
Ed Greshko wrote, On 10/23/2008 08:15 PM: Todd Denniston wrote: Frank Cox wrote, On 10/20/2008 10:50 PM: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:10:57 -0500 Richard Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't find anything helpful with a quick Google search for flash 10 multitheaded but maybe it is an issue with multi-core machines? That's a thought. I have never been able to watch CNN videos on this dual-core machine, even with Flash 10, but they work on the single-core machine that's sitting beside it. Both running F8. have you considered/ever tried forcing flash | the browser | X processes to operate only on one processor (core) with taskset, just to see if it may be a context switching/processor cache bashing problem? I have noticed on the dual Xeon 1.50GHz W/512MB I use, that if I lock X to the second processor, when visiting animated sites like http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true The whole system is smother and the animation is less glitchy. [with out locking X pulls ~85%cpu (of combined cpus), with locking X pulls ~10-50%cpu (of combined cpus), on that page after it self reloads.] Other than in the Advertisement area I don't see any other flash on http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true . When you were talking about less glitchy were you talking about the radar animation or some other aspect of that page? The radar animation is part of javascript. Sorry. You are correct that I was less than clear... I don't have flash on my systems, as it has to be upgraded too often for security holes. I meant that the animations were less glitchy, and that the whole X session was less glitchy. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help with old BSD mail commands
Dave Encisco wrote, On 10/20/2008 05:42 PM: Hi, I just migrated an old Solaris server to a new machine running Fedora. Unfortunately one of my users is blind and dependent on using the BSD mail command. Fortunately that still works for him, but he also was used to using the BSD from command that lists newly arrived mail and/or the nfrm command that was part of elm. Can someone point me to the equivalent for Linux. My user is dependent on line-command and Mutt and Pine do not work for him. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...and save me a lot of time. Sincerely, Dave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_email_client has a link at the bottom to a copy of the source. and/or you could grab an src.rpm from http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=elm and then build that on fedora. Elm Millennium Edition might be interesting for you http://freshmeat.net/projects/elmme/ and they include a src.rpm http://freshmeat.net/redir/elmme/28280/url_rpm/elm-2.4ME+124-1.mdk7.2.src.rpm I don't and have not used elm, but apparently resources are still out there if you know where to look. If you want the 'BSD from command' you would have to have more information on it to do a search that finds anything. (your email is the first thing that that comes up in a http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=from.command+nfrm+bsd+mail+btnG=Search search.) Please note: Emails authored under this address do not reflect the opinions of my employer unless otherwise stated. Come now, do they even then? :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter Even when this disclaimer is not here, the opinions expressed by me are not necessarily sanctioned by and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. Also even when this disclaimer is not here, I DO NOT have authority to direct you in any way to alter your contractual obligation and my email can NOT be used as direction to modify a contract. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: hwclock can cause system lockup
Chris wrote, On 10/17/2008 06:46 AM: First of all, thanks for all the replies. Some useful suggestions in there which I'll be trying this morning. 2008/10/17 Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] runs /sbin/hwclock --utc --hctosys to sync the hardware clock to the system clock. But this is syncing the system clock to the hardware clock, not the hardware clock to the system clock. This has me confused as to what Sorry, my mistake. I meant to say to sync the system clock to the hardware clock. As Todd Denniston pointed out, the hardware clock can be significantly more accurate than the system clock. Our application requires accurate time but some users are not net-connected so can't use NTP. If NTP is in use we sync the hardware clock to the system clock once per hour. If NTP is NOT in use, we sync the system clock to the hardware clock once per hour. 1) you don't need to call hwclock while NTP is running to keep the hardware clock synced to system time, the kernel hackers helpfully put a sneak circuit in the ntp implementation in the _kernel_ such that if NTP declares a good sync with the external source, then the kernel will every 11 minutes write the system time to the hardware clock. 2) (1) messes up /etc/adjtime in two ways a) the bios time has been set independent of the hwclock use of /etc/adjtime, so the time since last set is wrong. b) because of (a) the amount the clock needs adjusted for drift each time hwclock --adjust is called is now wrong. You can kind of work around the problem by having your script that calls hwclock -systohc monitor either the adjtime drift or ntp's connectedness to a real server and keep the drift the same while ntp has sync, i.e, have the script keep the original adjtime drift if either the call is being made when ntp is known to be synced or the drift changes too much towards 0. I have toyed with the idea of trimming that out* of my kernels, but it would mean a recompile every time a kernel update happened. *or at least making it some kind of boot configurable item, and try to get that patch in the kernel tree. The reason to sync the hardware clock to the system clock when using NTP is to ensure that the difference never gets too great, so if there is a power outage or unclean shutdown, the hardware clock is reasonably accurate when it comes back up. it is not needed for syncing time to the hwclock (see above), but some tricks are needed so that when the box comes back up the hwclock --adjust call does not wack the good time. Chris wrote, On 10/17/2008 08:54 AM: 2008/10/17 Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not if you are sane enough to disable that in the halt script. (search this or the fedora-test list for ntp and me to see why I say this)I would suggest two things: Strangely I can't find anything, I googled ntp denniston site: www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ and the same for fedora-test-list but no results were found. bizarre. slightly different search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=ntp+denniston+site:www.redhat.comstart=10sa=N And the following is the message I was referring to: http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-list/2008-August/msg00101.html and of course it was sent to the fedora-list... apparently google can't/doesn't archive https or there is a robots.txt that is being obeyed. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: hwclock can cause system lockup
Ian Burrell wrote, On 10/17/2008 02:40 PM: Todd Denniston Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil writes: 1) you don't need to call hwclock while NTP is running to keep the hardware clock synced to system time, the kernel hackers helpfully put a sneak circuit in the ntp implementation in the _kernel_ such that if NTP declares a good sync with the external source, then the kernel will every 11 minutes write the system time to the hardware clock. 2) (1) messes up /etc/adjtime in two ways a) the bios time has been set independent of the hwclock use of /etc/adjtime, so the time since last set is wrong. b) because of (a) the amount the clock needs adjusted for drift each time hwclock --adjust is called is now wrong. You can kind of work around the problem by having your script that calls hwclock -systohc monitor either the adjtime drift or ntp's connectedness to a real server and keep the drift the same while ntp has sync, i.e, have the script keep the original adjtime drift if either the call is being made when ntp is known to be synced or the drift changes too much towards 0. I have toyed with the idea of trimming that out* of my kernels, but it would mean a recompile every time a kernel update happened. *or at least making it some kind of boot configurable item, and try to get that patch in the kernel tree. Why don't you just use the ntpd local clock driver? The Fedora /etc/ntp.conf has the following lines commented out: #server 127.127.1.0 # local clock #fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10 Uncommenting those causes ntpd to use the local hardware clock as a backup time source. ntpd will keep track of the drift and record it in the drift file to use when starting. It should keep fairly accurate time as long as it occasionally is connected to the network. - Ian 1) because in Chris's case you are not using ntp on the machine in question to get time from elsewhere, there is no elsewhere, i.e., no network. This is not a `fall back while still disciplined to the local clock`, this is a `we will never see a _true_ stratum (ntp referenced from a reference clock) anything at this physical location`. 2) Because the BIOS clock can be looked at under certain circumstances (such as a box running 24X7X365) as slightly ovenized* and independent of processor and IO load. ntpd local clock is subjected to changes due to system processor load and IO load, i.e., missed interrupts. *in an air conditioned office space, an on-all-the-time machine should have temp fluctuations of less than 10F day to day. each day you might see a swing that is 30F in that day, but when each day is compared the temps at the same time of the day is much closer, and hwclock does not calculate new drifts in time spans of less than 1 day. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: DISCOVERY Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
Beartooth wrote, On 10/08/2008 12:49 PM: On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:03:44 +, I Beartooth wrote: I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the differences differ, too. The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too fast even to identify. [...] SNIP There are two things I've long made a practice of moving from machine to machine, either with scp or by sneakermail, whichever seemed easier at the time : FEBE, and my collection of desktop background pictures (aka wallpaper, I believe). I had noticed a new problem with the pix, but hadn't thought to check for it with FEBE : a lot of files a/o folders would show up in nautilus with a padlock emblem. Lo and behold, the extension folders, and some others, were littered all over with those blasted padlocks. do the 'padlocks' indicate read only? [I never use those GUI file manglers on anything but MS.] I had also discovered that I could clear away the padlocks by right-clicking a parent folder, choosing Properties, going to the Permissions tab, and making changes. (Why should there *be* permissions trouble with a file or folder, belonging to user btth on one machine, burned to CD by that user, Assumption, you burned the file to the CD with out putting it into an archive file, i.e., you did not use tar or zip. When you copied the files you (or the GUI file mangler) told it to keep the permissions it had on the source media, and a CD is _ALWAYS_ read only if you are not using UDF(??), so the files at the destination are read only. use tar or zip to create an archive of multiple files which then goes on the CD|DVD|USBdrive which you move around, it will give you less surprises. or learn to use `chmod u+w -R my_moved_dir` inserted into another machine, then dragged and dropped by the same user into some folder belonging to that user?? Is this yet another betise of SELinux?? It didn't use to happen.) Anyway, I applied the same method to the padlock-littered firefox folders in my user's .mozilla -- several times, from the firefox folder itself on down -- and the various installs of firefox on F8 and F9 did at least start launching better than before. SNIP -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: automatic ssh agent
Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote, On 10/08/2008 11:57 AM: Could you please remind me of the name of the file that creates an ssh agent on start? Thanks, Mike. used to be /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc-common around line 62. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SSH Access Issues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, On 10/08/2008 12:57 PM: In the properties for the user, what shell do they have? (cat /etc/passwd) If it's /sbin/nologin, then that is part of the problem. or if /etc/nologin exists, only root can login, but that would affect normal logins too. HTH -Greg Hi List, I have several F8 and F9 boxes in an internal network. I can ssh between them all happily as root, but not as individual other users. After prompting me for a password, it says: Permission denied. In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have the lines: PasswordAuthentication yes ChallengeResponseAuthentication no UsePAM yes X11Forwarding yes but I can't seem to move forward. Any ideas? Jonathan -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds
Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote, On 10/07/2008 11:00 AM:
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 09:48 -0500 schrieb Arthur Pemberton:
When was the last time you dismantled and cleaned the machine?
Arthur:
Three monts ago? Seems clean, though.
- I changed the memory DIMMs.
Before or after the rebooting started?
- Disconnected the machine electrig plug.
- Pushed RESET button for about a minute.
I repeat: since the power outage, it reboots every 1.00.19, approx.
tried coming up in single user mode and running something like:
e2fsck -y -c -k -v -C 0 /dev/rootdevice
yes, normally ext3 does not have problems with power drops and such, but it
can over time build up some things that need cleaned up, and at a minimum a
read-only media check can be a good thing {read-write is better, but takes a
long time}.
Tim:
could not be a cron issue, that would lead to exactly 1 hour rebooting.
Every 3 reboots means 3 hours and a minute (look my previous logs).
How long does it to reboot? ~19 seconds?
How long does it take for the program that is getting started at 1 hour after
the machine comes up, to use enough power|memory to cause a fault? ~19 seconds?
BTW been here and bought the tee shirt... My machine had a problem of using a
little more current than the wires supplying it could carry, while trying to
get cron.daily done and doing it's other work.
suggestion: bring the box up in runlevel 3 and come back to it about 58
minutes after you boot it, you might actually see the kernel give an OOPS or
panic. [If you don't have the patience to do that, there is the option of
setting up a serial console to another machine and logging the console there.]
reason for runlevel 3: so you see console messages instead of GDM.
# ls -l /etc/cron.hourly/
total 0
Means little, as if the machine has not been able to complete .daily or
.weekly or .monthly in that time period, then it will start running those at
~1 hour after boot.
try:
ls -ltr /var/spool/anacron/
# at -l
# uname -r
2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686
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Re: id_rsa.pub
David Hláèik wrote, On 09/25/2008 07:35 AM: Hi guys, i have reinstalled my laptop with Fedora 9. I have my RSA private key in .ssh/id_rsa . How to generate public key which i can use from private RSA key? (to have .ssh/id_rsa.pub). Thanks! ssh-keygen -t rsa -b512 -C 'a test key' -N 'junkme' mv id_rsa.pub id_rsa.pub.orig ssh-keygen -f id_rsa -e SECSHpkff ssh-keygen -i -f SECSHpkff SECSHpkff.ossh cat id_rsa.pub.orig ;echo ;cat SECSHpkff.ossh ssh-rsa B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAEEA2B/62aUjcZW4kZJRnL/mS0pNIuIt6BCVc6y2V24trV6H90qqud1Jy3mOT4ZuRru53LYtURENZPVXBPqzqYJ7QQ== a test key ssh-rsa B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAEEA2B/62aUjcZW4kZJRnL/mS0pNIuIt6BCVc6y2V24trV6H90qqud1Jy3mOT4ZuRru53LYtURENZPVXBPqzqYJ7QQ== Visual diff indicates a delta in the comment portion, but otherwise the same. ... So ssh-keygen -f id_rsa -e SECSHpkff ssh-keygen -i -f SECSHpkff id_rsa.pub should get your public side back. There is probably an easier way, but this worked. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Important Check this out
Alan Evans wrote, On 09/24/2008 12:31 PM: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Kam Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate playing Fllow this URL. Get to the point and provide a synopsis. If this has to do with a kernel update breaking Intel chipset internet interfaces then say so. I skimmed it for you. The e1000e module in kernel 2.6.27 contains a bad bug that can corrupt EEPROM. I think the latest F9 updates are kernel 2.6.26, so it's not a Fedora issue at present. Move along. However, if you are on F10, or rolling your own kernel... it might make for a good read. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459202 http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11382 http://lwn.net/Articles/299787/ pay special attention to this comment: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459202#c5 -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Software: Barcode printing
Renich Bon Ciric wrote, On 09/24/2008 12:41 PM: Anybody knows any barcode label printing program available in fedora? TeX using: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-barcode/ Probably not exceptionally user friendly, but it exists. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
Andrea Mastellone wrote, On 09/24/2008 11:12 AM: Hi, I have a broken solid state disk, in facts badblocks has found about a hundred of damaged blocks. The most shortcoming is that I have lost the partition table too, and I suspect that some bad blocks are in relation with the partition table data since testdisk can not write the recovered partition table to the disk. Now, I need to rescue a 10 GB ext3 partition (that is the last one on device). So, I would like to use dd (or dd_rescue) to physically transfer the partition in a file on an ext3 USB disk, and then mount the file as an ext3 partition (like an iso file by means of loopback device, is it possible ? how ?). Since I am poor experienced with the CHS and LBA notations, someone can me confirm this: testdisk signals that the partition begins at 6403, 1 ,1 and ends at 7798, 254, 63 in CHS notation. Since the disk has 255 heads and 63 sectors, the corrispective LBA addresses would be 102864258 and 125290810, isn't it ? And, what of these data can I pass to dd (or dd_rescue) in order to transfer the partition ? Or can you suggest a better way to rescue the partition ? Thanks in advance, Andrea If I were in your situation and had enough GB on a spare disk to hold the whole SSD, I would do something like the following: dd if=/dev/whole_solid_state_disk \ of=/path/to/spareGB/SSD.image \ conv=noerror bs=512 And then I MIGHT try some tricks to find the ext3 super blocks of the image, and/or dd about the last 10GB out of the image as a second image to do e2fsck's and loop mounting on. if I had less space (and no time to buy an extra USB hard drive) and could translate the CHS to bytes/blocks of disk space, I would do something like: assume 512 blocks, and HeadSector size of 7697074bytes bc of 7697074*6402/512 yields 96243491 which is probably completely wrong. (is this roughly a 55GB device?) dd if=/dev/whole_solid_state_disk \ of=/path/to/spare11GB/SSD.image \ seek=96243491 conv=noerror bs=512 And remember, the device is already failing... you MIGHT only get one more read, so take that into consideration when choosing the method for getting the image. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
Andrea Mastellone wrote, On 09/24/2008 01:10 PM: Todd Denniston wrote: Andrea Mastellone wrote, On 09/24/2008 11:12 AM: Hi, if I had less space (and no time to buy an extra USB hard drive) and could translate the CHS to bytes/blocks of disk space, I would do something like: assume 512 blocks, and HeadSector size of 7697074bytes bc of 7697074*6402/512 yields 96243491 which is probably completely wrong. (is this roughly a 55GB device?) Yes, it is about 55 GiB device. Can i proceed so with this ? No warranties, you get to keep the broken chunks. I was just playing about with the math based on the info that fdisk puts out in the 'p' information, which for my disk was: Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes and I was guessing was: Units = cylinders of 15033 * 512 = 7697074 bytes based on you indicating the partition in question was 10GB and THAT partition having 7798-6403=1395 cylinders 10*1024*1024*1024/1395=7697074 So these are VERY round about numbers... If you are not going to capture the whole disk, then I would capture significantly more than the calculations show and then trim that down to work with. If I _/HAD/_ to capture less than 55GB of the device, with only the insufficient data I have now, I would do a something more like setting seek to the order of 7697074*6000/512=90200085 and then start looking for filesystem headers in the data. My preference though would be capture the whole device, because it gives you a lot more chances to come up with the correct data. One example of more chances, would be to 'fix' the partition table in a copy of the image, i.e, you know the partition ran from 6403 to 7798 and something like Partitioned loopback devices[1] MIGHT be able to help. Granted we are already WAY outside my comfort zone in giving advise about recovering data from a device that I don't own. If it is really important, there are folks who will do the whole job for a fee. Again no warranties, you get to keep the broken chunks. dd if=/dev/whole_solid_state_disk \ of=/path/to/spare11GB/SSD.image \ seek=96243491 conv=noerror bs=512 Andrea And remember, the device is already failing... you MIGHT only get one more read, so take that into consideration when choosing the method for getting the image. [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/110468/ http://lwn.net/Articles/251908/ http://lwn.net/Articles/274113/ -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installation weirdness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, On 09/24/2008 04:07 PM: Only sent it once, Dude. On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 14:33 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Downloaded i386 installation DVD. Went to install, but installation is calling for a 'Disc 1'. What 'Disc 1'? Isn't the installation DVD sufficient? Any reason you sent this three times? What I tell you three times is true -- Lewis Carroll, The Hunting of the Snark. poc I'm mostly with POC on this, check the archive. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-September/author.html#02830 You might not have sent multi copies, but your client|email subsystem|ISP did. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gui editor latex under gnome
Bruno Wolff III wrote, On 09/23/2008 09:12 AM: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:12:38 +0200, Adel ESSAFI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list I need a GUI editor for latex. Particulary i want to ask if there is a feature that permits an instant visualization of the result as in latex editor (http://www.latexeditor.org/) Thanks for help Adel lyx might do what you want. +1 lyx LyX is a document processor that encourages an approach to writing based on the structure of your documents (WYSIWYM), and not simply their appearance (WYSIWYG). it does not instantly do a TeX render, but it gives you an idea of what the document will look like while writing (it hides most of the tags and gives a rendering of what they do, _similar_ to a WYSIWYG editor), and you can do a full render when you need to know exactly what it will look like. And full La|Tex (AKA ERT in lyx speak) can be put in _as_needed_ (which is not often for most of us) for more control. http://www.lyx.org/ The users list can be of moderate volume, but very helpful: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists And IIRC you can `yum install lyx` to get it with fedora. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: encrypted swap question
DanMitton wrote, On 09/21/2008 01:18 AM: So, is it possible to read the passphrase from a USB drive at boot time?? :-? Thanks. An alternative to the Red Hat way[0] is to use tuxonice[1]. If you do not have a smartcard, you can store a keyfile on external media such as a cd-rom or usb thumb drive.[2] Tech Note that I have not as _yet_ attempted either Chris's or Alon's method, so salt as desired. I will eventually have to use one of them. Bias Note: for ssh-agent with DoD smart card, I have only been able to get Alon's method working, and am not happy about fedora not including it or enough documentation to get their method working. [0] i.e., what Chris Snook was indicating. I suspect some of the pieces may already be there in fedora, but it seems at times there is a bit of friction between RH folks and anything Alon BarLev is involved with, so you will probably have to follow all the tuxonice build directions if you go that route. [1] http://wiki.tuxonice.net/EncryptedSwapAndRoot [2] http://wiki.tuxonice.net/EncryptedSwapAndRoot#head-4e7474b9357309c5f8be5563c0970e72f5483aed -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: spec file for rpms
David Hláèik wrote, On 09/22/2008 11:54 AM:
Hi guys,
i am new at this.
I want to make a rpm from a program source. It does not contain rpm spec
file by default so i need to create one.
Is there any way to make creation of spec files easier? some tools etc ... ?
Thanks in advance!
David
http://freshmeat.net/projects/checkinstall/
I have used checkinstall, and it will make a 'get you going' spec file, but
the produced spec file is not very nice.
I took the one it made for me (for the software I wanted to package) and
compared it to the one that comes with the kernel from fedora, and made
changes that seemed sane. {I understand reasonably how to do the kernel
compile by hand, so seeing how they did it in the spec file gave me clues to
how to do what I wanted.}
such changes as:
-BuildRoot: /var/tmp/XALTPlcbbmBlCXeZdMMaE/package
+BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
just before the %files entry.
+%clean
+rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
Also the fedora guidelines may point you towards filling in some things you
might not have thought about, and if you follow them might get what ever
package you are making the spec for accepted in fedora faster.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines
and in particular
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Writing_a_package_from_scratch
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rpmdevtools
{Todd: wonders if seeing those last two links would have made life easier...}
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