Hard Drive upgrade with Fedora 12 installed
Hi, I'm trying to upgrade the hard drives in my computer, and I could use some help transitioning the Fedora 12 installation that I have to the new hard drive without reinstalling the operating systems that I have on my computer. I have had PC DOS 2000 installed on a 6 GiB hard drive, Windows XP Professional on a 40GB hard drive, and Fedora 12 on another 40 GB hard drive. I have purchased a 500 GB hard drive to take the place of the two 40 GB hard drives. The XP and the PC DOS I can handle, but I am unsure of how to transition the Fedora 12 installation due to the fact that I know next to nothing about SELinux, how it affects /etc/fstab since Fedora started enabling SELinux by default years ago, nor how to copy/rebuild the /dev and /proc trees on the new hard drive. Any help you can give me would seriously be appreciated. Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Hard Drive upgrade with Fedora 12 installed
On 12/29/2009 11:09 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: William M. Quarles wrote: The XP and the PC DOS I can handle, but I am unsure of how to transition the Fedora 12 installation due to the fact that I know next to nothing about SELinux, how it affects /etc/fstab since Fedora started enabling SELinux by default years ago, nor how to copy/rebuild the /dev and /proc trees on the new hard drive. Any help you can give me would seriously be appreciated. SELinux: just disable it before the operation, get your system working on the new drive and then think about reenabling it. /proc: there is nothing to rebuild, the files are all virtual. Yeah, I realized that later. /dev: nothing special to rebuild, all automatic Are you sure about that? I could have sworn... Your real issues are: - when you copy the data (better if using a rescue disk) to the new partitions you will have different partition name and maybe different filesystem UUID; this will affect /etc/fstab and grub.conf - grub has to be installed on the new drive and its config modified - the booting process is also dependent on your initrd in /boot Did you search for some detailed tutorial on how to do this? I guess this process has been described many times in the past. Yeah, actually I did do a search, and couldn't find anything worth using regarding Fedora. Perhaps I should have searched Linux instead of Fedora, but oh well/ It is not a difficult operation: you just copy all the files and then repair the boot process. As always, the devil is in the details. How do I determine the filesystem UUIDs? That's always been a mystery to me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F12 installation woes with DVD plus online repositories
Hi all, I'm trying to install Fedora 12 with the installation DVD plus downloading extra packages and updates with an Internet connection to the online repositories for extra packages and updates. However, the speed of the installation process is seriously troubling me. I know that yum is set up to randomly select mirrors for downloads of updates and post-main-installation... isntallation... of other packages selected to be installed through GNOME Package Kit. Would Anaconda use mirrors to download the packages in my case, or are they all coming off of the Fedora Project servers? Would I be better off downloading the updates and extra packages later then? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why is the base architecture i586?
For years the Fedora developers have said that changing the base architecture for all of the packages from i386 to i586 would actually make the code less efficient for i686 processors due to the large bumber of bug workarounds in i586 code for many i586 processors. So does anybody know why this change was done? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
Markus Kesaromous wrote: To: fedora-list@redhat.com From: wal...@bellsouth.net Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:11:56 -0400 Subject: Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10 Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote: Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I can buy and use with Fedora 10? Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15: http://is.gd/2wuqo I've had good luck with ralink myself. A comment there says 2.6.24 or better. Sounds good. Are there any PCI producta that you specifically know of available with the Ralink chipset that also support the 5 GHz band? Thanks, William Please be aware that ralink 27xx and 28xx and beyond are not supported by fedora. Everytime fedora kernel is updated, you will have to rebuild the ralink driver for that updated kernel. And it is not just a matter of running make xconfig to enable the rt2860 driver in the staging area, and then building the kernel. You will have to enable wpa_supplicant settings in ralink's config.mk file like this: # Support Wpa_Supplicant HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y # Support Native WpaSupplicant for Network Maganger HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y before you start the kernel build. If you have multiple production systems that you wish to install this card on, you might want to choose a pci card that is currently supported by the madwifi driver or by the ath9k driver. Good luck. Unfortunately, as stated earlier (from the beginning?) of this thread, I tried an Atheros card, and I could not get it to work with my DVD decoder card installed. The system would lock up every time once the drivers were loaded, both in Windows XP and in Fedora 10, and even when the cards were sitting on separate IRQs. I'd be happy to try other chipsets, but I don't know which brands contain which chipsets. If someone could point me to a PCI card that uses a non-Atheros chipset and is dual-band, I'll buy it. Otherwise, could someone tell me how to find one of these cards that are supported by Linux yet do not use Atheros? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, William M. Quarles wal...@bellsouth.net mailto:wal...@bellsouth.net wrote: Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP Atheros-based wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP Pro and in Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot setup, I couldn't get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, William I don't currently use Wi-Fi on my desktop(s)... since I cabled my home with five gigabit-ethernet sockets per room. :-) But when I did use Wi-Fi, I used cardbus cards hooked to pci-to-cardbus adapters. Here's some: Addonics ADPCICB2 - $49 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B00023LTKK http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B00023LTKK And D-Link A/G Wi-Fi Cardbus adapter - $11.78 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8tag=mnmsprst-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C Total: $60.78 This also gives you the flexibility of exchanging Wi-Fi cards when new standards arrive, or exchanging cards in case of trouble, without opening up the case. (Cardbus cards are, for all intents and purposes, the same as PCI) Well, except for the fact you can remove a Cardbus adapter while the computer is still running with little trouble. Thanks for the tip, but I'd still be much more interested in a PCI card... although I do have the urge to add a Cardbus adapter later for a professional recording Cardbus sound card, so that I can also use the card on my laptop. I think that you might have overpaid for that PCI=to-Cardbus adaptor though, I could have sworn that I have seen them at a lower price before. Does anybody out there know of some good PCI wireless netowkring cards that aren't Atheros-based? Thanks, William Of course, there's also USB Wi-Fi dongles but in my experience those don't match the range of cardbus cards (antenna design, or power limits, perhaps?). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote: Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I can buy and use with Fedora 10? Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15: http://is.gd/2wuqo I've had good luck with ralink myself. A comment there says 2.6.24 or better. Sounds good. Are there any PCI producta that you specifically know of available with the Ralink chipset that also support the 5 GHz band? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Dual Display with Radeon Mobility 7500
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 18:20:06 William M. Quarles wrote: I'm trying to set up a spanning desktop on my Dell Latitude C640 laptop, which has an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics chipset and a Dell 1504FP LCD monitor in analog (VGA) mode. I use Gnome on Fedora 10. I can (sometimes) get the spanning desktop to work using System/Preferences/Hardware/Screen Resolution from the Gnome menu with the laptop configured to be on the left, and the external display configured to be on the right. However, this is actually the opposite of my physical setup at my desk. Every time that I try to switch the displays to their actual layout, the desktop still spans, but the displays are mirrored, which is not only useless, but can also cause problems, especially when sometimes it results in the display without the top and bottom bars missing (!). Does anybody know how I can get this work properly with the laptop on the right and the external monitor on the left? I would try to do it from the command line first, using xrandr. You can put all desktops left, right, up, down of each other, overlap, rotate, reflect sideways, upside-down, inside-out, and whatnot... When you sort out the options that make it work as you wish, you can put it in ~/.login or /etc/rc.local or whereever... man xrandr It seems that putting the command in ~/.login is not useful, as it gets overridden. I still have to run xrandr manually every time that I log in. That is, unless I have to do something besides creating the ~/.login file, entering the xrandr command in it, saving the file, and then setting the ~/.login file to be executable. Does anybody know what else would need to be done? I also don't see how using /etc/rc.local would do any good, as I would think that Fedora would still be in text-mode at that point. Then again, I know next to nothing about current x.org stuff and how to get a spanning display properly configured. HELP! I need somebody... HELP! Not just anybody... HELP! You know I need someone... HE-e-elp! Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
Tim wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:52 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote: it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card Have you tried the obvious of moving the cards between slots. Some conflicts are just because of shared IRQs (some slots share IRQs with other slots, or other on-board hardware). Yes, and I have also tried reassigning the IRQs with the BIOS to fully make sure that they don't conflict. I still could not get them to work together, so I am pretty sure that it is not an IRQ problem. Neither OS locks up until it has loaded the drivers for both cards. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problems with Dual Display with Radeon Mobility 7500
I'm trying to set up a spanning desktop on my Dell Latitude C640 laptop, which has an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics chipset and a Dell 1504FP LCD monitor in analog (VGA) mode. I use Gnome on Fedora 10. I can (sometimes) get the spanning desktop to work using System/Preferences/Hardware/Screen Resolution from the Gnome menu with the laptop configured to be on the left, and the external display configured to be on the right. However, this is actually the opposite of my physical setup at my desk. Every time that I try to switch the displays to their actual layout, the desktop still spans, but the displays are mirrored, which is not only useless, but can also cause problems, especially when sometimes it results in the display without the top and bottom bars missing (!). Does anybody know how I can get this work properly with the laptop on the right and the external monitor on the left? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP Atheros-based wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP Pro and in Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot setup, I couldn't get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Dual Display with Radeon Mobility 7500
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 18:20:06 William M. Quarles wrote: I'm trying to set up a spanning desktop on my Dell Latitude C640 laptop, which has an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics chipset and a Dell 1504FP LCD monitor in analog (VGA) mode. I use Gnome on Fedora 10. I can (sometimes) get the spanning desktop to work using System/Preferences/Hardware/Screen Resolution from the Gnome menu with the laptop configured to be on the left, and the external display configured to be on the right. However, this is actually the opposite of my physical setup at my desk. Every time that I try to switch the displays to their actual layout, the desktop still spans, but the displays are mirrored, which is not only useless, but can also cause problems, especially when sometimes it results in the display without the top and bottom bars missing (!). Does anybody know how I can get this work properly with the laptop on the right and the external monitor on the left? I would try to do it from the command line first, using xrandr. You can put all desktops left, right, up, down of each other, overlap, rotate, reflect sideways, upside-down, inside-out, and whatnot... When you sort out the options that make it work as you wish, you can put it in ~/.login or /etc/rc.local or whereever... man xrandr Cool, I just ran xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS and it worked! So if I were to report a bug in the Gnome tool that seems to be screwing this up, should I report it against the gnome-display-properties application, and thus the control-center RPM? Or should I report it against something at a lower level? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Mike Cloaked wrote: William M. Quarles-2 wrote: Also, I'd like to add, it is really sad in the sense of backwards-compatibility when I'm having more luck running the Windows version of Maple 7 under Wine than I am having trying to get it to work in Fedora. I can't get the graphs to display using Wine, but at least it does operations well enough. Is there some special reason why you are using such an old version of Maple? Currently Maple 12 installs in F10/F11 just fine. Maple 12 has so much more than the old versions prior to Maple 9.5 Yeah, actually I'm poor and I can't afford to buy Maple 12 yet. But they are actually up to Maple 13 now even (yes, mathematicians aren't afraid of particular numbers! ;-p). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
stan wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:04:40 -0400
William M. Quarles wal...@bellsouth.net wrote:
#
#!/bin/sh
# Copyright (c) 1993-2001 by Waterloo Maple Inc.
# All rights reserved. Unauthorized duplication prohibited.
# Permission is granted to modify this file to be appropriate
# for use at the installation for which Maple was purchased.
# This script runs Maple 7 with a Motif interface.
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
case $0 in
*/*)exec `dirname $0`/maple -x $*
;;
*) exec maple -x $*
;;
esac
##
Could you change the script to something like this? Is it necessary to
run dirname under the old kernel version? Seems the output should be
the same over versions of the library.
DIR_NAME = `dirname $0`
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
case $0 in
*/*)exec $DIR_NAME/maple -x $*
;;
*) exec maple -x $*
;;
esac
In fact, I'm not sure why you have the case statement, since dirname
returns a . if there is no directory path.
Should just be able to do
DIR_NAME=`dirname $0`
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
exec $DIR_NAME/maple -x $*
Is this way off the wall? Seems like it should work.
Thank you for the suggestion. Actually, that is a good idea, instead I
took it a step further by moving the export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 to
where the actual binary is called to be executed in the script named
maple. So the bottom of the maple script looks like this:
#
if [ $XMAPLE ]
then
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
exec ${MAPLE}/$MAPLE_SYS_BIN/maplew $IPARAM $DISPLAYARG $PARAM
else
if [ $IPARAM ]
then
echo $0: invalid parameters: $IPARAM
else
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
exec ${MAPLE}/$MAPLE_SYS_BIN/cmaple $INCLUDES $PARAM
fi
fi
Doing that, I get this error message:
/usr/local/maple_su/bin.IBM_INTEL_LINUX/maplew: error while loading
shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory
OK, does anyone else think it's bizarre that just because the FC10 glibc
lacks LinuxThreads, that I'm getting a missing library file error when
that library is actually installed on my system? Anyway, I guess that's
why everyone on here is still saying to avoid closed-source software...
anyone know of any open-source computer algebra software?
Peace,
William
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Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 22:20 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote: I don't see what the point is of making Linux (i.e. specifically the kernel) reverse-compatible if the GNU distributors (e.g. The Fedora Project) don't allow GNU to be so. AFAIK Linus refuses to guarantee binary backwards compatibility for the kernel, to allow him to change APIs when he feels it necessary. That's not what the Fedora developers told me in the past messages about reverse compatibility in the kernel on this list, but even if that were the case, I've been able to get Maple 7 to work on older versions of Fedora using 2.6 kernels. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Help with d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs
I have a directory in my home directory named .gvfs with the following properties when I do an ls -Al: d? ? ? ??? .gvfs I can't access it, delete it, nor rename it; nor can root do any of those things. I keep getting error messages in the terminal saying as such, too. Does anybody know how I can fix this? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help with d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs
davide wrote: William M. Quarles walrus at bellsouth.net writes: I have a directory in my home directory named .gvfs with the following properties when I do an ls -Al: d? ? ? ??? .gvfs I can't access it, delete it, nor rename it; nor can root do any of those things. I keep getting error messages in the terminal saying as such, too. Does anybody know how I can fix this? I had the same after changing my uid and gid. I tried for a while to deal with this file, then I simple gave up. After the reboot, it was simple to delete it :-) (I suppose it's better to delete it, outside gnome session) Yeah, I had to go into rescue mode with an installation disc and run fsck, through which the problem was fixed. No deletion necessary! Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip # repoquery compat-libstdc++\* compat-libstdc++-33-0:3.2.3-66.i586 compat-libstdc++-33-0:3.2.3-66.x86_64 compat-libstdc++-296-0:2.96-142.i586 Try installing one or more of those (yum install ...) and see what happens. As previously stated, those libraries are installed on my system. However, I need to use compat-libstdc++-296 from Fedora 5 or earlier, as the actual C++ library that I need was later (very stupidly I might add) removed from that package. Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Kevin Kofler wrote: William M. Quarles wrote: The line export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 is a tweak that I have had to add since Red Hat Linux 9 to get Maple 7 to work. That hack is no longer supported (and hasn't been since Fedora Core 5 (!)), thus your error. The purpose of that hack was to force glibc to use the old LinuxThreads implementation instead of the current NPTL (Native POSIX Thread Library) (which is normally fully backwards-compatible, but some applications relied on LinuxThreads bugs and thus needed that hack to work). But LinuxThreads was removed (completely) in Fedora Core 5, so the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL hack cannot work anymore. Where can I find more information on this LinuxThreads deal? Also, I'd like to add, it is really sad in the sense of backwards-compatibility when I'm having more luck running the Windows version of Maple 7 under Wine than I am having trying to get it to work in Fedora. I can't get the graphs to display using Wine, but at least it does operations well enough. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
FC10 character input dropping bytes
I keep getting messages like the following in my system messages log: Jul 5 06:37:13 localhost kernel: psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away. In addition, the mouse and the keyboard frequently stop responding. Sometimes the mouse does not move at all, and sometimes characters I input from the keyboard just get lost in the mix. This is not due to a slow system, as I am using a Pentium 4 with 1GB of RAM, which is well more than enough to run FC10. In addition, this problem only seemed to pop up in the last few days. Does anybody have any idea as to what might be going on? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
OK, I wasn't able to get enough attention or help the first time I posted about this error, so I am trying again. I installed Maple 7 on my laptop running Fedora 10. Maple 7 is somewhat old now (original release in 2001), and it takes some tweaking with Fedora 10 to work, but it should work. However, it is not. The script that is used to open Maple in X-mode is found below, called xmaple. The line export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 is a tweak that I have had to add since Red Hat Linux 9 to get Maple 7 to work. The only other tweak that I have done is to install compat-libgcc-296-2.96-135.i386 and compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-135.i386 from Fedora Core 5. # #!/bin/sh # Copyright (c) 1993-2001 by Waterloo Maple Inc. # All rights reserved. Unauthorized duplication prohibited. # Permission is granted to modify this file to be appropriate # for use at the installation for which Maple was purchased. # This script runs Maple 7 with a Motif interface. export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 case $0 in */*)exec `dirname $0`/maple -x $* ;; *) exec maple -x $* ;; esac ## I get the following error message every time that I run the script: [will...@quarlewm2 ~]$ xmaple dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /usr/local/bin/xmaple: line 13: /maple: No such file or directory /usr/local/bin/xmaple: line 13: exec: /maple: cannot execute: No such file or directory I'm mainly concerned with the fact that when dirname is called, I get a shared library error. I'm also experiencing odd troubles with Wine, but I don't know if it is a similar root cause or not. HELP PLEASE! Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
stan wrote: I don't know if this would help, but could you run an old version of Fedora in a virtual machine and run your maple session from there? You already know it works with old Fedora. So your problem becomes one of creating the virtual machine. Many on this list have expertise at that (I don't), but from reading this list it seems that VirtualBox is a good way to start. It probably would work, but I only have 1GB of RAM on my laptop and I am maxed out. From what I read, more than 1GB is needed to run a VM. It really seems beyond what should be necessary to get this program to work. We had a great debate on this list once about reverse compatibility and why this or that fairly essential library is no longer included, even when installation disc space is not a consideration. I don't see what the point is of making Linux (i.e. specifically the kernel) reverse-compatible if the GNU distributors (e.g. The Fedora Project) don't allow GNU to be so. But alas, I will leave that debate to gather dust on the archives, as it seems to have fallen upon deaf developers' ears. Although finally my suggestion of advancing the architecture of the OS has finally happened... to bad it was done for i586 instead of i686, and there is no longer an i686 Fedora kernel in release 11... Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 22:09 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 21:04 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote: dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open What does ldd /usr/bin/dirname say? [r...@quarlewm2 ~]# ldd /usr/bin/dirname linux-gate.so.1 = (0x005bc000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x002f4000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x002cf000) That's fine, but if you do: LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 ldd /usr/bin/dirname I'm betting you'll get the failure you already reported, i.e. the F10 library isn't built to work with an older kernel. You need to either upgrade your version of Maple, or downgrade your system (or run an old system under a virtual machine). poc I'm using the Fedora 10 updated kernel (currently kernel-2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686). No 2.4 kernels involved. The kernel is supposed to be backwards-compatible. Actually, I get a different error message: [willi...@quarlewm2 ~]$ LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 ldd /usr/bin/dirname /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Ed Greshko wrote: William M. Quarles wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-06-22 17:49:47, William M. Quarles wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-06-22 04:36:52, William M. Quarles wrote: Mike Cloaked wrote: William M. Quarles-2 wrote: ... OK, yes, I know this technically shouldn't work but a hack or two on thescripts that start Maple 7 and installing compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-135 from Fedora Core 5 make it work I understand. Possibly packages compat-libstdc++-33 and libXp may be needed? Did you read the error message that I had posted? The files that cannot be found are from glibc-2.9-3, yet they are installed. Possibly it is a library search path problem? See `man ldconfig` and ld.so.conf and ld.so.conf.d/. I think that you are right, but I'm not exactly sure what to do about it. I ran '/sbin/ldconfig', no help. I tried adding /usr/local/lib/ to that command line in order to be sure that my relocated compat libraries were found. [r...@quarlewm2 bin]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf ... FWIW, when I needed to I just added /usr/local/lib at the top of /etc/ld.so.conf, like the various files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/, and then ran `ldconfig` (no options or paths). I don't know what FWIW means (for what it's worth?), but thanks for the info. However, the error message dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory still appears no matter what I try. Also since this error started, I cannot get Gnome-Package-Kit Application (gpk-application) to get past Waiting for service to start once I have told it which packages to install. Peace, William If you know what binary is issuing the error message you can readelf -d binary | grep RPATH to determine the library path of the binary. I've also found that ldd -v binary is helpful in tracking down problems in that area. I'm not exactly sure what definition you are using for binary in this case. The binary programs that are issuing the error messages are bash and dirname. The binary libraries that are mentioned in the error messages are libc.so.6 and libdl.so.2. Could you be more specific as to what you mean by binary in this case? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Mike Cloaked wrote: William M. Quarles-2 wrote: OK, yes, I know this technically shouldn't work but a hack or two on the scripts that start Maple 7 and installing compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-135 from Fedora Core 5 make it work I understand. Possibly packages compat-libstdc++-33 and libXp may be needed? Did you read the error message that I had posted? The files that cannot be found are from glibc-2.9-3, yet they are installed. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-06-22 04:36:52, William M. Quarles wrote: Mike Cloaked wrote: William M. Quarles-2 wrote: ... OK, yes, I know this technically shouldn't work but a hack or two on thescripts that start Maple 7 and installing compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-135 from Fedora Core 5 make it work I understand. Possibly packages compat-libstdc++-33 and libXp may be needed? Did you read the error message that I had posted? The files that cannot be found are from glibc-2.9-3, yet they are installed. Possibly it is a library search path problem? See `man ldconfig` and ld.so.conf and ld.so.conf.d/. I think that you are right, but I'm not exactly sure what to do about it. I ran '/sbin/ldconfig', no help. I tried adding /usr/local/lib/ to that command line in order to be sure that my relocated compat libraries were found. [r...@quarlewm2 bin]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf [r...@quarlewm2 bin]# ls /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ alliance.conf kernel-2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.i686.conf octave-i386.conf tix-i386.conf atlas-i386.conf kernel-2.6.29.4-1.rt17.1.fc10.ccrma.i686.rt.conf ogre-i386.conf wine-32.conf cernlib-2006-g77-i386.conf kernel-2.6.29.5-1.rt21.1.fc10.ccrma.i686.rt.conf qt-i386.conf xulrunner-32.conf cernlib-2006-i386.conf mysql-i386.conf R-i386.conf I posted the verbose output from '/sbin/ldconfig -v /lib/ /usr/lib/ /usr/local/lib/' (yes, redundant, I know) up here: http://fpaste.org/paste/16107 If anybody can figure this out for me, I'd really appreciate it. I have to get this working soon. Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
M A Young wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, William M. Quarles wrote: Did you read the error message that I had posted? The files that cannot be found are from glibc-2.9-3, yet they are installed. Two thoughts; 1) try setenforce 0 - selinux can sometimes cause things not to work in unexpected ways if you aren't looking for this sort of permission problem. setenforce 1 or a reboot will reenable it (if it was on in the first place) I tried combining that with Tony Nelson's advice, it didn't seem to help any, but thanks for the suggestion. 2) does it make any difference if you install the glibc-devel package (some applications look for .so files rather than more versioned equivalents) It was already installed. 2a) if you are on an x86_64 machine and maple isn't also x86_64, do you have the glibc.i386 (or i686?) package installed? snip 32-bit i686 all the way, but again, thanks for the suggestion. Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Third release in a row - sound works at release, die after upgrade
Bill Davidsen wrote: For the third release in a row, a release which worked for recording from line or microphone at the initial release has stopped after installing the first round of updates. Is working sound input considered a bug which must be stamped out quickly? snip Yeah, I think so, because I've been struggling for months trying to get my sound card and my DVD decoder card to coexist. Even after I take out the DVD decoder card and play some tricks, I still can't get my sound card to work like it is supposed to work. Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-06-22 17:49:47, William M. Quarles wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-06-22 04:36:52, William M. Quarles wrote: Mike Cloaked wrote: William M. Quarles-2 wrote: ... OK, yes, I know this technically shouldn't work but a hack or two on thescripts that start Maple 7 and installing compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-135 from Fedora Core 5 make it work I understand. Possibly packages compat-libstdc++-33 and libXp may be needed? Did you read the error message that I had posted? The files that cannot be found are from glibc-2.9-3, yet they are installed. Possibly it is a library search path problem? See `man ldconfig` and ld.so.conf and ld.so.conf.d/. I think that you are right, but I'm not exactly sure what to do about it. I ran '/sbin/ldconfig', no help. I tried adding /usr/local/lib/ to that command line in order to be sure that my relocated compat libraries were found. [r...@quarlewm2 bin]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf ... FWIW, when I needed to I just added /usr/local/lib at the top of /etc/ld.so.conf, like the various files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/, and then ran `ldconfig` (no options or paths). I don't know what FWIW means (for what it's worth?), but thanks for the info. However, the error message dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory still appears no matter what I try. Also since this error started, I cannot get Gnome-Package-Kit Application (gpk-application) to get past Waiting for service to start once I have told it which packages to install. Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10
OK, yes, I know this technically shouldn't work but a hack or two on the scripts that start Maple 7 and installing compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-135 from Fedora Core 5 make it work I understand. However, I am having the following error messages pop up in the terminal window every time that I try to start xmaple: dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Any idea how this broke and how I can fix this? RPM shows that glbc-2.9-3 and all associated packages are installed, which owns those two files. Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
David Timms wrote: snip All I'm saying is that hitting reply to any other message sent to fedora*-lists generates a message of the kind: to: fedora*-list, and therefore all lists members will see the responses, and threaded mail readers (like thunderbird) make it easy to follow a thread. snip Gmane should be able to retain threads. I CCed you on a message to get your personal attention, which is probably why you received an e-mail without the headers organized in a way that left the list out of the message, but the list got the message, too, you just got two copies of it, one coming from the Gmane server (by way of Fedora Mailman) and the other coming from my SMTP server on my ISP. My last message got sent twice because I forgot to include Planet CCRMA on the first try (acutally, I accidentally sent the first copy without the Planet's Gmane group fully typed out, which is why I sent it twice). I will try not to make these mistakes in the future, but really, Gmane works as far as preserving the threads, I just have to be certain not to screw around with putting mail headers in my newsgroup messages, as it results in people getting messages without the list as part of the headers. Lesson learned. Really, all of this is off topic, could we please get back to getting my sound card working? I uninstalled Pulseaudio, and while alsamixer -c0 still picks up on my AWE card, none of the GUI utilities do. I do not have integrated audio on my computer, so that is not the issue here. I am suspecting that there is a bug that is not allowing this card to work because it is an ISA card (actually, I think it's an EISA), and something broke somewhere in the sound software that is keeping me from running the card. I haven't installed Jack as Alsa by itself should be sufficient for what I am trying to do, which is to integrate this computer into my home entertainment system. In addition, I can't fully boot about 75% of the time now, because X freezes when it is about to load, and my keyboard then becomes unresponsive. I'm about ready to throw in the towel and reinstall everything, which I hate doing, but considering how buggy this thing is acting, I don't know what other choice I have. Peace, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
[Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
William M. Quarles wrote: snip I uninstalled Pulseaudio, and while alsamixer -c0 still picks up on my AWE card, none of the GUI utilities do. I do not have integrated audio on my computer, so that is not the issue here. I am suspecting that there is a bug that is not allowing this card to work because it is an ISA card (actually, I think it's an EISA), and something broke somewhere in the sound software that is keeping me from running the card. I haven't installed Jack as Alsa by itself should be sufficient for what I am trying to do, which is to integrate this computer into my home entertainment system. In addition, I can't fully boot about 75% of the time now, because X freezes when it is about to load, and my keyboard then becomes unresponsive. I'm about ready to throw in the towel and reinstall everything, which I hate doing, but considering how buggy this thing is acting, I don't know what other choice I have. I managed to get the computer to load X (only after first starting up Windows XP's boot menu and CTRL+ALT+DEL my way back to Grub), so what's going on there I am still unsure of. I might have figured out the issue with the Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value card: only root has access it's controls. I really have no clue how that happened. Anyone on either list know how to fix that issue? Thanks, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
[Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
David Timms wrote: ps. it's sort of poor list etiquete to set the reply to address of mail to lists to yourself only. If you are willing to put your queries in public, it makes sense that all readers of the list should get replies to your thread. So I adjust the to back to f-m-l and cc yourself. I have no idea what you are talking about, and I didn't change anything having to do with reply-to settings. I use Gmane to for all of my lists, so everything I send to a Gmane newsgroup gets sent to all mailing list members no matter what. http://gmane.org/ I have been sending all of my replies to both the Planet CCRMA list and the Fedora Music list (via Gmane) in order to get input from all thinkers on the subject. If you missed a message, then you aren't subscribed to both lists. However, I still quote what was said, so you should be able to get the point. If you choose not to reply to both lists when you respond to one of my messages, that is your choice. Personally, I hate mailing lists, and I think it makes a lot more sense to put this stuff on newsgroups, especially high-volume things like the general Fedora list, rather than pumping up one's inbox (especially when that inbox has a quota) with messages of which 25-95% of which I don't read, depending on the list. Peace, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
[Fedora-music-list] RE: Mixer Wowes
David Timms wrote: ps. it's sort of poor list etiquete to set the reply to address of mail to lists to yourself only. If you are willing to put your queries in public, it makes sense that all readers of the list should get replies to your thread. So I adjust the to back to f-m-l and cc yourself. I have no idea what you are talking about, and I didn't change anything having to do with reply-to settings. I use Gmane to for all of my lists, so everything I send to a Gmane newsgroup gets sent to all mailing list members no matter what. http://gmane.org/ I have been sending all of my replies to both the Planet CCRMA list and the Fedora Music list (via Gmane) in order to get input from all thinkers on the subject. If you missed a message, then you aren't subscribed to both lists. However, I still quote what was said, so you should be able to get the point. If you choose not to reply to both lists when you respond to one of my messages, that is your choice. Personally, I hate mailing lists, and I think it makes a lot more sense to put this stuff on newsgroups, especially high-volume things like the general Fedora list, rather than pumping up one's inbox (especially when that inbox has a quota) with messages of which 25-95% of which I don't read, depending on the list. Peace, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
[Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
TheOther wrote: David, or Fernando, or ANYBODY else out there, do you have any idea why this isn't working for me? Something smells funny about Pulseaudio, but I don't know enough about it to be able to say why. Hello William, You can check the PlanetCCRMA archives to see my thoughts and experiences with PulseAudio. If you have Fedora 10 installed, remove PulseAudio. If you are using Fedora 7, 8, or 9, then upgrade to Fedora 10 so you can remove PulseAudio. Good Luck, Stephen. Sounds good to me, I don't even know what PulseAudio does other than it kept Rhythmbox from working when I first installed Fedora 10 on a computer. But what dependencies will I be breaking? Last time that I did that, I also found like a dozen or so other applications that depended on PulseAudio that my RPM database apparently didn't know about. I'll give it a shot! Thanks, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: Can't boot!
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009, William M. Quarles wrote: The computer seems to die right about when X is about to start. Can you try ctrlaltF1 (and F2, F3, ...) to see of console login is on? OK, this PC is playing mean tricks on me. The past 10 times I've tried to boot it, the boot has failed, and also, the keyboard stops responding (so CtrlAltanything doesn't work). This thing is behaving very inconsistently, because it just did a successful boot and I was able to log in. See the music list for my mixer wowes with the sound card and the DVD decoder card. Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
William M. Quarles wrote: William M. Quarles wrote: David Timms wrote: snip I'm assuming playback is a problem as well, not just mixer control ? Well, now that alsamixer is working, yes, I am getting sound. Do you know how to fix the GNOME mixer issues? OK, unfortunately, the sound that I am getting from XMMS playing MP3 files is intermittently distorted, and is somehow actually coming from the decoder card instead of the sound card, then getting passed through to the sound card via the internal patch cable that I have installed. I checked this by using alsamixer to vary the volume on the sound card's CD input, and also by varying the volume on the decoder card. alsamixer -c0 works intermittently, still no help with the GNOME mixer. Very annoying. Do you have the option to try without the decoder card installed, for a giggle ? DaveT. Yeah, I can give that a shot, I'll get back to you on it. But please, give me a reply to what I have written here already before I do. Thanks, William Haven't gotten around to that yet still, I'll probably try it tomorrow. Well, I got the PC to successfully boot once without the DVD decoder card, which did not help any of the problems. Then it locked up while attempting to start X the subsequent 10 times that I tried to boot. And once again, the computer is booting successfully, but I didn't change anything to make it start booting properly again. Once I got it going, alsamixer -c0 decided to work again, but I still can't get the card to show up in any GUI program in GNOME except for alsamixergui -c0, and that locks up when I attempt to make adjustments. David, or Fernando, or ANYBODY else out there, do you have any idea why this isn't working for me? Something smells funny about Pulseaudio, but I don't know enough about it to be able to say why. Peace, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
[Fedora-music-list] Mixer Wowes
Hey all, I have Fedora 10 and a machine with a (please, no laughing or snickering) Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value sound card and a Sigma Designs RealMagic Hollywood Plus DVD decoder card. While the computer loads the ALSA drivers needed for both cards, the sound controls in GNOME only display the Hollywood+ controls, and nothing is available for the AWE 64. I have used the AWE 64 successfully in another computer before that already had another sound card in it, so I don't know what the deal is here. Help. Please? Peace, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Sound on laptop docking station
Hey all, Does anybody out there on these three lists know how to get Fedora to reroute the sound from my laptop's speakers to the line out on the docking station to which the laptop is connected? I'm using a Dell Latitude C640 with a Dell C Dock II. The other outputs are software activated usually, but the signals still come from the laptop's integrated sound card (i.e. there is no actual sound hardware installed in the docking station). Thanks, William ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: Sound on laptop docking station
Does anybody know which software component might be responsible for this kind of switching (e.g. kernel, ALSA stuff, jack stuff, etc.) so that I might be able to submit a Bugzilla feature request somewhere? Thanks, William Steve O wrote: This happens on my Dell D830 laptop running FC10 as well. -Original Message- From: fedora-laptop-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-laptop-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rui Tiago Cação Matos Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:22 AM To: William M. Quarles Cc: planetcc...@ccrma.stanford.edu; fedora-music-list-h+wxahxf7alqt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org; fedora-laptop-list-h+wxahxf7alqt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org Subject: Re: Sound on laptop docking station This also happens on my Latitude D630. Sound isn't routed to the dock station as you say. Rui On 18/02/2009, William M. Quarles wal...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hey all, Does anybody out there on these three lists know how to get Fedora to reroute the sound from my laptop's speakers to the line out on the docking station to which the laptop is connected? I'm using a Dell Latitude C640 with a Dell C Dock II. The other outputs are software activated usually, but the signals still come from the laptop's integrated sound card (i.e. there is no actual sound hardware installed in the docking station). Thanks, William ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: hwo to install a goup with GUI
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: William M. Quarles wrote: Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I want to ask how to do to install a group of package graphically. the add/remove software allows only to parse the groups and then you have to select the needed packages. There is even select all option. Just to clarify, I think you meant Is there even a 'select all' option? Folks, it seems to me that he is referring to gpk-application or whatever the equivalent is for KDE, which of course uses Yum as its backend. Yes, I would like to know how to do this, too. You should be able to do it from the command line using yum, but I don't see any way to do it using any GUI utilities except when running Anaconda on the installation discs. I would suggest submitting a Bugzilla report if somebody hasn't already as a future feature request. As for now, it looks like we are stuck with using yum at the command line in order to mass-install or mass-uninstall groups of packages. I've only seen that I can install and uninstall entire groups using yum groupinstall group and yum groupremove group respectively, but these only install and remove the groups as they come on the installation discs (use yum grouplist to list groups of packages). They do not take into account the extra packages available from the Fedora repositories, nor any other repositories added to the yum configuration. Does anybody out there know how to add an entire group of packages, no matter where they come from, using yum at the commandline? Thanks, William If you are using yumex, click on the folder icon - this gives you the group view instead of the package view. From their, you can go down the tree one level and install the standard group packages with one checkbox. You still have to open the group to get the optional packages, but I believe you have to do that with yum as well. Is this what you are after, or am I missing something? Mikkel Yum doesn't use checkboxes, it's a command-line utility. I tried yumex and it doesn't seem to be able to do what Adel and I want to do either. Let's say that I want to install everything in the Games group. Easy in Anaconda, just right click and select Install all optional packages. After FC10 installation however, it simply just won't do it for you, so you are left with the tedious operation of going down the entire list to check every single check box. We want to AVOID having to do that. This is definitely a feature that needs to be addressed. William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Fedora-music-list] Sound on laptop docking station
Hey all, Does anybody out there on these three lists know how to get Fedora to reroute the sound from my laptop's speakers to the line out on the docking station to which the laptop is connected? I'm using a Dell Latitude C640 with a Dell C Dock II. The other outputs are software activated usually, but the signals still come from the laptop's integrated sound card (i.e. there is no actual sound hardware installed in the docking station). Thanks, William ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
[Fedora-music-list] Re: Sound on laptop docking station
Does anybody know which software component might be responsible for this kind of switching (e.g. kernel, ALSA stuff, jack stuff, etc.) so that I might be able to submit a Bugzilla feature request somewhere? Thanks, William Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote: This also happens on my Latitude D630. Sound isn't routed to the dock station as you say. Rui On 18/02/2009, William M. Quarles wal...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hey all, Does anybody out there on these three lists know how to get Fedora to reroute the sound from my laptop's speakers to the line out on the docking station to which the laptop is connected? I'm using a Dell Latitude C640 with a Dell C Dock II. The other outputs are software activated usually, but the signals still come from the laptop's integrated sound card (i.e. there is no actual sound hardware installed in the docking station). Thanks, William ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list fedora-laptop-l...@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
Re: hwo to install a goup with GUI
Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I want to ask how to do to install a group of package graphically. the add/remove software allows only to parse the groups and then you have to select the needed packages. There is even select all option. Just to clarify, I think you meant Is there even a 'select all' option? Folks, it seems to me that he is referring to gpk-application or whatever the equivalent is for KDE, which of course uses Yum as its backend. Yes, I would like to know how to do this, too. You should be able to do it from the command line using yum, but I don't see any way to do it using any GUI utilities except when running Anaconda on the installation discs. I would suggest submitting a Bugzilla report if somebody hasn't already as a future feature request. As for now, it looks like we are stuck with using yum at the command line in order to mass-install or mass-uninstall groups of packages. I've only seen that I can install and uninstall entire groups using yum groupinstall group and yum groupremove group respectively, but these only install and remove the groups as they come on the installation discs (use yum grouplist to list groups of packages). They do not take into account the extra packages available from the Fedora repositories, nor any other repositories added to the yum configuration. Does anybody out there know how to add an entire group of packages, no matter where they come from, using yum at the commandline? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Firewire HDD causes hard lockups
Hey all, I have a Futura Mobile Storage Solution 3.5 External IDE HDD Enclosure with USB 2.0 and Firewire support. I'm having problems using it with my Firewire connection. I was thinking about submitting a report to Bugzilla, but wanted to get some feedback first. The drive that I placed inside the enclosure is a Western Digital Protégé WD400EB-11CPFG0, with 40.0 fake GB. Every time that this drive is hooked up to my computer in Fedora 9 (and now Fedora 10) the system locks up hard. I had the drive connected during install of Fedora 10, and the installation program kept complaining about how the partition table on it was invalid, and asked if I wanted to create a new partition table for it. At some random point during the installation, the computer would lock up hard. The drive is for backup only, so I unplugged it, restarted installation and everything went fine. The drive is formatted with NTFS, as it was originally inside a Windows XP Pro computer, and I am now using it to back up my files on my laptop while running Windows XP Pro. I tried repartitioning and reformatting in Windows XP, but Fedora 10 installation complained again and the computer locked up hard sometime later again. Any thoughts? Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cooperative Bug Isolation for Fedora 10
No Fedora 3 RPMS? Why not? Just curious. Thanks, William -- Original message -- From: Ben Liblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Cooperative Bug Isolation Project (CBI) is now available for Fedora 10. CBI (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/cbi/) is an ongoing research effort to find and fix bugs in the real world. We distribute specially modified versions of popular open source software packages. These special versions monitor their own behavior while they run, and report back how they work (or how they fail to work) in the hands of real users like you. Even if you've never written a line of code in your life, you can help make things better for everyone simply by using our special bug-hunting packages. We currently offer instrumented versions of Evolution, The GIMP, GNOME Panel, Gnumeric, Nautilus, Pidgin, Rhythmbox, and SPIM. Download at http://www.cs.wisc.edu/cbi/downloads/. We support PackageManager, yum, apt, and many other RPM updater tools; see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/cbi/downloads/repo-config.html for customized configuration help for any of our supported distributions and updater tools. Or just download and install http://www.cs.wisc.edu/cbi/downloads/rpm/fedora-10-i386/RPMS.tools/cbi-package- config-10-10.i386.rpm to automatically configure most popular RPM updaters to use the CBI repository. It's that easy! Tell your friends! Tell your neighbors! The more of you there are, the more bugs we can find. We still offer CBI packages for Fedora 1/2/4/5/6/7/8/9 as well. When and if you decide to upgrade to Fedora 10, we'll be ready for you. Until then, your participation remains valuable even on older distributions. -- Dr. Ben, the CBI guy -- fedora-announce-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Reverse Compatibility Manifesto
OK, so I said the phrase Windows XP in a message, and suddenly NO ONE will reply? Seriously, I'll say it again, Microsoft and Sony (e.g. most of the PlayStation series) can do reverse compatibility fairly well, and Fedora is almost totally lacking in that arena. Get with the times doesn't always make sense. And if anybody says, Well, if you like reverse compatibility so much, why don't you shell out for Microsoft software like 90% of the rest of the herd. Uh, no. There are both commercial and free software products that need that reverse compatibility. Example: is there anybody out there doing natural science or engineering on Linux machines right now who is NOT using any commercial software whatsoever? And just because a free software product hasn't been updated in a while does not mean that the software is useless. I can't quadruple boot my machine just to run all of the software I use. It should not be necessary, especially when most of this software is designed for Red Hat/Fedora distributions, or can be installed and run using WINE. Any thoughts? William William M. Quarles wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Upstreams still building their binaries with GCC 2.95 (or 2.96 for that matter) should really be told to get with the times. GCC is at 4.3 now, 2.95 is just a long gone memory from the distant past. Sorry for taking so long to reply, for some reason my Gmane.org feed wasn't showing the latest replies on this thread. OK, Windows XP still runs nearly all programs from previous versions Windows, plus it has DOS emulation so that it can run many, but not all DOS programs. What is SO WRONG with some element of reverse compatibility? I know that some of you may feel that there is a hinder to progress there, but there has to be some kind of balance between bleeding-edge and interoperability with other software. I'm not talking about a need to build new binaries, I'm just talking about getting older software to run on a newer OS. This doesn't just include commercial software such as Maple, but also older open-source projects that haven't been updated in a while, but could still hypothetically work if the proper libraries were provided. William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296
Tom Horsley wrote: I've just started making my own compat rpm with libraries from older fedora versions packaged up to be installed on the new fedora to allow my older binaries to run. If it ever reaches the point where that isn't good enough, I guess I'll have to investigate upgrading after all :-). Think you could send me some of those? I'm running Fedora 8 right now, but I'm about ready to switch to Fedora 9 thanks to all of the complications of wireless networking that are fixed in Fedora 9. What version of Fedora are you running? Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296
Bill Davidsen wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:47:57 -0400 Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that no one should be building with those libraries, but in fact people do use binaries already using them. snip I've just started making my own compat rpm with libraries from older fedora versions packaged up to be installed on the new fedora to allow my older binaries to run. If it ever reaches the point where that isn't good enough, I guess I'll have to investigate upgrading after all :-). You might think about where to release that for other to find. WORD! Ditto on that one, that could be really useful to a number of people. You might want to see who would be willing to post that for you on a site for others to download. Peace, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296
Kevin Kofler wrote: Upstreams still building their binaries with GCC 2.95 (or 2.96 for that matter) should really be told to get with the times. GCC is at 4.3 now, 2.95 is just a long gone memory from the distant past. Sorry for taking so long to reply, for some reason my Gmane.org feed wasn't showing the latest replies on this thread. OK, Windows XP still runs nearly all programs from previous versions Windows, plus it has DOS emulation so that it can run many, but not all DOS programs. What is SO WRONG with some element of reverse compatibility? I know that some of you may feel that there is a hinder to progress there, but there has to be some kind of balance between bleeding-edge and interoperability with other software. I'm not talking about a need to build new binaries, I'm just talking about getting older software to run on a newer OS. This doesn't just include commercial software such as Maple, but also older open-source projects that haven't been updated in a while, but could still hypothetically work if the proper libraries were provided. William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296
Hey all, I'm using Fedora 8 on my laptop. The library known as libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 isn't there, which I need to run Maple 7 on my computer. This should be a part of the compat-libstdc++-296 RPM, as this library was originally a part of RHL 7.3 and 8.0 in libstdc++, and available in the compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.118 RPM for RHL 9. Does anybody know why this file was removed from the compat-libstdc++-296 RPM, and what I can do to get it from the SRPM again? (I'm guessing theoretcially it should still be part of the source code.) Thanks William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
