Re: screensaver vs dpms
jackson byers wrote $ uname -r 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE In my system, the screensaver (blanking the screen) seems to be working as expected. But, I am also experiencing occasional dpms-like suspend blanking, (I am sure it is suspend and not standby) which I don't want, and worse, I can't find out what is causing this response. I don't have an xorg.conf, and would rather keep it that way. If I get out of X via ctl-alt-bs, and then back in via startx, then xset q shows standby, suspend, off all at 0, ie disabled. So what else in f11 can be exciting that suspend? I have done some googling, but no help so far. Are there F11 guidelines for using both screensaver and dpms? tom horsley wrote Try man xset there is also a dpms option (and I've often noticed it fighting with gnome power manager). yes, I have tried the xset dpms flags option eg. 'xset dpms 1201 1801 2401' and these stay set until i reboot or kill X but I _think_ I have seen a stray dpms-like suspend occur at least once even with those settings. So it still looks to me like some other system control. I am using gnome; so maybe gnome power manager is doing something here. My system is a desktop not laptop. Do you have any more info as to just how in your case xset dpms was fighting with gnome power manager? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
screensaver vs dpms
$ uname -r 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE In my system, the screensaver (blanking the screen) seems to be working as expected. But, I am also experiencing occasional dpms-like suspend blanking, (I am sure it is suspend and not standby) which I don't want, and worse, I can't find out what is causing this response. I don't have an xorg.conf, and would rather keep it that way. If I get out of X via ctl-alt-bs, and then back in via startx, then xset q shows standby, suspend, off all at 0, ie disabled. So what else in f11 can be exciting that suspend? I have done some googling, but no help so far. Are there F11 guidelines for using both screensaver and dpms? TIA Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/s1-
begininstall-hd-x86.html
for details).
Agreed, and that is the best reference
I was looking again at this reference,
and I really don't think it is very good,
or likely to be helpful to someone trying to boot from hard disk.
That reference is(was) particularly important for showing explicitly
that you need the leading slash {/) for the directory.
The leading slash needed starting in F10,
prior to F10 no leading slash, which caused much confusion
when attempting hdinstall starting from F10 (see bugzilla ref below).
In the first place, I would have thought that almost anyone doing this
would want to (or need to) avoid CDs or DVDs altogether,
by abstracting vmlinuz, initrd.img and the images directory
from the ISO file,
and adding a stanza to grub.conf to boot from these.
There are no instructions for doing this, as far as I can see.
Well, you seem to have figured it out, congrats!
May I ask, just where did you find the instructions re install.img,?
I myself depended heavily on the references following;
not much on the fedora site
hdinstall was thoroughly discussed in these 3 refs:
1)
fedora-list nov 2008 * F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?
From: Mike Cloaked and response by Tom Horsley
2}
Bug 473351 - F10 HD install using the DVD iso file, initiated from grub, fails
3)View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/F10-HD-install---anyone-successfully-done-this--tp20740373p20741211.html
and a more recent thread:
4)fedora-list Jul 2009
Mail Lists li...@sapience.com
Re: Installing F11 from local hard drive
cheers,
Jack
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Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again
Rick Stevens responded: I think I tuned in late here, but I'm not clear what you're trying to do. If I'm reading this correctly: 1. You're running Fedora from hard disk 2. You're then loopback mounting an ISO image of F12 3. You're trying to install from that loopback mount You can't install a new Fedora on top of an already running Fedora to my knowledge. The install from DVD or LiveCD are special instances and Fedora is not running off the hard drive in those cases--it's running in a RAM disk. If you're trying to install via a network install (NFS or HTTP), then the ISO image itself is what you point at, not a loopback mount of it. The installer wants to see the ISO image itself, not the files in it. Rick, My interpretation of what the OP is trying to do is different than yours: He is trying to do a hard disk install of f12, operating from his current fedora(f11?). This hard disk install requires having an available partition completely separate from his current fedora. There is no notion, afaik, of install a new Fedora on top of an already running Fedora as you put it, whatever you might mean by on top of. This hard disk install does point to the f12 iso, but it also requires extracting the vmlinuz, initrd.img, and install.img from the iso, which i think requires doing the loopback mount. The install.img is placed in a images directory. There are strict requirements on where that images dir is to be placed; I am not sure, but i think the OP did this part correctly. Where he might be going wrong is how he interacts with Anaconda, as I tried to explain in my earlier reply He is not trying to do a network install, afaict. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again
jackson byers: There is no notion, afaik, of install a new Fedora on top of an already running Fedora as you put it, whatever you might mean by on top of. rick stevens: That's what I was trying to get at. He has to use a bootable image (LiveCD, thumbdrive, something) that brings up Anaconda. What I was trying to get at was that one can't update F11 while still running F11. The system being upgraded must be quiescent. yes, but afaik the OP is not trying to upgrade or update F11. Rather he is using F11 and the F12 iso, (no LiveCD, no thumbdrive) and following the hard disk install procedure for F12. F11 is left entirely unchanged. When complete he will still have his orig F11, and also a brand new F12 in a separate partition. rick stevens: There's no actual restriction on just where the ISO image itself is, so long as you can feed the full path to Anaconda by specifying the device and directory on that device (see http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/s1-begininstall-hd-x86.html for details). Agreed, and that is the best reference cheers, Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again
Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm taking the liberty of re-posting this query, as there seemed some problems with the previous posting, hopefully now resolved: Has anyone actually succeeded in booting Fedora-12 from the DVD ISO file on the hard disk, by adding a stanza to grub.conf ? I carried out the following commands: - [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mkdir /mnt/Fedora [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mount -o loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora/ [...@alfred ~]$ ls /mnt/Fedora/isolinux/ boot.cat boot.msg grub.conf initrd.img isolinux.bin isolinux.cfg splash.jpg TRANS.TBL vesamenu.c32 vmlinuz [...@alfred ~]$ ls /mnt/Fedora/images/ efiboot.img efidisk.img install.img pxeboot README TRANS.TBL [...@alfred ~]$ mkdir images [...@alfred ~]$ cp -a /mnt/Fedora/images/install.img images/ [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mkdir /boot/Fedora-12 [...@alfred ~]$ sudo cp -a /mnt/Fedora/isolinux/* /boot/Fedora-12/ - This is the entry I have added to /etc/grub.conf : - title Upgrade to Fedora-12 root (hd0,1) kernel /Fedora-12/vmlinuz ro initrd /Fedora-12/initrd.img - Now when I boot into this, all goes well until I try to install from Fedora-12*.iso when I the error Device /dev/sda6 does not appear to contain an installation image. Am I doing something wrong? You don't give enough detail. What you have shown I think looks ok (would have to check old notes to be sure) The missing information is just what exactly did you enter into the anaconda gui. I have no f12 experience, but in my successful f11 hard disk install I did this two ways 1) using repo= option in kernel line: #title Install Fedora 11 repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso reordr #root ... #kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz noselinux repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso #initrd /boot/f11/initrd.img 2)not using the repo= option #title Install Fedora 11 h NO repo= #root .. #kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz noselinux #initrd /boot/f11/initrd.img #here I have to pick /dev/sdb1 and /root/diso for directory you enter these in the anaconda gui. The leading slash / in /root/diso is essential. This is documented on the fedora site somewhere; the leading slash requirement started with f10. Are you operating from f11? or earlier? The entire process for hard disk install, including detailed instructions for the images directory, was subject of a long thread Mike Cloaked and Tom Horsley, I think in Nov 2008, including a bugzilla re the leading slash. I don't have that bugzilla ref right now. If my experience is any guide, if you follow the instructions in that ref, it should just work. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gmail endless redirecting
recent update $ uname -r 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE Fedora/3.5.6-1.fc11 Firefox/3.5.6 I am getting endless redirecting on my gmail nothing i try on the gmail site suggestions seems to help. it allows me to report the problem but I cant get out of the loop. The only 'fix' I have found so far is to reboot, then I seem to be ok for a while. But then the problem reoccurs when I say sign out of one gmail account and try another. Is this likely a firefox problem? or combo of f11 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE kernel and firefox 3.5.6 ? If i reboot to the earlier kernel 96, do I then need to also revert to earlier firefox? if so, how? In my recent attempts I clicked on firefox to be default browser icon changed from orange to blue. I fear I have made the problem even worse. How can I revert to standard firefox --the change didnt help and i would like to go back. Advice? anyone else on this list having similar problems? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to install Fedora-12?
If you 'cp' or 'mv' the vmlinuz and initrd.img to your internal disks, then grub can find them. But will it then be able to see the USB stick, in order to copy the Fedora-12 files to the hard disk? Otherwise the exercise seems pointless, as one might as well have copied the ISO file to the hard disk. Timothy Murphy All I can say is what I have successfully done, more than once. --I can _install_ to my USB external disk. ---I installed f11 via first downloading iso to my internal disks. and then followed hard-disk install procedure. ---I also installed f10 to my USB external disk, here via DVD. In both cases the anaconda installer sees the USB as sda and reorders my internal disks to sdb, sdc --In neither case, could I _boot_ the USB installs, unless I put the vmlinuz,initrd onto my internal disk and referenced properly that internal disk location with the proper root (hd1,0) in my grub.conf. This root (hd1,0) line in grub.conf does not use the reordered positions for disks as seen by anaconda. Instead it uses the internal disks as if the USB is not there at all; because that is what my BIOS sees. This is not pointless at all: my goal was to use external USB for the installs because I had no easily used room on my internal disks. Possibly I have misinterpreted what you are trying to do; if so, sorry for the noise Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to install Fedora-12?
Possibly I have misinterpreted what you are trying to do; I don't really understand what you did - you say you downloaded the ISO to your hard disk. and then did a hard-disk install. So how were you using the external USB for the install? I pick a partition on the USB when the Anaconda Installer starts. for F11 I did the d/l of iso and did a hard disk install to USB partition 3. for F10 I used the DVD and did the install to USB partition 2. I am thinking my success isn't helping you at all and I have probably misinterpreted you, here in particular: I was just wondering if there was a way of installing from my USB stick, I don't know what you mean installing from your USB stick. I was installing to my USB external disk Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kerneloops eating up cpu
by...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686.PAE top - 10:18:26 up 22:51, 5 users, load average: 1.26, 1.08, 1.02 Tasks: 145 total, 2 running, 143 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 97.4%us, 2.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2062832k total, 1743068k used, 319764k free, 159264k buffers Swap: 5960084k total, 36k used, 5960048k free, 786128k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 2338 root 20 0 2272m 381m 1724 R 90.8 18.9 1280:29 kerneloops 1871 root 20 0 111m 51m 9196 S 4.0 2.6 7:10.93 Xorg 2323 byers 20 0 56120 13m 9704 S 2.3 0.7 0:12.34 gnome-terminal 2731 byers 20 0 147m 35m 11m S 2.0 1.7 29:52.16 npviewer.bin 2546 byers 20 0 377m 114m 24m S 1.0 5.7 26:29.51 firefox kerneloops eating up cpu I don't know what triggered this. But I had just started security-only update, new kernel included. That update finished. I haven't yet rebooted to try the new kernel. Maybe safer to go back to previous ( ie one behind) instead to see if that kerneloops is fixed'? The time diagnostic cant be correct 1280. minutes? or am i misreading it? This machine has been hard-booted 2-3 times in last 2 days. Once a power failure, others because of X freezing on me. Advice? go ahead and reboot with new kernel? reboot with present kernel? reboot with one older kernel? thanks for any/all help Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to install Fedora-12?
I don't know anything about USB sticks. But my experience on booting f11 installed on an external USB drive may help you: In my case my BIOS does not recognize the USB drive at all. What I had to do was put the kernel (vmlinuz and initrd.img) somewhere on my internal hdisks. In my case I put them on sdb1 (I have 2 internal scsi hdisks), referenced then in grub.conf as root (hd1,0) For my f11 install, I downloaded the f11 iso somewhere onto my internal hdisks, and did a hard disk install to the USB disk. The presence of the external USB, causes the scsi disks to be reordered to sdb, sdc with the USB seen as sda for the anaconda installer. This disk reordering does not extend to the above root (hd1,0): I had to leave that just as if the USB disk is not connected ( because my BIOS doesn't see the USB disk). This works. Of course you are then tied to an install with the root fs on USB, and the kernel on internal hdisk. hth Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kerneloops eating up cpu
After googling I found this to be a common problem when some error message is flooding /var/log/messages. Apparently it is ok to killall kerneloops; I did, and this does of course stop it from eating cpu. But it doesn't solve the basic problem, what is flooding the messages file? In my case it is huge number of lines: Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_reset] *ERROR* mga_dma_reset called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_flush] *ERROR* mga_dma_flush called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_reset] *ERROR* mga_dma_reset called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_flush] *ERROR* mga_dma_flush called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_reset] *ERROR* mga_dma_reset called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_flush] *ERROR* mga_dma_flush called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_reset] *ERROR* mga_dma_reset called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Nov 29 13:27:04 localhost kernel: [drm:mga_dma_flush] *ERROR* mga_dma_flush called without lock held, held 0 owner f4041ae0 f4041ae0 Any advice on this? Might it be tied to my somewhat frequent X-freezes? As it stands now I will still continue to get the large messages file requiring me to truncate the file, every day or so Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to install Fedora-12?
Timothy Murphy replied: Under Fedora-11, the USB stick is /dev/sdc , with the Fedora-12 partition at /dev/sdc2 . However, when I ran grub interactively, and set grub root (hd2,1) it said that that disk did not exist. I tried hd0 to hd6 but it only found my 2 SCSI disks at hd0 and hd1 . It seems that grub does not necessarily see a USB disk, even if Fedora can see it. Yes, exactly the point of my earlier reply. If you 'cp' or 'mv' the vmlinuz and initrd.img to your internal disks, then grub can find them. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: disaster recovery Q's
Tom Horsley responded Everyone seems to think UUID= is infinitely better to use than LABEL=, but specifically because I can control the LABEL but have no control over the UUID, I always change the fstab and wot-not to use LABEL= after giving my partitions meaningful labels with e2label. I have been converted to using UUIDs also, but I have often wondered if it would be easy/worthwhile to convert back to using labels. In my experience, the UUID for the rootfs is also hidden away in the init file in the initrd.img. If one tries to convert from UUID to labels, doesn't the init file have to be changed also? (That requires unpacking, editing the init, repacking.) Or is it OK to leave UUID in that init file, but labels elsewhere? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: disaster recovery Q's
jackson byers wrote: In my experience, the UUID for the rootfs is also hidden away in the init file in the initrd.img. If one tries to convert from UUID to labels, doesn't the init file have to be changed also? Tom Horsley responded: I think only the UUID for the swap is stashed in there, and it only uses it if you are trying to resume from hibernate (or something like that). The only places I've ever needed to change are the root= parameters in the grub.conf file and the UUID= parameters in the fstab. .There is some parameter I set somewhere I think in /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd to disable hibernate I find the UUID explicitly on the mkrootdev line in init: Following is copied from my response to an older thread Sep 2009: In my experience, the UUID is also embedded internal to the initrd.img and this also should be consistent with the UUID in grub.conf to see this embedded UUID, you have to unpack the initrd.img and examine the 'init' file. Here is how I do it on my f11 [r...@localhost ~]# mkdir clean [r...@localhost ~]# cd clean [r...@localhost clean]# pwd /root/clean [r...@localhost clean]# cp /boot/bootf11usb3/initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img . [r...@localhost clean]# ls initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img [r...@localhost clean]# gunzip -c initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img | cpio -i 13701 blocks [r...@localhost clean]# ls bin etc initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img proc sys usr dev init lib sbin sysroot [r...@localhost clean]# less init near the end look for mkrootdev line: echo Creating root device. mkrootdev -t ext3 -o defaults,ro UUID=54c84c0a-040b-43bd-8887-202519baaae2 So my question remains: If i try to use labels instead of UUID, do i have to modify this mkrootdev line in init (initrd.img) ? jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mounting CDs -repost (was F11 and CD Failure)
Germán wrote I remember that, by those days, I downgraded the three packages (udev, libudev0, libvolume_id) to the previous version, I mean from version 141-4 to 141-3, and since then everything worked fine ;-) these udev downgrades along with a downgrade for rhythmbox were discussed as necessary for playing audio cds. Just a day or two ago I also suddenly couldnt play audio cd. I had sr0 error msgs, did google on sr0 error msg: fedora 11 rhythmbox Buffer I/O error on device sr0 one of the many responses: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-227041.html therein discussion for downgrading those 3 udev to 141-3 and for downgrading rhythmbox copied from somewhere in that thread: JEO: My favorite audio cd fixing command works: yum downgrade rhythmbox Good version:rhythmbox-0.12.1-3.fc11 Problem version: rhythmbox-0.12.3-1.fc11 In my case (running f11) my 3 udev already at 141-3 but my rhythmbox was at 12.3-1 Doing the above downgrade on rhythmbox and again I had audio cds playing with rhythmbox. HTH Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: booting fedora 11 from a fedora 10 grub?
In my opinion, you should still show us evidence that your f11 etc/fstab has[had] the same UUID as shown in your f11 stanza. [If during your sda2,sdb2 experiments you erased the line[s] with UUIDs that the f11 installer put in fstab, we cant tell, but if you just commented out the installer lines that is ok for this purpose]. It would also be useful to see results of # blkid you can run this from your f10. In my experience, the UUID is also embedded internal to the initrd.img and this also should be consistent with the UUID in grub.conf to see this embedded UUID, you have to unpack the initrd.img and examine the 'init' file. Here is how I do it on my f11 [r...@localhost ~]# mkdir clean [r...@localhost ~]# cd clean [r...@localhost clean]# pwd /root/clean [r...@localhost clean]# cp /boot/bootf11usb3/initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img . [r...@localhost clean]# ls initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img [r...@localhost clean]# gunzip -c initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img | cpio -i 13701 blocks [r...@localhost clean]# ls bin etc initrd-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE.img proc sys usr dev init lib sbin sysroot [r...@localhost clean]# less init near the end look for mkrootdev line: echo Creating root device. mkrootdev -t ext3 -o defaults,ro UUID=54c84c0a-040b-43bd-8887-202519baaae2 HTH jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: booting fedora 11 from a fedora 10 grub?
I've installed fedora 11 on the second sata drive. The machine boots off the first of these drives and the ide one contains windows. I copied the lines out of grub.conf on the f11 disk, and copied them to the grub.conf of the first disk, and reinstalled. why did you reinstall ? If I am not mistaken , that will generate a new different UUID and then the old stanza willl fail. The F11 isn't a reinstall, it's a first time install on a clean drive. This seems to contadict your original email, which says you copied the lines out of.. f11 disk, and copied them to the grub.conf ,and reinstalled That says to me you had the f11 installed, then did the copy, then reinstalled. Could you post to the list the line in your f11 /etc/fstab for the root (/) entry? It should show the UUID. Is it the same as you posted for UUID copied? or different? If it is different, that is your problem. If it is the same, I don't know. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: booting fedora 11 from a fedora 10 grub?
I've got a machine with three hard-drives in it. two sata and one ide. I've a fedora 10 (upgraded from 9) on the first sata drive, and I've installed fedora 11 on the second sata drive. The machine boots off the first of these drives and the ide one contains windows. I copied the lines out of grub.conf on the f11 disk, and copied them to the grub.conf of the first disk, andreinstalled. However, f10 boots fine, f11 doesn't boot. and grub gives me an error 17. why did you reinstall ? If I am not mistaken , that will generate a new different UUID and then the old stanza willl fail. HTH Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f11, endless messages: kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
f11 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.i686.PAE I am getting endless messages: from tail /var/log/messages: Sep 11 14:31:49 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:31:51 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:31:53 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:31:55 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:31:57 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:31:59 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:32:01 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:32:03 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Sep 11 14:32:05 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 this just keeps going, I didnt notice this at first today, the system seems to boot normally I haven't been using this f11 much at all since installing it about 1 month ago; It was installed using hdinstall from my main os f10. I mostly use my main f10. any suggestions? I dont know for sure, but I think this was not occurring on my previous days, weeks occasional boots of this f11. Reinstall only option? I havent done anything with fd0, so I am mystified. tia Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11, endless messages: kernel: end_request:
more info booted again into the 217.2.3 f11 with its continuing fd0 messages r...@localhost log]# ls -l mess* -rw---. 1 root root 793010 2009-09-11 18:26 messages ... [r...@localhost log]# ls -l mess* -rw---. 1 root root 793162 2009-09-11 18:27 messages ... [r...@localhost log]# ls -l mess* -rw---. 1 root root 793314 2009-09-11 18:27 messages again, as before, see the messages file growing then [r...@localhost log]# ps ax |grep fd0 1595 ?S 0:00 hald-addon-storage: no polling on /dev/fd0 because it is explicitly disabled 2230 ?S 0:00 devkit-disks-daemon: polling /dev/sr0 /dev/sr1 /dev/fd0 2547 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep fd0 [r...@localhost log]# I kill both of these processes and the messages file quits growing. BUT, upon rebooting again to 217.2.3 f11 again find the same ongoing fd0 messages I should have tried this ps test first thing, but I panicked.. so now still at a damaged f11 217.2.3 with i think still an Ok f11 191.xxx... Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? Mike, maybe my experience with booting from an external usb disk will help. I also wasn't able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so [either that or I am too dense to properly fiddle with the BIOS]. So, what I did was copy the vmlinuz, initrd.img somewhere onto my internal HDisks, specifically in my case on /dev/sdb1. Here is my grub.conf stanza for f10 booting off of the 2nd partition of my usbdisk, [label rootusb2] #24...68 - 29..78 title Fedora (2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686)usb2new TEST bootf10usb2 vga=795 root (hd1,0) #sdb1 kernel /bootf10usb2/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f quiet vga=795 initrd /bootf10usb2/initrd-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686.img I also did this recently with an f11 hdinstall into usb3. Detail: my usb disk is seen as sdc when booted up into my my main f10 on sda1 but when this bootf10usb2 boots it is seen as sda2, i.e, disk order is reordered tousb=sda, hd1=sdb, hd2=sdc. from blkid run from my mainf10on sda1: /dev/sdc2: LABEL=rootusb2 UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f TYPE=ext3 However, this does not affect the root (hd1,0) for sdb1 ie that retains nonreorderd syntax, even though when booted up f10usb2 sees sdb1 as sdc1. This solution is not perfect of course. I can't just take this external usb as is to another computer and have this f10usb2 boot up because the kernel, initrd can't be found. HTH Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Akmod-nvidia problem
Tim: I wasted ages TRYING to install, before then. Jack: you are referring here to hdinstall, which was thoroughly discussed in these 3 refs: - nov 2008 * F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this? From: Mike Cloaked and response by Tom Horsley .. Thanks for that, although that's a different technique than what I was trying to do. Tim, thanks much for your lengthy reply, especially the detailed steps you use for netinstall. I have zero experience with netinstall, so my prior comments to you probably of little use, if not muddying the waters even more. One thing is really unclear to me: if you cant (or couldn't )access the external usb at all, and that usb is where you have (or had) the dvdiso, it seems to me you can't test whether you have the /images/install.img in the right place or not, and similarly whether your equivalent of my /root/diso has correct leading / or not. OTOH, if you do get access to the usb then you _can_ expect the installer to see the usb first, internal hd second. If instead you move your dvdiso to your internal hd, and keep your usb powered off, then there will be no opportunity for the installer to reorder the disks. Just in case my experience using hdinstall is of use to you, here is specific detaill on location of my /images/install.img [r...@f10 ~]# cd diso [r...@f10 diso]# ls images isolinux [r...@f10 diso]# cd images [r...@f10 images]# ls install.img [r...@f10 images]# pwd /root/diso/images [r...@f10 images]# ls install.img this /root/diso as required, originally was also the location of my f11 dvdiso [I have since moved it out of my f10 system] Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Akmod-nvidia problem
Tim wrote: I wasted ages TRYING to install, before then. ... I seem to recall something about extracting install.img from the ISO, and putting it in the same directory as the main DVD ISO. That didn't work, neither did putting it into a images sub-directory. Tim, you are referring here to hdinstall, which was thoroughly discussed in these 3 refs: - nov 2008 * F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this? From: Mike Cloaked and response by Tom Horsley Bug 473351 - F10 HD install using the DVD iso file, initiated from grub, fails View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F10-HD-install---anyone-successfully-done-this--tp20740373p20741211.html --- You possibly made a mistake on where you placed the install.img. More likely is the need (starting in F10 and above) for a leading / on the directory holding the iso. I successfully did an F11 hdinstall following the refs. my hdinstall of f11: where the f11iso is in /root/diso of my f10 on sda1. I need to reference that sda1 as sdb1 because w usb anaconda reorders the disks: title Install Fedora 11 repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso reorder root (hdx,y) kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz noselinux repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso initrd /boot/f11/initrd.img #works! used to install f11 to rootusb3 specifically :/root/diso needs that leading / Because i was installing F11 to external usb, it had to be powered on, and then anaconda reordered my disks to place usb first, so /root/diso seen from my f10 on sda1, is seen in anaconda as sdb1 and that has to be specified in my f11 install stanza You don't need to use that repo= form, then instead in the anaconda gui pick /dev/sdb1 and insert /root/diso for the directory HTH Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?
stan responded; so, it is Sleeping Any way to wake it up? I had firefox off for 40min? no help, the process stayed in its sleeping state. Try invoking PackageKit manually by clicking on it. It should find the earlier version and ask what you want to do about it. When it seems appropriate, cancel out of the process to stop everything including the earlier process. You can run, as root, fg %8024 That *might* wake it up. If it doesn't, the alternative is to try killing the process, first with signal 15, kill -15 8024 then with signal 9 if that doesn't work. I think you will need to remove the lock manually if you kill the process, but I can't find the location of the lock. I first logged out of X and back in. it turned out to be easy to do; but i cant be certain what did it: ps ax |grep -i firef showed 8024 as before just before doing: [r...@f10 ~]# fg %8024 -bash: fg: %8024: no such job [r...@f10 ~]# kill -15 8024 -bash: kill: (8024) - No such process [r...@f10 ~]# kill -9 8024 -bash: kill: (8024) - No such process [r...@f10 ~]# ps ax |grep -i firef 19058 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep -i firef [r...@f10 ~]# we see 8024 now gone. So, one of those 3 commands, or their combination, resulted in killing the 8024 process. [r...@f10 ~]# yum-complete-transaction Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * fedora: fedora.mirror.facebook.net * rpmfusion-free: mirror.web-ster.com * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.web-ster.com * rpmfusion-nonfree: mirror.web-ster.com * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.web-ster.com * updates: mirror.stanford.edu ... No Presto metadata available for updates No unfinished transactions left. --- [r...@f10 ~]# package-cleanup --problems Setting up yum Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata Reading local RPM database Processing all local requires No problems found [r...@f10 ~]# It is good to have learned these commands. Appears my system is ok, including updated new kernel by...@f10 ~]$ uname -a Linux f10.pacbell.net 2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Jul 31 04:40:15 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux thanks again for the help Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?
Sam Varshavchik responded jackson byers writes: is it safe to : --quit firefox? Yes. --kill the 8024 python.yum process? No. Don't do that. Ok, i have quit firefox and restarted it, and i can now go to other sites but I still have that security updates process running, seemingly stalled And I still see intermittent jumps in firefox %cpu to 10-15% range. here is current [r...@f10 ~]# ps ax |grep -i firef 8024 ?SN 1:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py update-packages firefox;3.0.13-1.fc10;i386;updatesgnome-python2-extras;2.19.1-33.fc10;i386;updatesgnome-python2-gtkhtml2;2.19.1-33.fc10;i386;updatesgnome-python2-libegg;2.19.1-33.fc10;i386;updateskernel-devel;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;i686;updateskernel-firmware;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;noarch;updateskernel-headers;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;i386;updateskernel;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;i686;updatesxulrunner-devel;1.9.0.13-1.fc10;i386;updatesxulrunner;1.9.0.13-1.fc10;i386;updatesyelp;2.24.0-12.fc10;i386;updates 15138 ?S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.13/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.13/firefox 15165 ?Sl 2:55 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.13/firefox 15394 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep -i firef how can i tell if this update is finished or stalled or whatever? I have never before seen this seemingly stalled response to doing security updates. Sam's advice was to not kill the python-- yum process. What other options do I have? Thanks for help Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?
Stan responded You are trying to update firefox while it is running. While this is theoretically possible, it is also possible that firefox has locked a component that the update process needs to access. In other words, get out of firefox until the updates complete. If you leave firefox down and the process doesn't complete in a half hour, kill the update process. I use yum from command line. Would then do, [snip] Stan, thanks for explanation, and that detailed list of yum commands. I will do them, if i cant get that old process awakened. [r...@f10 ~]# yum info yum\* Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit Existing lock /var/run/yum.pid: another copy is running as pid 8024. Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit... The other application is: PackageKit Memory : 102 M RSS (122 MB VSZ) Started: Wed Aug 5 13:19:19 2009 - 22:18:17 ago State : Sleeping, pid: 8024 so, it is Sleeping Any way to wake it up? I had firefox off for 40min? no help, the process stayed in its sleeping state. thanks Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
security updates causing firefox trouble?
after checking ok on security updates in my f10, I am experiencing trouble with firefox; cant seem to go to other sites, even tho i can still get new gmail. I also see intermittent jumps in firefox %cpu to 10-15% range I dont recall getting updates finished screen. It looks like the yum update process is stalled: [r...@f10 ~]# ps ax |grep -i firef 3872 ?S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.12/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.12/firefox 3899 ?Sl29:56 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.12/firefox 8024 ?SN 1:05 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py update-packages firefox;3.0.13-1.fc10;i386;updatesgnome-python2-extras;2.19.1-33.fc10;i386;updatesgnome-python2-gtkhtml2;2.19.1-33.fc10;i386;updatesgnome-python2-libegg;2.19.1-33.fc10;i386;updateskernel-devel;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;i686;updateskernel-firmware;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;noarch;updateskernel-headers;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;i386;updateskernel;2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10;i686;updatesxulrunner-devel;1.9.0.13-1.fc10;i386;updatesxulrunner;1.9.0.13-1.fc10;i386;updatesyelp;2.24.0-12.fc10;i386;updates 12166 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep -i firef [r...@f10 ~]# is it safe to : --quit firefox? --kill the 8024 python.yum process? advice? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ranter or evangelist?
Tim wrote There's gnome-mplayer (there's probably a KDE variant), and smplayer, to try out, at least. I have used GUI programs like XMMS or Audacious to play streams, but sometimes you need to tweak the preferences, to increase cache sizing, to avoid skips. Totem is too much of a black box (not enough options to play with). Before seeing above response, I had just tried smplayer and it seems to be working well no skips smplayer -playlist x.pls and it comes up with a small window that has volume slider and mute just what i want.. I havent tried it yet to play audio dvd Seems like I can remove Totem Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ranter or evangelist?
Tim wrote: jackson byers wrote: any suggestions for command line playing of radio internet streams? mplayer http://example.com or, mplayer -playlist http://example.com [by...@f10 ~]$ mplayer http://www.abacast.com/media/pls/kcsm/kcsm-kcsm-sc32.pls MPlayer SVN-r28461-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 7) mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing http://www.abacast.com/media/pls/kcsm/kcsm-kcsm-sc32.pls. Resolving www.abacast.com for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.abacast.com Resolving www.abacast.com for AF_INET... Connecting to server www.abacast.com[198.145.250.78]: 80... Cache size set to 320 KBytes Playing http://sc1.abacast.com:8242. Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: sc1.abacast.com Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET... Connecting to server sc1.abacast.com[216.218.147.60]: 8242... Name : KCSM Jazz 91 * The Bay Area's Jazz Station * Stream 332 * Listener Supported * KCSM Jazz 91 * www.kcsm.org * Genre : Jazz Website: http://www.kcsm.org Public : yes Bitrate: 32kbit/s Cache size set to 320 KBytes Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) ICY Info: StreamTitle='';StreamUrl=''; Cache fill: 17.50% (57344 bytes) Audio only file format detected. == Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 915 bits! AUDIO: 16000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 32.0 kbit/6.25% (ratio: 4000-64000) Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == AO: [pulse] 16000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 20 bits! A:6236.9 ( 1:43:56.8) of -0.0 (unknown) 0.3% 45% MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: play_audio MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: enable_cache A:6236.9 ( 1:43:56.9) of -0.0 (unknown) 0.3% 45% Exiting... (Quit) [by...@f10 ~]$ that exiting was caused by my ctl-c so, mplayer working to play radio stream for me on f10: [r...@f10 ~]# uname -a Linux f10.pacbell.net 2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 19:03:24 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux albeit with text output much of which I can't make any sense of. using a downloaded kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls like this doesnt work: [by...@f10 Download]$ mplayer kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls MPlayer SVN-r28461-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 7) mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls. Exiting... (End of file) [by...@f10 Download]$ it just quits, no sound = but using a downloaded kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls like this does: [by...@f10 Download]$ mplayer -playlist kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls MPlayer SVN-r28461-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 7) mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing http://sc1.abacast.com:8240. Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: sc1.abacast.com Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET... Connecting to server sc1.abacast.com[216.218.147.60]: 8240... Name : KCSM Jazz 91 * The Bay Area's Jazz Station * Stream 264 * Listener Supported * Jazz 91 * www.kcsm.org Genre : Jazz Website: http://www.kcsm.org Public : yes Bitrate: 64kbit/s Cache size set to 320 KBytes Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) ICY Info: StreamTitle='';StreamUrl=''; Cache fill: 15.00% (49152 bytes) Audio only file format detected. == Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 999 bits! AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 64.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 8000-88200) Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == AO: [pulse] 22050Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 13 bits! A: 23.8 (23.7) of 0.0 (unknown) 0.4% 45% MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: play_audio MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: enable_cache A: 23.8 (23.8) of 0.0 (unknown) 0.4% 45% Exiting... (Quit) [by...@f10 Download]$ = so the cmdline operation of mplayer does work for me and no skips! [unlike totem which has a gui, but lots of skips] mplayer with a gui that worked, with its own volume control would be nice but for now I am happy thanks much to Tim, and Antonio Jack -- fedora-list
Re: [fedora-list] How do a fix a non working kernel installation ?
I downloaded the supergrub iso and installed it onto my usb drive. When I boot from it, it gives me the grub command line. Is that a sign I don't have the USB installation right or is that the tool that I am supposed to use to fix my non booting drive ? I dont know supergrub but my advice is to restore grub to your mbr of your internal hdisk presumably that is where you had it originally, not on mbr of usb. preferably with your usb turned off, from a live cd with grub on it, knoppix eg: grub root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) quit that should do it Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing F11 from local hard drive
Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote This works for me a) Prepare drive with what we need (i) cd /path/to/dvd mkdir /mnt/tmp mount -o loop /mnt/tmp foo-dvd.iso rsync -av /mnt/tmp/images . rsync -av /mnt/tmp/isolinux . (ii) Booting install from gru mkdir /boot/f11 cp isolinux/vmlinuz isolinux/initrd.imf /boot/f11 Edit /boot/grub/grub.conf to add new entry (adjust the root to be same as your other lines) title Fedora 11 Install root xxx kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz initrd /boot/f11/initrd.img don't you need repo= appended to kernel line? : kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz repo=hd:device:/path Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F11 install: cant install via NFS - ISO
Andrea wrote I'm trying to install F11 via a ISO image via NFS. When I run in text mode the error seems to be that anaconda cannot find 1images/install.img at the path I have entered. Now, that path is *inside* the ISO and according to the installation documentation I do not need to mount it. Reading on google I've found that F10 had some issues and one had to add the content of images to the directory containing the image. Tom Horsley had an email on this list in late 2008 giving explicit instructions on how to install f10 from an iso (i think not using NFS ) including exact directions for getting the images out of iso and into the correct place for anaconda to use them. I haven't tried this yet, but plan to use it to install f11. hth Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10 install, still no X
jackson byers wrote: may 20-may21 still cant get X going, despite several attempts at reinstalling using purchased f10 dvd. does sound like you have hardware problems. have you tried f10 live cd? if it works, that is, you boot to a desktop and all is well, install it to hard drive and run your updates. i do suggest that before you run updates, install only yumex and yum-utilities first. them go thru what was loaded from cd and remove what you do not want on your system. I had problems with an f10 install due to video card and was able to use live cd and get a now working system. hardware problem? maybe so but I did install centos5.3 on this same cptr, no trouble at all. So if hardware, something conflicting with f10 not centos. the video card seems to be recognized yes, I have tried f10livecd and it does come up in desktop. But, trying the livecd install I have very similar failure as I did from dvd. fwiw here is mga lines from firstboot.X from my dvd failure [r...@localhost tmp]# grep -i mga firstbootX.log (--) PCI:*(0...@1:0:0) Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP rev 1, Mem @ 0xf60/0, 0xf500/0, 0xf480/0, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (==) Matched mga for the autoconfigured driver New driver is mga Identifier Builtin Default mga Device 0 Driver mga Identifier Builtin Default mga Screen 0 Device Builtin Default mga Device 0 Screen Builtin Default mga Screen 0 (**) |--Screen Builtin Default mga Screen 0 (0) (**) | |--Device Builtin Default mga Device 0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default mga Screen 0. (II) LoadModule: mga (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//mga_drv.so (II) Module mga: vendor=X.Org Foundation (II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, mgag200 SE A PCI, mgag200 SE B PCI, mgag200 Maxim, mgag200 Winbond, mgag400, mgag550 (--) MGA(0): Chipset: mgag550 (II) MGA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section Builtin Default mga Screen 0 for depth/fbbpp 24/32 (==) MGA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) MGA(0): Using AGP 1x mode (==) MGA(0): Using HW cursor (==) MGA(0): Using XAA acceleration many more lines, lots of Modeline (II) MGA(0): [drm] bpp: 32 depth: 24 (II) MGA(0): [drm] Sarea 2200+664: 2864 (II) [drm] loaded kernel module for mga driver. (II) MGA(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. (II) MGA(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xf600 (II) MGA(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) MGA(0): X context handle = 0x1 (II) MGA(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (II) MGA(0): [dri] visual configs initialized (II) MGA(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1600,2399) (II) MGA(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1600 x 1199 (II) MGA(0): Reserved back buffer at offset 0xea6000 (II) MGA(0): Reserved depth buffer at offset 0x15f9000 (II) MGA(0): Reserved 2768 kb for textures at offset 0x1d4c000 (II) MGA(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) (==) MGA(0): Backing store disabled (==) MGA(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) MGA(0): DPMS enabled (II) MGA(0): Using overlay video (II) MGA(0): [DRI] installation complete (II) MGA(0): [drm] Mapped 128 DMA buffers (II) MGA(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 16 (II) MGA(0): Direct rendering enabled (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/mga_dri.so (II) MGA(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel (II) MGA(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xfaa65000 at 0xb7fe (II) MGA(0): [drm] Closed DRM master. [r...@localhost tmp]# thanks for response Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f10 boot: linux options
in an older, now closed thread Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot Craig responded at this point, I would probably... boot the Install DVD, put the kernel argument into the boot command... linux install scsi_mod.scan=sync and then re-install Fedora 10... two questions: 1) is it really as above linux install scsi_mod.scan=sync or should it be linux scsi_mod.scan=sync fedora install docs say: To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt If you specify more than one option, separate each of the options by a single space. For example: linux option1 option2 option3 2) my f10 dvd seems to have its boot: command already filled in with vmlinuz0 initrd0 something close to that is what i see after hitting TAB. Is the linux option supposed to be entered after that vmlinuz0 initrd0 ? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 104
an f10 install, minimum defaults from purchased dvd. Only sda1 is formatted by installer; /boot not a separate partition. Grub initially installed into 1st sector of sda1, left mbr alone. Later Grub also installed into mbr of sda. Currently booting into level 3, experiencing trouble with X-server In a prior thread, Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot, David wrote: Many people on this list will have much greater expertise than I to solve your X problem. My *non-expert* suggestions are that you could: 1) yum update xorg-x11-drv-mga no help, nothing to update 5) Look at the xorg.conf of your previous Fedora install for ideas, if it is working ok on the same hardware. yes, it is. 6) Try to create your own xorg.conf based on it and/or your tmp ones. Your xorg.log seems to be using the correct driver but reports No monitor specified, you could try adding a Monitor block to your xorg.conf, particularly if you have one that works for your previous Fedora. I've had to do similar in the past. Adding just the Monitor section seemed to work, at least initially: --start of xorg.conf-- # Xorg configuration created by pyxf86config Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105+inet Option XkbLayout us EndSection ## monitor section from fc5 xorg.conf Section Monitor ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameNEC MultiSync LCD1830 DisplaySize 360290 HorizSync24.0 - 82.0 VertRefresh 55.0 - 85.0 Option dpms EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver mga EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection --end of xorg.conf- Now seems caught in some sort of mix of errors from X server, Window manager, startx: [r...@localhost ~]# system-config-display -v Read configuration file /etc/xorg.conf Trying with card: u'Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP' Writing temporary config file to /tmp/tmpNdA6Fexorg.config Trying to start X server Waiting for X server to start...log located in /var/log/Xorg.setup.log 1...2...3...4...5X server started successfully. Backing up /etc/xorg.conf to /etc/xorg.conf.backup Writing configuration to /etc/xorg.conf Removing old /etc/X11/X Creating /etc/X11/X symlink Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on display ':17.0'. [r...@localhost ~]# it says X server started successfully but then Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on display ':17.0'. With that error, it may be silly to try startx, but i did anyway: ]# cat startxlog [r...@localhost ~]# startx xauth: creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.3606 xauth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority xauth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keygiving up. xinit: Interrupted system call (errno 4): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. [r...@localhost ~]# rm .X0-lock then another startx # cat startxlog2 [r...@localhost ~]# startx xauth: creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.3633 _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running xinit: Server error. [r...@localhost ~]# [r...@bootp root]# ls -l X* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43222 May 8 09:28 Xorg.0.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 743 May 10 09:26 Xorg.setup.log.may10 why no current(may 10) Xorg log? [r...@bootp root]# cat Xorg.setup.log.may10 X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5 i686 Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:37:54 EDT 2009 i686 Build Date: 10 March 2009 07:20:48PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.5.3-15.fc10 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??)
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
David responded with a list of things to try on my f10 X problems ... 7) Read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Write_a_Good_Subject_Line and perhaps start a new thread, because currently the subject line of this long thread is not describing your current issue David, thanks for the suggestions, any further email from me on my f10 X problems will be in a new thread. thanks again to both Craig and David for all previous help on this thread. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
jbyers: Any ideas on the failing X server? Craig: not really but /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.setup.log should be able to tell you/us what the problem is. If you do post the Xorg.0.log to the list, you might want to also include output of 'lspci -v' too Craig -- jbyers: Ok, Xorg.0.log is huge, I will try to cut out large number of modelines [r...@bootp log]# ls -l X* -rw-rw-r-- 1 root byers 43222 May 7 07:54 Xorg.0.log -rw-rw-r-- 1 root byers 361 May 7 07:39 Xorg.0.log.old -rw-r--r-- 1 root root743 May 7 12:00 Xorg.setup.log first: [r...@bootp log]# less Xorg.setup.log Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 17 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X17-lock and start again. Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i6 86 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:37:54 EDT 2009 i686 Build Date: 10 March 2009 07:20:48PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.5.3-15.fc10 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (++) Log file: /dev/null, Time: Thu May 7 11:57:39 2009 (++) Using config file: /tmp/tmpfnALSkxorg.config Xorg.setup.log (END) that /tmp/tmpfnALSkxorg.config file no longer exists. I believe i removed /tmp/.X17-lock and tried again -rw-r--r-- 1 root root596 May 7 10:52 tmp5zEjJzxorg.config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root596 May 7 11:40 tmpdHrbUuxorg.config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root596 May 7 10:50 tmphwdZ4Gxorg.config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root596 May 7 12:00 tmpq7w3ikxorg.config the last one looks very crude: [r...@bootp tmp]# less tmpq7w3ikxorg.config # Xorg configuration created by pyxf86config Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105+inet Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver mga EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection here is lspci [r...@bootp ~]# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE Host-to-AGP Bridge (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 01) 02:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80) 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5702X Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02) 02:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02) 02:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) 02:0c.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 0a) [r...@bootp ~]# from lspci -v for the matrox: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Matrox Graphics, Inc. Millennium G550 Dual Head DDR 32Mb Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 201 Memory at f600 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] Memory at f500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Memory at f480 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M] Expansion ROM at f5fe [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [f0] AGP version 2.0 is AGP video card a problem? Here is Xorg.0.log heavily edited to reduce size I am reluctant to post this huge file as is X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5 i686 Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Tue Nov 18
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
David responded: My (differing) interpretation of the above is that he is reporting success at reaching text login in f10. But like much of what he writes, it is hard to be sure what he is actually saying. Jack I am on of many contributors to this thread who thinks that it would be a lot easier for us to help you if you put more time/effort into how you communicate here. If you still have a problem, spend some time and effort writing your next post with the following in mind: ... jbyers: David, I am more than little embarrassed by your longish list of my sloppy responses. --I think I have stopped sending in html --I am trying to respond in the block style, first clearly identifying who wrote any msg i am quoting and then identifying my reply with jbyers: at the start of each block I am replying to. My reading of the guidelines i think says that is ok. I want to thank you for taking the time to write your criticism of my replies. If you continue to find them problematic, please say so. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
A. let it boot up until the screen disappears... press ControlAltF2 or B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line and press the letter 'e'. Add a space and put in the number 3 to tell it to boot to runlevel 3 --- jbyers: A. did not work, all it does is recover a blinking white dash, no response to keyboard B. I got partway thru this, i think including adding 3, then I did something wrong left with . grub I wasnt clear at this point put in boot got many error msgs I finally went back to my fc5 and put a space and a 3 at end of kernel line in the f10 grub.conf. This got me to login I will try yum update mkinitrd yum update later today; I need my fc5 right now. well, it won't do you any good since you are not getting past grub at this point, I would probably... boot the Install DVD, put the kernel argument into the boot command... linux install scsi_mod.scan=sync Making /dev/sda1 about 200 megabytes for just /boot and then /dev/sda4 for / At least if you boot the DVD with the scsi_mod.scan=sync kernel parameter, when it installs the kernel and builds your initrd, it will build it with that parameter already. Craig --- jbyers: I am not at all sure I did B. procedure correctly, so my not getting past grub could have been due to my error? And I do get to level 3 login using my modified f10 grub.conf I will try at least f10 reinstall with linux install scsi_mod.scan=sync --won't get to it until noon pst. Question on your sda1 for /boot, sda4 for / : My experience using disk druid in the install is weak. I have used gparted from a systemrescuecd and this seems pretty easy to use. So from gparted i would 1)format current sda1 first? or not necessary? 2)Shrink sda1 from its current 21gb down to 200mb. 3)new partition sda4, to start at end of new sda1 and to end at old sda1end this process will leave present size, location of sda2,sda3 untouched? so in order on disk, sda1,sda4,sda2,sda3 ? Jack --- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
David: My (differing) interpretation of the above is that he is reporting success at reaching text login in f10. But like much of what he writes, it is hard to be sure what he is actually saying. Craig: it doesn't make sense that he can't boot from his F10 installation directly but chainload to his FC5 installation which gives him a boot menu that boots his F10 installation. That almost begs to get the full copies of both /boot/grub/grub.conf and compare them. == jbyers: sorry i wasnt clearer: 1) yes, I can get a root login to level 3 to do this I had to boot back into fc5 (via the chainloader stanza in the f10 grub.conf) mount the f10 partition, and use emacs to put in 3 end of kernel line in f10 grub.conf. Then on rebooting, i get to f10 level 3 console login. 2) so now that i can get that root login, what can i do with it? This f10 install was done using the minimum default choices so i dont even know what text editors available. 3)let me try to correct above Craig: it doesn't make sense that he can't boot from his F10 installation directly jbyers: i can to level 3, see 1) Craig: but chainload to his FC5 installation jbyers: this is correct Craig: which gives him a boot menu that boots his F10 installation. jbyers: wrong, I am no longer using fc5 to boot into f10, that was some time ago and attempts there often hit Error2 Bad file or directory which error I have never seen since using f10 in control of grub. That Error2 I also found googling a similar case of Centos,f9 playing roles of my fc5,f10. There the conclusion was that the older grub in centos, somehow couldnt mount f9... I concluded that if Centos,f9 couldnt play ball then I was wasting my time trying fc5,f10 so, to repeat, I only use fc5 to enable editing f10 grub.conf if I cant do the editing within f10. thanks much, David and Craig for ongoing response Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
Craig responded: boot F10 in runlevel 3 login as root yum update mkinitrd yum update yum install system-config-display system-config-display --reconfig If you do all that, can run 'startx' and be happy, I suppose you are good. Craig jbyers: all went ok except last, system-config-display --reconfig which fails with Couldn't start X server on card 0 Error, failed to start X server. tried it twice once still using old kernel once using new kernel same result on both the stanza does work now without scsimodescan ie here is the new stanza, with new kernel, as modified by me to remove scsimodscan title Fedora (2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686) noscsimodescn root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=449a78aa- d4d5-4e91-bf9c-5833d7218c8f 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686.img this again allows booting to level 3 so Craig's update method has cured that problem. I also did useradd byers passwd byers and yum install emacs so at least i have a text editor i understand. Any ideas on the failing X server? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
jbyers: end of quote re scsi_mod.scan=sync Important Note: mkinitrd-6.0.71-3.fc10 fixes the issue above!! Please update your system after fixing manually, or better after booting using the kernel argument scsi_mod.scan=sync !!! --- Craig: If you read Bill Nottingham's comment (# 19), the solution seems far easier.. jbyers: #19 in the bugreport Bug 473305 - Booting from SCSI/RAID device fails Comment #19 From Bill Nottingham 2008-12-19 12:09:08 EDT Install the update mkinitrd and remake your initrd - Craig: You would have to get a boot up and into a virtual console. Either... A. let it boot up until the screen disappears... press ControlAltF2 or B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line and press the letter 'e'. Add a space and put in the number 3 to tell it to boot to runlevel 3 After startup either way... login as root and as root, run... yum update mkinitrd yum update will update all installed pkgs This would take some time to install all of the updates. jbyers: doing above means I dont have to run mkinitrd to make new initrd? Because the yum update will update the initrd also? Craig: This still won't solve your X problems. That would probably need you to switch to the console again as above and again, login as root init 3 yum install system-config-display system-config-display --reconfig and see if you can get a working X display You can test it by typing 'startx' Once you get X running, you can type 'init 5' or just reboot jbyers: I am familiar with startx, I run that way in my fc5 Are you telling me that my f10 boot is actually finishing? and only then failing on X-server? thanks for response Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
Sam Sharpe responded 2009/5/5 jackson byers byers...@gmail.com: jbyers: html? my apologies, i had no idea. I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. in my gmail setting Outgoing message encoding: Use default text encoding for outgoing messages selected Use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding for outgoing messages nothing here explicitly HTML i will try the utf-8 That's interesting - I didn't actually see how you are sending HTML. My Gmail is set to default text encoding (not UTF-8) and I seem to be sending messages in text: Subject: Re: what is Document Viewer? From: Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your messages are sending in both HTML and text, so technically the receiver can decide which one to view based on their capabilities or preferences (but you're still wasting other people's bandwidth - which is typically what they are objecting to). I had no idea how you set Gmail to do that, but having had a look around, I found this post: http://personalweb.about.com/b/2005/04/04/gmail-lets-you-send-html-email.htm I've never noticed the Rich formatting link that appears above my compose box before, but I think that's what you are using - try hitting the Plain text link you should have and see if that sticks as a preference (as I can't see anywhere to force it). -- Sam --- jbyers: how could you see that I was sending in both HTML and text? I dont see a Content-Type line on my gmail sends is there some configure step i am missing? I have left utf selected but also did switch out of the rtf into text Is this email being received as only text? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
Craig responded: Either... A. let it boot up until the screen disappears... press ControlAltF2 or B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line and press the letter 'e'. Add a space and put in the number 3 to tell it to boot to runlevel 3 --- jbyers: A. did not work, all it does is recover a blinking white dash, no response to keyboard B. I got partway thru this, i think including adding 3, then I did something wrong left with grub I wasnt clear at this point put in boot got many error msgs I finally went back to my fc5 and put a space and a 3 at end of kernel line in the f10 grub.conf. This got me to login I will try yum update mkinitrd yum update later today; I need my fc5 right now. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
jbyers: I explicitly said they are scsi disks in one of my responses and yes they are 36gb Again, does using scsi disks mean i have special requirements? craig responded you probably did - reading through your e-mails is very tough because you continue to use HTML format which really makes it hard to decipher everything. I don't know that scsi would have any special requirements but I was wondering what the differences would be from Fedora 5 and Fedora 10 and I suppose that you could compare /etc/modprobe.conf from the 2 installations. It sort of sounds like there is a problem with your initrd but I can't tell. - jbyers: html? my apologies, i had no idea. I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. in my gmail setting Outgoing message encoding: Use default text encoding for outgoing messages selected Use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding for outgoing messages nothing here explicitly HTML i will try the utf-8 I dont know how to decipher initrd problems. I know how to unpack an initrd.img and examine init and make minor changes and repack. I have used mkinitrd on my fc5 to add in usb_storage I will look into comparing modprobe.conf f10 vs fc5, but i am really trying to divorce the f10 install from fc5, and fc5 modprobe syntax,etc might be wrong for f10? -- craig: At this point, having rhgb and quiet removed from grub boot options should give you a fair amount of information at startup and I probably wouldn't be using scsi_mod.scan=sync at this point because that seems to be more of a tuning thing but I don't know what it actually would do. jbyers: well, my experience was that using scsi_mod.scan=sync was necessary to get me beyond cant find /dev/root errors. It is easy enough to retry without scsi_mod.scan=sync in combination with rhgb and quiet removed, so will do that next. However, f10 commonproblems( or release notes) seemed pretty clear that it was necessary. Evidently fixed in mkinitrd-6.0.71-3.fc10, but my f10dvd version is i think mkinitrd-6.0.71.fc10. craig: you could always append 'acpi=off' as a kernel parameter but that is a rather drastic measure, you didn't seem to need it in order to install F10 so I would want to look at the debugging info on the startup screen for more information at this point. jbyers: yes, altho i think the screen went blank on me, after getting to .. Xserver so it is difficult to see much. Will try acpi-off also thanks for your continuing response Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
David wrote Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS and resumed by ctrlQ jbyers: thanks David, that helps me look at all msgs up to some point shy of the failure point which is something like Waiting for X-server... I cant catch final part of that line, the screen goes blank immmediately after it shows up. additional info: 1)commenting out hiddenmenu in grub.conf --does not present the choices to me, it just grabs first one --even worse, it prevents ESC from showing the choices So now I am back to hiddenmenunobegining # and ESC works 2)acpi=off looks no different, gets to Waiting for X-server... then screen blanks 3)retesting taking scsi_mod.scan=sync out of the kernel line still with rhgb quiet removed goes back to what I previously observed: mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot no such file or directory that msg does point to the initrd because the init script therein is trying do that mount but now that scsi_mod.scan=sync appended to kernel line gets past that error, I dont see further evidence of initrd error. so scsi_mod.scan=sync is required. FWIW at the end I copy the section from f10releasenotes on this. 4)I remain stuck at Waiting for X-server.. It is not as if X is just failing to come up with normal boot otherwise; this prevents the boot from finishing Jack here is the quote ==from f10 commonproblems or f10 release notes New Fedora 10 installs do not boot, boot delays for 10 seconds or stabilization cannot be detected link to this item - Bugzilla: #473305 and Bugzilla: #470628 On systems that use specific SCSI hardware (can include SATA controllers), a fresh install could complete, but on reboot it would hang and either display stabilization cannot be detected, delay for 10 seconds or not continue to boot at all, with sg or other devices being listed. The problem is that mkinitrd was edited to enhance boot times. This introduced an IF clause, that, under specific circumstances, causes scsi_wait_scan not to be loaded and also prevents 'emit stablized --hash --interval 250 /proc/scsi/scsi'from being called, and hence the above mentioned issues occur. In order to fix this issue, a temporary option can be used, by editing the kernel argument from within grub and appending scsi_mod.scan=sync. This will allow the boot to proceed in most circumstances, although it might take a few seconds to proceed. By using the mentioned kernel argument anaconda freeze-ups and crashes on some systems are also prevented, during the installation process. A better fix is to rebuild the initrd that the kernel requires in order to boot. mkinitrd --with=scsi_wait_scan (detailed instructions below). Beginners please follow the steps below: # To fix this issue, boot from live-media. #Become root on the live-system (note the dash): su - # Enable LVM, if you are using LVM: vgchange -ay # Create a mount point: mkdir /mnt/sysimage # Mount your installed system (VGhere = Your VolumeGroup; # LVname = Name of Logical Volume): mount -t ext3 /dev/VGhere/LVname /mnt/sysimage # Note: Experienced users also mount your other mount points, # such as /var into the chroot. # If required mount the /boot partition into the chroot # (where sdxx is the /boot partition): mount -t ext3 /dev/sdxx /mnt/sysimage/boot # Mount the required special kernel directories into the chroot environment: mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/sysimage/dev mount --bind /proc /mnt/sysimage/proc mount --bind /sys /mnt/sysimage/sys # Change into the directory root of your installed system: chroot /mnt/sysimage # Rename your old initrd (note your initrd version might be different, # modify as required) mv initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img.old # Create your new initrd image # Note: The third argument after mkinitrd is the kernel version) mkinitrd --with=scsi_wait_scan initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img 2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64 # Exit the chroot environment and reboot: exit reboot Now pray! Please note the lines beginning with a # are comments! Some command lines are separated by a carriage return. Important Note: mkinitrd-6.0.71-3.fc10 fixes the issue above!! Please update your system after fixing manually, or better after booting using the kernel argument scsi_mod.scan=sync !!! Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
Craig responded: boot the F10 DVD - choose 'Rescue mode' and do not install again Accept the default options and it should locate the Fedora 10 installation automatically and leave you at a command prompt Type... chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/sda exit exit remove the DVD and it should boot into F10 If not, please post the contents of /boot/grub/grub.conf Craig -- jbyers did above, it found the install, but the response was exactly or nearly so as my last attempt: --does not give the /dev/root error instead flashes a full screen of boot msgs which quickly disappear then the screen remains blank, have to hit power. --it is possible still finallly hittting that /dev/root error but screen goes blank so fast I cant tell. So, your procedure seems to do no more than my last one. here is the grub.con # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda1 # initrd /boot/initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=0 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=449a78aa-d4d5-4 e91-bf9c-5833d7218c8f rhgb quiet scsi_mod.scan=sync initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img this is the grub.conf produced by my install, but previously modified by me to append scsi_mod.scan=sync the rescue chroot did show device.map (hd0) /dev/sda and said to repair it if necessary. I didnt do anything, I could add (hd1) /dev/sdb, but i thot it was not necessary for booting off of sda. One other thing i dont think i have mentioned before: the boot attempt first starts with something like acpi invalid[?] pblk doesnt stay on the screen long. I think i have seen this on every attempt. any other ideas? maybe retry taking out rhgb quiet? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
Craig responded: you didn't post the whole grub.conf so it's not possible to compare it to the entry for FC5 Obviously we now know you have 2 hard disks so it probably would be helpful to show output of grub.conf fdisk -l /dev/sda fdisk -l /dev/sdb yes, if you remove 'rhgb quiet' entries from grub, you would see more debugging information on screen but you can do that temporarily at boot time by 'editing' the grub entries at boot time or I think pressing the 'ESC' key while starting up. Craig -- jbyers: Craig, thanks for response. I think we are miscommunicating on some points. I did post the whole grub.conf, this is from f10 install, not my fc5. I explained I had two disks, most carefully after Frank asked me to more clearly explain: f10 on sda1, fc5 on sdb6. but I went on to say I was now trying to divorce my f10 install from anything to do with fc5, so using knoppixcd I did grub root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) so I am no longer using the fc5 grub.conf to boot f10: from my experience that is more prone to Error2 Bad file or directory which i no longer see using f10 grub.conf. If you think it would be useful anyway I will show it here along w fdisk. from fc5 grub.conf stanza for fc5, stanza for f10 title fc5copy (2.6.17-1.2174_FC5) sdb6 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 ro root=/dev/sdb6 ## initrd-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5.img initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5.devsdb6.img title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686) dvd scsi_mod.scan=sync root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=449a78aa-d4d5-4e91- bf9c-5833d7218c8f rhgb quiet scsi_mod.scan=sync initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img [r...@bootp ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1267621494938+ 83 Linux /dev/sda226773163 3911827+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda33164446210434217+ 83 Linux [r...@bootp ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 14 268 2048287+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb3 269 281 104422+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb4 282446233583882+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdb5 2821301 8193118+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb613022321 8193118+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb72322446217197551 83 Linux [r...@bootp ~]# I will experiment with editing grub entries at boot time, thanks for suggestion. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
newest info: f10 appears to quit when starting X server, see below I had modified f10 grub.conf to have 3 stanzas 1 f10 orig rhgb quiet 2 f10 norhgbquiet 3 fc5 chainloader But, had to hit esc while booting to see my 3 stanzas ie I dont get presented with this list unless i hit esc so there is more here I dont understand from f10 grub.conf #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=0 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=449a78aa-d4d5-4e 91-bf9c-5833d7218c8f rhgb quiet scsi_mod.scan=sync initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686) norhgbquiet root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=449a78aa-d4d5-4e 91-bf9c-5833d7218c8f scsi_mod.scan=sync initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img title fc5copy hd1,5 chainloader root (hd1,5) chainloader +1 -- end f10 grub.conf this last enables me to boot back into fc5 without using knoppix cd but I can see this list only using esc selecting the norhgbquiet stanza gives me a long list of boot msgs, lasting longer than seen before and it appears to quit starting X server screen then goes blank does this help narrow down what is wrong? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
selecting the norhgbquiet stanza gives me a long list of boot msgs, lasting longer than seen before and it appears to quit starting X server screen then goes blank does this help narrow down what is wrong? Jack -- Craig responded not really... Comment the line that says hiddenmenu (add # in front) and you will see the choices thank you, idid not know that norhgbquiet is not a valid option...simply remove the entire thing (the words no, rhgb and quiet) I did not use norhgbquiet as an option, just as a phrase in title I removed all of rhgb quiet for this stanza Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1267621494938+ 83 Linux which makes /dev/sda1 way larger than just a /boot volume so I'm sort of confused what you actually have there. sda1 is the entire f10 / , no separate /boot partition, is that a problem? I trying to not use LVM If after booting Fedora 5, you do something like this as root... mkdir /mnt/sda1 mkdir /mnt/sda3 mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3 I'd be interested to know what you got as a result of these commands... ls -l /mnt/sda1 ls -l /mnt/sda3 sda3 is being used for another ancient rh8 linux for a legacy app and should be playing no role in my problems here booted into fc5 I have sda1 mounted on /f10liv r...@bootp ~]# mount /dev/sdb6 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/sda1 on /f10liv type ext3 (rw) ... [r...@bootp ~]# ls -l /f10liv total 116 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 05:17 bin drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 May 3 05:08 boot drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:58 dev drwxr-xr-x 115 root root 12288 May 4 07:22 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 home drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 12288 May 3 05:17 lib drwx-- 2 root root 16384 May 3 04:56 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 mnt drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 opt drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:56 proc drwxr-x--- 5 root root 4096 May 3 08:25 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 May 3 05:17 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:58 selinux drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 srv drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:56 sys drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 May 4 07:23 tmp drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 May 3 05:03 usr drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 May 3 05:19 var [r...@bootp ~]# and I'm gathering that you must be using 36 GB SCSI disks because on a Fedora 5 boot, if these were not scsi disks, they would likely be /dev/hda|/dev/hdb I explicitly said they are scsi disks in one of my responses and yes they are 36gb Again, does using scsi disks mean i have special requirements? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f10dvd installs but won't boot
I am out of ideas, using a purchased osdisc fedora 10 dvd reinstalled f10dvd media ck said ok this time using minimum options and this time accepting default of mbr sda install said successful but on reboot get exactly same errors as seen previously when f10 grub into sda1 notmbr , (then was using fc5 grub in mbr sda) this time there should have been no connection at all to my fc5 on sdb6 but get same boot error: cant access resume device (/dev/sdb2) mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot no such file or directory so my hopes that my troubles were my old fc5 grub version .97-5 was confusing f10 hence preventing f10 booting, seem not to be the issue. I did find one suggestion on fedora common problems or? to edit the kernel argument and append scsi_mod.scan=sync so i use knoppixcd to get my fc5 back: in grub root(hd1,5) setup(hd0) which is where i am now for this email, and mount the new installed f10 and edit its grub.conf as above then went back to knoppixcd root(0,1) setup(0) to get back to f10 knoppixcd out then rebooted again this time the f10dvdinst boot attempt does _not_ give me that dev/root one line error but instead a whole screen of boot msgs but then screen quickly goes completely blank, no response have to hit power button this last response says appending scsi_mod.scan=sync had some effect but I have no idea what else to try. Are there other scsi issues I should be aware of re f10? My sda, sdb are both scsi disks help, please I really would like to dump fc5, but i need a booting f10 Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
frank cox wrote jackson byers wrote: reinstalled f10dvd media ck said ok Any chance you could re-post your question using complete words and sentences, and a complete description of what you have done and what you expect to see, and what you actually see? I read your message four times and I still have no idea what you're actually doing. Are you trying to install F10 on a machine that already has F5 installed on it, without overwriting the F5 installation? Describe your current setup, what you want to do, and what you have tried. Include complete error messages (if any). --- jbyers: sorry I wasn't clearer; I was trying to not be so verbose Yes, I am trying to install F10 onto sda1 on a machine that already has Fc5 installed on it on sdb6 , without overwriting the Fc5 installation. Every install attempt of f10, I use custom partitioning, and only format sda1 as ext3. My fc5 remains available. I previously had a thread where I was trying to use a fedoraliveinstall cd to install, and never could get it to boot, even tho the install said it was successful. I won't repeat everything I tried with the liveinstall cd, because my experiences then and now are much the same, installs, but no boot. I am trying the same thing now with a f10dvd. 1)I first tried to keep the fc5 in control of the mbr on sda and hence using fc5 grub.conf to have a stanza for f10 copied directly from the f10 install grub.conf This gives me :Error 2 bad file or directory. If I instead use a stanza for f10 root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 then I get error msgs: cant access resume device (sda/sdb2) mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot no such file or directory 2) I next tried allowing the f10 install on sda1 have grub install into mbr of sda, thus replacing the fc5 grub into mbr of sda5. This does not give me Error2 as in 1) above but instead the same errors as in chainloader +1 in 1) above: cant access resume device (sda/sdb2) mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot no such file or directory 2a)appending scsi_mod.scan=sync to the kernel line did not give me those last 2 msgs, but instead flashed an entire screen of boot msgs, which then disappeared, screen went blank I hope this makes it clearer. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot
jbyers reply 2) I next tried allowing the f10 install on sda1 have grub install into mbr of sda, thus replacing the fc5 grub into mbr of sda5. typo should be mbr of sda sda5 doesnt even exist Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10livecd installs but wont boot, Error 2
jackson byers wrote I finally got the f10liveinstallcd to install, to sda1 it evidently went thru w no errors --unchkd sda,sdb initially then went to custom install --chose not mbr, instead firstsector of sda1 --the grub.conf uses UUID for its root= I copied the grub.conf stanza to my fc5 grub.conf, it is in control title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=4e1021d9-e637-4 d03-97cb-fdd0d4b4cbee rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img it all looks normal to me, altho use of UUID instead of /dev/sda1 i did not expect But, on attempting to boot it lists the above kernel line, followed by Error 2: Bad file or directory type === new data: get different error response if i do either: a) in my fc5 grub.conf a stanza with root(hd0,0) chainloader +1 or, b) cp the f10 kernel, initrd to my fc5 /boot and in my fc5 grub.conf a stanza with root(hd1,5) # sdb6, my fc5 install kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=4e1021d9-e637-4d0 3-97cb-fdd0d4b4cbee rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img Then, the error message from either a) or b) after getting past the kernel line and the initrd line and after getting to the bluesun graphic screen, then screen goes back to console and: Unable to access resume device mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: no such file or directory can anyone interpret for me either/both: the errror 2 message or this new one? thanks for advice Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10livecd installs but wont boot, Error 2
mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: no such file or directory another piece of info: it wasnt really clear what the system found missing was it /dev/root or /sysroot? with the f10liveinstall mounted on /f10liv as seen in my fc5: [r...@bootp dev]# pwd /f10liv/dev [r...@bootp dev]# ls fdfuse ptmx random stdin tty zero full null pts stderr stdout urandom [r...@bootp dev]# not much in here, most particularly no dev /sysroot exists inside the initrd and there is another /dev in there as well but it also has no file root [r...@bootp dev]# pwd /f10liv/root/clean/dev [r...@bootp dev]# [r...@bootp dev]# ls console ptmx ram1tty0 tty11 tty3 tty6 tty9 ttyS2 mapper ram systty tty1 tty12 tty4 tty7 ttyS0 ttyS3 null ram0 tty tty10 tty2 tty5 tty8 ttyS1 zero so the f10liveinstall seems deficient, no /dev/root unless there is yet another dev buried somewhere any comments? where else to look for /dev/root? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10livecd installs but wont boot, Error 2
[r...@bootp dev]# pwd /f10liv/dev [r...@bootp dev]# ls fdfuse ptmx random stdin tty zero full null pts stderr stdout urandom [r...@bootp dev]# not much in here, most particularly no dev arrgh typo meant no root Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f10livecd installs but wont boot, Error 2
I finally got the f10liveinstallcd to install, to sda1 it evidently went thru w no errors --unchkd sda,sdb initially then went to custom install --chose not mbr, instead firstsector of sda1 --the grub.conf uses UUID for its root= I copied the grub.conf stanza to my fc5 grub.conf, it is in control title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=4e1021d9-e637-4 d03-97cb-fdd0d4b4cbee rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img it all looks normal to me, altho use of UUID instead of /dev/sda1 i did not expect But, on attempting to boot it lists the above kernel line, followed by Error 2: Bad file or directory type I have seen some google msgs w this response but no help to me I ran across one google msg re liveinstall cd saying it installed fine, but locked up on booting-- no further detail also another msg saying wouldnt boot if using scsi disks ( I am) but again no detail is the liveinstallcd known to have problems booting? any advice? try f10dvd instead? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD
David's experience also was that there was no custom option. I purchased my cd from OSDisc.com Fedora 10 KDE Edition - install/Live CD is this some outdated version? or a deficient version? not officially supported? How is one to know? Jack you simply clicked next on the partitioning screen with the drop down box that said replace my existing linux install instead of clicking said drop down box and choosing custom. user error all the way. afaik the live cd's have had custom partitioning since at least f9 if not before then! phil --- jbyers: I don't doubt that I somehow got into user error all the way. But I was quite conscious that I did not want replace my existing linux install and would certainly not have clicked it. If you are correct, then if i somehow got into custom then I may well have still managed to botch it. I still find it curious however that David also thought there was no obvious custom leading me to think there could be differences on various versions of the liveinstallcd. Another question: this thread Q about installing F10 from Live DVD implies it is a DVD not a CD. Do both versions exist? I have a CD not a DVD And one final question: Does the custom option include choice of not installing grub to mbr? Jack Does the custom include ability to not install grub on the mbr? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: size from df -kh vs size from fdisk -l
jbyers: Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled. does this last tell us anything useful? perhaps better to just reformat sda1? --- aldo foot: That's informative. I would do one of two things: (a) reformat the partition and create a new filesystem, or (b) use GParted to grow the filesystem to the full extent of the partition. Note that a partition can be 200GB, but there could be a small filesystem that does not occupy the entire partition... such is your case. jbyers: ok, i used gparted from a systemrescuecd it took me a while to see how to grow the fs but it worked GParted 0.4.1 Libparted 1.8.8 Check and repair file system (ext3) on /dev/sda1 00:00:31( SUCCESS ) calibrate /dev/sda1 00:00:00( SUCCESS ) path: /dev/sda1 start: 63 end: 42989939 size: 42989877 (20.50 GiB) check file system on /dev/sda1 for errors and (if possible) fix them 00:00:00( SUCCESS ) e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1 Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information 11 inodes used (0.02%) 0 non-contiguous inodes (0.0%) # of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 0/0/0 12003 blocks used (5.98%) 0 bad blocks 0 large files 0 regular files 2 directories 0 character device files 0 block device files 0 fifos 0 links 0 symbolic links (0 fast symbolic links) 0 sockets 2 files e2fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) grow file system to fill the partition 00:00:31( SUCCESS ) resize2fs /dev/sda1 Resizing the filesystem on /dev/sda1 to 21494936 (1k) blocks. The filesystem on /dev/sda1 is now 21494936 blocks long. resize2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) mount ... /dev/sda1 on /mnt/sda1 type ext3 (rw) r...@sysresccd /root % df -kh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sda1 20G 7.0M 19G 1% /mnt/sda1 so, finally the fs size looks same as partition one last comment prior to doing the resize # /sbin/blkid urrr: /dev/sda1: LABEL=/boot UUID=e9ebdaea-2ae2-4a99-8eee-bf3ca8af7b8b SEC_TYPE=ext2 TYPE=ext3 used to be LABEL=/ further proof, if any was needed, that the f10liveinstallcd tried to put in a /boot partition overwriting my entire fc5 / partition thanks to all who helped Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD
ect: Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD jackson byers wrote: Well, the f10liveinstall cd didnt work for me, ( see f10 liveinstall cd trashed my main fc5) Well, FC5 is long out of support, that's what you get for waiting so long until you finally upgrade. (Hint: you're supposed to upgrade at each or every other release, not wait 5 releases and then install in parallel, still keeping the totally outdated version.) Kevin Kofler - jbyers; I am fully aware that I was/am way out of date, and fully nonsupported in fc5. I _was_ trying to install the current f10 (which i think you would encourage) but wanted to retain fc5 until i successfully installed f10, surely a safe practice. Instead I got my main fc5 clobbered by some combination of --my own inexperience --a live/install cd that did not have a custom option. or i couldnt see it. David's experience also was that there was no custom option. I purchased my cd from OSDisc.com Fedora 10 KDE Edition - install/Live CD is this some outdated version? or a deficient version? not officially supported? How is one to know? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
size from df -kh vs size from fdisk -l
I asked this questiion in another thread f10 liveinstall cd trashed my main fc5 but i think it got lost in my longish msg # fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1267621494938+ 83 Linux /dev/sda226773163 3911827+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda33164446210434217+ 83 Linux sda1 size ~ 21.5 G but using df: # df -kh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb6 7.7G 5.6G 1.8G 77% / tmpfs1014M 0 1014M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 190M 5.6M 175M 4% /mnt/sda1 sda1 size = 190M how possible? advice, help on further diagnosing this? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: size from df -kh vs size from fdisk -l
n Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:37 AM, jackson byers byers...@gmail.com wrote: # fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1267621494938+ 83 Linux /dev/sda226773163 3911827+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda33164446210434217+ 83 Linux sda1 size ~ 21.5 G but using df: # df -kh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb6 7.7G 5.6G 1.8G 77% / tmpfs1014M 0 1014M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 190M 5.6M 175M 4% /mnt/sda1 sda1 size = 190M Andrew Parker wrote: df comes from the file system rather than the partition. is it possible that the sda1 partition was resized but not reformatted? if you can stand to lose the data, can you reformat the file system? do you then get the expected size? my problem is I dont know what happened, it occurred during a botched attempt at using the f10liveinstall cd to install (but backed out) It wasnt my intention to do anything to sda1 ( my target for install was sdb6) but somehow it clobbered sda1 contents, as seen by df, size 190M only 0.19G I dont know what that liveinstall attempt actually did but the _size_ as seen by fdisk is original size~21G so this tells me there was no resizing of the partition but df says size greatly reduced to 190M=0.19G I am now leery of doing anything until i understand what fdisk, df tell me I suppose my only choice now is to go ahead and reformat Jeff Voskamp wrote Or just try resize2fs /dev/sda1 to resize the filesystem to the size of the underlying partition. Jeff I will check out info or man page on resize2fs, thanks Stephen Berg wrote Aren't the Blocks listed from fdisk 512 and not 1024? Your numbers would agree quite nicely if so. Stephen Berg I dont think that is correct. I dont know exact def of blocks but cyls*8225280bytes ~ 21G this also checks well on my sdb6 where i am now booted up in my fc5copy /dev/sdb6 13022321 8193118+ 83 Linux (2321-1302)*8225280= 8381560320 bytes Any other explanations as to how size reported by fdisk not same as size from df? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD
Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD Kenneth Lee wrote: Use the Live CD to try out distributions. Download and burn the DVD, and use that for installations. This seems to be true with Fedora. Each distribution seems to work a little bit different, but the live CD's seem to be good for trying them out without changing what is on your current hard drive. Just don't Install if you want to test! Fedora seems to install best from the DVD. Kevin Kofler replied The live CDs install just fine. ... Well, the f10liveinstall cd didnt work for me, ( see f10 liveinstall cd trashed my main fc5) trying to install to one particular partition, sdb6 it instead somehow clobbered my main fc5 partition sda1. undoubtedly mostly (entirely?) because of my own very limited experience re installs. Are there guidelines for using the install option? It seemed to insist on using LVM. Can this be prevented? Not sure, but it might also have been trying to set up separate /boot partition? If so, can that also be prevented? if it insists on that, I wasnt prepared for it, having only sdb6 i was willing to give to f10. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD
David replied if it insists on that, I wasnt prepared for it, having only sdb6 i was willing to give to f10. I wrote about this the other day but I don't recall ever seeing it show up. First: A Live-CD *does not* install separate packages. A Live-CD writes itself to your hard similar to the way you burn an ISO to a CD. It will *erase your harddisk* and then write itself exactly as it is. You have no choices of anything. You boot the CD. You are looking at the OS running from memory. You decide to install it to your harddrive so you click the install icon. It formats your drive and writes itself to your drive. Exactly as it is on the CD. You reboot, answer a few questions and you are basically done. And *whatever* was on the HD before is gone. Period. The size of the CD it limited but they have put what most people would need. Anything else you install from the online repos. All of that aside I would seriously doubt that you could update a Fedora Core 5 install directly to a Fedora 10 install anyway. Too many years and too many changes. If you do a fresh install the has been updates since the Fedora 10 Live-CD was made. Probably another CD full of them. David --- It formats your drive and writes itself to your drive. Exactly as it is on the CD. You reboot, answer a few questions and you are basically done. yes but that doesnt answer my confusion as to how it chooses the hard drive or harddrive partition to write on. and whether it is forcing LVM on me and whether it is forcing a separate /boot partition. I have two scsi disks, sda, sdb I was trying to point it to my sdb6 it clobbered my sda1 Are you saying liveinstallcd will try to take over my either my entire sda or my entire sdb? I would seriously doubt that you could update a Fedora Core 5 install directly to a Fedora 10 install anyway. ??? this doesnt make sense to me. I thot the liveinstall was a fresh install, nothing to do with update thanks for response Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: size from df -kh vs size from fdisk -lf
sda1 size = 190M how possible? advice, help on further diagnosing this? Jack After using fdisk or parted, one must do partprobe at the CLI to record the changes. Both the OS and the Kernel need to know the changes. Since your boot partition is involved, you may need a LiveCD for this. Do man partprobe for more info. HTH, ~af --- but I didnt consciously use fdisk or parted on sda. If it happened bc of my clutzy use of the liveinstall cd then maybe I did, without knowing it. Actually my present boot partition is sdb6, /boot a dir inside, so present /boot not involved with my installcd mistakes on sda1. I have systemrescue cd so i probably can use that. I have never heard of partprobe is it really necessary if reboot after using fdisk,parted,gparted if reboot after? I am unclear re man page partprobe - inform the OS of partition table changes partprobe [-d] [-s] [devices...] partprobe is a program that informs the operating system kernel of parti- tion table changes, by requesting that the operating system re-read the partition table. OPTIONS -d Don’t update the kernel. -s Show a summary of devices and their partitions. what exactly does -d do? -s do nothing except show summary ? are you saying to run it as partprobe /dev/sda1 or partprobe /dev/sda ? will this operation shrink the size seen by fdisk to what is seen by df? or what? will it affect sda2 swap sda3 another linux partition ? parted shows same thing, but additional incompatible feature r...@bootp ~]# parted /dev/sda Using /dev/sda (parted) unit mb print Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0MB - 36704MB Disk label type: msdos Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 0MB 22011MB 22011MB primary ext3 boot 2 22011MB 26017MB 4006MB primary linux-swap 3 26017MB 36701MB 10685MB primary ext3 (parted) check 1 Warning: Partition 1 is 22011MB, but the file system is 206MB. Ignore/Cancel? ignore Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled. does this last tell us anything useful? perhaps better to just reformat sda1? thanks for response Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f10 liveinstall cd trashed my main fc5
My inexperience on installs really demonstrated I managed to completely fubar my main fc5 on sda1 using an f10 live/install cd I was able to recover w a backup fc5copysee below summary of f10liveinstall from memory, not sure of all steps --the livecd itself saw usb as sda? just like knoppix? --it had a confusing double menu for choice of disk --on 2nd half i clicked on sdc6 (ie sdb6) --but on 1st half it rqrd something to click sda,b, or c -- i may well have left this as sdb(ie sda)? --then its response listed something re LVM and a separate /boot partn?, evidently no choice -- i tried to back out before any changes commited, did it twice or more, could easily have made mistake/confused installer then viewing system from knoppix cd (here seen from reboot into my backup fc5copy) [r...@bootp ~]# df -kh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb6 7.7G 5.6G 1.8G 77% / tmpfs1014M 0 1014M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 190M 5.6M 175M 4% /mnt/sda1 only 190M??? [r...@bootp ~]# pwd nothing in sda1 except lost+found, my entire orig sda1 my mainfc5 wiped out at some point after this i did the mbr reinstall as per kyle rankin apr09LJ using dd and my mbrbackup on usb then fdisk -l looked normal [r...@bootp ~]# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1267621494938+ 83 Linux /dev/sda226773163 3911827+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda33164446210434217+ 83 Linux 21G size for sda1 but the df results say only 190M, a strong indication fubard. i finally was able to boot into my fc5copy on sdb6 by first installing into mbr of sda in knoppix cd root (hd1,5) setup (hd0) (this didnt work if usbexternal connected, seen as sda in knoppix then: root (hd2,5) setup (hd1) did say succeeded but trying to boot wo knoppix ends w GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB ) my questions re liveinstall cd --i was trying to use _only_ sdb6, (which i backed out of) but livecd also did something evidently wiping sda1 do i need to have available more than one partition for livecd? --livecd seems to leave no choice by LVM-- can i choose no LVM? --maybe livecd also trying to setup separate boot partn, not sure. again, can i choose no LVM? --re my apparently fubared sda1: just reformat? or no need? can i reuse it for other stuff? what size is it? I dont understand how fdisk shows sda size 21G but df has 190M?? all in all this was very frustrating, but --at least i have a working fc5 with only a few months of data files gone bc not backed up --before i finally recovered my fc5 copy on sdb6 i learned i could chroot to it off of the knoppixcd; this was useful, took notes running emacs in that chroot. --i did get practice using my mbrbackup and also practice knoppixcd to recover (did i need both?) question re knoppix cd (i know, this is OT for fedoralist) -- this is a purchased cd, it appears limited, comes up as microknoppix eg neither gpart nor gparted available --are there more complete versions? --the f10 liveinstall cd now has me scared off, but in its liveonly aspects does it have gparted, gpart? comments, advice all appreciated Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10 kde edition install/live cd no graphical screen
Rex Dieter wrote: jackson byers wrote: I am trying to use f10 kde edition install/live cd-- this is a purchased cd. All i get is a few lines on the consolemaybe said something wrong apci? What video hw? Try booting with: xdriver=vesa ? -- Rex - what does this mean? how to use that option? i dont seem to have any booting choices when booting from any live cd $ less /etc/sysconfig/hwconf ... class: VIDEO bus: PCI detached: 0 driver: matroxfb_base desc: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP video.xdriver: mga vendorId: 102b deviceId: 2527 subVendorId: 102b subDeviceId: 0f84 pciType: 1 pcidom:0 pcibus: 1 pcidev: 0 pcifn: 0 - class: VIDEO bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: Matrox G550 mem: 32768 - my main system is fc5 boots into level 3, then i use startx but this should not be affecting how a livecd boots? The other live cds i have tried come up automatically into their graphical screens. still mystified as to why I have trouble with this live/install cd while my hardware handles others just fine. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f10 kde edition install/live cd no graphical screen
I am trying to use f10 kde edition install/live cd-- this is a purchased cd. All i get is a few lines on the consolemaybe said something wrong apci? then a blue bar with fedora10 on end the cd makes noise like it is actually doing something then goes quiet. The screen then looks like it is showing shutdown, power off then just goes completely blank, computer remains powered on if i then do ctrl-alt-f2 it gives me localhost login: cant get anywhere with this. Is there some magic user name? i tried 'root', which seems to get past asking for password but no hint as to how to get the graphical response. I expected an automatic full graphical response from the beginning. i know the cdplayer is ok, i also have a centos 5.2 live cd that comes up as expected ( but no install option); also a knoppix 6.0 cd, ditto. f10 cd: Bad media? help, please Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
install to usb, when bios does not see usb?
Please bear with me on this newbie question, my install experience is quite limited. Is it possible to install to usb external disk when bios does not see usb? In an older thread Feb 21, 2009 Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files, Mikkel responded: I have done it both ways - as a fresh install, and by taking a hard drive with an installed OS, and putting it in an external USB case, and the drive has always ended up as /dev/sda. This is much less of a problem if you are using LVM and/of partition labels then if you are mounting partitions directly. (As long as your LVM names do not collide! ie more then one VolGroup00.) By far, the easiest is to do a fresh, expert install to a USB drive - it will even do the proper Grub install so that you can boot off the USB drive directly on any system that supports booting from a USB drive. You can do this when moving an install to an external case, but it is much easier doing it at install time. Mikkel --is this advice re fresh, expert install relevant in my case where it appears that bios does not recognize my usb external disk? --if so, is that because the install cd/dvd will see the usb? ie despite the bios problem? --are you saying that it will do a proper Grub install to the usb MBR? your point being that then the usb disk could be booted off of another system whose bios does both recognize and support booting from USB drive? --with my current box where the bios doesnt see the USB, the proper Grub install to the usb MBR won't be seen?, ie wont interfere with booting my older installs (fc5,...) from the MBR on my sda scsi disk? I do have that sda mbr backed up: [r...@bootp ~]# ls -l mbrbackup -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Mar 14 14:13 mbrbackup [r...@bootp ~]# thanks for any help Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: install to usb, when bios does not see usb?
thanks for replies from Kam Leo and John Austin re Kam Leo's #1 1. You cannot directly boot from a USB device if the BIOS does not support that feature. I had already understood that. My main questions, probably obscured bc of lack of detail on my part, 1)whether my usb disk could be mbr-installed to boot when connected to another system that had a bios that can boot usb, i.e., after being mbr-installed while still connected to my present system using say an f10 install cd/dvd, despite my present system bios not seeing the usb? 2) and if so, would that mbr prep on usb somehow interfere or not with my present scsi sda1 mbr? re John Austin's #1 1. As my main disk is dual boot windows, f10 (/ and /boot) I can write vmlinuz and initrd to /boot on the hard drive and boot my USB stick using these Yes, I already understood that, and in fact have been doing so for last few months not with f10 but fc5 and older kubuntu. Some detail on that I had mentioned to Mikkel in the old thread Feb 21, 2009 Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files any further response? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: using 'mv' instead of 'cp' to transfer directories to other partitions or disks
Cameron Simpson's response was like getting a complete tutorial! thanks very much! Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
using 'mv' instead of 'cp' to transfer directories to other partitions or disks
In another thread Re: shrinking reiserfs partitions, filesystems Roberto Ragusa responded Do not forget another option: copy everything somewhere else (external USB drive or something...), destroy the partition, recreate it smaller, format and copy back. In this way you get an implicit perfect defrag of your data, which could be more or less useful, depending on the current fragmentation of your filesystem. - my question: isn't it true that use of 'mv' is much faster than 'cp' or rsync? ie to copy everything somewhere else instead mv everything somewhere else and instead of ..and copy back do .. mv back Are there gotchas using 'mv' instead of the various copy tools? more fragmentation perhaps? I made one test case here to test mv I first made a copy of /lib to /libfc5copy and then tested mv on the latter to move it to my external usb mv libfc5copy /media/disk-1/mvlibfc5copy this seemed to complete in only a second or two. Of course this is only useful if you want to erase the original. thanks for any advice Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
shrinking reiserfs partitions, filesystems
I am more than a little confused about the need to resize (shrink) a filesystem in addition to shrinking the partition ---from man resize_reiserfs SYNOPSIS resize_reiserfs [ -s [+|-]size[K|M|G] ] [ -j dev ] [ -fqv ] device DESCRIPTION The resize_reiserfs tool resizes an unmounted reiserfs file system. It enlarges or shrinks an reiserfs file system located on a device If the -s option is not specified, the filesystem will be resized to fill the given device. If you wish to shrink a reiserfs partition, first use resize_reiserfs to shrink the file system. You may then use cfdisk(8) to shrink the device. When shrinking the size of the device, make sure you do not make it smaller than the reduced size of the reiserfs filesystem. --- end man page--- I had thought that the size of a filesystem was just the amount of stuff in there as given by df in the Used column eg on my external usb /dev/sdc1 which is one large reiserfs partition [r...@bootp ~]# df -kh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sdc1 233G 16G 218G 7% /media/disk-1 so, to me that meant the size of the filesystem was given in Used = 16G but it now seems that is wrong? ie size of the filesystem is actually the entire diskpartition =233G ? so if I want to shrink dev/sdc1 partition down to 50G I must 1) shrink the filesystem first using resize_reiserfs also to 50G ? 2) then use cfdisk to shrink the partition to 50G ? If that is correct, will I retain or lose my current data in that 16G Used? Is it easier/better to use parted,gparted... for shrinking reiserfs partitions? there was one recent msg on this list from Mikkel I think saying parted can handle resizing both partitions and filesystems? If that is right, it seems less chance for error compared to using two separate tools. One thing i found on google a 2007 gparted manual says libreiserfs is needed Is there any way to get libreiserfs on my fc5 system? There are apparently live cds,knoppix, gparted,... will these have everything needed including libreiserfs? thanks for any help, pointers, Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files
Mikkel, one pure kubuntu on usb, no disk reordering. I believe this is kubuntu 6.06 dapper, but done via debootstrap methods, which i just followed recipe found on web in dec 2006. It was first working on scsi, but then copied to usb I had to revive it, bc my fc5copy files were in top dir on usb. I redid the kubu debootstrap on usb; first set up on usb on dec22 2006 first mv'd out the fc5copy files to /mvfc5 2nd mv'd back kubu debootstrap files into top dir of usb this booted fine, so my mv out and mv back no problems, and kubuntu is on sdc, no reordering of disks. This may well not be what you wanted bc of the special debootstrap stuff but it is a case that is pure kubuntu, on sdc1, no reordering (I also currently have kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS from Install/live CD, which I somehow managed to install on scsi, in sdb5, also in dec 2006 --it is an install, i am certainly not booting off of CD. It still boots from scsi sdb5. I was hoping to get this booting on usb, but so far it is failing, in part bc of some glitches in my backup tools.) here is data showing debootstrap version usb booting on sdc1 r...@kubu:/# uname -a Linux kubu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux r...@kubu:/# I believe this kubuntu 6.06 dapper r...@kubu:/mnt# df -kh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 233G 14G 220G 6% / varrun 1014M 40K 1014M 1% /var/run varlock 1014M 4.0K 1014M 1% /var/lock udev 1014M 180K 1014M 1% /dev devshm 1014M 0 1014M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 21G 6.5G 13G 34% /fc5hold tmpfs1014M 0 1014M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sdb1 99M 23M 72M 24% /mnt/sdb1 r...@kubu:/mnt# r...@kubu:/# cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name 8 0 35843686 sda 8 1 21494938 sda1 8 23911827 sda2 8 3 10434217 sda3 816 35843686 sdb 817 104391 sdb1 8182048287 sdb2 819 104422 sdb3 820 1 sdb4 8218193118 sdb5 8228193118 sdb6 823 17197551 sdb7 832 244198584 sdc 833 244196001 sdc1 253 0 21494938 dm-0 253 13911827 dm-1 253 2 10434217 dm-2 253 3 104391 dm-3 253 42048287 dm-4 253 5 104422 dm-5 253 68193118 dm-6 253 78193118 dm-7 253 8 17197551 dm-8 253 9 244196001 dm-9 cat /etc/fstab /dev/sdc1/ reiserfs defaults0 0 /dev/sda1/fc5hold ext3 defaults1 2 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 tmpfs/dev/shm tmpfs defaults0 0 proc /proc proc defaults0 0 sysfs/sys sysfs defaults0 0 /dev/sda2swap swapdefaults0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 from grub.conf : title kubuntu dapper usb debootstrap ### root (hd0,0) pick up kernel,initrd from sda1,works root (hd1,0) ### sdb1, only kubufiles cp from kubuinstall,works ### root (hd2,0) ### doesnt work kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 ro root=/dev/sdc1 initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386 So, is this useful as proof that kubuntu does not reorder usb to sda? or is this debootstrap business too tricky to say anything about a pure standard install? Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files,
Mikkel responded: I have done it both ways - as a fresh install, and by taking a hard drive with an installed OS, and putting it in an external USB case, and the drive has always ended up as /dev/sda. This is much less of a problem if you are using LVM and/of partition labels then if you are mounting partitions directly. (As long as your LVM names do not collide! ie more then one VolGroup00.) By far, the easiest is to do a fresh, expert install to a USB drive - it will even do the proper Grub install so that you can boot off the USB drive directly on any system that supports booting from a USB drive. You can do this when moving an install to an external case, but it is much easier doing it at install time. Mikkel --- Mikkel, I am sure you know the best way, but consider: re LVM: I know nothing; re partition labels: I have some but limited experience; re fresh installs: very limited --my main fc5 was put on for me by a vendor in aug 06 --i did that kubuntu install (from a dvd? cant recall) late06,early 07 -- and some other knoppix-based things re fresh, expert install to usb/or scsi: I have no experience I got into this bc Iwas trying to prepare for installing f9,f10 on my scsi sda,sdb, and so backed up fc5 to my usb to make space on scsi. My usb is one large reiserfs partition ( set up by my vendor in 2006) (I am uncertain as to what tool to use to shrink that usb reiserfs partition without losing my backupdata, or even if that is possible. I would like more than one partition if I am going to get into doing installs to the usb) Then, it was only bc I was frustrated it seemed completely to boot off my fc5copy on usb ( could not find /dev/root...) that i tried the kubuntu 2.6.26-386 kernel,initrd and that worked! so then I got your advice re usb-storage etc,etc and i finally got it also working using the fc5 kernel,initrd. So, all my recent experience is with doing the copy not a fresh install so I will try that with a usb copy of the kubuntu install. If that succeeds, whatever the result sda or sdc, then i will look into doing fresh, expert install to usb of f9 or f10 thanks much for your detailed responses Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files
in the thread
boot from backup copy of fc5 on usb external disk?
i described my initial problems and final success
Here I comment on the differences between kubuntu,fedora initrd
I had success using two different kernel,initrd
1) obtained from a kubuntu install
stanza in grub.conf:
title FC5copy (2.6.15-26-386) usbfc5 /media/disk-1 (hd1,2)sdb3 rootusb
root (hd1,2) ## sdb3
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 ro root=LABEL=rootusb rhgb quiet
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
This worked without any modifications on my part of the initrd init script
Moreover the disks were _not_ reordered
2)using my mainfc5
stanza in grub.conf:
title FC5copy (2.6.17-1.2174_FC5_usbrs4.sdb2sw.img) /media/disk-1 (hd1,2)
root (hd1,2) ## sdb3
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 ro root=LABEL=rootusb rhgb
quiet
initrd /boot/initrd_usbrs4.sdb2sw.img
This also worked, but here I had to make modification of initrd init script
both on resume /dev/sdxx
and on mkrootdev -t reiserfs -o defaults,ro /dev/sdc1
And here the disks _were_ reordered.
usb originally sdc - now sda
first scsi originally sda now sdb
second scsi originally sdb, now sdc
This reordering caused me much confusion almost to the point where
I was going to give up.
So, the kubuntu kernel,initrd worked with minimum of fuss
the fedora kernel,initrd rqrd days of effort, confusion
(in part bc of my perpetual noobie status)
Aside from the different results just noted
my additional point here is that the
initrd init files are almost completely different in the two cases.
case 2) fedora initrd-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 (modified
toinitrd_usbrs4.sdb2sw.img)
[r...@bootp cleanrs3]# tail init
mkblkdevs
resume /dev/sdb2
echo Creating root device.
mkrootdev -t reiserfs -o defaults,ro /dev/sdc1
echo Mounting root filesystem.
mount /sysroot
echo Setting up other filesystems.
setuproot
echo Switching to new root and running init.
switchroot
case 1) kubuntu: initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
here the script is quite long; I will list the whole thing at the end.
I am not competent enough to try and edit this init;
as noted above, I didnt have to, it just worked.
This init has none of the fedora init structure
no use at all of
mkrootdev, sysroot, switchroot
googling could not find /dev/root gives a lot of msgs over
the past few years, all failing sysroot, switchroot,
and ending in kernel panic,
mostly from redhat,fedora users.
I dont think I saw even one from ubuntu users--
that now is no surprise bc the ubuntu init file does its thing
in a different way.
Here is the init file from initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
I would be interested in comments as to what it is doing;
and especially if anyone knows how it avoids reordering the disks.
[r...@bootp clean386]# cat init
#!/bin/sh
mkdir /sys
mkdir /proc
mkdir /tmp
mkdir -p /var/lock
mount -t sysfs none /sys
mount -t proc none /proc
# Note that this only becomes /dev on the real filesystem if udev's scripts
# are used; which they will be, but it's worth pointing out
mount -t tmpfs -o mode=0755 udev /dev
touch /dev/.initramfs-tools
mkdir /dev/.initramfs
mknod /dev/console c 5 1
mknod /dev/null c 1 3
# Export the dpkg architecture
export DPKG_ARCH=
. /conf/arch.conf
# Bring in the main config
. /conf/initramfs.conf
for i in conf/conf.d/*; do
[ -f ${i} ] . ${i}
done
. /scripts/functions
# Parse command line options
export break=
export init=/sbin/init
export quiet=n
export readonly=y
export ROOT=
export resume=${RESUME}
export rootmnt=/root
export debug=
for x in $(cat /proc/cmdline); do
case $x in
init=*)
init=${x#init=}
;;
root=*)
ROOT=${x#root=}
case $ROOT in
LABEL=*)
ROOT=/dev/disk/by-label/${ROOT#LABEL=}
;;
UUID=*)
ROOT=/dev/disk/by-uuid/${ROOT#UUID=}
;;
esac
;;
nfsroot=*)
NFSROOT=${x#nfsroot=}
;;
boot=*)
BOOT=${x#boot=}
;;
resume=*)
resume=${x#resume=}
;;
quiet)
quiet=y
;;
ro)
readonly=y
;;
rw)
readonly=n
;;
debug)
debug=y
exec /tmp/initramfs.debug 21
set -x
;;
break=*)
break=${x#break=}
;;
break)
break=premount
;;
esac
done
depmod -a
maybe_break top
# Don't do log messages here to avoid confusing usplash
run_scripts /scripts/init-top
. /scripts/${BOOT}
parse_numeric ${ROOT}
maybe_break modules
log_begin_msg Loading essential drivers...
load_modules
log_end_msg
maybe_break premount
[ $quiet != y ] log_begin_msg Running
Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files
poc responded: On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 11:16 -0800, jackson byers wrote: Here I comment on the differences between kubuntu,fedora initrd Fedora Core 5? It would be nice to know if this is relevant to F9 and F10. Plus you don't say what version of Kubuntu you used. poc -- being way behind the current versions, of course I have no idea if this is relevant to f9,f10. But if kubuntu present version still behaves as i said, ie no reordering of disks while fedora f9,f10 probably still does reorder the disks, then my question could well be of interest to f9,f10, for anyone looking to use usb external installs. e.g., learning how kubuntu manages to not reorder. I do see occasional other msgs in this list from users in fc2,fc5,fc6, afaik there is no list rule that we cant ask questions on unsupported versions. Correct me if I am wrong. the kernel version was given in my message I believe it came packaged in kubuntu 6.06 dapper Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files
Mikkel responded: To tell if Ubuntu does the same thing, you would have to do the same type of install. The reordering of the disks is because of two reasons. The first is because of the BIOS, and affects Grub. When you boot from a USB device, that device becomes BIOS drive 80, or Grub drive hd0. This is because what ever hard drive you boot from is automatically set to BIOS drive 80. This is also true when you tell the BIOS to boot from the second hard drive in the machine. The other reason affects the kernel ordering. How the kernel assigns drives depends on the module loading order. Because you have to load the usb_storage module from the initrd, the USB drive is the first controller scanned. (There are ways to change that, but it not easy.) This affects any kernel, or distribution that uses modules. You run into the same thing when you install Ubuntu to a USB drive. That is why a USB install is only offered as an expert install. Mikkel -- ikkel, thanks for response. As is often the case, your response if full of info. I am trying to absorb it all. To tell if Ubuntu does the same thing, you would have to do the same type of install. First, let's be sure we are on same page. What I did was to boot a usbexternaldisk copy of main fc5. (this was not an anaconda install to the usbdisk) I did this 2ways, each with its own grub.conf stanza 1) using kernel,initrd from a kubuntu 6.06 dapper this boots, disks are _not_ reordered ie usb is seen as sdc 2) using the kernel,initrd of the fc5copy(same as in mainfc5) this boots, disks _are_ reordered ie usb is seen as sda But, my bios does not see the usb disk, so in _both_ cases I copied the /boot files from the fc5copy into sdb3 = (hd1,2) This makes it some kind of usb/scsi hybrid bc the /boot files are on sdb So when you say have to do same type of install I think you mean, make a usbdisk copy of the kubuntu install (now on sdb5) and then use the kubuntu kernel,initrd to boot this. Then, if this again results in disks _not_ reordered, only then will be able to see if ubuntu does the same thing. Correct me if I am not understanding you. this will take some time, but I want to go thru with it. I first have to mv the fc5copy out of the topdir of the usb(its one large partn) and have my backup scripts do the copy of the kubuntu install to topdir of usb. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A reminder of EOL for F8
Aaron Gray wrote Legacy SCSI and SCSI RAID controllers are not supported in F9 and F10 due to HAL switchover, this is a known problem but no one seems to want to do anything about it. my controller from lspci 02:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02) is this one considered legacy? can you point me to source for more detail? thanks Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: boot from backup copy of fc5 on usb external disk? [solved]
feb 17 2009 success booting fc5copy on usb external disk thanks to Mikkel for pointing me in right direction this fc5copy was not an install, but rather a backup copy of my mainfc5 on a scsi disk on sda1 for days i was getting cant find /dev/root kernel panic finally fixed that with proper mkinitrd see below then was getting cant access resume device /dev/sda2 for days now understand that occuring bc of disk reordering part of my problem was using reisrfs on the usb, but ext3 on mainfc5 on sda1 this required an extra --preload=reiserfs in mkinitrd cmd and a further editing of the mkrootdev line in the initrd init file. r...@bootp ~]# mkdir cleanrs2; cd cleanrs2 [r...@bootp cleanrs2]# mkinitrd --preload=ehci-hcd --preload=usb-storage --preload=reiserfs /boot/initrd_usbrs2.img 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 expand: [r...@bootp cleanrs2]# gunzip -c initrd_usbrs2.img |cpio -i 5551 blocks [r...@bootp cleanrs2]# ls bin dev etc init initrd_usbrs2.img lib proc sbin sys sysroot now modify the mkrootdev line from mkrootdev -t ext3 -o defaults,ro /dev/sda1 to mkrootdev -t reiserfs -o defaults,ro /dev/sdc1 repack: [r...@bootp cleanrs2]# find . |cpio -c -o |gzip -9 ../initrd_usbrs2.img at this point, still getting cant access resume device /dev/sda2 but no longer getting caught in cant find /dev/root next problem was getting caught in filesytem check on sda1,sda3 which eventually forced a reboot, but no kernel panic! The sda1,sda3 problems evidently bc of reordering of the disks (see below) I got around this gotcha by commenting out the sda1, sda3 lines in the usb fstab my mainfc5 grub.conf has following stanza for the usb boot title FC5copy (2.6.17-1.2174_FC5_usbrs2.img) /media/disk-1 (hd1,2) root (hd1,2) ## sdb3 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 ro root=LABEL=rootusb rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd_usbrs2.img when booted up from usb: fdisk clearly shows disks have been reordered [r...@bootp ~]# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 30401 244196001 83 Linux was sdc1 Disk /dev/sdb: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1267621494938+ 83 Linux was sda1,2,3 /dev/sdb226773163 3911827+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb33164446210434217+ 83 Linux so to get swap working need /dev/sdb2 instead of /dev/sda2 in usb fstab Disk /dev/sdc: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux was sdb1-7 /dev/sdc2 14 268 2048287+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdc3 269 281 104422+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc4 282446233583882+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdc5 2821301 8193118+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc613022321 8193118+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc72322446217197551 83 Linux [r...@bootp ~]# if want mainfc5 (on sda1) mounted when boot from usb need /dev/sdb1 /fc5holdin usb fstab finally i think i have fixed the cant find resume device i changed the fstab swap line to use sdb2 in place of sda2 but it seemed to require rebooting twice for it to take effect at this point, my usb backup copy of my mainfc5(which is on a scsi disk) is booting without complaint The only thing i cant do is to have the fc5copy /boot found on the usb, evidently bc my bios cant see the usb disk so my fc5copy /boot was copied to sdb3 -- root (hd1,2) in grub.conf this is just a holding tank for the /boot files: I am not treating it as a separate /boot partition, not listed in fstab regards, Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: mkinitrd fails in fc5 [solved]
my failure of mkinitrd command was evidently caused by my cutting, pasting (via mouse middlle button) from a pdf fileusb_install.pdf that i d/ld from somewhere and every slight change i made was still operating on most of the original. The copied line looked correct when i first put into a text file, but there must have been some character mistranslation. When i typed in the full command mkinitrd responded as it should sorry for the noise Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mkinitrd fails in fc5
Linux bootp 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 #1 Tue Aug 8 15:30:55 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I cannot get mkinitrd to work. It only responds with the --help list, seeming to say that my syntax is wrong. I am attempting to include usb-storage I am running as root from /root [r...@bootp ~]# mkinitrd preload=ehci-hcd preload=usb-storage preload=scsi_mod preload=sd_mod /boot/initrd_usb.img 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 usage: mkinitrd [--version] [--help] [-v] [-f] [--preload module] [--force-ide-probe] [--force-scsi-probe | --omit-scsi-modules] [--image-version] [--force-scsi-probe | --omit-raid-modules] [--with=module] [--force-lvm-probe | --omit-lvm-modules] [--builtin=module] [--omit-dmraid] [--fstab=fstab] [--nocompress] initrd-image kernel-version (ex: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.2.5-15.img 2.2.5-15) [r...@bootp ~]# and no new .img in /boot: [r...@bootp ~]# ls -l /boot/*img* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1058886 Aug 17 2006 /boot/initrd-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1081430 Aug 21 2006 /boot/initrd-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7006019 Dec 21 2006 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386 my experience running mkinitrd is meager, but this just looks broken. maybe fc5 is just too old? I saw lots of mkinitrd bugs wont fix by googling. but this lack of any response except the help pkg tells me I am doing something basically wrong. I get same result using \ to breakup the command into two lines thanks for any help Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: mkinitrd fails in fc5
Mikkel responded You normally do not need to preload any SCSI modules. But the big mistake I see here is you are using preload instead of --preload. Mikkel thanks to both Sam and Mikkel but it does appear gmail was chewing my message I hadthe double dash everywhere as per the man page Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
boot from backup copy of fc5 on usb external disk?
main fc5 system on sda1 [by...@bootp drhmail09]$uname -a Linux bootp 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 #1 Tue Aug 8 15:30:55 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I am trying to boot from a backupcopy of my mainfc5 which backupcopy is in top dir of the usb disk /dev/sdc1 mounted as /media/disk-1 when in mainfc5 that usbdisk is one large reiserfs partition sdc1 1) first problem if i use in grub.conf in a new stanza root (hd2,0) corresponding to /dev/sdc1 then boot fails immediately hd2 does not exist I also note that when booting my mainfc5 there is an early message (not seen in dmesg) something like cant find special .../dev/sdc1 then later in the boot process it does find sdc1: [by...@bootp drhmail09]$ dmesg |grep sdc1 sdc: sdc1 ReiserFS: sdc1: found reiserfs format 3.6 with standard journal ReiserFS: sdc1: using ordered data mode ReiserFS: sdc1: journal params: device sdc1, size 8192, journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit age 30, max trans age 30 ReiserFS: sdc1: checking transaction log (sdc1) ReiserFS: sdc1: Using r5 hash to sort names both pieces of evidence imply that usb disk not available early enough in the boot process Is there any fix for this or a workaround? 2) second problem if i cheat and copy the /boot dir from the usb fc5copy into /dev/sdb3 and use root (hd1,2) in grub.conf then again attempting to boot from usb gets to ok booting the kernel but shortly fails with could not find /dev/root and other couldnotfind then kernel panic,locks up googling could not find /dev/root reveals that this has been a problem in several fedora last few yrs, (most or all of them _not_ using external usb disk) fc6,fc7 maybe i saw one on fc8 as well but no clean solution, in general not obvious (to me) why it occurred. some cases helped with use LABELs, some not. ( i tried this, no help) some cases helped with complex(to me) mkinitrd some cases helped with earlier kernel, but i dont see explanation of why In my case, the following stanza using an older kernel does boot! but has other problems. eg networking not avail until i do a 2nd boot I got the older kernel from some oddball kubuntu thing i was experimenting with way back title FC5copy (2.6.15-26-386) usbfc5 /media/disk-1 (hd1,2)sdb3 rootusb root (hd1,2) ## sdb3 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 ro root=LABEL=rootusb rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386 this kernel 2.6.15-26-386 instead of what i use in mainfc5 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 Is there any current advice re could not find /dev/root? has anyone seen it in f8,f9,f10? thanks for any advice yes i know i should get f9 or f10. but i would like to see if I can find clean method to booting from usbexternal disk. Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
konqueror usb media:/sdc1/ but mounted on /media/sdc1
an external usb disk is mounted as /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk-1 type reiserfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync) which mount occurs on double clicking of the usb icon on the desktop but the konqueror window which also pops up shows in its location bar media:/sdc1/ here there is no leading / on media no /disk-1following media and no /dev leading the /sdc1 is there documentation explaining these differences? is this media:/sdc1 ever used by users as an alternative location syntax? thanks for any help this is on FC5 $ uname -a Linux bootp 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 #1 Tue Aug 8 15:30:55 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?
Great posts by Tom Horsley and Mike Cloaked re installing from iso files on hard disk. My main question is how did Tom, Mike know that the Anaconda options repo=hd:device:/pathtoiso and/or stage2=hd:device:/pathtoinstall.img can/should be added to the kernel line in grub.conf? additional question re the stage2= option , quoting from the anaconda options: Quote: stage2= Specifies a path to a install.img file instead of to an installation source. Otherwise, follows the same syntax as repo=. If this parameter is provided, it takes precedence over all other methods of finding the install.img. Otherwise, anaconda will attempt to find the install.img first on any existing CD, and then from the location given by repo=/method=. If only stage2= is given without repo=/method=, anaconda will endquote Question: what is meant by repo=/method= ??? it is used twice so not likely a typo Perhaps some programming jargon(python?) ? Thanks for advice Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
laptop fc7 with NetworkManager couldnt find wired ip
on new laptop, with fc7
NetworkManager in charge
couldnt get on network with wired connection to router
ifconfig kept givingeth0 169.254.
finally from google search on 169.
DHCP Considerations
DHCP clients automatically give their NICs and IP address starting
with 169.254.x.x until they can make contact with their DHCP server.
When contact is made they reconfigure their IP addresses to the values
provided by the DHC server. An interface with a 169.254.x.x address
signifies a failure to communicate with the DHCP server. Check your
cabling, routing and DHCP server configuration to rectify such a
problem.
ok at least then i knew the 169.xx was a standard
but i was prettty sure my wiring was ok
basically dslmodem-linksysrouter- lanside
- 2desktops static ips working for years, fc5 and an imacg5.
But now the fc7 laptop also wired connecition, but trying to connect via dhcp
which was evidently my problem.
Maybe not surprising since I have been strictly static ip based up until now.
It has been years since i did any configure steps on the router
and i have probably misplaced any cd that came with it.
So i wasnt at all sure at how to go about trying to wake up my router
to dhcp requests
I finally found in carla schroder linux cookbook a complete example
for setting up a dhcp server which i used on the laptop,
altho i wasnt at all sure this would help me wake up my router to
dhcp requests.
I put in following file
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat dhcpd.conf
default-lease-time 259200;
max-lease-time 518400;
subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.2.255;
option routers 192.168.2.1;
range 192.168.2.90 192.168.2.150;
option domain-name-servers 206.13.28.12 206.13.31.12;
}
(As an aside, I would _never_ have figured out all of that syntax from
the various dhcp,dhclient man pages)
and rebooted the laptop
I had to fuss a bit more:
in order for eth0 to get its new dhcp assigned ip, it
seemed to also require taking the ethernet cable out and back in.
But now the laptop is on the net with dhcp working, and surviving reboots.
Questions:
1)Is what i did overkill? I think it means i made the laptop itself
the dhcp server.
Its working, but i would like some feedback from the list
2) what steps would i need to instead try to kick the router into
doing the dhcp?
Several months ago my vendor had me jumping thru hoops using dhclient
and some combo, including taking cable out/back in,
eventually got the wired eth0 working.
But then family health problemsetc intervened and I just abandoned the laptop
until now.
Any hints re use of dhclient?
3) any one else needing to take ethernet cables out and then back in to
make connections come alive?
any/all comments appreciated
Jack
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