RE: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-25 Thread Markus Kesaromous 




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> Subject: RE: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:36:13 -0700
>
>
>
>
> 
>> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
>> From: wal...@bellsouth.net
>> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:45:08 -0400
>> Subject: Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
>>
>> Markus Kesaromous wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
>>>> From: wal...@bellsouth.net
>>>> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:11:56 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
>>>>
>>>> Bill McGonigle wrote:
>>>>> On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote:
>>>>>> Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I
>>>>>> can buy and use with Fedora 10?
>>>>> Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://is.gd/2wuqo
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had good luck with ralink myself. A comment there says 2.6.24 or
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds good. Are there any PCI producta that you specifically know of
>>>> available with the Ralink chipset that also support the 5 GHz band?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> William
>>>
>>> Please be aware that ralink 27xx and 28xx and beyond are not supported by 
>>> fedora. Everytime fedora kernel is updated, you will have to rebuild the 
>>> ralink driver for that updated kernel. And it is not just a matter of 
>>> running make xconfig to enable the rt2860 driver in the staging area, and 
>>> then
>>> building the kernel. You will have to "enable" wpa_supplicant settings in 
>>> ralink's config.mk file like this:
>>>
>>> # Support Wpa_Supplicant
>>> HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y
>>>
>>> # Support Native WpaSupplicant for Network Maganger
>>> HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y
>>>
>>> before you start the kernel build.
>>>
>>> If you have multiple production systems that you wish to install this
>>> card on, you might want to choose a pci card that is currently supported by 
>>> the madwifi driver or by the ath9k driver.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>
>> Unfortunately, as stated earlier (from the beginning?) of this thread, I
>> tried an Atheros card, and I could not get it to work with my DVD
>> decoder card installed. The system would lock up every time once the
>> drivers were loaded, both in Windows XP and in Fedora 10, and even when
>> the cards were sitting on separate IRQs. I'd be happy to try other
>> chipsets, but I don't know which brands contain which chipsets. If
>> someone could point me to a PCI card that uses a non-Atheros chipset and
>> is dual-band, I'll buy it. Otherwise, could someone tell me how to find
>> one of these cards that are supported by Linux yet do not use Atheros?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> William
>
> You tried one Atheros card, you do not tell us who manufactured the card,
> which atheros chipset, ...etc etc and now you think ALL atheros based 
> cards from all manufacturers will have the same conflict with your mpeg card??
>
>



William,
Take a look at this card. Fully supported by the Linux ath9k driver.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704031

Great thing about newegg, they will accept returns with a full refund
within 30 days - they even send you a free UPS shipping label.
This has been my experience with them.

Cheers,

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RE: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-25 Thread Markus Kesaromous 




> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> From: wal...@bellsouth.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:45:08 -0400
> Subject: Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
>
> Markus Kesaromous wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
>>> From: wal...@bellsouth.net
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:11:56 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
>>>
>>> Bill McGonigle wrote:
>>>> On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote:
>>>>> Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I
>>>>> can buy and use with Fedora 10?
>>>> Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15:
>>>>
>>>> http://is.gd/2wuqo
>>>>
>>>> I've had good luck with ralink myself. A comment there says 2.6.24 or
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>> Sounds good. Are there any PCI producta that you specifically know of
>>> available with the Ralink chipset that also support the 5 GHz band?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> William
>>
>> Please be aware that ralink 27xx and 28xx and beyond are not supported by 
>> fedora. Everytime fedora kernel is updated, you will have to rebuild the 
>> ralink driver for that updated kernel. And it is not just a matter of 
>> running make xconfig to enable the rt2860 driver in the staging area, and 
>> then
>> building the kernel. You will have to "enable" wpa_supplicant settings in 
>> ralink's config.mk file like this:
>>
>> # Support Wpa_Supplicant
>> HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y
>>
>> # Support Native WpaSupplicant for Network Maganger
>> HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y
>>
>> before you start the kernel build.
>>
>> If you have multiple production systems that you wish to install this
>> card on, you might want to choose a pci card that is currently supported by 
>> the madwifi driver or by the ath9k driver.
>>
>> Good luck.
>
> Unfortunately, as stated earlier (from the beginning?) of this thread, I
> tried an Atheros card, and I could not get it to work with my DVD
> decoder card installed. The system would lock up every time once the
> drivers were loaded, both in Windows XP and in Fedora 10, and even when
> the cards were sitting on separate IRQs. I'd be happy to try other
> chipsets, but I don't know which brands contain which chipsets. If
> someone could point me to a PCI card that uses a non-Atheros chipset and
> is dual-band, I'll buy it. Otherwise, could someone tell me how to find
> one of these cards that are supported by Linux yet do not use Atheros?
>
> Thanks,
> William

You tried one Atheros card, you do not tell us who manufactured the card,
which  atheros chipset, ...etc etc  and now you think ALL atheros based 
cards from all manufacturers will have the same conflict with your mpeg card??


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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-25 Thread William M. Quarles 

Markus Kesaromous wrote:





To: fedora-list@redhat.com
From: wal...@bellsouth.net
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:11:56 -0400
Subject: Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

Bill McGonigle wrote:

On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote:

Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I
can buy and use with Fedora 10?

Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15:

http://is.gd/2wuqo

I've had good luck with ralink myself. A comment there says 2.6.24 or
better.


Sounds good. Are there any PCI producta that you specifically know of
available with the Ralink chipset that also support the 5 GHz band?

Thanks,
William


Please be aware that ralink 27xx and 28xx and beyond are not supported by 
fedora. Everytime fedora kernel is updated, you will have to rebuild the ralink 
driver for that updated kernel. And it is not just a matter of running make 
xconfig to enable the rt2860 driver in the staging area, and then
building the kernel. You will have to "enable" wpa_supplicant settings in 
ralink's config.mk file like this:

# Support Wpa_Supplicant
HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y

# Support Native WpaSupplicant for Network Maganger
HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y

before you start the kernel build.

If you have multiple production systems that you wish to install this
card on,  you might want to choose a pci card that is currently supported by 
the madwifi driver or by the ath9k driver.

Good luck.


Unfortunately, as stated earlier (from the beginning?) of this thread, I 
tried an Atheros card, and I could not get it to work with my DVD 
decoder card installed. The system would lock up every time once the 
drivers were loaded, both in Windows XP and in Fedora 10, and even when 
the cards were sitting on separate IRQs. I'd be happy to try other 
chipsets, but I don't know which brands contain which chipsets. If 
someone could point me to a PCI card that uses a non-Atheros chipset and 
is dual-band, I'll buy it. Otherwise, could someone tell me how to find 
one of these cards that are supported by Linux yet do not use Atheros?


Thanks,
William

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RE: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-24 Thread Markus Kesaromous 




> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> From: wal...@bellsouth.net
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:11:56 -0400
> Subject: Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
>
> Bill McGonigle wrote:
>> On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote:
>>> Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I
>>> can buy and use with Fedora 10?
>>
>> Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15:
>>
>> http://is.gd/2wuqo
>>
>> I've had good luck with ralink myself. A comment there says 2.6.24 or
>> better.
>>
>
> Sounds good. Are there any PCI producta that you specifically know of
> available with the Ralink chipset that also support the 5 GHz band?
>
> Thanks,
> William

Please be aware that ralink 27xx and 28xx and beyond are not supported by 
fedora. Everytime fedora kernel is updated, you will have to rebuild the ralink 
driver for that updated kernel. And it is not just a matter of running make 
xconfig to enable the rt2860 driver in the staging area, and then
building the kernel. You will have to "enable" wpa_supplicant settings in 
ralink's config.mk file like this:

# Support Wpa_Supplicant
HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y

# Support Native WpaSupplicant for Network Maganger
HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y

before you start the kernel build.

If you have multiple production systems that you wish to install this
card on,  you might want to choose a pci card that is currently supported by 
the madwifi driver or by the ath9k driver.

Good luck.

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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-24 Thread William M. Quarles 

Bill McGonigle wrote:

On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote:

Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I
can buy and use with Fedora 10?


Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15:

  http://is.gd/2wuqo

I've had good luck with ralink myself.  A comment there says 2.6.24 or
better.



Sounds good. Are there any PCI producta that you specifically know of 
available with the Ralink chipset that also support the 5 GHz band?


Thanks,
William

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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-24 Thread Bill McGonigle 
On 08/21/2009 03:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote:
> Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I
> can buy and use with Fedora 10?

Just happened to see one in today's NewEgg mailer for $15:

  http://is.gd/2wuqo

I've had good luck with ralink myself.  A comment there says 2.6.24 or
better.

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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Goodwin 

William M. Quarles wrote:

Fernando Cassia wrote:



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, William M. Quarles 
mailto:wal...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:


Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that
I can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP
Atheros-based wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs
REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP
Pro and in Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot
setup, I couldn't get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any
ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
William


I don't currently use Wi-Fi on my desktop(s)... since I cabled my 
home with five gigabit-ethernet sockets per room. :-)


But when I did use Wi-Fi, I used cardbus cards hooked to 
pci-to-cardbus adapters.


Here's some:

Addonics ADPCICB2 - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8&tag=mnmsprst-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00023LTKK 
 



And
D-Link A/G Wi-Fi Cardbus adapter - $11.78
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8&tag=mnmsprst-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C 
 



Total: $60.78

This also gives you the flexibility of exchanging Wi-Fi cards when 
new standards arrive, or exchanging cards in case of trouble, without 
opening up the case.


(Cardbus cards are, for all intents and purposes, the same as PCI)


Well, except for the fact you can remove a Cardbus adapter while the 
computer is still running with little trouble.


Thanks for the tip, but I'd still be much more interested in a PCI 
card... although I do have the urge to add a Cardbus adapter later for 
a professional recording Cardbus sound card, so that I can also use 
the card on my laptop. I think that you might have overpaid for that 
PCI=to-Cardbus adaptor though, I could have sworn that I have seen 
them at a lower price before.


Does anybody out there know of some good PCI wireless netowkring cards 
that aren't Atheros-based?


Thanks,
William

Of course, there's also USB Wi-Fi dongles but in my experience those 
don't match the range of cardbus cards (antenna design, or power 
limits, perhaps?).


Wireless Ethernet bridges are really the best way to go in my opinion. 
No driver problems, easy to configure from a browser, and  also function 
as a four port swithc.  Buffalo has one that is either a bridge or a 
router. All are available at discounted prices. Cost a little more than 
a pci card but with none of the headaches ... i can set one  up on my 
Linux box and use it on the Mac and Windows computers as well with no 
further effort, just plug int the Ethernet port. It acts like a wired 
connection.


http://www.buffalotech.com/products/wireless/nfiniti-wireless-n-dual-band/nfiniti-wireless-n-dual-band-ethernet-converter-wli-tx4-ag300n/

http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Technology-WHR-HP-G54-Wireless-G-Performance/dp/tech-data/B000AOKTJ8/ref=de_a_smtd

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Dual-Band-Wireless-N-Gaming-Adapter/dp/B0010TEOLQ/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2#productPromotions

Bob

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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-24 Thread William M. Quarles 

Fernando Cassia wrote:



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, William M. Quarles 
mailto:wal...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:


Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that
I can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP
Atheros-based wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs
REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP
Pro and in Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot
setup, I couldn't get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any
ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
William


I don't currently use Wi-Fi on my desktop(s)... since I cabled my home 
with five gigabit-ethernet sockets per room. :-)


But when I did use Wi-Fi, I used cardbus cards hooked to pci-to-cardbus 
adapters.


Here's some:

Addonics ADPCICB2 - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8&tag=mnmsprst-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00023LTKK 



And
D-Link A/G Wi-Fi Cardbus adapter - $11.78
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8&tag=mnmsprst-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C 



Total: $60.78

This also gives you the flexibility of exchanging Wi-Fi cards when new 
standards arrive, or exchanging cards in case of trouble, without 
opening up the case.


(Cardbus cards are, for all intents and purposes, the same as PCI)


Well, except for the fact you can remove a Cardbus adapter while the 
computer is still running with little trouble.


Thanks for the tip, but I'd still be much more interested in a PCI 
card... although I do have the urge to add a Cardbus adapter later for a 
professional recording Cardbus sound card, so that I can also use the 
card on my laptop. I think that you might have overpaid for that 
PCI=to-Cardbus adaptor though, I could have sworn that I have seen them 
at a lower price before.


Does anybody out there know of some good PCI wireless netowkring cards 
that aren't Atheros-based?


Thanks,
William

Of course, there's also USB Wi-Fi dongles but in my experience those 
don't match the range of cardbus cards (antenna design, or power limits, 
perhaps?).


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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-22 Thread Fernando Cassia 
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, William M. Quarles wrote:

> Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I can
> buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP Atheros-based wireless
> card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus
> DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP Pro and in Fedora 10. Also,
> since I am trying to do a dual-boot setup, I couldn't get good drivers for
> Windows XP for the card. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> William


I don't currently use Wi-Fi on my desktop(s)... since I cabled my home with
five gigabit-ethernet sockets per room. :-)

But when I did use Wi-Fi, I used cardbus cards hooked to pci-to-cardbus
adapters.

Here's some:

Addonics ADPCICB2 - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00023LTKK?ie=UTF8&tag=mnmsprst-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00023LTKK

And
D-Link A/G Wi-Fi Cardbus adapter - $11.78
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFO3C?ie=UTF8&tag=mnmsprst-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0001PFO3C

Total: $60.78

This also gives you the flexibility of exchanging Wi-Fi cards when new
standards arrive, or exchanging cards in case of trouble, without opening up
the case.

(Cardbus cards are, for all intents and purposes, the same as PCI)

Of course, there's also USB Wi-Fi dongles but in my experience those don't
match the range of cardbus cards (antenna design, or power limits,
perhaps?).

FC
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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-22 Thread Bob Goodwin 

William M. Quarles wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:52 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote:

it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2
decoder card


Have you tried the obvious of moving the cards between slots.  Some
conflicts are just because of shared IRQs (some slots share IRQs with
other slots, or other on-board hardware).



Yes, and I have also tried reassigning the IRQs with the BIOS to fully 
make sure that they don't conflict. I still could not get them to work 
together, so I am pretty sure that it is not an IRQ problem. Neither 
OS locks up until it has loaded the drivers for both cards.




i would suggest that you look at wireless Ethernet bridges. I have three 
of them on our home LAN and they are the simplest to configure, no 
drivers needed. I have some brand new PCI card adapters still in the 
boxes, gave up on them long ago.


The Ethernet bridges are configured from your browser. I have one from 
Linksys and two from Buffalo, the latest  "Nfiniti wireless-N dual Band 
Ethernet controller" according to the box which I am looking at as I 
type this. Set one up and you can plug any computer into it, as I said 
no drivers to install, and in fact I have three computers and a laser 
printer connected to the four ports on this newest one.


My 2ยข worth.

Bob

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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-22 Thread William M. Quarles 

Tim wrote:

On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:52 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote:

it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2
decoder card


Have you tried the obvious of moving the cards between slots.  Some
conflicts are just because of shared IRQs (some slots share IRQs with
other slots, or other on-board hardware).



Yes, and I have also tried reassigning the IRQs with the BIOS to fully 
make sure that they don't conflict. I still could not get them to work 
together, so I am pretty sure that it is not an IRQ problem. Neither OS 
locks up until it has loaded the drivers for both cards.


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Re: A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-22 Thread Tim 
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:52 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote:
> it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2
> decoder card

Have you tried the obvious of moving the cards between slots.  Some
conflicts are just because of shared IRQs (some slots share IRQs with
other slots, or other on-board hardware).

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A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10

2009-08-21 Thread William M. Quarles 
Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I 
can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP Atheros-based 
wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic 
Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP Pro and in 
Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot setup, I couldn't 
get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any ideas would be greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks,
William

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