Re: [solved] Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

[Ed Greshko]

Joachim,
>
>
> I downloaded the wrong file (link to video and not the video itself).
> Please apologize for inconvenience.
No problem  I enjoyed the video



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Re: [solved] Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

[Joachim Backes]

On 01/09/2010 12:01 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

Joachim Backes wrote:

On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:


Joachim Backes wrote:

When opening the following website:

  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


you will find on this page a small video pointing to
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
not succeed.

Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.

I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



Hi Ed,

having problems to play this file with mplayer:

mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
control.

Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
Seek failed



Strange  When I used the link to save the file the file name was
Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I move the file to the file name you have and it also played fine

Do you get...

[egres...@f12 misty]$ file Datei\:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video






Hi Ed, my mistake:

I downloaded the wrong file (link to video and not the video itself). 
Please apologize for inconvenience.


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Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

[Ed Greshko]

Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Joachim Backes wrote:
>>> When opening the following website:
>>>
>>>  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,
>>>
>>>
>>> you will find on this page a small video pointing to
>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
>>>
>>> I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.
>>>
>>> But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
>>> shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
>>> not succeed.
>>>
>>> Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.
>> I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine
>>
>> Ed
>>
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> having problems to play this file with mplayer:
>
> mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
> MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> mplayer: could not connect to socket
> mplayer: No such file or directory
> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
> control.
>
> Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
> Seek failed
>
>
Strange  When I used the link to save the file the file name was
Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I move the file to the file name you have and it also played fine

Do you get...

[egres...@f12 misty]$ file Datei\:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video




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Re: [UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

[Joachim Backes]

On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:


Joachim Backes wrote:

When opening the following website:

 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


you will find on this page a small video pointing to
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
not succeed.

Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.

I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



Hi Ed,

having problems to play this file with mplayer:

mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote 
control.


Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
Seek failed


Exiting... (End of file)


Regards

Joachim Backes 

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[UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

[Ed Greshko]

It was not possible to scan this message completely.  You should
not assume that it is free of viruses.
Joachim Backes wrote:
> When opening the following website:
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,
>
>
> you will find on this page a small video pointing to
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
>
> I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.
>
> But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
> shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
> not succeed.
>
> Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.
I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



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Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

[Joachim Backes]

When opening the following website:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


you will find on this page a small video pointing to 
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg


I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as shown 
in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does not succeed.


Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.

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[OT] help with mplayer option to replicate aplay -D option

[Gianluca Cecchi]

Hello,
I have a system based on Asus M4A785TD-V EVO mainboard that comes with
VIA VT1708S chip.
On this system I have both F11 x86_64 and F12 x86_64.
I'm trying to have dts streams working through optical plug that the mb has.

Some progress from F11 to F12, probably due to the alsa version into the kernel
(2.6.31.9-174.fc12 vs 2.6.30.10-105.fc11).
I formerly found another thread opened in 2009 in alsa-user or
alsa-devel where this command was referred as working through optical:

aplay -D iec958:CARD=SB dts_file.wav

- In my F11 this command gives no signal through the receiver

- But now in my F12 this commands succeeds!

My receiver has:
3 leds controlled by a button named "mode": digital, pro logic, st

3 leds controlled by a button named "input": line, optical, coaxial

When I set input button to optical and play the sample dts file with
the command above in F12, the mode led automatically switches to
digital, and a led named "lock" blinks and I get sound through
optical... hurra!
Also, the other leds referring the 5 channels switch on and I hear the
sound through all of the 5 speakers
This works even if pulseaudio is running, so that it is not the
problem (I suspected this when testing in F11)

Now the help required at this point: mplayer

I'm using the one provided by rpmfusion free repo
mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.x86_64

mplayer -ao alsa:spdif with a dts sample file gives no sound in F11
while it "almost" works in F12.
I use almost because when I play the same file as before, the mode led
doesn't go to "digital", but to "st".
I can then press the mode button having it switch to "pro logic" and
again to "st", but not to "digital"
And the sound is not the same as with the aplay command.

Is there an option to give to mplayer to have it use the device that
in aplay is "iec958:CARD=SB"?
It seems I didn't find the right combination.
Or if it is possible to create an entry to add in asound.conf like

pcm.viaspdif {
 something
}

and use then mplayer with a commad such as

mplayer -ao alsa:viaspdif

Thanks in advance to anyone available to give any light

Gianluca

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Re: help

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:42:06PM +, jorge a secas wrote:
> we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
> load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
> error, Anaconda 12.47

What is the error you get in text mode?

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Re: help

[Terry Polzin]

On Friday 08 January 2010 07:04, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
>
> "Joseph L. Casale"  wrote:
> > >we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
> > > load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
> > > error, Anaconda 12.47
> > >
> > >do you have an idea how to solve it?
> >
> > Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
> > Fedora w/ < 1/2gig as well...
>
> Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
> and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
> quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
> boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.
I've tried installing XFCE on f12 lately, and just get a lovely background and 
nothing else.


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Re: help

[Athmane Madjoudj]

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Alan Cox  wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
> "Joseph L. Casale"  wrote:
>
>> >we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
>> >so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
>> >Anaconda 12.47
>> >
>> >do you have an idea how to solve it?
>>
>> Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
>> Fedora w/ < 1/2gig as well...
>
> Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
> and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
> quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
> boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.
>
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Try to use Xfce or LXDE fedora live spins : http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

run them in text mode and launch the installer.

-OR-

transfer the disk image directly to the hard disk.

i was able to run fedora Xfce live on an old p3 1ghz w/ 512mb ram.



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Re: help

[Andrew Haley]

On 01/08/2010 12:04 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
> "Joseph L. Casale"  wrote:
> 
>>> we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
>>> so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
>>> Anaconda 12.47
>>>
>>> do you have an idea how to solve it?
>>
>> Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
>> Fedora w/ < 1/2gig as well...
> 
> Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
> and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
> quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
> boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

That's a really i.nteresting and useful piece of advice that I haven't
heard before.  Thanks a lot, and this needs to be written up on a wall
somewhere.

Andrew.


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Re: help

[Alan Cox]

On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
"Joseph L. Casale"  wrote:

> >we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
> >so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
> >Anaconda 12.47
> >
> >do you have an idea how to solve it?
> 
> Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
> Fedora w/ < 1/2gig as well...

Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

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Re: help

[Kam Leo]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Ralph Blach  wrote:
> On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just fine.
>  This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card.
>
> I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla.
>
> So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in text
> mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want.
>
> Chip.
>
> Tony Nelson wrote:
>>
>> On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode
 doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we
 get the same error, Anaconda 12.47

 do you have an idea how to solve it?
>>>
>>> Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
>>> Fedora w/<  1/2gig as well...
>>
>> Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is
>> required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to
>> use less memory?
>>
>> OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.
>>
>> If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better
>> support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different
>> goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might
>> want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.
>>

Try appending "nomodeset" to grub. You may also need to add "vga=791"
or "vga=ask" to ensure selection of a suitable display driver.

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Re: help

[Ralph Blach]

On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just 
fine.  This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card.


I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla.

So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in 
text mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want.


Chip.

Tony Nelson wrote:

On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:

we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode
doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we
get the same error, Anaconda 12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?


Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
Fedora w/<  1/2gig as well...


Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is
required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to
use less memory?

OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.

If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better
support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different
goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might
want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.



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Re: help

[Tony Nelson]

On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode 
> > doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we 
> > get the same error, Anaconda 12.47
> >
> >do you have an idea how to solve it?
> 
> Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
> Fedora w/ < 1/2gig as well...

Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is 
required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to 
use less memory?

OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.  

If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better 
support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different 
goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might 
want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.

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Re: help

[Paul]

Hi,

> we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
> load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
> error, Anaconda 12.47

Which version of Fedora are you using and what is the video card in the
machines?

TTFN

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RE: help

[Joseph L. Casale]

>we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so 
>we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 
>12.47
>
>do you have an idea how to solve it?

Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
Fedora w/ < 1/2gig as well...

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Re: help

[Chris Smart]

2010/1/8 jorge a secas :
> we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load,
> so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error,
> Anaconda 12.47
>
> do you have an idea how to solve it?
>

I don't know what that error is, but AFAIK the minimum amount of RAM
has changed to more than 256MB, so you won't be able to run the
graphical mode.

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help

[jorge a secas]

we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so 
we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 
12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

[Suvayu Ali]

Hi Gene,

On Sunday 03 January 2010 08:40 PM, Mail Lists wrote:

On 01/03/2010 10:43 PM, suvayu ali wrote:


Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.



  Holy smoke - you're right!!

  I never woulda guessed it would be in /etc ... who would have thunk!!!
Shouldn't it be in /var/lib or whatever?



Technically speaking, all settings stuff go to /etc and the xml files 
would probably be considered settings for the virtual machines.


I would suggest look into the virsh interactive command line to manage 
your virtual machines. Its way more efficient compared to the gui. To 
open one, try `virsh --connect qemu:///system'. You can see all the 
commands with `help' and more specifics about every commands with `help 
'.



  Thank you!



I found this the hard way about a week back. Hope this helps you. And 
Happy New Year to all. :)

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

[Mail Lists]

On 01/03/2010 10:43 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
> Hi Gene,
> 

> Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.
> 

 Holy smoke - you're right!!

 I never woulda guessed it would be in /etc ... who would have thunk!!!
Shouldn't it be in /var/lib or whatever?

 Thank you!

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

[suvayu ali]

Hi Gene,

2010/1/3 Mail Lists :
> On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> the vm ?
>>
>> The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
>> via "virsh dumpxml name > name.xml", then you can recover the
>> machine definition via "virsh define name.xml". If you can still
>> boot f11, that would be the way to go.
>
>  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
> .xml file stored somewhere ?
>
>  I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful
>

Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

[Mail Lists]

  While I am still unable to find the original .xml files on the backup
- I did find a log file in root/.virt-manager which has the xml
definitions from when they were created.

  Then Tom's virsh define should now work if I copy the lines from log
to a .xml file.

   Thanks for help!

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

[Mail Lists]

On 01/03/2010 10:50 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
> Mail Lists wrote:
> 
>>   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
>> .xml file stored somewhere ?
> 
> Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
> where :-). 

  Was hoping someone aside from him/her might know!! I suspect its
buried in the registry somewhere.

>>
If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
> be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
> that way :-).

 I dont have a disk image - i have rdiff-backup's.

> 
> If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
> no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
> definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
> the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
> have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
> docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

  Ug.
> 

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

[Tom Horsley]

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
Mail Lists wrote:

>   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
> .xml file stored somewhere ?

Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
where :-). If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
that way :-).

If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

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On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> the vm ?
> 
> The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
> via "virsh dumpxml name > name.xml", then you can recover the
> machine definition via "virsh define name.xml". If you can still
> boot f11, that would be the way to go.

  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
.xml file stored somewhere ?

 I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful

> 
> The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
> is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
> it gets to the disk image part, say "use existing", then "browse local",
> then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
> the iso image, use "force off", then you should be able to boot
> from the disk image and maybe it will be back.
> 

 Yeh ok .. thanks for your help

 gene

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

[Tom Horsley]

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:33:40 -0500
Mail Llists wrote:

>   What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
> the vm ?

The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
via "virsh dumpxml name > name.xml", then you can recover the
machine definition via "virsh define name.xml". If you can still
boot f11, that would be the way to go.

The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
it gets to the disk image part, say "use existing", then "browse local",
then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
the iso image, use "force off", then you should be able to boot
from the disk image and maybe it will be back.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

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On 01/03/2010 12:33 AM, Mail Llists wrote:
> 
>   I have an image file with everything I need installed on it.
> 
>   It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it).
> 
>   I intalled f12.
> 
>   What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
> the vm ?
> 

 I should add I can run the image fine from command line (qemu-kvm) - I
just dont know how to get it managed by virt-manager again like it was.

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help - recovering virtual machine

[Mail Llists]

  I have an image file with everything I need installed on it.

  It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it).

  I intalled f12.

  What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
the vm ?

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

[Steven W. Orr]

On 12/19/09 18:28, quoth Tony Nelson:
> On 09-12-19 15:27:48, Globe Trotter wrote:
>> --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aldo Foot  wrote:
>  ...
>>> So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
>>>$ rpm -qa tcsh
>> tcsh-6.15-8.fc12
>>
>> Yes, it is!
> 
> Possibly some of the shell scripts used by GDM (or whatever) don't 
> specify the interpreter with a shebang line.  If they're written to 
> assume bash and bash is the default they'll work, but not if tcsh is 
> the default.  If adding a first line of "#!/bin/bash" fixes the 
> problem, file a bug against the relevant package.  (Usually you can 
> find the package with `rpm -qf /path/to/file`.)  Good luck.
> 

I agree that a bug should be filed if that is the problem, but it wouldn't
hurt to also read that old classic

Csh Programming Considered Harmful
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/

Even if it's a bug, hundreds of reasons to not use tcsh in the first place
might make it easier to switch over. I'll even help you rewrite your old login
scripts. :-)

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-12-19 15:27:48, Globe Trotter wrote:
> --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aldo Foot  wrote:
 ...
> > So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
> >    $ rpm -qa tcsh
> 
> tcsh-6.15-8.fc12
> 
> Yes, it is!

Possibly some of the shell scripts used by GDM (or whatever) don't 
specify the interpreter with a shebang line.  If they're written to 
assume bash and bash is the default they'll work, but not if tcsh is 
the default.  If adding a first line of "#!/bin/bash" fixes the 
problem, file a bug against the relevant package.  (Usually you can 
find the package with `rpm -qf /path/to/file`.)  Good luck.

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

[Globe Trotter]

--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aldo Foot  wrote:

> From: Aldo Foot 
> Subject: Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from  
> bash to tcsh
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 2:43 PM
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM,
> Globe Trotter 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all
> right. However, upon changing my login shell from bash to
> tcsh, I can no longer log in using the graphical desktop.
> Specifically I get the message:
> >
> > "Failed to execute login command"
> >
> > After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked
> it down to changing the login shell from bash to tcsh. Any
> suggestions as to how i can have tcsh as well as be able to
> log in?
> >
> > Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE
> spin.
> >
> > Any help is much appreciated!!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > T
> 
> So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
>    $ rpm -qa tcsh

tcsh-6.15-8.fc12

Yes, it is!

Best wishes,
T

> 


  

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

[Phil Meyer]

On 12/18/2009 11:56 AM, Globe Trotter wrote:

Hi,

I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all right. However, upon 
changing my login shell from bash to tcsh, I can no longer log in using the 
graphical desktop. Specifically I get the message:

"Failed to execute login command"

After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked it down to changing the 
login shell from bash to tcsh. Any suggestions as to how i can have tcsh as 
well as be able to log in?

Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE spin.

Any help is much appreciated!!

Best wishes,
T




   


tcsh is no longer installed by default.

From the graphical login screen:



Log in as root:

# yum install tcsh
#exit



You should now be able to login.

Or use: System/Administration/Add-Remove Software
if you have another user available.

Good Luck!

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

[Aldo Foot]

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Globe Trotter  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all right. However, upon 
> changing my login shell from bash to tcsh, I can no longer log in using the 
> graphical desktop. Specifically I get the message:
>
> "Failed to execute login command"
>
> After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked it down to changing 
> the login shell from bash to tcsh. Any suggestions as to how i can have tcsh 
> as well as be able to log in?
>
> Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE spin.
>
> Any help is much appreciated!!
>
> Best wishes,
> T

So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
   $ rpm -qa tcsh

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please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

[Globe Trotter]

Hi,

I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all right. However, upon 
changing my login shell from bash to tcsh, I can no longer log in using the 
graphical desktop. Specifically I get the message: 

"Failed to execute login command"

After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked it down to changing the 
login shell from bash to tcsh. Any suggestions as to how i can have tcsh as 
well as be able to log in?

Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE spin.

Any help is much appreciated!!

Best wishes,
T


  

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help on messages in log

[François Patte]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Bonsoir,

Here is the first line of the boot sequence:

[Firmware Warn]: MTRR: CPU 0: SYSCFG[MtrrFixDramModEn] not cleared by BIOS

And the second line is the same for CPU 1

After that, boot is OK.

What does it mean?

running f12.

I had to add "nomodeset" to the kernel line in grub to prevent a
scramble screen when people log on.


Thanks for lights.

F.P.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Jim]

On 12/16/2009 07:16 AM, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not 
Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer 
and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web 
work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But 
I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. 
I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon

On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

router, computer




If what you say is that you can get some websites but not others ??

You may have a IPV6 problem.

If you use KDE see if Konqueror has the same problem as Firefox.

I have attached some instructions, follow the instructions on firefox , 
near bottom of page.


If you have problems with Konqueror or performing a rpm -ivh http:// *
follow all of the instructions.
1.  Q: Networking (or DNS) seems really slow and fails often (Updated 2 January 
2009)
A: If Fedora 10's networking seems slow or you get frequent network connection 
failures (when other Fedoras or other OSes were working just fine on your 
machine), then you're probably hitting this bug.

Here's how you can work around it:

   1. Open a Terminal.
   2. Become root:

  su -
   3. Make sure that the "dnsmasq" program is installed (it usually is, by 
default, in Fedora 10):

  rpm -q dnsmasq

  If that says "package dnsmasq is not installed", then you need to install 
dnsmasq, by running the following command:

  yum install dnsmasq
   4. Now, you have to find out which network interface your machine is using:

  route -n

  You'll see some output that looks like this:

  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 
0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

  The eth0 there (the furthest bottom-right text in the output) is the name 
of the network interface I'm using. Yours might be eth1 or something totally 
different. Just remember it for the next step.
   5. Now create a file called /etc/dhclient-.conf. For 
example, if your network interface is eth0, the file would be called 
/etc/dhclient-eth0.conf.

  You can create the file with this command (assuming your network 
interface is eth0):

  nano /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf

  Then make this the only line in the file:

  prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;

  And then save the file and close it (Ctrl-X then Y).

  If you have both a wireless and a wired network connection, you will have 
to do this step once for each of them.
   6. Now start dnsmasq:

  service dnsmasq start

  And make sure that it will start every time your computer starts:

  chkconfig dnsmasq on
   7. Now restart your network connection:

  service NetworkManager restart

And now things should be as fast as normal again. You might have to restart the 
programs that you're running for them to pick up the changes that 
NetworkManager made when it restarted.



2.  * IPv6
You might notice that your browsing through Firefox is a little slow on Fedora 
10. This is because Firefox 3 has enabled by default IPv6 which causes Firefox 
to first resolve an IPv6 address and after the connection fails it switches to 
IPv4. To change this setting type:

about:config


and in Filter box type:

network.dns.disableIPv6


Right click on it, select Toggle and change its value to true. Restart Firefox 
and you are ready! 




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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Aaron Gray]

2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli 

> No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else:
>
> Here's what happens:
> - I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and Thunderbird
> can not connect to the wireless but Opera can.
> - I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or without
> firewall.
> - I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both
> programs do connect properly.
>
> ???
>
>
Sounds like a DNS problem again.

Aaron


> Simon
>
>
> On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..
>>
>>
>> _
>>
>> The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
>> firewall configuration ?
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> 2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli > simon.schneeb...@okko.org>>
>>
>>
>> Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
>> Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
>> wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
>> don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
>> probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
>> time this evening to work more on it.
>>
>> Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
>> wireless that blocs some connections.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:
>>
>> On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:
>>
>> May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
>> lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
>>
>> To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some
>> of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a
>> added
>> router, computer
>>
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else:

Here's what happens:
- I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and 
Thunderbird can not connect to the wireless but Opera can.
- I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or 
without firewall.
- I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both 
programs do connect properly.


???

Simon

On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote:


Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..

_

The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your 
firewall configuration ?


Aaron

2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli >


Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not 
Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer 
and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web 
work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But 
I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. 
I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon



On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

router, computer


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RE: Help: No internet connection

[Ishmael Chibvuri]

Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..


_

The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
firewall configuration ?

 

Aaron

 

2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli 

Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
time this evening to work more on it.

Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
wireless that blocs some connections.

Simon



On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of
these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added
router, computer


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Aaron Gray]

The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
firewall configuration ?

Aaron


2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli 

> Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
> Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
> wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
> don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
> probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
> time this evening to work more on it.
>
> Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
> wireless that blocs some connections.
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:
>
>> On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:
>>
>>> May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
>>> lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
>>>
>> To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some
>> of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a
>> added
>> router, computer
>>
>>
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, 
Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my 
wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I 
just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree 
that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope 
that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon

On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Jim]

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
   
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# 
from a added

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Robert Collard]

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it 
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Mikkel]

On 12/15/2009 03:32 PM, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
> 
> I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The
> problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I
> start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem
> when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today.
> That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and
> the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem
> configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some
> sleep from time to time ;-)
> 
> Simon
> 
This sounds more like a problem in your wireless settings. What type
of wireless security are you using on your wireless modem? It sounds
like your brother has an open system. Starbucks would also have an
open system. It may require something more after you can access the
Internet, but connecting to the wireless access point does not
require your system to have a wireless key before hand.

One other thing that can bite you when using WEP is if your system
will not give an IP address until you establish an encrypted
connection. I have not seen the option in Network Manager for the
iwconfig key restricted parameter. (Though you can add it.)

Mikkel
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

On 12/15/2009 04:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:

On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote:
   

I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
post "Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !", Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
the passing remark "I didn't have video or a network connection at first
boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
and pretty much everything is golden."

He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
could your problem be the same as his "Somehow DHCP was disabled for
eth0."

Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.

 

Well, one way would be to run System -->  Preferences -->  Network
Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under
both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP.
If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and
pick Edit Connections.

Mikkel
   


I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The 
problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I 
start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem 
when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today. 
That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and 
the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem 
configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some 
sleep from time to time ;-)


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Andrews]

On 11/12/2009 23:27, Simon Schneebeli wrote:

Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Simon Schneebeli writes:

Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection
with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired
connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme
manage to establish a connection.


Define "ping works".

If I type at the command line "ping google.com" it gets an answer...


OK.  If you're getting a positive response from that command then your 
basic network connection, DNS and routing must all be working.  There 
isn't much more to go wrong.


What do you get if you type:

wget www.google.com

into a shell?

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Mikkel]

On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote:
> 
> I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
> knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
> post "Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !", Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
> the passing remark "I didn't have video or a network connection at first
> boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
> and pretty much everything is golden."
> 
> He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
> could your problem be the same as his "Somehow DHCP was disabled for
> eth0."
> 
> Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.
> 
Well, one way would be to run System --> Preferences --> Network
Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under
both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP.
If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and
pick Edit Connections.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Axel Thimm]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 09:09:32PM +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
> 
> On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote:
> >On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
> >>On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> >>As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
> >>happy. So let's give it a try:
> >>
> >>I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/
> >>
> >>It tells me the following:
> >>python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
> >>(/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)
> >>
> >>So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/
> >>
> >>Test Transaction Errors:   file
> >>/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from
> >>install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
> >>package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386

urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 is not part of a Fedora repo, browsing the net
indicates that this is from opensuse?

You should uninstall urwid, point yum to ATrpms and just yum install
wicd (if you want to use wicd).

> >Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
> >is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
> >until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Actually this is about mixing Fedora and opensuse, there third party
repo usage just uncovered this.

> My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if
> there is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this
> could help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a
> try.
> 
> Simon
> 

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[William Case]

Hi Simon;

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 23:27 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
> On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> > Simon wrote:
> >

I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
post "Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !", Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
the passing remark "I didn't have video or a network connection at first
boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
and pretty much everything is golden."

He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
could your problem be the same as his "Somehow DHCP was disabled for
eth0."

Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[R. G. Newbury]

Simon wrote:
>> > >As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always 
quite

> > happy. So let's give it a try:
> > 
>> > >My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
>> > >Simon
> > Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the
> > universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!

>My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong:

Not really. Your ifconfig output shows that your machine knows it has 2 
interfaces, and it appears that both are connecting and getting IP 
addresses from the router (unless you have set them both static: you did 
not say. But wired works, so now there is just the wireless setup!


[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install>
Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd')
Using pid path wicd.pid
Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi
nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE
de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id
tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT
running install
error: invalid Python installation: unable to open
/usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

You are not *doing* anything wrong, but something *IS* wrong.
Check that you have a /usr/lib/python2.6 folder. It should exist, as 
should the config subfolder. Does on my F12 install.

If it does not, then
'yum install python python-devel'
And re-try the wicd install.

The other route is to go back to NetworkManager. It is already installed 
and should work (in its inimitable obscure fashion).


Since you do not have wicd in the way, then:
chkconfig wpa_supplicant on
chkconfig NetworkManager on

Disconnect the wired connection and re-boot. Then 'system-config-network'
and check that the wireless card is properly defined. NM should find the 
wlan0 interface, and connect.

As noted before, this works best if encryption is turned off at this stage.
(I cannot remember if network services are supposed to on, or off. But 
NetworkManager deals with that)

You are almost there!

Geoff











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Re: Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 08:18 -0500, William W. Austin wrote:
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry if this sounds glib, but the suggestion that comes to mind is
"install F12". FC3 and FC4 are ancient systems, long past their
shelflife and completely unsupported (including for security updates).

poc

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Re: Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

[Kevin J. Cummings]

On 12/15/2009 02:25 AM, Jatin K wrote:
> Question is asked in Feb 2006 ...!! :-)

Which would have been the correct timeframe for moving an FC3 system to
FC4.  At that time FC5 was the new release.  I know, I had a system
which had to jump from FC3 to FC5 after FC3 hit EOL.

> Dear Mr. William
> 
> please check the date of you computer

Stranger things have happened.  Perhaps it was lost in a machine that
has only recently been rebootedand its sendmail queue finally got
flushed?

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Re: Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

[Jatin K]

On 02/27/2006 06:48 PM, William W. Austin wrote:


I had to replace a disk (the one with all of the home directories on 
it) on an FC3 box, and so I bought a new drive (particulars unimportant).


To make a long story short, I decided to put FC4 on this box, and so I 
installed the new drive and put the root filesystem on it.  I still 
have the old FC3 root drive and can boot to either for comparison...


Under FC3, I have no network problems that I can detect; however, 
under FC4 there are two distinct (related? no idea) problems which 
have eluded me.  I have tried looking up both of these in the 
archives, but have had no luck (some similar issues, but nothing 
exactly like either of these unless I missed them).


Problem 1: network card goes to sleep.

This machine has 2 network cards, both on-board.  The 1GB card L(Intel 
82540EM) goes to the smartswitch to tolk to the local network, and 
does not show any problems.
The other card (nVidia nForce2) is a 100MB card and talks to the DSL 
modem.  Periodically I cannot connect to the internet at all - or even 
ping the DSL modem.  This happens irregularly but about 5-10 
times/day. If I reboot back to FC3, the problem does not occur.  
Network configurations between the two (FC3/FC4) are as identical as I 
can make them.  The first few times the problem occurs, sometimes 
retarting networking works, but eventually a full sys reboot is the 
only thing which works.


Problem 2: slow local network.

Under FC3 throughput on the LOCAL network (1GB lan) is very fast.  
Under FC4, the best I have seen is ONE transfer of about 1.2 MB/s - 
and throughput drops to as low as 50-75KB/s at times.  Again, this 
does not occur under FC3 but does under FC4.  Again the same setup as 
nearly as I can make it.  No workaround found so far.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Question is asked in Feb 2006 ...!! :-)

Dear Mr. William

please check the date of you computer

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Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

[William W. Austin]

I had to replace a disk (the one with all of the home directories on  
it) on an FC3 box, and so I bought a new drive (particulars  
unimportant).


To make a long story short, I decided to put FC4 on this box, and so I  
installed the new drive and put the root filesystem on it.  I still  
have the old FC3 root drive and can boot to either for comparison...


Under FC3, I have no network problems that I can detect; however, under  
FC4 there are two distinct (related? no idea) problems which have  
eluded me.  I have tried looking up both of these in the archives, but  
have had no luck (some similar issues, but nothing exactly like either  
of these unless I missed them).


Problem 1: network card goes to sleep.

This machine has 2 network cards, both on-board.  The 1GB card L(Intel  
82540EM) goes to the smartswitch to tolk to the local network, and does  
not show any problems.
The other card (nVidia nForce2) is a 100MB card and talks to the DSL  
modem.  Periodically I cannot connect to the internet at all - or even  
ping the DSL modem.  This happens irregularly but about 5-10 times/day.  
If I reboot back to FC3, the problem does not occur.  Network  
configurations between the two (FC3/FC4) are as identical as I can make  
them.  The first few times the problem occurs, sometimes retarting  
networking works, but eventually a full sys reboot is the only thing  
which works.


Problem 2: slow local network.

Under FC3 throughput on the LOCAL network (1GB lan) is very fast.   
Under FC4, the best I have seen is ONE transfer of about 1.2 MB/s - and  
throughput drops to as low as 50-75KB/s at times.  Again, this does not  
occur under FC3 but does under FC4.  Again the same setup as nearly as  
I can make it.  No workaround found so far.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/12/14 Simon Schneebeli :
> /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

[...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum provides /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

python-devel-2.6.2-2.fc12.i686 : The libraries and header files needed for
   : Python development.
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

You'll need to install this package first ^

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

>As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:

>My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
>Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make && make install. That avoids the sort 
of conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure 
the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 
'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop 
icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then 
add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff



My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong:

[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install
Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd')
Using pid path wicd.pid
Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi 
nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE 
de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id 
tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT

running install
error: invalid Python installation: unable to open 
/usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]#



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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

Simon wrote:

> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
> > problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the 
additional

> > programs I needed and install the latest updates.
>

>Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added
>the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't 
>work.


I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work".

>Here's what I get with ifconfig.

>[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
>eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
   inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  
Mask:255.255.255.0

   inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
   Memory:fe20-fe22

We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' 
   give?

[si...@sangam ~]$ ifconfig wlan0
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:E8:82:76:33
  inet addr:192.168.1.34  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::213:e8ff:fe82:7633/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:6453 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:429676 (419.6 KiB)  TX bytes:13316 (13.0 KiB)

[si...@sangam ~]$



>And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

>[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0

*This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH 
interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it 
does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of 
problem, probably related to security or encryption.



>As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:

>My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
>Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make && make install. That avoids the sort 
of conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure 
the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 
'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop 
icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then 
add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff







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Re: Help: No internet connection

[R. G. Newbury]

Simon wrote:

> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
> > problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the 
additional

> > programs I needed and install the latest updates.
>

>Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added
>the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't 
>work.


I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work".

>Here's what I get with ifconfig.

>[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
>eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
   inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
   Memory:fe20-fe22

We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' 
   give?


>And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

>[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0

*This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH 
interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it 
does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of 
problem, probably related to security or encryption.



>As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:

>My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
>Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make && make install. That avoids the sort of 
conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure the 
wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 'chkconfig wicd 
on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop icon for wicd-client, 
and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then add 
MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff





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Re: Help: No internet connection

[H. Willstrand]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Simon Schneebeli
 wrote:
> Here's what I get with ifconfig.
>>>
>>> [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
>>> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
>>>          inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>>>          inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
>>>          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>>          RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>>          TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>>          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>>>          RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
>>>          Memory:fe20-fe22
>>>
>>> And here is what I get with netstat -rn:
>>>
>>> [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
>>> Kernel IP routing table
>>> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt
>>> Iface
>>> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
>>> eth0
>>> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
>>> wlan0
>>>
>>
>> This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0
>>
>> Please stop one of the network cards to verify.
>>
>> //HW
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0
>>> eth0
>>
> Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ??
>

According to the netstat -rn command you have wireless (wlan0) and LAN
(eth0), both using the same network 192.168.1.0.
Stop one of the cards via NetworkManager and see if Firefox starts to work..

//HW
> Simon
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
   

On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
 
   

As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:

I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

It tells me the following:
python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
(/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)

So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/

Test Transaction Errors:   file
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of
python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file...

My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
 


Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Craig


   
My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if there 
is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this could 
help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a try.


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
  inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
  Memory:fe20-fe22

And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
 

This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0

Please stop one of the network cards to verify.

//HW

   

0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0



Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ??

Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Craig White]

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
> On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

> As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite 
> happy. So let's give it a try:
> 
> I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/
> 
> It tells me the following:
> python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 
> (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)
> 
> So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/
> 
> Test Transaction Errors:   file 
> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from 
> install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
> package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
>file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install 
> of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
> urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
>file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install 
> of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
> urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
>file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of 
> python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
> urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
>file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install 
> of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
> urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
>file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from 
> install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
> package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
>file...
> 
> My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...

Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Craig


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[H. Willstrand]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Simon Schneebeli
 wrote:
>
> On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
>>
>>>>>> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
>>>>>> problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
>>>>>> programs I needed and install the latest updates.
>>
>>>> RPM: "Couldn't resolve host"
>>>>
>>>> To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
>>>> seconds like the server doesn't answer...
>>>
>>> What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
>>> NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
>>> connection is offline.
>>
>> Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS
>> server(s).
>>
>> Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions
>> on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number of
>> DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not over
>> that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility
>> given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO
>> security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.
>>
>> Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS
>> server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie
>> 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try
>> settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will not
>> help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.
>>
>> At a console enter:
>> 'service NetWorkManager stop'
>> 'service wpa_supplicant stop'
>> 'service ip6tables stop'
>>
>> With a WIRED connection ONLY:
>> 'service iptables restart'
>> 'service network restart'
>>
>> This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want in
>> the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.
>>
>> Then:
>> 'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
>> "inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0"
>> If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.
>>
>> If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your
>> router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. If
>> that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of the
>> programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)
>>
>> If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely the
>> wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the network
>> setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this case).
>>
>> If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping
>> externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired
>> connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to a
>> DHCP IP scheme).
>>
>> And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd (at
>> wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works at least
>> as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and control structure
>> and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired connections, such as
>> you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this it helps if you use
>> 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC address and delivers an
>> address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP request from the laptop etc.
>>
>> Geoff
>
> Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added the
> DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work.
>
> Here's what I get with ifconfig.
>
> [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
>          inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>          inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
>          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>          RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>          TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>          RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 Ki

Re: Help: No internet connection

[Simon Schneebeli]

On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:



At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.



RPM: "Couldn't resolve host"

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after 
some

seconds like the server doesn't answer...


What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.


Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS 
server(s).


Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access 
restrictions on your router, and in particular that you have not 
limited the number of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, 
and that you are not over that limit. (Been *there*...real 
hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility given that you got things 
to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO security settings 
enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.


Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network 
(ie 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to 
try settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This 
will not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.


At a console enter:
'service NetWorkManager stop'
'service wpa_supplicant stop'
'service ip6tables stop'

With a WIRED connection ONLY:
'service iptables restart'
'service network restart'

This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.


Then:
'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
"inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0"
If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever 
your router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping 
yahoo.com'. If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the 
configuration of the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in 
Firefox)


If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for 
this case).


If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert 
to a DHCP IP scheme).


And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
(at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It 
works at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup 
and control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and 
wired connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. 
For this it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the 
MAC address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
request from the laptop etc.


Geoff


Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added 
the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work.


Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
  inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
  Memory:fe20-fe22

And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt 
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 
eth0



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite 
happy. So let's give it a try:


I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

It tells me the following:
python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 
(/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)


So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/

Test Transa

Re: Help: No internet connection

[Rick Sewill]

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 11:58 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: 
> >>> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
> 
> >>>> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
> >>>> problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
> >>>> programs I needed and install the latest updates.
> 
> >> RPM: "Couldn't resolve host"
> >>
> >> To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
> >> seconds like the server doesn't answer...
> > 
> > What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
> > NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
> > connection is offline.
> 
> Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s).
> 
> Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions 
> on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number 
> of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not 
> over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely 
> possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. 
> Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.
> 
> Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
> DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 
> 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try 
> settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will 
> not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.
> 
> At a console enter:
> 'service NetWorkManager stop'
> 'service wpa_supplicant stop'
> 'service ip6tables stop'
> 
> With a WIRED connection ONLY:
> 'service iptables restart'
> 'service network restart'
> 
> This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
> in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.
> 
> Then:
> 'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
> "inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0"
> If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.
> 
> If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your 
> router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. 
> If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of 
> the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)
> 
> If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
> the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
> network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this 
> case).
> 
> If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
> externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
> connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to 
> a DHCP IP scheme).
> 
> And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
> (at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works 
> at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and 
> control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired 
> connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this 
> it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC 
> address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
> request from the laptop etc.
> 
> Geoff

Also, please do "netstat -rn" to see your routing table on your PC.
You indicated you could ping an Internet address,
when you type ping www.xxx.yyy.zzz, which led me to believe 
you have a default route pointing to your router, but I would check.
You may have other routes in your routing table, which explicitly 
route certain IP address ranges to the wrong gateway IP address.
"netstat -rn" should give us the needed routing table information.

-Rick

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 18:01 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote:
> > At a console enter:
> > 'service NetWorkManager stop'
> 
> I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w 
> compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to 
> problems if one is not careful. :-)


I hate this kind of nonsense. Either the basic utilities (including yum,
rpm, repoquery etc.) should be case-insensitive (which wouldn't be Unixy
enough for some people) or the packages should use only lower-case
names. Lower case is good enough for the frakking *kernel* ferchrissake.
What makes NM so special?


poc

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote:
> At a console enter:
> 'service NetWorkManager stop'

I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w 
compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to 
problems if one is not careful. :-)

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[R. G. Newbury]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:



At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.



RPM: "Couldn't resolve host"

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
seconds like the server doesn't answer...


What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.


Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s).

Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions 
on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number 
of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not 
over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely 
possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. 
Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.


Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 
192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try 
settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will 
not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.


At a console enter:
'service NetWorkManager stop'
'service wpa_supplicant stop'
'service ip6tables stop'

With a WIRED connection ONLY:
'service iptables restart'
'service network restart'

This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.


Then:
'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
"inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0"
If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your 
router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. 
If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of 
the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)


If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this 
case).


If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to 
a DHCP IP scheme).


And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
(at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works 
at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and 
control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired 
connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this 
it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC 
address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
request from the laptop etc.


Geoff












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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

Quoting Rick Sewill :


On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Quoting "H. Willstrand" :

> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,   wrote:
>> I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
>> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "write access on sysctl.conf
>> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "setattr" access on sysctl.conf.
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access to
>> /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "write" access to
>> /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home.
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home/Simon
>>
>
> Nope...
>
> Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
> 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
> which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.
>
I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this
morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.

I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS
numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.

Thanks anyway for your help.

Simon




Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1?

Did you say you were using a DSL router?

Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1?

You also say everything works fine at your brother's place.

Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic?
Can you check your DSL router configuration, please?




I just tried with the live CD where I had the same problem.

Furthermore I got the right DNS which is 195.186.1.111 and  
195.186.4.111. And yes, I'm using a wireless DSL router (Motorola).  
What could be the configuration problem with the DSL router? I never  
change anything there and used it without any difficulties previously  
on Ubuntu. But in the same time it somehow seams obvious that it has  
to be linked to that since at my brother's place (with another service  
provider) everything worked fine.



Simon
(getting desperate).


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

Quoting Rick Sewill :


On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Quoting "H. Willstrand" :

> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,   wrote:
>> I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
>> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "write access on sysctl.conf
>> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "setattr" access on sysctl.conf.
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access to
>> /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "write" access to
>> /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home.
>> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home/Simon
>>
>
> Nope...
>
> Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
> 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
> which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.
>
I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this
morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.

I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS
numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.

Thanks anyway for your help.

Simon




Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1?

Did you say you were using a DSL router?

Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1?

You also say everything works fine at your brother's place.

Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic?
Can you check your DSL router configuration, please?

Need to go sleeping now (it's 1:30 am already here in Switzerland).  
I'll check out the DSL router configuration tomorrow. But what I can  
already say is that with Ubuntu (which I used until Fryday evening), I  
never had any problem, so I would be surprised if it's that.


Simon




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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Rick Sewill]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: 
> Quoting "H. Willstrand" :
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,   wrote:
> >> I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
> >> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "write access on sysctl.conf
> >> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "setattr" access on sysctl.conf.
> >> - SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access to
> >> /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
> >> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "write" access to
> >> /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
> >> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home.
> >> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home/Simon
> >>
> >
> > Nope...
> >
> > Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
> > 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
> > which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.
> >
> I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this  
> morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.
> 
> I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS  
> numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.
> 
> Thanks anyway for your help.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 

Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1?

Did you say you were using a DSL router?

Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1?

You also say everything works fine at your brother's place.

Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic?
Can you check your DSL router configuration, please?


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

Quoting "H. Willstrand" :


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,   wrote:

I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "write access on sysctl.conf
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "setattr" access on sysctl.conf.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access to
/var/lib/misc/prelink.full
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "write" access to
/var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home/Simon



Nope...

Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.

I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this  
morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.


I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS  
numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.


Thanks anyway for your help.

Simon


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[H. Willstrand]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,   wrote:
> I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "write access on sysctl.conf
> - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "setattr" access on sysctl.conf.
> - SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access to
> /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "write" access to
> /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home.
> - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home/Simon
>

Nope...

Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.

I wild guess, something went wrong with Firefox, libc (which
implements DNS-lookup) or you might have lost a track on your hard
disk.
I have no clue...

If possible, try a LIVE USB-stick to see if the issue is still there.

//HW


> Quoting "H. Willstrand" :
>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM,   wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send
>>>>> these
>>>>> e-mails) as does Skype.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
>>>> Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
>>>> NetworkManager.
>>>>
>>>>> As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers
>>>>> place:
>>>>> It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any
>>>>> details.
>>>>
>>>> What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
>>>> Wireless, Wired etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
>>> - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
>>> - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
>>> - No proxi, DHCP
>>>
>>> Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:
>>>
>>> [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
>>> Server:                192.168.1.1
>>> Address:        192.168.1.1#53
>>>
>>> Non-authoritative answer:
>>> download.fedoraproject.org        canonical name =
>>> wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
>>> Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
>>> Address: 66.35.62.166
>>> Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
>>> Address: 80.239.156.215
>>> Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
>>> Address: 152.46.7.222
>>>
>>> And if I directly type "firefox 66.35.62.166", I get to
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he
>>> means that this might be a problem with DNS...
>>>
>>
>> Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar?
>>
>> //HW
>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>> I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
>>>> we can help ;o)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "write access on sysctl.conf
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "setattr" access on sysctl.conf.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access to  
/var/lib/misc/prelink.full
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "write" access to  
/var/lib/misc/prelink.quick

- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash "search" access to /home/Simon

Quoting "H. Willstrand" :


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM,   wrote:




As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
e-mails) as does Skype.


I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
NetworkManager.


As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers
place:
It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any
details.


What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
Wireless, Wired etc.



Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
- Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
- I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
- No proxi, DHCP

Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:

[si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
Server:                192.168.1.1
Address:        192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
download.fedoraproject.org        canonical name =
wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 66.35.62.166
Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 80.239.156.215
Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 152.46.7.222

And if I directly type "firefox 66.35.62.166", I get to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he
means that this might be a problem with DNS...



Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar?

//HW


Simon


I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
we can help ;o)





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Re: Help: No internet connection

[H. Willstrand]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM,   wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
>>> e-mails) as does Skype.
>>
>> I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
>> Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
>> NetworkManager.
>>
>>> As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers
>>> place:
>>> It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any
>>> details.
>>
>> What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
>> Wireless, Wired etc.
>>
>
> Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
> - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
> - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
> - No proxi, DHCP
>
> Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:
>
> [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
> Server:                192.168.1.1
> Address:        192.168.1.1#53
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> download.fedoraproject.org        canonical name =
> wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
> Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
> Address: 66.35.62.166
> Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
> Address: 80.239.156.215
> Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
> Address: 152.46.7.222
>
> And if I directly type "firefox 66.35.62.166", I get to
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he
> means that this might be a problem with DNS...
>

Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar?

//HW

> Simon
>
>> I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
>> we can help ;o)
>>
>
>
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[H. Willstrand]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:07 AM,   wrote:
>

>>>
>>> What's that magic trick? I get to
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin
>>> and can surf around there without a problem. Magic?
>>>
>>
>> It's seams to be an DNS issue. FF fails to lookup the IP-number.
>> During the installation of Fedora, did you got any errors?
>>
>> //HW
>
> I'm not aware of any errors during the installation.
>
> However, in SELinux Troubleshooter, I have this error message that might be
> linked to this problem:
>
>
> Summary:
>
> SELinux is preventing /bin/find "getattr" access to
> /var/lib/misc/prelink.full.
>
> Detailed Description:
>
> [find has a permissive type (prelink_cron_system_t). This access was not
> denied.]
>
> SELinux denied access requested by find. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full may be a
> mislabeled. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full default SELinux type is
> prelink_var_lib_t,
> but its current type is cron_var_lib_t. Changing this file back to the
> default
> type, may fix your problem.
>
> File contexts can be assigned to a file in the following ways.
>
>  * Files created in a directory receive the file context of the parent
>    directory by default.
>  * The SELinux policy might override the default label inherited from the
>    parent directory by specifying a process running in context A which
> creates
>    a file in a directory labeled B will instead create the file with label
> C.
>    An example of this would be the dhcp client running with the dhclient_t
> type
>    and creating a file in the directory /etc. This file would normally
> receive
>    the etc_t type due to parental inheritance but instead the file is
> labeled
>    with the net_conf_t type because the SELinux policy specifies this.
>  * Users can change the file context on a file using tools such as chcon, or
>    restorecon.
>
> This file could have been mislabeled either by user error, or if an normally
> confined application was run under the wrong domain.
>
> However, this might also indicate a bug in SELinux because the file should
> not
> have been labeled with this type.
>
> If you believe this is a bug, please file a bug report against this package.
>
> Allowing Access:
>
> You can restore the default system context to this file by executing the
> restorecon command. restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full', if this file is
> a
> directory, you can recursively restore using restorecon -R
> '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full'.
>
> Fix Command:
>
> /sbin/restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full'
>
> Additional Information:
>
> Source Context
>  system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c
>                              1023
> Target Context                system_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0
> Target Objects                /var/lib/misc/prelink.full [ file ]
> Source                        find
> Source Path                   /bin/find
> Port                          
> Host                          sangam
> Source RPM Packages           findutils-4.4.2-4.fc12
> Target RPM Packages           prelink-0.4.2-4.fc12
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.6.32-55.fc12
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   restorecon
> Host Name                     sangam
> Platform                      Linux sangam 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP
> Wed
>                              Dec 9 11:00:30 EST 2009 i686 i686
> Alert Count                   1
> First Seen                    Sun 13 Dec 2009 01:25:21 PM CET
> Last Seen                     Sun 13 Dec 2009 01:25:21 PM CET
> Local ID                      3eb8c967-bfe5-483b-89c7-9773eacbb4cf
> Line Numbers
>
> Raw Audit Messages
>
> node=sangam type=AVC msg=audit(1260707121.819:25385): avc:  denied  {
> getattr } for  pid=11599 comm="find" path="/var/lib/misc/prelink.full"
> dev=dm-0 ino=2097510
> scontext=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=file
>
> node=sangam type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1260707121.819:25385): arch=4003
> syscall=300 success=yes exit=0 a0=ff9c a1=96c3704 a2=96c36a4 a3=100
> items=0 ppid=11598 pid=11599 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0
> sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4 comm="find" exe="/bin/find"
> subj=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
>
>
>
>
>
No, I don't think this is relevant...

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
e-mails) as does Skype.


I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
NetworkManager.


As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place:
It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details.


What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
Wireless, Wired etc.



Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
- Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
- I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
- No proxi, DHCP

Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:

[si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
Server:192.168.1.1
Address:192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
download.fedoraproject.orgcanonical name = wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 66.35.62.166
Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 80.239.156.215
Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 152.46.7.222

And if I directly type "firefox 66.35.62.166", I get to  
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So  
he means that this might be a problem with DNS...


Simon


I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
we can help ;o)





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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/12/13  :
> Q
>>
>> What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
>> NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
>> connection is offline.
>>
>> Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your
>> network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's
>> different between your network when at your Brother's house?
>>
>> More info please...
>>
>
> As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
> e-mails) as does Skype.

I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
NetworkManager.

> As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place:
> It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details.

What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
Wireless, Wired etc.

I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
we can help ;o)

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

Q

What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.

Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your
network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's
different between your network when at your Brother's house?

More info please...



As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send  
these e-mails) as does Skype.


As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers  
place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know  
any details.


To mention that my internet connection worked perfectly well under  
Ubuntu (that is before I installed Fedora).


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/12/13  :
> Quoting Aaron Konstam :
>
>> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being
>>> down. Meanwhile I made some progress:
>>>
>>> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
>>> problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
>>> programs I needed and install the latest updates.
>>>
>>> Now, back home, my problem is the following:
>>> - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
>>> the server)
>>> - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.
>>
>> It would be nice to have an expanded version of "DoES NOT WORK"
>> What happens when you try Firrefox, for example?
>
> Firefox: I immediately get the message "Server not found, Firefox can't find
> the server at [webpage].
>
> Thunderbird: "failed to connect to server [name of server]
>
> Evolution: "Error while fetching mail".
>
> RPM: "Couldn't resolve host"
>
> To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
> seconds like the server doesn't answer...

What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.

Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your
network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's
different between your network when at your Brother's house?

More info please...

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[H. Willstrand]

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:00 PM,   wrote:
> Quoting Aaron Konstam :
>
>> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being
>>> down. Meanwhile I made some progress:
>>>
>>> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
>>> problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
>>> programs I needed and install the latest updates.
>>>
>>> Now, back home, my problem is the following:
>>> - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
>>> the server)
>>> - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.
>>
>> It would be nice to have an expanded version of "DoES NOT WORK"
>> What happens when you try Firrefox, for example?
>
> Firefox: I immediately get the message "Server not found, Firefox can't find
> the server at [webpage].
>
> Thunderbird: "failed to connect to server [name of server]
>
> Evolution: "Error while fetching mail".
>
> RPM: "Couldn't resolve host"
>

What is the respons if you try:
nslookup download.fedoraproject.org

//HW

> To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
> seconds like the server doesn't answer...
>
> Simon
>
>>>
>>> I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had
>>> since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

Quoting Aaron Konstam :


On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Hello all,

My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being
down. Meanwhile I made some progress:

At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.

Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
the server)
- DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

It would be nice to have an expanded version of "DoES NOT WORK"
What happens when you try Firrefox, for example?


Firefox: I immediately get the message "Server not found, Firefox  
can't find the server at [webpage].


Thunderbird: "failed to connect to server [name of server]

Evolution: "Error while fetching mail".

RPM: "Couldn't resolve host"

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after  
some seconds like the server doesn't answer...


Simon



I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had
since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.

Simon


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: 
> Hello all,
> 
> My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being  
> down. Meanwhile I made some progress:
> 
> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no  
> problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional  
> programs I needed and install the latest updates.
> 
> Now, back home, my problem is the following:
> - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to  
> the server)
> - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.
It would be nice to have an expanded version of "DoES NOT WORK"
What happens when you try Firrefox, for example? 
> 
> I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had  
> since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.
> 
> Simon
> 
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Suvayu Ali]

On Sunday 13 December 2009 12:35 PM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
the server)
- DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

Could it be that IPV6 thing? I think recently another user had a similar 
problem with firefox, and it turned out to be IPV6 related. It would be 
worth a try to check that.


Just a thought.
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

Quoting "H. Willstrand" :


On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM,   wrote:

Hello all,

My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down.
Meanwhile I made some progress:

At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem.
All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed
and install the latest updates.

Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the
server)


What is your proxy settings in FF?
(Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Network->Settings->"Configure proxies to
access the Internet"

//HW

Already checked that. No proxi in use (never did).

An additional information: The message "Server not found" pops up  
immediately. I have the impression that it blocks somewhere on my  
computer or at the modem...


Any idea?

Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

[H. Willstrand]

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM,   wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down.
> Meanwhile I made some progress:
>
> At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem.
> All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed
> and install the latest updates.
>
> Now, back home, my problem is the following:
> - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the
> server)

What is your proxy settings in FF?
(Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Network->Settings->"Configure proxies to
access the Internet"

//HW

> - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.
>
> I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had since
> I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.
>
> Simon
>
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Aaron Gray]

2009/12/11 Simon Schneebeli 

> Hello all,
>
> After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided to
> give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything was
> perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to connect
> to the internet.
>
> Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my
> wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works.
> But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a
> connection.
>
> Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional information.
> Which one exactly?
>
> To be more precise: It is a completly fresh install of Fedora 12 on a
> Thinkpad T61. I didn't change anything in the network configuration except
> that I put the password for my wireless connection.
>

I have this same problem quite often but am not with my Fedora machine so
cannot give precise instructions.

Try left or right clicking on the icon on the top right of the screen and
look at the options.

I remember having to fill in my MAC address into a field as a new
connection.

Best of luck,

Aaron
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Re: Help: No internet connection

[simon . schneebeli]

Hello all,

My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being  
down. Meanwhile I made some progress:


At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no  
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional  
programs I needed and install the latest updates.


Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to  
the server)

- DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had  
since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.


Simon

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[Linuxguy123]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:57 +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote:
> linux guy - Sunday 13 December 2009 15:34:41:
> > I installed cnetwork manager and I can't get a wifi connection for some
> > reason.  I invoke cnetworkmanager -C  options and hangs.
> > 
> 
> If you're connecting to a wireless network you need:
> cnetworkmanager -C  --
> where  can be:
> --unprotected for an unprotected network
> --wep-pass= for WEP "secured" networks
> --wpa-pass= for WPA secured networks
> 
> e.g. $cnetworkmanager -C mynetwork --wpa-pass=hqlo2547

Yeah, I used the security options, that is why I had "options" in my
command above.  It didn't work. 

Fortunately my cabled connection did work and yum update fixed
everything.  I am now running F12 with zero problems.  

Thanks for the help. 





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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[Julian Aloofi]

linux guy - Sunday 13 December 2009 15:34:41:
> I installed cnetwork manager and I can't get a wifi connection for some
> reason.  I invoke cnetworkmanager -C  options and hangs.
> 

If you're connecting to a wireless network you need:
cnetworkmanager -C  --
where  can be:
--unprotected for an unprotected network
--wep-pass= for WEP "secured" networks
--wpa-pass= for WPA secured networks

e.g. $cnetworkmanager -C mynetwork --wpa-pass=hqlo2547

Note that it doesn't support static IP adresses yet, that may be a problem.

> So I got out a network cable and plugged into my router.   I can ping the
> router the router just fine (192.168.0.1) but as soon as I try to reach
> anything beyond that (ping www.google.com) I get an unknown host error.
> Why and how do I fix that ?  cnetworkmanager shows eth0 to up activated.

I have no clue about this though, I'm just happy when all lamps are blinking 
on my router ;)

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[linux guy]

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:

>  On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 01:59 -0700, linux guy wrote:
> > iwconfig lets me set the various parameters of an interface, but how
> > do I start that interface such that the router assigns it an IP and
> > DNS works ?
>
> NM can be configured to activate on boot, without waiting for a login,
> so system-config-network from a console ought to do it. I say "ought to"
> because when I tried it I got a completely different dialogue from the
> usual one, which is disconcerting. I've no idea why that should be.
>
>
>

I got a network connection working.  whew !   I ran system-config-network
from the command line.  DHCP wasn't enabled for eth0.  I enabled it and
wala, I got an IP address and I can ping outside my local network. Yum
update is running right now.
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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[linux guy]

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Julian Aloofi <
julian.fedorali...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't
> have a
> > wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
> > connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how
> do
> > I set it from the command line ?
>
> If you have it installed by any chance, cnetworkmanager does a great job
> for
> this. If not, you could just "yumdownloader cnetworkmanager" on another
> machine and copy the RPM over with an USB stick and install it, all
> dependencies should be met when you installed a normal desktop system.


I installed cnetwork manager and I can't get a wifi connection for some
reason.  I invoke cnetworkmanager -C  options and hangs.

So I got out a network cable and plugged into my router.   I can ping the
router the router just fine (192.168.0.1) but as soon as I try to reach
anything beyond that (ping www.google.com) I get an unknown host error.
Why and how do I fix that ?  cnetworkmanager shows eth0 to up activated.

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:48 +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote:
> > I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't have a
> > wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
> > connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how do
> > I set it from the command line ?
> 
> If you have it installed by any chance, cnetworkmanager does a great job for 
> this. If not, you could just "yumdownloader cnetworkmanager" on another 
> machine and copy the RPM over with an USB stick and install it, all 
> dependencies should be met when you installed a normal desktop system.

Excellent. I wish I known about this earlier. The idea that a
fundamental component of the system should be controlled primarily via a
GUI has always bothered me. It's just not the Unix Way (tm).

poc

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[Julian Aloofi]

> I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't have a
> wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
> connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how do
> I set it from the command line ?

If you have it installed by any chance, cnetworkmanager does a great job for 
this. If not, you could just "yumdownloader cnetworkmanager" on another 
machine and copy the RPM over with an USB stick and install it, all 
dependencies should be met when you installed a normal desktop system.

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 01:59 -0700, linux guy wrote:
> iwconfig lets me set the various parameters of an interface, but how
> do I start that interface such that the router assigns it an IP and
> DNS works ?

NM can be configured to activate on boot, without waiting for a login,
so system-config-network from a console ought to do it. I say "ought to"
because when I tried it I got a completely different dialogue from the
usual one, which is disconcerting. I've no idea why that should be.

poc


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Re: Help: No internet connection

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 23:48 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> ... but that announcement was for 11:00 UTC 12/12/2009 - which is
> still well before your message saying it started in 20 minutes (which

You're quite right. I was reading 11:00 as pm (it was late :-)

poc

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[linux guy]

iwconfig lets me set the various parameters of an interface, but how do I
start that interface such that the router assigns it an IP and DNS works ?

Thanks.
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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[François Patte]

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Le 13/12/2009 09:34, linux guy a écrit :
> I've been running F11 pretty much since it came out.  It worked well.
>  
> I upgraded to F12 earlier this evening.  For whatever reason it will not
> start an X session.  I think the problem is that I was using the nvidia
> driver and kmod can't get an internet connection due to wifi not finding
> a network connection but when I change my xorg.conf file to use nouveau
> it doesn't work either.
>  
> I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't
> have a wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer
> a wifi connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my
> SSID, etc,  but how do I set it from the command line ?

man iwconfig


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I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

[linux guy]

I've been running F11 pretty much since it came out.  It worked well.

I upgraded to F12 earlier this evening.  For whatever reason it will not
start an X session.  I think the problem is that I was using the nvidia
driver and kmod can't get an internet connection due to wifi not finding a
network connection but when I change my xorg.conf file to use nouveau it
doesn't work either.

I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't have a
wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how do
I set it from the command line ?

Thanks
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