Re: Lost Files
2009/4/24 Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net: jolmstead wrote: I don't think I was clear enough on this, but the /media/disk location was actually the Windows Vista partition. And, like I said, from the command prompt I created a folder in the root C: drive (which was /media/disk) and then copied everything there. I verified every thing was there from the command prompt using ls and then removed it from the /home/user folder. It wasn't until I booted into Vista that the data appeared to be lost. Nothing was every interrupted and I did a standard shut down and restart to get to Vista. Does this change anything or is all hope lost? /media/disk is usually a mount point that is dynamically created when an external drive with an unlabeled partition is hotplugged, so it's a fairly unusual location for mounting a partition on an internal disk. Presumably, you manually created the directory and mounted the Vista partition there. If you did any of that wrong, I can think of a couple of possibilities: HAL does that. My XP partition gets mounted without my interference in /media/label_of_c_drive. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files (Gene Heskett)
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 12:09 +0800, 王召峰 wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:11:30 -0400 From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Lost Files To: jolmste...@gmail.com,Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 200904240611.30464.gene.hesk...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Friday 24 April 2009, jolmstead wrote: I screwed up and now I am in a bad spot. I hope someone can help me. I am pretty new to Linux. I am just taking my first course and setup a laptop with Fedora Core 10 and Windows Vista dual booting. Because of so many bugs and my lack of expertise my wife wanted me to move all of her OpenOffice.org files from the Linux operating system to Vista. So I thought I could just move everything from her home directory to the /media/disk directory and all would be good. Well, from the command prompt I created a folder in /media/disk and moved everything there. Then I booted into Vista and the folder wasn't there. I thought Windows maybe can't read the directory created by Linux so I went back to Linux and to my surprise it was missing from there too! Now it's nowhere to be found and I'm afraid everything she had is lost. Does anyone know of a way I can retrieve those files? I don't believe there is, unless someone has written an undelete for ext3. Yes there is. It is called sleuthkit as I said earlier,, described in Linux Journal April 2009. -- === QOTD: You want me to put *holes* in my ears and hang things from them? How... tribal. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Lost Files
I screwed up and now I am in a bad spot. I hope someone can help me. I am pretty new to Linux. I am just taking my first course and setup a laptop with Fedora Core 10 and Windows Vista dual booting. Because of so many bugs and my lack of expertise my wife wanted me to move all of her OpenOffice.org files from the Linux operating system to Vista. So I thought I could just move everything from her home directory to the /media/disk directory and all would be good. Well, from the command prompt I created a folder in /media/disk and moved everything there. Then I booted into Vista and the folder wasn't there. I thought Windows maybe can't read the directory created by Linux so I went back to Linux and to my surprise it was missing from there too! Now it's nowhere to be found and I'm afraid everything she had is lost. Does anyone know of a way I can retrieve those files? Thank you, Jeremy -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=340913topic_id=70420forum=10#forumpost340913 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmas...@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame jolmste...@gmail.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 08:35 +0200, jolmstead wrote: and my lack of expertise my wife wanted me to move all of her OpenOffice.org files from the Linux operating system to Vista. So I thought I could just move everything from her home directory to the /media/disk directory and all would be good. You're going to have to say what /media/disk refers to. A plugged in hard drive, flash drive, or some internal drive. The /media directory is used to mount removable/temporary media in, with the mounted media becoming a sub-directory inside it. e.g. If I plugged in a USB flash drive, it might be /media/usbdisk. With some media is not written to until you unmount it, at that point the contents are written, *then* it is actually unmounted. If you interrupt that process, the files aren't written. If you create a directory inside /media when there isn't actually any media mounted in there, or using a name that's different from any mounted media, you've just created an ordinary directory inside /media on the file tree. Any files inside it will still be there. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
On Friday 24 April 2009, jolmstead wrote: I screwed up and now I am in a bad spot. I hope someone can help me. I am pretty new to Linux. I am just taking my first course and setup a laptop with Fedora Core 10 and Windows Vista dual booting. Because of so many bugs and my lack of expertise my wife wanted me to move all of her OpenOffice.org files from the Linux operating system to Vista. So I thought I could just move everything from her home directory to the /media/disk directory and all would be good. Well, from the command prompt I created a folder in /media/disk and moved everything there. Then I booted into Vista and the folder wasn't there. I thought Windows maybe can't read the directory created by Linux so I went back to Linux and to my surprise it was missing from there too! Now it's nowhere to be found and I'm afraid everything she had is lost. Does anyone know of a way I can retrieve those files? I don't believe there is, unless someone has written an undelete for ext3. /media is generally used as a mount point, and you must have a disk actually mounted there for the files to be non-volatile. I just did a similar thing with a new 1 TB disk, I thought I had it mounted to /mnt/amandatapes-1-T and ran my initialize script, then umounted it and mounted it where it really goes. Didn't work, it must not have been mounted correctly. Fortunately, there was nothing precious lost. Basically, one should have a little paranoia and copy, then verify the copy is there before deleting the originals. Regardless of the OS. Thank you, Jeremy -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=340913topic_i d=70420forum=10#forumpost340913 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmas...@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame jolmste...@gmail.com. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal. -- Zaphod Beeblebrox -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
I don't think I was clear enough on this, but the /media/disk location was actually the Windows Vista partition. And, like I said, from the command prompt I created a folder in the root C: drive (which was /media/disk) and then copied everything there. I verified every thing was there from the command prompt using ls and then removed it from the /home/user folder. It wasn't until I booted into Vista that the data appeared to be lost. Nothing was every interrupted and I did a standard shut down and restart to get to Vista. Does this change anything or is all hope lost? Thanks, Jeremy -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=340982topic_id=70420forum=10#forumpost340982 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmas...@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame jolmste...@gmail.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 16:31 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 08:35 +0200, jolmstead wrote: and my lack of expertise my wife wanted me to move all of her OpenOffice.org files from the Linux operating system to Vista. So I thought I could just move everything from her home directory to the /media/disk directory and all would be good. You're going to have to say what /media/disk refers to. A plugged in hard drive, flash drive, or some internal drive. In this case /media/disk is the part of the Windows disk available to the Linux user. I have the same thing on my machine. moving rather than copying was the mistake. But the files should be in subdirectories owned by his wife. Or maybe since he did not have formal access to his wife's directories they went into the bit bucket which would be too bad. The /media directory is used to mount removable/temporary media in, with the mounted media becoming a sub-directory inside it. e.g. If I plugged in a USB flash drive, it might be /media/usbdisk. With some media is not written to until you unmount it, at that point the contents are written, *then* it is actually unmounted. If you interrupt that process, the files aren't written. If you create a directory inside /media when there isn't actually any media mounted in there, or using a name that's different from any mounted media, you've just created an ordinary directory inside /media on the file tree. Any files inside it will still be there. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- === Generosity and perfection are your everlasting goals. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 06:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 24 April 2009, jolmstead wrote: I screwed up and now I am in a bad spot. I hope someone can help me. I am pretty new to Linux. I am just taking my first course and setup a laptop with Fedora Core 10 and Windows Vista dual booting. Because of so many bugs and my lack of expertise my wife wanted me to move all of her OpenOffice.org files from the Linux operating system to Vista. So I thought I could just move everything from her home directory to the /media/disk directory and all would be good. Well, from the command prompt I created a folder in /media/disk and moved everything there. Then I booted into Vista and the folder wasn't there. I thought Windows maybe can't read the directory created by Linux so I went back to Linux and to my surprise it was missing from there too! Now it's nowhere to be found and I'm afraid everything she had is lost. Does anyone know of a way I can retrieve those files? I don't believe there is, unless someone has written an undelete for ext3. There is a way to undelete ext2 and ext3 files. It is called sleuthkit. It is a collection of programs whose operation is described in the current issue (may 2009) of Linux Journal in an article, When Disaster Strikes: Attack of the rm Command, by Kyle Rankin on page 30. Since it is the current issue even non-subscribers can probably see it on the Linux Journal web site. -- === When smashing monuments, save the pedstals -- they always come in handy. -- Stanislaw J. Lem, Unkempt Thoughts === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
On Friday 24 April 2009, jolmstead wrote: I don't think I was clear enough on this, but the /media/disk location was actually the Windows Vista partition. And, like I said, from the command prompt I created a folder in the root C: drive (which was /media/disk) and then copied everything there. I verified every thing was there from the command prompt using ls and then removed it from the /home/user folder. It wasn't until I booted into Vista that the data appeared to be lost. Nothing was every interrupted and I did a standard shut down and restart to get to Vista. Does this change anything or is all hope lost? Thanks, Jeremy I'm by no means a vista expert here as I generally don't touch windows with a 20 foot fiberglass pole. I have one xp partition on a lappy I haven't booted in nearly a year, so I'll shut up as I'm NOT being helpful. -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=340982topic_i d=70420forum=10#forumpost340982 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmas...@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame jolmste...@gmail.com. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Take a lesson from the whale; the only time he gets speared is when he raises to spout. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
jolmstead wrote: I don't think I was clear enough on this, but the /media/disk location was actually the Windows Vista partition. And, like I said, from the command prompt I created a folder in the root C: drive (which was /media/disk) and then copied everything there. I verified every thing was there from the command prompt using ls and then removed it from the /home/user folder. It wasn't until I booted into Vista that the data appeared to be lost. Nothing was every interrupted and I did a standard shut down and restart to get to Vista. Does this change anything or is all hope lost? /media/disk is usually a mount point that is dynamically created when an external drive with an unlabeled partition is hotplugged, so it's a fairly unusual location for mounting a partition on an internal disk. Presumably, you manually created the directory and mounted the Vista partition there. If you did any of that wrong, I can think of a couple of possibilities: a) The Vista partition wasn't actually mounted when you did the copy. In that case you should be able to unmount anything currently on /media/disk and then see your files in the now exposed directory. (I'm really hoping you didn't manually delete that directory. Doing rm -rf /media/disk or using File Manager to delete the directory would blow everything away.) b) You accidentally mounted something other than the Vista partition there, in which case your missing files are on some other disk partition. -- Bob Nichols NOSPAM is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
jolmstead wrote: I don't think I was clear enough on this, but the /media/disk location was actually the Windows Vista partition. And, like I said, from the command prompt I created a folder in the root C: drive (which was /media/disk) and then copied everything there. I verified every thing was there from the command prompt using ls and then removed it from the /home/user folder. It wasn't until I booted into Vista that the data appeared to be lost. Nothing was every interrupted and I did a standard shut down and restart to get to Vista. Does this change anything or is all hope lost? Thanks, Jeremy Have you copied files this way before with no problems? I wonder if Vista may have moved the files because they were not supposed to be officially there. All my Vista experiences have been disasters. Look for undelete tools for Vista as well. Another thing that I have happend in the past, is that the drive/partition wasn't mounted and I created the directories and moved files. When the partition is mounted, the files are still existant but not visible. Boot into Linux and make sure that the Vista partition is not mounted and check again. I don't think udev or hal will delete files from /media. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 13:14 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: jolmstead wrote: I don't think I was clear enough on this, but the /media/disk location was actually the Windows Vista partition. And, like I said, from the command prompt I created a folder in the root C: drive (which was /media/disk) and then copied everything there. I verified every thing was there from the command prompt using ls and then removed it from the /home/user folder. It wasn't until I booted into Vista that the data appeared to be lost. Nothing was every interrupted and I did a standard shut down and restart to get to Vista. Does this change anything or is all hope lost? /media/disk is usually a mount point that is dynamically created when an external drive with an unlabeled partition is hotplugged, so it's a fairly unusual location for mounting a partition on an internal disk. Presumably, you manually created the directory and mounted the Vista partition there. If you did any of that wrong, I can think of a couple of possibilities: a) The Vista partition wasn't actually mounted when you did the copy. In that case you should be able to unmount anything currently on /media/disk and then see your files in the now exposed directory. (I'm really hoping you didn't manually delete that directory. Doing rm -rf /media/disk or using File Manager to delete the directory would blow everything away.) b) You accidentally mounted something other than the Vista partition there, in which case your missing files are on some other disk partition. I am not a Vista expert but with my double booted XP - Linux the disk mouted with the Windows XP stuff is muted on /media/disk without help from me. === Suicide is the sincerest form of self-criticism. -- Donald Kaul === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files (Gene Heskett)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:11:30 -0400 From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Lost Files To: jolmste...@gmail.com, Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 200904240611.30464.gene.hesk...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Friday 24 April 2009, jolmstead wrote: I screwed up and now I am in a bad spot. I hope someone can help me. I am pretty new to Linux. I am just taking my first course and setup a laptop with Fedora Core 10 and Windows Vista dual booting. Because of so many bugs and my lack of expertise my wife wanted me to move all of her OpenOffice.org files from the Linux operating system to Vista. So I thought I could just move everything from her home directory to the /media/disk directory and all would be good. Well, from the command prompt I created a folder in /media/disk and moved everything there. Then I booted into Vista and the folder wasn't there. I thought Windows maybe can't read the directory created by Linux so I went back to Linux and to my surprise it was missing from there too! Now it's nowhere to be found and I'm afraid everything she had is lost. Does anyone know of a way I can retrieve those files? I don't believe there is, unless someone has written an undelete for ext3. /media is generally used as a mount point, and you must have a disk actually mounted there for the files to be non-volatile. I just did a similar thing with a new 1 TB disk, I thought I had it mounted to /mnt/amandatapes-1-T and ran my initialize script, then umounted it and mounted it where it really goes. Didn't work, it must not have been mounted correctly. Fortunately, there was nothing precious lost. Basically, one should have a little paranoia and copy, then verify the copy is there before deleting the originals. Regardless of the OS. Thank you, Jeremy -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=340913topic_i d=70420forum=10#forumpost340913 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmas...@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame jolmste...@gmail.com. At last there is one thing you can try to retrieve your wife's files: unmount the hard disk from your laptop and put it into a mobile hard disk box, then on aother computer use data recovery tools like EasyRecovery to get your lost date back, Good luck! ___ 好玩贺卡等你发，邮箱贺卡全新上线！ http://card.mail.cn.yahoo.com/-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
