Re: New feature after recent yum update
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 22:22:46 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Everyone I just ran yum update, logged out and logged back in. I was greeted with this: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg More specifically, some of the icons on my desktop had little red circles (with exclamation points in them) by them. At first I thought something (else) really weird happened and I had a whole bunch of broken symlinks. Then I clicked on one to see what happened. This is the result: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg If I click Continue the application starts just fine, and the circle with the exclamation point goes away for that application. If for some reason, I decide to minimize the little prompt depicted in http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg the entire desktop gets dim (just like a window that does not have focus is set to do on our system) and the little dialog minimizes just fine. BUT, I have not been able to find a way to restore it after it has been minimized. For all intents and purposes, the desktop is locked up. I happen to have my desktop set to display a slide-show that changes pictures every 15 seconds. This continues to work properly. Pop-ups for newly received email work properly. But my ability to interact with my desktop and start new applications is completely and totally ended. The only way to get things back to normal is to do Ctrl | Alt | Backspace Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Not much, I'm afraid. I've been using 4.3 for a few weeks now and never seen this behaviour. You did re-start KDE, I see, but have you tried a reboot, in case there was something from the old system still running and causing a conflict? There are few things in Linux that require a reboot, but I always do one after a kernel change, and after major changes to KDE. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Steven P. Ulricklists-fed...@afolkey2.net wrote: Hello Everyone I just ran yum update, logged out and logged back in. I was greeted with this: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg More specifically, some of the icons on my desktop had little red circles (with exclamation points in them) by them. At first I thought something (else) really weird happened and I had a whole bunch of broken symlinks. Then I clicked on one to see what happened. This is the result: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg If I click Continue the application starts just fine, and the circle with the exclamation point goes away for that application. If for some reason, I decide to minimize the little prompt depicted in http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg the entire desktop gets dim (just like a window that does not have focus is set to do on our system) and the little dialog minimizes just fine. BUT, I have not been able to find a way to restore it after it has been minimized. For all intents and purposes, the desktop is locked up. I happen to have my desktop set to display a slide-show that changes pictures every 15 seconds. This continues to work properly. Pop-ups for newly received email work properly. But my ability to interact with my desktop and start new applications is completely and totally ended. The only way to get things back to normal is to do Ctrl | Alt | Backspace Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Hi Steve, I can just confirm that I have seen this on one of my machine after an update. I opened each and every application to remove that red colour image. I am not aware of its reason though. Thanks, Anoop Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update
Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Not much, I'm afraid. I've been using 4.3 for a few weeks now and never seen this behaviour. You did re-start KDE, I see, but have you tried a reboot, in case there was something from the old system still running and causing a conflict? There are few things in Linux that require a reboot, but I always do one after a kernel change, and after major changes to KDE. Hello Anne First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself have not even seen yet. That is well appreciated :) After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE. The result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this subject. The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot. That is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I clicked Continue One cool difference that I see after the same set of updates the resulted in the issue referred to in this thread is the change in the desktop effect Wobbly Windows The wobble doesn't stop after the window is no longer being moved/resized. It continues to wobble for a few moments... Pretty cool :) Anyway, I digress... Thanks again for your help so far, Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:35:37 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Not much, I'm afraid. I've been using 4.3 for a few weeks now and never seen this behaviour. You did re-start KDE, I see, but have you tried a reboot, in case there was something from the old system still running and causing a conflict? There are few things in Linux that require a reboot, but I always do one after a kernel change, and after major changes to KDE. Hello Anne First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself have not even seen yet. That is well appreciated :) After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE. The result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this subject. The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot. That is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I clicked Continue If you can make a reasonably accurate guess as to what time you did this, can you please check your logs - see if anything there gives a clue? It's very strange. One cool difference that I see after the same set of updates the resulted in the issue referred to in this thread is the change in the desktop effect Wobbly Windows The wobble doesn't stop after the window is no longer being moved/resized. It continues to wobble for a few moments... Pretty cool :) Since my laptop has a 4-year-old ATi display card I don't have much joy with desktop effects :-) so I haven't seen that either. Anyway, I digress... Thanks again for your help so far, Haven't actually helped much, have I? Still, if you can find anything at all in the logs it would help us understand what happened. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update (SOLVED!)
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 16:22:17 Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:35:37 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Anne First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself have not even seen yet. That is well appreciated :) After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE. The result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this subject. The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot. That is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I clicked Continue Haven't actually helped much, have I? Still, if you can find anything at all in the logs it would help us understand what happened. Amazing how things crop up! I've just come across this: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67t=77468p=122035#p122035 Is it your thread, or just someone reached the same position as you? Hello Anne No, that is not my thread. BUT, running chmod 744 *.desktop resulted in the feature that I started this thread about being immediately disabled :) Like I think I said in my initial message on this, it's not that I think that this is a bad idea, but I just didn't happen to like it. I figured that this might be something really simple, but I figured the more places that this new feature gets referred to on the internet the better. Somebody might find the answer to this here, but for some reason might not be able to find it on the KDE forum. Thank you for having Google skills that clearly surpass my own... Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
New feature after recent yum update
Hello Everyone I just ran yum update, logged out and logged back in. I was greeted with this: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg More specifically, some of the icons on my desktop had little red circles (with exclamation points in them) by them. At first I thought something (else) really weird happened and I had a whole bunch of broken symlinks. Then I clicked on one to see what happened. This is the result: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg If I click Continue the application starts just fine, and the circle with the exclamation point goes away for that application. If for some reason, I decide to minimize the little prompt depicted in http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg the entire desktop gets dim (just like a window that does not have focus is set to do on our system) and the little dialog minimizes just fine. BUT, I have not been able to find a way to restore it after it has been minimized. For all intents and purposes, the desktop is locked up. I happen to have my desktop set to display a slide-show that changes pictures every 15 seconds. This continues to work properly. Pop-ups for newly received email work properly. But my ability to interact with my desktop and start new applications is completely and totally ended. The only way to get things back to normal is to do Ctrl | Alt | Backspace Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Steven P. Ulrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
