Re: Big time delays in replies sent to the list
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 19:38 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: I sent a reply to the list, using Kmail, and reply to mailing list some 1hr 54 mins ago, and it's still not turned up on the list. At least I havn't seen any confirmation of it. Read up about greylisting (or graylisting), I think this list uses it as an anti-spam scheme. That *can* result in lengthy delays for *some* postings. It can also be the SMTP server that you're posting through (overloaded, implementing some anti-spam scheme, temporarily faulty, etc). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Big time delays in replies sent to the list
See below... On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent a reply to the list, using Kmail, and reply to mailing list some 1hr 54 mins ago, and it's still not turned up on the list. At least I havn't seen any confirmation of it. Some lists that I'm on, I can send a reply, then check mail, and the mail I've just sent is already there, but replies sent to the Fedora list always seem to suffer some time delay. It will be interesting to see how quick I get a confirmation of this post. I've just checked the mail again, and it's just past 2hrs since I sent the reply, and still have no confirmation that it's been received by the list. This is not a complaint. I'm just puzzled by the delays. Nigel. Since your message was delivered all you need to look at is the full headers and the time stamps that each mail system adds to the headers. You can compare and contrast to other messages on this list to see if all the messages are delayed or just yours. The obvious steps are you to your service provider, your ISP to Redhat, redhat to the list, the list to the archives and the list to you. The most common issue with big lists is that someone is first and someone is last. If in the middle of the list a bunch of hosts are SLOW the the time from first to last delivery can be longer than expected. Others suggested that you also check the archives.Messages will be archived there and you can see if your messages was delivered to the list and is simply being slow getting back to you. Some users will see delivery in seconds and others hours on big lists like this. Especially when a chunk of the membership is 'slow' for one reason or another. Other times there are internet mail storms It pays to keep a free email account handy to send yourself a test message or two. -- NiftyFedora T o m M i t c h e l l -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Big time delays in replies sent to the list
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 19:38, Nigel Henry wrote: I sent a reply to the list, using Kmail, and reply to mailing list some 1hr 54 mins ago, and it's still not turned up on the list. At least I havn't seen any confirmation of it. Some lists that I'm on, I can send a reply, then check mail, and the mail I've just sent is already there, but replies sent to the Fedora list always seem to suffer some time delay. It will be interesting to see how quick I get a confirmation of this post. I've just checked the mail again, and it's just past 2hrs since I sent the reply, and still have no confirmation that it's been received by the list. This is not a complaint. I'm just puzzled by the delays. Nigel. Replying myself, I've got a confirmation in about 15secs from this post. Has this got anything to do with the way that the To lines are displayed, when replying to mailing list. I was replying to a post, and the To line was as below. Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com On Kmail I used reply to mailing list, and looking in the sent mail box, the To line shows up as below. fedora-list@redhat.com Any observations, comments, etc, usw. Well I've just resent the reply using: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Again I've had a confirmation in less than 10secs that the email has been received. Just what is all this rubbish that's inserted before the list address, and is causing problems when replying to the list, using, as I do Reply to mailing list with Kmail. I can never understand all this stuff that somehow gets inserted before the list address. Who puts it there? Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Big time delays in replies sent to the list
Nigel Henry wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2008 19:38, Nigel Henry wrote: I sent a reply to the list, using Kmail, and reply to mailing list some 1hr 54 mins ago, and it's still not turned up on the list. At least I havn't seen any confirmation of it. Some lists that I'm on, I can send a reply, then check mail, and the mail I've just sent is already there, but replies sent to the Fedora list always seem to suffer some time delay. It will be interesting to see how quick I get a confirmation of this post. I've just checked the mail again, and it's just past 2hrs since I sent the reply, and still have no confirmation that it's been received by the list. This is not a complaint. I'm just puzzled by the delays. Nigel. Replying myself, I've got a confirmation in about 15secs from this post. Has this got anything to do with the way that the To lines are displayed, when replying to mailing list. I was replying to a post, and the To line was as below. Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com On Kmail I used reply to mailing list, and looking in the sent mail box, the To line shows up as below. fedora-list@redhat.com Any observations, comments, etc, usw. Well I've just resent the reply using: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Again I've had a confirmation in less than 10secs that the email has been received. Just what is all this rubbish that's inserted before the list address, and is causing problems when replying to the list, using, as I do Reply to mailing list with Kmail. I can never understand all this stuff that somehow gets inserted before the list address. Who puts it there? Nigel. The stuff before the e-mail address is supposed to be the name of the person sending the e-mail. But it is not needed. You can just send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It used to be Users of Fedora:. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Big time delays in replies sent to the list
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 19:38 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: I sent a reply to the list, using Kmail, and reply to mailing list some 1hr 54 mins ago, and it's still not turned up on the list. At least I havn't seen any confirmation of it. Some lists that I'm on, I can send a reply, then check mail, and the mail I've just sent is already there, but replies sent to the Fedora list always seem to suffer some time delay. It will be interesting to see how quick I get a confirmation of this post. I've just checked the mail again, and it's just past 2hrs since I sent the reply, and still have no confirmation that it's been received by the list. This is not a complaint. I'm just puzzled by the delays. Did you check the archives? That's usually the best way to see if your mail has been posted, since it doesn't have to find its way back to you. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines