Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
Bill Davidsen ha scritto: Bing wrote: Hi, I am new to this and seeking advice. I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media check. I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with errors. The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. This may be caused by the burning program either using too much padding during the burn, or not using any. As I recall the simple check in the install has a problem due to this, and get an error reading the last block. Sorry I can't recall the details, my burning and verifying methods both take steps to prevent this and I never verify media. So three hints: 1 - if your burning program has an option to pad the data to a multiple of some size, try that. 2 - most Windows programs need to be told to burn an image, by default they tend to create a CD with a single file (the image you wanted) on it. By any chance did you forget to do that? 3 - if you are paying more than 15-20 cents for a blank CD you need a new supplier. It's pretty hard to spend a fortune on CDs at that rate. ;-) Hope some of this is useful, if not I would just go ahead with the install and don't verify the CDs. Hi everybody Right now I am installing (for the first time in my life) a Fedora 9 on a PC using the net install CD. Maybe you can want to try with a net install CD, too: easy and quick! :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
Bing wrote: Hi, I am new to this and seeking advice. I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media check. I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with errors. The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. This may be caused by the burning program either using too much padding during the burn, or not using any. As I recall the simple check in the install has a problem due to this, and get an error reading the last block. Sorry I can't recall the details, my burning and verifying methods both take steps to prevent this and I never verify media. So three hints: 1 - if your burning program has an option to pad the data to a multiple of some size, try that. 2 - most Windows programs need to be told to burn an image, by default they tend to create a CD with a single file (the image you wanted) on it. By any chance did you forget to do that? 3 - if you are paying more than 15-20 cents for a blank CD you need a new supplier. It's pretty hard to spend a fortune on CDs at that rate. ;-) Hope some of this is useful, if not I would just go ahead with the install and don't verify the CDs. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
Tod Merley wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am new to this and seeking advice. I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media check. I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with errors. The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. Many thanks in anticipation. Bing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Hi Bing! Try running a checksum or shasum on the disks. If they pass I would tend to use them. The media check seems to be sometimes unreliable. You need to check just the size of the ISO image, reading the CD may return more or less data than written based on how the end of data was padded (or not). So: - get the size of the ISO image on disk in 2k blocks, either with wc or "ls -s" and a little simple arithmetic. - read just that much from the CD and do the sum, like dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2k count=${size_in_2k_blocks} | sha1sum - - compare that to the original: sha1sum YourImage.iso That's the reliable way to check, if the sums match the CD is correct. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
sha1sum is a great idea being non trusting, I have copied the file from CD to hard drive and compared with the download file using diff K3B has a verify feature but it fails (bug on record) --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Tod Merley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Tod Merley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:57 AM On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am new to this and seeking advice. > > I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. > > I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media > check. > > I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with > errors. > > The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD > > > > Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has > successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. > > > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > > > Bing > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > Hi Bing! Try running a checksum or shasum on the disks. If they pass I would tend to use them. The media check seems to be sometimes unreliable. Have Fun! Tod -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am new to this and seeking advice. > > I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. > > I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media > check. > > I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with > errors. > > The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD > > > > Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has > successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. > > > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > > > Bing > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > Hi Bing! Try running a checksum or shasum on the disks. If they pass I would tend to use them. The media check seems to be sometimes unreliable. Have Fun! Tod -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
novice that I am: I went out and bought 2 CD/DVD RW units Sony and Plextor(expensive) Now I burn the DVD ISO images using K3B Now I can also backup files 4.7 gig or 8.x gig. Floppy disks are dead and new stuff arrives every day! 32 gig flash memory drives are down <= $80! http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37619/135/ --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Kevin J. Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kevin J. Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 12:32 PM Bing wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am new to this and seeking advice. > > I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. > > I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the > media check. > > I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up > with errors. > > The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD > > > > Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody > has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. Try burning the CDs at a lower speed. This often helps. Especially with marginal media. > > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > > > Bing > -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Bing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am new to this and seeking advice. > > I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. > > I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media > check. > > I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with > errors. > > The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD > > > > Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has > successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. > Just an idea. On the machine you will be installing - is there a spare FAT32 (or EXT2/EXT3) partition which you will NOT be reformatting during the install? If so, and you have 4GB spare on that partition, copy all the ISO's to that partition. Then boot with the first CD only and at the boot use:'linux askmethod' which will allow you to use the ISO files to install instead of the CD's. I do understand this may not be an option for you, but I know this method works well and faster than CD install. -Mauriat -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
> Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has > successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. I've seen a small number of cases where the verify fails incorrectly. Can you try installing off the CD set you burned and if it works please open a bug in bugzilla and put in it - The disk controller type - The vendor/model of the CD or DVD drive. and assign it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 18:12 +0100, Bing wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am new to this and seeking advice. > > I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were > ok. > > I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the > media check. > > I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came > up with errors. > > The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD > > > > Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if > anybody has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these > images. I had this happen years ago and IIRC the solution was to add "ide=nodma" to the boot line while installing. See http://www.fedorafaq.org/#mediacheck poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
On Monday 08 September 2008 19:12, Bing wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am new to this and seeking advice. > > I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. > > I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media > check. > > I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up > with errors. > > The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD > > > > Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has > successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. > > > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > > > Bing A while back, not sure now which Fedora version, but the first cd was burnt to one make of CD media, and the rest of the disks were on another. the first CD passed the media check, and the rest failed, but the Fedora version installed ok with no problems with any of the disks. I did read that the media checker wasn't entirely reliable. Someone else mentioned that there could be a problem with just one file on the CD, but may not cause a problem with installing the system, although the media checker gave a fail. Why though the first CD on one make of media passed, and the other 4 disks failed on a different make of media is puzzling. I ignored the fails on the other 4 CD's, and went ahead with the install, and had no problems. I don't even bother with the media checker now, and just go ahead with the install. And Yes, I too have downloaded the 6 CD images for Fedora 9, didn't do the media check, and Fedora 9 has installed ok, although I don't like KDE4 too much. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images
Bing wrote: Hi, I am new to this and seeking advice. I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok. I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media check. I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with errors. The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images. Try burning the CDs at a lower speed. This often helps. Especially with marginal media. Many thanks in anticipation. Bing -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines