Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-10 Thread Bill Davidsen

Bing wrote:

Hi,

 

I am new to this and seeking advice. 


I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.

I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the 
media check.


I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up 
with errors.


The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD

 

Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody 
has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.


This may be caused by the burning program either using too much padding 
during the burn, or not using any. As I recall the simple check in the 
install has a problem due to this, and get an error reading the last 
block. Sorry I can't recall the details, my burning and verifying 
methods both take steps to prevent this and I never verify media.


So three hints:
1 - if your burning program has an option to pad the data to a multiple 
of some size, try that.


2 - most Windows programs need to be told to burn an image, by default 
they tend to create a CD with a single file (the image you wanted) on 
it. By any chance did you forget to do that?


3 - if you are paying more than 15-20 cents for a blank CD you need a 
new supplier. It's pretty hard to spend a fortune on CDs at that rate. ;-)


Hope some of this is useful, if not I would just go ahead with the 
install and don't verify the CDs.


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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-10 Thread Vincenzo Campanella

Bill Davidsen ha scritto:

Bing wrote:

Hi,

 


I am new to this and seeking advice.
I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were 
ok.


I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the 
media check.


I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came 
up with errors.


The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD

 

Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if 
anybody has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these 
images.


This may be caused by the burning program either using too much padding 
during the burn, or not using any. As I recall the simple check in the 
install has a problem due to this, and get an error reading the last 
block. Sorry I can't recall the details, my burning and verifying 
methods both take steps to prevent this and I never verify media.


So three hints:
1 - if your burning program has an option to pad the data to a multiple 
of some size, try that.


2 - most Windows programs need to be told to burn an image, by default 
they tend to create a CD with a single file (the image you wanted) on 
it. By any chance did you forget to do that?


3 - if you are paying more than 15-20 cents for a blank CD you need a 
new supplier. It's pretty hard to spend a fortune on CDs at that rate. ;-)


Hope some of this is useful, if not I would just go ahead with the 
install and don't verify the CDs.



Hi everybody

Right now I am installing (for the first time in my life) a Fedora 9 on 
a PC using the net install CD. Maybe you can want to try with a net 
install CD, too: easy and quick! :)


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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-09 Thread Tod Merley
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,



 I am new to this and seeking advice.

 I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.

 I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media
 check.

 I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with
 errors.

 The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD



 Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has
 successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.



 Many thanks in anticipation.



 Bing

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Hi Bing!

Try running a checksum or shasum on the disks.  If they pass I would
tend to use them.  The media check seems to be sometimes unreliable.

Have Fun!

Tod

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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-09 Thread landon kelsey
sha1sum is a great idea

being non trusting, I have copied the file from CD to hard drive and compared 
with the download file using diff

K3B has a verify feature but it fails (bug on record)

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Tod Merley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
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Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:57 AM

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,



 I am new to this and seeking advice.

 I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.

 I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media
 check.

 I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up
with
 errors.

 The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD



 Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody
has
 successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.



 Many thanks in anticipation.



 Bing

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Hi Bing!

Try running a checksum or shasum on the disks.  If they pass I would
tend to use them.  The media check seems to be sometimes unreliable.

Have Fun!

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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-09 Thread Bill Davidsen

Tod Merley wrote:

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,



I am new to this and seeking advice.

I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.

I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media
check.

I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with
errors.

The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD



Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has
successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.



Many thanks in anticipation.



Bing

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Hi Bing!

Try running a checksum or shasum on the disks.  If they pass I would
tend to use them.  The media check seems to be sometimes unreliable.

You need to check just the size of the ISO image, reading the CD may 
return more or less data than written based on how the end of data was 
padded (or not). So:
- get the size of the ISO image on disk in 2k blocks, either with wc or 
ls -s and a little simple arithmetic.

- read just that much from the CD and do the sum, like
  dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2k count=${size_in_2k_blocks} | sha1sum -
- compare that to the original:
  sha1sum YourImage.iso

That's the reliable way to check, if the sums match the CD is correct.

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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-08 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Bing wrote:

Hi,

 

I am new to this and seeking advice. 


I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.

I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the 
media check.


I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up 
with errors.


The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD

 

Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody 
has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.


Try burning the CDs at a lower speed.  This often helps.  Especially 
with marginal media.


 


Many thanks in anticipation.

 


Bing




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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-08 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 08 September 2008 19:12, Bing wrote:
 Hi,



 I am new to this and seeking advice.

 I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.

 I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media
 check.

 I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up
 with errors.

 The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD



 Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has
 successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.



 Many thanks in anticipation.



 Bing

A while back, not sure now which Fedora version, but the first cd was burnt to 
one make of CD media, and the rest of the disks were on another. the first CD 
passed the media check, and the rest failed, but the Fedora version installed 
ok with no problems with any of the disks. 

I did read that the media checker wasn't entirely reliable. Someone else 
mentioned that there could be a problem with just one file on the CD, but may 
not cause a problem with installing the system, although the media checker 
gave a fail. Why though the first CD on one make of media passed, and the 
other 4 disks failed on a different make of media is puzzling. I ignored the 
fails on the other 4 CD's, and went ahead with the install, and had no 
problems.

I don't even bother with the media checker now, and just go ahead with the 
install.

And Yes, I too have downloaded the 6 CD images for Fedora 9, didn't do the 
media check, and Fedora 9 has installed ok, although I don't like KDE4 too 
much.

Nigel.

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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-08 Thread Alan Cox
 Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has
 successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.

I've seen a small number of cases where the verify fails incorrectly. Can
you try installing off the CD set you burned and if it works please open
a bug in bugzilla and put in it

- The disk controller type
- The vendor/model of the CD or DVD drive.

and assign it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alan

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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-08 Thread Mauriat
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Bing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,



 I am new to this and seeking advice.

 I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.

 I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the media
 check.

 I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up with
 errors.

 The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD



 Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has
 successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.


Just an idea.

On the machine you will be installing - is there a spare FAT32 (or
EXT2/EXT3) partition which you will NOT be reformatting during the
install?  If so, and you have 4GB spare on that partition, copy all
the ISO's to that partition. Then boot with the first CD only and at
the boot use:'linux askmethod' which will allow you to use the ISO
files to install instead of the CD's.

I do understand this may not be an option for you, but I know this
method works well and faster than CD install.

-Mauriat

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Re: Fedora 9 i386 CD images

2008-09-08 Thread landon kelsey
novice that I am:

I went out and bought 2 CD/DVD RW units Sony and Plextor(expensive)

Now I burn the DVD ISO images using K3B

Now I can also backup files 4.7 gig or 8.x gig.

Floppy disks are dead and new stuff arrives every day!

32 gig flash memory drives are down = $80!

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37619/135/


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To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
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Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 12:32 PM

Bing wrote:
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I am new to this and seeking advice. 
 
 I downloaded the 6 CD images ok and run the checksum and they all were ok.
 
 I burned the images to CD and only CD 1 and 6 show no errors on the 
 media check.
 
 I re-burnt CD 2 to see if it was a glitch but the new disk also came up 
 with errors.
 
 The machines I have do not have DVD drives only CD
 
  
 
 Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody 
 has successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.

Try burning the CDs at a lower speed.  This often helps.  Especially 
with marginal media.

  
 
 Many thanks in anticipation.
 
  
 
 Bing
 


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