Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
Hi, --- On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Gary Stainburn gary.stainb...@ringways.co.uk wrote: | Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they | find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. \-- Everything works out of the box. Fedora on Dell Vostro 1310: http://www.shakthimaan.com/installs/dell-vostro-1310.html SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:42:42AM -0700, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 14:23 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Gary Stainburn wrote: Hi folks, Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora, you'll need to install it yourself. If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset - nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty much everything else is supported. Actually, we've made good strides for support in the radeon and nouveau (ATI and Nvidia, respectively) open source drivers for Xorg lately, which will be appearing in Fedora 11. now if we could get xrandr up to 1.3 (I think it's still hanging at 1.2.3), I could conceivably get virtual scrolling back. Run this: repoquery --repoid=rawhide --changelog xorg-x11-server-utils The latest changelog entry concerning xrandr shows that the package coming to Fedora 11 at this point includes 1.2.99.4, which I assume is a 1.3 pre-release. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpOw0VkTFjDH.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 07:38 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:42:42AM -0700, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 14:23 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Gary Stainburn wrote: Hi folks, Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora, you'll need to install it yourself. If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset - nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty much everything else is supported. Actually, we've made good strides for support in the radeon and nouveau (ATI and Nvidia, respectively) open source drivers for Xorg lately, which will be appearing in Fedora 11. now if we could get xrandr up to 1.3 (I think it's still hanging at 1.2.3), I could conceivably get virtual scrolling back. Run this: repoquery --repoid=rawhide --changelog xorg-x11-server-utils The latest changelog entry concerning xrandr shows that the package coming to Fedora 11 at this point includes 1.2.99.4, which I assume is a 1.3 pre-release. son of gun...I love you man I had downloaded the F11-Beta-DVD, loop mounted the iso and did an rpm -qp --changelog on xorg-x11-server-utils and it only listed 1.2.3 for xrandr I was frustrated in my attempts to install the F11-Beta and I figured why go through the pain if it can't cure my problem. I will get it installed at some point today. My Aspire One tiny screen might get virtual scrolling after all...yippee! Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
Gary Stainburn wrote: Hi folks, Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. Cheers Gary I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora, you'll need to install it yourself. If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset - nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty much everything else is supported. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Gary Stainburn wrote: Hi folks, Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. Cheers Gary I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora, you'll need to install it yourself. If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset - nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty much everything else is supported. Vostro 1500 works fine wth F10 , i had to opt for the intel wireless otherwise they shipped broadcom(no thank you). Also had to nuke XP (kinda fun actually) but beware the media direct button(i think its called) it will hose your install. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:45:27PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:58:35 -0400 m wrote: Vostro 1500 works fine wth F10 , i had to opt for the intel wireless otherwise they shipped broadcom(no thank you). Also had to nuke XP (kinda fun actually) but beware the media direct button(i think its called) it will hose your install. There is actually a button on the keyboard(?) that will cause the laptop to stop working? And you can't disable that? Really? I was unaware of what it did until it was to late. I know better than too look at it now. The laptop will work fine but it will hose the install, somethng to do with reinstalling windows if i remember it right. If the default xp had been on there it probably wouldn't have been a problem. That alone would be a darn good reason to stay far far away from the thing -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 02:12:08PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:58:35 -0400 m wrote: Vostro 1500 works fine wth F10 , i had to opt for the intel wireless otherwise they shipped broadcom(no thank you). Also had to nuke XP (kinda fun actually) but beware the media direct button(i think its called) it will hose your install. There is actually a button on the keyboard(?) that will cause the laptop to stop working? And you can't disable that? Really? That alone would be a darn good reason to stay far far away from the thing If the button does what the one I have on my Toshiba, it boots from a special partition on the drive. This normally loads a media player that works without Windows. I have never checked to see if the location was hard-wired into the BIOS, but I could see it causing problems if it is. You would never know what code was going to be run if you deleted the partition. I am not sure what error checking is done. I am not going to delete it and find out - I like being to use the laptop as a DVD/CD player without having to boot a normal OS. I have also heard of laptops that have a button that will restore the OS from a recovery partition, but they normally require you to confirm that this is what you want to do. I don't remember all the details of what its supposed to do, only that it killed an innocent werewolf(F8). I think the confirmation mechanism was designed to work with windows only, i formatted the drive before use but this was apparently in a ROM or something because as soon as it got pressed the floor fell out from under me.It formatted and overwrote sections of the drive. I heard that Dell was going to fix this thing but i don't know that they ever did. -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:58:35 -0400 m wrote: Vostro 1500 works fine wth F10 , i had to opt for the intel wireless otherwise they shipped broadcom(no thank you). Also had to nuke XP (kinda fun actually) but beware the media direct button(i think its called) it will hose your install. There is actually a button on the keyboard(?) that will cause the laptop to stop working? And you can't disable that? Really? That alone would be a darn good reason to stay far far away from the thing If the button does what the one I have on my Toshiba, it boots from a special partition on the drive. This normally loads a media player that works without Windows. I have never checked to see if the location was hard-wired into the BIOS, but I could see it causing problems if it is. You would never know what code was going to be run if you deleted the partition. I am not sure what error checking is done. I am not going to delete it and find out - I like being to use the laptop as a DVD/CD player without having to boot a normal OS. I have also heard of laptops that have a button that will restore the OS from a recovery partition, but they normally require you to confirm that this is what you want to do. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 14:23 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Gary Stainburn wrote: Hi folks, Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora, you'll need to install it yourself. If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset - nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty much everything else is supported. Actually, we've made good strides for support in the radeon and nouveau (ATI and Nvidia, respectively) open source drivers for Xorg lately, which will be appearing in Fedora 11. now if we could get xrandr up to 1.3 (I think it's still hanging at 1.2.3), I could conceivably get virtual scrolling back. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:58:35 -0400 m wrote: Vostro 1500 works fine wth F10 , i had to opt for the intel wireless otherwise they shipped broadcom(no thank you). Also had to nuke XP (kinda fun actually) but beware the media direct button(i think its called) it will hose your install. There is actually a button on the keyboard(?) that will cause the laptop to stop working? And you can't disable that? Really? That alone would be a darn good reason to stay far far away from the thing -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: Gary Stainburn wrote: Hi folks, Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. Cheers Gary I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora, you'll need to install it yourself. If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset - nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty much everything else is supported. Actually, we've made good strides for support in the radeon and nouveau (ATI and Nvidia, respectively) open source drivers for Xorg lately, which will be appearing in Fedora 11. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgprMpl4aujCY.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 19:51:36 Kevin Kofler wrote: Gary Stainburn wrote: Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop. Can anyone tell me how they find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora. There are many Vostro models with vastly differing hardware configurations, you'll have to be more specific. Kevin Kofler Dell Vostro 1510 NB (N0415129) Intel X3100 graphics card -- Gary Stainburn This email does not contain private or confidential material as it may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora on dell vostro 1510?
Quoting Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:56:09PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: as a followup to an earlier post, i'm interested in finding an entry-level laptop who's most important property is that it have a full WUXGA (1920x1200) display, preferably non-NVIDIA video, and runs fedora reliably. May I recommend the Dell Studio 15 instead of the Vostro you were looking at? It is available with Ubuntu pre-installed, and has an Intel video and WXUGA screen available. http://dell.com/ubuntu Since it runs Ubuntu, it'll run Fedora quite well also. hm ... i didn't see that as an option at dell.ca (i'm in canada). is it available up here? rday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora on dell vostro 1510?
Quoting Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:56:09PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: as a followup to an earlier post, i'm interested in finding an entry-level laptop who's most important property is that it have a full WUXGA (1920x1200) display, preferably non-NVIDIA video, and runs fedora reliably. May I recommend the Dell Studio 15 instead of the Vostro you were looking at? It is available with Ubuntu pre-installed, and has an Intel video and WXUGA screen available. http://dell.com/ubuntu Since it runs Ubuntu, it'll run Fedora quite well also. found it at dell.ca, i shall give it a serious look, thanks. rday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora on dell vostro 1510?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:56:09PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: as a followup to an earlier post, i'm interested in finding an entry-level laptop who's most important property is that it have a full WUXGA (1920x1200) display, preferably non-NVIDIA video, and runs fedora reliably. May I recommend the Dell Studio 15 instead of the Vostro you were looking at? It is available with Ubuntu pre-installed, and has an Intel video and WXUGA screen available. http://dell.com/ubuntu Since it runs Ubuntu, it'll run Fedora quite well also. That may not always be the case. I bought an Inspiron 1420 from Dell last year with Ubuntu pre-installed and working. I put Fedora on it, and it had all sorts of problems: no DVD, wired or wireless networking or audio. To be fair, the version of Ubuntu that it came with had been *heavily* doctored to get it to work, there were all sorts of pre-release patches installed. Later versions of those patches wouldn't always work, which made updating my Fedora install awkward. DVD, audio and wired networking worked with the next version of Fedora though. WiFi was extremly spotty with NetworkManager, but worked OK when manually configured with iwconfig, although that rapidly gets old. Everything works like a charm nowadays though. I'm not saying don't buy one, in fact I would still recommend one to the right person. Its just that I was bitten by the assumption that Fedora should just work. On the plus side, it should have hardware that is supported, even if drivers are currently under early development for it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora on dell vostro 1510?
Quoting Andrew Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:56:09PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: as a followup to an earlier post, i'm interested in finding an entry-level laptop who's most important property is that it have a full WUXGA (1920x1200) display, preferably non-NVIDIA video, and runs fedora reliably. May I recommend the Dell Studio 15 instead of the Vostro you were looking at? It is available with Ubuntu pre-installed, and has an Intel video and WXUGA screen available. http://dell.com/ubuntu Since it runs Ubuntu, it'll run Fedora quite well also. That may not always be the case. I bought an Inspiron 1420 from Dell last year with Ubuntu pre-installed and working. I put Fedora on it, and it had all sorts of problems: no DVD, wired or wireless networking or audio. To be fair, the version of Ubuntu that it came with had been *heavily* doctored to get it to work, there were all sorts of pre-release patches installed. Later versions of those patches wouldn't always work, which made updating my Fedora install awkward. DVD, audio and wired networking worked with the next version of Fedora though. WiFi was extremly spotty with NetworkManager, but worked OK when manually configured with iwconfig, although that rapidly gets old. Everything works like a charm nowadays though. I'm not saying don't buy one, in fact I would still recommend one to the right person. Its just that I was bitten by the assumption that Fedora should just work. On the plus side, it should have hardware that is supported, even if drivers are currently under early development for it. i'm liking that studio 15, i think it will do everything i want. the only dilemma is the choice of video card -- intel x3100, or spend another $100 for a 256MB ATI mobility radeon hd 3450. would that $100 get me a noticeable improvement? recommendations? rday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
