Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-10 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/9 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/9 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/7 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:

 So are you saying that you tried the existing alternative kernel, offered
 in
 grub, but that no longer worked?  That would be very peculiar indeed.

 OK - I've read your bug report.  I don't believe that there is any way
 that
 installing a new kernel would break the existing ones.  You almost
 certainly
 have something else going on.  You may well have to wait to see whether
 anyone else identifies the problem.  FWIW, 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is one of
 the
 kernels you mention, and it certainly works on my Fedora box.

 Anne:

 Please see some of my contribution to this thread.

 I'm having a similar issue to Antonio's...I've got a fully updated F9
 install, and I noted that as of a couple of kernel releases ago, my
 workstation, which boots to runlevel 5, does not actually appear to start
 up the X desktop either.  Instead, it switches to TTY7 with a blank screen
 and blinking cursor.

 What I need to do, to get around this, is ALT-F1, log in, init 3 and then
 init 5 in order to get the system to actually bring up the X login screen.
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 Mike,

 have you read my final report saying that I have eventually solved the
 problem??? It was a graphic driver from test-updates that was causing
 the problem: now I have gone back to a fully F9 system and evrrything
 is o.k. For my info, which graphic card do you use???


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 Warning
 and same driver has been pushed to the rawhide repo I will file a
 bug against it



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 sorry...

 I mean to the F9 updates repo!!!

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as same upgrade has been pushed to rawhide, I find exactly the same
problems.I reverted back to the original rpm and everything is o.k

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-09 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/7 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:

 So are you saying that you tried the existing alternative kernel, offered
 in
 grub, but that no longer worked?  That would be very peculiar indeed.

 OK - I've read your bug report.  I don't believe that there is any way
 that
 installing a new kernel would break the existing ones.  You almost
 certainly
 have something else going on.  You may well have to wait to see whether
 anyone else identifies the problem.  FWIW, 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is one of
 the
 kernels you mention, and it certainly works on my Fedora box.

 Anne:

 Please see some of my contribution to this thread.

 I'm having a similar issue to Antonio's...I've got a fully updated F9
 install, and I noted that as of a couple of kernel releases ago, my
 workstation, which boots to runlevel 5, does not actually appear to start
 up the X desktop either.  Instead, it switches to TTY7 with a blank screen
 and blinking cursor.

 What I need to do, to get around this, is ALT-F1, log in, init 3 and then
 init 5 in order to get the system to actually bring up the X login screen.
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 Mike,

 have you read my final report saying that I have eventually solved the
 problem??? It was a graphic driver from test-updates that was causing
 the problem: now I have gone back to a fully F9 system and evrrything
 is o.k. For my info, which graphic card do you use???


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Warning
and same driver has been pushed to the rawhide repo I will file a
bug against it



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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-09 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/9 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/7 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:

 So are you saying that you tried the existing alternative kernel, offered
 in
 grub, but that no longer worked?  That would be very peculiar indeed.

 OK - I've read your bug report.  I don't believe that there is any way
 that
 installing a new kernel would break the existing ones.  You almost
 certainly
 have something else going on.  You may well have to wait to see whether
 anyone else identifies the problem.  FWIW, 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is one of
 the
 kernels you mention, and it certainly works on my Fedora box.

 Anne:

 Please see some of my contribution to this thread.

 I'm having a similar issue to Antonio's...I've got a fully updated F9
 install, and I noted that as of a couple of kernel releases ago, my
 workstation, which boots to runlevel 5, does not actually appear to start
 up the X desktop either.  Instead, it switches to TTY7 with a blank screen
 and blinking cursor.

 What I need to do, to get around this, is ALT-F1, log in, init 3 and then
 init 5 in order to get the system to actually bring up the X login screen.
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 Mike,

 have you read my final report saying that I have eventually solved the
 problem??? It was a graphic driver from test-updates that was causing
 the problem: now I have gone back to a fully F9 system and evrrything
 is o.k. For my info, which graphic card do you use???


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 Warning
 and same driver has been pushed to the rawhide repo I will file a
 bug against it



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sorry...

I mean to the F9 updates repo!!!

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-07 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/7 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/6 Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 08:57 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 2008/7/5 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  2008/7/5 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:
  In the meantime we lost the Crystal webcam as in another
 
   thread..
 
  BTW - if you compiled the driver for the webcam against the existing 
  kernel,
  you will have to install the new source kernel to match your new kernel 
  and
  re-compile the driver.
 
  That could be the cause of all your problems, if the bootup is 
  attempting to
  start the webcam.
 
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  No I have not compiled any driver so this is not the culprit: and F10
  kernels work fine.
  And Crystal Webcam was operating out of the box!!! at least until
  Thursday morning
 
 
 
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 I have a doubt: maybe that on Thursday I installed some packages from
 test-update repository:
 1) how do I get the list of packages installed on a particular day?
 2) can I get by some rpm command the origin repository of each
 installed package???

 /var/log/yum.log

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 I reverted back to xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.fc9.i386 from standard repo.
 Anyway, xorg-x11-drv-i810 prevents my system to boot when using F9
 kernel, while it is o.k. when using F10 kernel.
 I don't know where to file this bug.

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xorg-x11-drv-i810 prevents my system to boot when using F9
 kernel, while it is o.k. when using F10 kernel.

has to be read as

xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.fc9.i386 prevents my system to boot when using F9
 kernel, while it is o.k. when using F10 kernel

Sorry for mistyping
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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Burger

 On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:

 So are you saying that you tried the existing alternative kernel, offered
 in
 grub, but that no longer worked?  That would be very peculiar indeed.

 OK - I've read your bug report.  I don't believe that there is any way
 that
 installing a new kernel would break the existing ones.  You almost
 certainly
 have something else going on.  You may well have to wait to see whether
 anyone else identifies the problem.  FWIW, 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is one of
 the
 kernels you mention, and it certainly works on my Fedora box.

Anne:

Please see some of my contribution to this thread.

I'm having a similar issue to Antonio's...I've got a fully updated F9
install, and I noted that as of a couple of kernel releases ago, my
workstation, which boots to runlevel 5, does not actually appear to start
up the X desktop either.  Instead, it switches to TTY7 with a blank screen
and blinking cursor.

What I need to do, to get around this, is ALT-F1, log in, init 3 and then
init 5 in order to get the system to actually bring up the X login screen.
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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Burger

 2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Please see some of my contribution to this thread.

 I'm having a similar issue to Antonio's...I've got a fully updated F9
 install, and I noted that as of a couple of kernel releases ago, my
 workstation, which boots to runlevel 5, does not actually appear to
 start
 up the X desktop either.  Instead, it switches to TTY7 with a blank
 screen
 and blinking cursor.

 What I need to do, to get around this, is ALT-F1, log in, init 3 and
 then
 init 5 in order to get the system to actually bring up the X login
 screen.

 Mike,

 have you read my final report saying that I have eventually solved the
 problem??? It was a graphic driver from test-updates that was causing
 the problem: now I have gone back to a fully F9 system and evrrything
 is o.k. For my info, which graphic card do you use???

I did see that, yes.

I'm not using any test drivers, that I'm aware of.  My video card is an
Nvidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400.

For what it's worth, I'm (finally) looking at my my Xorg.0.log and
Xorg.0.log.old.

Xorg.0.log.old ends with:

(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 7


Fatal server error:
xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call

While Xorg.0.log, which is created one minute later (after running init 3
; init 5) runs successful.

Might be some sort of timing issue...but I can't imagine what might be
causing such a time-out.

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-07 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Please see some of my contribution to this thread.

 I'm having a similar issue to Antonio's...I've got a fully updated F9
 install, and I noted that as of a couple of kernel releases ago, my
 workstation, which boots to runlevel 5, does not actually appear to
 start
 up the X desktop either.  Instead, it switches to TTY7 with a blank
 screen
 and blinking cursor.

 What I need to do, to get around this, is ALT-F1, log in, init 3 and
 then
 init 5 in order to get the system to actually bring up the X login
 screen.

 Mike,

 have you read my final report saying that I have eventually solved the
 problem??? It was a graphic driver from test-updates that was causing
 the problem: now I have gone back to a fully F9 system and evrrything
 is o.k. For my info, which graphic card do you use???

 I did see that, yes.

 I'm not using any test drivers, that I'm aware of.  My video card is an
 Nvidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400.

 For what it's worth, I'm (finally) looking at my my Xorg.0.log and
 Xorg.0.log.old.

 Xorg.0.log.old ends with:

 (II) Loader running on linux
 (++) using VT number 7


 Fatal server error:
 xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call

 While Xorg.0.log, which is created one minute later (after running init 3
 ; init 5) runs successful.

 Might be some sort of timing issue...but I can't imagine what might be
 causing such a time-out.

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Mike,

what is the graphic driver??? I am using a Nvidia card at home with nv
driver from Fedora and I have no problem at all: are you using the
driver from Nvidia??? ot nouveau???

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Burger

 what is the graphic driver??? I am using a Nvidia card at home with nv
 driver from Fedora and I have no problem at all: are you using the
 driver from Nvidia??? ot nouveau???

xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.8-1.fc9.i386
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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-07 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 what is the graphic driver??? I am using a Nvidia card at home with nv
 driver from Fedora and I have no problem at all: are you using the
 driver from Nvidia??? ot nouveau???

 xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.8-1.fc9.i386
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exactly the same driver

This is my xorg.conf file (if it can help):

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section ServerLayout
Identifier single head configuration
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice

# keyboard added by rhpxl
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel pc105
Option  XkbLayout it
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
ModelNamePhilips 107B(17inch/CM6800)
HorizSync30.0 - 69.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 130.0
Option  dpms
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Videocard0
Driver  nv
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Videocard0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes1024x768 832x624 800x600 720x400 640x480
640x400 640x350
EndSubSection
EndSection


Does it boot with a standard vesa driver???

I have never had a single problem with nv driver.


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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Burger

 2008/7/7 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 what is the graphic driver??? I am using a Nvidia card at home with nv
 driver from Fedora and I have no problem at all: are you using the
 driver from Nvidia??? ot nouveau???

 xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.8-1.fc9.i386

 exactly the same driver

 This is my xorg.conf file (if it can help):

 # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

 Section ServerLayout
   Identifier single head configuration
   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
   InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice

 # keyboard added by rhpxl
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
   Option  XkbModel pc105
   Option  XkbLayout it
 EndSection

 Section Monitor
   Identifier   Monitor0
   ModelNamePhilips 107B(17inch/CM6800)
   HorizSync30.0 - 69.0
   VertRefresh  50.0 - 130.0
   Option  dpms
 EndSection

 Section Device
   Identifier  Videocard0
   Driver  nv
 EndSection

 Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Videocard0
   MonitorMonitor0
   DefaultDepth 24
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 24
   Modes1024x768 832x624 800x600 720x400 640x480
 640x400 640x350
   EndSubSection
 EndSection


 Does it boot with a standard vesa driver???

 I have never had a single problem with nv driver.

Nope...the log indicates that it's using the NVIDIA GeForce2 driver, and
my conf looks pretty much the same, with the exception that my monitor
supports higher resolutions:

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section ServerLayout
Identifier single head configuration
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel pc105
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
ModelNameLCD Panel 1600x1200
 ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
HorizSync31.5 - 90.0
VertRefresh  59.9 - 60.1
Option  dpms
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Videocard0
Driver  nv
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Videocard0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes1600x1200 1600x1024 1440x900 1400x1050
1280x1024 1280x960 1280x800 1152x864 1024x768
800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Still, I'd think that if it was a driver issue, per se, that init 3 ;
init 5 would have resulted in the same behavior as simply booting into
runlevel 5.
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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-06 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/5 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/5 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:
 In the meantime we lost the Crystal webcam as in another

  thread..

 BTW - if you compiled the driver for the webcam against the existing kernel,
 you will have to install the new source kernel to match your new kernel and
 re-compile the driver.

 That could be the cause of all your problems, if the bootup is attempting to
 start the webcam.

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 No I have not compiled any driver so this is not the culprit: and F10
 kernels work fine.
 And Crystal Webcam was operating out of the box!!! at least until
 Thursday morning



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I have a doubt: maybe that on Thursday I installed some packages from
test-update repository:
1) how do I get the list of packages installed on a particular day?
2) can I get by some rpm command the origin repository of each
installed package???

Tnx

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 06 July 2008 11:19:11 Antonio M wrote:
 2008/7/6 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 08:57 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
  1) how do I get the list of packages installed on a particular day?
 
  Read /var/log/yum.log if you used YUM to install them.
 
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  2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686
 
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 This is the list of updates, after some of these updates prevented me
 from graphic login: but finding is not easy :-) , I guess that is
 something around Thursday at 13.30...

 Jul 03 09:51:43 Updated: glib2.i386 2.16.3-7.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:45 Updated: pango.i386 1.20.4-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:46 Updated: popt.i386 1.13-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:47 Updated: e2fsprogs-libs.i386 1.40.10-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:48 Updated: openldap.i386 2.4.8-5.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:49 Updated: libtdb.i386 1.1.1-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:49 Updated: libtalloc.i386 1.2.0-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:50 Updated: cups-libs.i386 1:1.3.7-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:51 Updated: nautilus-extensions.i386 2.22.4-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:53 Updated: libwnck.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:55 Updated: gail.i386 1.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:56 Updated: libxklavier.i386 3.5-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:58 Updated: libgtop2.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:59 Updated: libgssglue.i386 0.1-6.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:00 Updated: nfs-utils-lib.i386 1.1.1-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:34 Updated: libgweather.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:42 Updated: libpciaccess.i386 0.10.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:42 Updated: libXfont.i386 1.3.2-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:47 Updated: iptables.i386 1.4.1.1-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:48 Updated: schroedinger.i386 1.0.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:48 Updated: libvolume_id.i386 124-1.fc9.1
 Jul 03 09:52:52 Updated: qt3.i386 3.3.8b-13.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:52 Updated: lirc-libs.i386 0.8.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:53 Updated: cdparanoia-libs.i386 10.0-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:54 Updated: iptables-ipv6.i386 1.4.1.1-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:55 Updated: rpcbind.i386 0.1.4-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:56 Updated: info.i386 4.11-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:58 Updated: xorg-x11-server-utils.i386 7.4-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:00 Installed: mesa-dri-drivers.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:01 Updated: mesa-libGL.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:01 Updated: mesa-libGLU.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:03 Updated: texinfo.i386 4.11-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:07 Updated: gtksourceview2.i386 2.2.2-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:10 Updated: boost.i386 1.34.1-15.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:13 Updated: mesa-libOSMesa.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:14 Updated: openobex.i386 1.3-13.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:14 Updated: libdhcp4client.i386 12:4.0.0-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:14 Updated: kpartx.i386 0.4.7-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:15 Updated: ustr.i386 1.0.4-7.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:16 Updated: elfutils-libelf.i386 0.135-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:17 Updated: wavpack.i386 4.50-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:18 Updated: device-mapper-multipath.i386 0.4.7-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:28 Updated: texinfo-tex.i386 4.11-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:28 Updated: glx-utils.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:32 Updated: nfs-utils.i386 1:1.1.2-5.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:33 Updated: cdparanoia.i386 10.0-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:34 Updated: lirc.i386 0.8.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:36 Updated: udev.i386 124-1.fc9.1
 Jul 03 09:53:37 Updated: gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger.i386 1.0.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:39 Updated: e2fsprogs.i386 1.40.10-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:40 Updated: rhgb.i386 1:9.0.0-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:41 Updated: rsync.i386 3.0.3-0.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:57 Updated: gcalctool.i386 5.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:58 Updated: gtk2-engines.i386 2.14.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:59 Updated: patch.i386 2.5.4-35.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:00 Updated: mdadm.i386 2.6.7-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:01 Updated: dhclient.i386 12:4.0.0-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:40 Installed: kernel.i686 2.6.25.9-76.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:41 Updated: mlocate.i386 0.21-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:41 Updated: xorg-x11-server-common.i386
 1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9 Jul 03 09:54:54 Updated: man-pages-it.noarch
 2.80-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:55 Updated: fedora-release.noarch 9-3
 Jul 03 09:55:08 Updated: python.i386 2.5.1-26.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:09 Updated: dbus-libs.i386 1.2.1-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:12 Updated: samba-winbind.i386 3.2.0-1.rc2.16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:28 Updated: gnome-keyring.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:34 Updated: libgnomeui.i386 2.22.1-3.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:38 Updated: gnome-desktop.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:39 Updated: dbus.i386 1.2.1-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:40 Updated: python-libs.i386 2.5.1-26.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:41 Updated: python-urlgrabber.noarch 3.0.0-9.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:41 Updated: perl-version.i386 3:0.74-29.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:41 Updated: dbus-x11.i386 1.2.1-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:42 Updated: PolicyKit.i386 0.8-3.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:49 Updated: evolution-data-server.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:56:11 Updated: policycoreutils.i386 2.0.49-10.fc9
 Jul 03 09:56:12 Updated: pygobject2.i386 2.14.2-1.fc9
 

Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-06 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/6 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sunday 06 July 2008 11:19:11 Antonio M wrote:
 2008/7/6 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 08:57 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
  1) how do I get the list of packages installed on a particular day?
 
  Read /var/log/yum.log if you used YUM to install them.
 
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 This is the list of updates, after some of these updates prevented me
 from graphic login: but finding is not easy :-) , I guess that is
 something around Thursday at 13.30...

 Jul 03 09:51:43 Updated: glib2.i386 2.16.3-7.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:45 Updated: pango.i386 1.20.4-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:46 Updated: popt.i386 1.13-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:47 Updated: e2fsprogs-libs.i386 1.40.10-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:48 Updated: openldap.i386 2.4.8-5.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:49 Updated: libtdb.i386 1.1.1-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:49 Updated: libtalloc.i386 1.2.0-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:50 Updated: cups-libs.i386 1:1.3.7-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:51 Updated: nautilus-extensions.i386 2.22.4-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:53 Updated: libwnck.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:55 Updated: gail.i386 1.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:56 Updated: libxklavier.i386 3.5-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:58 Updated: libgtop2.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:51:59 Updated: libgssglue.i386 0.1-6.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:00 Updated: nfs-utils-lib.i386 1.1.1-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:34 Updated: libgweather.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:42 Updated: libpciaccess.i386 0.10.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:42 Updated: libXfont.i386 1.3.2-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:47 Updated: iptables.i386 1.4.1.1-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:48 Updated: schroedinger.i386 1.0.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:48 Updated: libvolume_id.i386 124-1.fc9.1
 Jul 03 09:52:52 Updated: qt3.i386 3.3.8b-13.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:52 Updated: lirc-libs.i386 0.8.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:53 Updated: cdparanoia-libs.i386 10.0-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:54 Updated: iptables-ipv6.i386 1.4.1.1-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:55 Updated: rpcbind.i386 0.1.4-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:56 Updated: info.i386 4.11-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:52:58 Updated: xorg-x11-server-utils.i386 7.4-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:00 Installed: mesa-dri-drivers.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:01 Updated: mesa-libGL.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:01 Updated: mesa-libGLU.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:03 Updated: texinfo.i386 4.11-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:07 Updated: gtksourceview2.i386 2.2.2-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:10 Updated: boost.i386 1.34.1-15.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:13 Updated: mesa-libOSMesa.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:14 Updated: openobex.i386 1.3-13.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:14 Updated: libdhcp4client.i386 12:4.0.0-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:14 Updated: kpartx.i386 0.4.7-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:15 Updated: ustr.i386 1.0.4-7.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:16 Updated: elfutils-libelf.i386 0.135-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:17 Updated: wavpack.i386 4.50-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:18 Updated: device-mapper-multipath.i386 0.4.7-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:28 Updated: texinfo-tex.i386 4.11-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:28 Updated: glx-utils.i386 7.1-0.37.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:32 Updated: nfs-utils.i386 1:1.1.2-5.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:33 Updated: cdparanoia.i386 10.0-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:34 Updated: lirc.i386 0.8.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:36 Updated: udev.i386 124-1.fc9.1
 Jul 03 09:53:37 Updated: gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger.i386 1.0.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:39 Updated: e2fsprogs.i386 1.40.10-4.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:40 Updated: rhgb.i386 1:9.0.0-8.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:41 Updated: rsync.i386 3.0.3-0.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:57 Updated: gcalctool.i386 5.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:58 Updated: gtk2-engines.i386 2.14.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:53:59 Updated: patch.i386 2.5.4-35.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:00 Updated: mdadm.i386 2.6.7-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:01 Updated: dhclient.i386 12:4.0.0-16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:40 Installed: kernel.i686 2.6.25.9-76.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:41 Updated: mlocate.i386 0.21-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:41 Updated: xorg-x11-server-common.i386
 1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9 Jul 03 09:54:54 Updated: man-pages-it.noarch
 2.80-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:54:55 Updated: fedora-release.noarch 9-3
 Jul 03 09:55:08 Updated: python.i386 2.5.1-26.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:09 Updated: dbus-libs.i386 1.2.1-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:12 Updated: samba-winbind.i386 3.2.0-1.rc2.16.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:28 Updated: gnome-keyring.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:34 Updated: libgnomeui.i386 2.22.1-3.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:38 Updated: gnome-desktop.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:39 Updated: dbus.i386 1.2.1-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:40 Updated: python-libs.i386 2.5.1-26.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:41 Updated: python-urlgrabber.noarch 3.0.0-9.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:41 Updated: perl-version.i386 3:0.74-29.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:41 Updated: dbus-x11.i386 1.2.1-2.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:42 Updated: PolicyKit.i386 0.8-3.fc9
 Jul 03 09:55:49 Updated: evolution-data-server.i386 2.22.3-1.fc9
 Jul 03 09:56:11 Updated: policycoreutils.i386 2.0.49-10.fc9
 Jul 03 09:56:12 

Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 06 July 2008 14:21:03 Antonio M wrote:
 my problems started when I installed some packages from test-update (I
 didn't realize that repo of test-update was active).
 Fortunately I installed kernel from F10 that makes my system fully
 operating. I will wait for new standard F9  updates that should work
 also with F9 kernels (that are not working!!!).
 I hope that the developer take account of these problems in
 test-updates (not in F10 that is running fine on this same system)

You do realise that F10 is rawhide - a testing installation that is guaranteed 
to break from time to time?  You should not be running *anything* from F10 
unless you fully accept responsibility for a broken system.  You have been 
warned.

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-06 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/6 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sunday 06 July 2008 14:21:03 Antonio M wrote:
 my problems started when I installed some packages from test-update (I
 didn't realize that repo of test-update was active).
 Fortunately I installed kernel from F10 that makes my system fully
 operating. I will wait for new standard F9  updates that should work
 also with F9 kernels (that are not working!!!).
 I hope that the developer take account of these problems in
 test-updates (not in F10 that is running fine on this same system)

 You do realise that F10 is rawhide - a testing installation that is guaranteed
 to break from time to time?  You should not be running *anything* from F10
 unless you fully accept responsibility for a broken system.  You have been
 warned.

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Of course I know what I am doing. I have F9 systems running fine, I am
testing F10 (that has never broken---I am using it in the office for
office works with some attention, data are not stored on that system).
And any F10 system is a F9 system with rawhide repo activated...
My idea on this particular system is that some update from test-update
(from F9) is preventing F9 to run properly i.e.if I remove the only
F10 package (kernel) I have a non working system .
And if nobody tests package in updates-testing and reports breakages,
how can Fedora be tested?? :-))

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 08:57 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 2008/7/5 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  2008/7/5 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:
  In the meantime we lost the Crystal webcam as in another
 
   thread..
 
  BTW - if you compiled the driver for the webcam against the existing 
  kernel,
  you will have to install the new source kernel to match your new kernel and
  re-compile the driver.
 
  That could be the cause of all your problems, if the bootup is attempting 
  to
  start the webcam.
 
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  No I have not compiled any driver so this is not the culprit: and F10
  kernels work fine.
  And Crystal Webcam was operating out of the box!!! at least until
  Thursday morning
 
 
 
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 I have a doubt: maybe that on Thursday I installed some packages from
 test-update repository:
 1) how do I get the list of packages installed on a particular day?
 2) can I get by some rpm command the origin repository of each
 installed package???

/var/log/yum.log

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Mike Burger

 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
 completely similar.

 That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1.

Just suggested that, too, however, if his symptoms were like mine (blank
text screen with blinking cursor in upper left corner) ALT-F1 usually
works just fine.

CTRL is usually only needed to get from the X screens to the first TTY.

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/5 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
 completely similar.

 That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1.

 Just suggested that, too, however, if his symptoms were like mine (blank
 text screen with blinking cursor in upper left corner) ALT-F1 usually
 works just fine.

 CTRL is usually only needed to get from the X screens to the first TTY.

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I have no blinking cursor
I have filed a bug
See Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login
Now I have a F9 with a F10 kernel (the only package from F10), but
this kernel prevented the use of my Crystal webcam that was playing
fine until thursday morning

I agree that F10 maybe broken, but I see same breakage in F9. :-(


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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Mike Burger

 2008/7/5 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
 completely similar.

 That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1.

 Just suggested that, too, however, if his symptoms were like mine (blank
 text screen with blinking cursor in upper left corner) ALT-F1 usually
 works just fine.

 CTRL is usually only needed to get from the X screens to the first TTY.

 I have no blinking cursor
 I have filed a bug
 See Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login
 Now I have a F9 with a F10 kernel (the only package from F10), but
 this kernel prevented the use of my Crystal webcam that was playing
 fine until thursday morning

I noted you were able to use the kernel to get around the graphical login
issue...also read the Crystal Eye thread.

 I agree that F10 maybe broken, but I see same breakage in F9. :-(

The issue I'm seeing is in F9...not brave enough to move to F10...and
thinking I should have stayed at F8. ;-)
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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 05 July 2008 12:49:57 Antonio M wrote:
 Now I have a F9 with a F10 kernel (the only package from F10), but
 this kernel prevented the use of my Crystal webcam that was playing
 fine until thursday morning

So before you installed this you had a strong reason to believe that an F10 
kernel would be problem-free with F9?

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/5 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Saturday 05 July 2008 12:49:57 Antonio M wrote:
 Now I have a F9 with a F10 kernel (the only package from F10), but
 this kernel prevented the use of my Crystal webcam that was playing
 fine until thursday morning

 So before you installed this you had a strong reason to believe that an F10
 kernel would be problem-free with F9?

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Anne,

I had a system fully based on F9.On Thursday I applied some updates
(the day' updates, as I usually run yum daily).
After applying all aupdates and rebooting I got a blank screen after
the start-up procedure.
I could login graphically playing between runlevel 3 and runlevel 5
but system froze anyway after some Firefox use (I don't know if this
is related...)
So basically I had an unusable system, I decided to give an extreme
try installing a kernel from F10 and magically the system worked
again In the meantime we lost the Crystal webcam as in another
thread... :-(
I am waiting comments by developers (see Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest
updates prevent graphic login)
Please note that I have another system runing F9 where I installed a
kernel from F10 to solve sound troubles similar to Bugzilla Bug
453471: kernel update causes sound to play too fast

I hope to have explained my situation

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/5 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/5 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Saturday 05 July 2008 12:49:57 Antonio M wrote:
 Now I have a F9 with a F10 kernel (the only package from F10), but
 this kernel prevented the use of my Crystal webcam that was playing
 fine until thursday morning

 So before you installed this you had a strong reason to believe that an F10
 kernel would be problem-free with F9?

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 Anne,

 I had a system fully based on F9.On Thursday I applied some updates
 (the day' updates, as I usually run yum daily).
 After applying all aupdates and rebooting I got a blank screen after
 the start-up procedure.
 I could login graphically playing between runlevel 3 and runlevel 5
 but system froze anyway after some Firefox use (I don't know if this
 is related...)
 So basically I had an unusable system, I decided to give an extreme
 try installing a kernel from F10 and magically the system worked
 again In the meantime we lost the Crystal webcam as in another
 thread... :-(
 I am waiting comments by developers (see Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest
 updates prevent graphic login)
 Please note that I have another system runing F9 where I installed a
 kernel from F10 to solve sound troubles similar to Bugzilla Bug
 453471: kernel update causes sound to play too fast

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/5 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
  I had a system fully based on F9.On Thursday I applied some updates
  (the day' updates, as I usually run yum daily).
  After applying all aupdates and rebooting I got a blank screen after
  the start-up procedure.
  I could login graphically playing between runlevel 3 and runlevel 5
  but system froze anyway after some Firefox use (I don't know if this
  is related...)
  So basically I had an unusable system,

 So are you saying that you tried the existing alternative kernel, offered in
 grub, but that no longer worked?  That would be very peculiar indeed.

 OK - I've read your bug report.  I don't believe that there is any way that
 installing a new kernel would break the existing ones.  You almost certainly
 have something else going on.  You may well have to wait to see whether
 anyone else identifies the problem.  FWIW, 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 is one of the
 kernels you mention, and it certainly works on my Fedora box.


No...what I am saying that on my particular hardware some updates (God
know what update) prevents the graphic login but not the text login.
As you can imagine, text has no use if you want to connect to the Net

  I decided to give an extreme
  try installing a kernel from F10 and magically the system worked
  again In the meantime we lost the Crystal webcam as in another
  thread... :-(
  I am waiting comments by developers (see Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest
  updates prevent graphic login)


  Please note that I have another system runing F9 where I installed a
  kernel from F10 to solve sound troubles similar to Bugzilla Bug
  453471: kernel update causes sound to play too fast
 
  I hope to have explained my situation

 I tried also kernel-2.6.25.10-85.fc9.i686 from Koji, with no success!!!

 I don't know who is advising you to try rawhide and koji kernels, but I would
 not touch them in a standard install unless I had *very strong* reason to
 trust the level of expertise of the person recommending them.  And there
 would be very few people indeed that fit that bill.



On the same system I am running F10 with minor problems (Skype not
working...and also I cannot surf to Windows shares...), so I decided
to give a try, therefore instead of fully updating all F9 to F10 I
decided to upgrade only kernel. I have still F9 kernels on my
system...that refuse to work



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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-05 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/5 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:06:32 Antonio M wrote:
 In the meantime we lost the Crystal webcam as in another

  thread..

 BTW - if you compiled the driver for the webcam against the existing kernel,
 you will have to install the new source kernel to match your new kernel and
 re-compile the driver.

 That could be the cause of all your problems, if the bootup is attempting to
 start the webcam.

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No I have not compiled any driver so this is not the culprit: and F10
kernels work fine.
And Crystal Webcam was operating out of the box!!! at least until
Thursday morning



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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-04 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/3 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/3 Brian Mury [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
 completely similar.

 That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1.


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 well

 I installed a kernel from F10, and everything is o.k., at leat graphic
 login is working again, and I can connect to my wireless network using
 my iwl3945.
 I have seen a post by Linville but I cannot find it


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Anyway I filed a bug against kernel, even if I am not sure that it
completely kernel related...
Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-03 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/3 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I updated Fedora 9 short ago (my system is fully upand when I
 re-booted I get the complete graphical procedure and then  a blank
 screen
 I re-booted in runlevel 3 and I issued a startx and everything went fine.
 What is wrong
 I am uing intel graphic driver, with iwl3945 wireless adapter.
 Furtehrmore, after a while the system freezes.
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I apologize for so much mistyping :-)
Anyway I re-booted in runlevel 3 and with kernel 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686
and so far I have not experienced any freezing (I will check again but
I think that system froze after Firefox start-up)
For the blank screen issue, what is the component to be filed against?
Bad news as system froze anyway during firefox use.
I guess that all issues are strictly connected.

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-03 Thread Mike Burger

 2008/7/3 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I updated Fedora 9 short ago (my system is fully upand when I
 re-booted I get the complete graphical procedure and then  a blank
 screen
 I re-booted in runlevel 3 and I issued a startx and everything went
 fine.
 What is wrong
 I am uing intel graphic driver, with iwl3945 wireless adapter.
 Furtehrmore, after a while the system freezes.
 What is going on

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 I apologize for so much mistyping :-)
 Anyway I re-booted in runlevel 3 and with kernel 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686
 and so far I have not experienced any freezing (I will check again but
 I think that system froze after Firefox start-up)
 For the blank screen issue, what is the component to be filed against?
 Bad news as system froze anyway during firefox use.
 I guess that all issues are strictly connected.

With regard to the blank screen...I'm assuming that is happening after
the graphical boot sequence...the one that shows all the various service
starting, etc.

I'm running into the same issue, using an Nvidia card.

It's not an indication that the system is frozen...it's that the system
switched to TTY7, which is where the graphical environment is supposed to
start.

Instead, all I do is press ALT-F1 to get to the first console terminal,
log in, run sudo init 3 to bring the system to runlevel 3 (text only
mode), then sudo init 5 ; exit to bring the system back to runlevel 5
(graphical mode) and then exit that particular shell.

The system then comes up with the login for the GUI desktop.

I do wonder if it has to do with the desktop environment selected.  I run
KDE (don't have Gnome installed)...which desktop environment are you
using?

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-03 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/3 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2008/7/3 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I updated Fedora 9 short ago (my system is fully upand when I
 re-booted I get the complete graphical procedure and then  a blank
 screen
 I re-booted in runlevel 3 and I issued a startx and everything went
 fine.
 What is wrong
 I am uing intel graphic driver, with iwl3945 wireless adapter.
 Furtehrmore, after a while the system freezes.
 What is going on

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 I apologize for so much mistyping :-)
 Anyway I re-booted in runlevel 3 and with kernel 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686
 and so far I have not experienced any freezing (I will check again but
 I think that system froze after Firefox start-up)
 For the blank screen issue, what is the component to be filed against?
 Bad news as system froze anyway during firefox use.
 I guess that all issues are strictly connected.

 With regard to the blank screen...I'm assuming that is happening after
 the graphical boot sequence...the one that shows all the various service
 starting, etc.

 I'm running into the same issue, using an Nvidia card.

 It's not an indication that the system is frozen...it's that the system
 switched to TTY7, which is where the graphical environment is supposed to
 start.

 Instead, all I do is press ALT-F1 to get to the first console terminal,
 log in, run sudo init 3 to bring the system to runlevel 3 (text only
 mode), then sudo init 5 ; exit to bring the system back to runlevel 5
 (graphical mode) and then exit that particular shell.

 The system then comes up with the login for the GUI desktop.

 I do wonder if it has to do with the desktop environment selected.  I run
 KDE (don't have Gnome installed)...which desktop environment are you
 using?

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Gnome with intel driver.I logged in runlevel 3 and the I issued a
startx: system freezes after a while, and immediately if i try to
disable wireless card in Network Manager.
Note that is a laptop, now i am running it on F10.but I have
different issues.

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-03 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/3 Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2008/7/3 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I updated Fedora 9 short ago (my system is fully upand when I
 re-booted I get the complete graphical procedure and then  a blank
 screen
 I re-booted in runlevel 3 and I issued a startx and everything went
 fine.
 What is wrong
 I am uing intel graphic driver, with iwl3945 wireless adapter.
 Furtehrmore, after a while the system freezes.
 What is going on

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 I apologize for so much mistyping :-)
 Anyway I re-booted in runlevel 3 and with kernel 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686
 and so far I have not experienced any freezing (I will check again but
 I think that system froze after Firefox start-up)
 For the blank screen issue, what is the component to be filed against?
 Bad news as system froze anyway during firefox use.
 I guess that all issues are strictly connected.

 With regard to the blank screen...I'm assuming that is happening after
 the graphical boot sequence...the one that shows all the various service
 starting, etc.

 I'm running into the same issue, using an Nvidia card.

 It's not an indication that the system is frozen...it's that the system
 switched to TTY7, which is where the graphical environment is supposed to
 start.

 Instead, all I do is press ALT-F1 to get to the first console terminal,
 log in, run sudo init 3 to bring the system to runlevel 3 (text only
 mode), then sudo init 5 ; exit to bring the system back to runlevel 5
 (graphical mode) and then exit that particular shell.

 The system then comes up with the login for the GUI desktop.

 I do wonder if it has to do with the desktop environment selected.  I run
 KDE (don't have Gnome installed)...which desktop environment are you
 using?

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Mike
Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
completely similar.


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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-03 Thread Brian Mury
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
 completely similar.

That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1.


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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-03 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/3 Brian Mury [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
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 That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1.


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well

I installed a kernel from F10, and everything is o.k., at leat graphic
login is working again, and I can connect to my wireless network using
my iwl3945.
I have seen a post by Linville but I cannot find it


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